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Chad is a stupid term that men use to shame women for liking men. “Well you liked a Chad” is equivalent to saying “you liked a guy who was way out of your league”.

The problem is, no one agrees what Chad means. To some men, Chad is a multimillionaire 6’5” male underwear model. This definition would make sense if it was universally used and any of us actually knew multimillionaire male models.

To other men, Chad is a good looking average dude in a god job. The problem with this definition is that “good looking” can mean anything. It can mean 8/10+ or it can mean 5/10+. A good job can mean $50k+ or $100k+.

Another problem is that many men have expanded the word Chad to include any man worth dating. He makes $70k and is a 6/10? He’s a Chad. He is a nurse and lifts weights? Chad. He works for a startup and is an average looking white dude? CHAD! And if he hurts you or rejects you, it’s your fault.

Then you blame us for dating a guy worth dating. You should have dated a guy who is a poor NEET! He would have appreciated you! You should have gone for that disabled guy in a wheelchair! He would have loved you for who you are! You should have gone for the morbidly obese guy! Lower your standards!

But would these men turn around and lower the standards and date the handicapped, deformed, mentally ill, and NEETs, the same way they expect us to? Some, but not many. Plus, any man that doesn’t have any of those flaws is a “Chad”.

It also seems like, universally, any time a woman gets rejected, men blame her for liking Chad. “He ghosted me” “because you liked Chad!” You should have dated a mentally ill NEET who has a facial deformity! He would have loved you for who you are!


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[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad51 points52 points  (30 children) | Copy Link

Chad is a litmus test to show womens difference in behavior between men.

Everyone knows men treat the skinny girl with big tits better than franny frumps. Women do the same thing with men, but claim not to be influenced by attractive men.

[–]TallSwaggOVO 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

but claim not to be influenced by attractive men

Bro that’s exactly what I’ve been saying for the longest. At least men will admit attraction influence. Women won’t even admit it.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Because their game is to lie that they want one thing while doing another thing. That's the whole pua of the females

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not looking for hookups

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. That's the shit which infuriates men.

[–]KrispyMcSockingtonPillar of the community5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

After she's 'tired of all the bad boys'. Actually, she's tired of being pumped and dumped because the men who gave her tingles wouldn't commit.

It's especially hilarious when this comes from single moms.

'Oh, so you're NOT into non-commital sex? How did that little kid happen then?'

'Oh that's all in the past, teehee! I'm a different person now and ready for a nice, FINANCIALLY STABLE man who wants to treat me like a queen even though my children from different men always come first...'

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this12 points13 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Some of us do admit it and we're called shallow bitches for it. So I wonder why other women aren't admitting. Hmmm

[–]TallSwaggOVO 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

While you are kind of right, remember that men are shamed for it as well. Salty incels or femcels are gonna get mad at any preference you have. If I go out and say I don’t want to date a fat woman, I will get some flack behind it. (Yes, despite what Reddit says, in terms of outside of this website, I will get flack for it.)

[–]MercedesBenzoAMGbringing percocets molly percocet back to ppd0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I've actually got flack on this very sub from multiple female users just for having the audacity to suggest I'm not sexually attracted to fat women.

[–]Marino4KPurple with a splash of Red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

not sexually attracted to fat women.

Which is more of a preference in the end so why you’d be getting flamed is beyond stupid. A woman would openly claim she’s not into an obese guy and it’s just ok. I hate double standards

[–]KrispyMcSockingtonPillar of the community1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen really overweight women's dating profiles saying they don't want fat men. Yes, you're allowed to have any standards you like but hardly anyone calls them out on it.

Look at the the outrage on social media when a Scottish woman was offended that a good looking man refused to date overweight women:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/family-relationships/man-goes-dating-site-declares-8968997

Compare his desire for a slender woman under 30 to the never ending list of demands women make online.

https://youtu.be/zlLH_ph74Es

[–]sketch16200010 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The thing is...it's true, though. You're shallow. Just like men. Just like everyone.

Men don't get to run from the truth just because it's unflattering. Why should women?

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I admit i see the butthurt come from men when women do admit it.

[–]Poster515 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

A lot of men feel butthurt because they are lied to all their lives about it. Even after being redpilled many men continue to feel butthurt because women continue to not be upfront regardless. Their female friends, peers, SOs, whathaveyou still say "looks don't matter" regularly, "I don't care about looks", "looks matter but it's a minor issue".

I've heard plenty of women say they don't want a guy who's "too goodlooking" and "good looks don't do anything for me" and "goodlooking is of no use to me". There are reasons for all these statements, but bottom line is if we're going off of what women say you understand why BP men get the impression growing up that being nice and getting a good job is the focus and all you need, that appearance is/should be an afterthought in self improvement.

[–]KrispyMcSockingtonPillar of the community2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys got called shallow and were blamed for women's self images problems, self esteem issues and oppressing women with the male gays male gaze. Everyone gets flak for being shallow. Men are just more honest about what they like and are, ironically, less shallow as they tend to prefer a wider variety of women. Women tend to prefer a smaller sample of the male population and are far less honest about it.

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are never called shallow pigs/assholes.

[–]mgtownigga6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

women don't even have to admit it, they say it all the time. If you're around any women that are comfortable around you, you will hear them talk about how attractive certain guys are constantly. Or say things like 'how is he single when hes that attractive' or 'i cant believe shes with him, hes not even that attractive' and so on and so forth. I have yet to meet a woman who didn't say these things at some point

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

but claim not to be influenced by attractive men.

Who in the world claims this?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh boy...

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Plenty

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh ok well I guess I'll just believe you then.

People are attracted to attractive people. WHAT A SHOCKER!

[–]KrispyMcSockingtonPillar of the community2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not the problem. It's that women lie about being attracted to those men. It's reinforced by bad advice and women's repeated complaints about men who treat them badly.

But boy do they enjoy dating those guys.

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Plenty that claim that looks don't matter at all or plenty that say stuff like "looks aren't everything" or "personality matters more"? Because I'm pretty sure this is just yet another strawman based on hyperbolic misinterpretations

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men do not say this

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That & man aren averse to dating down whereas women almost exclusively date up.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And men claim to like all women.

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No they dont

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not irl, because it’s stupid and obviously untrue. But if I had nickel for every time someone on here said “Men find almost all women attractive” I’d have a whole bunch of nickels.

[–]sketch16200043 points44 points  (87 children) | Copy Link

The "everyone who can get laid at all is Chad" fallacy is real. But so is the halo effect, which is the core point of the whole Chad meme.

These motherfuckers have no trouble getting laid, because a lot of women (and men, tbh. Humans are idiots.) will ignore demonstrably bad people if they are attractive enough, however you define "attractive."

tldr: people are shallow af. There's a cultural meme that women are not shallow af. Cue manosphere gleefully pointing out said shallowness when women complain about bad habits that she ignored at first because dude is/was attractive.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪12 points13 points  (39 children) | Copy Link

have no trouble getting laid, because a lot of women (and men, tbh. Humans are idiots.) will ignore demonstrably bad people if they are attractive enough, however you define "attractive."

this is so bass ackwards. what your CALLING "bad" in youre beta "morality" is ACTUALLY attractive masculinity. they arent attracted to them DESPITE being "bad", "bad" is actually whats attractive

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this7 points8 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

I would not say Trump is attractive masculinity.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪9 points10 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

yes only hot models are able to perceive trumps attractiveness

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this5 points6 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Hot models just want his money.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪6 points7 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

youre fooling yourself if you think women dont find trump attractive, i mean when he was still in his sexually viable years

[–]mgtownigga7 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

yeah, I don't get this liberal bullshit where they judge trump's attractiveness based on what he looks/acts like in his older years. that guy was a hot property for a long time and could fuck virtually any woman he wanted. The man's name was glorified in rap songs and a in a lot of other popular culture as well.

[–]GridReXXit be like that7 points8 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Trump was a solidly average looking white man, above 6 feet, very wealthy, and a weird mix of self-assured and absurdly insecure.

Hence he was attractive to a lot of women and especially a lot of women looking to land a come up from a dude who's easily woo'd by a quick stroke of the ego.

Also young Trump looked like a "not super cute, but cute in a moody indie songwriter way" type of a chap.

I actually think young him could have been way hotter than what he was. But alas Trump was committed to bad hair, bad posture, and a bad diet all of his young life.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Anyone with a billion bucks can sleep with very attractive people. Hell, Billionaire Quasimodo might find his share of transactional relationships.

[–]GridReXXit be like that5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Right.

Though I was making the point that young Trump was probably actually found physically attractive by a subset of people.

Not me but I’m sure some.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So committed to wearing suits that don't fit him! I don't get it.

[–]GridReXXit be like that0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had committed to ill-fitting suits in there at first but took it out! 😂 agreed!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo we have a winner

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

How is he insecure?

[–]GridReXXit be like that0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The way he reacts to everything I can’t relate to. Seems insecure and not cool to me.

[–]sketch1620001 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Right. Because getting punched in the eye, raped/murdered, and "grabbed by the pussy" are attractive.../s

I'm more inclined to think that women are a bit less insane and simply fool themselves into thinking that "he wouldn't do it to me," instead of being actively aroused by the real possibility of their own destruction.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪9 points10 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

feel free to live in moralizing fantasy la la lnd

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Why do I feel like you speak as if your opinion is more than just an opinion, and is somehow worth more than anyone else’s in here? You seem to be into the bad boy type, and have said as much, but let’s not act like most women don’t need a little bit of that comfort. A demonstrably bad person is not going to provide that, and while the good may outweigh the bad a lot of the time that doesn’t mean that a guys “bad qualities” (not the “blooper” bad qualities but actual bad qualities, I think we both know the distinction) are actually attractive to most women.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Because I am right about everything and you can feel it through the screen.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Didn’t address the points I made, unsurprisingly. On another note though, what do you do? Because you sure as shit seem to have a lot of downtime to shitpost on the job.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Why would I read any point you made after you began your worthless typings with unwelcome pointless personal observations about my character and how it makes you "feel"? Do you think your stupid questions are owed some kind of respect now?

