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If not than the Redpill or Pua, where else should nerds go to get advice on how to get casual sex? (self.PurplePillDebate)

submitted by RageQuitNoRespawn

Yes nerds want casual sex. They want casual sex with lots of women. They see others doing it and want it too.

But I don't think women care about men getting causal sex because they don't try to help them. They give terrible advice like be yourself or tell you it's not a worthwhile goal.

The redpill cares. The redpill cares about mens superficial wants and tries to help them achieve it. But for some reason women have a problem with the redpill and want men to stop going there. Look at the blue pill ..an entire subreddit dedicated to mocking men who go to the redpill for advice. But yet the subreddit does not give any advice to these men.

If not than the Redpill or Pua, where else should nerds go to get advice on how to get casual sex?

also

Why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex and mock them for trying?


[–]hoeslutdog47 points48 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Tbp posters don't think nerds should be able to have sex. You're supposed to 'get over it' and not complain while they have all the fun.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Just like you care about those poor, ugly, 2 cent whores that can't dig out enough 'resources' from males right?

All those other people get to have fun and raise families. It's not fair she was born hideous, she says.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

ok i get lol. we're all hypocrites

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ikr. And reddit loves to shit on the redpill and tell men to not go there ....but yet they don't care about the nerds enough to give them advice. Like seriously ..reddit collective hates the one place that actually cares about men superficial and shallow wants and desires .

[–]762RiflemanNeither2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's always r/hookers r/escorts r/sexworkers LOL

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Most TBP posters are nerds who have sex.

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Including you

[–]TrueRustyShacklefordOD'ed on rainbow pills18 points19 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

They should buy my book, it's just $19.99 and has all the secrets right there!

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What about your super cool t-shirt with the super cool logo that will make me super cool?

[–]SadDoggo452 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Jokes aside, you have to start somewhere. First step in being good at something is being bad at something.

And as OP said, there are a lot of men who lack experience, or have a lot of bad experiences.

[–]TrueRustyShacklefordOD'ed on rainbow pills0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Getting female friends, and really only as friends, intentionally choose unattractive girls if that makes it easier, is a good first step. Then it's on to improving your own looks (low body fat, good haircut and healthy skin are essential) and studying up on body language.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

[–]AlanHalworthPurple Pill / BP++59 points60 points  (34 children) | Copy Link

Why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex and mock them for trying?

Women don't have a hard time getting casual sex if they want it. So they have exactly the amount of casual sex they want to have, and no more. Any plan to help men have more casual sex would necessarily involve pressuring women to have more casual sex than they want to have. Women don't want to be pressured into having casual sex. They already feel more pressured than they would like. This explains why women don't feel especially interested in helping men to get more casual sex than they are already getting.

[–]Jammerly1Snatching TRP Bald since 20174 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but we have to have sex with men and men suck at sex. It’s like craving hot pizza fresh out of the oven and instead getting mostly day old rubbery pizza warmed up in a dirty microwave.

[–]PhucCheet 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Any plan to help men have more casual sex would necessarily involve pressuring women to have more casual sex than they want to have.

Not true, especially if they provide men with an alternate strategy that does not involve pressuring. Right now men who want casual sex have to learn from RP and PUA, so they learn to pressure women. If women provide a better way, many of these men would stop pressuring them and switch. These nerds just don't know better.

Men using the new strategy may just replace some suboptimal casual encounters with other casual encounters. If there are guys genuinely interested in learning how to be better for casual sex with women, these guys might care about her pleasure and her needs more than shitty partners they're have casual sex with now, leading to higher quality casual sex experiences for the women who do want them.

The best way to get what you want is to tell others how to give it to you, not just to troll RP because some guys are doing it wrong.

[–]aznphenix17 points18 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

What alternative strategy would there be? A large part isn't that women don't want casual sex with unattractive men, they just don't want casual sex. Period. The women that do, already have it. There's no way to increase the number of women to have casual sex with.

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

yes, 99% of women could easily go out and find a willing dick if they wanted to get laid. but the number of women who could easily get high quality dick is significantly smaller. there are only so many top 1% turboChads out there. some women might be willing to wait in line for their turn, but most women interested in casual sex are going to lower their expectations slightly in order to find a guy who is good enough and easily available. keep on going down the line until at some point women start to decide that they would rather just sit at home and flick their bean instead of fucking whatever mediocre dude is available.

yes, those women could get dick but decide they don't want casual sex. but for a lot of those women, that decision is based on the conditions of the current environment. if you change those conditions, their decisions can change too.

in the current environment, about 3/4 of men are either out of shape or socially retarded losers. or both. if all those guys suddenly turned into sexy cool Chads who are good at sex, a lot of those women who aren't interested in casual sex now would suddenly be a lot more interested in it.

i'm sure there are some women who aren't interested in casual sex no matter what. but a lot of women aren't interested in casual sex right now because the quality of the available men is so low.

[–]captainVSI1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s considering those women have a positive self image and aren’t insecure. Society has made certain that the majority of women are insecure. That’s why some PUA tactics work. That’s what push/pull activates. In theory yes, women hold the gate keys to sex but if she’s insecure like most women, she won’t take advantage of that asset.

[–]PhucCheet 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

The women that do, already have it. There's no way to increase the number of women to have casual sex with.

You don't have to increase the number of women having casual sex. New men can just displace other men. The women who are already having casual sex aren't satisfied with 100% of their partners. Many of them are stuck with PUA guys. Help those women have better casual sex by helping other men give them what they want and find them.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

New men can just displace other men.

So you don't actually care about solving the "problem", you're fine with the portion of men not getting the casual sex they want, you just want to be one of the men who does.

[–]aznphenix0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

What guarantees that the new crop of men are any better?

[–]PhucCheet 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Because the new crop would be following women's suggestions for casual sex (which would include parts of what make the women have better experiences too) instead of a PUA guide for how to con your way into sticking your dick in something and run off.

It changes from a zero sum game to win-win.

[–]aznphenix1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How are the women going to be able to tell apart new from old crop* is the better question. Unless you're already talking about FWB which is the kind of casual sex where you'd find those kinds of relationships. At which point, I think that still circles back around to questions of populations and probabilities more so than there's a shortage of 'good men' for women to have casual sex with.

