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[–]lucky_beast26 points27 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Without the mods to save them all the bloops are getting absolutely savaged everywhere here. It says just about everything in the terp/bloop fight. Bloops need mommy mod to come same them for it to be a fair fight.

The absolute desperation in bloop defense and deflection is great. What other position could you be in though when you're trying to deny reality, facts, evidence, and truth at every turn with no one to block them for you.

[–]MoodyBrizo 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

The funniest thing about this is that bloops shitpost like its purge week with impunity all the time with no repercussions from the mods.

[–]lucky_beast1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is the best part about it. You have shitbag mods like /u/Littleknownfacts who can't even pretend to be impartial in their moderating who allow bloops to post like this all the time. Then the very moment terps respond they just remove the comment but leave the bloop rule breaking comment up. It's pretty pathetic.

Then within moments of terps enjoying the same privilege bloops are getting humiliated and blown the fuck out.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep :)

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

I honestly would be more celebratory, if return of kings wasn't shut down, TRP subreddit wasn't quarantined & our president wasn't voluntarily explaining on national news how dangerous of a moment it is for young men.

[–]NalkaNalkayou call it virtue, I call it cowardice1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

What happened to RoK?

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Go to Roosh's YouTube channel. They finally wore him down with the "digital sanctions" on his website so he announced a hiatus because the traffic/profits are spiraling downward.

[–]Zippo-Cat-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Uh... am I supposed to feel bad because a charlatan who was only doing it all for the money got BTFO'd?

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, right. A dude who was constantly attacked, put his image at risk & was making virtually no money was in it for money. If he was he would've stayed a STEM-lord.

[–]lucky_beast-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

RoK sucks, the TRP sub mostly sucks, and it is a dangerous moment for young men right now.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't care about the quality of the forums. It's mostly about the systematic dismantling of any of the opposition of the mainstream narrative.

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[–]belletaco14 points15 points  (132 children) | Copy Link

I can question a lot of these, but will specifically choose, "Favored in healthcare."

How? I thought studies actually supported young women were taken least seriously by general doctors.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here45 points46 points  (39 children) | Copy Link

How?

The majority of healthcare dollars go to women.

Overall, female spending reached $1.3 trillion in 2012 and accounted for nearly 56 percent of total personal health care (PHC) spending (females accounted for just over 50 percent of the population). Male spending totaled over $1.0 trillion and accounted for the remaining 44 percent.

Per capita health spending for females was $8,315 in 2012, approximately 23 percent more than for males, $6,788.

Because Medicare and Medicaid benefits will favor whoever spends the most, women will be favored.

Furthermore,

A SPECTACULAR gender gap has resulted in men’s health problems being allocated a quarter of the funding women’s health research gets, ranked just ahead of parasitic infections. This is even though men die four and a half years earlier than women, and are 60 per cent more likely to die from cancer. It is one reason there is still no reliable test to detect aggressive forms of prostate cancer, a bigger killer than breast cancer. Men’s health ranked 36th for federal government health research funding in 2012, behind sexually transmitted infections and just ahead of parasitic infections, an exclusive analysis by News Corp Australia shows.

https://prostate.org.nz/2014/01/men-die-earlier-womens-health-gets-four-times-funding/

I don't think a reasonable person can deny that women are favored over men in healthcare.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

+1

[–]mistercheeez-o____O-1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It is one reason there is still no reliable test to detect aggressive forms of prostate cancer

I knew I was right to be skeptical about these so called "prostate exams". Ain't nothing goin in my butt!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Butt...

You may like it ;)

[–]Jex1170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Google: "reddit + prostate + drum stick"

You won't regret it.

[–]mistercheeez-o____O-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Add butt to butt

You make...

buttbutt

AKA: the funniest combination of words possible in this earthly existence. (IMHO)

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer7 points8 points  (30 children) | Copy Link

Per capita health spending for females was $8,315 in 2012, approximately 23 percent more than for males, $6,788.

Are you aware of this little thing called "pregnancy" that ordinarily doesn't happen to men?

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here15 points16 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

I know WHY and HOW women are favored. u/bellataco is the one who asked how women are favored, not me. It's matter of fact. It is what it is.

