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Incels aren't incel because of their personality. 99% of what makes a girl want to sleep with you has to do with looks and status. Many BP on here claim that TRP are a bunch of evil chauvinists, and don't get laid because of that. This is clearly brain-dead level thinking because most women could give a hot damn about how a guy thinks and acts. They all claim they want some sort of personality connection but it's just a bunch of lies.

If the guy isn't a certain level attraction (top 20, maybe 30% of men), women will not desire to form an intimate connection. They will date and fuck men that are lower than this, usually because they are getting cash out of it, or are in a desperate pinch in need of attention. These women will leave these men if a higher % guy interacts with them.

Here's some fun ones:

Here we have a hot misogynist getting more matches than an ugly guy would get in a year. https://i.imgur.com/uWq0x7c.png

this ones my favorite though. Convicted child rapist getting so many matches as well

https://i.imgur.com/GcGihfg.jpg

When BPers on here claim "TRP are losers who can't get laid because of their personality and TRP perpetuates their own problems!!" it's a crock of shit. It's a sophisticated form of shaming the beta male, who couldn't figure out women don't want to fuck good men,they want to fuck hot, belligerent, and dangerous men.


[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this41 points42 points  (86 children) | Copy Link

Guys would react the same fucking way. Humans are shallow. Hot damn, stop the presses.

Edit: In addition, if you're ugly, you can't also have an ugly personality. You'd really have nothing going for you.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 29 points30 points  (59 children) | Copy Link

It's not that I'm trying to show you they're shallow. I'm trying to show you they're hypocritical. Guys don't claim personality makes a girl more or less sexually attractive.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this9 points10 points  (53 children) | Copy Link

Women are hypocritical because some people on the internet told you otherwise?

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (42 children) | Copy Link

Women are hypocritical because some people on the internet told you otherwise?

Feminism informed me.

Women complain that there are not enough good men with jobs, but also complain about too many men working in a male-dominated field that earns money.

Seldom if ever do I read about women complaining about men working in a male-dominated field involving difficult manual labor like electricians, plumbers, carpenters, etc.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this17 points18 points  (40 children) | Copy Link

Women complain that there are not enough good men with jobs, but also complain about too many men working in a male-dominated field that earns money.

Women. Are. Not. A. Hivemind.

[–]darkmoon0921 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

When those kind of complaints are woven into the modern social narrative, it sure apears to work like a hivemind. Women would be doing a service by disassociating themselves from the message but they don't, don't they?

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women would be doing a service by disassociating themselves from the message but they don't, don't they?

Like it would matter. People just latch onto the message that gets yelled the loudest. I have. I'm not complaining or otherwise, but I don't count, do I?

[–]the_calibre_cat0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women would be doing a service by disassociating themselves from the message but they don't, don't they?

Actually, to give credit where credit's due, a lot of women do. Their voices just aren't heard, because the media is controlled by generally turbo-left people who desire specific political action, and giving airtime to the detractors of their ideal social arrangement who also happen to be women isn't conducive towards drumming up public support for that political action.

So, women who are against abortion, or who don't need the government mandating that insurers provide them with free contraceptives, or who empathize with the male plight, or who are otherwise capable adults who defend their right to be responsible for themselves, just aren't given airtime.

You'll note that M.S.N.B.C. is happy to give Sandra Fluke plenty of airtime, but not, say, Jillian Melchior or Julie Borowski. Sandra Fluke advances The Narrative™, Melchior and Borowski do not - so they don't get airtime on networks dedicated to advancing the liberal cause.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So, women who are against abortion, or who don't need the government mandating that insurers provide them with free contraceptives, or who empathize with the male plight, or who are otherwise capable adults who defend their right to be responsible for themselves, just aren't given airtime.

Conservative women make me hard, ill actually make them breakfast and give them a ride instead of telling them to take an Uber.

[–]the_calibre_cat6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women. Are. Not. A. Hivemind.

No, they're not, they're just treated as one by the left and feminism and social justice whenever it's convenient to.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, they're not, they're just treated as one by the left and feminism and social justice whenever it's convenient to.

People use things to their advantage at the expense of others? Shocking.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||12 points13 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

Yes they are. Women don't think for themselves. They look to others to determine what they should believe. They see what everyone else thinks, what beliefs will get you accepted into the ingroup, or rejected from the ingroup. Their opinions are based on popularity, not logic or morality. Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but your gender has not had a single original thought since the dawn of the species.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this3 points4 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

They see what everyone else thinks, what beliefs will get you accepted into the ingroup, or rejected from the ingroup.

So what about the women who don't belong to a group?

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||2 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

All women desperately need to belong to a group, so they will do what it takes to fit in. Men define themselves by their abilities and accomplishments, while women define themselves by their relationships. 1,000 Facebook friends means more than a Master's degree to a woman's sense of self-worth. What the group is doesn't matter, not does it matter so much whether the group considers her a member. If nothing else, women will define themselves by their astrological sign, so they can imagine they have traits in common with 1/12 of the population. They imagine some kind of special bond with all women, and if they are mothers or breast cancer survivors or anything else that makes them special, and yet allows them to fit in with another subgroup, more the better.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

All women desperately need to belong to a group, so they will do what it takes to fit in.

TIL I'm not a woman.

