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How do you know what a girl has or has not done with other guys, especially in the early phases of a sexual relationship?

Are women volunteering their sexual history? Are you just making assumptions?

And why does it matter what she did or didn’t do with other guys on a line-item basis? Why don’t you just establish from the outset your sexual expectations and if she fails to meet them leave?

When a girl says ‘I don’t like blowjobs’ does your mind immediately go to all the cocks you assume she sucked before?

When she says ‘I don’t like anal’ why do you assume she loved it and is refusing to give it up to you because you are not chadly enough?

If you need anal and blowjobs to be happy fair enough but why are you making it about her? It comes off as childish if you say ‘but she gave it up for Chad!’

Edit: to be clear I’m not talking about her n-count I’m talking about specific sexual acts she engaged in previously


[–]reluctantly_red90 points91 points  (73 children) | Copy Link

Are women volunteering their sexual history? Are you just making assumptions?

Its not like they make full disclosure statements on the first date but they obviously talk. Over time its not hard to piece together their history.

Also, when her friends have been drinking they'll love to tell you funny stories.

[–]DREADC0RSAIRNo Pill | Just Dead Inside19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is how it typically goes

[–]yeetsaucepeterossRed Pill Man42 points43 points  (46 children) | Copy Link

Lmao just got PTSD of fake laughing to not look like a psycho boyfriend when one of my ex’s friends would tell stories of their crazy nights getting blackout drunk and waking up with 5 strangers in their apartment like it’s the funniest thing ever

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

I sometimes think a friend that shares that kind of information, unprompted, is looking to sabotage.

It would, to me, seem like common sense not to mention your friends hook ups, ex bfs, or even dudes that simply hit on them to their current partner!!

[–]lucky_beast42 points43 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Women sabotaging their friends?

Surely not!

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

There are absolutely women that will do that. Jealousy, envy, competition, insecurity, etc. often times you don’t even notice it until there is a guy around giving you attention.

[–]usegao9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"Surely not" is always sarcasm.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Surely not!

[–]usegao0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

im srs

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It comes right after "Methinks you jest!"

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Licid drugs like alcohol makes women say the most anti-common sense shit you can imagine.

Even some encouragement may make them do it.

Sometimes even a bad day may make her spill something she normally wouldn't.

It is by no means hard to make a woman talk.

Quite the opposite in actuality. The difficult part for me is to make them stop talking.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

True. Alcohol does make you say some stupid shit.

difficult part for me is to make them stop talking

Change the subject to your vast anime collection and I guarantee she will shut up and probably never talk to you again.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, that I don't doubt.

[–]Controvirsy2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I mean it's probably something that she thinks is hilarious and would normally talk about if it was just the girls

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s certainly possible, but she would have to lack a certain amount of social awareness to say something in front of her friend’s bf.

It’s definitely a thing among certain types of women that I have noticed that reaaaally hate it when their friends get male attention.

[–]lilacluna5481 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You arent wrong but Ive known girls who wouldnt see anything wrong with that story and would think that any guy who was bothered by it was some awful misogynist. Super feminist types.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Now that you mention it, I could see a woman saying something like that out of self righteousness. Like she'd be willing to sabotage her friends relationship because SHE doesn't approve of or like the guy.

I've actually known that type as well haha

[–]SeasonedRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly what she was doing.

[–]yeetsaucepeterossRed Pill Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, I didn’t think about it this way but that is a very real possibility. The particular friend was kinda slimy and would sleep with her friends boyfriends and stuff so she could have been trying to separate me and my ex at the time

[–]Peter593010 points11 points  (28 children) | Copy Link

I enjoy hearing stories of the guy who didn't make her come but insisted on anal every time to finish off so he could come, and who sucked at that too. She didn't know anal could actually feel good and not hurt until she met me. The only stories that make me insecure are of the guy with the nice job and good income who left her (for a Thai bride, because he was a knob); I'm poor and she doesn't love me for my money but I know she misses being with someone better off, however the sexual stories are fun because they don't paint her ex's in a great light and she does love me for my magic fingers, attention to detail, the effort I'm willing to put into getting her off and the kinky shit we do.

[–]Nobodykers5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't worry. Raw physical attraction is hotter than having a million in the bank.

[–]p3n3lop3Black Pill& Waiting on the Singularity3 points4 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Women don't care about good sex like men do. We'd much rather have an uninvolved wealthy husband, loving family and friend for emotional connection and the occasional gardener on the side. Don't fool yourself into justifying your laziness. Being good at sex as a man is no accomplishment. It's better than being bad at it. Being good at something is in general better than being bad at it. But your good sex is not going to put a roof over her head or keep her feeling provided for, feminine and relaxed. She's not going to be thinking warm fluffy thoughts about your good sex when the bills are piling up.

[–]Original_username99913 points14 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Erm as a women, bad sex is a deal breaker. Its important to me that BOTH me and my partner get ours.

[–]p3n3lop3Black Pill& Waiting on the Singularity5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

It's a deal breaker sure, but good sex is not a reason to stay long term with a broke dude unless you are a loser yourself.

[–]Original_username9992 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Yes, a relationship is built on many things - succeeding as an adult (not being constantly broke being one of them)

In the opposite sitch I wouldn't stay with a rich dude if he wasn't making me happy in bed.

[–]p3n3lop3 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

Then you're a degenerate woman who makes bad life choices but ok.

[–]Original_username9992 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Thanks stranger on the internet, can you give me some further constructive criticism? What better choices could I make?

[–]p3n3lop3 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Someone who makes relationship decisions based on sex is man, not a woman. If it's a woman, it's a mentally ill woman. She probably also eats poorly, doesn't exercise, has some trashy tattoos and/or piercings, has birthed bastard children (since she loves sex so much), had abortions (disgusting), smokes cigarettes and/or pot....ie, not classy, not healthy, no self control.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Be civil. This is a warning.

[–]Marie_19861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I completely agree bad at sex good byeeee... ain’t nobody got time for that!

[–]reluctantly_red5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

But your good sex is not going to put a roof over her head or keep her feeling provided for, feminine and relaxed.

Good sex will make her feel feminine and relaxed. As for the roof she can damn well pay for that herself.

[–]p3n3lop3 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy Link

Why else would she want to have sex with you then? LOL Men are so delusional. We don't want sex like you do. Occasionaly we do want sex in that way if the guy is really hot but otherwise, we want more. Resources. Get it through your skull.

[–]reluctantly_red0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Why else would she want to have sex with you then?

Because I'm 6'4", fairly well built, and generally not too bad looking for a guy my age.

[–]p3n3lop3 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

How's your hairline though? lol

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm covered with hair head to toe. :)

[–]p3n3lop3 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

hairy ass!! ladies, stay away!!

[–]we-are-men-with-ven0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Love me a man with a ginger beard. Franky Boyle is my heart throb :p

[–]Skuggasveinn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's some real-talk here.

[–]lemonfluff1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You enjoy that story?! That sounds awful. Your poor girlfriend.

[–]Peter59303 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean that's one way of looking at it, but it's like the story of her last ex who set himself on fire trying to refill a lighter; I like how it contrasts with my ability to competently and safely fix things around the house.

[–]lemonfluff1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah I got that, but all I can think is how this is sounding suspiciously like her ex assaulted her reguarly.

[–]Peter59301 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She doesn't look at it that way, her take on it is that he was just crap in bed and if she doesn't have a problem with it, it's not my place to make it one. She introduced me to him one time when we were getting the train back to her place and he was working in the ticket office, just to show me off to him and make him jealous, but she doesn't hate him or anything.

[–]LineChef0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Getting black out drunk tends to lead to questionable decisions like that.

I don’t have a problem with my wife getting laid by 5 guys at a time ( that’s kinda our kink), but that’s way different than getting wasted, not having control of your surroundings and letting strangers (who are also drunk/high) into your home.