I dont care what you think of me or what kind of feelings I inspire in you. Go tell your therapist and then go try to shame your mom for having such an insignificant child.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The use of the word feel was not literal. Obviously. I could’ve easily substituted it with “why does it seem like” and it would’ve had the exact same meaning. Speaking of worthless typings, why not look at the sub you’re on lmao. It’s pretty inherently worthless, and most normal people wouldn’t have the slightest idea what a “chad” even was. But this is a discussion board based on ones opinions and personal experiences, therefor the observation about your character followed by a statement based upon that seems to be pretty par for the course, don’t you think?

It is kind of sad that you feel the need to tell an anonymous stranger just how much you don’t care about what I think, only to follow it up with a half baked insult about my therapist and Mom (wow, you sure got me LOL). But obviously you don’t care about what anyone thinks, despite the fact you spend all day everyday on a PPD discussion forum arguing your opinions.

And once again we have a shining example of why TRP gets clowned time and time again. Too bad so many people don’t realize that once you wade through the incels and whatever type of angry sperg you are that there’s actually some pretty good information to be found.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lol paragraphs. Who are you typing for? I'm not reading that

[–]MoodyBrizo 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

They are aroused by the ability to destroy, not necessarily their destruction in particular, but we all know how well this goes.

[–]StudntRdyTeachrApearThug Passion Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like this distinction. Good point.

[–]jackandjill22 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I would hate to have to be exposed to your shrill illogical complaining all the hours of the day.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Why don't you block me and then poke your eyes out and die instead of following me around jerking yourself off at my comments for your imaginary audience that doesn't exist, nobody

[–]jackandjill22 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

You're confused. I'm just expressing my unsolicited opinion. If this upsets you well then see a therapist(judging by which you should probably visit one anyway).

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm not confused at . you are a worthless insignificant nobody who contributes nothing to this sub reddit at all but following me around making dumb comments begging for my attention. You are nothing, you are nobody, you are worthless, you are in significant, you don't exist

[–]jackandjill22 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Someone put this bitch back on its leash please.

[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth[M] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Be Civil.

[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Be Civil.

[–]mgtownigga3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Chads dont even have to be bad people either, they can just be stupid, clueless, or weird and it doesnt' matter' I know this guy that is seriously kind of gooney in behavior but he can coast on his looks 24/7. It's ridiculous, if he wasn't attractive he'd be fucked

[–]whopbopaloobop2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Oh my God, when will this type of thinking stop? Look, my partner is broke, and maybe a "2" out of 10 looks wise. I, not to be an asshole, I literally stop traffic and have a pretty great job. I stood by this NotChad thru some really rough shit. His job is shit, he isn't stereotypically attractive.... But he is a good person who makes me laugh and is kind and thoughtful and open and is a true friend. He isn't a doormat, and has never expressed the opinion that he is "owed" or "due" anything from anyone. We are in a true 50\50 relationship. I fell in love with him long before we started dating. Not because of what he could do for me- but because I could tell that we could do big things together. Stop referring to girls as Stacey's. Stop acting like you're some poor person that no one understands. Stop acting like you're some special case. You aren't. You're just a dude that wants some lovin'. Noones gonna give it to you if you don't give it to yourself. And not in the weird "I'm so smart,no one else could ever get me" way. But in the real, " take some mushrooms and have a serious chat with yourself" way.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh my God, when will this type of thinking stop? Look, my partner is broke, and maybe a "2" out of 10 looks wise. I, not to be an asshole, I literally stop traffic and have a pretty great job. I stood by this NotChad thru some really rough shit. His job is shit, he isn't stereotypically attractive.... But he is a good person who makes me laugh and is kind and thoughtful and open and is a true friend.

Found another alien female. Blue skin or green? :P

[–]whopbopaloobop0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is it weird that a woman could care for someone for reasons other than looks or money?

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it is weird - but in a really good and encouraging sort of way? It took me up until my 30s to find and marry a woman like you. That's how rare that quality is.

Anyway, your "Stop referring to girls as Stacey's" remark was flawless advice. I actually have a thread on here about the irrationality of men's obsession with the kind of woman that one would call a Stacey (hot babes, essentially).

[–]sketch1620001 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Are you sure you responded to the right person?

[–]whopbopaloobop0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Unless im totally reading your post the wrong way, yeah.

[–]sketch1620002 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I...kinda really think you are misreading...

I didn't say a single thing about myself in there, so I'm not sure where you got the notion that I refer to women as "Stacy's" or that I'm acting like I'm a "special case" or "a poor person that no one understands" or "that I want some lovin'..." But either way, as for your devotion to your broke, NotChad husband,

a lot of women (and men, tbh. Humans are idiots.) will ignore demonstrably bad people if they are attractive enough, however you define "attractive."

"A lot" of women. Not all.

I'm happy for you two btw.

[–]whopbopaloobop-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I guess I was just on the early defense, because I expect everyone on this subreddit to be hateful.
I'm just genuinely perplexed by the "incel " thing.
Just stop being hateful. One wold be amazed at how far one can get.

[–]whopbopaloobop0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The "stop being hateful" wasn't directed at you, btw: I meant in a blanket type of way.

[–]sketch1620000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No harm done :)

[–]whopbopaloobop1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I may actually be reading your post the wrong way, after re- rereading it. I hope i am, anyways.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This seems completely out of left field, a total non sequitor and maybe even written under the influence of drugs, and still somehow a profoundly accurate description of many relationships in everyday life. Kudos.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (32 children) | Copy Link

Charles Manson was not attractive I don’t know why women liked him.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪14 points15 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

how can you say a man who got a UMC girl to take him into her home after he got out of jail at 23 and then got her to let him move 18 other girls in with them wasnt "Attractive". im pretty sure this is the definition of male attractiveness

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

im pretty sure this is the definition of male attractiveness

That's not "attractive", that's being a master manipulator. A charismatic cult leader.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

charismatic

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

She was stupid. That’s why.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪5 points6 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

and the other 18 women who wre hot for him? also stupid lol

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Yes. They didn’t just sleep with him. They ruined their lives.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Advice up with him and ruined their lives over him because he was so attracted to Them

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So: Charles Manson-level charisma?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

OP, have you considered you are considerably more discriminating than not just these idiots, but women in general?

You’re a virgin at 24 and on a Friday night, you’re posting on a forum devoted to ruthlessly deconstructing the dynamics of male/female relationships. Right now, a lot of girls your age are out getting sloshed and will probably flirt and maybe even end up in the bed of an attractive stranger.

I kind of like how you roll, I actually admire it, but clearly not everybody is like that, right?

[–]mgtownigga1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

seriously. he gives women way too much credit. I think he'd be shocked at the types of guys that women he respects have fucked

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

*she

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s not night time where I am.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah I’m in Europe. Cheers

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Why is this a response to Charles mason lol

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Because maybe those girls are fairly normal and representative?

Emphasis on the “maybe”

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

So it’s fairly normal to join a sex cult and etch a cross on your head?

[–]frogsgoribbit7370 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

They're not. I am also a 24 year old who is married and is definitely normal. He's not fucking attractice. He was known for having a lot of charisma and being able to manipulate young, clueless women into doing what he wanted. Most women would not fall for it or find him attractive. He was just good at singling out the weak ones in the hers.

Also being a virgin at 24 does not make a woman picky. There are many reasons that someone would be waiting to have sex and we should not be acting like it is unusual or wrong because it's neither.

Despite what this sub things, many young women wait and many many many young women don't go out to the club and get sloshed every weekend. That's just something you see on TV, not real life.

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Charles Manson was not attractive I don’t know why women liked him.

He wasn't unattractive (he actually had style), he was confident, he could sing and made good music and was a master manipulator.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

made good music

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Are you implying that "people say I'm no good", "eyes of a dreamer" or "don't do anything illegal" aren't good songs?

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yea. Say what you will about Charles Manson, but the dude had his finger on the pulse of 60s music. Even the Beach Boys thought so.

[–]storffish0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

only Dennis Wilson did.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah. I'm quoting that because it's all you need to make your point .

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

was a master manipulator.

I just can't see it. He says all this shit and it doesn't sound like it means anything to me when I listen to him in interviews.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He was literally the chief of a gang. You need to be pretty dark triad to get there, lest you get killed by some ambitious acolyte.

[–]Russelsteapot42Non Pill2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Manipulation is individual. He can't manipulate you if he doesn't know you. He's also bound to be a little out of touch because jail.

[–]storffish1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

c h a r i s m a

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man21 points22 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Chad is just a personification of the alpha traits that are very sexually attractive to women.

[–]AloneOnTheStrange5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. It's just a nickname given to the archetypal alpha male. Who the hell can deny Chad exists? Do they deny alpha males exist?

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs8 points9 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

, in the opinion of a bunch of men who self-admit they've had a difficult time with women.

Chad is pure projection.

[–]hammerhauntsbread pill6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Are there men who get more attention from women, or is the amount of attention received from women entirely equal?

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Are there women who get more attention from men, or is the amount of attention received from men entirely equal?

Attractive people tend to date other attractive people. Film at 11.

[–]hammerhauntsbread pill4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are there women who get more attention from men

There are.

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is assuming a monogamous dating structure is still in play, especially during people's most sexually viable years. Chads don't date — they have harems.