[–]InASeaOfShells1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I'd give up all but the couple of close friends I have if it meant I would meet my career and academic goals. So I guess my vagina is a lie.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||-3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Nah, you do it too. You just hamster it into something else. It doesn't have to be some specific organization, but group membership is central to your identity. Identifying as some "non-conformist" is really just grouping yourself with other non-conformists, and you need to conform to the standards of non-conformist behavior to prove how unique you are. It's inescapable.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its like as if men are the same way.

[–]quotient_isPurple Pill4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Humans all desperately need to belong in groups. Some people do this via astrology, others do it via systems like MBTI (like several of the people here) and still others do it via religion or friendships formed around common interests like politics, hunting, sports, crafting or music. Men often desire to be leaders or winners moreso than women, but their desire to be part of a social group is there all the same. It's not dirty, just human.

People who fail at these endeavors often seem to find themselves in angry corners of the internet like this where they... get this... find groups of like minded people with whom they can theorize about how unfair the world is.

No one, save legitimate hermits, can truly say they define themselves based entirely on their own abilities and accomplishments. Even men who claim to do this still compare themselves to others in their desire to be the competitive best. Or the competitive worst. Whatever floats your boat.

[–]crumblesnatch<>-<>-<>4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

... you think men who join the KKK are rational individualists, huh?

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes. That is exactly what I said. Men who choose to all dress alike, including hoods that obscure their faces, are completely typical. All men subsume their individual identity into a group of like-minded men, obliterating all trace of identity separate from the group. But they do it in a rational, individualist manner.

[–]ivegotsomequestions0Purple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah... I have a theory about why it appears this way. I think that women will form their own opinions, but most of them are also socially skilled in a way that goes above and beyond what most men are capable of. When a bunch of women get together, what looks like a hive mind is a bunch of very socially fluent people speaking their own language. Just as you wouldn't start speaking Spanish when in a conversation with English speakers, women aren't going to do speech and debate while in the middle of social bonding. That doesn't mean they don't have another mental track where they're silently arguing with dumb shit that's being said.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So what you are saying is, women value belonging to a group more than they value their own beliefs. They will silently endure members of their ingroup spouting nonsense, because they would rather be accepted by people who have radically different values than risk being ostracized by the group by voicing an unpopular opinion. That's not exactly what I said women are like, but it's much closer than you might care to admit. From the outside, women who are incapable of forming their own opinions, and rely on groupthink, are indistinguishable from those who form their own opinions but defer to groupthink. The end result is the same.

[–]InASeaOfShells0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Could you actually prove there has not been a single original thought by a women in the entire history of our species? Can you even come close to proving that? Because I don't really believe you can.

Also, I'm betting that at the very least, the women who've won major academic awards like the Nobel Prize for their research, have had some original thoughts. I don't think they could have produced such groundbreaking research otherwise.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's impossible to prove a negative. You should know this. Wait? Are you a woman? Then, never mind. You probably wouldn't know this.

Can you make one woman who has won a major academic award, like the Nobel Prize, without looking it up? I didn't think so.

[–]InASeaOfShells0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You can prove the existence of something.

Ah okay I get it. Being a women means there is no way I can have a reasonable concept of what my gender is like because I'm biased and I have an agenda, right? Well I guess that means you don't get to have an opinion about what men are like because of your own biased agenda.

Off the top of my head? Elizabeth Blackburn won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 2009 for identifying the role of telomeres in preventing the degradation of chromosomes during cell division.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah okay I get it. Being a women means there is no way I can have a reasonable concept of what my gender is like because I'm biased and I have an agenda, right?

I said nothing of the sort. You defied me to prove a negative assertion; an impossibly which I pointed out, and you hamstered it into the quote above. See, this is why it's pointless to argue with women; you argue against things you imagine I think, rather than the words I actually said. How does one argue with a mind reader, even a really bad one?

[–]Yourstruly7772 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

ehrm actually.....

[–]BisquitBill 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Radicals control the feminism message.

[–]TheBlackQuillMisanthrope4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I know, sweetness, you are going to tell me that you are married to a man or have a boyfriend, so you don't hate men. What a convenient alibi you have.

When does she say she hate men in the first place?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

When does she say she hate men in the first place?

A common staple in debate forums such as /r/PurplePillDebate is for posters to look for a controversy already in progress or to create a controversy of their own.

/u/RockinSocksII's intention was to create a controversy by pointing out that not all women are feminists, not all feminists are the same, and not all women or not all feminists hate men, and only the radical feminists actually hate men.

Having he benefit of exposure to debate forms and exposure to feminists debate strategies, I was able to infer /u/RockinSocksII's intentions and cut her off before she could lead into a place where I was on the defensive.

/u/TheBlackQuill, you want to learn the first rule you would know if you ever spent a day in your life: you never open your mouth until you know what the shot is.

And I have seen /u/RockinSocksII's rhetorical strategies one too many times to know where and when to outflank her in a debate.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

create a controversy by pointing out that not all women are feminists, not all feminists are the same, and not all women or not all feminists hate men, and only the radical feminists actually hate men.

It's weird that you think this is a controversy.

Having he benefit of exposure to debate forms and exposure to feminists debate strategies, I was able to infer /u/RockinSocksII's intentions

I'm not a feminist.

[–]TheBlackQuillMisanthrope5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

/u/TheBlackQuill, you want to learn the first rule you would know if you ever spent a day in your life: you never open your mouth until you know what the shot is.

What? I am merely asking a question. I am not even accusing you of anything. I am giving you he benefit of the doubt here

/u/RockinSocksII's intention was to create a controversy by pointing out that not all women are feminists, not all feminists are the same, and not all women or not all feminists hate men, and only the radical feminists actually hate men.

