Q4W: Why shouldn't I be suspicious and mistrustful of women?

PPD-Angel · 2019-03-26T04:22:57+00:00

Someone is reporting child comments because the users are not women. in QuestionForX posts it is only a rule that X demographic are the only users allowed to answer the question in a top level comment, not the child comments.

KikiYuyu · 2019-03-26T01:27:49+00:00

You should be suspicious of people's motivations in general. Women are not uniquely capable of cruelty. The methods may be different but humans are capable of some nasty shit.

[deleted] · 2019-03-26T00:51:32+00:00

Don't trust anybody. Why should anybody here care what you do?

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-03-25T23:42:37+00:00

you should, who cares

meomeowmeoww · 2019-03-26T00:15:43+00:00

women HARDLY EVER show ANY kind of affection

because men will think she is hitting on him and wants to fuck his sad brains out.

i_have_a_semicolon · 2019-03-26T00:21:50+00:00

Women don't show affection for men they don't truly want.

"Women" as a whole aren't out for anything. Some women are and some women aren't. I can't attest to how many women like in either bucket but can attest to being one who is not. And, for that reason and a few others, I consider myself to be taken for good.

rainisthelife · 2019-03-26T01:59:37+00:00

Fact: most people, women included, are aight. If you’re getting consistently burned, it’s your fault.

Littleknownfacts · 2019-03-25T23:56:59+00:00

but if I miss a rave they'd whoop my ass. That kind of affection never comes from women.

Because the kind of affection that leads a woman to "beating your ass" is parental love. Women don't want to fuck any guy who's ass she has to whoop in order to set him straight.

So can I be sure women aren't out to use men and bleed them dry?

You shouldn't trust "women" in general. But if a particular woman demonstrates to you over time that she is trust worthy, I don't understand why you wouldn't.

[deleted] · 2019-03-26T01:35:08+00:00

Women are people who do human people things, subject to the cultural influences that define and prescribe womanhood. Like most people, women are capable of change and growth or stagnation. Most people are capable of profound love and profound cruelty. The way people express these qualities is influenced by their gender, and so is your ability to perceive these qualities in others.

Why should you trust anyone as a general rule? Take it case by case. Some people are worth trusting, some people aren't. As a man, socialized to certain expectations and behaviors, it may be harder for you to understand why women do the things they do, and vice versa. You may prefer not to try, and it sounds like that may be the case. Not trying means that you'll miss out on opportunities and likely confirm your own beliefs, and perhaps you're down with that.

Young_Oryx · 2019-03-26T00:52:18+00:00

Why shouldn't I be suspicious and mistrustful of women?

Please do! I would like it if men who are suspicious that women are all man-bleeding harpies stayed away from them.

[deleted] · 2019-03-26T00:05:12+00:00

Because that sounds like a really shitty and depressing way to live life to me. But eh. Gotta do what you gotta do.

yasee · 2019-03-26T03:22:03+00:00

because that is a self-fulfilling attitude

but really, do what you like. there is no skin off my nose

Regal_Newt · 2019-03-26T03:16:26+00:00

Women aren't affectionate towards you most likely because they don't trust you, they're worried that any affection they show you will be interpreted as hitting on you, and your reaction when that is not the case.

Be honest with yourself. If a woman showed you affection, would you take it as a move on you, and how would you react if she said no? If you would, and you'd be upset- there's your answer. If not, it might have everything to do with experiences they've had with other men, but my bets are on that it has everything to do with you.

You say that you have lots of friends with shitty and potentially dangerous ideas about women. Who you surrounded yourself with speaks a lot about who you are as a person. You also interpret media about the wrong doing of other men as a personal attack on you, which leads me to wonder what you're doing.

People pick up on these things. It's probably more of an issue with yourself than you think, especially if there are many women who don't show you affection.

Women are plenty affectionate. Much more so than men in both my experience and that of everyone else I've discuss the topic with.

ThisIsJustATr1bute · 2019-03-26T01:38:55+00:00

You should never trust new people right away, they should prove over time they are trustworthy. Why would I be upset that an internet stranger doesn’t blindly assume every woman is a good person?

Electra_Cute · 2019-03-25T23:58:59+00:00

Go right ahead and do that.

azngirl7689 · 2019-03-26T00:44:05+00:00

So live like that if you want, it’s your loss. Bye Felicia.

Planetof12 · 2019-03-26T16:53:05+00:00

(F) Damn your life sounds really depressing... Literally no woman in your life has ever showed you affection??

But for real, my mom severely abused me for years and I use to hate women and think they were all manipulative. I avoided having female friendships.

I was also raped and abused by an ex, as well as minor sexual assault and an almost kidnapping, I was terrfied of men.

My suggestion and opinion is both of these experiences lead to illogical feelings based on fear, I suggest getting psychological help if you truly think all men or all women are awful.

Willow-girl · 2019-03-26T03:23:06+00:00

So can I be sure women aren't out to use men and bleed them dry?

Use them for what?

Most men are actually not that useful. LOL

TheSuperStink · 2019-03-26T00:07:33+00:00

Do whatever you want. If you're crappy life, not mine.

321PK · 2019-03-26T00:09:55+00:00

Srsly?? Stop whining. It’s embarrassing.

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TheScamr · 2019-03-26T01:54:14+00:00

Review Lawrence Kohlberg's Theory of Moral Development, it is on wikipedia and a lot is availible for free on Google Books and Scholar.

