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To men: let's try this the other way around, I'm curious what people may say.


[–]Pontifex_Lucious-II40 points41 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

That women value the opinions of women faaaaaaar more than those of men.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope13 points14 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Except whe she sees you as superior.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

correct. If you're a superior or a guardian those words cut her deep. This person is basically just outling the fact that womens peer groups are important to them. Women don't like certain men bad mouthing them. It hurts.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Idk what you mean by guardian, though.

A woman will listen to your opinion if she thinks you are smart enough to have an authority.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Guardian like a brother, uncle. A male figure whom she respects. That means alot to her as well. The key is you have to have status or authority that's validated or external sources that confirm sed authority. That always flusters them because their acts of rebellion seem impotent or childish.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What kind of rebellion? Does divorce count for a rebellion?

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're going to divorce your father? Rebellion like the little games they play, & annoying temper tantrums & shit.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, if we talk exactly about relatives, girls can act as boys, run away from the home, etc.

I dunno how it translates to adult life, though.

[–]Nobodykers4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Depends on the subject. If it is about whether that skirt is too short then men's opinion is pretty much worthless obviously.

[–]LonelyCosAutistic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a man and short skirts are out for summer 2019. It's all about shorts and yoga pants.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn this is a good one.

When women get their hair done, by a new handbag, etc it’s to impress other women not other men.

When men do similar style or grooming stuff it’s to impress women, not men

[–]Nobodykers70 points71 points  (31 children) | Copy Link

That they can be insecure regardless of infinite attention from nerds.

Male sexual attention is one of the most worthless things in existence. Its why they give it so easily. Its like sperm.

[–]welcometothejlRed Pill Man17 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Remember, if you're a nerd, your attention is worthless just like the red pill says.

[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Socially awkward, out of shape men are uninteresting to women, news at 11.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yikes, lol.

[–]usegao8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Socially awkward, out of shape men are uninteresting to women, news at 11.

[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

False, I know a few VERY good looking socially awkward guys, women come to them.

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm, thats how I got my first girlfriend when I had no idea how to socialize with women.

[–]tickledpic18 points19 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

However male non-sexual attention is invaluable.

That's why women prefer for most men not to be direct, so they wouldn't have to reject them and could get free non-sexual attention. Which is why direct sexual offers will often get adverse reactions. Because women HATE to reject men.

Most men think women love rejecting... not true at all. They need something you have. It's just might not be what you want from them.

[–]Nobodykers10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Women do indeed value male friendship in my experience. Reddit loves to call me an incel when they see my comment history, yet irl i am unattractive as fuck, but valued as a friend to women quite often. They care about my opinion and they like to have me around even though i dont do anything for them really except hanging out. Too bad i generally dislike people, so i declined more often as time got on, and i have kinda faded away from their lives over the past year. I often feel they value me more than vice versa, which kinda makes me feel bad.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s sad that a frequent compliment I got from my female friends is that I’m not always trying fuck them like other guys.

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And then you fucked them?

[–]decoy88Black Male in London1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

haha only one but that was all her tryna fuck me. Some women can't handle a man only wanting friendship

[–]MisterJose1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I'm spoiled in this limited way, but it's worth so little to me to be valued as a friend to women. That's easy. I KNOW I can do that, I've done it many times. But it's draining, and doesn't do anything for me on my end, so why am I doing it?

[–]Nodoxxintoxin3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I hate rejecting anyone, male or female tbh. I really hate rejecting anyone older than me.

[–]usegao4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

emotional plates, everyone needs at least 3

[–]MisterJose1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

See, so much of what we hear about these things seems to insist on some kind of quid-pro-quo. But then no one wants that. I used to be the guy who was totally willing to offer the non-sexual attention, and it was happily accepted, but then I got nothing back. And of course, I'm a horrible human for wanting anything back, or so I was told, so what I learned is to never offer the non-sexual attention up front ever again. So now no one is happy. This doesn't seem like a great social paradigm.

[–]tickledpic1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ask yourself why is nobody happy in your situation? If you offer only your sexual attention then somebody should be happy as you should be enjoying each other sexually. Maybe you have to work on your seduction skills.

[–]MisterJose0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think I have some seduction skills, the problem is that my understanding of turn-ons comes from my own turn-ons. Often women want a softer or more romantic path, and I'm like 'what the hell is sexy about that?'

A related problem I've run into a few times is that I naturally like power dynamics - If she was like "Get your ass over to my place tonight, no fucking excuses." I would totally be turned on by that - so, wanting to have fun with that kind of thing, I've done some version of that myself, and it hasn't translated. Maybe because I'm a physically big guy, it's too much? Suffice to say I've hit the wrong tone several times, and I think it's because her version of the right tone is something I consider boring and would make me lose my erection in the process.

[–]tickledpic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, I have said "ohh, yes, I'll fuck your head" in response to her accusing me with fucking with her head. Next time we went straight to her place and she sucked me off like there is no tommorow.

There is nothing wrong with expressing what you really think and want. It just depends on how smooth you are and how attracted she is to you.

[–]CamoWoobie10000Women are SHIT0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think honestly that would be the most realistic way to put the SMP more in men's favor. If every man simply stopped talking to women who didnt put out after X amount of time, women would put out more often. Male "thirst" (and I hate that fucking word) is unavoidable. Treating women like holes and then leaving when those holes are unavailable is something that is a lot more realistic. Honestly that is what I already see happening more and more. Barring hot girls, a lot of guys will just drop off if a girl doesnt have sex within the first couple dates, shit with me personally I start getting pissed if she doesnt put out on the first date. Only low value guys thenwoman doesnt want anyways stick around (unless the girl is hot). You see women get pissed when guys excuse themselves from the friendzone, and you see women get jealous when their most prized house n* orbiter starts giving and getting attention from another woman.

[–]Ladyofblades3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This sounds a really toxic mindset tbh. Leave so they put out more? How about just leave someone who’s not interested so your energy isn’t wasted and just cut losses and move on to the next without being spiteful about it? This thinking only encourages dudes to be bitter.

[–]classylassy283 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahah so true!

[–]Boobear34 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The women who think beta orbiter attention is positive have never had special attention from a guy they’re actually into and attracted to. Most actual attractive women don’t get their self esteem from ugly/weird men thirsting after them.

[–]Nobodykers4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Most normal women dont.

[–]Boobear33 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but there are a good amount of weird “quirky” type girls online who do.

[–]SqueaksScreech2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Finally someone who understands.

[–]Bestprofilename1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

But that's because they want the top level guys not the skinny, ugly, fat, lacking machismo etc guys. Even then the top level guys are much more likely to sleep around so they can be insecure even if that guy purports to like her

[–]Nobodykers2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

True as well. Even top level guys dont mind spreading their sperm around. Its biology. Male sexual attention is worthless compared to female sexual attention.