Because in a way she is right? Not all women are feminists are true. And feminism have different tracks. Some only believe the old school version that women can work hard and be as capable as men and some belief the sjwish stuff that we have these days. You also forget to account that in some places, no one have a clue what feminism actually is. I live in places that. What is so controversial about saying not all women are feminists ?

[–]RockinSocksII 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I know, sweetness, you are going to tell me that you are married to a man or have a boyfriend, so you don't hate men. What a convenient alibi you have.

Not a feminist, prick.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You want to lay off the genital insults there? I got silenced for three days for calling someone a cunt, so "prick" has to be off-limits as well. On paper, at least. It's only Blue mods that get their knickers in a twist about such things, so you won't get in trouble. Just don't.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Next time, I'll just call hhim an asshole then. No genitals involved.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Still a personal attack, and Purge Week is over. It's marginally less bad, but you're still wrong.

[–]madeofivory0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe the word your looking for is "feminists" not women.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

No, BP women are hypocritical because they claim personality has a large influence on whether or not they'll sleep with a guy. They'll claim this online and in real life.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

BP women are hypocritical because they claim personality has a large influence on whether or not they'll sleep with a guy.

It probably does, for them. Because again, women are one big organism.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It probably does, for them.

It probably doesn't. They sleep with guys they find attractive enough and halo effect goes around their sub-par personality. Not hard to comprehend. If most women cared about personality more than looks, ugly guys would get laid as much as hot guys. Clearly untrue, but keep trying to dodge the argument with "oh but see this girl right here is blind! she can't see looks! only personality! NAWALT!!!" woop-de-do, if these women were the majority, there'd be no ugly men complaining about relationships in the first place.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If most women cared about personality more than looks, ugly guys would get laid as much as hot guys.

When you say "BP women", you should probably say "most women" like you mean instead of what everyone is going to assume what you mean as in BP women on TBP or PPD.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ok

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

In my experience women don’t give a shit about personality.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It does, but it doesn’t exist in a completely separate vacuum by which if he’s dog ugly a nice personality will make up for it. Women’s attraction is more holistic towards a man, men’s is more straight up visual. No one (here anyway) claims looks don’t matter, we exhaustingly try and explain how personality and behavior plays a role in female attraction towards men and the lookists just deny deny deny, they don’t want to hear the truth.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

lookists

I knew that word would be thrown around sometime in this thread.

which if he’s dog ugly a nice personality will make up for it.

I know, my question is for you blue pilled peeps: have you ever pondered that maybe incels are just dog ugly? What's your advice for a dog ugly short male who seems to be get sloppy seconds at best?

we exhaustingly try and explain how personality and behavior plays a role in

You exhaustingly try to over exaggerate the role personality plays. Your response to any incel who is angry with his sexual failures is "you know, you WOULD get laid if you had a better attitude". It's silly and untrue.

[–]InASeaOfShells2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah and you exhaustingly over exaggerate the role that money and looks have when a women chooses a boyfriend or husband.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dog ugly man better have a stellar personality and lots of charisma. He's got a hard road ahead of him. Lookist jackasses say that he should completely give up on life because he looks like Quasimodo.

[–]Cho_AssmilkArrogant RP S.O.B.0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

If I'm given the option to fuck 2 chick's. A 6 and an 8. The 6 is straight up and down to earth. The 8 is one of the airheads who hit up the child molester on tinder. You bet your ass I'll take the 6. Doesn't mean I wouldn't fuck the 8 on a different occasion, just that personality is attractive; I'm not even saying that a relationship of any sort with the 6 is possible either.

I suppose when you spend your life feeling sorry for yourself and hating women, your views may be different though...

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

A 6 and an 8. The 6 is straight up and down to earth. The 8 is one of the airheads who hit up the child molester on tinder. You bet your ass I'll take the 6.

weird how you chose 6 and 8 lol. Because i bet if it were 9, it would be a different story xD

I suppose when you spend your life feeling sorry for yourself and hating women, your views may be different though...

No I hate myself and feel sorry for women

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Respect

[–]Cho_AssmilkArrogant RP S.O.B.0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I live in a town of 10,000 people. There are like maybe 3 to 4 @ 9s. With respect to this, there are very few 1s.

1s are fuckin ugly. I mean the they are acne ridden, big nosed, wide eyed, crooked teeth, nothing symmetrical about them at all, with a big gut, skinny shoulders and a couple other things wrong.

I highly doubt you're that ugly

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I highly doubt you're that ugly

what would that have to do with anything. My argument is personality doesn't affect sexual attraction.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Everyone already knows guys are shallow

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this10 points11 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

And why would women, who are of the same species, be any different?

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Because they said they were

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link

When BPers on here claim "TRP are losers who can't get laid because of their personality and TRP perpetuates their own problems!!"

That claim? No one said women aren't shallow. But if you're ugly and have an ugly personality, no one is going to want you because you have nothing good to offer.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Not my point, but instead about how polls of women very often downplay the importance of looks

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Wow, people answer polls in a way that makes themselves look good? Color me surprised.

[–]darkmoon098 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Tell that to the bloopers here who are quick to post sone bogus 'study' that says something like "Women rate men's personalities more than looks as an indicator for attractiveness".

I myself have even pointed out to bloops and anti-RP folks that people lie in these polls and studies and their response is something along the lines of "why would they lie? This was an official study and no one would lie about something like that". Lol.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is why I'm no longer blue.