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Chad is pure projection.

If they were projecting on Chad then they'd think he'd struggle with women too in their mind; at least if we're basing this off the psychological term.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

No, they're not projecting themselves onto Chad, they're projecting what they think makes a man attractive onto women. It's pure solipsism.

[–]FvckYourSafeSpace 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

put down the pipe pal

[–]LeaneGenovaBreaker of (comment) Chains[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Knock it off and be civil.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good argument. /s

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That use of projection would work better if they were gay.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gay men know what makes a man attractive (to them), because they are attracted to men. TRPs aren't gay, generally, so they're guessing what makes a man attractive -- to anyone, much less to a woman -- and then projecting their guess onto women. It's a very straight-male idea of attractiveness, if you dig into it a little.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

B.S. I may struggle with women but Chad is not a figment of my imagination. When I know guys who sleep with literally hundreds of women in their lifetimes. Sometimes with a roster of different girls at any one time. While the rest of the people I know stick with Monogamy. That is Chad.

[–]Marino4KPurple with a splash of Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

“Chad” at this point is too generalized to be a person. It’s basically a mindset now. You want to achieve “Chad” like people want to achieve “zen”

[–]TallSwaggOVO 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

While I do agree with the general sentiment of what you are saying, I want to clear something up.

The truth of the matter is: Men are more honest about their desires and wants than women are. This sets up for confusion on a males part, when assessing a women. The women will be seen as hypocritical in their choices and desires in the sexual and dating market. For example, ask a man what he wants, and he’ll say a slim woman, good curves, sexually explorative with him, and other physical and character qualities. It will be very linear to what he pursues. With women however, it’s a bit more trickier. With women, they’ll say they want a “nice guy” who’s sweet and caring, and would typically say looks don’t generally matter (yes despite of Reddit telling you otherwise, women aren’t as honest in real life). However, women would ignore the guy with all those good qualities, and pursue the “Chad” that’s an asshole jerk, that’s visually more attractive. There is nothing wrong with wanting someone attractive at all. You shouldn’t pursue someone you aren’t attracted to. The problem comes in when you aren’t honest about it. If you want somebody assertive and attractive, just say it. It’s your life and your dating preference, you should be able to seek what you want. It’s just seeing as hypocritical to the guys that already don’t truly know what you want.

I guess Chads refer to those guys that the girls truly pursue, and not the said ones that they claim.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.16 points17 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

It’s isn’t dishonesty. It’s not intentional. Women who say “I just want a guy who is nice to me” are picturing a guy they are also attracted to, not just any ugly random dude.

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic10 points11 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I think the idea is that women are dishonest because they aren’t mentioning it first. A woman who leads with “I want to meet a nice guy.” makes it appear that that is her first priority, when her first priority is to meet a physically attractive guy, with a secondary priority that he is nice. Men hear first that she wants a nice guy first and think that they have a chance with her, even though they don’t meet her unstated primary criterion.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I mean literally no one is opining on what they want in an SO without presuming that they are attracted to the person.

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Right, well men should assume that she wants to find the man physically attractive too, but often young men don’t assume this. This all goes back to the “brainwashed by Disney movies” argument which the manosphere likes to use.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I think the conspiracy level women collectively aim to lie is ridiculous.

[–]TallSwaggOVO 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

My post wasn’t necessarily that women aim to lie out of some malicious intent. I guess saying women are more dishonest was the wrong word to use (kind of. Females are more than likely to say that “looks don’t matter. But, in reality, they do. That’s why I used the word dishonesty). But, my post was to explain that men are typically more honest about it in general.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok fair enough.

[–]OfSpock1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most people instinctively understand that she means someone in her league. I've read a study which showed that very mismatched couples make people wonder.

[–]AloneOnTheStrange2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree it's unintentional, but it is also disingenuous. If someone asks what either gender likes in the other, it's obvious that the most useful answer is going to separate unattractive from attractive people. It's obvious that leaving the actually attractive traits implied but unstated isn't useful. Furthermore, usually the traits that the woman lists aren't traits that make an attractive man more attractive, but an attractive man comfortable and convenient in a relationship.

I don't believe it's a consipiracy. Women aren't discussing how they can lie to men with their girlfriends over appletinis. It's more just a collective of psychological an emotional traits that make women explain attraction like this. They want to appear moral and less shallow, they don't want to hurt men's feelings, they haven't engaged in the introspection on their own attraction.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No it isn't, because that's ascribing some sort of malicious intent.

If someone asks what either gender likes in the other, it's obvious that the most useful answer is going to separate unattractive from attractive people.

Not to me as a normal person. It is more obvious to me that ppl with describe traits they presumably want in a partner rather than list off "but he needs to be attractive to me first".

they haven't engaged in the introspection on their own attraction.

Yes, not intentionally and not because men are somehow superior and more moral. Ours is just more complicated than yours and we are less visual.

[–]AloneOnTheStrange0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't believe there's malicious intent involved. As I said, it's just a collection of mostly harmless psychological traits, that have an unintended noticeably harmful result.

Not to me as a normal person. It is more obvious to me that ppl with describe traits they presumably want in a partner rather than list off "but he needs to be attractive to me first".

But surely it must be obvious that such an answer isn't useful to the recipient? Now I understand that most of the time that sort of question is asked useful answers aren't an issue. Gal pals aimlessly speculating on the perfect man aren't trying to communicate anything practical and useful. But if the answer is intended for men, usefulness should be the first priority in an answer.

Yes, not intentionally and not because men are somehow superior and more moral. Ours is just more complicated than yours and we are less visual.

No, it's not a superiority thing. I agree that the simplicity of male attraction makes it a lot easier. To be fair, there isn't really much introspection required for men. See a girl you like = get turned on = know what makes you attracted to someone. There is also a much more direct translation between sexual attraction and relationship attraction.

[–]the_calibre_cat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, but they could say "I just want a hot guy who is nice to me," that's clear it up.

[–]reluctantly_red13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I've been thinking about this and trying to define "Chad" with metrics is a useless exercise. A "Chad" is simply a guy who women are attracted to without him having to prove himself. He doesn't have to have a job that's better than his competition. He doesn't have to spend lots of money on women. He doesn't have to spend weeks/months/years whooing. When he doesn't call or text right back women worry (as opposed to getting mad).

"Chad" is a functional definition.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You don’t have to prove yourself if you have a decent job

[–]reluctantly_red5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You don’t have to prove yourself if you have a decent job

What world are you living? Office towers and research parks are full of millions of guys with damn good jobs who can't get a date.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Correct!

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here30 points31 points  (37 children) | Copy Link

I knew a few male models. They live in rathole studio apartments uptown that are filled with clothes with room only for a mini-fridge, a hotplate and a futon.

This version of Chad makes inappropriate come-ons and makes girls wet doing it. That pisses off black-pillers and male feminists alike because it feels like they are locked out of a sexual marketplace where one group of guys are sexy, confident, assertive, dominant, while another group is creepy and weird; and they are both doing the exact same thing.

That being said, female sexuality is discriminatory. Not that I am claiming that is a bad thing; it is what it is. To women, rejecting a man is no big deal. To men, it's basically saying: "Sorry, your poor genetic material and lack of providership status makes you unworthy of reproducing." I understand why men feel slighted by this. That doesn't mean they should of course, but it makes perfect sense for them to blame God, women, being itself and especially Chad.

But would these men turn around and lower the standards and date the handicapped, deformed, mentally disabled, morbidly obese, mentally ill, and NEETs, the same way they expect us to?

Yes, I think they would. Even shy, obese women still have reproductive value. If men stopped fucking insecure women, they would basically stop fucking women. Confidence and security is a masculine trait that is an unavoidable standard to which only men are held to.

Great thread though. You're my favorite femcel by far.

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad12 points13 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

But why male models?

[–]ZodiacBrave98Open Hypergamy Triggers Me5 points6 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

You serious? He just told you that.

A moment ago.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here11 points12 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

Lol all zoolander jokes aside, male models have it rough.

https://www.standard.co.uk/fashion/news/gender-pay-gap-in-modelling-industry-sees-women-earn-75-more-than-men-a3597656.html

The gender pay gap in the modelling industry sees women earn 75% more than men.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Lol somebody post it on feminist subs 😄

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here5 points6 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing is, the gender pay gap in corporations is proven to be a misleading statistic, mostly due to the consequences of the choices women make. The gender pay gap in modelling is men being paid less for literally the same job lolol

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad8 points9 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

They like to say there is less demand for males in x, y, or z industry, and thats why women make more, but if you said there was less demand for female firefighters you would be literally hitler.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

lol yes. Also, in female sports where women are paid less because there is far less demand for female athletes due to the fact that they are so utterly boring to watch.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8njarc/men_face_double_standard_over_celebrity_lust/dzvz7ri/

They (women) do deserve as much attention and praise if they are good at the game.

"Women deserve just as much attention and praise despite the fact that they are boring as hell to watch."

[–]eliechallita1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

> due to the fact that they are so utterly boring to watch

Never got that argument though. Admittedly I don't watch sports regularly, but women's soccer or tennis matches often looked as technical and closely fought as men's matches to me.

Back when I watched the UFC, kickboxing, and boxing more regularly many of the female fighters had very exciting matches as well. You can't tell me that Rousey, Namanujas, or Abreu weren't as exciting as many of the male headliners like Silva or GSP. If anything, they were hampered by their smaller divisions.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Admittedly I don't watch sports regularly, but women's soccer or tennis matches often looked as technical and closely fought as men's matches to me.

Boring. Low skilled. The serves and kicks are far slower and the technical skill doesn't match up at all.