[–]red_matrix5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, when her friends have been drinking they'll love to tell you funny stories.

This is the true answer.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman5 points6 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

I always wonder about the super shitty friends people have. My actual friends would never do me like that and I do not tell my aquaintances bad stuff about myself. My oldest friend I know every single shitty thing that has happened to her her and every good thing and there is no way I would bust her out to some random ass man.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes people just say things inadvertently

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

No they don't.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy4 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I can probably think of a million times I told a story thinking it was just about me but I implicated someone in something I didn’t mean to

[–]GhostofB 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

That's because you don't care. What else could explain doing it a million times without learning your lesson?

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I’m a little spacey 🤷🏻‍♂️

Came to terms with this myself a long time ago

Work on your strengths, accept your weaknesses

[–]GhostofB 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

Work on your strengths, accept your weaknesses

Repeat the same mistakes a million times. See how far that gets you.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

You’ll gain more focusing on what you can do than what you can’t

[–]GhostofB 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Whatever you say.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude if it makes you feel better to believe you accidentally told a story that made somebody else look bad in a story, you do you.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What are we even arguing about lol

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No idea.

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

My oldest friend I know every single shitty thing that has happened to her her and every good thing and there is no way I would bust her out to some random ass man.

I am curious: If you knew that your oldest friends she desperately wants to date and/or marry and so she omits every single one of them, what would your thought process be? Besides "not my business".

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My closest friends are pretty normal regular women, they aren't perfect but if they had done a bunch of questionable things they probably would not be my friends so there is not much to cover up. I do not invest myself is shitshow people.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also, when her friends have been drinking they’ll love to tell you funny stories

“I (29/M) found out my fiancé (26/F) from her friends (26/F) that she used to give blowjobs and anal to her ex bf when she was younger, but says she has never been a sexual person. Idk what to do”,

or whatever question these dude ask r/relationshipadvice

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I chalk these up to creative writing.

Not because these things don't happen, but because it's more likely that someone fabricates these stories in order to generate outrage porn.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes that’s my experience over time they just tell me either directly or they make it known

[–]concacanca0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Saaame. The only one who lied to me ended up outing herself to a mutual friend who told me everything lol.

[–]Manhater6660 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

when her friends have been drinking they'll love to tell you funny stories.

this is why i keep them separate. i dont meet his friends, my friends dont meet him. and what kind of friends would talk about you like that in front of some dudebro? fake friends, thats who.

[–]GhostofB 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

In my experience, some female friendship groups appear very close on the outside, but when you dig a bit deeper you find out all the grudges being held between the individual members. It's kept simmering under the surface so the group holds together, but if there's an opportunity for an 'innocent' cheap shot it will be taken.

It's not that the whole friendship group are fake friends, it's that certain members fake it with other members to avoid all out war.

[–]Manhater6661 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

i see. in my experience, the larger the friend group the more it is divided. what you said makes sense. id say smaller friend groups are tight-knit and therefore more genuine.

[–]catbrainlandcucklord10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It comes off as childish if you say ‘but she gave it up for Chad!’

No, it's "i don't want to do anal with YOU" - and the more honest, outspoken women will indeed straight tell you that.

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Size matters!

[–]DasHylen2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

if it did, then don't get in a relationship with me, go with someone else.

[–]Female_urinary_mazeWOMEN LIKE SEX.0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

In which way? "Must be this long to ride" or "must be this small to fit" ?

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In the case of anal, I'd say it's "must be this small to fit"!

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here31 points32 points  (52 children) | Copy Link

In my experience, it’s the woman who wants to know about your relationship history. Not many women are “sex positive” in the sense that they are non-judgmental about your sexual past. I can look up the studies if you want that show that women, not men, care more about sexual past.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/97433-more-women-than-men-care-about-a-new-partners-sexual-history-says-new-study-and-over

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psypost.org/2016/12/study-finds-number-past-sexual-partners-large-effect-attractiveness-46594/amp

The idea that it’s only men who care about sexual past is very incorrect. I think it’s because women automatically assume a man with a variety of past sexual partners is a ‘player’ or used some range of manipulative tactics to get to that number.

So the topic is typically breached by her and then histories are disclosed. Of course she could be lying though, but then again so could you heh

You can also kind of tell from her personality and friend group too. I think a good rule of thumb is that you are who you surround yourself with.

[–]theambivalentroosterLiteral Chad[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You can also kind of tell from her personality and friend group too. I think a good rule of thumb is that you are who you surround yourself with.

That is a strong indicator, yes, extending beyond the SMP.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’ll concede it is not always perfectly correct though. I think most female friend groups have that one extra promiscuous member lol

[–]theambivalentroosterLiteral Chad[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or the one very chaste member.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew10 points11 points  (27 children) | Copy Link

They want to know about your RELATIONSHIP history, women arent asking men how many pussies they licked or whether they had anal sex with other girls.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here17 points18 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

I mean that’s just not true. I’ve been asked my number many times by women.

[–]Nodoxxintoxin7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They want to try and figure out if you’re setting them up to pump and dump, not if you have done kinky shit

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew7 points8 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

Your NUMBER

Have you been asked if you did specific sex ACTS, like anal , like in the scenarios discussed here?

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy7 points8 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Girls ask about specific acts when they’re trying to get a guy to do the specific act

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

i can see that

i can't imagine having to try to "get" a man to do a sex act tho. like HIM being anally penetrated? what would a man have to be persuaded by a woman to do?

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ime sometimes I just don’t particularly like some sex act, girls tend to bring it up like “hey have you ever x??” And like looking at me kinda expectantly, I agree it does not take a whole lot of persuasion as long as it’s not too crazy

[–]GhostofB 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

i can't imagine having to try to "get" a man to do a sex act tho.

It's not about convincing him to do it, it's asking for it without asking for it. A lot of girls aren't going to come out and say "I want anal sex", they're going to ask "Have you ever done anal?" as a way to 'innocently' broach the subject and allow themselves an escape if the guy says "no, gross, have you?".

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, yeh

[–]Myshkinia0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think I’ve asked every boyfriend I’ve ever had, and tons of males I’ve been on intimate (not that kind of intimacy, I just mean those weirdly personal conversations where you end up divulging a lot of really personal information) terms with a lot of questions about anal sex, their past experiences with it, what girls have said and done in regards to it, etc... and it is absolutely not a roundabout way to try to get them to do it.

I have a very strict NO ANAL policy. I think it’s gross, and it sounds absolutely horrific in terms of the actual sex act. We don’t have a prostate gland, only very delicate membrane that is far less elastic and hardy than other orifices. Messing with my butthole sounds about as pleasurable as vigorously rubbing my naked eyeball with a calloused, dirty finger.

The reason why I have so many questions about it as a heterosexual sex act is because I’m just so fascinated and confounded by the idea that some women seem to actively seek it out, not just begrudgingly concede to it to please a partner. It’s the same with any other thing I find deeply unpleasant or bizarre. It’s the type of “can’t look away” that happens with a car crash. It’s a morbid curiosity, a desire to understand that which is so utterly foreign to me.

I am the same way with lots of other weird kinks. I just love grilling people about stuff I’m interested in like an amateur anthropologist/psychologist/busybody.

[–]GhostofB 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

and it is absolutely not a roundabout way to try to get them to do it.

For you. That's the whole point of asking for it that way, there's genuine plausible deniability.

[–]Myshkinia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that’s a good point.

