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If you lead with your gender and sexuality in relation to the opposite gender then to make friends with the opposite gender will be more difficult. The lack of interaction with the opposite gender who have the same ideas and values as you that isn't gender oriented and accept the fact that the opposite gender are not just sexual beings and resources then friendships can be formed. To find companionship and comfort in words. To see the opposite gender as an individual with their own set of flaws. Though these relationships are since it's always socially beneficial to lead by gender in relationship to each other.


[–]Young_Oryx 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

Friendship and sexual attraction aren't mutually exclusive. I think it's false to say that two people aren't really friends if one is attracted to the other. Men and women can be friends. It happens all the time.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lesbians can be friends to hetero women, so, why can't there be friendship if one person is attracted to another? There is no reason, right?

[–]Young_Oryx 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I agree with you. Granted, attraction can cause problems. If one person "catches feelings" for the other one and the friendship starts to psychologically hurt them, that's a problem that means the friendship is an unhealthy one for them. I don't think that's always the case, though.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it attraction that's the issue? Or simply that person's ability to regulate their emotions in general?

[–]Female_urinary_mazeWOMEN LIKE SEX.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly! The whole "can men and women even be friends??" thing is unique to straight people.

If you remove it from a hetero context the absurdity is obvious. Nobody would ever ask "Can bisexual people even have friends!?"

[–]tooschooledforcool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not saying they are but that people can put they're attraction however strong ot weak it is in the name of a good mutual companionship.

[–]rightmeow6 1 points [recovered]  (17 children) | Copy Link

as a girl, i disagree. most of my single guy friends seem to get crushes on me, which honestly sucks. and even if they didn't, i would never be close friends with a guy the way i would with my girl friends. i wouldn't hang out one on one and would rarely text him...unless we were doing stuff together or sending something funny.

like we can be friends, but not close friends. unless neither of you are attracted to the other, it doesn't work.

[–]mwait6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

like we can be friends, but not close friends

This is the correct answer, IMO.

This topic boils down to whether or not you believe two people can be in a purely platonic relationship if one(or more) parties is sexually attracted to the other. Most(not all) men believe you cannot. Most(not all) women believe you can... Or they believe "teehee omg he totally isn't attracted to me, we're like brother and sister lol!"

[–]PickUpScientistMaroon Pill2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

i think many women would be shocked to discover how rarely their male friends slide into each others dms. the last time i got a text from a guy was last april, and that was only because i offered him free cigarettes.

[–]crystal_wb20F PPW2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My male friends don't slide into my DMs very often either. Most of my friends are male and idk if I adapted to them or if it's my social circle in general, but I only text with people when there's something to text about.

Are there really people out there who text for the sake of texting? Talking to each other is a much better way to communicate.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This just sounds like you have no actual friends lol.

[–]wtffellificationWe all love women5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

most of my single guy friends seem to get crushes on me

beauty is a curse as much as it's a blessing right?

[–]rightmeow6 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean, it has its downsides. Girls assume you’re bitchy, get jealous, or don’t wanna go out with you because they’re looking for a boyfriend or whatever. Guys get crushes on you, old men at work try to talk you about literally ANYTHING (“I see you drive a Honda”. I drive a prius” ok???). Other men will assume you only got a job because you’re attractive and you have to prove them otherwise. I work with mostly men and my friend group just has a lot of guys...can be awkward and kinda sucks sometimes.

Other than that, it’s pretty great.

[–]nihilismMattersTmro1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No worries, the attention will eventually dial down. Another 10-15 years people will leave you alone

[–]ohheyhi99Conflicted Feminist Man, No Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol no.

[–]TheMedsPedsBlue Pill Woman2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a girl, I disagree with you. I am fairly below average looking tomboy (rarely wear make up, always a comfort over style sort of fashion.) I have several close female friends but I'd say If I were to pool all my friends together it would be 1:4 female to male (though to be fair, some of those males are gay, but a lot of them aren't.) I am 29-years-old, so assuming crushes start around 13, I have spent 16 years having friendships with more men than women and have only dealt with an unrequited love aka friendzone situation twice in my life. And one of the guys wasn't even a super close friend.

