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This is the story of the girl whose boyfriend got beaten up by a larger dude and then she started fantasizing and masturbating to the dude who beat him up:

https://i.imgur.com/nXojmO3.jpg

"Dylan" is a douchebag who beat the shit out of her boyfriend in a fight. She no longer feels the same about her boyfriend and masturbates to the thought of Dylan and his body. The dude is an asshole, but domination is domination: the girl now prefers Dylan.

How would you react to your partner being humiliated/beaten up during a confrontation with another man?

I also found this recent news article:

The stars of the Fast and Furious franchise refuse to look weak on screen:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/furious-male-stars-refuse-to-look-weak/

We are talking about men like Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, action stars whose masculinity and power can barely be questioned at all. They are the very image in our media of "a tough guy" or "a MAN". These men are among the least insecure and, most importantly, the least vulnerable to emasculation. They're portrayed as the very definition of masculinity and muscle.

And yet... their contracts specify how badly their characters can get beaten in a film. Because their image would suffer too much if people saw the FICTIONAL characters that they play getting beaten up like a sparring bag. Their agents don't want them defeated in a single scene, they can't be shown losing fights, and if the script truly requires them to lose a fight it has to be a "clean" defeat, not a violent beat-down.

Remember that these are FICTIONAL fights. And yet their image would suffer so much if they were shown taking a beat-down that their agents refuse to ever show them being vulnerable or weak in any way, because that would mean a drop in ticket sales, they would literally start losing money as a result of their image no longer being as imposing as before.

Female UFC fighter breaks up with boyfriend because he got humiliated in a fight and she refuses to date anyone who can't "be a man" at all times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no7FuVwcn6w

Miriam Nakamoto tells Joe Rogan how she won't date a man who can't "be a man" all the way through a professional UFC fight. According to her, the dude was "great" in every way, but she still left him after the beat-down.

DISCUSSION

Is it inevitable for men to lose attractiveness any time they lose? Especially when the defeat is humiliating or emasculating.

EDIT: You should all check out the biological principle of mate guarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_guarding_in_humans


[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy21 points22 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

closes laptop and drives to the gym

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Nah, you're still disposable with a woman like that. You don't want such a person at all.

[–]Dash_of_islamBidet 4 Life>Toilet paper unwashed proles3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah you can't be the best at everything

Many people are good at one thing

A few are the best at one thing

But no one can be the best at everything

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

The one thing that everyone should take from the Miriam Nakamoto example is... she'll never love you, she only loves masculinity and the image thereof. Someone like that is flatly incapable of actual love.

[–]Dash_of_islamBidet 4 Life>Toilet paper unwashed proles2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Would be funny if someone strings her a long and then dumps her when her body starts to say and says, "I can't love someone who can't look like a young woman"

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know she would hear the choo-choo from that Karma train!

[–]Dash_of_islamBidet 4 Life>Toilet paper unwashed proles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Too bad karma and other mumbo jumbo doesn't exist

[–]Purecope20190 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lolll

[–]TotalBasturd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Imma hit them squats boi

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Its all a spectrum.

A fraction of girls are vapid, reptilian eyed, walking AWALT stereotypes who will dump you for losing a fight regardless of context. Even if it was 5 on 1 or whatever. No weakness allowed or you're done.

Most girls will feel some twinge of primal disgust if you lose a fight but it will quickly be overcome by concern and protectiveness over you especially if you were jumped or the dude was huge or whatever.

If you just act a jackass and get in someones face and they one punch KO you, thats another matter... and if someone menaces you or your SO and you run away like a bitch, almost all women will immediately lose 100% attraction for you.

The reality of this all is i try to live my life carefully to avoid these situations. I grew up in a neighborhood where fist fights and beef were extremely common. It very often ended up in stabbings, shootings, someone going to jail, cycles of retribution, etc. All I want to do is keep me, my wife and family away from that shit. I'll throw down if there's no other choice but my main goal is don't let it get to that point. I'd much rather walk away from someone popping off at the mouth than get into it and potentially lose my life over nothing. You never know who is carrying.

Hopefully my woman understands all that but if not, fuck her. I know many guys who are still in prison over some meaningless beef over someone's girlfriend or whatever. The girl has long forgotten about him and is busy riding someone elses dick while they're still stuck doing 5-10 or life.

[–]SpinachIsYummyNo Pill11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the sane smart answer from you of all posters.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks... waitaminute, hey! Fuck you too buddy!

[–]ontherailstoday12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well obviously fake, so instead of talking about that scenario I'm going to start by talking about those sorts of intermale physical aggressions in general and how women feel about it.