[–]throwawayemotions341 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Like what.... Eating pussy and positions? What girl is out there begging her man to have anal sex with her.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Ime this happens with anal, some girls are into it and they want it. It’s not my preference so they start prompting me about it. I’ve also come across this with violent sex. I’m sure it happens with other sex acts too

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I’ve known the anal loving chicks too, ppd swears up and down they’re not real but some women really genuinely get off on it

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

lol ppd is either naive and innocent or jaded AF

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Worst of both worlds

[–]we-are-men-with-ven2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm a female who really enjoys it. My partners ex girlfriend also really liked it.

We're not exactly common, but hardly unicorns either.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Strongly agreed. Do you by any chance seek out “the asshole type” but not really an asshole, just sort of a strong looking DGAF type of dude with no filter?

[–]throwawayemotions342 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

They are not internalizing that you did it with someone else and is therefore not giving it to them. They are seeing it as a "you" problem and asking why you're not comfortable . If you're not and you don't do it she isn't going to huff and puff and ask if you ever did it with it an ex.

That's a male thing.

Now, maybe women might feel the same in terms of RELATIONSHIP speed, what you did romantically with an ex. But sex, is sex and her mind will not wander down the rabbit hole like most men on here.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you’re missing the point I’ll do all that stuff I don’t care it’s just not my go to

[–]throwawayemotions340 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So what is the point you're trying to make?

"girls ask if they can try different sex things with you"

Okay. Would you rather her force you to do it or... ? That's basic human communication. Ask and you receive or you don't

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m merely responding to this specific OP which speaks of sexual history.

Do you want to talk about specific sex acts? I guess I misread this OP as speaking of n-count included and not solely specific sexual acts.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol the sexual history HE mens is that like we discuss in the context of women not wanting to perform specific ACTS they performed in the past, not jus n count.

Look, he edited the post to say what I just said

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I see that. See my comment I edited. I thought this was about all sexual history, not solely BJs and shit lol

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean the studies shown literally say sexual partners which is not the same as relationship history 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–]catbrainlandcucklord2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s because women automatically assume a man with a variety of past sexual partners is a ‘player’ or used some range of manipulative tactics to get to that number.

This, but also insecurity how they'll "measure up" in terms of sexual experience. More or less kinkiness.

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

it’s the woman who wants to know about your relationship history.

Yeah. My ex-wife wanted to know. I told her I'd never added them up. She got out a legal pad and had me write them all down. I was adding to the list for several weeks as memories of less memorable encounters resurfaced. Turned out she was number 57.

[–]we-are-men-with-ven0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, why did she do that?

[–]CosmicBioHazard0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Is there any good way to hide a previous marriage from a prospective partner? I was screwed over and I'm not fucking marrying again unless she considers purity the be-all, end-all.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think it’s worth hiding something that serious. We all have to live with our past decisions unless you’re a woman and only then does the past not matter lmao

[–]IthacanPenny1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you kidding? Women with past marriages most definitely get shamed/blamed/thought less of. It is at least as much stigma as there is for a man. Plus, if a man has kids from a previous relationship no one gives a damn, but for women there’s soooo much more of a problem.

[–]CosmicBioHazard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao. Hey I should be able to get away with something like that like a woman would. I don't want to go in to a marriage and have her have reason to be jealous or anything.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

What if your best friends are your dogs and your parents and some girl that lives 14 hours away? What do you deduct from that?

[–]wekacuckLife is settling.4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women fucking dogs is so last week PPD.

[–]Nodoxxintoxin4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone has lost their minds.

[–]FinchRosemtaActual Factual Ho1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That was a wild week.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I deduct that she is an introvert and probably has issues socializing.

[–]Nighthawkdragon8-2 points-1 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I highly disagree. Women usually want their man to have slept with a lot of women. She will be more attracted to the alpha that has a history as opposed to a desperate beta who hasn’t been able to sleep with many women.

Also, the men that care about women’s sexual history are just insecure. I don’t give a fuck, I assume a beautiful women has had a lot of wild sexual experiences.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You are free to disagree with the studies we have on the matter. Your anecdotes don’t beat my own plus the studies we have at hand.

[–]Nighthawkdragon8-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You don’t agree that women are more attracted to men with an abundance of women?

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think the men who have an abundance of options are different from men who sleep with a high number a women.

Having an abundance mentality doesn’t mean you have a high n count. It just means you have an abundance of options.

Again, you’re free to disagree with the studies we have on this.

[–]Nighthawkdragon8-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do agree that the reason they are attracted to men who have been with many other women is mostly because of abundance, not literally them sleeping with the women. What I would say is that no man that actually is in top 1 percent of guys in terms of their ability to attract 10s-9s chooses to not have sex wih a lot of women, unless for religious reasons

[–]Nighthawkdragon8-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But I will say that if you have field experience with picking up girls where you have seen in the field girls wanting men that don’t sleep with a lot of other girls over alpha men that fuck 100s of girls that surprises me and goes against my 3 years field experience, but it is legit cuz you saw it first hand. Studies don’t work for this because what women say and do are two different things

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women usually want their man to have slept with a lot of women. She will be more attracted to the alpha that has a history as opposed to a desperate beta who hasn’t been able to sleep with many women.

No. I can't stand men like that. If he's had more than 5 and even one of them was a ONS, FWB, etc, I'm grossed out. And I know plenty of women who think this way.

Ever since the stories about men "on the down-low" came out (men who sleep with men in secret) a lot of women have been paranoid because it's usually the men who have multiple sex partners who messed around with men.

I'm not trying to get HIV. A promiscuous man can keep walking as far as I'm concerned. That's just nasty and trifling.

[–]Nighthawkdragon80 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Gotchu. So imo it’s not the literal fact that they’ve been with many other women, it’s that they have the option to have been with other hot women. And 99% of men that has that option(about 2%society) will hu with many many hot women,

What is ONS and FWB?

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ONS = one night stand(s)

FWB = Friends with benefits

[–]ariesv123Purple Pill Woman5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Does any of this stuff really work? People can behave a certain way without actually giving it up for anyone and vice versa

[–]boomcheese442 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

nope, it dosent. at most, these men are guessing. how can you know if water has been cut with a knife?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women usually start talking about it themselves. And asking questions too.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (43 children) | Copy Link

Honestly? I ask people who know the person, look social media, and check their behavior when drunk.

Men are not as stupid as women think nor women are as inconspicuous as they think.

You may try to hide it, but it is impossible. You always leave tracks, and people are not as trustworthy as you may think.

Men do not need to assume anything. Women give and leave way too much information about themselves already.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

And why does it matter what she did or didn’t do with other guys on a line-item basis?

It gives her less value. It is a instinctual reason. It is like "why men like big breasts or big butts?" Instinct. Same reason to prefer low N count women.

And lets not forget, it also affect other aspects such as STDs and pair bonding.

Why don’t you just establish from the outset your sexual expectations and if she fails to meet them leave?

The same reason women do to virgins. Because people have preferences. I like big breasts, you like rich people, they like low n count. To each one their own I guess?

When a girl says ‘I don’t like blowjobs’ does your mind immediately go to all the cocks you assume she sucked before?

When she says ‘I don’t like anal’ why do you assume she loved it and is refusing to give it up to you because you are not chadly enough?

No. I assume she had some experience. And NOW she does not seen to like it. I may want to look at the reasons why another time. But for now I just know she had experience with someone else. are there any other reasons which may lead me to want to check her background? None just look at each others past without a reason to.

If you need anal and blowjobs to be happy fair enough but why are you making it about her?

Because it is about her. There needs to be 2 to tango. It is her choice.

It comes off as childish if you say ‘but she gave it up for Chad!’

What this "comes off as" only works if we care about what you think about. We mostly don't.

[–]Gible115 points16 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Dude you post at least ten times a day mostly about women getting theirs. You are most definitely invested in them lol.