If you are hyper-feminine, super attractive chick maybe I can see the "girls and guys can't be friends" argument making some sort of sense. But unattractive women exist and they totally can have platonic relationships with guys with very little to no sexual tension, especially with guys that have types or standards and is not one of those "I want to fuck any person with a vagina" guys

[–]decoy88Black Male in London0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

most of my single guy friends seem to get crushes on me

how much sex are these men getting from other women usually?

[–]rightmeow6 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

How do you honestly expect me to know that? I’m sure it varies. Most are average guys in their late 20s: not fat, not short (I’m 5’9”), not awkward nerds. One of my coworkers from amy old job has a girlfriend and still hits me up semi frequently.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don’t. I just have a theory that the guys that really getting sex are less likely to latch onto unavailable women.

From anecdotal experience and experience of my friends/girlfriend’s, the guys known to get around rarely hold torches for trying to to fuck. (They may try once. But then stop). I even made a post about it

[–]rightmeow6 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean, technically I’m single right now so I am “available”. I’m just not interested in dating any of those guys I mentioned above. They aren’t that persistent, just the occasional text or whatever. Still, I’m not naive enough to assume that my guy friend just wants to have a friendly chat.

But ya I do agree with your premise. There was one guy who I went on one date with, I wasn’t feeling it, but he texted me for literal months (even after I’d completely stopped responding - he would STILL continue to send unanswered texts spaced out by a few days to a week). It was weird; he seemed liked a normal guy too.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trust me that guy was getting no pussy. HOWEVER, I have been in the unfortunate position of trying to pursue genuine friendship with someone who assumed I was trying to fuck her. So I know it happens (however rarely)

[–]SparrowInAHurricane7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is like anything else in this world. People with discipline, self-control and strong minds can be friends with the opposite gender. People who who think their primary value in life is wrapped up in their SMV simply can not. Relationships with the opposite gender are formed from the perspective you have of yourself.

[–]eddielovett6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have had many girl friends who I was close with but we never had sex because my wife made them promise not to and a bunch of them had boyfriends anyway. My wife keeps my balls drained so when I hang out with these girls I have no sexual desire for them even though they’re attractive. I’m touchy and flirty with my female friends but it never crosses the line. It’s similar to rough housing with the boys like wrestling and teasing and stuff. I can be myself around them and it’s a genuine connection/close friendship of a man and woman with no sex. Totally possible and lots of fun.

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One of my best friends is a woman. But we were acquaintances in college and only really got close after we moved to vastly different regions and also made it clear nothing was going to happen if anything changed.

Every other friendship has since ended. Mainly I just don't like most women as friends. The stuff you put up with to get your dick wet doesn't suddenly stay tolerable when that isn't happening.

I have some acquaintances I could see being friends with but we don't hang out or talk much at the moment.

[–]uniqueeleniNo Pill3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

In my opinion, the fact that someone might have had some sexual thoughts a few times towards their friend, does not hinder their friendship. For example, I (24F) have a good male friend (27M), whom I consider to be objectively above average in the looks department; we've been friends for 5 years and we've been working together (he is now my boss) for 3.

During some periods in the first couple of years of our friendship, when I was single and/or lonely, the thought of flirting with him crossed my mind a couple of times, but I quickly dismissed it because I know we could never work as a couple and sleeping together as friends would just complicate our friendship. I know that during those years he would be willing to sleep with me.

Now, I can't see him as anything more than a friend and I am certain that he feels the same as well. I don't think the fact that I've wondered in the past wether or not I could see him sexually/romantically means that our friendship is not real. We have been through together a lot (loss of another friend of ours for example) and we support each other, but we never even consider crossing the line because we just don't feel like it.