To be blunt,if you are a man and you escalate any physical situation based only on your pride (actual cases of having to physically defend because of physical attack are different) and then don't win that fight, you've screwed with your attractiveness. You've made a physical fight happen and then not won it. The only thing that makes initiating violence even halfway forgivable is if you win. If you initiate violence and do not win you are a danger to be around, a danger to be associated with.

You know how that stupid lobster boy Jordan Peterson goes on and on and on flapping his silly lips about how chaos is feminine but we all know he's doing that because he looks at everything from the male viewpoint and men just refuse to see themselves as chaos? Well what we have here in this story is A HIGHLY UNATTRACTIVE FORM OF MASCULINE CHAOS. Putting your hand up for a fight you are going to lose and lose bad, for no particular reason other than that your feels were offended by some guy's manner, and then afterwards whining to your girlfriend about the beating you took like somehow she's your mother and should go up the school and talk to the teachers about that bully and re-establish the order of the situation. Oops mommy, I made a chaos... fix it for me? First physically and then emotionally she is being put at ground zero of his masculine chaos by him. Of course she's going to start having bad feelings about him.

I don't for a moment believe this particular story is anything other than a fabrication, but if I believed it was real I would advise that the sudden attraction to the bully is probably her subconscious trying to force her to admit that if she's going to have a man who initiates chaos then the dude that is also capable of ending the chaos with a beatdown is a probably better deal because at least his dumb provocative masculine chaos comes with a hefty serve of the ability to re-establish order. It doesn't mean she's actually on board to hop on the guy's dick... it is her mind screaming at her "FFS compare these two things... and really think about what danger your boyfriend is willing to steer you into! Your boyfriend's emotional incontinence makes him more chaotic and dangerous to rely upon than the obnoxious bully you hate! Get angry girl, and then get out!" Her brain does not want her to just smooth this over and sweep it under the rug and is making whatever fuss it takes to keep it on the agenda. Deep down in that instinctual part we all have, is a voice screaming "No you can't let him frame what this is about!"

I'm pretty sure if that situation was real and the woman in that situation dumped her boyfriend, she'd stop thinking about Dylan.

Rules for the interpersonally unskilled man.

Don't rise to the bait unless you're able to pull that fishing rod out the hands of the fisher and beat him about the head with it.

If you had anything to do with initiating a physical altercation, do not go around whining and and thereby making the innocent people around you responsible for the emotional fallout from the resulting events... you have to let them decide how they will offer support. You've caused them to have a bunch of very mixed feelings about you, if you make demands now you may drag them through emotional territory that they find very difficult indeed.

Try to be a little strategic if someone is always exhibiting the same sort of pressuring behavior upon you. Maybe consider not breaking in precisely the way they are trying to force you to break, or at the very least making sure that if you do break in that way they get more than they bargained for? Long term problems allow you the luxury of long term strategies.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't for a moment believe this particular story is anything other than a fabrication,

Then how do you explain Miriam Nakamoto?

[–]ontherailstoday5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I only watched that part of the way through because well sports are not my thing at all. They have negative value to me.

As far as I can tell that's one sportsperson deciding another sportsperson is not attractive because they aren't showing enough on-field spirit. Whatever, I've never understood why sports.

anyway https://youtu.be/2fraSdN-PG8

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater43 points44 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

A large portion of the female gender lives inside their own head and not in real life. They want a perfect narrative that'll satisfy them or sound good to their friends or look good on Instagram. Reality is an intrusion into that. From what older people tell me younger women and especially western younger women are worse about this than they used to be.

If you think of your guy as a manly man he has to be this absurd chad caricature who can literally never lose. Because in your head thats what your life is like and the fact that he's a human with weaknesses and vulnerabilities doesn't enter into the process.

[–]MyDogLovesCorn26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

A large portion of the female gender lives inside their own head and not in real life.

Oh my God...THIS!!!!!!

I've met countless women who literally think that they're as attractive as their super dolled up, hyper-angled, cherry picked instagram photos in real life.

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I work in the film industry and had a date with a waitress once. She crowed on about how she was told by some dude she could be an actress. She had acne, braces, and thin hair. She also acted like she was some glamorous sex in the city bitch. We didn't go out again.

A lot of women live in a world of constant positive reinforcement and they get a swelled head about it.