[–]IckyStickyPoo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Women rate men's personalities more than looks as an indicator for attractiveness".

I don't say that. I say looks are the number one indicator of attractiveness in a man. Reds shout me down every time and say that status matters more.

Can't win.

Of course, much more than looks matters for relationships though.

[–]darkmoon090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Reds shout me down every time and say that status matters more.

Really? Hmm, i find that odd because IME red pill is pretty blunt about the fact thay if you are unattractive then you are more or less shit out of luck and anything else is just you being used for your money, stability, and emotional comfort

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Men don't

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Really? You don't think they overestimate when stating how many sexual partners they've had?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I don't think they lie about being shallow

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No one said women aren't shallow.

Eh, guys do get told this a lot growing up. That said, it should be obvious by adulthood that it's a complete lie.

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You missed the point completely, unusual from you.

Men aren't hypocrite about it, women are, that's the point.

[–]the_calibre_cat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys would react the same fucking way.

That doesn't undercut his argument. His argument is that blue pill's just world fallacy is wrong, and he's right.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys would react the same fucking way.

Except it doesn't work for guys, girls are more discerning on who they let dick em.

Shallow is one thing. Shallow and enabled is another.

It's a good lesson. Dick is cheap

[–]mgtownigga1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah guys put up wiht a lot more shit from attractive women tahn they would with most women. True say

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys would react the same fucking way.

Guys dont tell women "Just improve your personality sis!".

Humans are shallow. Hot damn, stop the presses.

Even still, women are far more shallow than men.

In addition, if you're ugly, you can't also have an ugly personality. You'd really have nothing going for you.

If you're a man. There's plenty of unattractive women who are shitty people and still have plenty of dating success.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman21 points22 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

If some super hot woman posted gross racist stuff and said she was a serial killer on the side dudes including thirsty Bro who act way too cool in this sub would chase after her. You are trying to make the "women be shallow" argument leaving out the part where humanity is shallow and incels are shallow and ugly people are shallow. The difference the the hot people can be shallow and still score other hot people. Everybody else not so much. So what makes ugly and incel people pissed off is they cannot score the hot people. edit words

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 12 points13 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

You are trying to make the "women be shallow" argument

I'm not making that argument. BPers claim personality has a large influence on sexual attractiveness. I'm calling hypocrisy.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman8 points9 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Personality can undermine attractiveness.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 7 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

What kind? "I'd love to get to know you more" attractiveness?

Or "fuck me all night daddy" attractiveness?

I know which kind of attractive I'd like to be

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman7 points8 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Be whoever you want. Very, very, few men are going to make it into the "fuck all night me daddy" category for a couple of reasons 1) the pool of women who want to bang some dude after meeting him briefly is small 2) the number of men who can be that level of attractiveness is small. I understand that men and especially American men and particularly men in this sub have this incredible capacity for over estimating themselves, for believing in weird delusional shit about how anybody can succeed when that is not true, and for believing they themselves have the special powers to be the uber alpha man who women will throw themselves at but for most of you it is not happening.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

the pool of women who want to bang some dude after meeting him briefly is small

hahahahahahahahaaha, what? Every been to a party before?

As for point number 2:

Right, we're in agreement. Nice American profiling sprinkled in a little bit. Slightly off topic, but yea, not everyone can succeed. My original point was to show that the people who don't succeed aren't succeeding because they don't have the looks. Has little to do with their personalities.

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Every been to a party before?

Yes. Now, explain why you assumed every party is like a teen sex comedy? And if you can explain how you erased all the folks who prefer long term relationships?

Start with the blackpill's cult of bitter virginity, and if you can, throw a few roasties and femoids in there.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Now, explain why you assumed every party is like a teen sex comedy?

If you've been to a good American Frat party, it's worse than a teen sex comedy.

And if you can explain how you erased all the folks who prefer long term relationships?

the old folks?

Start with the blackpill's cult of bitter virginity

Virginity is merely a choice when prostitution exists

throw a few roasties and femoids in there.

Slut, whore, thot, empowered female

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

If you've been to a good American Frat party, it's worse than a teen sex comedy.

Depends on the teen sex comedy. But very well -

Now, explain why you assumed every party will be entered into prosecution's evidence?

Or is just about random hook-ups - there's nothing wrong with it, by itself, but you obsess. I know you guys resent missing out in your youth, but your fantasy life is owning you.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Now, explain why you assumed every party will be entered into prosecution's evidence?

These parties are not rare if you've been at a large university in the USA. Women will frequently sleep with people they just met all the fucking time in college. Idk what culture or reality you come from.

I know you guys resent missing out in your youth, but your fantasy life is owning you.

Haha ok, whatever, deny what I witnessed.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill9 points10 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think it’s the “women are shallow” as much as it is BP and their virtue signaling “duty to others” propaganda is wrong. BP has a bug up their ass about racism and sexism and misogyny and transphobia and what have you, but most people simply don’t care.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Most of the racist white power dudes aren't hot, they are usually fat guys who like to talk shit and can't back it up, so it probably is not an ethical dilemma that comes up very frequently anyway. I live in Trumplandia people aren't attractive.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I’m not talking about /r/beholdthemasterrace and other low class forms of autism. But casually, most people don’t care about this.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Care about what though and where? Example, I live in rural Tennessee, being racist and making weird transphobic jokes and being sexist is not going to hurt your chances here. People aren't real picky who they reproduce with and I imagine they aren't super picky about who they hook up with.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

do you believe more people are sensitive to SJW concerns than arent, men in particular, all over the country?