Back when I watched the UFC, kickboxing, and boxing more regularly many of the female fighters had very exciting matches as well.

Rousey's fights were boring too. Arm bar every match? Boring. Fun to watch but pretty boring compared to men.

It's okay that men are far more entertaining to watch displaying physical prowess. Men and women are different, and that is okay.

[–]ffbtawPurple Pill Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

but women's soccer or tennis matches often looked as technical and closely fought as men's matches to me.

Women's soccer/hockey/any teams sport have a handful of first world teams that absolutely dominate the competition.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Bro, not when youre winning. When you're winning. It's a dream life. You know nothing about the industry.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

That’s the same with every industry. What is your point?

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm an art director/male model of a luxury showroom Im in right now & your understanding is sensationalist; at best.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

The average female model's salary, at $41,300, is 148 percent more than the average male model's, according to payscale.com.

The numbers don’t lie. Your opinion doesn’t hold up to the data.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

😂😂

My boss just gave me a pair of Margiela's yesterday.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/8o43up/comment/e00ubmh?st=JI7Y6DJY&sh=d5c50059

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Congrats!

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You guys are nerds you don't understand Prima facie data doesn't describe the entire experience it's just a general estimate of the median. If you're an outlier it's completely different that said:

  • this is a world you all have no understanding of.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you can succeed in the industry that’s great man congrats. The data doesn’t lie.

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh lord.

[–]figyg1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice post 👍

[–]jackandjill22Red Pill misanthropic, contrarian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry bud. That's a stereotype about male models.

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

male feminists alike because it feels like they are locked out of a sexual marketplace where one group of guys are sexy, confident, assertive, dominant, while another group is creepy and weird; and they are both doing the exact same thing.

Male feminist here. This does not reflect my experience in any way. LOL @ the idea that I'd be intimidated by some douchey bro stereotype.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

https://www.removeddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/8p97np/if_its_unwanted_its_harassment_imho_its/

In my experience, male feminists get very salty at the fact that women have different standards of sexual harassment for different men.

This post from yesterday is case in point and was easily found. There are many more like it.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In my experience, male feminists get very salty at the fact that women have different standards of sexual harassment for different men.

Because it's a crime. You can't have standards for one and then no standards for the other because it can mean the difference between jail time and not.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sexual harassment is not a crime. There isn't a state in the US where sexual harassment is a criminal offense, and you can't be put in jail for it.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol same. I do BJJ, have fought cage fights, am a sales manager and definitely a leader within my personality. I don’t worship women or put them on pedestals, and I like mostly “guy” stuff like sports and video games. I just also think that women who have casual sex aren’t doing anything wrong as long as they’re not hurting anybody intentionally, and I try to respect the fact that women want to be judged on things other than just their outer beauty.

The idea that every male who is a feminist is some effeminate dude with pink hair and skinny jeans is silly.

[–]eliechallita3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here. 7 years of BJJ, nigh on 20 years of camping and hiking regularly, and I've taught self-defense seminars for a while.

It's always funny to be called a soyboy beta cuck by people who have never done a pushup...

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, really. I have a shaved head and dress pants!

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

this isn't my experience with male models at all. they're usually very sweet (but yes hot) guys plucked from the midwest.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not saying they play grab ass with female strangers lol I’m saying they do stuff other men consider inappropriate like asking out wait staff, physically escalating as if they are entitled to consent. Stuff like that. I never claimed they were assholes.

[–]abaxeron✴️Indian Programmer7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The problem is, no one agrees what Chad means.

/r/BlackPillScience

It's the same as saying "no-one agrees what physics is" because there are different parts and sections of physics, or "no-one agrees what intelligence is" because there are different tests to determine intelligence.

And if he hurts you or rejects you, it’s your fault.

Hybristophilia is not a myth. Start by excluding convicted violent criminals from your dating and marriage pools instead of giving birth to their children at 64%(!!!!) higher rates, if you don't want negative stereotypes to exist. They exist for a reason.

Then you blame us for dating a guy worth dating.

(metaphorical) I am not blaming your for dating anyone, (metaphorical) I am blaming you for rejecting (metaphorical) me first, and then, less than half a year later, calling (metaphorical) me at 1 AM to cry about how awful he is to you, when (metaphorical) I was single and thirsty, "because we're friends". You know how many male friends call (metaphorical) me at 1 AM to cry about how poorly their FWBs treat them? - NONE. Wipe your runny nose, and fix your life. You had your chance with (metaphorical) me. The complaints department is in another building.

Lower your standards!

The only context in which this sentence is told to women - is when women complain that they're running towards their 40th birthday at full speed, and still haven't met their mr. Right. This is not a thesis, not a political program, not an educational standard, not a law. This is a response.

But would these men turn around and lower the standards and date the

Yes. This is why so many men in relationships suffer. Because their standards of acceptable women's behavior are that low.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude I never had a boyfriend before and men still accuse me of Chad and friendzoning and cock carouseling.

[–]abaxeron✴️Indian Programmer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, so you've never been blamed for your dating choices and your post is purely metaphorical, and based purely on online discussions that had nothing to do with you but you still had to drill yourself into them (such as your history of posting into /r/brancels ). I'd say it's a crucial info; if I had it all along, I'd simply ignore your post.

[–]Taipanshimshonhere for the downvotes6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Chad is generic for “dude who gets laid easy”

It’s the height of solipsism for girls to start thinking it is about them.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

So we are to blame if we like a guy who gets laid easily? We should only like guys who struggle?

[–]Taipanshimshon 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

No one is blaming you for anything you do. Don’t worry dear.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are... you new here? Men in the ‘sphere blame women and their dating habits for pretty much everything wrong in the world.

[–]Taipanshimshonhere for the downvotes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol.

[–]washington_breadstixM'gtow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're too locked into this idea of "blame."

Incels ranting about Chad is more or less like hippies ranting about "the man." It's people who feel they are being kept down commiserating with each other about the force that is keeping them down.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are people shaming you? OR are you just reading posts between men and they mentioned "chads" and also women and you automatically made it about you

How can men be trying to shame women if those posts are never actually directed at women in the first place? No one is blaming women for anything because those posts typically arent directed or meant to be read by women anyway. Not that you cant read it, but dont perceive it as if it was directed towards you

[–]PuleaSpataru69|||17 points18 points  (33 children) | Copy Link

I think men's biggest problem is that women's words dont match their actions. They SAY they want the "nice guy" but they "date"=fuck a guy who has a 6 pack and gives them a black eye. I think their problem is women being hypocrites. They understand WHY you would be attracted to a 6'2 athlete instead of a 5'2 bald janitor. Just be honest.

I feel the same about men who say they want nice girls but end up with sluts. I was for many years a nice girl-ideal in any way and was treated like absolute shit when I wasnt invisible to men. I lost my virginity at 24 and until then men stopped dating me when they found out I was a virgin because it's "weird". I thought that's what they said they want???

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

There is a whole spectrum of men who aren’t athletes or janitors.

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You are purposefully missing the point

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No I am not. Men act like we only have two options: the shitty guy and the top alpha male.

[–]washington_breadstixM'gtow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well then replace the word "guy" with "traits." Women say they want "nice" traits but they actually date/fuck guys with patently non-nice alpha traits.

[–]whopbopaloobop0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Actually, I think it's YOU who is purposefully overlooking a lot of things.

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Negative

[–]whopbopaloobop0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Positive

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia5 points6 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

I think men's biggest problem is that women's words dont match their actions. They SAY they want the "nice guy" but they "date"=fuck a guy who has a 6 pack and gives them a black eye.

But it's not "women" who are doing this. The few low self-esteem women who date abusive men aren't representative of women in general.

I think their problem is women being hypocrites.

How are "women" hypocrites if woman A says that she likes nice guys, but woman B is dating an abusive asshole?

Are men hypocrites if one says that video games are for faggot but other men enjoy them?

I feel the same about men who say they want nice girls but end up with sluts.

Sluts tend to be nice though. Blowjobs all the time, less jealousy and they also don't complain if you take drugs.

[–]PuleaSpataru69|||11 points12 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

But it's not "women" who are doing this. The few low self-esteem women who date abusive men aren't representative of women in general.

Really? There was a post about tons of women drooling over Jeremy Meeks and said they would get beaten any day by him if it means they get to be fucked by him. This isnt an isolated case. Plenty of women-not a few choose abusive men.

How are "women" hypocrites if woman A says that she likes nice guys, but woman B is dating an abusive asshole?

The point is the same woman usually does this. They say "where are all the good men gone?" but date guys who are hot but cheat on them.

Sluts tend to be nice though. Blowjobs all the time, less jealousy and they also don't complain if you take drugs.

You must be on drugs right now if you're happy that you married a slut. And a slut is a slut only with Chad, not with beta cucks. This is why dead bedrooms is fulls of betas who married sluts. They dont get blowjobs, Chad does.

Ask any man that married a slut if his wife is slut FOR HIM. The answer is no.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men won't even admit marrying sluts

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Really? There was a post about tons of women drooling over Jeremy Meeks and said they would get beaten any day by him if it means they get to be fucked by him.

This is why I'm probably going eternal bachelor mode; but I kind of want kids... hmmmmm.

Edit: My fake woman detector is going off a little bit reading your comment.

[–]PuleaSpataru69|||0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Go through my entire history to satisfy your curiosity

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't quite satisfy my curiosity.

You must be on drugs right now if you're happy that you married a slut. And a slut is a slut only with Chad, not with beta cucks. This is why dead bedrooms is fulls of betas who married sluts. They dont get blowjobs, Chad does.

Ask any man that married a slut if his wife is slut FOR HIM. The answer is no.