[–]Talkytalktalk0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy Link

But you could be another notch on a ladies belt. Duh.

[–]aznphenix0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

What does that have anything to do with what I said.

[–]Talkytalktalk0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

It means there doesn't have to be more women having sex, it just means the loose ones could have sex with more dudes.

[–]aznphenix0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Why does the woman want more notches.

[–]Talkytalktalk0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm just saying... it doesn't have to mean there are More women having sex. The whys are a different discussion.

[–]aznphenix0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would a woman decide to try rando extra notches than keep having sex with a guy she found that's good (fwb or a relationship).

[–]Talkytalktalk-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to ask the hos.

[–]Talkytalktalk-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

More 'gasms?

[–]aznphenix1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

How is that guaranteed or even more likely.

[–]Talkytalktalk-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

More sex equals the possibility of more orgasms.

[–]Ordinate1Brown pill - Eat shit and die, motherfucker!1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, it's that women only have casual sex with men who are above a certain level, while men can be less picky and not have it harm their reputation.

"Oh, she was a pity fuck, huh?" as opposed to, "You had sex with him?!"

Thus high status and/or looks men will get all the casual sex they want, while anyone below the average woman's standard will hardly get any.

[–]Talkytalktalk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not really. Since the general advice is "improve yourself so women want you."

[–]oneprettycoolcat2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why should men care what women want or how they feel?

[–]DemonConsulting4" Dragon8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

But I don't think women care about men getting causal sex because they don't try to help them. They give terrible advice like be yourself or tell you it's not a worthwhile goal.

Clearly the OP cares about why women don't give men advice on how to get more casual sex. The poster above explained why it is the case. Men don't have to care, nor do many of them, otherwise subs like TRP or seduction (where men give other men advice on how to get more sex) wouldn't exist

[–]oneprettycoolcat0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It was a question to the person to whom I responded rather than the OP.

[–]DemonConsulting4" Dragon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Their answer was to OP in this context though

[–]honeypuppy11 points12 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I think the majority of guys trying super hard to get casual sex are doing so out of an unhealthful desire for validation and overcoming their FOMO than an actual evaluation of how enjoyable casual sex is. Stop thinking you have to have a life like Chad the frat bro to be happy. Happiness research consistently shows that close relationships and meaningful work are much more important for long term happiness than constant hedonism.

[–]haleykohrPurple Pill Man19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Stop. Just stop.

You’re one step away from “hey dudes. Sex sucks! Not that great! You’re the weird one for wanting it!’

Pretentious as hell, you’re assuming that everyone hasn’t thought what you suggested. Not everyone needs to be the goddamn robin Williams carpe Diam archetype.

People can’t get sexual or be intimate. They get worried. I’m pretty sure most of her understand their situation better than you ever will.

[–]KRISTAPORZINGA0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i fucking love casual sex

[–]darkmoon091 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

FOMO?

[–]honeypuppy0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Fear of missing out

[–]darkmoon0913 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Gotcha. In that case, don't you think that's a rather...valid concern? I mean, it surely can't be healthy for someone to go for years, decades, of being in a rut where they're unable to attract partners for either causal sex or relationships? as much as people in this sub like to preach that "sex/intimacy isn't a big deal and you shouldn't beat yourself up over it" the fact is that sex/intimacy rather is a big deal because it's such a fundamental part of the human experience. To never/rarely experience that is in some ways never receiving the full human experience which is important for producing a healthy, adjusted human being.

[–]honeypuppy2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Sure, but we're not talking just sex and intimacy, but the grandiose dreams of becoming "Chad" the "alpha slayer" who bangs a hundred women. That's going well beyond trying to get a normal level of sexual experience, and into the level of "probably trying to prove something".

[–]darkmoon093 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

When you word it that way I can sorta see where you're coming from, but my thing is - even if it is about wanting to score as much causal sex as possible for a lot guys, is there anything inherently wrong with that goal? I mean think about, if one can easily attract partners and get causal sex with wide range of women then shouldn't the 'sex/intimacy' be a no-brainer? at that point it would simply be a matter of a guy deciding when he wants to get 'serious' with someone in an LTR after having been with different women and learning/growing from those experiences?

Men. We love sex. We would like to have sex with a lot of different women. That shouldn't be much of a shocker to anyone around here. I'm generalizing of course because there are always exceptions to anything and everything but you get what I mean hopefully. That being said, why shouldn't guys strive to be a 'player' and bang a variety of women? especially since women cheerfully indulge in the cock-carousel themselves. Women enjoy a variety of men, so why can't men want the same thing of women? No one seems to bat an eye when a woman proclaims she just wants to "have some fun" and bang different guys every week, but when man does it it's suddenly such a moral crime - "men are afraid of commitment" and all that other shamming shit. Seriously, if you;re a guy and say that you just want to have causal sex with a lot of different women you run the risk of ostracizing yourself and making yourself appear to be the most shallow piece of shit in the world. And of course hypergamous women never receive this criticism from mainstream/BP society.

[–]honeypuppy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No one seems to bat an eye when a woman proclaims she just wants to "have some fun" and bang different guys every week

Outside of a select few sex-positive liberal feminist circles, "banging different guys every week" will at least very least raise eyebrows.

I'm not saying you definitely should avoid casual sex. Just try to be sceptical of your own motivations for wanting to engage in a lot of it. It'll be similar if you were poor as a kid and were jealous of the flash cars of richer kids, got rich, and then decided you wanted to buy 200 expensive cars. That might be what is sincerely your best decision, but it'd be worth thinking about whether it's an immature attempt to "show up" some people you haven't seen in years.

[–]decoy88Black Male in London1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is my problem with it. Having 30+ ONS isn't really than enjoyable when you break it down unless there's a thrill/validation from simply increasing your n count.

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. I have a healthy ball sack and penis, I'd like to enjoy it while I can. It's no fun to know that you have a penis and cum filled balls but can't use them, while other people can use theirs when they please.

"No longer will our penis's remain flaccid and unused...we WILL get laid!" -American Pie

[–]LifterofThingsDelicate Feminine Flower9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If not than the Redpill or Pua, where else should nerds go to get advice on how to get casual sex?

Nowhere as far as I know.

Why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex and mock them for trying?