[–]apube6 points7 points  (28 children) | Copy Link

Extra spending due to pregnancy helps everyone; that's not a fair metric at all and you know it. You've got to break down spending more to see if this is the case. The breast cancer v prostate cancer is a good example, but not per capita spending in general.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here19 points20 points  (27 children) | Copy Link

You people are exhausting lol

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1361028/

Per capita lifetime expenditure is $316,600, a third higher for females ($361,200) than males ($268,700). Two-fifths of this difference owes to women's longer life expectancy. Nearly one-third of lifetime expenditures is incurred during middle age, and nearly half during the senior years. For survivors to age 85, more than one-third of their lifetime expenditures will accrue in their remaining years.

The higher costs are not all due to pregnancy. It's mostly their longer life expectancy. Men subsidize the literal lives of women. Healthcare favors women. It is what it is.

[–]apube2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Sorry for pestering you into a solid argument 🙄

It's mostly their longer life expectancy.

That accounts for 2/5 difference

So, more healthcare spending is spent on women, but this is unlikely due to sex based discrimination. If you're a man who doesn't engage in unhealthy behaviors like drinking, smoking etc that lead to shorter life expectancy, you're not barred from the benefits that women receives so i's not so much healthcare favoring women. Men aren't getting cut off in healthcare, but life. The problem isn't healthcare, but the factors that drive men to these unhealthy behaviors and to not seek care as frequently, which is certainly a problem but a different one entirely.

Healthcare spending is only one aspect of healthcare, albeit likely the most important. Men and women face different problems when it comes to quality of care, research, etc. that further complicate this debate. Wowmn also spend more out of pocket for healthcare, but I doubt this touches what their insurers cover

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s matter of fact. Female bodies are just more complex and costly. They also live longer. Assuming equivalent health, women’s healthcare would stilll be more expensive.

You cannot seriously present the opinion that men and women have evolved over thousands of years to where they would both have equivalent health care costs (all other things being equal).

Men subsidize the healthcare of women. It is what it is.

[–]apube0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You cannot seriously present the opinion that men and women have evolved over thousands of years to where they would both have equivalent health care costs (all other things being equal).

I have no idea, there's probably some difference, but we don't live in a world where men and women make the same choices in regards to Health. There are hosts of social factors that contribute to the lower life expectancy, risk taking, suicide, heart disease, not giving a fuck about taking care of yourself when your wife dies because you don't have any other friends, etc. etc. Undoubtedly costs would be closer without this

Men subsidize the healthcare of women.

I mean I guess? This is such a strange way of looking at it though. It's a bit disingenuous - women subsidize men's care as well, but men in general use less. Do women subsidize men's smoking and drinking habits then? I wouldn't say so. Also, they subsidize the women who live long as hell, but not all of them. The young pay for the old, the healthy pay for the sick. As a 24 year old woman with no kids, 60 yo Jerry who smokes a pack a day isn't helping keeping my premiums low. Again, this isn't gender based, but age based.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s matter of fact. It’s not a strange way of looking at it at all. Men subsidize the healthcare costs of women.

And yes, the healthy also subsidize the sick as well.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

but this is unlikely due to sex based discrimination

It's a good thing that nobody was arguing this strawman, err...point, because they would look kind of foolish right now.

[–]apube1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pay attention to the context of my post. The op is clearly implying that women have "better healthcare" because they are women, MrSmoogs is supporting that with his healthcare expenditure data. Pointing out this is not in fact due to sex discrimination, and aside from pregnancy, men would presumably receive a more similar amount of insurance money is pertinent

[–]Jex1170 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So, more healthcare spending is spent on women, but this is unlikely due to sex based discrimination.

But that's how things work according to feminism. Fewer female CEOs than male CEOs? Has to be gender discrimination. Lower average income among women than among men? Gender discrimination. Less women going into STEM field than men? Gender discrimination.

[–]apube1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists would likely say that those are largely due to the social conditioning too. I agree that this would also be part of the problem with healthcare costs. Like I already mentioned and gave examples of, men dying sooner is at least partially due to social/cultural factors. I acknowledge that, but this is not because of discrimination in healthcare as an institution specifically, which is the subject of this debate.

But yes, feminists, or at least I would argue that this is an example of male socialization harming men, as female socialization often hinders women.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Men subsidize the literal lives of women.