[–]_Anarchon_5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You forgot filtered...the bitches don't even look real anymore. They look like comic book or anime characters.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew39 points40 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Is it inevitable for men to lose attractiveness any time they lose? Especially when the defeat is humiliating or emasculating

its as inevitable as a woman losing attractiveness for aging and having kids

who gave you all the weird novel misconception that lifelong marriage/LTR involved lifelong stable sexual attraction? like where could this beleif have ever originated from? people AGE together, men get fat complacent and T goes down, women have kids, age, get fat

no one in human history ever believed lifelong relationship was composed of and based in lifelong stable sexual attraction

[–]TotalBasturd[S] 12 points13 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This is probably the result of younger generations refusing to "grow up" and accept that they will not be young forever.

Men will get weak and fragile. Women will get less beautiful. Both sexes become less attractive as they age, and it has become more common than in earlier generations to refuse this notion and pretend that you can have the mentality and life style of a college kid all your life.

[–]birthrice3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Younger people think they’ll be young forever? I don’t think that’s a surprise.

[–]IAMA1240 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Certainly it is impossible to look like a college kid in your 60s but there are a lot of examples of famous actors that still look very attractive at that age IMO. Of course most people isn't forced to eat well and work out like actors are so they don't do it and they age pretty badly.

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not necessarily. Both of my grandmothers still are still quite the lookers even in their elderly years. They barely have any wrinkles and I'm not exaggerating.

A lot of this has to do with melanin genetics.

[–]TotalBasturd[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Both of my grandmothers still are still quite the lookers even in their elderly years.

Are they single?

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. But one of them is literally dying, so. Yeah.

[–]Cavendishelous4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is aging really a valid comparison to fantasizing about cheating on your boyfriend because they lost a fight?

In the fight situation, there is a clear winner and loser. Clear subjugation. I would rather my spouse found me less attractive because I was aging.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew46 points47 points  (31 children) | Copy Link

She no longer feels the same about her boyfriend and masturbates to the thought of Dylan and his body.

how can i tell this was written by a man? that part

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i smell a fake too.

it takes one to know one...? >.>

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My pussy became moist from the sight of his bulging muscles, which became immediately eclipsed by the sight of his actual bulge.

[–]mandoa_sky8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

a fellow r/menwritingwomen fan?

[–]TheBookOfSeilAn ounce of Snu Snu is worth a pound of cure3 points4 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

Would it matter who wrote it if it was factual information?

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew25 points26 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

i mean you can still discuss the concepts contained in the story, its just so hilariously and obviously written by a man that you're not ACTUALLY discussing a real female reaction

[–]TheBookOfSeilAn ounce of Snu Snu is worth a pound of cure2 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Unless we got the story from the actual woman in question, it can neither be proven nor disproven to be the actual female reaction. Which is more important to you: that it was an actual reaction, or that it was something that would/could actually happen?

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew16 points17 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

verisimilitude in the storytelling is important to me even when its just a thought experiment for discussion

adding in that she "masturbated" to Dylan is not necessary to the story, it is literally only there to inflame, outrage or possibly arouse the men reading. it is not how women are so it DETRACTS from the discussion of female nature

[–]UTC241 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

How do you think a woman would react if the story is true? Have you read My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday? What do you think those women's fantasies? It was a fascinating read.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew11 points12 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

i am a woman lol im not reading books about female fantasy

that was written by a MAN, no woman masturbated to "dylans body"

[–]couldbemage0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't assume I know all there is to know about all men just because I am a man. But since you're a woman you don't need any externally sourced info on any other women?

Having done quite a lot of special order porn, I'm pretty confident that even the most outlandish sexual fantasy is real for some people.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

thats nice. the post was written by a man

[–]UTC240 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

You're saying you never wonder what other women fantasize about? Or you're so confident they scratch the itch the same way you do? Or you don't give a fuck what other women fantasize about because you don't want to fuck them? Fascinating...

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew18 points19 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I am supremely confident that women do not fantasize directly about men's muscles and bodies when they masturbate. 100% male projection

[–]UTC244 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Your absolute certainty intrigues me. If a man tells me he masterbated to the fantasy of a candle light dinner, I would believe him. Where is the everyone is different trope?

[–]catbrainlandcucklord3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm inclined to believe this. Men are WHAT THEY DO - "is he successful?" - if he's muscular, or smart or w/e factors only indirectly - when he doesn't use those tools to achieve success, he's still not attractive. I'd wager the fantasy is of successful man as a concept.

As for how men fantasize about women as an object - it's about WHO they are (is she pretty? is she smart? is she trustworthy?). But most men don't care jack shit how a woman actually uses those tools to achieve status.