There are stages of Moral Development. Women genereally top out at level 3 (caring about relationships) , and only about 20% of all people get to level 4 (law and order applies to everyone equally), and almost none of them are women, so about 40% of men get to level 4.

People enter level three as a teenager. So most adult women have the moral reasoning of a jr high school student. You cannnot trust them due to their fickleness. Sure, they may have a decent amount of verbal skills and use higher levels of morality to justify your position but you will note they never use moral theory to restrain their own behavior, only mental gymnastics/hamstring their initial libertine position.

hoere_des_heeren · 2019-03-26T10:53:32+00:00

Every human being should be mistrustful of every other human being. Homo homini lupus est.

frustrationlvl100 · 2019-03-26T15:38:48+00:00

If your female friends are the ones you’re opening up to about depression, they might just not bring up you missing something because they feel it’s related to depression and not want to pressure you. In other words, they could be expressing love in very different ways.

Myshkinia · 2019-03-26T22:18:34+00:00

You just need to get good at judging character. There are just some awful people out there, and it’s in their best interest to come off as nice and sweet and normal, but look for what they value, their emotional responses to things that don’t impact them, but strangers. You need to find someone who cares about everyone, not just their friends and family and the people they want to sleep with.

rainisthelife · 2019-03-26T08:19:42+00:00

Dudes coming in here with the same old tired tirade of “sell me on women” is getting old and annoying. Esp because most of the time they’re confirmation biases are typically too strong to convince them of anything else.

If you prefer not to trust women, then don’t trust them. Women don’t care. No one cares. Every man is free to do whatever he wants to do and remain lonely, jaded and bitter. Your prerogative and not our problem.

JezebeltheQueen5656 · 2019-03-26T14:21:27+00:00

ofc we dont care about our oppressors. we aint dumb.

dont care about males' need and wants, never will, even if it were my own brother. fck y'all.

ilptrandom · 2019-03-26T16:57:12+00:00

If you think the benefits of never trusting are worth forgoing the potential benefits that accrue from two intimates trusting each other, then fine, don't trust. There's people all over the world who don't trust the other gender or who trust only with great caution. It is a thing. You tend to get hurt a lot less in several very specific ways if you don't trust.

That said, the potential benefits are huge. Two fully intimate human beings operating from a basis of trust and centering their efforts around creating a household and wealth make a formidable team. We filled the earth with our species over a very large climatic range before we even invented metallurgy, and that we could do so is partly because of this dynamic. But y'know, we're rich now, the resources flow like water, you aren't a Bronze Age farmer trying to grow enough oats and fatten the pig and cows enough to put aside enough calories to keep 7 kids alive and healthy over winter, you can probably afford to forgo relationships or have relationships that are not based upon trust.

Sophiatab · 2019-03-26T17:22:39+00:00

Treat women with respect and we will treat you with respect. Try to exploit women, and we will bleed you like a fatted calf giggling as you hiccup your last breath.

lameasstrick11 · 2019-03-27T02:14:10+00:00

Honestly, the problem is generalizing women. Not everyone from the same gender has a hive-mind. I'm a woman and I think girls who complain about getting hit on are entitled snobs (as if getting positive attention is a bad thing). I think the problem with a lot of millennial women is that they are using the internet as a platform to say what they feel about certain experiences, and most of the time, it makes them sound really pretentious and rude.

If I was a straight man or a lesbian, I would try to meet a girl who wasn't consumed by social media and being a sheep. I'd want her to not be a hypocrite, and have a life beyond complaining about how guys want to fuck her. It's really the hypocrisy and arrogance of many women today that are freaking people out. I'm not here to defend my gender, but I will say, not everyone is exactly the same in their beliefs and ideologies.

Bekiala · 2019-03-27T03:42:42+00:00

I'm not sure you are reading responses anymore Mr. Planet but here is my two cents.

There is probably a healthy level of suspicion and mistrust that anyone should have for others. What that is for yourself, you will have to work out over your lifetime. If you are heterosexual and looking to get into a LTR, it is a good idea to be wary. This can make or break your life . . . well getting someone pregnant can do the same thing . . . so yeah . . .definitely proceed with caution. Coparenting with an asshole is not fun no matter what the asshole's gender.

I tend to trust people to do their absolute best and firmly believe that for most of us, that "best" is pretty crappy at any given moment. Even someone who has been an important part of your life for years can get addicted to drugs, develop a mental illness or go through something that transforms them in a way in which they will no longer be available as a friend.

As far as affection, I don't quite know what you are wanting or expecting. Hugs? Kindness? I do remember how hard it was as a young women with this sort of thing. Too often positive attention I gave to young men was interpreted as sexual so I tried to stay a bit aloof. I have to say "hitting the wall" has been a joy . . . well not that we called it that back in the day.

Anyhow hope I don't come across as too pedantic here. Sounds like you have a good group of friends.

LittleMissAfrodite · 2019-03-26T14:33:09+00:00

You shouldn't trust anyone who hasn't earned your trust. Like many have said, women are human. Humans are capable of great good and great evil. Trust only those who have shown themselves to be trustworthy, man or woman.

If you are mgtow a more prudent question may be why should you trust a woman to be a good wife but that is a different conversation.

Angelofthemorning12 · 2019-03-25T23:50:34+00:00

Because many of us make more than most men ever will and you can't get blood from a turnip?