CMV Women are more shallow than men now a days.

shonenhikada · 2019-01-26T08:47:17+00:00

Well in a UK study when they were looking at the dating patterns and preference of men and women, they found that women were in fact putting more priority over physical attribute than personality. While men placed more emphasis on personality over physical attribute.

Littleknownfacts · 2019-01-26T04:10:09+00:00

All you've done is demonstrate that women are shallow. You haven't given any evidence that they are more shallow than except to say that men will fuck women they are unattracted to. Which laaaadeee-fucking-da... Plenty of women will go out for a free dinner with a man they aren't attracted to, same deal.

beachredwhine · 2019-01-26T04:10:44+00:00

Women literally disqualify hundreds and thousands of men because their legs aren't long enough.

If a guy says he only dates girls with big tits, he's labelled shallow. It's a bit frustrating for me because I always hear how men are so shallow, women are not visual, confidence and personality is more important to women. That's all BS.

I don't think women are more shallow. I think women's shallowness is more socially acceptable ("it's just a preference"), whereas men's shallowness is identified more frequently as shallowness or even misogyny ("you monster!")

OfSpock · 2019-01-26T04:10:28+00:00

I think height is unfortunately a primal thing for most women and the brain sees it as one of the most important indicators for whether or not the guy can protect them.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-01-26T15:09:09+00:00

Literally nothing is less shallow than looks. Thats the genes youll be passing along to you children

Moldy_Gecko · 2019-01-26T08:51:06+00:00

I have a Mexican friend that's significantly shorter than me. The dude is jacked though. Near perfect body, because he dedicates himself to it. While sure, I don't have to dedicate as much to get the same amount of sex that he does, he's consistently banging hot girls. Stop making excuses for yourself and claim this is a CMV when really it's just a rant. Girls are more shallow, I believe that, but that's because they can afford to be, it's 101 of the sidebar. Fat and ugly chicks have all the power with social apps and shit nowadays. However, apps like that are also more helpful to shorter guys, as long as they have good bodies. So, work on yourself and you too can bang loads of hot chicks.

goatismycopilot · 2019-01-26T13:32:41+00:00

Of course it seems like women are more shallow to the OP if somebody does not have an attribute that somebody else voices a preference for they get called shallow that is just ego protectant. People are shallow always have been, always will be. Because I am short myself, I would date another short dude but I do not like beards or gingers or some other stuff.

EpikYummeh · 2019-01-26T05:33:00+00:00

If you disqualify a man because he's 5'7 instead of 6'2, you are shallow.

But if you're not attracted to guys that are shorter, what can you do? Saying it's shallow doesn't really achieve anything but make them feel guilty for having a preference.

If it's not attractive then it's not attractive.

Same goes for fat girls. It's not attractive when compared to girls who are slimmer, no amount of shaming would change that.

Also, "nowadays" suggests it has been different before which I highly doubt. Tall suggests strength, it seems likely to be an in built attractive quality.

What might be different now is choices are expanded. I'll give.you that this has its downsides and is making people more shallow. But again, noticing that neednt make people feel guilty as it's at a fundamental level.

Ultramegasaurus · 2019-01-26T08:20:38+00:00

They are. They judge men very harshly for things outside their control like height, balding, penis size, bone structure and even voice tone. And there is significantly less variation for the male ideal than for the female one. Also, women are more likely to demand men to surpass them in both looks- and status-related aspects.

wracky272 · 2019-01-26T13:43:51+00:00

Any sort of "standards" or shallowness a guy has are completely outweighed by his desperation. He's still a shallow individual, he's just willing to stuff that down to get his dick wet. Something that women, understandably, are less willing to do. They run the risk of having to abort this loser's baby, and/or develop a whore's reputation. What is a guy risking? An STD? Jokes about sport-hunting with the boys? There's not an equivalence here.

killallthenarcs · 2019-01-26T15:47:46+00:00

Women literally disqualify hundreds and thousands of men because their legs aren't long enough.

If an attractive young woman is to be monogamous, she'd going to have to disqualify millions of men in the world who lack egregious faults and would gladly have her. I mean quite literally she does not have time to sensible screen them all at the rate they present themselves to her... much less screen them all and occasionally take a bit of time off and just enjoy being single. Would it be less shallow to use a random number generator to work out who of the available millions to disqualify? Or would it be less shallow to fuck a hundred million men?

Pope_Lucious · 2019-01-26T17:39:36+00:00

Nah dude. Ugly women can’t get shit.

equanimous_samsara · 2019-01-26T04:54:22+00:00

Why does everything uncomfortable about women have to be framed almost like a personal grievance?

Yes women are primally attracted to taller men. This is not good news for them. Even worse, it's not something they can consciously change.

Think of it this way: in the US men taller than 6' is around 20% of the population. About half of them are ugly/weird looking, that leaves a majority of women who like tall men vying hard for 10% of men. Of those 10%, assuming they're all available, a good number of them are losers, a good number of them are drowning in so much pussy that they will drive the women mad trying to lock them down and a fraction of them will succeed. It's like winning the lottery! Forget about yourself for a second, and realize how much this would suck! To me it sounds almost as bad as being a guy.

When you give up the naive wish that women were different, you can laugh at the mindfuck of reality! Suffering is a shared human experience, but also a relative one, and given the huge differences between men and women makes it difficult for anyone to empathize with anyone else. It's like one big magic trick, we're having the wool pulled over our eyes!