[–]insultin_crayon3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

u/Workaholico likely has no work to do, hence why it’s on here all day posting. I’ve noticed that too.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes. I have nothing to do, it is a hot midday Saturday. I am a professor. and yes. I no longer work as a political party handyman. might as well do something with my time like learn some english. I am workaholico. Am I not? thank you for being so observant

[–]insultin_crayon3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You can be anything you want to be on the Internet. I don’t buy what you say for a minute based on your history.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

invested in women, Yes I am. but you confuse being interested in the returns of the investment and the people's thoughts about the matter.

I couldn't care less that the CEO of a company thinks my questions are childish or whatever. I am only interest is in the ROI.

Also, I am here to train my english. If you checked my history you would know.

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What this "comes off as" only works if we care about what you think about. We mostly don't.

And there you have it. Who cares if anal was traumatic for her. She had it and now you are entitled to it as well.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not caring about past traumatic event ≠ Mostly not caring about being seen as childish.

Way to blow that out of proportion. The surname matches out tho.

[–]Manhater666 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

im sorry but you will never know unless she tells you directly.

and the way you mansplain our womanly experiences and goals to us women only proves my point.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I did never needed her telling me her past. However I suppose I'd appreciate her more if she was honest from the get go, for a change

And please. This is PPD. Well constructed arguments will get you way farther than buzzwords. Manhater.

[–]Manhater6660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

sure thing, jan

[–]FinchRosemtaActual Factual Ho2 points3 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

I ask people who know the person,

None of my friends would be able to tell you anything other than I dated one guy for a few years from high school and to college.

look social media

I don't used Instagram and my FB is just so I can admin business pages for work.

and check their behavior when drunk.

I don't drink.

So how would you go about finding the information you require?

[–]_Ulan_0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Lies are easy to spot when you know someone. Just corner the person into lying or hinting. Talking about travels, dating experience, past jobs, past residences... Is enough to see if someone chooses to lie about his/her past or is honest about having exes.

More than anything, the way she handles you is a big indicator of her experience once you've witnessed different levels of maturity in your past partners. The same way you could tell a virgin guy even if he tries to pretend he knows what to do.

[–]Manhater6664 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

nope, men will never truly know unless she tells him directly. sorry.

[–]alilabelle 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

The way you men cope makes me laugh so much. If I don't want a man to know something, he will never know. It's very easy and none of that information will be available anywhere including friends.

[–]Controvirsy2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would you want to lie about it in the first place? If you're willing to deceive your partner, then you're always going to think that your partner doesn't really love you because he doesn't completely know you.

[–]FatmanSlim930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right? People should be up front and not with someone who’s gonna be disgusted with her. I always laugh when I see posts on reddit where the woman is surprised her low n-count boyfriend is grossed out from her number. Like, did y’all not talk about this before having sex?

[–]p3n3lop3Black Pill& Waiting on the Singularity1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

LOLLLL ME TOO

This sleuthing list of his is truly hilarious and unrealistic.

[–]_Ulan_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I certainly got tricked in the early years. now although I can fall for new tricks I certainly won't fall for the same ones : ) I'd say it's easier for a woman to have it with a man in his early twenties. Much harder with a mid-aged man - unless he was married for the last 10 years.

Depending on their personal experiences I've seen women up to 28-29 play their cards very badly in terms of SMV. I don't condone them either, there is no law about social life.

Ultimately most people can't play an act 24/24. Those who can are definitely the worst people you'd want to be with. There is a sweet spot of accomplished-but-humble sexual history that is what I tend to prefer.

[–]p3n3lop3 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

past friends(now enemies)

LOLLLLLLLL

XD

Yeah, good luck with that! What are you going to do? Send them a facebook message? Why the eff would they care about you? Are you offering money? And what enemies? Good grief. This is truly funny.

[–]FinchRosemtaActual Factual Ho-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As the always single, non drinking friend the stuff I know about other people FAR surpasses the stuff anyone knows about me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Depends on the woman.

I use what is available, past employers, work colleges, family, criminal databases, past friends(now enemies), city cameras, etc. these 3 are just the most common sources, from which I get the most information about women I deal with.

But I know there is a limit. I know I probably wouldn't know if she was somehow competent at covering her tracks. It is just that women are overconfident on their skills to cover their tracks and let things pass through.

And lets not forget, the fact there is nothing to pick up, also is suspicious in itself. Not that I ever found such a case.

[–]IthacanPenny3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow. Men who pull that shit are fucking creepy! Never would I ever date someone who was diving that deep. Not because I have something hide, but because it just reeks of a mouth-breathing loser. It’s just gross, honestly. There is nothing less sexy than being so anxious/ anal retentive/ bean-counter-y. No thank you!

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Great. I do not care about your opinion Penny.

[–]IthacanPenny1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right back at ya

[–]FinchRosemtaActual Factual Ho1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Using me an as example again

past employers

I've been self employed ever since college.

work colleges

I work remotely and have done so since college. I don't have workmates and certainly non I've met in person.

Family

Most don't even know about the bf I had in highschool and college. They wouldn't be able to tell you anything

criminal databases

Nothing listed

past friends(now enemies)

Don't have these really. And if I did there is nothing to tell. You can't tell what you don't know.

city cameras

I go to Trader Joe's and Chipotle alot.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow. It is hard to find data on you. the only people I am aware are that hard to track are some hitmen, mob bosses and prostitutes.

[–]I-wanna-GO-FAST0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

She is actually a prostitute. So I guess the lesson here is if it's hard to find any info on her, she's likely a hooker.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

that what I meant when I said lack of info is suspicious.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Totally true. This is one area I’ve seen men be very socially savvy about, probably because it matters to a lot of them.

[–]Female_urinary_mazeWOMEN LIKE SEX.0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So you search their profiles and quiz their friends like a provate eye to find out their sexual history? What exactly do you conclude from this information? Is it about her "N-count," whether she does as many things with you as with others, or something else?

By the way I think the reason why it's not "inconspicuous" is because it's not really a secret. There's even a possibility that with tact you could've just talked about it with her. (Although maybe not, because caring about that kind of thing is sometimes considered a red flag)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Provate eye? A private detective you mean? No, like any normal man. We know women do the same to us.

What exactly do you conclude from this information?

If she is a good person to have around and if she has my preferences. I will not date another person willing to kill me.

Is it about her "N-count," whether she does as many things with you as with others, or something else?

more like instinctual preferences in general. Men like big lumps of fat for no apparent reason, Likewise, I would want a woman who is not settling with me and/or has non high n count.

It may not be a secret or it might. I prefer to check anyway. It she admits herself, okay. But I prefer to be sure. And many women think they are being secretive when they really are not that much. I actually find funny how my little sister thinks I, my brother and my father don't know her adventures. We know. We just have no reason to be her babysitter. she is an adult after all.

[–]alilabelle 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Men are not as stupid as women think

Most of you really are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Heh. Right. We do some really stupid shit for sex... now that you said it. I concede, you are correct. We really can be quite the stupid addicts.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beta male, the human doormat for females. Exhibit: A

[–]Manhater666-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

nope if you had sex abroad. nope if you dont drink or smoke weed / use shrooms.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

WTF?

[–]Manhater6660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

what?

[–]Moldy_GeckoPurple Pill Man3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Did someone recently hurt you? I've only ever asked ncount and then just do what I want. If we don't connect sexually, i.e. no anal, oh well. If we're together long enough, it'll happen.

[–]I-wanna-GO-FAST2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And why does it matter what she did or didn’t do with other guys on a line-item basis?

It's funny when women say this, yet almost all of them are appalled by guys who've been with prostitutes. 😆

[–]Orange_Paisley 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Eh, my fiancé and I have compared stories and high fived each other if we’ve had similar experiences. We’re both older and previously married though so we aren’t hung up on the insecurities of I experience.