TIL women don't work.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Women have a lifetime net negative tax burden. They "work", but they don't really work. They earn less than they spend, and they pay less in taxes than they get back in benefits. Who do you think makes up the difference? Who subsidizes the literal lives of women? I know you know this one. There's only one other real gender to choose from.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

That's a whole lot of bullshit. But again every time RPers tout this they never can back it up.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

The proof is out there; I just don't feel like finding it for you. Bloops can never refute anything I said, so they just say it's bullshit and pretend they accomplished something. Much like the entire Red Pill. It's true, and you don't like that it's true, but you got nothin'.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The government subsidizes small farms. That doesn’t mean small farmers don’t work.

Do you understand the meaning of that term? Clearly you don’t.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I dom but clearly you think its one way.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

What? The healthy also subsidize the sick. It’s how our healthcare system works.

[–]toronto87 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women as a group are net recipients of government program spending over hte course of their lives, massively so. Men are the net payors.

You can argue about some of the extra money being for pregnancy and child rearing - which it is - but all that's really saying is the state is forcibly cucking millions of men to pay for other mens children.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women as a group are net recipients of government program spending over hte course of their lives, massively so. Men are the net payors.

Nope. But again there's nothing that proves this.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The majority of healthcare dollars go to women.

You do realize women use more healthcare services right?

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

More derives = more dollars.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. And women visit doctors more overall.

[–]Popeman79Red Pill Man13 points14 points  (39 children) | Copy Link

One example: Men are more prone to getting prostate cancer than women getting breast cancer. Yet there is plenty of campaigns and raising awareness for breast cancer, because women, and almost nothing for prostate cancer.

[–]crumblesnatch 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Prostate cancer has a whole month now, yay.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Its never really put in the spotlight though.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't want my prostate in the spotlight. I don't need brown ribbons everywhere, either.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cope

[–]shoup88Report me bitch3 points4 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Movember is really big.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy Link

No one outside of gender focus areas of the internet even know what that is.

[–]shoup88Report me bitch2 points3 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think so. My parents know it, and ally incredibly normie partner does it with his whole office every year. Our football team has an event.

I’d say it’s already peaked in the mainstream.

[–]Jex1170 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

https://ca.movember.com/about/money

Movember raised about $11 million for "men's health projects" (seen here - they don't give much specifics other than focusing on mental health and prostate cancer) - which isn't much when you consider we spend a few hundred million on breast cancer research each year.

[–]shoup88Report me bitch1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

The person I responded to said there’s “almost nothing” for prostate cancer.

This is demonstrably false.

[–]Jex1171 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

When you're talking about funding medicinal research, $11 million really is almost nothing.

[–]shoup88Report me bitch1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you heard of Movember?

Have the people around you heard of Movember?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

How is that demonstrates false when all you given me was anecdotal evidence?

[–]shoup88Report me bitch0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

At the peak of Movember's popularity in 2012

Need to say more? Plus only 55,000 people took part. Not exactly something I say mainstream.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

If it was mainstream CNN and what have you would be covering it. Sure heck don't see anything like that for the past several years. Hell I only learned about it from the /r/MensRights sub couple years back.

[–]shoup88Report me bitch0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

CNN has covered it multiple times

You must live under a rock. It peaked several years ago but it’s been around for over 10.

Of course if you never leave Reddit, it makes sense that reddit is the only place you’ve heard of it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

CNN has covered it multiple times

So one article counts as several? Its great CNN made a side article for it (I don't personally read CNN for obvious reasons), but if it was mainstream it would be ranking in far more money than its been.

[–]shoup88Report me bitch0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Okay so this is a little advanced but I’ll try and walk you through what I did. First I googled CNN. Then I clicked on the first link. After that I was able to find a search bar in the top right corner. Are you still with me? From there, I typed in the word “Movember”. Okay so this part is really tricky. Your device will likely try to autocorrect to November - do not search for November! It has to be Movember for this to work. Once you’ve entered the correct term, click enter. This will bring you to a page that lists the multiple articles CNN has on the topic. Please let me know if these instructions were too difficult. I’m kind of a computer whiz, sometimes I forget what it’s like for a layman.