Why don't men care that fat chicks can't get men to buy them things and take them to nice dinners, and mock them for trying?

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Men's desire for casual sex with lots of women is threatening to me and I hate it so of course I'm not going to help you. It would be like asking men to help women fuck Chad and find a BB later on.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

wow. this actually makes sense. thanks

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

In the end we all actually hate the idea of casual sex but in this progressive era it’s considered righteous

[–]Neoprime2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't hate casual sex.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The Royal “we” not the scumbag outliers

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Using the Royal "We" might be why you're not getting casual sex.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im not getting casual sex because I don’t want any but I’ve never had a problem there you must be thinking of someone else

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like casual sex and so do most of my partners.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Why do you want casual sex so much?

[–]RageQuitNoRespawn 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

i don't want casual sex as much as i want to know i have options. yes this comes from a place of insecurity. my gf said she feels comfortable cause she knows i'm not a player (shes hinting that i can't get women easily). that hurt. also one day i took a look at her facebook (first time after 11 months together) and she has gotten hundreds of offers for sex since we have been in a relationship . i have gotten zero offers . so i'd like to know that if things didn't work out i wouldn't have to go back to my hand for an extended period of time.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why do you think that she's hinting you can't get other women easily? My boyfriend is not a player, and this is something I deeply respect about him. It says nothing about his attractiveness but rather the choices he made in life and his values.

Maybe you want to be a player?

[–]RageQuitNoRespawn 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

why do i think that? cause she just said it . a player is a guy who can get women easily. players have options like women have options. but i get what you're saying about me misinterpreting. .....

that does not change the fact that i want to know i have options ..this is my first gf so what if it was just dumb luck lol ..if things don't work out how long would it take to find another gf ..things like that yk ...so i just need to work on my attractiveness and increase my social circle through hobbies

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

When women call men a player it is usually a negative thing not a positive thing. Men can have lots of options and not be a player. Being a player means that you are a liar and you trick women into having sex in order to stroke your ego and brag to your buddies later. There is nothing to respect about players. She was thinking that it's your choice not to be a player and this is something she likes about you.

Anyway, I understand what it feels like to be insecure, but I don't think any men get offers for sex on Facebook. So I don't think you are being fair to yourself by comparing your Facebook messages to her.

Are you guys poly or something? Why is she getting so many sex offers?

[–]Neoprime0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

He wants to mimic the High Libido/Sex-Drive of High-T/Alpha males.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

yes internet stranger you totally know my intentions and motivation . you can definitely read my mind

[–]Neoprime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you have a High Libido/Sex-Drive?

[–]Cho_AssmilkArrogant RP S.O.B.3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There are plenty of men who will provide her with resources while accepting a trickle feed of sex. There are plenty of attractive men who will gladly fuck her. That advice is really unnecessary.

is threatening to me and I hate it

Are you afraid that men will trick you into fucking them?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am afraid of how badly I want approval from men and how much I love them, and how little they seem to love me.

[–]Cho_AssmilkArrogant RP S.O.B.6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're staying within you SMV and aren't doing something that causes them to leave, I struggle to see how you can't find love.

[–]762RiflemanNeither1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Men's desire for casual sex with lots of women is threatening to me and I hate it so of course I'm not going to help you. It would be like asking men to help women fuck Chad and find a BB later on."

I've seen threads like that. Always a very 'fun' read.

[–]El_Serpiente_Roja0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

O shit

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino12 points13 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

There is nowhere that nerds should go if their goal is to have casual sex with lots of women, because its never going to happen. They're just going to become angry and bitter when they dump all this effort into something to no true results.

Most sane guys of this type accept that a more realistic goal is a long term relationship with a single woman who they can manage to attract and to just have sex within that framework.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

so nerds should just give up on their dreams and accept mediocrity . The redpill says no. Go to the gym, develop a fun life, sort your mental problems,face rejection and and you'll get casual sex. Sure the redpill has alot of shit advice but it's better than giving up.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The redpill says no. Go to the gym, develop a fun life, sort your mental problems,face rejection and and you'll get casual sex

This is not at all exclusive to RP. Any well-adjusted person could tell you that working on yourself will help you romantically. How this is not intuitive to some people is beyond me.

[–]i_have_a_semicolonPurple Pill Woman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Essentially it's an oxymoron because they are forcing nerds to be less nerdy by doing things like going to the gym

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes, most adults learn at some point that their dreams aren't reality and you adjust accordingly. A fruitless pursuit is a worthless one. I don't believe that a recipe exists for casual sex for everyone.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

well most of the men on the redpill are young adults in college. it's like the only time in there life where it's expected to chase after casual sex

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

When I was in college, serial monogamy was more the norm than lots of casual sex. Casual sex was had for sure but was moreso in between relationships. If you can't attract any women at all even in a relationship context, how tf do you expect them to want to have sex with you casually either.

[–]_eNeF_5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It is more and more common now-a-days for relationships to stem from casual encounters, so it's probably optimal for college age guys to get the know how to get into casual encounters which funnily enough potentially increases the likelihood that they be in a relationship.

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes that's a common relationship route for average and above average people, but ugly people typically don't go that route when getting in relationships.

[–]_eNeF_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What I'm saying, erm typing is that. In this day an age it seems kinda the opposite from the quote below.

If you can't attract any women at all even in a relationship context, how tf do you expect them to want to have sex with you casually either.

Because the trend is transitioning into:

casual -> attempt at monogamy -> serious LTR/Marriage

it's more optimal for men to become the man that can get casual sex because they're more likely to be able to get into relationships. If you have a hard time getting casual sex, you'll potentially have a harder time getting to the relationship stage.

Of course this is only from observation, reading anecdotes, being a bit analytical and reading the psychology 'n bullshit behind "romance"/"love"/dating/sex. I've never really bothered pursuing any of that.

[–]darkmoon0910 points11 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

lol. Good luck getting these nerds to accept their designated position in life when they see Chad slaying pussy left and right without having to offer any form of trade off in return. What's wrong with nerds wanting to have lots of causal sex? non-nerds indulge in it so why are nerds singled out?

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino5 points6 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

They can either accept it or wallow in their own misery, their choice. There's nothing wrong with wanting things you can't have. That doesn't mean you deserve them or will ever get them.