[–]insultin_crayon1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You sound like a mentally sound and adjusted man, which is refreshing on this sub full of hate for any little thing a woman could possibly do in her day-to-day activities.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

shes sounds mentally sound and well adjusted because shes a woman

[–]Orange_PaisleyOrange pill is best pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I didn’t notice the question for men banner. Too early and on my phone. Coffee is needed.

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[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

These are some of the cringiest answers I have ever seen. Trying to decide if my fav is the dude saying a flat social affection is a sign of being emotionally worn down by dick or the dude saying he hires a PI to find out if gf’s did anal in her life

[–]Manhater666 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

i have heard of men hiring PIs. i wonder how would a PI know which poses she was in? men are dumb and heartless, selfish sociopaths.

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

name checks out

[–]Manhater6660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

not in this context. you cant ignore the selfishness of men in the thread.

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I find it funny how guys on here call women liars if they claim to be concerned about a man's n-count. Tho I think it's more common for low n-count women to care, esp considering that thread asking low n-count women what type of men they paired off with. Most of them were with similarly low n-count men. Some, however, did pair off with high n-count men and are happy too.

My hypothesis is that most people with a single digit n-count would find someone with a similar n-count more attractive and comfortable. (And I assume guys who only recently got introduced to the redpill find the idea of some women finding high n-counts unattractive/uncomfortable disingenuous). Virgins past the age of 17 would probably seek out low n-count men/women, and people with higher n-counts probably wouldn't ask/care

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most people are uncomfortable in situations that “don’t apply to them”. So if they can’t relate to someone, they often erroneous assume that person is “beneath” them for being different. It’s self-protecting. (And dumb. But people are dumb.)

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Are you just making assumptions?

I've said before that Mr. Abrams assumed that my count was significantly higher than it actually was. It didn't bother him at all. He assumed that a pretty girl on her own in The Big City would be getting busy. We are both products of the 70s and 80s, so he didn't have any hangups about that, and was pretty surprised when he learned the truth.

[–]theambivalentroosterLiteral Chad[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think mens’ feelings about this are tied to their own n-count rather than hers. Generally the lower his n-count the more concerned he is about the details of her sexual history, and the higher his n-count the less he is concerned.

[–]MyDogLovesCorn5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope, not true. Only applies to people who are bitter, like incels.

I've met far too many manwhores who slutshamed and coveted virgins for this to be true. One of my friends literally couldn't remember the names of the people he slept with before school started and he then proceeded to slutshame a girl (who he was fucking) for getting fingerbanged in a frat basement (she lost her virginity to him). He's also not my friend anymore...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I agree with that.

[–]findingfemininitysend birb memes1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmm I've had an ex who assumed my n count was way higher than it was too. He was very insecure about his n count though, even though I'm fairly certain it was double mine if not more.

[–]Christian_Kong80% Natural Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only reasonable way to potentially know(without her telling you) what a girl has done in her past is by her an account of other guys that have hooked up with her.....and that isn't entirely reliable. Everything else is junk science.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I have usually asked about number of boyfriends in the past and her attitude towards casual sex, and made a judgment based upon that without knowing an actual N count. Two of the women I've been involved with were virgins, so I didn't have to ask as much there.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Virgin doesn't mean she hasn't sucked dick or didn't do anal.

[–]Female_urinary_mazeWOMEN LIKE SEX.1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Catholic school kids (and other isolated religious nutters) not withstanding I think most people know better than to say a woman is a virgin because she's only done anal.

Additionally why would a woman (outside of the afformentioned puritanical loonybins) have anal sex before vaginal sex in the first place?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No idea. Bitches are crazy.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Lol. I’m pretty sure the virgins that I was with didn’t do those things. It’s difficult to fake inexperience.

[–]reluctantly_red3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

It’s difficult to fake inexperience.

You find adult women that inexperienced attractive?

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

In the past when I was dating I didn't choose a woman to date based upon her sexual ability, but based on her desire for sex. I don't care if she's good at it, just that she's willing to learn.

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women who desire sex are unlikely to be virgins.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is not necessarily true. They could only desire relationship sex and not riding the CC with some Chad. Many women are socially awkward at finding men who they consider suitable for a relationship.

[–]iLiveInAHologram1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m sure he found other things attractive about his previous partners.

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah -- but there's still something weird about anyone who makes it past their very early 20's and is still a virgin.

[–]iLiveInAHologram0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, it’s really not. Sometimes life gets in the way, there are shy people, people may have other motivations etc. People age and grow at different paces. Virgins shouldn’t be shamed. And teaching people things for the first time can be a lot of fun. But if they aren’t for you I just wouldn’t be with one. Try not to shame people :) you never know their life experiences.

[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think because women don't understand the male reaction to knowing sexual histories they are too open with them. They believe because they want to know, but it doesn't really bother them, that men would want to know and it wouldn't really bother them. And at first it might seem like it doesn't because the guy isn't in love yet, isn't looking at a long term, so hey, you used to have threesomes with your BF, whatever.

Then after the guy actually falls for her, its "Shit, she used to do threesomes with how many dudes?".

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Genders tend to project their personal feelings onto the other. Examples:

  • women thinking men care about their careers
  • women believe emotional cheating is worse than sex. As such they're more likely to forgive a bf for cheating as long as it was a physical release and not an emotional affair. This, you see them project their personal view onto men, whereas for men it's absolutely the polar opposite. A man would be livid his gf slept with another guy, but he doesn't care if she had a platonic relationship that became somewhat of an emotional affair that she later admitted and apologized for.

So because they project these concepts incorrectly onto men, they think we don't mind hearing about their sexual adventures because "it didn't mean anything".

[–]jax006Wants to bang ~20% of PPD chicks2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They always tell you lmao

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I question the kind of relationship experience people have when they ask questions like this.

Despite the... demographics of this particular subreddit, most women have not had a huge number of sexual partners. Nor are most of them on that 100% don't ask don't tell policy when it comes to their sexual history. Often, they volunteer this shit as an explanation: "I tried anal before and didn't like it."

I mean if you ask (even just to yourself) why a woman knows why she doesnt like a particular sex act, the like... possibility spectrum of answers doesn't really encompass much beyond she tried it before and didn't like it. Just logically speaking.

As to why it all bothers me: simply put, I want to be the best. The best loved, the best sexed, the most respected man in a woman's life. If i'm not getting her best, then I'm second best. That's not acceptable to me.

I know women have all these complicated reasons and justifications and "its not about you" and bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla. Ok. Thats cool. But to me, it is about me. I have been a womans 2nd pick before and its a horrible, gut wrenching experience that Im not about to tolerate a second time. So if theres a shred of doubt in my mind about that, then we arent compatible.

I want a woman that shows with her actions - not just words - that Im #1, that I get the very damn best she has to offer because she values me that highly. And I give the same in return. If I wasn't about that with a given female then I wouldnt even commit to her. She'd be a plate. I wouldnt have the heart to inflict the psychic horror of being in actual relationship with her but not really loving her enough to do for her what I've done for other women.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just came here to say that no one is entitled to the sexual history of anybody. Unless something prompts the conversation or she had an STD, no girlfriend should have to tell her boyfriend anything she has or hasn’t done with a guy/girl in the past. If she is deliberately lying to him, that’s another story. I accidentally implied that I had been with a girl (I have not) and my ex acted like it was a huge deal that I hadn’t told him. It was baffling.

[–]phoenix_shm2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I date women who are okay in talking about it honestly and owning it. Then I ask them. ..that's about it

[–]baselinehuman20181 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My ex just asked me. He also asked if I was lesbian to see if I was sexually adventurous. Weird

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I ask when it makes sense

[–]Original_username9991 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha wut?? This makes no sense what so ever?? I am currently in a happy relationship as of 4 years which is sexually satisfying for both of us.

I don't think my sexual satisfaction is at all correlated to my health?