Once you’ve found the articles, please let me know what new goal post you’ve now established as a marker for mainstream awareness since you’ve changed your tune between comments.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your device will likely try to autocorrect to November

Not when you use chrome and that Google search.

I’m kind of a computer whiz, sometimes I forget what it’s like for a layman.

What ever you say Gates.

[–]goatismycopilotJohnI'monlydancing4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of men don't even go for their annual check up, so if you want to start a campaign for prostate cancer awareness just do a PSA telling men "Go to the fucking doctor once a year".

[–]belletaco6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

breast cancer effects women (and men, just so you know) of all ages whereas fatality rates for prostate cancer are at about <5% for men under the age of 70. do the lives of men over the age of 70 count less? no, but people tend to donate their money and time to causes that effect them personally and breast cancer effects more people that are willing to put effort into the eradication of it. the fact of the matter is, more men die with prostate cancer in them than die because of it.

september is prostate cancer awareness month and there are plenty of marathons and charities you can donate to in its honor if you feel so inclined.

[–]ConnorGracieWhy Don't You Just Date Hypothetical Girl Who Doesn't Exist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

False they do it because they're taught women are more valuable.

[–]planejaneRemove head from sphincter, THEN type.5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Actually I can answer this one.

The vast majority of prostate cancer cases are benign. They cause some deterioration in quality of life which is why some patients choose to have it removed, but a diagnoses is almost never a death sentence, rather a progressive annoyance that many men never seek or medically require treatment for.

Breast cancer, on the other hand, is more often than not very aggressive and runs a much higher risk of metastasizing-infecting other parts of the body. Treatment options are as expected usually drastic, painful, and life-changing.

/u/goatismycopilot and /u/cxj are both nurses, I know goat works in oncology and can back me up, but medically there's a very important distinction, so much so that it's been said "Men die WITH prostate cancer. Women die OF breast cancer." The two are only comparable at the most basic levels.

[–]goatismycopilotJohnI'monlydancing5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Prostate cancers are more likely to be localized and localized cancers of any type tend to have a better remission and five year survival rate. So if you are initially diagnosed with a cancer that is local with no other regional involvement and no mets (spread ) to other areas you are going to do better. The it depends on where it has spread to, genetic markers, initial response to treatment and a bunch of other factors. I am not super knowledgable about prostate cancer itself. I know more about leukemias, lymphomas, blood disorder type of cancers, some solid tumors because those are the common ones in the pediatric populations.

[–]planejaneRemove head from sphincter, THEN type.2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ah, sorry to rope you in, then, I somehow missed that you worked with peds!

Also, you're a better person than me. Back when I was beating my head in trying to balance nursing school and a full time job, the one thing I knew is that I couldn't do kids or OB cause I did NOT want to deal with parents.

Edit: also you touched on a good point. I was really interested for a while on the immune-wall that exists on the testicles and in the eyes. I can't remember if the prostate is included, but they're one of only a few places in the body that have entirely separate immune systems, even more distinct than the blood-brain barrier.

[–]goatismycopilotJohnI'monlydancing2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah I did not mind. I think maybe I am just crazier than you not better. I actually said I would NEVER work with very sick children's. Because of the parents and I am kinda meh on babies. I like cute babies to snuggle for a minute and then I am good. I do best with beings who have some kinda verbal.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Omg pediatric oncology I can’t handle it 😭

hold me u/hyperrreal

[–]goatismycopilotJohnI'monlydancing0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Me pet your head whacked ICU man.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Is it like on South Park where you can put your balls in the microwave and they get huge so you can bounce around on them while you smoke medical weed?

[–]planejaneRemove head from sphincter, THEN type.0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you should test it and come back to us with your results! 😂😂😂

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I shall take this as medical advice brb.

[–]Wandos7naproxen sodium0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Breast cancer awareness is more visible thanks to the scam that is the Susan B Komen foundation, who gives only 20% of funds to actual breast cancer research. Tell your mom to get a mammogram by calling her on the phone, not by buying a bunch of pink shit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

+1

[–]I-IV-I64-V-IAsexual/Aromantic0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think a major reason for that is that women can get regularly checked for breast cancer. Screening isn't necessarily uncomfortable and catches more than prostate screening.

Prostate cancer is harder to reliably check for, and the current testing methods suck.