[–]darkmoon097 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

But I'm curious as to why you think nerds are somehow not meant to have causal sex?

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Because girls don't want to fuck them.

There are however socially well adjusted nerdy dudes who have casual sex. Just not with a ton of women and definitely not with very attractive ones. An averagely attractive, non socially retarded nerdy dude can do well with average to below average nerdy girls if he is well connected in the nerd social community in his city. I have some associates like this. Those people tend to just fuck each other. I have a friend who basically fucks his way through anime conventions. The girls he hooks up with tend to be plain looking, overweight girls who like anime and stuff.

[–]CounterintuitiveRam4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

socially well adjusted

Define this.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"Girls don't want to fuck nerds."

"Some nerds that have lots of sex, just not with supermodels."

So is the problem just that nerds don't usually get casual sex with supermodels? Do ordinary looking women not count as casual sex? Or are socially well adjusted nerds not "real" nerds?

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I made a disntinction between average guys with nerdy interests and "nerds" as I think OP was describing them: ugly, poorly adjusted guys with nerdy interests.

And I didn't say they can't bang supermodels. I would say even ordinary women are out of reach for them. They mostly hook up with below average women.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

ugly, poorly adjusted guys with nerdy interests.

They mostly hook up with below average women.

Well...they are themselves below average as you describe them so...makes sense.

[–]Reed_49832 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't get the memo that all nerds are supposed to be ugly, unattractive, etc.

[–]oneandforall 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Supply and demand.

[–]darkmoon090 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

How does that answer my question?

[–]oneandforall 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

There is a low demand for casual sex from nerds, but a high supply. And since the demand is pretty inelastic, most nerds aren't gonna get casual sex.

[–]darkmoon091 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not all nerdy guys want causal sex though. Plenty of nerdy guys would love to LTR a woman but even those women don't want anything to do with nerds.

[–]Morgoff6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If not than the Redpill or Pua, where else should nerds go to get advice on how to get casual sex?

That depends doesn't it. If you only want to fuck model looking women you better be rich or sexy.

Other than that they should just work on their confidence first, keep trying and learn from their mistakes.

Why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex and mock them for trying?

I think some of them mock these men for being whiny or entitled about it. Some others just enjoy mocking anyone I suppose. But it isn't their problem really.

[–]SadDoggo454 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Other than that they should just work on their confidence first, keep trying and learn from their mistakes.

Learning by trial and error is the lowest form of learning, and can't really be applied here. That makes sense for simple, repetitive tasks. Especially here where approaching women has so many variables, that just getting turned down gives you no info or insight.

It's like trying to make pancakes, but you don't know the ingredients or what to do with them. You try something, and it fails miserably - and you have no idea is it to much flour, or to little? did you mix it enough? How hot should the pan be? Did I miss the ingredient? Am I adding to many ingredients?

I think you can agree that having a recepie, even a bad one is better than guessing everything randomly. If you have a bad recepie, you can fine tune it, which is much quicker than learning it yourself.

And that PUA/Trp/seduction communities provide. You have no idea how clueless some men are. Half of the things in seduction forums are probably common sense to a normal man.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman11 points12 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Given that many women do not even care that much about casual sex themselves why would they help nerds get casual sex? Nerds are not gonna get casual sex.

[–]oneprettycoolcat10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women actually love casual sex, just with a very select group of men.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Nerds have SO MUCH sex, casual and otherwise. It's mostly with other nerds though.

If you're a nerd and you only want a socially-aware supermodel, you're going to have a harder time.

[–]CounterintuitiveRam5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What does it mean to be "social-aware". Isn't a nerd socially aware in his own environment? What makes the socially aware supermodel's social awareness superior?

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's really not the point of what I was saying (I have edited the comment). Sure, nerds can be very socially aware in their own circles, but they frequently aren't no matter where they go. Other nerds tend to be more forgiving about that, especially in wholly nerdy spaces like cons and Ren Faires.

[–]El_Tigrex-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The mockery comes from the "how can I do this without losing fat" attitude. You can not be fat and you can find guides everywhere on how to lose weight. Even if it's not valid or doesn't work there's nowhere besides red pill/pua teaching men the steps to have casual sex.

[–]RageQuitNoRespawn 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Ok so they don't care. That's cool. The redpill cares. Why does reddit hate the redpill so much? It's just nerds trying to figure out how to get casual sex. The say redpill is misogynist and manipulative and unhealthy. But they don't try to help the nerds . They just want them to stop reading the redpill. They want them to give up on casual sex . I don't understand .

[–]Orange_Paisley5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you just copying and pasting this into every reply you get?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

just a couple

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Even if "women" or whoever want somebody to not read redpill or stop going to redpill, so? I am not understanding the problem, if I want to look at the cool pictures on Natureisfuckinglit why would I stop because somebody mocked me?

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love that sub!

[–]Orange_Paisley20 points21 points  (31 children) | Copy Link

Women don't care about getting casual sex because they don't "try to help them?" You're absolutely right. I am not going to try to help anyone find casual sex. If I'm into you, I'll have sex with you. I'm not a sex charity.

[–]RageQuitNoRespawn 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Ok so they don't care. That's cool. The redpill cares. Why does reddit hate the redpill so much? It's just nerds trying to figure out how to get casual sex. The say redpill is misogynist and manipulative and unhealthy. But they don't try to help the nerds . They just want them to stop reading the redpill. They want them to give up on casual sex . I don't understand .

[–]Orange_Paisley10 points11 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

It's not so much the casual sex, it's the sense of entitlement. That they somehow "deserve" casual sex and women are villains for not giving it up willy nilly.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I never understood this meme from BP.

If anything RP is the opposite of entitlement. RP dogma is more along the lines of "you're not good enough for casual sex, so go to the gym and work on your career." Advising men into making themselves into the man women want for casual sex is the polar opposite of entitlement.

Can you explain this meme of entitlement here?

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Become the man who's entitled to casual sex.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

Where is the entitlement here?

[–]Orange_Paisley7 points8 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

It's right there, in the phrase "women don't try to help men to get casual sex." Why should I let myself be taken advantage of, or help some man take advantage of another woman just so some dude can get his dick wet?