I mean I'm running a marathon next month which I'm currently training for, and I hold down a fairly challenging job ...

Any way - thanks for the advice I will be sure to absolutely ignore it and continue living a happy and orgasmic life

[–]muddynipsRed Pill Man1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It may not always go line-by-line like you said, but I think you can fairly well measure investment by her desire (not just willingness but actual desire) to please her man. And if she was willing to do more to please other men you are most likely betabux.

I also believe that sexual pair-bonding is a thing, and that a girl who views sex as a purely selfish mechanism would be unable to pair the way I want.

I never ask about history except when necessary to protect myself. But you can pick up most of it if you know how to read people and make some basic assumptions. I am rarely surprised anymore.

[–]OiLoveMoiBrick1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would never ask. It's not my business....

[–]TealllaneNo Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How do you know what a girl has or has not done with other guys, especially in the early phases of a sexual relationship?

I ask.

Are women volunteering their sexual history? Are you just making assumptions?

Generally, they do. I don't usually make any assumptions.

And why does it matter what she did or didn’t do with other guys on a line-item basis? Why don’t you just establish from the outset your sexual expectations and if she fails to meet them leave?

It doesn't matter at all to me. If I don't like somone. I will leave

When a girl says ‘I don’t like blowjobs’ does your mind immediately go to all the cocks you assume she sucked before?

It does not. I think that this is a woman I couldn't be in a long lasting relationship with and wouldn't keep as a FWB.

When she says ‘I don’t like anal’ why do you assume she loved it and is refusing to give it up to you because you are not chadly enough?

I assume she had a bad experience with someone who was inexperienced sexually, didn't make her comfortable/relaxed, and failed to sexually please her. I respect that she has a boundary and maybe we can try down the line if she's comfortable. Or Maybe she has Crohn's disease...a few women I have been with intimately have it.

If you need anal and blowjobs to be happy fair enough but why are you making it about her? It comes off as childish if you say ‘but she gave it up for Chad!’

I only recently learned about "Chad" and only bring up "chad" because the concept makes me laugh and entertains my friends.

I wouldn't consider them to be prerequisites to being happy, but I am a very sexual/sensual person and like to engage in various sexual acts often. So limiting what I personally enjoy dampens the relationship.

[–]UTC242 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I only date virgins.

[–]DasHylen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

only women worth your time tbh

[–]Ltrfsn1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Unless otherwise specified I would just assume she's had way more sex than me

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It seems like breaking up with women for having more experience than you is kind of insuring you’ll continue to have no experience isn’t it?

[–]Ltrfsn7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Wait what? I wouldn't break up with her over it. It's just something I'd assume and keep in the back of my head :P why would I break up with her for being a normal female human?

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know why any of the men here are bothered by the idea that their partner might have had sex before tbh I like girls with experience. It’s much easier for everyone to get off if she knows what does and doesn’t turn her on.

[–]The-Devilz-Advocate0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a difference between having a sexual history and going through 2 full football teams.

Having one doesn't mean you necessarily have the other.

Also pair bonding exists.

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It really doesn’t. Unhealthy people will be unhealthy with their relationship with sex. Sometimes they have too much sex, sometimes they never want to have sex. But most women haven’t fucked the entire football team. To approach all women as they have would be another example of another unhealthy mentality.

[–]UncommercializedSaw3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You don’t ask...Ever.

It’s none of your business. Sex is too easy a target, but you end up skipping on someone who has what you want, but has a sexual past—there are plenty of other great indicators that can reveal her characteristics.

[–]Tyler_GatsbyNo mas Sancho0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just assume she's done everything, everything she's been interested in, and a few things she wasn't.

Only ever had one gf that wouldn't do blowjobs, but that's not something I expect very often anyway. You get one every so often when she's in a playful mood, or it's a heavy flow day and she doesn't feel like dealing with the mess or clean up but wants to do something for you.

[–]_Neon_Shadow_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are women volunteering their sexual history?

Yes. All my female friends and the women I've been in relationships with would easily volunteer this information.

And why does it matter what she did or didn’t do with other guys on a line-item basis? Why don’t you just establish from the outset your sexual expectations and if she fails to meet them leave?

Unlike other guys, I don't really care about this. As long as she satisfies my sexual needs, idc. But speaking for other RP guys, I think they use it as a trust and attractiveness benchmark. If she was willing to be a slut with Chad and not you, obviously she doesn't regard you as highly.

When a girl says ‘I don’t like blowjobs’ does your mind immediately go to all the cocks you assume she sucked before?

No. My ex said the same thing but she still sucked this mf. I would believe her if her body count wasn't so high, no way you fuck that many people without sucking dick.

When she says ‘I don’t like anal’ why do you assume she loved it and is refusing to give it up to you because you are not chadly enough?

I dont. Anal is a case by case thing. I've been with girls that love it more than vaginal and some that despise anything going near this ass, even a tongue. People that think this way have no sexual experience or they're retarded.

If you need anal and blowjobs to be happy fair enough but why are you making it about her? It comes off as childish if you say ‘but she gave it up for Chad!’

Because it is. If she gave it up for Chad, she's obviously willing to do it. So if she doesn't do it with you, she doesn't like you as much.

Edit: to be clear I’m not talking about her n-count I’m talking about specific sexual acts she engaged in previously

Two entirely different things. I care more about body count than acts.

[–]PM_Happy_Puppy_PicsPurple Pill Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is very easy to answer. She was willing to go "all out" for someone else. So how does that make you feel when she won't do that with you?

If you knew a guy bought flowers, chocolate, expensive gifts, trips, etc. for his last girlfriend but doesn't do any of that for you because he wants to put it all in savings instead, how would that make you feel? If he cringed every time you ordered a drink. Or made you feel bad spending his money when he was so free with it before? If he took another girl out on adventures and trips all over the place but he just wants to stay in and watch NetFlix with you. How would that make you feel?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is difficult to find this out, especially if the woman is trying to hide it actively.
Obviously it is better to marry young women for that reason, or not to marry at all.

Most men won't leave for that reason because they can make that compromise I guess, little some of they know that she used to do this happily with others.

Again I don't understand why all of these posts are over complicating this issue, men don't want to marry alpha widows, this is not about any specific act that she is not giving.

[–]adool6660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She asked mine so I asked her. She fucked twice as many ppl.

I had an ex gf who fucked more girls than me... made me slightly insecure.

[–]FatmanSlim930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can’t really unless she tells you, but from what I’ve seen on this forum apparently lying is the correct response cause I deserve love and people having standards is bad. That being said that’s like a smaller minority on here, your jezebels and such.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I swap stories, especially sexual horror stories. Those are always hilarious.

[–]Kenji_03No Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I ask, usually it's asking so I can better predict what she is and is not into.

I am going to assume you had a really bad experience with a guy recently, as I can't think of any of the guys I associate with thinking the way you suggest.

[–]DasHylen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to answer for myself here.

First off, there are absolutely no reasons that someone would abstain from Bj, The only scenarios would be if the dick was very dirty and unclean.
Anal is understandable to not want, because it could hurt.

in the early phases of a relationship, there are no ways to tell what you have or haven't done, except for judging by experience.

I don't make assumptions unless there is clear evidence, that can be a bunch of things.

and no, if someone told me she doesn't want to bj me then I'll first consider the problem within me, if I can't find any, I'll assume you just don't like me enough, the last thing I'd ever do is imagine her with the other chads, that's dumb.

What I'll instead ask is just "Why?", From there you can evaluate your relationship.

But if I find out that she has in fact done those acts she refused on me, and there are no hygiene problems involved, I'll end the relationship.

that's what'll do, i don't immediately assume/care for what she did in her past (although i do mind the body count), we only care if you refuse to do it with us, yet you did it with someone else.