[–]Jex1170 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Prostate cancer is harder to reliably check for, and the current testing methods suck.

Specifically because the research funding isn't there.

[–]I-IV-I64-V-IAsexual/Aromantic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's more to due with anatomy than funding. Breasts are on the outside and the whole organ is touchable and can be pretty cleanly scanned or x-rayed. One can easily check their own breasts for abnormalities.

Prostates are on the inside, cannot be felt entirely (and even at that it's apparently very easy to miss tumors).

Both cancers have blood tests that more or less catch stuff and miss stuff.

Breast cancer gets a lot of money, but much of that goes into advertising. (Consider how much these charities spend on awareness and salaries vs funding research.) And it gets money because it affects younger women, like women in their 40s and 50s, verses older men in their 60s and 70s.

[–]InformalCriticismProbably Red5 points6 points  (26 children) | Copy Link

Women are subsidized by men in standard healthcare plans. If you get full coverage as a man, and you get pregnant, it would be covered... Men are paying for coverage they biologically cannot use.

[–]belletaco4 points5 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

Isn't viagra covered under standard health plans?

[–]InformalCriticismProbably Red2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Mmm, probably? I know it was a criticized stat in the armed forces at one time. I've neither had a substandard health plan, nor have I known anyone to be on viagra. I have, however, seen shitloads of pregnant women.

[–]belletaco1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

did they get pregnant from god? or from a man

[–]Texastentialism#1 gimpgirl stan4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And did they exclusively give birth to female babies?

[–]belletaco3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i wish

[–]InformalCriticismProbably Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whomever pays the most in child support, obviously.

[–]Jex1170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So is cocaine and fentanol.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Viagra is OTC in the UK. Walk into any pharmacy and they'll sell ya some.

Here I have two in left in a blister pack keep them for emergencies like if I took too many drugs and can't get it up so of course what I do is take more drugs to fix the problem.

Always have drugs on hand when you're taking drugs because drugs are dangerous.

[–]belletaco1 point2 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

do you get a ping anytime someone mentions the name of any drug?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Shh don't give away my secrets.

That is the irony though I usually (not always) only engage in drug related discussions when other people bring up drugs first.

[–]belletaco0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy Link

you got a xanax hook up in london? i'll be there next month and i need some for my flights.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

I can tell you the best darknet vendor to use for legit stuff. That's the best and cheapest way to get Xanax in the UK. You're likely to get real alprazolam and not get ripped off for it. If you're staying at a hotel tell them you're waiting for a package of documents or some shit. They'll take it at reception no problem.

You can buy on the street but prices are high and dealers are all selling fake pressed bars which often contain etizolam and caffeine (yes caffeine in a fake Xanax bar, no idea why). I also don't recommend going to the dodgy endz in London if you're obviously a tourist. In the UK Xanax is a "chavvy" drug really so it's sold by "roadmen" who are basically chavs who sell drugs.

When you in London and what part roughly? Probably best to take this to PMs but I have ways of helping.

[–]belletaco0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

thank you! i've saved all this info and i really appreciate it.

I'm there the end of November, I'm staying closer to Twickenham at a friends house, but will of course be in central most of the time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Alright cool. Come to think of it, I know how to buy Xanax on eBay. They're still pressed bars but good ones with actual alprazolam. My mate buys them all the time. You're looking at £20 for 10 which is cheap compared to street prices and you only need a small amount.

If you have a friend you're staying with, you can send them the eBay link, get them to order, and pay them back the cost. Easiest way to do it with zero hassle.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

yes caffeine in a fake Xanax bar, no idea why

Likely to give you the feel or sense of the drug without giving you the actual drug or a low amount of it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

The bars have alprazolam, etizolam, diclazepam, or some type of benzo inside, and the caffeine as well.

I'm guessing it's one of two reasons:

  1. They know people are taking the drug recreationally, the caffeine will keep them awake so they can enjoy the high otherwise eating bars causes this with esp with no tolerance.

  2. The Chinese lab they buy their alprazolam from just cuts it with random shit and the pressers don't bother to test it before putting it in the bars.

Given that RC benzos like etiz and diclaz were found in many of these the second option seems most likely to me.