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think people in certain pockets care but over all no.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I live in New England and it’s the same deal.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

You just can't hold crazier opinions than most people. In your neck of the woods a few racist jokes are OK but being a card carrying cross burning KKK member or Neo-Nazi is not.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

There is actually a lot of KKK up here and people flying confederate flags. TBH I was surprised myself at the amount.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, if you are in an area with a lot of those guys you might do OK. Best be careful though as IIRC the KKK is swarming with undercover FBI agents and cops.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know, they are invite people to join their private militias.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Omg, I didn't know that subreddit. Dying of laughter now, it's hilarious, thank you.

[–]washington_breadstixM'gtow2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The point is that many people claim that only men are shallow and this post provides evidence to the contrary. Women, just like men, will ignore a shit personality or even downright vile behavior if it means they have a chance to score a hottie.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am sure some will if all they want is an ONS. This post is the opinion stating that not evidence.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

With posts like these, I always wonder how many of these women actually met the guy and ended up sleeping with him. That's the real test. A lot of these conversations read to me like the woman sensing that the dude is a troll and having a little fun with him.

[–]prodigy2throw 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

These posts are always hilarious. You’re not wrong, but I’m sure if you put a hot insta slut and photoshopped her with swatika tats and a bio that just says ‘Heil Hitler’ she’s get way more matches. But that’s not really the point. Men have always been known to choose looks over most characteristics to a degree and never claimed otherwise.

The thing that’s so funny here is women SWEAR misogyny, racism, etc won’t get you laid when in reality, that’s not the case.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"8 points9 points  (53 children) | Copy Link

Shit, there's been female serial killers that've gotten marriage proposals from men. People are shallow. Misogyny and racism are very polarizing things and can get you ostracized, blacklisted and shunned. However, there are some people that like it. It won't get you anywhere with most people though.

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial25 points26 points  (35 children) | Copy Link

My point is that being a misogynist, racist or general all around bigot won’t hurt your chances as much as being a beta male will.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

I've always been forgiven for being a jerk.

I've NEVER been forgiven for being a pussy.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. Painful to read

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

A beta male to women is like a woman with a penis to men. It’s absolutely repulsive

[–]cuittlerಠ_ಠ0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I guess you're unaware of how much "chicks with dicks"/futa porn there is out there.

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

::eyeroll

Nice troll

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

A beta male to women is like a woman with a penis to men. It’s absolutely repulsive

Huh. Another one who confuses beta and omega.

There's a surprise. They can't even keep their own mythology right anymore.

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

What are you talking about

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Your confusion.

[–]prodigy2throw 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Go fuck yourself pussy

[–][deleted]  (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy Link

In order to be able to determine that, you'd have to make an identical profile without the misogyny and some beta traits and see if it got more or less matches.

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial3 points4 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

No you would need an identical bio with a beta male picture to compare the difference

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

That would only tell you that hotter men got more matches, which we already know.

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial7 points8 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Women claim personality is more important though. This guys profile and matches negates that. Also, the fact that many women commented on the profile tells you women’s opinions are malleable and adjust to the high value man.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

They can't see his personality through the dating site.

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial3 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

the bio is meant to attempt that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Elliot Rodger was good looking and rich. He couldn't get laid because he had a crappy personality.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is true if you hang with other misogynists, racists, and bigots.

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not really. IME women’s opinions are very malleable to their surroundings. Most women in their 20s are getting their opinions from twitter, Snapchat and instagram. Once you actually talk to a woman and she sees you as a high value man, her opinions will begin to mimic yours to a degree.

Not saying a black lives matter chick will suddenly go full nazi if she meets a hot skinhead but most women who are kinda feminist-ish will slowly be less feminist and more “these ugly fat sluts need to stfu”.

It’s human nature to adapt to the leader of the tribes ways.

Weak men do this too btw before you try accusing me of being a dick.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This kind of value shifting is still within the mainstream window. It's not anything that would be seen as extremist jackassery. Feminist women will not suddenly start thinking hardcore misogynists are hot as hell. Hardcore conservatives might be OK with the Nazi skinhead KKK supporter, but your average Republican woman won't be willing to show up to skinhead rallies or cross burnings. It's beyond the pale.

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s basically what I said yes

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 5 points6 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

It won't get you anywhere with most people though.

Unless you're attractive

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"2 points3 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

An attractive KKK member will do worse in most areas than an attractive mainstream Democrat or Republican.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 10 points11 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Right but that's not my point. An attractive KKK member will do better in most areas than an average mainstream Democrat or Republican.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"-1 points0 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Maybe. It is highly doubtful. At this point we are comparing apples to oranges here. Our KKK guy might find a few closet racists in Democratic areas that are OK with his cross burning.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Average guys pull diddly shit on Tinder. The hot KKK guy will annihilate any moderate average on dating sites. Average guys, no matter what belief system, do not get casual sex very easily.

[–]EliteSpartanRangerNice Guys Don't Ask For Rewards1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Average guys will get not a lot of people on Tinder, but most people wouldn't hate him either.

Meanwhile if someone posted KKK stuff on Tinder, they might get matched with women who also have the same racist views, but 90% of the women who aren't racist who look at his profile will despise him. And being despised by 90% of good women to be attractive to 10% of bitches isn't a good thing at all, so idk why you're talking about it like it's a good thing.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Average guys will get not a lot of people on Tinder, but most people wouldn't hate him either.