[–]PhucCheet 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Why does casual sex have to involve taking advantage of someone? Some women do want and enjoy casual sex. If you show a guy how to create a situation that leads to positive, consensual casual sex both enjoy, then that other woman is not getting taken advantage of. If you don't, he's probably going to read RP and take advantage of her. If anything, your knowledge might reduce taking advantage of women, not increase it.

If a guy is desperate to get laid and willing to take advantage of women, he already has dozens of PUA resources to turn to. Womens' advice isn't going to tip the scales towards more advantage-taking.

[–]Orange_Paisley3 points4 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Lying, cheating, using pickup artist tricks, "spinning plates," that sort of thing.

[–]PhucCheet 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Yes, THOSE are examples of taking advantage of women. But those aren't the only ways to have casual sex. Provide an alternate way and it will actually reduce the lying and cheating and PUA shit.

[–]Orange_Paisley3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

By having pity sex with some guy you aren't really into?

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[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women literally do all of these things you mentioned

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Not all women feel taken advantage of, because they can't get enough of casual sex

[–]Orange_Paisley3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

That's fine, if they choose that. They should have a right to choose who they have sex with though, not be pressured or obligated to give up pity sex to a self-proclaimed nerd.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Should men have the right to choose who to approach without being pressured or obligated not to?

[–]Orange_Paisley10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, they can approach whoever they like, as long as they are respectful if they are rejected and don't turn all psycho or stalkery over it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

the nerds aren't saying lower your standards and give us pity sex. they are saying what are you standards for casual so we can meet them. if you say big muscles but not like the rock big we'll do it.

[–]Orange_Paisley9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Some of them are definitely saying that. Hang around on r/niceguys or r/braincels and tell me they aren't.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

lol what can i say...namalt

[–]LimitedAbilities3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How do you feel about welfare, universal health care, etc...? People see no problem claiming entitlement to other people's labor, it's not hard to see how that mentality crosses over to feeling entitled to other people's bodies. Both are obviously ridiculous, but all people are hypocrites when it benefits them.

[–]storffish14 points15 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

If not than the Redpill or Pua, where else should nerds go to get advice on how to get casual sex?

their friends.

if all your friends are just as spergy and virginal as you there's your problem.

why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex and mock them for trying?

why would women care? I don't care about chicks that can't get a sugardaddy (do you?) so I don't see why a woman would give a shit that a guy can't fuck multiple women.

[–]SadDoggo456 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is there a problem with people having similar problems and interests grouping and discussing? That's essentially what PuA is, or subs like /r/seduction

[–]Monkey_Jerk1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

their friends.

My friend: You just gotta banter bro, you gotta be a smart ass to them.

He forgot to add a very important disclaimer though

[–]storffish1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I don't understand this post

[–]Monkey_Jerk4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You said guys can get advice from their friends and that was the extent of the advice I received from a friend who managed to regularly get laid. It wasn't very useful advice is what I'm saying because apparently he's good looking so he could virtually say anything and it would work.

[–]storffish1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

don't go up to your friends and ask them for advice, Jesus you guys need rules for everything. observe how they behave and how women react. watch their body language, their choice of words, go out and drink and lower your inhibitions and try shit out on women. this is schoolyard social skills shit, not calculus.

[–]Monkey_Jerk2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't ask, it was unsolicited advice on a few occasions while we were out drinking.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's another "Only attractive men can get sex" whinge.

[–]Monkey_Jerk3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nope. More like advice from attractive people is almost useless because whatever they do works for them due to the halo effect.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Advice like, "Here is what I did to make myself this attractive, it might work for you too"?

Because that's what most people who are attractive and aware of it seem to offer.

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[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That isn’t the reason many people hate on TRP. Obv I can’t speak for “Reddit”, but the complaints I’ve seen tend to focus on the hate/bitterness/overly negative focus on women that is rampant on the TRP sub. Nobody that I’ve seen cares about nerds wanting to get laid.

[–]storffish7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

nobody gives a shit if nerds want to "learn how to have casual sex," they don't like the bitterness and misogyny and cringey self-promotion that the redpill puts out under the guise of "sexual strategy." why are these nerds expecting internet strangers to "help" them get laid? that seems a lot more emotionally taxing than just making some fucking friends in real life. these nerds sound entitled as fuck.

heres a rule of thumb: if you want to learn to _____, your best bet is to make some friends who already _____. anonymous internet communities who don't know you from Adam are more likely to hurt your cause.

[–]cheriezard1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's not misogyny though. It's reality.

People are shitty. They can be lazy, bad tempered, dishonest, stupid, egocentric, transactional, gross, too sensitive, not sensitive enough, religious, atheist, conservative, liberal, too materialistic, too intellectual and so on and so on.

Men can see that in other men. Whether it's accurate or not, we usually find a way to be legends in our own minds. The ones who need red pill just can't see that the same is true for women. If they were misogynist, they would be making it out as men being superior when they spend a lot of time trashing men (specifically, beta males), too. Since they've built up this Chad Thundercock character, every one of them is by definition a beta male in various stages of progress toward being a good alpha male impostor.

[–]storffish0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

whats the word for this kind of post? hamstering?

[–]cheriezard1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I guess. I am trying to rationalize the practices of a 'bad' group after all. People are still shitty though, women included. You can dress it up in nicer terms like "women are people too" or "nobody wants to be put on a pedestal" but people who don't get this need to have their illusions torn down in explicit terms.

[–]storffish2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, a lot of women are absolute shitheads. so are a lot of men. but telling already insecure guys that all women are toxic and most men (including their former selves) enable them is a recipe for bitterness and self-loathing. It replaces one structured all-or-nothing set of rules for another and leaves no room for these rule-followers to think for themselves.

[–]Princeso_Bubblegum☭ The real red pill ☭9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

why does one need to get casual sex?

for me the entire thing is a nonsensical question

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

we want casual sex. just like women want flings with the attravive 6'4 muscular rich pro athlete ...it's just that women can get their fling

[–]strummingcolorsBlue Pill Man5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We disagree with your premise that you need casual sex to the extent that it requires adopting the tenets of the Red Pill, which is a philosophy that is toxic.