In any case finding good Xans in the UK has become a minefield since HBB was taken down. Those were the golden days man 2015-2017 I could pay £80 and get 250 bars. Once they got more popular he upped the price ofc but even then I'd pay £60 for 100 and end up getting 150. All perfect presses, look like pharma, lab tested real alprazolam.

Check this shit looks identical to pharma (except the red one lol... those were special edition 5mg bars).

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I can question a lot of these, but will specifically choose, "Favored in healthcare."

How? I thought studies actually supported young women were taken least seriously by general doctors.

How? Anything female reproductive system wise is taken more seriously than male reproductive wise in sex ed. There are many things related to men's health that isn't taken seriously.

[–]apube8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I work in research related to women's reproductive health. Trust me, there's a good reason so much money is spent on it; it benefits literally everyone ever born, not just women.

Also no shit we spend less money on the male side of things???? Men don't get pregnant. There's much, much less that can go wrong from their end.

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I work in research related to women's reproductive health. Trust me, there's a good reason so much money is spent on it; it benefits literally everyone ever born, not just women.

Maybe in pre-natal care.

Also no shit we spend less money on the male side of things???? Men don't get pregnant. There's much, much less that can go wrong from their end.

You're underestimating how complicated an erection is from a medical standpoint too, lol.

[–]apube2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Maybe in pre-natal care.

Right

You're underestimating how complicated an erection is from a medical standpoint too, lol.

What do you even mean by this dude...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

What do you even mean by this dude...

It a complex reflex and the penis in general is also quite complicated.

[–]apube6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Ok sure. I promise you boners aren't as complicated as pregnancy and maternal-fetal interactions but that's beside the point. What research do you think needs to be done on erections and how would this help make healthier babies? What complications arise from erections that need to be addressed, and why are they equally important to pregnancy and fetal health? How can we improve infant mortality rate by studying the penis getting engorged with blood, before conception has occured?

Look man, if you want to prove your victimhood with regards to medical research and spending, you've probably got an argument - women have theirs too, sure, but I'll bet there's plenty to be said. Think more along the lines of federal or public spending on certain types of cancers, not this nonsense. You could probably make a pretty interesting, thought-provoking post, maybe save it for after purge week.

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Its not about who has it more complicated, its about how little male reproductive system stuff is discussed despite the complexity.

[–]apube9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree that's not the point. But the reason reproduction discussion is so focused on the female side is extremely obvious. Men have sperm, women have their eggs, these are important, but then you've got a 9 month period where all sorts of stuff happens and soooo much can go wrong, and then you've got delivery where even more shit can hit the fan. This is all important for the fetus' development, plus men aren't out here dying and getting their bodies wrecked from pregnancy and child birth.

Read my edit on the last post

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plus men aren't out here dying and getting their bodies wrecked from pregnancy and child birth.

Hence why efforts should be to have artificial wombs expedited.

[–]belletaco10 points11 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

errrrrm, no. if you want to talk sex ed, that's different and really it's because the female reproductive system is more interesting than the males in that it carries the child.

in actual medicine, women are often not taken seriously. i needed a blood transfusion once and 3 doctors ignored all my symptoms until i passed out one day and ended up in an ambulance. instead of taking me seriously, i was forced to take 3 pregnancy tests -_-

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errrrrm, no. if you want to talk sex ed, that's different and really it's because the female reproductive system is more interesting than the males in that it carries the child.

Don't care. Its still neglected (mens).

Your bs logic is that "women's system is more complex so nothing about men matters."

in actual medicine, women are often not taken seriously. i needed a blood transfusion once and 3 doctors ignored all my symptoms until i passed out one day and ended up in an ambulance. instead of taking me seriously, i was forced to take 3 pregnancy tests -_-

Yeah that's understandable. And its sad too. I think doctors are cunts too in general (think OMFS).

[–]belletaco1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I didn't really say more complex, I said interesting and I meant in terms of sexual education because when discussing reproductive organs you have to acknowledge most of it takes place within the woman's body.

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Well to men, we find our systems interesting.

[–]belletaco1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

shocking

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Well you were trying to put a blanket on the thing.

[–]belletaco2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

did you read?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Did you?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So then is it okay to consign men's to the bottom drawer?

[–]belletaco0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The issue is more they can get it for free easier via single motherhood

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Honey, it's not just doctors. Everyone takes young women least seriously. As well they should.