I'm not really a theist, but it's really something that makes me think. There's something about the overall human condition that seems to interlock just perfectly -- almost as if by design.

DXBrigade · 2019-01-26T08:14:26+00:00

Plenty of short men date.

blackedoutfast · 2019-01-26T04:42:36+00:00

women who discriminate against short men aren't shallow because short men are objectively inferior.

as you admit, women are less attracted to short men. if a woman has sex with a manlet, she runs the risk of having short sons, who will also be generally unattractive to women and won't be as reproductively successful as taller men. see the "sexy sons" hypothesis. it's simply a more efficient reproductive strategy for women to avoid short men and only have sex with tall, attractive men. it's not shallow at all for women to avoid having sex with short men, it's actually a very wise reproductive strategy.

this does NOT apply for flat chested women in the same way. like you admit, men will happily have sex with flat chested women. men who prefer large breasted women are focused on a meaningless superficial trait, which is why they are shallow.

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SabirahNova · 2019-01-26T10:52:47+00:00

I mean I think its hard wired for most women. Are they expected to date men they aren’t enthusiastically attracted too just because they’re nice or successful? I think that’s how you end up with one sided relationships where the man is nagged to death and has to beg for duty sex.

Nu_Guy · 2019-01-26T14:11:34+00:00

I would argue women are equally as shallow as men.

On average:

A girl would choose a wealthy tall man who has cheated on partners before, and gives the impression that she is disposable, over a guy she knows will be there for her and has proven he is genuine, but is less exciting. Even if he is handsome.

A guy would choose a hot dumb girl with minimal potential if she is available drama free over a girl with good people skills, career potential and compatibility if she is ugly.

meomeowmeoww · 2019-01-26T05:28:03+00:00

have you tried growing up?

Hawanja · 2019-01-26T16:42:11+00:00

You know, if being short was really your problem, then do something about it. Save up, and get the surgery to extend your limbs a few inches.

If you were to do this, somehow I don't think it'll solve your problem. Because the reason you can't get laid isn't because of your height. It's your attitude. You know what turns women off? Whiners and complainers.

p3n3lop3 · 2019-01-26T17:21:28+00:00

You're shallow for not wanting your future sons to suffer from shortness??

beachredwhine · 2019-01-26T04:16:15+00:00

It's not just the length of their legs. Taller guys are more successful, taller guys are smarter, they have bigger IQs, they can pack on more weight and remain healthy and fit, they can reach the top shelf at the grocery store, and they spend way less time feeling sorry for themeselves and complaining about women.

MeetTheShadow · 2019-01-26T09:37:35+00:00

Nonsense. Men do things like that all the time. So do women. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

LUClEN · 2019-01-26T12:35:15+00:00

Idk fam. I just did my regular r/tinder scroll through and girls still like witty, funny dudes.

I mean rules 1 and 2 are real, but uggos with good jokes still get dates

lbspredh · 2019-01-26T15:39:21+00:00

x can't be more subjective value than y, it doesn't work like that

[deleted] · 2019-01-26T17:18:05+00:00

If we’re talking casual sex 100% yeah. But if we’re talking relationships it can depend.

[deleted] · 2019-01-26T07:50:33+00:00

I think only because they're socially allowed to be with zero repercussion.

Zippo-Cat · 2019-01-26T06:25:54+00:00

Shallow

Yeah, can we not use dumbshit feminist buzzwords, thanks.

SavingMasculinity · 2019-01-27T03:25:16+00:00

Women like to appear more shallow than they actually are. Tinder is the worst of it. At 5'10, I am not complaining. If being slightly below 6 foot was ever an issue, I would ignore it and treat it as a shit test and move on. I banged a chick a couple months ago from Hinge who thought I would be taller. I held frame, explained that I am normal height for a guy, and proceeded to fuck her 2 or 3 times.

Women shit test. They care more about your confidence than anything else.

beachredwhine · 2019-01-26T05:15:06+00:00

Something people need to understand is that all women are gold diggers. Every last one of them.

Contrary to what these insane incel types think women are not attracted to men based on their appearance. Women do not judge the opposite sex based on aesthetics. "Chad" does not exist. Most women find the male body ugly and find penises to be revolting and disgusting. They would rather look at a female body any day of the week. Going along with this is the fact that women don't really any true sexual desire for men. They only use sex either as a tool to acquire what they want from men ($$$) or something they begrudgingly accept to maintain a relationship with a man.

Women have no sexual or physical desire for men. Sex is simply their way of either using or thanking a man for providing something in return. Nothing is more attractive or beautiful to a woman than $. Men need to understand this and realize women have no love or lust for them.

All women are prostitutes. If all men were wiped off the face of the Earth women who be more than happy so long as they had resources. Simply for their bodies they have men worshipping the ground they walk on and willing to do almost everything for them all because of the allure that nature cursed the male sex with. Meanwhile a women desires nothing from a man save $, status and utility. It is purely a business transaction on her part devoid of anything men would consider lust.

If women were not getting paid they would never have sex with men. This is why they get so mad when men give them one night stands because they give up their vagina, the holiest thing they have and the source of male worship, and grudge through an act they largely despise only to fail to acquire the true object of their "lust," (the man's wallet.) It is rank blasphemy to the female to have to suffer through sex with an ugly disgusting man and get nothing in return.