[–]usegao2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

true. and the reverse for conversation.

[–]Ladyofblades0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Male conversation (on the basis of sex) isn’t that valuable either. Would argue that’s a function of intellect and not gender.

[–]max_peenorCertified TRP Shitlord0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Male sexual aggression on the other hand...

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (86 children) | Copy Link

That as a woman being chosen for casual sex more than you’re chosen for a relationship is not a compliment or even flattering.

[–]Sociallyfunctional 1 points [recovered]  (16 children) | Copy Link

Yeh totally I found it insulting tbh

[–]LeadInfusedRedPill🐕 Woof 🐕[S] 11 points12 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Wouldn't it be insulting? You're pretty enough to fuck but aren't good enough to date

[–]Sociallyfunctional 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yea it made me really sad and felt shitty

[–]jessicaannpin0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

How do you know that’s actually what was going on? Maybe they just weren’t wanting a relationship

[–]Sociallyfunctional 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

I wasnt into casual at all so he lied and said he was into me and we dated for a few months before I slept w him

Turns out he had a gf all along, I felt shitty and stupid and used for a while

I'm over it, just had to adjust my worldview

[–]jessicaannpin1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow. That is awful

[–]TheReformist946 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's better than getting neither.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re only guessing at that. And assuming the sex is enjoyable.

[–]jessicaannpin2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That’s not what it means. What if he just doesn’t want a relationship?

What if she just doesn’t want a relationship?

With the guy I’ve liked the most in the past few years, I texted, “I can’t get involved rn bc I’m insecure, homeless, and unstable.” By “homeless,” I meant living in a $4000 a month air bnb. But still.

I followed up with, “I hope we can still bang. If not, let me know so I can forget about you ASAP.”

So he said he didn’t think we should see each other anymore and blocked me on Facebook.

But the next time I saw him, he gave me a hug, kissed me on the forehead, introduced me to his friends (which we had to walk over to do), and remembered my brother’s name.

I don’t know if it’s clear. But what really happened is I was just too scared to get involved with someone I liked so much. I didn’t think someone like him could be into someone like me. He kept texting me compliments and those heart eye emojis. It was making me nervous and I didn’t want to be worrying about it.

Recently, in December, I told a guy on tinder I was just trying to get laid and really needed a big cock. I actually made a separate tinder without my face to do this. That is really all I wanted. But I should have known better than to choose him for the job.

He was an adorable biotech ceo. We had too much in common. He was too smart and too nice. He was telling me how I’m the most talented person he knows who doesn’t realize it yet, how I’m gorgeous, how I’m a sweetheart. So I started liking him. And then all this anxiety set in over whether I was just his slam piece.

I should have addressed it directly, but one problem was I still didn’t want a relationship. So there I was wanting him to want a relationship with me for the sake of my ego but not talking about how I felt bc I didn’t want to be in a relationship with anyone, which is why I was just looking to get laid from the beginning. But all the times we hung out, we met at a bar, except when I invited him straight to my hotel.

He said, “maybe we should go shopping for our next date.” Maybe that meant he thought we were dating? I don’t know. But I got insecure about it because of this idea that men don’t have standards for casual sex and I might just be a convenient bang buddy. The irony is that’s what I started out wanting him for.

So anyway I flipped out and sent a bunch of psycho texts over all the “signs” that maybe he didn’t really care shout me and wasn’t really listening. And when he just said things that didn’t respond to the meaning of what I was saying, like “sorry I’ve had crazy meetings all week,” I felt like my suspicions were confirmed and I got more crazy. Then my insecurity turned to anger and I started coming up with ways in which he was an asshole, like he told me “money doesn’t matter, you’re missing the big picture,” but he’s shopping for 7 million dollar houses like a rich asshole and not getting what it’s like to be me. But the only asshole was me. It’s like once I feel insecure, I force an ending to resolve it. And it’s this idea that men will fuck anyone that causes the insecurity.

I wish it didn’t have to mean there’s any rejection going on. That would remove all the bs from the equation. Maybe it’s just casual sex because that’s what two people want. And it doesn’t necessarily mean anyone is lowering their standards or rejecting anyone else. The door should still be as open as it would have been otherwise.

[–]DatasianAssssss20f|Christian|curious🍑1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

U need to fix ur insecurities. Rejecting hurts but thats all about it. Its not about you, not about your pussy, not about anything but its about him. His choice matter as much as your so if he chooses that he's only in it for sex it doesnt mean you are less than what you are. It doesnt mean he think yout not good enough or your not beautiful but its about him choosing to not be in a commitment which is okay.

I think women to women, you need to stop being crazy. I use to be like "well he needs to know i get crazy" but i realize now that i need to grow the ef up. Being crazy isnt a character but a bad attitude.

[–]jessicaannpin1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What are you even talking about? It’s not clear that either of those men ever rejected me for a relationship.

But yeah I agree I acted crazy and that it wasn’t cool.

[–]DatasianAssssss20f|Christian|curious🍑0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess were both crazy lol

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You weren't by chance raised with very strict ideas about sex, were you? I only ask that because your thinking is similar to mine except I behave in the other extreme; by avoiding men as much as I possibly can. I've only dated 4 men and they were all circumstantial and out of the blue. I was raised that pre-marital sex was sinful and that men, deep down, prefer "nice, decent, women." They'll have sex with the sluts because they're giving it away easy, but they won't respect them. And, hand to God, I was told this by grandmother, aunt, and my mother: "If you have sex with a man and he's not your husband, it doesn't matter what he tells you, deep down he won't respect you. He'll consider you "common" like every other girl out there.

So, I have carried that mindset since I was like 11 or 12. And I actually grew to hate sex because of it. Do you think it's possible that a part of you actually hates sex also and if a man sleeps with you before "putting a ring on it," you don't believe that he's genuine and only using you? Let me know if I'm way off, here.

[–]roguish_rogue1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I imagine its not that different from a young guy feels by being good enough to be a girls "BFF" but not good enough for intimacy. Unless its one of those rare cases where the girl actually tries to help him get him laid, this is rare because she risks losing alot of his attention if he gets a girlfriend.

[–]BlindingTwilight 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy Link

Alternatively it just means she is smoking hot and everyone wants to fuck her

[–]Whiteberry16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

i find that men who choose women for casual sex do it often and their standards aren't that high

[–]Wandos7naproxen sodium7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Often it means they think she looks easy and ugly enough she’ll work harder to make it better for him, good enough to dump a fuck into but wouldn’t want his friends to find out. Not flattering.