[–]foxglove3330 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ll just lie and say whatever I think the guy wants to hear, if they’re into virgins I’m pure as the driven snow hahaha.

[–]Daniel3Lancer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It depends on how itchy my cock is after I fuck her.

[–]Bruchibre0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She asks me questions and I reciprocate "what about you?".

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though-2 points-1 points  (33 children) | Copy Link

I hired a private investigator. He finds one thing about her past that she is likely to hide. Then I ask her about said thing. If she hides that thing, then I don't trust anything that comes from her mouth. I am no longer interested in her.

If she answers with the truth, I ask about her sexual history. She already has the benefit of the doubt so I will trust her until I find evidence that tells me that she is lying.

If she refuses to answer any question then I am no longer interested in her. I move on.

And why does it matter what she did or didn’t do with other guys on a line-item basis?

You can't seriously say that you love you current partner more than your exes if you are not willing to do the exact same things that you did for your exes and more for the benefit of your current partner.

When a girl says ‘I don’t like blowjobs’ does your mind immediately go to all the cocks you assume she sucked before?

It depends. I already asked about her sexual history. If she was willing to do that for her previous partners then I expect the same.

When she says ‘I don’t like anal’ why do you assume she loved it and is refusing to give it up to you because you are not chadly enough?

Because I asked if she did that for their previous partners. If the answer was "yes" then I expect the same. If she does not want to do it for me then I am clearly lacking in whatever characteristic her previous partner had that was enough for her to be willing to do it.

If you need anal and blowjobs to be happy fair enough but why are you making it about her?

In order to be happy I don't need blowjobs and anal. In order to be happy I like to know that if I could see in my partner's past I would not be able to find anyone that was treated better than me. So it is about her.

I apply the same standards to myself. Anything that I did for my previous partners, my next partner gets as a base.

[–]SupercrushhhNo Pill17 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

If I found out my partner hired a private investigator to investigate me, I would be getting the fuck outta there, nevermind the grilling on whether or not I had anal with my exes and whether or not we’d be doing it too.

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn't hide it from miss moral. I chose her as a potential partner because I knew I was the best option she will ever have and she knew it as well.

She knew I needed one reason to trust in her and after I decided to put my trust in her that trust would be absolute unless she betrays it.

I am true to my word. From that day on, if she says something, it is true as far as I am concerned.

[–]SupercrushhhNo Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m very glad it worked out for both of you :)

[–]oftheinfinite 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Is your yikes supposed to deter lurkers from doing just that? It is in men's best interest to find out everything they can about the women they're going to tie themselves to.

[–]theambivalentroosterLiteral Chad[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or you can meet her friends and family. I can’t understand the paranoia of someone who needs to hire a private investigator for their potential girlfriend. A good family is a fantastic indicator of quality.

Hell, if anything women need that service more than men do.

[–]SupercrushhhNo Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Uh, no? Men can do whatever they want

[–]insultin_crayon2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

When she says ‘I don’t like anal’ why do you assume she loved it and is refusing to give it up to you because you are not chadly enough?

Because I asked if she did that for their previous partners. If the answer was "yes" then I expect the same. If she does not want to do it for me then I am clearly lacking in whatever characteristic her previous partner had that was enough for her to be willing to do it.

Here’s a crazy thought. Maybe she tried it and DOESN’T LIKE IT.

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Fair. I still want the same. She tried once and find out that she doesn't like it. Then I want once.

"In order to be happy I like to know that if I could see in my partner's past I would not be able to find anyone that was treated better than me."

[–]insultin_crayon0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Doesn’t work that way. If you tried broccoli as a kid and hated it, would you try it again if she cooked it and put it on your plate? Doubt it.

[–]trueorfalsedmitryred despite the handle0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you tried broccoli as a kid and hated it, would you try it again if she cooked it and put it on your plate? Doubt it.

Seriously? This is a good analogy, but the craziest "isn't it obvious" response I can imagine.

WTF wouldn't give broccoli a second try as an adult? You tried it one time when you were a kid, and that's it? Forever? This is mental illness. Even if you tried it multiple times--but always prepared by the same person--this is nutty.

Look, anal is always the example in this particular debate (I kind of hate that this is the case, but there you have it.) It is perfectly reasonable to have had such a traumatic initial experience with a penis in your ass that you don't want to do it again. If a man tries to insist anyway, he's being a jerk. But, if you had anal sex more than once, or, especially, with more than one person, you are a lying sack of shit if you tell your boyfriend that you find him just as attractive as the men attached to the dicks that hit you in the brown eye. Any sexual act that involves less physical trauma? This is even more true.

[–]GhostofB 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you tried broccoli as a kid and hated it, would you try it again if she cooked it and put it on your plate?

As a kid I hated pumpkin, olives, mushrooms, onions, broccoli, brussels sprouts, capsicum, and probably a bunch of other vegetables.

As an adult I tried them all again and the only one I still don't like is brussels sprouts. I've never heard of an adult that didn't like something as a child and then refused to ever try it again.

[–]insultin_crayon-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you put any of those up your rectum?

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes I would. What kind of asshole rejects a homecooked meal from their partner.

And again. I live by the same standards. Anything my previous partner got, my next partner gets as a base.

[–]SupercrushhhNo Pill0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How absurdly petty

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Petty or not, when I need something to be happy that something is not up for negotiation. Either I get it or I am out.

[–]LovingLivingLargehere for a good time, not for a long time2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You can't seriously say that you love you current partner more than your exes if you are not willing to do the exact same things that you did for your exes

sure I can, since anal is not how I express my love

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lets assume a woman I am with says that to me.

She was willing to do it with an ex. She is not willing to do it with me.

I don't care if that isn't how she shows love. I can't seriously believe that she loves me if she was willing to do something for an ex and not for me. If that something is something she doesn't like then it is even worse. She was willing to be inconvenienced for her ex but not for me. Fuck that shit.

[–]LovingLivingLargehere for a good time, not for a long time2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like you're doing her a favor then, I'd tell you to eat shit and bounce.

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know most people wouldn't like that. That is the reason I look for women that know that I am their best option.

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Thats fucked up about anal. Many times its forced on a woman by someone who doesn't know what he's doing and it can be one of the most painful experiences and very traumatizing. I say this is someone who absolutely fucking loves it but in the very first few moments it's always extremely difficult because one has to train their parasympathetic nervous system how to relax and it's something that's normally not controllable, is the opening of the sphincters.

Does the context of why she doesn't want to perform those acts even matter?

Also how the fuck is a PI going to find these things out without her posting it on social media, having a criminal record, pics/vids on the internet?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The Private Investigator could engage in a fake new relationship affair with his target, masquerading himself as the Chad prince, whos been waiting for her all the time.

After gathering all the intel, he vanishes. In the worst case, together with your gf.

[–]Manhater6663 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

bwahaahaha, this is by far the most ridiculous male fantasy i have ever read.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

At least I could stop you hating men for a few minutes ;)

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Never!

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Does the context of why she doesn't want to perform those acts even matter?

Context always matter. I am more than willing to listen. I am not willing to accept that my partner treated her ex better than how she currently treats me. I apply that to any aspect of the relationship.

Also how the fuck is a PI going to find these things out without her posting it on social media, having a criminal record, pics/vids on the internet?

Ask them. People talk. People leave behind evidence of their acts. Also, people post a lot in social media, that is enough 99% of the times.

[–]SupercrushhhNo Pill0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

treated her ex better

You think this hypothetical woman “treated her ex better” by letting them do anal? Lol

[–]eaazzy_130 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Let’s say this hypothetical woman knew she didn’t like anal before she let her ex try it with her.

Even though she knew it would be unpleasant, she’d rather deal with the unpleasantness in order to please her ex, because she doesn’t want to deny him. The unpleasantness was worth it, just to give her ex the experience.