Whether any of the above has been decided on secret patriarchy meetings or by evolution is not really consequential to me as there's little to no chance this is going to change within my lifetime.

[–]mandoa_sky0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i know some pretty loyal army wives whose husbands have come home with bad cases to ptsd.

getting ptsd might be considered a weakness (to some people), but clearly, these relationships haven't suffered too much from it.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that they are "loyal army wives" when their husbands are deployed makes them outliers, if you believe the stereotype.

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is more important to you: that it was an actual reaction, or that it was something that would/could actually happen?

It only matters if it's real.

[–]_Anarchon_0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

There's no reason to start sentences with, "I mean..."

New generations, I ask you in earnest, please put a stop to this before it gets out of hand.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can think of a reason to start a sentence with "I mean".

"What do you mean?"

I mean you may make a statement, and someone may ask for clarification, and you may wish to tell them what you mean.

Its overuse as a verbal space filler has spilled over into informal writing by a generation that abbreviates "baby", but this isn't that.

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a linguistic tic, it'll fade in its own time and be replaced by another.

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

That's not the way it works and because it's so clearly fake, not worth discussing, invalid.

[–]reluctantly_red8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

it's so clearly fake

This particular incident may be fake. I don't know but I can say that on the few occasions over the years when I've had to get physical or threaten to get physical and the other guy lost or backed down the women I've been with have gotten obviously aroused. We're talking college educated women with professional careers -- doesn't matter -- the animal side of their brain is still stimulated by shows of dominance.

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Those women are your companions and showing strength and bravery in the right context can certainly light some reptile brains buttons. Not the same situation at all.

[–]TheBookOfSeilAn ounce of Snu Snu is worth a pound of cure0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What’s “not the way it works?” Are you saying that women as a whole wouldn’t fantasize over someone that kicked their boyfriend’s ass/made their boyfriend look like “less of a man?”

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't speak for everyone obviously. But no absolutely not a "thing", that's a male perspective weird semi cuckold fantasy.

[–]rreot-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Report time...

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker12 points13 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

I don't think any woman wants a complete coward, but only a few women are so obsessed with dominance that they want a man who is manly and dominant at all times. It's just like how some women are size queens, but most just want a man without a micropenis who has good technique as a lover.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ever notice how no woman on here condemned Miriam Nakamoto?

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't think any woman wants a complete coward

And what's especially maddening is so many women have no problem being a complete coward.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Most women will protect their children, though.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But the man is disposable. Just about every fucking time. Again, women then wonder why they're crying about toxic masculinity...

[–]reluctantly_red2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Ha -- NO!!! Merely being above the bottom on metrics like bravery or penis size is not nearly enough. Guys don't need to be totally fearless or freaks of nature but most women are disappointed if a guy isn't at least 75th percentile or so.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This is silly. Even if I believed it, I don't think I'd even want to touch a women who knew enough about different men's penis sizes to know what percentile mine was in.

[–]reluctantly_red2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

First date BJ's so the woman can see what she's working with are a thing. Women have expectations that must be met.

[–]Dash_of_islamBidet 4 Life>Toilet paper unwashed proles1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's over for dickcels lol

There are studies that confirm the stereotypes of dick size to ethnicity are accurate on average!!

[–]reluctantly_red0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Guess being part black is a good thing after all.

[–]Dash_of_islamBidet 4 Life>Toilet paper unwashed proles0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you pass as white? Or do you look more ambiguous, like southern European with olive skin and brown hair?

[–]reluctantly_red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can pass for white a lot of the time. I have salt and pepper hair (it used to very dark brown) and reddish light brown skin. I'm part Native American too -- Puerto Rico has a bit of everything in its gene pool.

[–]screenmagnet30F non-trad, HL, alt-feminist, PPW0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seriously. I’m a size queen, and even I’m good with anything greater than 5.5” length & 4.5” circumference as long as he has good stamina.

[–]_derekhawkins-3 points-2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Who told you most just want a man without a micro penis??? LOOOOL

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Reading posts on here, mostly. Of course, some men here think that all of the women here are lying because they know they are talking to men and don't want to truly be honest. My own personal experience is that women haven't cared about my penis size despite it just being average, but I've only been with low-N women, so maybe the high-N ones would be more critical.

[–]oneprettycoolcat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think they are lying. Lying requires you to say something you consciously know to be wrong.

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Reading posts on here, mostly.

Funny how people only believe the posts they want to believe.