[–]belletaco0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok. Do you feel better now?

[–]ConnorGracieWhy Don't You Just Date Hypothetical Girl Who Doesn't Exist4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They'll bitch that there aren't enough women in clinical trials but you very well know if it was reversed they'd say women aren't guinea pigs to test medicine for men.

[–]DrippyskippyMonk6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Lets be honest for a moment. Facts aren't actually facts. Feelings are facts. I feel that the patriarchy exists, so it does. You can't argue that.

I'll address some points:

  • Women shouldn't be made to register for a draft because men are stronger and more disposable than women. Maybe once a guy can birth a baby this will change.
  • Its not my fault that men are just stubborn and don't go to the doctor. Blame men they control all the money for research, AKA patriarchy.
  • Most men deserve to be in prison. So who cares? As we all know, women are better people than men anyway.
  • Women should by default get children over men. Father's aren't important for the nurturing of a child. Women are better at it. But you're slightly right, it is sexist, but only against women obviously because it keeps women in strict gender roles.
  • Women shouldn't be held responsible for most things they do because of the patriarchy. Doesn't matter if it involves alcohol or involves murder. There is usually a man to blame.
  • I laughed at this one. Men can be raped? HAHAHA that is news to me. I think the right wingers call that fake news.
  • Men shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves against women because physically men are stronger. If a woman hits you 10x, it doesn't mean you can hit her back. If he does, he should be the one going to jail. I don't see anything wrong with this.
  • BELIEVE ALL WOMEN. No ifs ands or butts. If she was raped, she was raped, if she was sexually assaulted she was sexually assaulted. Obviously, this only applies to when women are the victims and men are the perpetrators. Women don't lie, this is fact.

After reading all these bullet points please re read my first line in my post....No really, read it again. Now you know that I'm right and you're wrong. Feelings > Facts.

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Women are angels bro

[–]DrippyskippyMonk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is correct, don't forget it. I can't wait for the future because women will rule the world.

[–]telytuby1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Up until the rape part this was scarily like something I’ve heard IRL

[–]DrippyskippyMonk2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Then it sounds like I'm playing my character well.

[–]SerpentCypher4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Technically, anything that favours women and hurts men is still sexism against women. It's just benevolent sexism. So yes, this meme actually hits the nail on the head, in a way.

[–]Popeman79Red Pill Man19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha, the old "I'm a victim of you being too nice to me!"

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yep

[–]RoyalAugur921 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Brevity is the soul of wit."

William Shakespeare

[–]sawouthkayCool and Smart Black Purple Piller0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists like to throw around the concept that the loss of privilege feels like injustice to men but it’s just one of many many examples of things they got backward.

Women face particular difficulties in their lives, but they are not oppressed in most (they are exceptions) of the West by any stretch of the imagination

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  • Exempt from Selective Service (Draft)

Probably negligible. For us to be in a situation where the draft is instated, at this point in technological history, we'd have to be on the verge of Nuclear Winter.

On a personal note, as a servicemember who just got back from deployment, fuck the draft altogether. The last thing anyone would actually want is people of either gender serving who didn't want to be there.

  • Favored in Healthcare

This one requires a lot more nuance than that. How about how until recent history, drug trials only used male volunteers because they didn't want "female hormone cycles" interfering with results, so now commonly prescribed medications have unexpected results cause they've never been tested on women? Or how women with heart attacks present very differently than men and even still many health practitioners are not aware, so statistically many women that could've been treated appropriately die cause their symptoms aren't recognized?

Yes women "win" in some aspects of healthcare but the bottom line is it's a much more complicated assessment than this.

  • Lighter sentences for same crimes

Agreed, with the caveat of violent crimes. Are you seeking to punish based on intention/rehabilitation or possible damage done? The majority of the time, a guy beating the shit out of someone can do a lot more damage than a woman.

  • Exclusive Government Services

Agreed, again with a caveat- VA services, while shitty in many ways, are especially shitty to women. Even though the percentage of female vets is climbing higher every year, few VA centers have regular women's health or are equipped to offer services for those suffering from sexual trauma, especially when considering the rape/sexual assault rates in the military. I haven't looked up the statistics since 2016 but at the time there were exactly two VA homeless shelters that took in women, and hundreds for men.