This in particular for example makes you sound like a man who is a new recruit to the red pill. Your explicit use of terms like "beta cuck", saying: "Ask any man that married a slut if his wife is slut FOR HIM. The answer is no.", and any mention of Chad in a non-satirical way makes me think your a man. "You must be on drugs right now" is a little bit aggressive for a woman. I just don't know why a woman would be interested in learning how to use the terms in the way in which you've used them. If anything, you sound new to red pill lingo or at least new to purple pill debate because your phrasing is really lingo heavy.

I think men's biggest problem is that women's words dont match their actions. They SAY they want the "nice guy" but they "date"=fuck a guy who has a 6 pack and gives them a black eye.

When your phrasing sounds like it was a direct excerpt from r/theredpill , it makes you sound like a man, because who else would read the subreddit to that extent? What would a woman's motivation be to be so red pill savvy?

A quote from your history:

Your whole premise is wrong. Why the hell would you want to date guys in their 20s??? You should never date any guy in his 20s. I dont care if you're 18. Date only men over 30 or even 35. They have careers, money, they have their shit together. My husband is 12 years older than me and I am 24. What would I do with some dusty broke loser in his 20s? He has nothing to offer.

You're 27. You need to date someone who is 35-37 You're young to them and they can offer you things.

If you marry some man in his 20s you'll be a starter wife.

I can say with some degree of certainty you're a man in his thirties. Hehe.

[–]PuleaSpataru69|||0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8okya8/why_do_people_place_so_much_pressure_on_women_to/e05cv1y/

This is a comment I made like 3 days ago. Would a redpill man enforce this? OF COURSE I am familliar with redpill terms like beta cuck etc. Isnt this how everyone gets to purple pill debated? By reading about the redpill and the bluepill and the forum for it like redpill/redill women/mgtow/incels or deadbedrooms for blue pill??? I am a redpill woman. Why wouldnt I know these terms?

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Going by his wrecked logic, I know the word misogyny, so that makes me a woman posing as a dude.

[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it's a Romanian way of writing.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice cherry picking you did there.

I feel the same about men who say they want nice girls but end up with sluts. I was for many years a nice girl-ideal in any way and was treated like absolute shit when I wasnt invisible to men. I lost my virginity at 24 and until then men stopped dating me when they found out I was a virgin because it's "weird". I thought that's what they said they want???

Sounds like a woman to me. Maybe we should just drop the whole amateur attempt at gender profiling?

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get a surrogate mother.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The answer is no.

And if his answer is yes, then he's Chad so your worldview is protected.

It's circular, every man who women are enthusiastically sexual for is a Chad, therefore women are only enthusiastically sexual for Chads.

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Really? There was a post about tons of women drooling over Jeremy Meeks and said they would get beaten any day by him if it means they get to be fucked by him. This isnt an isolated case. Plenty of women-not a few choose abusive men.

That's incel-logic, but that's not how any rational person would prove anything. You don't know the percentage of women who would say something like that if you only listen to those who do; you don't hear those who say nothing.

If you look My Little Pony videos on YouTube you can also find plenty of men who say that they would fuck Rainbow Dash, but that doesn't mean that this is true for men in general.

The difference between logic and incel-logic is that logic is logical and incel-logic is straight up delusional, so I don't understand why you are trying to convince me with incel-logic.

You must be on drugs right now if you're happy that you married a slut. And a slut is a slut only with Chad, not with beta cucks. This is why dead bedrooms is fulls of betas who married sluts. They dont get blowjobs, Chad does.

Lol, seriously? What kind of insecure knee-jerk reaction is that?

Ask any man that married a slut if his wife is slut FOR HIM. The answer is no.

Do you mean "any man" or "any bitter weirdo who spends his free time complaining about women in misogynistic shithole subreddits"? This is just another incel delusion that has barely any basis in reality. Out here in the real world sluts usually pair up with studs.

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That's incel-logic, but that's not how any rational person would prove anything. You don't know the percentage of women who would say something like that if you only listen to those who do; you don't hear those who say nothing. If you look My Little Pony videos on YouTube you can also find plenty of men who say that they would fuck Rainbow Dash, but that doesn't mean that this is true for men in general. The difference between logic and incel-logic is that logic is logical and incel-logic is straight up delusional, so I don't understand why you are trying to convince me with incel-logic.

I’d personally take a mike Tyson haymaker to the dome if it meant I could get to fuck Margot Robbie or the blonde from mad max. I cannot for the life of me understand why some of the red pillers on here can’t seem to wrap their heads around the fact that women will make exceptions for guys they’re very attracted to. This shouldn’t be news to anyone, yet here we are.

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only desperate betas say shit like that. I'm not convinced she's all that until I can see verifiable photos of her with absolutely no makeup and without distorted lighting.

seem to wrap their heads around the fact that women will make exceptions for guys they’re very attracted to. This shouldn’t be news to anyone, yet here we are.

This is the flaw in your logic. It's not them making an exception for an "abusive" guy — they are inherently attracted to him because he's attractive, but even more so due to his "abusiveness".

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lol, seriously? What kind of insecure knee-jerk reaction is that?

http://archive.is/dYQzM

It's amazing how willfully ignorant you are.

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

What is this link supposed to tell me?

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

"There's guys you want to fuck and then there's guys you want to marry"

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How was that supposed to convince me that you're comment wasn't an insecure knee-jerk reaction?

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, this is pretty funny. I actually linked you the wrong piece of evidence, but it still coincidentally supports my claim. She's more than willing to give blowjobs for other men who aren't her husband.

[–]TallSwaggOVO 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

But it’s not “women” who are doing this.

I’m sorry but this is the typical “real women don’t do this” response. The truth of the matter is, a good portion of women do this, otherwise people wouldn’t be complaining about it. (aside from dating the abusive guy). Men are typically more honest honest about their desires, is what is being said. Women aren’t as honest about what they want, which leads to it being seen as somewhat hypocritical when looking at it through the alternative male lens.

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The truth of the matter is, a good portion of women do this, otherwise people wouldn’t be complaining about it. (aside from dating the abusive guy).

What kind of argument is that? People constantly complain about things that aren't as common as they seem, especially the incels here.

And according to researchers the one thing that women who date abusers have in common is that they have had an abusive parent and low self esteem. They think that this behavior is normal and that they don't deserve any better or that they deserve it.

It's not "women" it's "women who have regularly watched their mother get beat up or who endured frequent childhood abuse"

Men are typically more honest honest about their desires, is what is being said. Women aren’t as honest about what they want, which leads to it being seen as somewhat hypocritical when looking at it through the alternative male lens.

If you are looking at it through the "women are a hivemind" lens.

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Chads have harems that include your typical slutty frat girls, but also include your shy, nerdy girls who typically claim they "want a nice guy".

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel the same about men who say they want nice girls but end up with sluts.

Hear, hear. I've never seen such men but I do believe you. Because hypocrisy is like hypergamy - it doesn't f$%king care.

[–]Jcart105Black Pill | Anti-Gynocentrism-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel the same about men who say they want nice girls but end up with sluts. I was for many years a nice girl-ideal in any way and was treated like absolute shit when I wasnt invisible to men. I lost my virginity at 24 and until then men stopped dating me when they found out I was a virgin because it’s “weird”. I thought that’s what they said they want???

Oh the irony...

[–]hammerhauntsbread pill5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The most basic and correct way to see Chad is as the man who can attract the most women. Saying X or Y is a Chad in those contexts sounds like a way to save face

[–]reluctantly_red4 points5 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

... You should have gone for that disabled guy in a wheelchair! He would have loved you for who you are! You should have gone for the morbidly obese guy! Lower your standards!

I realize that this is hyperbole. However, the grain of truth is that women generally overestimate their worth. The morbidly obese guys realizes that he's low value and will be happy with a not so attractive mate. Many low value women still believe that they're entitled to a hot BF and won't even consider guys in their league. They'd rather get occasional affection from a hot guy(s) -- and lets face it there are lots of hot guys who will bang a fatty on the down low.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No. My fat friend asked an even fatter morbidly obese guy to prom in high school and he turned her down for being too fat.

[–]reluctantly_red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

High school isn't real life.

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

High school never ends

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this3 points4 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

However, the grain of truth is that women generally overestimate their worth. The morbidly obese guys realizes that he's low value and will be happy with a not so attractive mate.

Men tend to overestimate their worth more than women do, according to a study if I recall correctly.

[–]Yourstruly7773 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

”according to a study if I recall correctly”, what am I supposed to do with that?!?!

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

But women underestimate the attractiveness of men, according to a study if I recall correctly. So who is actually right?

[–]carefreevermillionLook at me. I'm the Chad now.2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't matter what men think about themselves because it's women they're trying to impress.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

I agree. But it may very well be the case that an average looking man thinks he is average when he is in fact objectively average in attractiveness, but women consider him below average.

So I would argue that the man is not overestimating his attractiveness, the women is underestimating his. But like you said, in the end it doesn't matter since it's the woman he is trying to impress.

[–]carefreevermillionLook at me. I'm the Chad now.0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

In the US, considering the sheer percentage of men that are overweight or obese, I can guarantee that barring social issues above average men have zero issue getting laid.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah. Average frumpy men get average sex with their average frumpy gf's quite regularly lol

[–]carefreevermillionLook at me. I'm the Chad now.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Both are average in appearance but neither are median in appearance, which is the actually important metric with the obesity epidemic. Median men still have zero issue getting laid.

[–]reluctantly_red0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I can guarantee that barring social issues above average men have zero issue getting laid.

If by above average you mean about 80th percentile (i.e. in the range most women would even consider) then yes. However, an objectively average 50th percentile guy is likely to only hook up occasionally.