[–]roguish_rogue1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mens standards usually correlate somewhat to their options imo, virtually all men choose women for casual sex if they can, most cant.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely right. Only high SMV dudes have consistently great choices in casual sex. That's why I always scoff at dudes who're like "yea just put yourself out there man you're trying too hard." no I don't want to fuck a clammy half drunk body in a dark room or a fatty who's rolls I can't distinguish from her ass cheeks.

Dudes like that are Fucking hounds bro.

[–]taimoor28 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This is not true. Women selected for casual sex are more likely to be less than average who are easy. The smoking hot ones are rarely available for casual sex and tend to be in stable relationships.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is BS. Slutty Stacies simply are fucking Chads.

[–]Ladyofblades6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They're right though. There's been a study on it that the more attractive women tend to have lower N count and more often are attached.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's also been a study showing women with more attractive faces have more unrestricted sociosexual orientation.

Unattractive women might be dumped more often, not that they deliberately choose hook ups more often.

[–]Undead_Chronic15 points16 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Its insulting when men are never considered for casual sex but are good enough to.pay for the relationship

[–]idhavetocharge8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Thats bullshit. Its like catcalling, it might seem flattering... Until you experience it and realize how demeaning and insulting it actually is.

Casual sex is NOT fun for a lot of women. For many women Its about as enjoyable as being used as walking wallet.

People want to be liked and wanted for who they are, not for what you can be used for and thrown away after.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like you’re not being self aware here. To men casual sex is extremely validating, and only being chosen for a relationship is not. Meanwhile the opposite is true women. This is all general btw, there are some special cases.

The point being both gender want different things from the situation. That’s just how it is, somewhere along the way, one side isn’t getting what they really want.

[–]Undead_Chronic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats interesting because hookup culture is dominant for a reason- girls let chad smash

[–]MasonMan12341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, I don't understand how women don't understand that making men wait for sloppy seconds is insulting.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you, but that would be something women don’t understand

[–]LeadInfusedRedPill 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

Hoes mad x24

[–]Barneysparky0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can you write that so I can understand it? I'm not cross about it, I just don't know what your sentence means.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

If you're not going to be a good steward of your OP, please let me know so I can shut this down right now.

[–]LeadInfusedRedPill🐕 Woof 🐕[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right I'm sorry

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you.

[–]Bntt892 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because you are looking at it through the eyes of a man. Casual sex is always pleasurable for us, because sex is great. But for women sex isn't always great. Also their is the insult to the ego.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m a guy, and I’m aware of that and see it exactly the same.

Again, the questions is toward men about what we think most men don’t realize about women. Not that I agree or know from personal experience, just stating a fact.

[–]Bntt890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dont worry I get it I'm just stating why we fail to see it. I thought the same way very recently.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

That's nothing. Try being the gender that's by default judged unworthy of even basic empathy, much less sex or relationships, and the onus is on you as a man to become worthy. Try living like that. At least one feminist lesbian researcher did and it sent her ass packing back home with antidepressants.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I’m a man, I know the struggles we face. The question was “what do most men not understand about women” and the question was directed toward men. I was just answering the question which is true, that’s usually thing I see. Don’t get me wrong, I would absolutely love having the problem of only being wanted for casual sex, but men and women have different feelings on casual sex in general.

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Men and women are very different in this area. My worst nightmare is being only wanted for casual sex. Truth be told, that would probably make me suicidal considering my issues. That's why I avoid. There's too much going on with me from a mental health standpoint, and something like that would destroy me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Sorry to hear that.

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. Very odd that I was downvoted for admitting that being wanted only for casual sex would make me suicidal. Very odd. Humans are very cold creatures.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s just difficult to put yourself in another person’s shoes, especially when they have something you want a lot but complain about it. It’s kind of like a billionaire complaining he has money, financial security, etc to a person living paycheck to paycheck or someone living below the poverty line. Yeah it sucks, but that won’t stop people from wanting to be rich because your experience might not be theirs.

Don’t get me wrong, despite your awful experience having casual sex is the only thing I could ever want. The one thing to understand is that not everyone’s experience will be the same, and to convince someone that they shouldn’t want it because your experience was bad is doing the same things people who downvoted you for. I get it, bad things happened, but I still wish I could have even the choice in the privilege.

However, I’m sorry that it didn’t work out for you though. Hoping that things are better now.

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I view sex as the enemy. I'm a Christian though, so even I can acknowledge my views on it aren't healthy nor correct. It was created by God for a husband and wife. Some REALLY messed up things happen to me as a child and an adult, though. And that has shaped my personal views on the activity. That's why I avoid men. I know that most of you think that way and it makes me very uncomfortable.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough.

[–]Texastentialismshe's got a tattoo and two pet snakes2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The person you're responding to is a man.

[–]OatsGYOWMGTOW5 points6 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Isn't it fairly common for women to complain about losing male attention as they get older and hit the wall? If women didn't enjoy that validation, Instagram wouldnt be nearly as popular with women as it is.

I mean, how often are these complaints just thinly-veiled cries for attention? How often is it that the woman doesnt actually know what she wants?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What are you trying to say here

[–]OatsGYOWMGTOW-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm saying his belief is cemented in what women women tell him, rather than how they act.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are tons of women who dont do the social media validation thing, ime that group overlaps with the women who want relationships not casual from a young age

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater8 points9 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Let me put it this way. Attraction is like drugs. If you've never been on drugs getting one hit of cheap shit will get you fucked up good and proper. If you're high 24/7 nothing will affect you unless it's high grade synthetic shit. For the sake of this discussion your average woman has drugs constantly available. They're past weed or coke or even heroin in a lot of cases and they're chasing that dangerous super strong fentaynl high that is a 9-10/10 dude.

This is why when you see women who suddenly get little or no male attention they can't take it and will turn weird very quickly. There was this one expat who was in her late 20's as a white woman and went to Japan, which has a very different culture where she wasn't considered the hot thing and cold approaches are often unheard of. In under a year she turned into a bitter femcel who hated any dude who was getting action easier than her and wrote a giant ass blog post about how she was just too glamorous and sexy and stunned Japanese men into inaction but who needs them anyway. Because she went from abundance to cold turkey literally in the day it took her to get there and it fucked her up royally.

[–]gunbusterxl🦄 Licensed Unicorn Hunter 🏹8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's goddamn hilarious. I lived there for seven years as a black dude and it's pretty much the exact opposite. For whatever reason, Japanese girls love black guys. You get bigger discounts to get into some clubs than women do, and can pretty much date any girl you want. I'm assuming that's what it'd be like to be a western woman in modern times.

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shit. I'm going to Japan in a few months and now I guess I got something to look forward to.