We are both in relationships with different people right now and I can honestly say that it works great that way.

[–]jonerysboatbaby4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This! Sexual attraction and friendship aren’t concepts that live in a vacuum. Why does attraction or sexual thoughts invalidate a friendship? I’ve had sexual thoughts about female friends before, does that mean they aren’t some of my best friends? (Note: I am mostly straight woman, with the just the barest hint of bi.)

[–]uniqueeleniNo Pill4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly! Personally I am bisexual, does that mean I can't have any "real" friends?

[–]onii-chan_so_roughDrugs are bad, kids; don't take pills.4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is not a debate; of course it can; I'm sure that everything will admit that at least one example of exists.

Without a further quantification of a minimum percentage this is not a debate. this is like "A human being can live for 150 years"... yeah I'm sure in theory at least one could with proper medical care.

What's your quantification here? Without a quantification this debate is purely vested in emotional buzzword responses and not in rational enquiry

[–]tooschooledforcool[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How do quantify stuff when emotions and feelings? There are two sides to a coin and we'll never know how many people without any bias or external disturbance can actually be friends. I'm merely suggesting that it is possible to be friends. A counter to the men and women can't be friends.

[–]onii-chan_so_roughDrugs are bad, kids; don't take pills.2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How do quantify stuff when emotions and feelings?

You state what percentage of males and females you think can have opposite-sex friends and then we can talk because I take it all can agree that it's neither 100% nor 0%.

I'm merely suggesting that it is possible to be friends.

Of course it's possible; that's a trivial claim; that implies the percentage is not exactly zero; it implies that here exists at least one counter-example.

[–]oj1096 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I went to a co-ed boarding school and everyone was on the same level within the school.

There were good boundaries put in place (such as seperation of sleeping quarters, for obvious reasons) but other than that, it was pretty free and easygoing.

Living together in an environment for for 18+ hours a day, for most of the week for 5 years, it meant that everyone had to become comfortable with complete transparency and vulnerability. Everyone would knew everything about everyone else and they found out straightaway.

Some people did date others, but if they broke up, neither of them were going to go away so they had to learn to forgive, move on and be comfortable in their presence.

That really forced us all to find common ground with each other and we all came out of the school with really good social and conflict resolution skills and really grounded attitudes. We all saw each other as individuals not "female/male > sexual partner or not > threat or not?"

I appreciate that I've had a relatively unique upbringing, but I can attest to the fact that it is definitely possible.

[–]tooschooledforcool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was getting at this, you explained it nicely.

[–]flyinghorse12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For sure - obviously you cant be attracted to each other and both parties must be honest with each other about it

[–]ScootsScoots 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a man, you can only be friends with a girl you dont want to fuck.

[–]jonascf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That might be true if you're a man that's not getting his sexual needs met elsewhere, otherwise it's very possible to be friends with a girl that you want to fuck.

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it's possible, but only if both people are sexually/romantically satisfied outside of the friendship. otherwise eventually someone will catch feelings or they'll get drunk and hookup or whatever and it's not really a truly platonic friendship anymore.

[–]CaptDeadlift16 points17 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

In a relationship? Yes , definitely

Purely platonic? No

I always had sexual fantasies of my female friends during HS (even if they were uggos).

Females and males can only by acquaintances in my book.

Women like to think that their guy friends are purely platonic but once they muster up the courage to confess to their oneitis or you breaking up with your bf/becoming single they will latch onto you like hyenas.

[–]giggity2320 points21 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think this is true for every male out there. I have a female friend and I knew her since childhood and I have never even felt the slightest sexual attraction towards her and I view her as my sister. Just to show that it is possible.

[–]LonelyCosAutistic7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It does not work if you got acquainted at 9 or above, I guess.

[–]CaptDeadlift2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have a childhood friend as well who is currently studying abroad and I won't deny that had fantasies of her sleeping with me even if I knew it was wrong.