I don't think it's going to be healthy in the long run for you if your experience with the Red Pill damages your perception and creates difficulty connecting to women beyond the transaction of sex.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't really have any issue with RP concepts or men resorting to them. But in the past 4 or so years I've been reading it, it's become pretty mysogynistic, especially the TRP sub. My other issue with it is they leave no room for ambiguity, everything is just black and white. Together, those spawn an unhealthy mentality, especially for disenfranchised males. If guys stuck to the basic RP tenets, that would be one thing.

Why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex and mock them for trying?

Do nerds care if girls can't get their AF/BB strategy to work out? I don't think they do. I feel badly for people who are lonely, who have no close friends or intimate relationships. I don't feel badly for sub-par guys who can't get casual sex - casual sex is not a necessity. That said, I don't mock guys who can't get casual sex, I don't really care.

where else should nerds go?

The gym.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

and you know what nothing is wrong with people like you who don't care and don't mock. it's other people who have decided that the redpill is the worst thing on earth and writes off anyone who subscribes to there.

like people of reddit . the nerds want casual sex too . and if the only place that cares about their superficial wants and teaches them how to get it is filled with misogyny then the nerds will learn to hate women.

so this what reddit sounds like.

nerd: i want casual sex and the redpill seems like the place to go for advice

reddit:don't go the redpill its bad for you.

nerd: ok so tell me how to get casual sex

reddit: oh no we don't care that you want casual sex. we won't help you

nerd: so what am i supposed to do ?

reddit: have you tried not wanting casual sex?

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[–]MercedesBenzoAMGbringing percocets molly percocet back to ppd5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I had an entire large stuffed crust pizza today. Was delicious.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

All the pizza huts by me closed, I don’t even know where to get stuffed crust anymore unless I made it myself.

[–]aznphenix1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

clearly gotta just make it yourself then.

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The dough is the hardest part, but most grocery stores carry fresh, pre-made pizza dough in the refrigerated section (you might have to ask). Get a cheap pizza stone and a bunch of string cheese and make your own stuffed crust pizza, probably for less than even Pizza Hut would charge.

Otherwise DiGiorno has frozen ones.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well there were a few little caesers that were making them, but they are shittier, I don’t know where any of them are either. But it was hard to beat a $6 stuffed crust pizza.

[–]MercedesBenzoAMGbringing percocets molly percocet back to ppd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's shit. Do you have any Domino's? They do stuffed crust too. Papa John's also does it but it's meh.

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[–]honeypuppy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No-one cares if you read /r/Fitness and /r/socialskills with the aim of making yourself more attractive. It's the misogynistic stuff like "women are children" and dangerously manipulative stuff like "dread game" that are the primary reasons TRP is controversial.

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[–]MercedesBenzoAMGbringing percocets molly percocet back to ppd2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

😂😂😂

I love you.

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😘 lol ty!

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

they want casual sex with lots of women. They see others doing it and want it too

Honestly I'm more a long term fuck buddy kinda guy. I've been hooking up with the same two girls practically all year. There was two others this year, but i didn't enjoy my time with them. I'd rather play Xbox then fuck a girl that i don't really want too fuck.

In other words, just find people you enjoy, other then worrying about running through the numbers.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

its easier to get fuck buddies if you follow the red pill. if you follow the redpill you will become more attractive , have a bigger social circle and be less needy/clingly

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well you don't need trp to stop being needy. Like my dad always said, don't be a bitch

[–]AnarchkittyBetter dead than Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck buddies are less likely than anyone to put up with TRP's manipulative bullshit.

In an LTR there is the drive to put up with it for love or the sake of the relationship. Casual sex partners will put up with it if they want to fuck you otherwise because they know they won't have to deal with it very long. Fuck buddies may put up with your toxic personality for a while if the sex is really good, but if you're annoying they'll eventually ghost you because you're annoying them and they don't have any reason to put up with it any longer than they have to.

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You sound like the guy from Blackdragon Blog

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have no idea what that is

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A red pill blog without the dumb posters

[–]PBRScagsquad(((Prima Illuminatus)))2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is for you to figure out yourself.

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

If not for TRP/PUA, then nowhere, it's taboo and restricted.

Women giving men real advice would heavily cut into women's supply of beta orbiters and providers. They don't consciously do this, it's subconscious, and pre-programmed by evolution. Also, the idea of a man who sexually repulses them getting laid makes them sick, so the man making his desires known quickly turns him into a puppy she's never though of fucking who gives her money, favors, and emotional tamponism, into a disgusting monster.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Like seriously. Men want casual sex. Some men just never figured out early how to get it. So they go to the redpill for help. But everyone says the redpill is women hating and manipulative and bad for you. So they it's not even that they don't care that men want casual sex. They literally don't want men learning how to get it.

[–]Orange_Paisley5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It is manipulative. That's its whole purpose, manipulating women into having sex.

[–]throwaway16432 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it is manipulation, when women are independent adults who also make the descision to have casual sex. It takes two to tango. They aren't puppets, but are individuals who have their own wants and needs.

You don't want to be a misogynist and take agency away from women who have casual sex, do you?

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It's like "K, if red pill is bad, go get me some pussy, if you don't wanna fuck me, find me another girl to fuck", and they just get triggered or start hamstering.

Do women seriously not realize how hard it is for most men?

[–]throwaway16431 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

They don't care. It's as simple as that. The world is a cold, miserable and unfair place and nobody is going to look out for you other than yourself (or your family, in lucky cases).

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I mean they care about helping their guy friends with other stuff, but as soon as he mentions needing help with sex, he's a disgusting monster and they get triggered, because he's just like the guys they rejected for sex. I don't think it's the world being cold and miserable, there's clearly something that makes unattractive men having sex an extra special negative trigger in women's minds. If a female friend was lamenting not getting laid, they'd be sympathetic towards her.

[–]Freethetreees2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

there's clearly something that makes unattractive men having sex an extra special negative trigger in women's minds

It has nothing to do with a selfish desire for orbiters, and everything to do with the good of the gene pool. Women care more about the genetic fitness of the species as a whole than men do. If it seems like women are conspiring to keep you from getting laid, it's because they sense your genes don't belong in the population. And it squicks women out even more when genetically unfit males seem especially intent on getting laid, because the only way for men like that to get casual sex is by manipulating/raping/enslaving women.