[–]_derekhawkins1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Difference between accepting/tolerating an average and wanting one. To claim most women just don’t want a micro penis seems like a stretch lol. They want a big dick relatively speaking, they just won’t mind if you’re regular as you said

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I can buy this for a high N woman. If you're good enough in bed then I'm guessing an average one would be fine with her. I've seen women here complain that there are well-endowed men who are shit in bed.

[–]_derekhawkins0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

To make up for being good in bed when you’re small involves just giving oral, which if you aren’t comfortable with doing you shouldn’t have to. Penis in vagina sex is literally a mutual transaction in which you are both getting something from it. The complaints from women about well endowed men tend to be about their selfishness(not doing foreplay etc)

[–]PrimeSinister2031pink/blue 70mg vyvanse pill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

LOL. Bet you don’t think that about blowjobs when a woman doesn’t want to give head.

[–]_derekhawkins0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How much u wanna bet

[–]PrimeSinister2031pink/blue 70mg vyvanse pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your wife and kids, just to start off with. If not you, then this is still a very common sentiment whether people realise that or not.

[–]_derekhawkins0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also, it’s less to do with n count and more to do with libido. If a girl has an n count of 1 but it was a big dick guy she’s going to love big dicks. But we’ll have to agree to disagree

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, unless you can improve her experience somehow even with a smaller dick. As many women here point out, even a big dick guy can be poor at foreplay.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Female nature at full display, imagining myself attracted to a woman who fucked up my girlfriend sounds sickening to me.

Hope all the blue pilled cucks here take notice and understand what they really need to do in life and what they should avoid.

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

In this TV show called The Vampire Diaries, one of the characters slept with the guy who murdered her ex-boyfriend's mother and her best friend's aunt. Another character ended up with the guy who raped one of her best friends, caused her other best friend's grandmother's death, and killed her brother.

On Gossip Girl, one of the characters ended up with the same guy who attempted to rape her best friend. He even traded her specifically to his uncle for a hotel.

Both shows have very aggressive female fans of these couples. The fanaticism is so bad that the wives of a couple of the actors were getting hate because they somehow viewed them as a "threat" to their favorite TV couple. I wish that I was making this up.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Pure degeneracy..

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, both shows are pretty idiotic. This guy sums up TVD quite efficiently, lol.

[–]praisethesun799Not actually a fag 😉0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

God I love those shows ,my guilty pleasures, great to watch as a couple . Incidentally my gf has a massive crush on the first character you mentioned, Klaus xd

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The writing was absolutely awful for both shows. Gossip Girl was ok before the writers strike and then things started to go horribly awry. TVD was kinda "meh" for me from the beginning, and yet I still watched all 8 seasons of that mess. All 8. Shame. Shame. Shame. rings bell

[–]praisethesun799Not actually a fag 😉0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that it's terrible just makes it better lol They were SO well dressed lol

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's why this shit post made for excelleny trp recruitment

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not a shit post, it's the truth.

[–]Dash_of_islamBidet 4 Life>Toilet paper unwashed proles2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

There's a story where Muhammad kills a man and takes the dead man's wife and beds her that night. I think it was Mary the Coptic or something.

Sounds pretty alpha to me

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Probably is, the problem is that a lot of them are wired to be attracted to degenerates. In the modern world aggression will get you no where, the most successful people are people who play by the rules of society or at least break them when they know that they can get away with it. They are wired to select for losers in today's standards essentially.

[–]Dash_of_islamBidet 4 Life>Toilet paper unwashed proles3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I know. It's hard to find a balance

Depends on your circle. If you hang out with the criminal kind, you're more likely to get sucked in into something that'll ruin your life

Gotta find a way to dominate without breaking the law.

I'd rather not get laid but also not go to jail, than try to impress pussy with violence and risk my health (potential disability from a fight) only to lose my freedom. Take the pussy off the pedestal and live life for yourself

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yep that's about right

[–]69XxXCuckboyXxX691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You simply can't negotiate with female lizard brain. It's wired to prefer dominating, handsome brutes even though they spread nothing but misery around them. We're just animals in fancy clothes.

[–]The3liGator0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a person raised as a Muslim, I don't believe this seeing as Mohammad personally only killed a cew number of people, and I feel like I would have remembered that part.

However, as a person raised as a Muslim,I want to believe the idea of the Chad Muslim killing the Virgin Kaffir and taking his wife

[–]Dash_of_islamBidet 4 Life>Toilet paper unwashed proles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Remember one thing bro. Your Deen condones slavery

It is a way of life and tells you how to shower and even wipe your ass and how many times to go around the Kaaba during Hajj and makes alcohol Haram.

But at no point does it bother telling people to stop owning slaves.