Lol what? Why would anyone give a shit about the opinions of strangers who aren't attracted to them?

And being despised by 90% of good women to be attractive to 10% of bitches isn't a good thing at all, so idk why you're talking about it like it's a good thing.

being despised by a bunch of strangers who won't talk to your or do anything to do is fucking meaningless. They're having more sex than the average guy with the "more desirable personality". And don't pretend like he's only attracting racist women. He's attracted women that don't give a shit as well, which I'd reckon most of them to be.

[–]EliteSpartanRangerNice Guys Don't Ask For Rewards1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Women who don't give a shit about racism aren't good women.

[–]Noxin__NixonPillPoppa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you were talking relationships then you might be right but for Tinder its all one night stands and a lot of people (men and women) will ignore unfavorable political/social views for a ONS that would be deal breakers for a LTR

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re not understanding. Women aren’t that picky when it comes to casual sex. You think all those women who messaged the guy are closet pedophile apologists? No.

They just thinking with their pussy just like men think with their dick

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

there's been female serial killers that've gotten marriage proposals from men.

Citation needed

It won't get you anywhere with most people though.

Citation needed

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

A swastika tattoo would make her more attractive to a lot of white guys. Minus the tattoo part, that's degenerate.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It's like a catch-22 to the alt-right loonies ain't it haha.

Hitler = good

Tattoos = bad

What do you do? 😂

Just go shoot up some meth, that can't be degenerate because Hitler did it.

[–]dakruNeither1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just go shoot up some meth, that can't be degenerate because Hitler did it.

It's different if your doctor does it for you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is indeed true.

Go get yourself a quack doctor folks, then it's okay to be on as many drugs as you fucking well like!

pops another Dexedrine

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

alt-right

Hitler

You sure you arent bluepilled?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol if mocking the alt-right makes me blue then I'll happily be blue, those guys are edgelord autists of the highest order.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're missing the point. What I meant is you're falsely comparing the alt right to Hitler.

You're doing the SJW thing of "THESE PEOPLE ARE RACIST WHITE SUPREMACIST NAZI SEXIST MISOGYNIST HOMOPHOBES!"

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed

[–]TheBlackQuillMisanthrope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well tbh, if you have power you can do anything :/

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its true though.

[–]monkeybeast550 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, he is wrong.

[–]SlashCo800 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Considering even serial killers get love letters in prison, I think we already know the reality. :)

[–]mgtownigga7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

being attractive isnt everything but it's such a huge advantage that it's hard to ignore. It's not about being a dick or misogynistc even ,it's about getting away with a lot more than you otherwise could in general. I know good looking guys that arent utter douchebags but lack in the personality departmetn and still can pull and retain chicks with ease. I feel ya on it being frustrating but hey, life aint fair

[–]monkeybeast551 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Gosh, do any of you people ever get laid? It's not that hard, if you're reasonably healthy, can hold a real conversation, and can demonstrate that you have something to offer. Looks matter mostly as an indication of health.

[–]mgtownigga4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

meh, I never said it was impossible for average dudes to get laid, just that it's a lot more effort for the smae if not lesser reward. It's natural to feel frustrated when people try a lot less and get a lot more. Obviously you should seek to maximize things taht raise your aesthetic but taht goes without saying.

I dunno, ime, game and personality matter, but if you don't have the looks it's not often worth the hassle. Shit is just a lot more work. You have to understand i'm assuming that men have standards here, and have a limit to how much they are willing to compromise. If you're willing to compromise then hey, it shouldn't be TOO bad

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Political beliefs not mattering =/= personality not mattering

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"5 points6 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Let's make the "child rapist" a pedophile that went after elementary-school-aged girls. See how many matches he gets then.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Ted Bundy

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

He had fame. Even if 1 in 100,000 women were attracted to him, if ten million women now know about him, he's attracting a lot of women.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I happen to be a semi-expert on Ted Bundy and the reason he was able to commit his crimes is in fact because he was able to leverage his attractiveness. Girls willingly went off with him because he was able to pick them up, and they trusted him because he was attractive (halo effect). That's how he got his victims. And there were likely hundreds of them.

Ted Bundy was very good at attracting women.

[–]speltspelt2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He used a lot of pretexts, including faking injury and official business. He's a lot more "guy next door" than "model"...I don't see where people calling him super attractive are coming from.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Models are not the bar for attractiveness. Male models are often picked to appeal to gay men.

Women find Ted Bundy physically attractive more times than not, taking just his looks into account.

He did indeed fake injury sometimes, this is why I mentioned the halo effect. If some creepy looking guy tried that a woman wouldn't go with him. It's only because he had the halo effect working in his favour that it worked for him.

[–]Ascimatorsmirks audibly0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

That's before he was a known serial killer, I assume.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

Afterwards he got 200 love letters a day in prison.

[–]Ascimatorsmirks audibly-1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Addressed above. 200 is not a lot if it's 0,0001% out of 200 000 000.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

How many love letters do you get per day?

I would think if you got 200 Tinder matches a day (to bring it into the 21st century) you'd be pretty chuffed with that selection.

[–]Ascimatorsmirks audibly0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Tinder is local. Letters can be sent from the other side of the world.

I don't see your point.

[–]DashneDK2King of LBFM5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

99% of what makes a girl want to sleep with you has to do with looks and status.