[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Friend of mine worked in Japan and she had a similar experience minus the breakdown. She couldn't get laid.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Asian dudes are not like western men. There's only a certain amount of bullshit they will put up with. Western men will literally buy ass sweat from influencers in yoga pants & then brag to their friends.

[–]usegao1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

asian men will give you a stern glare if you make them hold your purse too much.

[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Isn't Japan the land of used panty vending machines?

[–]Jasontheperson1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Those aren't legal anymore, but yeah.

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

interesting, i have a relatively frumpy american friend who moved to japan and got married to a wealthy celebrity there in under a year

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

nice

[–]qantuumNo Pill0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

poor thing... may I see the blog? for study purposes.

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]DatasianAssssss20f|Christian|curious🍑0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree and im a women lol

[–]CamoWoobie10000Women are SHIT1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Then why do so many women keep having casual sex?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, it depends on the reasons. I’m not a woman, so this is outside looking in.

Casual Sex with a hot dude is fun - Occasionally women might want to go out and just have a ONS or Casual relationship with a hot dude. Obviously they have so many options, so they just pick the best of those options. Hooking up with Chads can be fun for them, usually this is during the “fun” phase women talk about in their college years and early 20s. Usually after a breakup, are bored, and want to explore their sexuality.

Casual sex might make him want me - Another thing I see common here is that a woman wants a relationship with the dude, but he has no intention of speaking to her right after the sex. So she thinks if she’s super good in bed it might help her chances, but it doesn’t. Sometimes a “fuckboy” will promise a relationship or commitment, but then re-neg afterward, but since he’s usually hot, and she’s so attached at this point, she can’t stay away or just say “no” to him.

I Hate Myself and Just Want To Feel Something - On a lesser amount, I find this to be one too. Some women use it as a way to numb whatever sadness or self hate they have, and feel that being wanted is nice, even for a moment. Usually the femcels are guilty of this.

There are many others, and yeah sometimes the casual sex is validating. But it’s nowhere near the level of validation a man experiences when gets a hookup, and all of these are supposed to be temporary solutions. If a woman finds herself constantly being the second scenario, it’s stops being fun, and more of an insult. I also want to mention that any of these are only with men who are the most attractive that are interested in them, but that goes without saying.

Again, just a dude looking in, but based on women I know personally, and stuff I read on here from users who are women, I gather these are the usual scenarios.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hope

[–]SupremeMystique0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exact opposite for a man.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It truly is.

[–]Bloodypalace-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, most guys don't even have that option so...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup, I don’t. I was just answering the question

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, I have female friends who complain to me about this among other things. The level of married dudes who're looking for a side-chick & stuff. The don't they want the grand pirze. Specifically a partner that wants to lock them down.

[–]welcometothejlRed Pill Man6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They don't want us to just hang out with them, they want us to want to hang out with them.

[–]Nobodykers2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Underrated. Women dont invite you anymore if you decline 2 times. My guy friends keep inviting me after multiple declines.

Womens validation comes from how attractive they are to be around. Men's validation is satisfied as long as they have a few good friends who are sometimes around. If that good friend is quiet for a month, men dont really care or think of it as a bad sign.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

That a lot of times, casual doesn’t even feel good, physically. Men like sex because it makes our dicks pleasurably tingly and good sensations. But what if it didn’t?

Lots of incels here say “validation” lol fuck that. “Validation” of sex wouldn’t be enough of a dopamine hit for us to pursue it so much.

A lot of men have a very very very strong mental association that sex = physical pleasure, in any context.

But for many women, casual sex has a high risk of getting sex from a selfish, drunk, lazy asshole. Which equals 0 physical pleasure.

[–]MisterJose0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

That a lot of times, casual doesn’t even feel good, physically. Men like sex because it makes are dicks pleasurably tingly and good sensations. But what if it didn’t?

It's not about just making the naughty bits feel tingly. If I see a woman I'm extremely attracted to, I want to like inhale her. I want to kiss her neck, go down on her, etc. It's not that I need her to give me an orgasm.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There’s only so much of that you’d be happy with if you didn’t feel pleasurable sensations. I wasn’t even referring to orgasms in my last comment

[–]MisterJose1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Arguably, the pleasurable sensation is some kind of 'relief'. It's painful to be in the room with that woman and not be able to touch her. Being able to is like getting to scratch the itch.

Also, huge ego here. I can't tell you the pains it gives me to sit here and feel behind my peers, even some of the ones who have no remote business being ahead of me in anything. To be able to have that "I'm awesome, I'm winning the game, making more money, banging hotter chicks...God this feels good, " feeling flowing through me is important, and a better record with women goes a long way toward that.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but sex can feel good without orgasm. Not even having that is worse than not engaging at all.

That ego boost is short lived. And not pleasurable enough to incentivise men across the board.

[–]ForeingFlower9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The replies are full of men answering for women and not having an idea of what they are talking about.

[–]BraSS7209721 points22 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Woman, more times than not, are pretty reasonable/consistent in their attitude. Just because the method by which they live/make decisions isn't immediately obvious, doesn't make it nonexistent.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Consistent patterns of behavior doesn't preclude irrationality.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I think the major error here is to expect women to act on the pure physical reasoning like men do. Women have way more feelings related to social interaction, and act way more based on feelings, once you consider them in the mix, women behavior becomes easier to predict.

It is not that men thinking of women as reasonable people is wrong... But to consider them too reasonable is the mistake on itself.

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill20 points21 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Men react emotionally all the time. Punching walls, risking their life and health, getting in fights... They just call it "rational" because it makes sense to them. (I'd agree that women are more "socially focused" while men are more "reaction" focused tho.)

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

men are angrier, yes and we hate it. we will avoid it as much as we can. but our risking of life and health? we just dont really care. It is needed. so we do it. (alcohol also helps) That is why men will risk their own lives and health, but will avoid doing so to others.

[–]Logn3r4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

We're programmed to be meat shields in times of need. The same agression that we hate so much nowadays was critical in a time without guns or cars. Where you had to trade for your daily needs and security was not guaranteed.

It's becoming a relic of the past and probably being weeded out through sexual selection, updated child training and societal policing regarding violence which essentially condemns your life to poverty in the long run (reducing smv).

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, it makes you face poverty for life but Violent men reproduce way more than their counter part. aggressiveness is needed to sexual encounters in our society and they will also correlate with not the use of birth control. and also, poorer people just have more descendants. we are heading to a violent world my friend.

If you think violence and stupidity is being weeded out, you need to look at the Y chromosome bottleneck and the recent data on genomics. We are getting more violent and more stupid as smart and nice people weed themselves out of the population.

[–]Ladyofblades0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women tend to select less high testosterone mates in more developed societies, which in conjunction with falling testosterone levels, is pointing to the evolution of a more cooperative world. If the world drops back to Third World tendencies then it’s possible they’d pick high T mates more, but the trend indicates otherwise as nations become more developed.