Quran is no different than the Bible in that sense

If modern people can figure out that slavery is immoral but the abrahamic religions can't, then that means either the average person today is more moral than God, or the books are bull shit. Take your pick

[–]shonenhikada11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Welcome to part of the reason women find height so important. They believe that no one will mess with you or that you can beat up most men shorter than you.

One of key reason, women get with men is to have an enforcer to her will and someone to protect her. If that image breaks then so to will her attraction for you. This is assuming part of her main reason for getting with you was for this reason. If she sees you as a beta bux, then her major concern of being with you is for resources for her and/or her children in which case, you losing to someone would not hinder her "attraction" for you because that is not the main reason she is with you.

[–]DragoonXFury22 Yr Black Virgin Skater Stoner Anime Nerd NPC5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Anecdotally and being from a school where it was common for school kids to get stabbed with kitchen knives, the toughest and strongest kids in my school were not the tallest.

Go figure huh?

[–]screenmagnet30F non-trad, HL, alt-feminist, PPW0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Alpha Fucks is the hit man. Beta Bucks hires the hit man.

[–]Nevidimka-22 points23 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Lately there's been a lot of "women" posting on reddit with rather typical stories that tick all the terper boxes to a t, and this is another one where "she" doesn't sound like a woman at all. "Testosteron driven"? Lol we don't talk like that!

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

To be fair I work a lot of gigs and travel around and as such talk to a lot of people.

You would be amazed how many people reason their way through TRP or PPD talking points independently just because they saw one or two pieces of similar information, and can bring it up unprompted if they think they can real talk with no judgement. The human mind can follow simar tracks between multiple people that way on a lot of subjects.

[–]Nevidimka-2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know, in this case it's the way the sentences are phrased that gives away that it's a man writing it.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, it is weird... it is almost like women behave like that.

Seriously though. I know women who are like that, my own mother to be precise.

[–]TotalBasturd[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The problem is that women like that exist, which is why I included the woman in the video at the bottom. Those women are not the norm, Not All Women Are Like That, but a really big number ARE like that.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not All Women Are Going To Admit To Being Like That Even To Themselves

[–]N0blesse0blige1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is part of a wider female nature, but which is also subject to individual variation, and expresses in many different ways. Additionally, domination takes many forms, and is highly contextual.

If dad was a successful Gandhi type she’s more likely to be attracted to men who dominate in non-violent, pasifist ways, by intellectual means. But she’ll be looking for a dominant man no less.

EDIT: Wording

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its weird. They're weird. Who the fuck does this or makes fake accounts on dating sites and expects to get a peek at reality through lying.

[–]N0blesse0blige0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That may well be, but are you dismissing that it touches upon female nature, though?

This dynamic frequently takes a more subtle and less violent form. For example, in a social circle, women will subtly promote different rules for men based on their social status and attractiveness (and also complain if a man who is attractive is not afforded appropriate social status).

They will encourage a less attractive, lower status guy to not challenge and confront higher status men. "Be a good little non-sexual being and know your rank."

[–]screenmagnet30F non-trad, HL, alt-feminist, PPW0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you give me an example scenario for your last paragraph? I don’t think I’ve noticed this before.

[–]celincelinNeeds to be taught not to rape0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

we don't talk like that!

Stop generalizing half of the population, awalting misogynist.

[–]abaxeron 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

Pack up boys, the female respondents in the thread have spokenth their expert opinion - "any story about a woman that confirms TRP truths is a fake male fantasy". Including the stories about known public figures.

[–]TotalBasturd 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

The worst part is that plenty of them will run into this problem during their life times.

Maybe their husband doesn't make as much money as that other hot dude they know, maybe their husband loses a fight and everyone laughs at him, maybe he gets robbed and she hates him because he didn't fight the robber (I have seen that stuff personally, and also on r/Relationship_advice and even r/BlackPeopleTwitter)

[–]CreightonWAbrams 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Any story about a woman that contains a completely gratuitous account of how she masturbates, whether or not it confirms TRP truths, is a fake male fantasy.

[–]abaxeron 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Unless she's masturbating to his personality!!

[–]catbrainlandcucklord4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it inevitable for men to lose attractiveness any time they lose? Especially when the defeat is humiliating or emasculating.

It works the other way too - attractiveness rises when a victory is achieved. I think the canonical example is the stereotype of cheerleader and a quarterback.

As for how to avoid the domination game, strategize. Don't put yourself in positions where your power is directly challenged.

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

How would you react to your partner being humiliated/beaten up during a confrontation with another man?