[–]whopbopaloobop0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh good lord, stop doing math and go to a fucking bar and talk to people.

[–]reluctantly_red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's still early on the west coast. I will be at the bar later (with my GF BTW).

[–]whopbopaloobop0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. Do a carbomb for me.

[–]carefreevermillionLook at me. I'm the Chad now.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think everyone phrases it wrong. Average men are overweight. Median men are the actual 5's of the world, and absolutely can get laid.

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

how do women underestimate mens attractiveness? what do you think "attractiveness" is exactly

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men overestimate their abilities -- women overestimate their physical attractiveness.

[–]quicklogaccountI claim to cause RPs to feel blue5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No. "Chad" is a term used by men to point out, to other men, that women have sexual desire and get horny too. Basically, to imply "Well, she isn't very sexual for you, but she needs to use pads to prevent wetting her pants around some Chad".

Butt hurt people will always be butt hurt. Incels will always whine.

The most effective way you have to disarm a whole class is to convince them they have a right, that they are entitled to something. On the split second you get them to believe it, they cross their arms, stop putting effort to achieve whatever is it, and start picketing to have their right recognized and the thing given to them. If you convince them you're the only one that will give it to them, they'll justify whatever you do and will support you no matter what atrocities you speak.
I wish I knew your politics better to give you American examples, but I'll go with House of Cards and assume teachers are like there around you, because they seem to be like that everywhere. Convince teachers they deserve better pays and they'll stop trying to produce more and be better, and start picketing. Tell them "socialism solves it" and they'll support Stalin if they must. Or Trump. Or Satan. They'll take year long classes and learn how to convince kids that Stalin is right so Stalin gets elected in a generation and GIVES them what is their right but they won't leave their jobs and look for higher paying ones.

Incels, for some various reasons, developed a belief that they have the right to a romantic life, contrary to all evidence they see and support pointing out to competition for mating among humans. Once they developed this belief, they crossed their arms and started picketing. Their capacity to change and achieve what they want was put to sleep, instead they'll fight to have their right to romance recognized, and have sex given to them by whoever is keeping all the sex away from them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sheeiiitt. That's so true.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol well you're into something. Chad is stupid term. But useful too.

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Chad is just the term for a man who finds casual sex with ease. A man can be a Chad for finding women who want casual sex just like he does and aren’t expecting any kind of relationship out of him. Nothing about the term connotes that he is only finding women who wish they could have relationships with him but can’t because he ghosts them.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing about the term connotes that he is only finding women who wish they could have relationships with him but can’t because he ghosts them.

You say that, but that is exactly the assertion that I see every day from red and black and purple flaired users in here.

[–]carefreevermillionLook at me. I'm the Chad now.2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No, Chad is an idealized version of the guy who stole your girl. He's always taller, always funnier, always more built, and never commits.

[–]Offhisgame0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So he doesnt exist? Even 8s get their girls stolen or get broken up with or ghosted. Even 10s. If you have numbers sure maybe you dont care. But it does happen

[–]carefreevermillionLook at me. I'm the Chad now.1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He doesn't exist, he's the archetypal version of the guy who stole your girl, just like the Devil is the archetype of evil

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse5 points6 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Mate competition over females goes toxic. And in other news people driving leads to deadly car crashes.

The real problem here goes way below the misogyny of "Chad" vs "Stacy". The real problem is mate competition by males over females. When men compete over women the shit is bound to hit the fan in all sorts of directions and in many smelly chunks, incel revolution rhetoric being only one chunk of shit hitting the fan. Competing over females is inherently toxic. It's up to men to stop competing over women, not women to submit to any sort of "make women do whatever" ideology.

If only incels would realize this. Men aren't "nothing but victims" in all this. We do have some say in our own fates.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Are men really competing for females or for only the top females?

[–]sketch1620003 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Men are competing for most women because 1.) Men do not share women. 2.) Having any woman (to yourself) is better than no woman. 3.) Men are thirsty and have low standards so the proportion of women that are completely unable to participate in the dating market is vanishingly small.

Women are competing for top men because 1.) Women would rather get a cat than settle with an undesirable man. 2.) Women have high standards and so the proportion of men that are undesirable is relatively high. 3.) Women are willing to, however begrudgingly, share the top men.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes, men put far more value on heterosexual companionship than women do. We could instead just do prostitutes and porn and declare that some women are undesirable and porn/prostitutes are a better alternative. But muh biologaaaah is the usual lame argument that is used to say why we can't do that.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If prostitution was legal more men would use them

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The typical incel reply to “why don’t you just got to a pro” is “that doesn’t count.” “I don’t want to pay for it.”

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am not talking about incels. Yes, I was in a situation where I could use a prostitute with an ease. I chose not to though.

[–]the_calibre_cat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The best reply is "because it's not about the sex, it's about the validation.". I want to be wanted, it's not just about getting my dick wet.

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Women are willing to, however begrudgingly, share the top men.

Clarify please. Some TRPs say this and legit mean that Chad has a harem following him everywhere. I take it be more subtle, like if I’m married to a handsome partner in a law firm who brings in $2m a year, I might be more inclined to forgive his cheating than if hubby is a balding trucker with $27 in his savings account — even if I’m not conscious of it.

[–]sketch1620000 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes this, but I was actually thinking more along the lines of the side chick, since the main partner is usually kept in the dark about the infidelity for as long as possible. Some women will knowingly be the side ho to a very attractive and/or powerful man who's already committed (think Monica Lewinsky, Stormy Daniels, Marilyn Monroe, just to stick with US Presidents for example.)

Anecdotally, it seems that men are less willing to engage in/be content with that strategy, but I could be wrong, so I'm actually interested to hear other perspectives on it.

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Monica Lewinsky, Stormy Daniels

were after money and personal gain. That doesn’t really have anything to do with attraction or SMV — poor men without power can’t do anything for a gold digger/ social climber so why would she go after one? It’s not man sharing because “OMG he’s hot!” it’s man sharing because “i fuck him I can get a job anywhere I want” (in Monica’s case) and “if i fuck and bribe him, I can quit doing milf porn.”

Marilyn Monroe

Ok, but I suspect she actually loved JFK and had some notion that they could be together after he left the White House. You have to understand that in previous generations, women were strung along by married men a lot — men far less attractive and powerful than JFK.

men are less willing to engage in/be content with that strategy

See my last comment. I always thought every man’s dream is a loving wife and hot side chick(s). I’m wrong?

[–]sketch1620000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s not man sharing because “OMG he’s hot!” it’s man sharing because “i fuck him I can get a job anywhere I want” (in Monica’s case) and “if i fuck and bribe him, I can quit doing milf porn.”

I don't think there's a need for some kind of purity test, though. I'm operating under the under the pillosphere understanding that money and status are a part of female sexual strategy. That gold diggers are coldly utilitarian about it doesn't, in actual practice, refute the simple fact that (some) women are willing to share high-status men.

See my last comment. I always thought every man’s dream is a loving wife and hot side chick(s). I’m wrong?

You're not wrong, but what I meant was the reverse...it seems less likely that men would be willing to remain a sidepiece to an attractive woman. As in, I think it would be harder for a woman, however attractive, to build a reverse harem because guys aren't as willing to "share" one woman knowingly. Although, as I think of it, a group of sexless beta orbiters might fill that kind of space.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

  1. I do.

  2. No it isn't, clearly you've never been in a toxic abusive relationship.

  3. You say "no standards", but it is likely just a case of "different standards". I like chubby girls. I date chubby girls. I have high standards, but they're different standards from yours. I'd take one of the girls I'm into over one of the girls you're probably into because she's actually sexier to me. Maybe the idea that most people probably have different standards and preferences from yours just didn't occur to you though.

[–]sketch1620000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You say "no standards", but it is likely just a case of "different standards". I like chubby girls. I date chubby girls. I have high standards, but they're different standards from yours. I'd take one of the girls I'm into over one of the girls you're probably into because she's actually sexier to me. Maybe the idea that most people probably have different standards and preferences from yours just didn't occur to you though.

...What?

I meant that men's standards are less narrow than women's because we tend to be more eager for it. You seem to think I was insulting your personal preferences somehow? Sorry if I came off that way...

(I think chubby girls are hot, too)

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well theyre not competing for the bottom females, obviously.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah men want only the top 20%

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well said.

[–]Capt_Of_The_Inferno4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

An absolutely fair criticism. "Chad" is a completely relative descriptor. A guy I might refer to as a Chad, based on how he compares to me, might not be considered a Chad by another guy. It's all relative to our own perceived weakness and not something that can be measured objectively.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So why blame women for liking Chad?

[–]Capt_Of_The_Inferno6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I don't. If we're being honest, we're all hoping to find that person who brings the best of everything to the table that we can reasonably match up with. Both genders aim high. But one gender arguably places more of their self-worth in the opinions of the other gender, thus resulting in groups like butthurt incels.

The key for men is to stop basing such a large percentage of their own self-worth on the opinions of women they're chasing. Easier said than done, of course.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

When you say "many men have expanded the definition of Chad to include any man worth dating", you are talking about incels. They are the only people who do this. If you place any value or importance on the opinions of incels, you're gonna have a bad time.

From a red perspective, the only men any women find worth dating are in the top 20%, even if they themselves are bottom 20. Again, incels will blame women for this. The red-pilled will try to become part of the top 20%. Blaming women for hypergamy is like blaming a baby for shitting himself and throwing up on your shirt. It's just what they do.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And men only want the top 20% of women

[–]the_calibre_cat3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Except they don't, that's bullshit. The argument is, women are pickier than men while giving men more shit about being picky, which is hypocritical bullshit. Men are definitely less picky and admit it, women are ruthlessly picky and insist that they're just into a guy for "his great personality" or some other bullshit romantic platitude when they really just dig his height, musculature, full head of hair and thick pipe.