Incorrect. Some large percentage of what makes a girl want to sleep with you has nothing to do with you at all. Perhaps she's ovulating this week and is just really horny, last week she wouldn't have given you the time of the day. Perhaps she just landed a new job or got good grades on an assignment, or whatever and feel happy and carefree. Perhaps she feels lonely and vulnerable. etc. There are a million reasons why some particular girl may want to sleep with you (or reject you) which have almost nothing to do with you. You just happen to be in the right place at the right moment. There's another million reasons she might fancy you enough to sleep with you which are only marginally related to you, and more to do with something she projects on you from her own imagination. Perhaps you slightly resembles some actor she saw in a movie last night, that made her feel really good. There is never a good reason to take rejections personally, most of the time it hasn't even got anything to do with you.

If the guy isn't a certain level attraction (top 20, maybe 30% of men), women will not desire to form an intimate connection. They will date and fuck men that are lower than this, usually because they are getting cash out of it, or are in a desperate pinch in need of attention. These women will leave these men if a higher % guy interacts with them.

I wonder what it is you base these theories on. Is it personal experience?

[–]monkeybeast552 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. And I suspect they base these theories on online garbage, and clearly not from actual experience.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some large percentage of what makes a girl want to sleep with you has nothing to do with you at all.

So like the percentage that doesn't matter?

Is it personal experience?

yea

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪25 points26 points  (97 children) | Copy Link

why are you pretending that masculine opinions (misogyny, sexism, racism, etc ) are "unattractive" in the first place?

[–]says_harsh_thingsRed Pill - Chad18 points19 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Not that I agree, but if you look at an 'askwomen' or 'askreddit' thread about turnoffs, you'll find those type of things in the top of the list every time with lots of upvotes.

Its just virtue signaling though. In private those opinions disappear.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪25 points26 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

right thats why you should like, never listen to women. watch what they do

15 reddit nerd SJWs isnt "women"

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Really. They don’t even let you use the word “bitch” there. Everyone says “bitch” like all the time.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"3 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I call my friends bitches all the time. They like it, the empowered feminist bitches...

[–]Electra_CuteChristian, Flat Earther, Anti-Vaxxer, Astrologer6 points7 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

There is no way you are not littlewindowpane.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Way.

[–]Electra_CuteChristian, Flat Earther, Anti-Vaxxer, Astrologer0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

What?

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Wut?

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

“Where is QW that bitch blah blah bitch blah bitch.”

-SWP

[–]OfSpock8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because women who don't hold those opinions do hate them. No one is claiming that there aren't female neo-nazis who date neo-nazis, or female Trump supporters who date male Trump supporters.

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shh. The fascists are fellatiating themselves.

Most of them, it's even not their real opinions. They're just here to shitpost and soak up all the imagined outrage.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill6 points7 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I was going to make this same comment while also insulting BPers. But yeah, this. Most people don’t care, BP types are a small minority who do.

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

It never fails to impress how many bigots just assume everyone secretly agrees with them.

Also, that their favorite edgelord overcompensation is somehow masculine, now - how long ago was puberty?

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

do you think you interact with normal men?

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes.

Most deal with those prejudices at some point in their life, but they're more hunches, that they're quick to amend. They just have too much pride to run their life on an ant's base instincts.

I mean, really, the kind of deep seated prejudice you're talking about is not exactly higher order thought.

It's why you'll find the most widespread acceptance of it in prison.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever been around a group of blue collar white adult men for an extended period of time?

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes. But I don't know if you've noticed, but we're losing a lot of blue collar jobs lately. Most of the men I meet these days are in legal/law enforcement, military, the service industry, creative fields, health care, or tech.

And while white supremacists and the alt-right do their best to infiltrate all of these, I generally live in mixed neighborhoods - some good, some bad - that cleaned up their shit as they joined the 21st century.

The 50's are over. They're not coming back.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Who is talking about nazis, alt right or the 50s? Do you think police and military men are not "racist sexist and homophobic " in generic non internet meme ways? Do you think they're liberal progressives?

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the men and women in uniform I met were racially diverse, and their prejudices leaned more towards civilians who made their jobs harder.

Those few who were racist/sexist/homophobic were very open about it. Those who weren't, didn't mind sharing either. Overall, I wasn't exactly seeing them shaking in terror of anyone else's thoughts on the subject.

They all had more important things to worry about.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice strawman.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you draw that all by yourself?

[–]Alth12Purple Pill Man6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bingo. Here in the UK for example despite the crying from feminists about "lad culture", when you go out most women love it and get involved. Its only when some 18 year old takes it down the rape joke or rapey pick up line route they get uncomfortable.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I asked my girlfriend if she wanted to hear a rape joke. She said no but I told it to her anyway."

Women have laughed at that one before.

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beat me to it

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

People spend too much time on r/niceguys and similar subreddits which make fun of men with such opinions.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

fags

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

We don't, women are, and you're one of them who pretend it.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How do I pretend this, I'm the one who has REPEATEDLY SAID this?

Please try to learn English well enough to explain

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok that's fair. Understood your comment the other way around. It's so rare to have non hypocrite people on here I always expect hypocrisy by default.

I want to try to learn english well enough, but I can't pinpoint what my flaws are.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

It would be much more interesting if our "child rapist" had fucked a 6 year old, instead of a 15 year old. The latter can be forgivable, the former not so much. This guy could've been a high school senior or college freshman fucking freshmen girls. Not completely kosher, but not a sorry, warped pedophile.

why are you pretending that masculine opinions (misogyny, sexism, racism, etc ) are "unattractive" in the first place?