It wouldn't even get to that point because I would jump in. Only a trash female would stand there and just watch her man get beat on like that. Maybe it's just how I grew up, but the girl usually jumps in the fight like it's second nature. It's not you got into a fight, it's we got into a fight. I don't play that. Especially if it's more than one and they wanna try and gang up on him. Hell no. The earrings are coming off, and the hair is getting pulled back with a scrunchie. You got me f*cked up.

She no longer feels the same about her boyfriend and masturbates to the thought of Dylan and his body.

She ain't shit for this. -_-

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It wouldn't even get to that point because I would jump in.

Haha, yeah. I actually did this once, but I was very young and drunk, lol. Fortunately no one got hurt, and we got outta there before the cops showed up.

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Ride or die gang, rise up. ✊🏾

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Yes, getting beaten up and humiliated by another man is unattractive.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Imagine if a man left you after you got beaten up and humiliated by another woman. Would you call that karma?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Did I say anything about leaving him?

OP asked if it affects attraction, and the truth is that it does. That's the red pill for you. Would you rather I lied about it to make you feel better?

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If you're no longer attracted to him

er, if he got his ass kicked and that was unattractive

why would you stay with him? And whether you're lying or not, how would you feel if it was you who got beaten and humiliated and he left you said it was unattractive?

The truth of the matter is, women's attitudes change when the shoe gets on their foot.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If you're no longer attracted to him why would you stay with him?

Because we're married? Because he's hot enough to recover that attraction? Because I love him?

If it was just some boyfriend and I lost attraction to him, then yeah I'd probably leave.

how would you feel if it was you who got beaten and humiliated and he left you said it was unattractive?

Yeah it would suck. And?

The truth of the matter is, women's attitudes change when the shoe gets on their foot.

Men aren't looking for a big tough alpha to look after them, so seeing his woman beaten up or humiliated would trigger a protective feeling rather than a loss of attraction.

At least try to use a scenario that makes sense.

If I got fat or sick and all my hair fell out, then I would fully expect whatever man was in my life to lose attraction. That's life. Whatever.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because we're married? Because he's hot enough to recover that attraction? Because I love him?

Nah you don't really love him if you'd lose attraction based on that. You love what he can provide you (protection) but not him.

Men aren't looking for a big tough alpha to look after them, so seeing his woman beaten up or humiliated would trigger a protective feeling rather than a loss of attraction.

Or so you think.

In any case this attitude from women is what causes that thing they call toxic masculinity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol ok

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think how you lose is important. Women just don’t like cowardice in men, while men have no problem with women running from a fight.

But in general I agree. Men are beholden to domination and masculinity if they want a wide and fulfilling sex life. That’s why feminists give such shitty dating advice lol there’s no room within feminist dogma in advocating gender roles, especially not male domination.

[–]TotalBasturd[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, the degree of defeat required to make you unattractive varies depending on the woman (women are different, duh).

Some women straight up can't stand seeing their partner lose at all, but some others are fine with the defeat as long as it's not "ridiculous". You know, it's alright to lose but getting obliterated like a rag doll is a different story.

[–]Shadow_Of_Chad-Lite2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women just don’t like cowardice in men,

Losing is not cowardice

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are already trapped in the game of domination, even if it takes the form of the workplace or the dating scene.

I mean competition is a slightly more apt term, but its sorta splitting hairs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can you send me link for the first link?

[–]sup21440 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

go to u/guiltyconscience11's post history

[–]brock_coley0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a guy in my mid-30s, I've never been in a situation where I've had to physically fight another person. Why would these situations ever come up or be common at all? I don't get it.

[–]ontherailstoday1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The story is almost always a stupid one. This is my fave youtube vid on the topic.

https://youtu.be/RQykYaSN3CI

[–]droolunderpressurePurple Pill Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mate, that video has 1014-1099 likes to dislikes

Who gives a shit about these stupid theories anyway

[–]TrueReligionGenesLooxist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I'd say its inevitable. The instinct for it simply cant be overridden.

When two male elk fight for the right to reproduce, i dont think the female would ever choose the loser. I also saw a nature thing on penguins and it had footage of a male penguin getting cucked by another male he lost a fight to. It was brutal and sad. I think coming to terms with this reality is part of "waking up".

[–]UTC240 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Nobody can win all the time. Women understand this. How you lose and whether you are able to come back is vitally important. If I were the guy who got beaten up I would find opportunity to get it even one way or the other instead of trying to avoid the guy. That by itself is unattractive. You can lose at one time but you got to win in the end.