Proportionally speaking, yes, there's many more male veterans but even with that in mind the resources for female servicemembers are shockingly abysmal in comparison.

  • Not net-taxpayers

Agreed

  • Diversity Quotas/Affirmative Action

Agreed

  • Default child custody in divorce

Agreed to a degree. Most men don't fight for full custody of their kids. The ones I know who did, have it.

  • No responsibility for drunken sex

Agreed.

  • Govt Subsidized Everything

Come on now. That's a heavy blanket statement to make.

  • Can rape men and still get child support

Convicted rapists can sue in most States to get visitation rights of the child they conceived DURING a rape. While not exactly the same thing, obviously this system is fucked on both ends, wouldn't you say?

  • Men arrested for defending selves

Agreed to a degree. Men can cause significantly more damage, on average.

  • Can falsely accuse men of rape without evidence

And nothing legal will happen to him. While I get that reputations can be destroyed and jobs lost, it's very, VERY difficult to obtain an actual conviction of rape. The Innocence Project shows WAY more people exonerated of MURDER than rape, cause to actually get a conviction requires a LOT of evidence.

On that note, thousands of rape kits across the country are sitting in cold storage and have yet to be processed due to finances of local municipalities. Fact of the matter is, it's sadly easy to "get away" with rape for just this reason, and people know that, which is why most people assume it's possible a woman was raped when she claims it.

Therefore, you want to get rid of false claims, fix the system-process the kits, advocate for more money to go to SVU investigations, harsher sentences for those actually convicted, and tighten up the system. If people believe it works, they're less likely to believe outright a woman who comes forward with nothing but a claim.

  • Can rape boys... Media

Agreed

  • Never responsible for their actions

Single motherhood is a pretty big responsibility. Yes they get Government help but for the majority of single moms, that's still their life.

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Whoa haha amazing

[–]chronoventer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

r/theredpill needs to go back up. There are far too many incels on here. God forbid women want equality.

[–]hemoglobinz-2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Disregarding the veracity of these claims, all of these things you described are the result of the patriarchy. It's a pretty basic concept: men benefit from feminism as well as women.

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No

[–]ConnorGracieWhy Don't You Just Date Hypothetical Girl Who Doesn't Exist0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Blacks benefited from slavery, they get to live in the US.

[–]hemoglobinz2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't compare being a man in 2018 to slavery.

[–]ConnorGracieWhy Don't You Just Date Hypothetical Girl Who Doesn't Exist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists do.

[–]balderdash90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is "the patriarchy" can be applied however the feminist wants. I think that's what the meme gets at; any and everything is the fault of the patriarchy.

[–]VermiciousKnidzzBlue Pill Man-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

every gender benefits and suffers from patriarchy in different respects. most of these stem from the BS idea that women are all delicate lil' creatures who cant do any wrong. which feminism and Red Pill both coincidentally want to do away with.

also, is it surprising that women have more focus in healthcare? aside from the fact that some necessary parts of women's healthcare (Access to abortion, BC, etc) are actively on the line, women literally give birth. of course healthcare wont be equal.

some of these (can accuse men of rape without evidence, women assumed custody) are bullshit MRA talking points.

[–]wowiewowiewowiewowie10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism doesn't want to do away with the notion that women are delicate children. You'd have to be an absolute retard to think that. They want women to be treated as helpless children when it benefits them, and as capable adults when that benefits them.

Being seen as weak and helpless is a huge benefit in all areas of the justice system, which is why feminists don't give a shit that men get 63% longer sentences for the same crime. You will never see feminists protesting for more prison time for themselves to make things equal. You will never see feminists protesting against unequal domestic violence guidelines like the Duluth Model.

This is why you will see feminists saying that when a drunk man and a drunk woman have sex, the man is a rapist and the woman is a victim. It benefits them to be viewed as weak children in these cases because it gets them sympathy points.

When it comes to relationships, politics and professional careers, however, they suddenly want to be treated like they're just as capable as men.

[–]balderdash90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is "the patriarchy" can be applied however the feminist wants. I think that's what the meme gets at; any and everything is the fault of the patriarchy.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

HOLY MOLY ITS AN 2013 again and MRA s are HOT BABY!!!!!

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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