[–]Nodoxxintoxin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s not “wrong”, it’s human nature. We can have all sorts of weird or uncomfortable fantasies that we don’t ever want to act out in real life.

[–]Cho_AssmilkArrogant RP S.O.B.8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Yep. There is always a sexual undertone to any woman I choose to befriend. Not saying we fuck, but we both aren't blind to the fact we would enjoy it.

[–]tooschooledforcool[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

But isn't it that in you that you choose to befriend females your only somewhat attracted to? Have you tried befriending normal plane Jane's?

[–]FairlyNaiveRed Pill Man4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Men are usually somewhat attracted to normal plane janes

[–]misunderstood_9gagerChad is as real as Pepe3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Wasnt there a study or something that claimed that "Plane Jane's" are usually more promiscious than your average 10/10 fitness model?

[–]FairlyNaiveRed Pill Man1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, there was.

[–]misunderstood_9gagerChad is as real as Pepe0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you actually have a link? If not I guess I will just google it lol

I just found it very interesting

[–]FairlyNaiveRed Pill Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually dont

[–]rus9384Misanthrope-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Being pumped and dumped is not the same as being promiscuous.

[–]The-Wizard-of-Oz-2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not accurate

[–]JohnWangDoe0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

that's just having weak control of setting boundaries and expectation.

[–]CaptDeadlift1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not it's just being a sexually healthy male.

In private with the guy friends we would talk about our female friends from time to time sexually.

Weak control would be if I reacted to those thoughts either way the friendship wasn't purely platonic and no friendship is. Period.

[–]tooschooledforcool[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

If you were in a relationship and weren't that sexually fustrated in high school do you think that it would have changed?

[–]CaptDeadlift4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I was in a relationship during my last 2 years of HS and it would not change. I still thought of women I would never look as gf material and imagine us fucking even if she was ugly I would still have these thoughts.

[–]liquidsnakex0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Note the rather blatant attempt to imply that you have the opinion you do because you were "sexually fustrated in high school", despite them not knowing anything about you.

This is how you know OP is staunchly BP right off the bat, any differing opinions are immediately met with attempts to shame the person giving them.

[–]CaptDeadlift2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I assume OP is either a woman or a soyboy since all the guys from 2 classes would talk about fucking our female friends.

Post HS (some of the guys from other classes -high SMV-) they still talked about how much they would've wanted to fuck x , y , z.

Basically the woman has to be really unattractive (femcel level) or else even "male friends" will fantasize about them.

[–]neubiiAUT-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This. I had a lot of female friends in HS and in the time between before getting my degree and getting into college I nearly started a thing with every single one of them and if it is just a kiss on a night out. Almost every single good or best female friend I had a least a little romance with, in the end. when you think about it, it is sad, how much time you spent with a person, helping them through hardships, actually knowing them for who they are, but when you break that barrier and it becomes romantic, everything goes to shit and gets awkward.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

even if they were uggos

Ewww. I had never sexual fantasies of uggos, because I don't like puking.

I think men and women can be platonic friends if they don't find each other attractive.

[–]cracksniffer6665 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I read a bit, but here we go.

Chemistry and pheromones are.... insane.

Most of the time, (more like all) if you make a friend of the opposite sex, and you are both attractive, AND you have chemistry... you're gonna fuck, or fuck off. That's how it will always be. Sorry. It's either going to build, and you'll hav sex and a FWB agreement, or you'll cut off the friendship (I've heard maybe 3 cases of this out of hundreds.)

Good luck OP, I don't know where you're coming from, but you'll be aight.

[–]TheJim66Red God-Emperor of Slut Country4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course they can....she can be ugly!

Otherwise the friendships you might have with attractive women will never be the same as the ones with same sex friends.There are rules that need to be followed and the sexual undertone will always be present and influence things .

[–]Raii-v2The Best Pill is Gold1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are women so obsessed with having male friends?