Which is fine, but say so. If you're gonna try and pretend you're this really nice egalitarian romantic, you should be called out on it.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha no. If I believed I was in the top 20%, I would only want the top 20% for an LTR, but I would go top 40 for a plate/fuckbuddy, and much lower for a ONS. And that's not top 20% of women aged 22-30; that's all women. Being a working-class guy in my mid-40s, and far too lazy to lift and looksmax, the top 50-60% of women are out of my league. I think I could pull the top 20% my age or older, but those are definitely not in the top 20% of all women.

Us guys in the middle quintile are happy with middle-quintile women for LTRs. Top women tend to be high-maintenance, and nobody really wants to be that fat sitcom guy with the hot wife; you are just waiting for her to realize she can do better.

I would really like to bang the top 1% of women. All 30 million or so, to be honest. Unfortunately, that only gives me 2-3 seconds over fifty years to please each one, and many would age out before I could get to them. A logistical impossibility, even if every one of them wanted to jump my bones. Realistically, I will never land a top one-percenter, and that's okay. I never expected to, unlike women who all think they deserve an actual Prince Charming.

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I have never seen the term "Chad" used in any of the ways you are describing, except the first one.

Think of it this way though: The Top 10% of men have most of the casual sex (this has been supported by several sources, I'm on mobile though so I won't link them). Chad is one of those men but not someone who worked hard for it through self improvement but one who was is a natural).

[–]trail221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The issue is that often when women complain abotu the men they are with, there are plenty of men (OF the type who complain) who do not lack these qualities.

So instead of sayign that her boyfriend doesnt listen to her, she could be sayign none of the guys who will listen are 6 foot, white guys...

Men are honest when they say they want someone who is not overweight, women are less honest when they say they just want a nice guy...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree that a lot of reddit men whine about Chad, but still....

If you continually get rejected/ghosted by men, it's because you're shooting out of your league. It's not because he's an asshole.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No

[–]Asterix883 points4 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Chad is an easy excuse for men not to improve themselves.

[–]ArrysRed Pill4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Chad is a goal for men to strive for, whether they actually achieve it or not. Basic RP maintains this.

Lift. Eat well. Approach women, fail, learn, fail better, eventually succeed.

[–]Asterix88 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

RP is bullshit. Listen to sublimemongrel and ginsmokelies instead.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lifetimes spent listening to blue-pill advice is what put men in the situations that led them to the red pill. Why would anyone want to go back to pedestalizing, oneitis, "be yourself" and all that nonsense? To go back to being dead-bedroomed, cheated on, or just plain unsuccessful?

Edit: the deleted comment to which I replied said RP is bullshit, and we should all listen to two of our resident blue ladies instead (I forgot which two were named). They have Chadly husbands, so clearly they are the best people to advise men who are not Chad how to get high-quality women. Step one: be Chad. Step two: get women. Thanks. Never would have thought of that.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Pedestalizing is bad, yeah, but I have never been so sexually successful as since I started "being myself". Humans are attracted to confident authenticity.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If "yourself" is authentically confident, or confidently authentic, then that should work like a charm. If you have a deep-seated lack of confidence, say from a childhood filled with ridicule for your inadequacies, it will work less well. The same if you catch shit every time you are authentic, so you learn to put up a front.

Blue-pill men are as solipsistic as any woman. Either high naturals or very fortunate in other ways, you cannot comprehend that there are men who don't have it so easy. Humans are attracted to attractive humans, and confident authenticity doesn't hurt.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Confidence or lack thereof is not who you are though, it's just how you think about yourself. I'm confident because I decided to be. It's something I have developed over many years. Once I got good at just being me, I looked at myself and decided I like who I am regardless of what anyone else thinks, that is confidence. It hasn't been an easy road.

I grew up being ridiculed and bullied and put up very high walls and lots of masks to protect myself. I actually got into a lot of early PUA and proto-RP stuff in high school, I could have ended up a TRP or angry incel fairly easily. I started down that road more than I like to think about. When I left to go to college I decided I was going to start over. I started tearing down my walls and throwing away my masks, I let myself be myself, and I found a lot of people responded to authenticity. I found groups of other nerds and weirdos, and discovered that if I'm just me, some people won't like me, but the people who do will usually be people I actually want to hang out with. I still lacked confidence but I had discovered authenticity. Confidence took longer, it was the last thing I faked, until one day (well after college) I realized I wasn't faking. I really liked myself.

So write me off as a "natural" who can't possibly understand if you want. I don't give a shit.

...but you're wrong.

[–]William_HoweI judged the difficulties too great.[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No witch hunting.

[–]Asterix880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

isn't this more witch worshipping?

[–]ArrysRed Pill0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I’ve never heard of either of those two things. Care to give a quick tl;dr of what they are?

[–]Asterix88 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

they are users here. godesses with their chad husbands......or should i say chadsbunds.

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you okay?

[–]Asterix880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

yes.

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or a target for self imprivement

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This too.

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

To other men, Chad is a good looking average dude in a god job. 

Chads job is completely irrelevant lol most are broke bartenders, musicians etc

Then you blame us for dating a guy worth dating. You should have dated a guy who is a poor NEET! He would have appreciated you! You should have gone for that disabled guy in a wheelchair! He would have loved you for who you are! You should have gone for the morbidly obese guy! Lower your standards!

Nah that's fine by me hold out for bodybuilders with fashion sense you can get in line behind the girl I shot down last week who was creeping on me and my gf from across the smoke circle last night

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

See? There’s no in between! You’re either a disabled guy in a wheelchair/ obese guy/ poor NEET or a bodybuilder with fashion sense. There literally is no in between at all.

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I was in between pre trp. Good job, solid beta value. My results didn't go up a bit from looksmaxing, they went up exponentially. People talk about Chad so much because women are tripping over themselves running for a chance at that high smv dick all kinds not just bimbos. Women are like the spoiled 6 year old with 200 toys, the only one they want is the one they can't have

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe don’t expect women to come to you. You need to talk to them and befriend them and ask them on dates.

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah I did. They shot me down. Now they come to me

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So if they come to you why are you so resentful?

[–]whopbopaloobop0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, there is. Stop getting life experience from the internet.

[–]the_calibre_cat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no in between, the men in between are mostly invisible. If you're in between, you might get a lay every few months or years, but you're not getting shit regularly unless you manage to get a relationship... or you're a Chad.

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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

This seems to be happening more and more lately. It wasn't the original intent behind the Chad archetype, but it seems to have been co-opted for this purpose (granted, seemingly more by incels/black pillers than RP). You were ghosted? You were hit? Your husband likes to annoy you by switching the music on your Google Home from the other room*? Well, that's what you get for going after Chad!

Chad has become a thought-terminating cliche and a way for certain types on this sub to feel like they've won. It also feeds into the "betas are wonderful effect". No average or unattractive guy would be self-interested to the detriment of a woman; only Chad does that!

*Yes I have been told by a guy on this sub that my husband is an alpha Chad asshole for goofing around with the music on my Google Home. Apparently having literally any personality at all makes a guy Chad.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Chad has become a thought-terminating cliche and a way for certain types on this sub to feel like they've won

++

[–]Asterix881 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

wonderful

[–]LyaninaBlue Pill8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If a woman here is sexually attracted to her SO or implies he is anything but a doormat he has to be Chad.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Chad" used to be the conventionally attractive traditionally masculine football team captain or fraternity president. Quite often he was upper-middle-class and had lots of things easy - his daddy had bought him a sports car and had a good job lined up for him after college graduation. Now, "Chad" is "Any man who doesn't struggle mightily in dating, sex, and love."

[–]PennnyLameMade a margarita once4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well to be fair, they claim anything they can to insult any women posting here. I have been told my husband is Chad because I make more money than him but also that I have chosen to make more money than him as a way to control and abuse him. Whatever works for the “male honor” narrative.

[–]PennnyLameMade a margarita once2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It also feeds into the "betas are wonderful effect". No average or unattractive guy would be self-interested to the detriment of a woman; only Chad does that!

This is even more exacerbated by the conflation of beta and omega...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Indeed! Good point.

[–]Asterix881 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

brilliant post, your majesty.

[–]wracky272RPG's are fun7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I feel bad for the guys I know that are actually named Chad-- they didn't ask for any of this.

[–]lefactorybebe4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right? I watched a show last night and a character was named chad. This was all I could think about lol.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My best friend's other best friend is named Chad and he's actually an asshole Chad. It makes me laugh every time I see him.

He got married though and he's mellowed out a lot. He's still Chad, but he's less of a dick.

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

“Chad is a stupid term that men use to shame women for NOT liking THEM.”

FTFY

Oh and literally no one outside of RP/incel-land talks about Chads.

[–]Cho_AssmilkArrogant RP S.O.B.0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Chad is the guy who your wife/gf has eyes for and she is going to fuck if you don't keep your game tight

edit: essentially the RP boogeyman

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Chad is the guy who used to beat up TRPs in high school.

[–]Cho_AssmilkArrogant RP S.O.B.0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

And Stacey is the girl who used to fuck TBPs boyfriends in high school

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Not really.

But are you admitting 80/20 is bullshit? Because if average BP guys were screwing Stacys, then that theory goes right out the window.

Nice try though, brah. LMAO

[–]Cho_AssmilkArrogant RP S.O.B.0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I think my metaphors went over your head

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

No you just failed to close.

[–]Cho_AssmilkArrogant RP S.O.B.0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You take all the terms and theories to literal; as fo most BPs. You fail to understand the underlying motive for RP is to open mens eyes to the reality of female nature. It's not about the truth of the content so much as its about waking men up and getting them to a position where they can judge and execute their actions out of their own frame and not from that of a feminized frame.