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It has nothing to do with a selfish desire for orbiters, and everything to do with the good of the gene pool. Women care more about the genetic fitness of the species as a whole than men do. If it seems like women are conspiring to keep you from getting laid, it's because they sense your genes don't belong in the population. And it squicks women out even more when genetically unfit males seem especially intent on getting laid, because the only way for men like that to get casual sex is by manipulating/raping/enslaving women.

If women cared more about genetic fitness of the species as a whole than men do, then they wouldn't help their genetically female friends with relationships.

If it seems like women are conspiring to keep you from getting laid, it's because they sense your genes don't belong in the population.

Okay, then why are they friends with us? Why can't they fuck off? We don't wanna be friends with someone who thinks of us like that, and lies to us that she's happy for us when we're in a relationship. It absolutely IS a selfish desire for orbiters if she wants to use a guy for those things, and lies to him to keep him around. Don't worry though, more and more men are realizing that women are enemies.

[–]Neoprime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

because the only way for men like that to get casual sex is by manipulating/raping/enslaving women.

And no wonder why some men don't get laid.

[–]strummingcolorsBlue Pill Man3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How have men been having casual sex with women without the red pill? What is so special about the red pill?

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex and mock them for trying?

idk. why should we?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok so they don't care. That's cool. The redpill cares. Why does reddit hate the redpill so much? It's just nerds trying to figure out how to get casual sex. The say redpill is misogynist and manipulative and unhealthy. But they don't try to help the nerds . They just want them to stop reading the redpill. They want them to give up on casual sex . I don't understand .

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Why should men care about slut shaming? Or any of the non sense feminism spouts.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

why should they? i agree. who curr?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Except society is overall not this stoic about it

[–]kandyapplezslow down lil baby you going pacino4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it makes more sense for guys to care about slutshaming since slutshaming affects attractive women's willingness to fuck them. The same isn't true for male nerds wanting casual sex.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And what if my mother was a terribly abusive psychopath?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I care as much as much as I care about women about getting buck for a bang. I mock women for that, and I sure as hell will mock men.

Why do you think people should care?

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People care about themselves. When redpill advocates ideas and concepts people consider detrimental to themselves or people they give a fuck about--that's when and why they step in. People do not care about other people's problems without benefit to themselves. You don't, I don't, nor does the next person.

Nobody gives a fuck you or I am a nerd and the world keeps on spinnin'. Take accountability for your problems and manage them.

[–]philomexaIF THE POISON WON'T TAKE YOU MY DOGS WILL2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why does reddit hate the redpill so much? It's just nerds trying to figure out how to get casual sex.

because no one likes nerds, duh.

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Men's magazines, self help books, TV, going outside, having friends, etc can often be a good source.

The problem is that it's really hard to help people who are unable to just learn by observing; without being explicitly told about everything. The vast majority of people know that being fit is better than fat and it's considered to be common sense so they won't mention it even though a handful of nerds actually need to be told about this.

The best advice normal people can come up with is something like "get drunk, go partying and just talk to some chicks". They wouldn't even think that you don't know how basic social interactions or even people work, how to Google for styling, that you should take showers, what body language is, that women could lie, etc.

That's why those nerds shouldn't try to get casual sex. They should first learn how to make friends, how to have fun with people, how to hold conversations, how to be confident and how to get out of their comfort zone.

Learn how to jog before you try to run a marathon.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

thank you. any specific magazines and books you could recommend ?

[–]WavesAcross2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Models by mark manson.

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've read that. Great book. But it's saying the same stuff TRP says without the bad tone.

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well for starters GQ, FHM, Men's Health or Men's Fitness all offer fitness, styling and flirting tips. It's what men have read for decades if they wanted to learn how to be a better man.

Then there's books like Models, How to Win Friends and Influence People, How to talk to anyone, etc

There really is a vast amount of information out there even though TRPers claim that Disney movies and their mother is all the mainstream advice that exists.

[–]WavesAcross0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

They should first learn how to make friends, how to have fun with people, how to hold conversations, how to be confident and how to get out of their comfort zone.

Do you know any nerds irl? What do you think happens at our social events? At anime con or a larp event? That we all just stand their silently? That we don't make new friends and have conversations and fun?

What do you think it takes if not confidence to dress up in a costume you fashioned your self in front of strangers? To rp (effectively improv theatre) with a new group or perform some sort of skit up on stage?

The vast majority of people know that being fit is better than fat

Nerds know that too. It's just most have bought the bp lie that there is "someone for everyone" so why change?

[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wasn't talking about all nerds. I was talking about "those" nerds. Those the OP was talking about.

[–]WavesAcross0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So was I. I'm one of those nerds. Our issue isn't that we don't know how to make friends or have fun. It's just an easy way for you to write us off.

[–]CounterintuitiveRam0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I don't understand what people mean when they say nerds aren't socially well adjusted. They are for their own circles aren't they?

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex

Why would they be obligated to care about this at all?

and mock them for trying?

I'm not mocking Terps for trying: I'm mocking them for trying a philosophy based on absolutely nothing.

[–]theambivalentrooster2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Good question, where to find sex advice for nerds?

Can’t help you, I just figured it out on my own. It’s not that hard.

[–]Reed_49830 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dr. Nerdlove?

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

r/bodybuilding

Misc

[–]Radinax2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

LOL so no one helped OP, what a great bunch of users.

What is your definition of "nerd"?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

i don't even have one. i just here people claiming the all theredpill readers are bitter anger nerds that can't laid.

[–]Radinax2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I live my life taking what I want, TRP has some very eye opening concepts like how being attractive DOES MATTER, when PUA said "oh no don't worry read my book and you be able to get any girl you want", TRP has a philosofy I identify myself with, BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH THE WOMEN HATING BS. Thats where I cross the line, I have my life my mission, in my world women are the ones approaching ME because I show a shit load of value and live a fun life. I learned that with TRP concepts.

I don't care about blue, black, red or purple, I just take what works for me and live my life, end of story.

[–]sadomasochristnAWALT = Not red pilled3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Society : "Die alone"

[–]Orange_Paisley12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not being able to have sex with tons of women is not "dying alone." Pick one or two women and be happy.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

No dude Bro complained about women not helping or caring about men not getting casual sex, that is not "die alone" that is be real.