[–]RinoaRita1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s totally possible for some and maybe not for others. So the answer is yes it happened, no, not for everyone.

I have lots of guy friends that I have no attraction to. I don’t think they have anything towards me either. But I guess it depends on where you’re coming from. If some guy hasn’t had anyone in years everyone starts looking good.

So the most boring answer is that it depends on the individual and can even vary by the individual based on their time of life.

[–]QueenCousland861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My closest friend male. The reason it works, IMO, is that both of us have the "Ew!" reaction whenever we consider dating. Zero sexual energy, very much like siblings.

[–]ChiBron861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In my experience, it only seems genuinely possible when sex is not even on the cards. In other words, when there's a big age gap between the 2 parties. The younger one isn't attracted to the older one and the older one is fully aware of the fact that they are old, so they know how they are looked upon as and thus, aren't even anticipating/hoping for that type of attention. As a guy in his 30's, I've noticed I can get along perfectly well with women who are 45+. And it has always been like that. Older women's egos were deflated long ago. Reality has sunk in and they are fully aware of what they look like. At this point they are all married too and are perfectly content with a good conversation.

With women around my age though (20's and 30's), a genuine friendship is hard. Especially when you only befriend girls you are not attracted to. No matter how much of a "friend" she is, it will bother her if I'm swooning over other girls or worse, dating other attractive girls. Doesn't even matter if she likes me or not. Women still consider their SMV relatively high pre-40, so if you simply treat her like a friend and nothing more, that bruises her ego. Even if she is not attracted to you, she still wants you to find her desirable. It's just something I've noticed with every female friend I've ever had. And this can turn particularly embarrassing if she starts liking you. It really brings out their pettiness and jealousy issues. They hate seeing you have any success with the opposite sex.

I don't become friends with women I'm really attracted to. Don't think that type of friendship would be productive at all. I'm content keeping them as an acquaintance.

[–]Mayhzon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My take on this:

Yes, intersex friendships are possible, but only when both in question are revolted by the thought of screwing each other.

[–]lilacluna5481 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why cant you be friends with someone you have feelings for? Ive done it, I got over it and stopped wanting them a long time ago but I did at one point and Im glad we didnt stop being friends over it personally

[–]catemlBlue Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have male friends. Often we've been friends when we're both single, when one of us is single, when we're both attached.

As I said in another comment on here a while ago:
I would not be surprised or horrified to find out that some or a majority of my male friends have thought about my boobs. This does not bother me. One of my male friends, when we were staying in the same place, was like 'fuck buddies?' and I was like 'nah, not into that', and he went off to try and have sex with someone else and things just went back to how they were.
(Full disclosure - He is married now and we have had only minimal contact in the last 5 years, mainly because he lives far away, but this was a while before that. Because yes otherwise jealousy in current relationships could be a factor.)
And attraction, one way or both, can complicate or ruin opposite-gender friendships. Absolutely, it can happen, I've had it happen and seen it happen. But most will go about their life wanting to be with some people a lot and mainly the other people in their life are 'hanging out with people', so it doesn't always happen by any stretch.

I was actually introduced to my partner by a mutual (male) friend. The friend was like "Hey, I was thinking the other day while talking to one of you, that the things I like about hanging out with you and find amusing about you are the same. You should totally meet."
Few years down the line, engaged.
Because my friend likes me as a person, and thinks I am attractive (has expressed so and thought I was good enough for his friend, anyway), but has other girls that he gets totally into. But then he was like "Hey, the ways you're a weirdo that I like overlap the ways that this guy I like is a weirdo" - because the things that we enjoy about others company transcend gender.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are correct. men and women can be friends.

Heterosexual men can be friends with:

  • Trans
  • Bottom 10% women
  • Way older women
  • Way younger women (as in a kid)
  • Even lesbian women if they are more masculine.

However. Anyone he is capable of finding her sexually attractive, it is almost impossible to be a friendship. It is a friendzone.