(To whoever downvoted there’s a research paper on it, I’d suggest you read it).

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes29 points30 points  (39 children) | Copy Link

I never understood why guys claim "a woman could go into a bar and get sex right now". Okay? Sure she could. What exactly would that do for her??

Women largely don't want casual sex, especially with low quality men. Women are juuuuuust fine not having sex and hanging out with their cats rather than stooping to having sex with ugly losers.

[–]LeadInfusedRedPill🐕 Woof 🐕[S] 7 points8 points  (32 children) | Copy Link

Are you saying women don't want to participate in casual sex with good looking men? Everyone already knows women don't want to fuck ugly guys

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are lots of women that aren't interested in casual sex

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes29 points30 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Guys here don't.

They can't comprehend how women could possibly be miserable when they could walk into a bar right now and fuck a toothless hobo.

A lot of these guys would fuck a My 600 Pound Life chick and love every minute of it. The thought that women don't share the same is unfathomable to them.

[–]Blexit2020Red Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not about how he looks (for me). I don't care if I could get attention from...I don't know, Big Sean. If he only wants sex from me, I'm 100% put off by that and not interested.

[–]chrysanthemum_tea1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL too true

[–]MasonMan1234-2 points-1 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

fuck a toothless hobo

Guy who isn't handsome = toothless hobo, most women can get sex from average looking guys but they would rather go for a guy who's out of their league and complain about those guys not wanting to commit.

[–]Boobear30 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

Guys hook up with women who’re in their league all the time. It’s just hook up culture. Good looking guys aren’t all out there only banging fat ugly women. A lot of them can get casual sex from good looking women, they usually lie and lead these women on which is why they come back for more and they convince themselves that the guy likes them

[–]MasonMan12342 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Guys hook up with women who’re in their league all the time.

Good looking guys who hook up with good looking women sure, but ugly and average looking women are hooking up with guys who are out of their league all the time.

[–]Boobear3-1 points0 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

average, yes.. ugly, nah. Most guys would rather just watch porn than hook up with an ugly woman. There are also plenty of average looking guys who get laid if they have decent personalities or they have money.

[–]MasonMan12342 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Most guys would rather just watch porn than hook up with an ugly woman.

Most ugly dudes would rather hook up with an ugly woman than watch porn. Average looking guys are usually hooking up with ugly women, I know from experience.

[–]Boobear3-1 points0 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but you said attractive guys fuck ugly women. Why would they do that when they can easily fuck an average or hot woman

[–]MasonMan12341 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Never said that, I said ugly women hook up with guys out of their league all the time which is true.

[–]findingfemininitysend birb memes6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Even women who participate in casual sex have an end goal of eventually getting one of these guys to commit to a relationship. Women generally aren't happy to spin plates for the long term like many men are.

[–]jessicaannpin1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That’s not true at all. I try to “spin plates” for as long as possible, though I really don’t like sleeping with more than 3 guys at once bc it causes me anxiety about STDs.

Most guys I sleep with aren’t guys I’d consider for relationships. I’m typically not evaluating men for relationship potential and am just trying to get laid and have fun. Sex is hard for me so I’m often just trying to optimize the sex component. It’s very difficult for me to find a guy who is someone I’m into romantically and also someone I’m satisfied with sexually.

Men I date are actually 1.2” taller (6’4”) than men I sleep with casually (6’2.8”). They tend to be better educated and have higher socioeconomic status. They tend to be 2 years older on average versus 1 year younger.

Picking a guy I’d consider for a relationship when I want casual sex is generally a mistake for me because it always escalates and then it ends up being bad timing. This is what happened with the last one. I tried to tell him I wanted to save him for later. I wish he’d just let me do that. What I meant is I wanted to save him for when I was ready to date someone seriously.

At the same time, the closer a guy is to what I want long-term, the higher my bangs/dude is. Even when I am just trying to get laid, the way to maximize efficiency is to maximize the bangs/dude ratio.

So it’s pretty hard to figure out. The best fwb might be a guy who checks off all boxes but has one giant dealbreaker, like is moving or is not age appropriate.

But I’m almost 33 so my friends are telling me I need to be more serious. I’m seeing someone now. The way that happened is he said if I wanted to keep seeing him, I’d have to be exclusive. But I would not have agreed if I thought I could keep dating him and other people.

[–]Jasontheperson0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I tried to tell him I wanted to save him for later. I wish he’d just let me do that. What I meant is I wanted to save him for when I was ready to date someone seriously.

No one wants to be second (or third, etc) fiddle.

[–]jessicaannpin0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s not what it meant. It just meant I liked him so much I wanted to date him but I wasn’t ready to date.

[–]Midnightproxxima0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly what it means. You might tell yourself it isn't but from his perspective what he heard was 'i don't want you now, let me have fun and get random dick now and when I'm ready to settle down you can sweep me off my feet and it'll be worth it (for you, prob not him).'

[–]jessicaannpin0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So? What would be the issue?

[–]insoucianc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He doesn’t want to be your back-up plan, obviously.

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I would disagree. There are plenty of women who spin plates. It's just that every dude has to contribute something meaningful and generally only one or two gets actual genuine affection.

[–]findingfemininitysend birb memes4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn't say women couldn't spin plates, I'm saying most aren't happy to do it long term. I run in mostly BP circles irl and even the most ""sexually liberated"" women I know get tired of it quickly.

On the other hand I know plenty of men who are content spinning plates indefinitely, and some who prefer it over an LTR. I don't know a single woman who would prefer an lifetime of casual sex over a relationship.

[–]jessicaannpin2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know any men who want a lifetime of casual sex.

[–]trail221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I hear women complain that they have a harder time peeing in public, doesnt mean all guy wants to go pee against in an allyway.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Then you're contradicting yourself they do want casual sex. It's just if they perceive it as sucking then the ignore it prospect.

[–]officerkondoRedder Shade of Purple Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women largely don't want casual sex

Is that why chlamydia is everywhere?

[–]MisterJose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What about ugly winners?

[–]Jackpot807Purple Pill Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

:(

[–]TheReformist94-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It means she can go into a bar when her bf is pissing her off,and go fuck some guy even it's a chad to get her rocks off whenever she wants.

If women didn't like casual sex they wouldn't engage in holiday and musical festival sex.

[–]ThisIsJustATr1bute 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

The dynamics of the FSM. The barely notice its existence.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]ThisIsJustATr1buteHas what plants crave1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. She’s discussing my shoes! Behind my back!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a Q4M. Please repost under automod.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If theres no lesbian action occurring or at least a catfight or some mud wrestling, my attention span is out for the count. Call me when this thing heats up.