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So whats the point of this sub then? If it's obvious that women and blue pillers don't care mens wanting casual sex , why bother to discuss with them? Any flaw the point in the redpill doesn't matter becuase it's like they are going to suggest something better.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Probably because there is more to the discussions than casual sex but really what is the piont of any sub on Reddit?

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what have you learn't from ppd personally ?

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Me not that much, it is still interesting to hear very different perspectives than what I have.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

that's reasonable

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Dude if you are the latest incarnation of redpill users the old school Bros should be cringing right now.

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the old school Bros should be cringing

Is it possible to cringe when you are entirely composed of cringe?

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[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was worried for a minute.

[–]MrsEdith1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Here's a tip for you. If you can't even get a gf who will give you regular sex than you are too far gone to get casual sex. Women want the best for casual sex, but they will take good enough for relationships.

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[–]MrsEdith4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Improve yourself to get a gf, sure. Improve yourself to be a ho though? Why?

[–]1UPZ_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its simple, nerdy guys with no social skills should personally seek advice from approachable guys they see or know.

If you see or know a friendly guy, who is very confident, but kind and good looking enough to attract women... go ask him for advice.

But in simplicity.... look masculine (go gym, act more confident.. which is actually linked in a way) and develop social skills.... treat women like just normal humans rather than someone you want to marry and you'll start talking to them about anything that sounds natural and thats where it begins...

[–]CharlesChristI'm Neutral1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is late, and someone already complained about this thread, but when I used to lurk in the BluePill, one of the commonplace they say nerds should go to is Dr. NerdLove.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Black people.

I'm not even joking. Follow black media, get some black friends, anything. Black culture has all the good stuff of RP and PUA and it doesn't have the misogynist baggage.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

LOL

you think black media isn't misogynist?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Of course, it can be but I feel like even the progressive or nerdy parts of black culture have a healthier view of sexuality and the relationship between men and women than nerdy white culture or the manosphere.

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the relationship between men and women

ehhhhhhhh depends on which black circles you're in.

and the 'progressive' branch of black culture is a super minority.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that might be true. It has a big enough presence on the internet tho. And while mainstream black culture can be misogynistic it's often more of the garden-variety kind than the weird-ass shit you see in the manosphere.

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where? most online communities are largely white MC males in western countries.

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There's blackfellas here on Reddit. There's the black culture thread on ResetERA, formerly GAF. And in some nerdy communities, like the fighting game community, there's a strong black presence.

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This is all so true

[–]Leinadro-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I find myself looking at both and seeing too many problems on both sides.

Mainstream black culture can be downright brutal to men largely because it focuses so much on race that gender is often forgotten. Sure gender will get pulled out when its time to brow beat black men over how horrible we are to black women but that's about the only time it comes up.

And the manosphere while taking gender into account in ways other than "what are men doing wrong and how can we train them to be better for women?" has its own tendency to overshoot. as well.

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You a bro

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But it’s okay cus Gods a feminist too

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Cashing in on the beta bucks I see.

[–]Neoprime0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

WHAT!, your an atheist and Jesus freak?

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Oh, could you pm why converted?

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[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Me too. I am Christian too

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sarcasm right?

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[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So proud of you for dropping the rad fem label. Don't think you can be a radfem and be a christian since feminists promote slutting it up and being impure, while Christianity is against being a slut

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it good that some men burn with lust all their lives and cannot get married or find partners at all?

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Feminism.

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol

[–]DrippyskippyMonk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/relationships oh shit purge day is over where is the automod.

[–]Neoprime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Casual sex isn't meant for nerds, they lack the genes.

[–]Neoprime0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

mock them for trying?

Citation.

[–]VoidInvincibleFull Measure2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Theres a bully sub literally for mocking unfortunate men. I'd say what it was, but they are dead to me and New Years resolutions includes cutting shitty things out of my life. They're actually worse than who they're mocking

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

1.) Not everyone is having casual sex. People around them might be PRETENDING to have casual sex, but hookup culture is largely a myth, particularly in high school, which is where these kids have a lot of problems getting casual sex.

2.) These nerds will one day grow older, learn contraception, get a job, and get their own place. They'll become intelligent, fun people to hang out with. Then, they'll get casual sex on their own. Boom - no Redpill or PUA needed.

[–]Menurotica0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

what is a nerd in this context?

[–]762RiflemanNeither0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a truly fantastic person named Franklin Veaux who is a total nerd and yet has had the kind of sex life most people couldn't even dream of.

https://www.quora.com/profile/Franklin-Veaux

He and his girls have literally written the book on sleeping around, ethically and enjoyably. I find his techniques mostly distill down to play the numbers game, be honest about your intentions, look for girls who you like and who seem to like you back. There's little to no game or mysticism in his system -- he takes the stance that willing sex is something that is good and the desire to have it is common, all that it takes is the chance, a bit of interpersonal chemistry, and some putting yourself out there. He is no Chad Thundercock and laughs at the idea of alphas and betas.

I like his ideas, because they can be more finely adapted and tuned to dealing with individual people rather than having to group the world into the primary camps of alphas, betas, virgins, and sluts -- people are human beings instead or huge categories. The old divide has been between promiscuity and commitment, but he has written a guide to the middle way -- why choose when you really can have multiple girls and emotional closeness?

[–]decoy88Black Male in London0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen some good stuff on AskMen and MensFitness

[–]PacoXXIII0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

RSD is a solid company. They teach dating advice and they are legit. They have loads of YouTube videos and you can tell how much they have progressed over the years as you watch their videos. If I were you, I would search up "Rsd infield breakdown" on YouTube.

[–]Sunshine_Cutie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why don't women care that some men can't get casual sex and mock them for trying?

Jfc is this really the type of social justice youre pushing? No one is entitled to sex, if you going to be morally outraged just make sure its something that's actually, you know, immoral

[–]st_ceciliaPurple Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a whole subreddit for this /r/seduction. I know you said "no PUA" but a lot of stuff on there is more about being "natural".

As for books, check out

Models by Mark Manson (This is probably the gold standard book on "how to get dates without being an ass")

also, ,No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover

[–]truedemocracy3Such An Asshole!0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ideally their fathers. In todays world, reliable male figures. Hard to come by.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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