I totally believe this is a true story. Women ARE like that. I have gotten in fights and came out on top and I could feel the attraction from the other guy's GF. It was disgusting.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have gotten in fights and came out on top and I could feel the attraction from the other guy's GF. It was disgusting.

BTDT, if you want to know what really darkened my view of women, it was shit like that. Plus the fact that no woman will ever admit that this is what fuels male aggression. Female hypergamy is the fuel for that thing they call toxic masculinity. And none will ever admit it, ever.

[–]UTC241 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The day I realized the dark side of female nature I felt I lost innocence forever. But I could never go back to be plugged in the matrix no matter how blissful that felt. I'm RP and on the verge of becoming MGTOW. No woman is worth my time. AWALT.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All women aren't like that, it's just that so few are not like that. Part of the problem is we let bad women get away with their behavior for so long (millennia) that the lowest common denominator now rules. The only true way out is for men to set stronger boundaries regarding women's moral character. Which in turn requires dealing with our excessive thirst for sex.

[–]SupercrushhhNo Pill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

How would you react to your partner being beat up/humiliated

Like any normal person who loves and respects their partner??? I’d be fucking pissed and worried and I would make sure he was okay.

The whole The Rock part of your post alludes to how men view men, not how women view men.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The whole The Rock part of your post alludes to how men view men, not how women view men.

Oh so that's why he's so popular with women.

[–]praisethesun799Not actually a fag 😉0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only 40 something bored housewives think he's hot though, so who cares

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

More specifically it appears all three go to great lengths to avoid looking weak on screen. Producers and crew members on the films tell the outlet that Statham has a studio agreement limiting how badly he can be beaten up on screen, and would visit the editing room to weigh in on fight scenes. Johnson meanwhile enlists producers, editors and fight coordinators to ensure “he always gives as good as he gets”.

Then there’s Diesel who has his younger sister police the number of punches he takes. Diesel reportedly cared so much about who landed more blows in his fight scenes he assigned a numerical value to each move in a fight so he could make sure that Domenic Toretto never lost. Said system was abandoned as it was deemed too complicated.

It seems the men of the franchise are far bigger divas than the women as the girl-on-girl fight scenes such as those between Michelle Rodriguez and Ronda Rousey in the seventh film don’t concern themselves with ‘scorekeeping’. It gets even sillier as one report over a scene that required Johnson to be lying on the ground at Diesel’s feet, Johnson insisted his character at least be sitting up.

The irony of it all is just how weak all this makes them look

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But it makes sense. These actions are about protecting their franchises. They make their living by selling an image. That image needs to be protected.

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It works. Those dudes are more famous and their ability to fake fight is their draw.

Meanwhile Rousey got beat up twice for real and her losses made her worthless to the media and she ran to the WWE for more fake fighting.

[–]TotalBasturd[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's really ironic how it works.

The female stars don't care if their characters get beaten up on screen, therefore they tend to look vulnerable or weak sometimes and the audience doesn't take them that seriously.

The male stars refuse to ever appear vulnerable or weak, so the audience takes them seriously because they always look tough and powerful during the movies. BUT THEN we the audience learn that the actors refuse to appear vulnerable because they and their agents are insecure and don't think they can afford being emasculated or humiliated on screen, and that insecurity is precisely what makes them seem less masculine and less powerful.

It's pretty interesting.

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The male stars refuse to ever appear vulnerable or weak

Its all about the image they're selling. Arnold often played beta men (i.e. Twins and Kindergarten Cop).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

BUT THEN we the audience learn that the actors refuse to appear vulnerable because they and their agents are insecure and don't think they can afford being emasculated or humiliated on screen, and that insecurity is precisely what makes them seem less masculine and less powerful.

It's pretty interesting.

Lol I guess their hope is most people won't find out about the behind the scenes stuff

[–]TotalBasturd[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We all know these people are not actually good fighters. When Dave Bautista, who looks intimidating as fuck, started in UFC fights he SUCKED.

Sure, he could beat the crap out of the average man, but so could any other UFC fighter and those do not make millions in movies about how strong and big they are.

It's all fake. It's all fiction. It's all stupid. Dwayne Johnson, Vin Diesel and Jason Statham are stars for teenagers and children.

[–]MyDogLovesCorn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's all fake. It's all fiction. It's all stupid. Dwayne Johnson, Vin Diesel and Jason Statham are stars for teenagers and children.

Wow. What are you going to tell us next -- that water is wet!?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only a man could think women masturbate to the thought of a topless man, this is so ridiculous it is more like a porn story than reality. It's so clearly fake.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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