[–]Pastelitomaracucho9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

That they can somehow make themselves attractive to them if they do X or Y.

Nope. If she didn't decide from the first moment that she liked you, you are going nowhere.

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Are you saying it's looks?

[–]natantantan 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's always looks.

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm starting to agree. I think I should just become a world champion armwrestler instead because getting attractive women is impossible for me. lol

[–]Pastelitomaracucho0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes and no. Looks play a crucial role.

But also how you smell, how she noted and what you were doing when she did, the image and idea of yourself that you projected in that moment. How people around you were treating you. How you were navigating the situation you were at.

It all compounds into an image built in a few minutes.

[–]Jasontheperson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, lots of dudes fail to realize women take in the whole picture when a man approaches or vice versa. They focus on one thing and then get super frustrated they aren't having any luck.

[–]MisterJose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But...I HAVE to fuck her, there must be a way!

[–]misunderstood_9gagerChad is as real as Pepe7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

That most women do not buy into this BS intersectionality feminist crap.

But to break it down by Pill:

What BP - Men fail to understand: Yes, douches get laid. Horrible men do get laid, and they get into relationships with women who should know better than to be with them. I wish it wasnt this way, but it is this way.

What RP - Men fail to understand: Using the tactics of TRP only works on either very insecure women, or women who just want to get laid. Any QUALITY woman who wants a QUALITY relationship will see your shit a mile away, and not talk to you. You will only get low-quality women, or women just looking for sex. Nothing else.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What BP - Men fail to understand: Yes, douches get laid. Horrible men do get laid, and they get into relationships with women who should know better than to be with them. I wish it wasnt this way, but it is this way.

I never got the point of this. It’s like saying how liars and thieves get more money. No shit lol. But do you wanna be a scumbag?

[–]MisterJose1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The first problem is that a 'quality' woman to you is not the same as 'quality' to them. I'm sure the top posts on r/gonewild are not filled with Rhodes scholars and the most decent human beings on the planet, but they are filled with hot young girls that guys really want to fuck.

The second problem is that a 'quality relationship' doesn't mean the same thing either. I probably have little interested in getting involved in that quality woman's version of a quality relationship. Sounds kinda like boring social activities and moving in together and becoming old people worrying about our lawn to me. No thanks.

[–]insoucianc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What women consider RP is what men consider BP, and vice-versa.

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Pill Man0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What RP - Men fail to understand: Using the tactics of TRP only works on either very insecure women, or women who just want to get laid. Any QUALITY woman who wants a QUALITY relationship will see your shit a mile away, and not talk to you. You will only get low-quality women, or women just looking for sex. Nothing else.

That's a lie though. That's only true if he opens his mouth and starts talking red pill around a woman like you. Observing the process changes the process.

Its that disconnect between the words you are speaking (rp only works on insecure woman) and the reality we experience that only proves the truth.

RedPill is sexual strategy that works, and what works is defined by YOU.

YOU TOLD US HOW TO BEHAVE WITH YOUR VAGINA.

[–]misunderstood_9gagerChad is as real as Pepe0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

talking red pill around a woman like you

I am a dude...

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Pill Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fooled me. Are you sure? Go check.

[–]Ultramegasaurus15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

They are shallow too and especially care about your genetic traits such as height, bone structure and hair

[–]69XxXCuckboyXxX698 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

blaccpill > any other pill

[–]insoucianc-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Blackpill is nonsensical. If women only wanted chisel-jawed Chad they’d be the only one reproducing.

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Basically. Nothing else matters except for personality traits that a third grader could accomplish.

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[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman10 points11 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

This will be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less charitable than the other thread. Incoming shit bomb the size of a steroid house.

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that other thread was quite refreshing. A lot of /r/wholesome in there.

[–]Texastentialismshe's got a tattoo and two pet snakes3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You know that female intuition thing.

[–]happycheese86No Pill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Deleted, what did it say?

[–]chocolatchauud 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]happycheese86No Pill2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Classy.

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The other thread linked a comment about how men should be killed en masse. Its hard to go lower than that.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes true dat.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wish they hadn't deleted that post so everyone could see how women really think about men. That would have been quite the wake-up call for bloopers into the distant future.

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Jezibelle brings the crazy.

She shouldn't really be counted among "women".

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You say that like Beachredwine or Marriage is hell speak for all men.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women get bashed because they do dumbshit, & often move in mysterious ways. Like jesus after he drowns a country. Or Asshairs blowing in the summer breeze.

[–]meomeowmeoww 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

silly womins, men are the smartest beings in this universe, they built the cities and everything you use today, they know everything about women and pregnancies and periods and vaginas, they know about everything on Earth.

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Women's rights was a mistake.

[–]OatsGYOWMGTOW0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women's rights were a necessary sacrifice for human equality.

But they were still a sacrifice.

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Kinda joking, kinda not since I'm an ugly person and women having choices is not good for me. Why is equality in and of itself something worth sacrificing for though?

[–]OatsGYOWMGTOW0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Aside from being the most moral and ethical course of action?

Because men are disposable, and women are not. Universal human rights help men far more than they help women, because women do not need them to flourish and keep safe.

It is the same reason why I find abortion disgusting and akin to filicide, but fully support women having the right to get abortions. If I had a human leeching off me for sustenance, I would want the right to punt it off of me immediately.

[–]ThisIsJustATr1buteHas what plants crave3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They miss the dynamics of the FSM and barely notice it exists.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Marriageishell is a much better con artist that I gave him credit for very Day of the Locust.

[–]GridReXXit be like that2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The answers weren’t as good as the OP women answered tbh.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (36 children) | Copy Link

What do we fail to understand? Let's try a more eminently answerable version: what don't we? Why they want things. Why they say things. What they actually mean when they say them. What they're mad about this time. Wait, is she actually mad or just hormonal? Welp, she said she's fine... I guess she must be. Time to focus back on the game.

Pretty much the less a given man understands women, the more I can be sure he is an upright and forthright individual with good taste and interesting hobbies, just generally a person worth associating with. Conversely, any man who understands women is, to some extent, able to think like one, and is therefore untrustworthy and unpredictable, if not outright insane.

Some things are, and should remain, inscrutable. Women were not meant for man to truly know. Much like the hard problem of consciousness, the fundamental question of metaphysics, what dreams may come as we exit plato's cave -- whatever strange tempests churn the alien landscape of the feminine mind are, like the storms under the veil of jupiter's toposphere, not to be glimpsed by mortal man, lest he be torn asunder and dissolved in their sheer primal chaos.

[–]GridReXXit be like that6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lol here you go

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I smoke two joints in time of peace, and two in time of war. I smoke two joints before I post my points, and then I smoke two more.

[–]GridReXXit be like that3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Keep the good stuff coming !