But with you, the unpleasantness isn’t worth it at all. She’d rather deny you, than make the same sacrifices she made for her ex.

That’s offensive to men, almost universally. I’m not saying it’s moral, or kind, or compassionate or nice. But that’s how the vast majority of men feel in this scenario.

[–]SupercrushhhNo Pill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe her ex was an absolute cunt and acted like an absolute cunt towards her unless she let him do anal. Let’s say, hypothetically, this woman is a good person and was coerced into doing something she didn’t want to do.

That’s offensive to women. Universally.

[–]eaazzy_130 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, you’re right. That is offensive to women.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that? Thats fine, every woman has every right to have the absolute final say about what goes into/onto their bodies.

Men also have a right to not want to date someone that makes her ass off limits, when it wasn’t off limits to prior partners.

Now to address the situation you mentioned, I could still see a lot of men being offended. She was willing to let an “absolute cunt” manipulate his way into her ass, and still continue to date him afterward, but isn’t willing to try it once with me in a safe, controlled environment? That’s how a lot of men look at it. Again, it’s not moral, or compassionate. It’s just how most men feel, and they can’t help it.

[–]Hatefulmalez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

men arent entitled to anything including anal. you are doing tons of women a favor by ditching them after they reject you for sex.

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

By being willing to do something for her ex but not for her current partner. Yes.

[–]Nodoxxintoxin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Welp, it takes all kinds!

[–]HumanSockPuppetEqual-Opportunity Oppressor-1 points0 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

A woman's sexual past can be inferred from her behaviour. Specifically, from the state of her capacity to pair bond.

If she's playful, eager, and enraptured with a guy, then odds are she's not too damaged.

If on the other hand her affect is flat, or she seems generally unimpressed or unexpressive, then she has likely seen more hotdogs than a baseball stadium.

[–]Ofourkind3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Seems like you're confusing trauma with sexual experience

[–]HumanSockPuppetEqual-Opportunity Oppressor0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If she's traumatized then I definitely don't want to date her.

[–]Ofourkind1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Be that as it may, you are talking about two totally different things

[–]findingfemininitysend birb memes4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Or maybe she's just not that into you

[–]HumanSockPuppetEqual-Opportunity Oppressor1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It could be that.

But when most others girls respond enthusiastically, and then one comes along who's as responsive as a week-old caught tuna, you start to suspect.

[–]happycheese86No Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I see the same pattern you're talking about, but I think there's a different cause. How responsive a woman is to male attention is directly correlated to the number of shitty men they have run into. If I dress comfortably (trashy to most people, but clean), don't wear makeup, and don't encourage interaction, it's because I'm sick of attention from men. Other women encourage and reveal in it, and that's fine, but chances are she has low self-esteem and wants a father figure to give her attention.

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahahaha I must be a wide eyed innocent virgin!!!

[–]Manhater6660 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

ask me how i know you have never been with a girl.

[–]DasHylen0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

people like you - those who assume whether one is a virgin or not - are so fucking stupid.

"He has a different view on women, he must be a virgin, and that is a fact"

and judging by your post history, you yourself are a virgin

[–]Manhater6660 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

looks like i hit a nerve. dont forget to cry yourself to sleep, incel.

[–]DasHylen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ouch, you called me an incel, oof, that hurt me.

[–]goy880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

😭😭

[–]oftheinfinite 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

It comes off as childish if you say ‘but she gave it up for Chad!’

I wonder how women would feel when they learn that the guy they are dating/LTRing/married spent very well on women in his past but suddenly became cheaper and stingier with her and put in a lesser, half-ass effort in the relationship (not doing dishes, laundry, etc.) I would call women who expect more of a man in a relationship to be childish.

[–]insultin_crayon 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Found the incel.

[–]SpecialSpnk0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy Link

If she is not willing to give you everything she is just not that into you. Im an all or nothing kind of man and if she isn't willing to try a bunch of stuff with me I'm not interested. Especially if she was doing it before.

[–]BleachedJam3 points4 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

If she is not willing to give you everything she is just not that into you.

Or she doesn't enjoy it...

[–]SpecialSpnk-1 points0 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

As long as your willing to try a few times then that is what is required.

[–]BleachedJam2 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Shes required to do something she knows she doesn't like? I feel sorry for any woman that dates you...

[–]SpecialSpnk-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Well they don't complain honey

[–]BleachedJam2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Highly doubt that.

[–]SpecialSpnk-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You don't know me at all. The sex I have is what guys dream of and jerk off to. Am I demanding dominant and pushy yea, fucking right I am. But I am also loving, caring and considerate.

[–]BleachedJam2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]SpecialSpnk-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That is why a large part of relationships is making sacrifices and considering the other persons wants and needs

[–]BleachedJam2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Just curious, how old are you?

[–]SpecialSpnk-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm about to go meet up with a bunch of girls in there early 20s and fuck at least one of them tonight who has been sending me pics of her breast reduced tits. Ahhh it's a hard life. I'm 30 btw

[–]BleachedJam1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My goodness are you a troll account? Everything you post reeks of 14 year old virgin posting on r/ihavesex.

[–]SpecialSpnk-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Have a good night flicking the bean at home

[–]BleachedJam2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is that suppose to be an insult? That's all you've got? Oh man, I am so upset... so insulted. What ever will I do after that radical burn I just got?

[–]eaazzy_13-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She’s required to try it, IF she wants commitment from him. Not required to try it, period.

[–]BleachedJam1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is exactly why I feel sorry for any woman he dates.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't. I just assume she's been with 100s of guys and leave it at that. It's a pretty good heuristic.

[–]axiszpointa 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Theory: you only notice the women super attractive enough to get many partner that meet the high standards women demand. You ignore normal/unattractive women so fail to notice the average woman unable to find a sexy man for casual sex who prioritizes commitment and relationships

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No unattractive women have more sexual partners than attractive women (perhaps they have less bargaining power?).

God knows how many partners unattractive women have if I only notice the so called pretty women.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

However many men she says shes been with... quadruple

[–]darksoldierkPurple Pill-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

> How do you know what a girl has or has not done with other guys, especially in the early phases of a sexual relationship?

Well, women are never honest about these things, my general rule is, if she says she doesn't like it, then it means she's tried it. If she says she tried it once, then it means she's done it a low. As honest of an answer as you can expect is "yeah, we used to do that, but I never really enjoyed it", and that one is fun because she's basically telling you she used to do it for others, but she's not going to do it for you.

> And why does it matter what she did or didn’t do with other guys on a line-item basis? Why don’t you just establish from the outset your sexual expectations and if she fails to meet them leave?

It matters. And "just leave" is not fair judgement call. It's a difficult option for men because they have to go back to playing the dreadful dating game, which from men's point of view, is a nightmare. It's easy for women to say "oh if you don't like it, leave", but let me put it in perspective for you, say you date a guy and he kept you strung along for 5 years about wanting children. Then in year 5 when you are, say, 33, he tells you he doesn't want to get married and doesn't want kids. Is "just leave" really an option for the woman at that point? It's more or less exactly like that for guys. By the time they get a date, they've been rejected so many times that they are already done with dating.

In regards to the actual acts, it's like, imagine if I told you (general "you" not specific) that for my previous girlfriends, I went out of my way to set up romantic dinners, surprises, these crazy birthdays and anniversaries, and then you notice that with you, the most I'll do for a birthday is take you out to dinner. You want the romance, the attention, you want me to do crazy things for your birthdays and for our anniversaries, and you know I've done it in the past. Do you car if I told you "I did it, I really hated the headache of setting these things up, and just don't think it's worth the trouble" youd say "well, at least once in a while?".

Same deal

> If you need anal and blowjobs to be happy fair enough but why are you making it about her? It comes off as childish if you say ‘but she gave it up for Chad!’

Because it is about her.

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