Men form bonds by sharing time and effort. We cannot do otherwise. that is why so many men project this into women and become stuck into the friendzone. Once you share time and effort with a man he will be interested in friendship if the person is a male or a relationship/sex if female.

i.e. Heterosexual men cannot be friends with any woman they consider anywhere attractive. (sometimes not even that).

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[–]peterlongcLove.Is.The.Drug1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

certainly possible if they become very close to you and romance is impossible for whatever reason. of course there can be difficulties with jealous partners and making time for friendship once you are in a romantic relationship.

[–]imjgaltstill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women can very well enter into a friendship with a man, but to maintain it--a little physical antipathy must help out. - Nietzsche

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that it’s definitely possible if the man is already having sex with someone else. If he is sexless, though, then I think that his likely constant desire for sex with her is going to get in the way of a true friendship. On the other hand, there were a couple of women who I was not attracted to at all in the past that I was friends with. I don’t really consider myself the typical guy, though, and most sexless guys are going to want to bang their female friends eventually.

[–]jasonology090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you might want to work on editing this post. I can barely make out what you're trying to say.

Assuming I understand your position, I'm going to say that you are correct, men and women can be friends in a completely platonic way. But, I would argue that it's rare, and it happens much less often than most people (women especially, attractive women even more so) think it does. However, before we can make that assessment, you need to define the parameters of what you would consider "friendship".

[–]Melthengylfmenslib0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know, 3 of my best friends are women.

[–]lucky_beast0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not if there's one sided attraction. Men and women can be friends, close friends even, if they're either both attracted or unattracted to each other. Asymmetrical attraction is much more common, usually on the man's side, and if there's mutual attraction something more than friendship often comes of it.

So in theory men and women can be friends, in practice men and women can likely hope to be very casual friends or just acquaintances at most. That said some of my best friends are women and we either have mutual attraction and have talked about it or mutual unattraction and have talked about it.

[–]lilacluna5480 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I used to like a guy who didnt like me back and we're still good friends, I dont know why so many think it's impossible. I just got over it.

[–]SmurfESmurferson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My life long best friend is a dude

I know, on paper, that he’s an objectively good looking dude with a great job and a killer sense of humor. Girl friends constantly ask me to hook them up with him, and one of my friends refers to him as her “future ex-husband”

But I just don’t feel that way, personally. He’s my buddy, he’s essentially family. I feel no more attraction to him than I do to my cousins - and I know the feeling is mutual

[–]celincelinNeeds to be taught not to rape0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No doubt they can be good acquaintances, but not friends.

Women don’t get friendship.

Having coffee at a cozy place on a fair afternoon isn’t necessarily friendship.

If it’s pouring at seven in the morning and your friend needs some help with the leaking roof or whatever, you go there and help.

That’s more like friendship, and women simply don’t do that, not just for men, for anybody at all.

[–]tooschooledforcool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And you would know because?

[–]bonusfruit0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

This type of relationship serves the feminine imperative exclusively. Attention, emotional bond, favors, entertainment, all while his balls are full and blue

[–]jonascf2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Why can't the dude have female friends and then also girlfriends, fwb's or whatever that keeps his balls drained and a healthy pink colour?

[–]bonusfruit-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure .01% of guys can have that

[–]jonascf2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why so few? Most of the guys I know have girlfriends and I assume that at least a majority of them are also sexually satisfied.

[–]bonusfruit-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably not true at all, but okay

[–]jonascf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why wouldn't it be true?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. They can't. Only if one is really hot and the other isn't. Men have no need for a female friend. The only reason men even look at women is because they have tits and vagina or can help him get tits and vagina. Women aren't worth being friends with. What does a woman bring to the friendship tabl for a man? You can't help us move. You don't help us get a job. It's too easy to beat you at any game or sport. Most women are loud and annoying.

Go ahead and paint me a picture of what you're talking about. How can they be friends?

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