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not the one you need to tell to stop being literal. It’s your peeps who think 80% of men die virgins, 100%!of husbands are betas being cucked, all women fuck sociopathic ex cons cuz dark triad, etc.

[–]the_calibre_cat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The metaphor is bad, B.P.ers aren't getting Stacy. Chad is.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s the incel types who rage over “Chad.” They have had more of an influence here as of late.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have been told by several guys on here that I am Chad because I have casual sex. Like...ever. Or because my partners are enthusiastic and enjoy sex with me. And if their definition of Chad is more complicated, I am told that I must just be a Chad but don't know it because only Chad can have casual sex easily. I've even been accused of lying and understating my attractiveness because only Chad can have sex like I do.

Rather than admitting that maybe non-Chad guys can get laid, they just came up with a circular definition:

"Men who get enthusiastic and/or casual sex are Chad. Therefore only Chad gets enthusiastic and/or casual sex. QED"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know a Chad when I see one. Don't have to spell it out for me.

[–]washington_breadstixM'gtow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Chad" is a metaphor for the type of guy who draws envy from other men due to how naturally he achieves sexual success.

Because the basis is envy, that makes Chad somewhat situational and subjective. Any guy who slays with the women that you want, and with whom you struggle to get even a single date, is going to be Chad in your mind. He's drowning in the kind of pussy that you're hopeless at getting. He'll steal your girl without a second though. You know that cutie you've been working on for months? He'll swoop in and bang her in one day.

The ideal "Chad" is just a boogeyman in the minds of straight men. But there are actual, real-life males who are approximations of that ideal. They exist. In a pragmatic sense, they are Chad.

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

So basically you're telling me red pill men are attractive and I should continue with my Chad Quest. In other news, yeah I know hot girls want alpha Chads, not blue pill beta Billies. Water is wet, and always will be.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I guess to you chad means “employed and average looking”

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You were talking about above average men. Men that average women are not in a "league" of.

[–]PhotosyntheticChad0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I would say that Chad is a very specific type of Male. Chad is white, Chad is tall, Chad has hunter eyes, Chad is healthy, Chad is very conventionally attractive (facial symmetry, strong jaw), Chad is confident.

Not every man in the top 20% of men is a Chad, but all Chads are in the top 20% of men.

There are men who are not Chad that can become Chad by losing weight and becoming healthy, but they must already be tall and have conventially attractive bone structure underneath any flab or face fat.

[–]Willow-girlSuffering from bovarian oppression0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. My neighbor back home was swimming in pussy, but he wasn't tall or especially good-looking; he was just intelligent, ambitious and had game.

[–]PhotosyntheticChad0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn’t say anything about pussy. I described the characteristics of Chad. Your friend is short and not attractive, he isn’t Chad.

Chad doesn’t have a monopoly on pussy (contrary to popular belief).

I said, not all top 20% men are Chads, but all Chads are top 20%. This is in terms of attractiveness. Just because one is attractive does not mean you have any ‘game’, intelligence or especially know how to (or want to) chase tail all the time. Although it makes it easier.

You friends has to put in more effort than Chad would for the same outcome. That doesn’t mean that Chad is even trying.

[–]Willow-girlSuffering from bovarian oppression0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn’t say anything about pussy. I described the characteristics of Chad. Your friend is short and not attractive, he isn’t Chad.

Isn't the definition of Chad "swimming in pussy"? This guy always had a good-looking woman on his arm ... often different ones from week to week, lol. Not skanks, either; he generally ran with nurses and teachers. His exploits were legendary in those parts, which were generally Christian and conservative.

Having watched him in action for awhile, I'm convinced any man can be Chad, regardless of looks ... he just needs the right attitude and the confidence to approach.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. And as a woman I can say that in any crowd (especially at a bar or other social situation in which people are there to mingle) there will be some women who are DTFl; they're just waiting for a halfway decent-seeming man to work up the courage to approach them. Be that man.

[–]darksoldierkPurple Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is completely off topic and I do apologize, But your argument sounds very familiar to an argument I often make about the word "rape". it's used often but doesn't really have a definition. Just a term that women use when men make them feel uncomfortable. Funny thing is, "Chad" isn't backed up by the law, but "rape" is.

Chad is that guy that had it figured out before we did. He's that guy who didn't fall for the decades of mothers, sisters, school teachers and girlfriends telling them they should "just be nice" and "just be themselves".

In regards to your point about handicapped/obese etc etc. I remember being forced to sit through, what did they call them back then? Shit I forgot, remember in school, they'd get us all in the gym to make an announcement? Well, I remember a few times they would round up the boys and they would bring in some organization like MAAD or something (basically old, fat, ugly women) to tell us that we are selfish for caring about what's on the outside and that we need to love women for what's on the inside. That's public schooling for ya. Women weren't saying "well, it's morally wrong to brainwash little boys into being attracted to women who they wouldn't otherwise be attracted to" now were they?

Anyway, point is, when the tables were turned and women needed men for support, boy were brainwashed from an early age by women in order to make them more accepting of women who were not really date-able. Men were expected to date and marry those people, and they did. Now obviously I don't think that's morally right, to brainwash people like that, but I'm just saying that women didn't seem to have any issues doing it when it was to their benefit.

Men blame women when they date a guy who's clearly an idiot. Let me tell you a story, A buddy of mine is 28 years old. He's never had a job for more than a year, and he's only had 3 jobs in the last 12 years. He's broke as fuck, lives at home, and he uses his parents money to feed his alcohol addiction. But he is damn good looking. Like, he's fit (though he's never gone to the gym in his life), blonde, blue eyes, tall -- the whole nine yards. He has good social skills, can keep a conversation going (I think he and I kept a conversation going about eggs for like an hour, I don't even know how) Every girl he's dated, he ghosted, and they all complained about it. Honey, you chose to date a guy that couldn't even commit to a job, not even a career, just a job, what did you expect? Meanwhile, my other buddy who has worked his ass off his whole life, has his shit together, has a good job, never complains, does everything that needs to be done, volunteers his time and is basically an all-around good human being has only gotten 2 dates in the last 5 years despite putting himself out there constantly. Is he deformed? no. is he ugly? I don't think so, I mean he isn't "the whole nine yards" but he's just average. He's a little skinny I guess. When you are on the sidelines of that shit, watching the girls go nuts for the guy that doesn't give a flying shit about them, and also seeing the guy that's lonely as fuck and just wants a connection with someone, but can't find it because women don't even give him a chance, you start to think "you know what, it's women's faults for wanting chad".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As far as I understand. Chad = guy with multiple attractive women fighting over him at once. It's not descriptive of any specific personality traits or physical phenotype. And yes most men claiming they're a "Chad" online is definitely not one in real life.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's almost as though being salty at not being good enough is part of the human condition, just like preferring the best looking sexual partner is part of the human condition... whoa...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whenever I say I don’t want a NEET or someone poor I get called a gold digger.

[–]daveofmarsFor Martian Independence0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is, no one agrees what Chad means.

Familiarize yourself with linguistics a little bit, because this is not a problem. Who says that any term needs to have 100% agreed upon consensus? Different terms can mean different things to different people and yet those terms are still useful when communicating.

When you say "Chad", 99% of the people here know what you're talking about, therefore the word is useful and carries conceptual weight.

[–]newName543456went volcel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What if I told you you can be a Chad in one situation, then whimpering beta in the next one?

[–]Transmigratory0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had a feeling my e-bae made this thread :)

Chad is merely the term to describe guys women go for... yet deny they go for.

[–]Entropy-7Old Goat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Stupid terms" are considered such by stupid people who don't understand the context nor conotation or real world phenomona that they are oblivious to.

[–]Entropy-7Old Goat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

PS:

I DON'T BLAME WOMEN

THEY JUST **ARE**

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Imo a Chad is a man who has the sexual options of a 5-6/10 woman. By this definition, I am Chad, but I am neither 6 foot tall nor white

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

You’re persian and a millionaire though

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I have never spent a nickel on a woman. I even split the bill when we get coffee for 4 dollars. My parents money has nothing to do with my success

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

But just being a millionaire is enough for women to go on dates.

Also persian men are known to be good at grooming themselves. I am sure you don’t look like rob Kardashian and look more like faz3

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

But just being a millionaire is enough for women to go on dates.

  1. They don't know my parents are millionaires

  2. I live in an area where my neighbors are multi millionaires. Almost half of the women I have had sex with come from families that are richer than mine

I'm well groomed because I have to be. Without exaggerating, if I dont groom, my beard will grow into my chesthair, my eyebrows will become a unibrow and also connect to my beard hair. Thank God I dont have a hairy back

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Same except for not to that extreme. If I get married I don’t want a ring. I want laser hair removal instead. It’s the wedding gift that will literally make our marriage much happier for life. No body hair = happy husband = happy wife.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

That's why I love Swedish women. Nothing but blonde vellus hairs below their eyelashes

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

faz3

I look similar but with a longer beard and without an Arab nose. My eyes are slightly more deepset/covered too

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

But you are incredibly cheap.

[–]TRPAndNofapGotMeLaid 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Yup :^ )

[–]FI-Boy 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

That's why everyone hates them. Good job. You'll get the gas.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Being loved by everyone ranks far down in my goals in life

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Chad is a man who has the sexual options of a 5-6/10 woman

TIL 5/6 women have harems.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

They can have harems. Emphasis on options

[–]poppy_bluAARP sent me a birthday card0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

🤦‍♂️

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

An average to slightly above average woman can absolutely have a group of guys to have sex with

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

:^ )

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