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No doubt. I got high marks from you AND Atlas, thats enough coolidge effect to keep me going for hours.

[–]GridReXXit be like that5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your hotep derail sold me. Bless!

[–]Tyler_GatsbyNo mas Sancho3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Conversely, any man who understands women is, to some extent, able to think like one, and is therefore untrustworthy and unpredictable, if not outright insane.

Haha, almost take that personally you tighty whitey wearing son of a bitch. Loyalty to my word is something I take very seriously.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If you think about it though, Jay Gatsby was a made up persona that Jimmy Gatz created to go from a rough and tumble man of action into a posh capitalist living a life of luxury, and Tyler Durden was a fictitious persona created to effect the exact opposite transition. Does that say something about America, how times have changed? Or is everything just a cycle between decadence and authenticity and we just go back and forth across history? Or am I just reading way more into your username than even you ever did?

[–]Tyler_GatsbyNo mas Sancho3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It does have a sort of a Marilyn Manson duality to it yes. And I do see it as a transition of perspective too, like you said, yes. We're posed to be trying to out r/aww the girls on this post right now over how good they were in the other one about us. We've dropped the ball hellaciously so far.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn't see the other one bro, gimme a link

[–]Tyler_GatsbyNo mas Sancho0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's literally 2 post down from this one if you sort by new. Same thing, but Q4Women

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You are who I immediately thought of, Mr. Charming ENFJ

[–]Tyler_GatsbyNo mas Sancho0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

D'awwee! Thanks for gagging on my shoe about it in the process.

[–]LeadInfusedRedPill🐕 Woof 🐕[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some things are, and should remain, inscrutable. Women were not meant for man to truly know. Much like the hard problem of consciousness, the fundamental question of metaphysics, what dreams may come as we exit plato's cave -- whatever strange tempests churn the alien landscape of the feminine mind are, like the storms under the veil of jupiter's toposphere, not to be glimpsed by mortal man, lest he be torn asunder and dissolved in their sheer primal chaos.

LMFAO please post more this is so good

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You’re my new favorite poster here bro.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Donate to my patreon and ill livepost my next psilocybin trip to the spirit realm

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Done. Also let me know if you’re selling bath water, I got a friend who would like some,

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew12 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much the less a given man understands women, the more I can be sure he is an upright and forthright individual with good taste and interesting hobbies, just generally a person worth associating with. Conversely, any man who understands women is, to some extent, able to think like one, and is therefore untrustworthy and unpredictable, if not outright insane.

this is an OUTSTANDING comment that shows more understanding of the "men's alpha" vs the "women's alpha" than ive ever seen not flowing directly from my own fingertips

[–]LeadInfusedRedPill🐕 Woof 🐕[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn feels bad

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You know you made the narcissist proud when she accords you the honor of being the bargain bin version of herself

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the highest compliment i can bestow upon anyone

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you ever get tired of bootlicking these social rejects?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not to worry, she has plenty of help

[–]TheReformist940 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeh because they're bblissfully unaware of the bullsjit women pull off as they dedicate themselves to their life mission. Not easily manipulated

[–]BlindingTwilight 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

The paradox here is that you have already put yourself into the box with the other men who understand women. You get them and now you have been hoisted by your own petard. I don’t mean this as an insult in any way, your own wisdom has dragged you too far into the abyss. When you gaze into an abyss, the abyss gazes back into you....

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You get them and now you have been hoisted by your own petard

If thats anything like being able to suck your own peen, I guess Ill be fine

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

does this guy seen sane to you? does any guy on the red pill?

maybe he has some point.

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much the less a given man understands women, the more I can be sure he is an upright and forthright individual with good taste and interesting hobbies, just generally a person worth associating with. Conversely, any man who understands women is, to some extent, able to think like one, and is therefore untrustworthy and unpredictable, if not outright insane.

I think this is how I end up choosing my friends as well. lol

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some things are, and should remain, inscrutable. Women were not meant for man to truly know. Much like the hard problem of consciousness, the fundamental question of metaphysics, what dreams may come as we exit plato's cave -- whatever strange tempests churn the alien landscape of the feminine mind are, like the storms under the veil of jupiter's toposphere, not to be glimpsed by mortal man, lest he be torn asunder and dissolved in their sheer primal chaos.

Jesus Christ man, this shit is epic. May I add on to this greatness?

Trying to understand the female mind is like touring the harder-core Daedric planes of Oblivion: particularly the Shivering Isles, but also Deadlands, Spiral Skein and Ashpit. It is also much like traversing the Immaterium in 40k, complete with potential run-ins with the dark minions and deities of Chaos. Like venturing in either realm unprotected and unprepared, the attempt to understand the chaotic mind of a woman will have beyond devastating mental consequences for a man.

[–]Almondxxx0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I’m sure most men who have dated enough, been around women.... understand that fine does not mean fine lol

It’s weird. When I say “fine” I want to make sure my SO is listening and cares about what I am about to say..so I won’t feel bad about not feeling fine.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

As I said before: sheer primal chaos

[–]Almondxxx0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. Too busy worrying about feelings! Lol (exhausting)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

yes. it is really is exausting... why you do it anyway? communication is for message transmition you know?

[–]Almondxxx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What? Because I want to gage whether he really wants to hear what’s wrong. I also decide in that moment if I am really going to say what’s wrong. It also seems like they really care if they know you aren’t really fine.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry? did you just say you refused to give information because of wanted to gauge him?

[–]jessicaannpin-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is ridiculously misogynistic

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

excel in everything you do

[–]sunsinclair1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you want good sex it is hard to overstate how much her being your surrogate mother will harm that. And it’s hard to state how automatic the instinct will be for her to do that with you if you are overly passive, prematurely scared, and naively withheld.

As a man something that I’ve found women don’t know about me is how much of what seems like selfishness is actually very self conscious. We are often evaluating how we are suppose to be and trying to fit into that. Even kind of bad porn influenced sex is at its heart not selfish but self conscious. He’s bad at sex because he’s watching himself have sex and evaluating it. Most men need permission to be more self and relationship centered, rather than socially determined.

[–]thatnomadsucks7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That women are just as human as we are. Sure they make everything hard to understand because of they way they communicate, but, when their guard comes down, they're way more like us than most guys would think. The problem is they put on a good show because they need to be wanted.

[–]Daniel3Lancer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That a lot of women who are in their prime would rather share one "Chad" or whatever then date your average Joe.

[–]BlindingTwilight 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

That women are paradoxical creatures, they are a riddle wrapped in an enigma. She wants the opposite of what she says sometimes. She wants you to stand up to her and to contain the worst of her emotional outbursts because she is a slave to them and she desperately seeks refuge and comfort. She wants you to treat her like an equal whilst subconsciously she needs you to be her leader. Fuck me, I could go on and on but this should get the ball rolling. Actually I may do my own post about this.

[–]69XxXCuckboyXxX691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ain't nobody got time for that.

[–]roguish_rogue0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Being liked and being attractive is not directly related, thats one of the biggest misunderstanding that causes guys grief imo.

[–]Archibald_Andino0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women hate being asked, "What type of work does your boyfriend do?" If the answer is something non-impressive.

[–]Bestprofilename0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would say their ability to turn defence I to attack by attacking a man when he has a valid criticism of her only for him to then focus on logically defending himself. They're also great at throwing in red herrings

[–]pnadlerlaw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

  • that just because you’re still continuing to date her, or in a relationship with her, or even married to her ... in a woman’s mind, she’s never really “secure” in the relationship or your love for her ... for men, we feel like, umm, we’re obviously still dating or in a relationship or married, so, everything is fine and there’s no problem (or else, well, we wouldn’t be dating or in a relationship or married) ... it’s not like that for women ... for women, it’s like being employed at a company she was dying to get a job at, and then being anxious each day as to whether she would be called into an office to have a talk about getting laid off or fired. Women need periodic reassurance that the relationship is still fine and that you still love her (even if in your mind, it’s OBVIOUS that the relationship is still fine and that you still love her).

  • when women say they want “security,” they don’t actually mean “financial” security, but “emotional” security. See first point. When a woman wants to feel safe and secure, she’s not talking about a bigger home, better car and more vacations. She’s not asking you to spend MORE time at work, but LESS time at work and more time with HER, so she can feel more secure in your emotional closeness and bond to each other.

  • women would rather spend the rest of their lives feeling incompetent and disrespected than unloved. A woman’s biggest source of anxiety and insecurity is not her looks, but rather, fearing that she is “unlovable” as evidenced by feeling “not loved” by her man. So, when you see men who “appear” or “look” as if they are being “disrespectful” to women or “treating their women badly” (and I don’t mean abuse or violence), there is a very good reason that woman is still with him ... because unlike other men, that man makes her feel “loved” and “lovable” and “worthy of love” as a woman ... which is way more important to women (if they had to chose between the two) than feeling competent or respected.

  • Lastly, the female brain and male brain 🧠 are physically very different in terms of their hard physical structures. In 88% of cases, you can tell a male and female brain apart simply by looking at an MRI scan of the brain. Female brains are smaller in size (but not “dumber,” it’s not “size” that matters) compared to a male brain. Female brains have a substantially larger amygdala and smaller pre-frontal cortex. Most importantly, female brains have substantially more white matter (neural connectivity) and substantially less grey matter (processing power) than the male brain.

This means a lot of different things right off the bat. It means, if you ever do an Escape the Room challenge, men should look to find individual clues, and women should manage the broader collection of clues and synthesizing them together. The size of the pre-frontal cortex would contradict this approach. But, the differences in white and grey matter are a strong indication for this approach. Why? More grey matter means that the male brain excels in focusing on ONE VERY NARROW AND SPECIFIC TASK. Phrased differently, the male brain is designed to focus and optimized for processing power with respect to one specific task. On the other hand, more white matter means the female brain excels in focusing on MULTIPLE ONGOING SITUATIONS AND THOUGHTS SIMULTANEOUSLY (at the same exact time, not sequentially). Phrased differently, the female brain works like a computer with multiple windows open and running, whereas the male brain is designed to run ONE resource-intensive application of maximum settings (like a graphics/physics heavy video game). When the “differences” work together and complement one another, the team can achieve way more than two men or two women working together as a team.

This also means that women don’t understand of believe men when men say they are thinking about “nothing.” Women cannot imagine a computer 🖥 with “zero” windows open, no pop-ups, the screensaver on, and nobody home. For men, this is a vacation from engaging grey matter. For women, this is nearly impossible. Unlike men, women find it difficult to just “close” or hit “X” on a window. The best they can do is “minimize” the window. But it’s still running in the background (along with 20+ other windows). Additionally, the female brain is hit with unwanted and uncontrollable “pop-ups.” Ever have a moment where you thought about something from 10+ years ago that made you feel like a horrible person, or upset at someone? Well, for women, that’s not a once a year experience. That’s a weekly or sometimes daily experience. And when it happens, they can’t just click “X” and “end process.”

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

That social interaction has value in itself to most women. They are not talking because they need something, they just like to talk. That real multitasking is easy for women.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Multitaskings only good if you're actually getting things done.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I said that it is easier. not that they are that good at it.

[–]DOSGAMESPaladin Ridding the Corruption-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We don’t understand all the covert contracts.

We don’t understand the how and why women form friendships or grudges with other women. We have vague ideas that women will socially broadcast their ‘bff’ or will be ‘catty’ to one another but are completely lost when it comes to what drives all these behaviors. We struggle to understand how women form or break peer groups.

I’ve legit had my Ex try to explain to me why she no longer talks to her previous ‘bestie’ and the conversation filled an entire 4 hour road trip. I still didn’t get it.

This lack of understanding spills over to relationships between men and women and is likely a source of conflict and miscommunication.

[–]CamoWoobie10000Women are SHIT-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That men are warriors and women are sorcerers.Their power is covert but dont believe for a second they cant fuck your day up. Theyre exactly like Saruman from LOTR. They can leverage an army of orcs against you if you challenge them.

Main female power moves (a lot of them tie together):

Passive agressive behavior

Shaming language

Group ostracization

Leveraging Hierarchies against you

Defamation of character

Pavlovian carrot and stick conditioning

Gaslighting

Some of it is subconscious some are consciously going to the point of concerted PsyOps and methodical mind games and using it as psychological torture. You think im being hyperbolic but im not. They know exactly what to say to cut someone deep, they know exactly how to emotionally scar someone. They are machiavellian sociopaths. Fucking harpies. Dont let your guard down for a second.

Not all, but too damn many.

[–]LivelyChartreusePurge Queen1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Charisma is their main spellcasting ability and they all collectively average around 26 Cha. Gotta have high enough wisdom to make those saving throws. Git gud scrub

[–]abaxeron✴️Indian Programmer-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Logn3r-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are nature's critics and deciders of the path of human evolution. This is perticularly true today due to birth control. I think the thing that puts off most women from TRP is their dogmatic view about the importance of resource acquisition and the focus on obscure theories and a strong rhetoric. I think one of the things that gets overlooked is the TRP advice about actually being sociable and being able to market yourself.

Walmart and apple are both huge, valuable corporations. However one is waaay more marketable than the other (sociability/marketibility vs focus on pure value).

Be like apple. Be desirable. Don't be a dick tho.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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