Lots of maladjusted, unattractive jackasses hold these opinions. People holding these beliefs also tend not to have their shit together. These guys have the halo effect on their side, and the muscles show that they're dedicated to something and have it together enough to engage in a lot of physical activity.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy12 points13 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

proceeds to move goalposts

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"4 points5 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

It is very strongly implied that our "child rapist" committed statutory rape, not pedophilia. People are much more forgiving of a "bad boy" that has sex with much younger girls than they are of a pedophile.

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn5 points6 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I don't believe it's specified as to what his charge was. It just says "Sexual Predator." I don't think it gives the age, and also people consider 16 and 17 year olds to be "children." It's only until they turn 18 that some form of magic happens overnight that transforms them into adults like Cinderella ready for the grown-up ball. Even if you have sex with a 16 year old girl, you're still labeled as a "pedophile."

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

It said that the girl turned 16 a week or two after they had sex. The implication is that his other convictions are for 15 year olds, not 5 year olds.

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn2 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

It also said that he was convicted of having sex with children two or three other times in addition to that. We don't know what the ages were, and I don't believe that information is listed on the USDOJ sex offender website. It just says "sex offender/sexual predator" and maybe "had sex with a minor." The word "minor" in the average person's mind means "child."

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Yes. But they have his attractiveness providing the halo effect, and a prior conviction for sex with a 15 year old girl. People might believe that his other convictions were pissed-off parents that were mad that some 19 year old dude was fucking their high-school-aged daughters.

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't think so. Usually, if people hear "sex with a minor," it's interpreted as "child," which automatically translates to "pedophile."

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Usually. However, he mentions the prior conviction for statutory rape of a 15 year old. It's not a big leap to think that he has a habit of fucking 15 year old girls, and that he got caught three times for it. There is a difference between outright pedophiles and the kind of guy that preys on 15-year-old girls.

[–]JustStatedTheObviousYou Probably Won't Believe It.0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

He made jokes about fucking children. The only one specified is that he had sex with a girl just a few weeks shy of being legal.

Surprise - some young women could relate to her side of the story. Not nearly as many as cynics would expect, considering how many profile views he had.

The rest of the blackpill was incels being shocked at any women going for anyone.

As usual.

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He made jokes about fucking children. The only one specified is that he had sex with a girl just a few weeks shy of being legal.

Yes, I know but he says that he was charge 3 times for having sex with minors. Only the one was specified. Also, the profile was obviously fake, but it was constructed to show how much looks matter. He admitted to having sex with children and being a convicted sex offender and women were still messaging him.

The rest of the blackpill was incels being shocked at any women going for anyone.

Lol.

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From my experience people are generally completely incapable of telling the difference between statutory rape and rape.

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women are attracted to your muscles because it shows dedication

What Fucking drugs are you on? I want some.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mainly aimed at BP's who are claiming that.

[–]trail220 points1 point  (35 children) | Copy Link

racism is attractive to most women ?

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪7 points8 points  (32 children) | Copy Link

no. its nto that "racism is attractive to women", its that masculine men tend to be racist, sexist, homophobic etc. aka masculine opinions. if your unattractive adopting a racist stance will not help

[–]trail224 points5 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

masculine men tend to be racist and homophobic?

What state do you live in ?

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪8 points9 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

where are liberal/sjw/lefty/progressive views considered masculine or to go with masulinity?

[–]Noxin__NixonPillPoppa10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

where are liberal/sjw/lefty/progressive views considered masculine or to go with masulinity?

All the NFL players who kneeled.

They are called cuck/SJW and worse by r/the_Donald yet in everything but perceived "social views" they are pretty much alpha/masculine/Red Pill ideal.

I'd say most women would probably consider LeSean McCoy more masculine than Donald Trump.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t think black people kneeling is cuck/SJW. That’s just a bunch of angry fashcucks being retarded.

[–]Noxin__NixonPillPoppa1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough but the_Donald definitely co-opted Red Pill terminology as their own.

[–]namdeirfnotlim1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Half of them are defending their own race. The other half isn't seen as more masculine because they knelt: they're so masculine that kneeling only took away a tiny bit of it.

[–]trail221 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Where is homophobia and racusm considered not mascuine... Every place where a colloge degree is common.

Every place where its not odd to see a person of color walkign down the street.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

lol you mean like 50% black philadelphia? hahahaha you kids are an innocent riot. racism among white men is highest where you se eLOTS of "people of color" lol you probably think i mean carign about indians or asians lol. dont worry, no one cares about indians or asians when they say "racism"

let me ask you agian, where is being lefty/sjw/liberal considered MASCULINE, not considered "good", "moral", "correct views" etc

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I also wanna tag onto your comment here and point out that in London ethnic minorities are the most openly racist of all and it does tie in with masculinity, i.e. the over controlling dominating Muslim men are the ones who use racial stereotypes against other groups constantly, and I knew this big Greek guy who was really chill but tough (ex-army, and actually is a police officer now) and if you ever spoke to him he'd say the kinda shit that'd make Reddit scream "RAPIST MISOGYNIST RACIST!" ten times over completely casually and absolutely no one gave a fuck.

I think these Reddit lefties ain't been out in real world much where people do indeed casually say mean things and no one cares as long as you're not a sperg about it (we're not talking about going on a faggy tirade about something seriously, it's all jokes) and aren't unattractive.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lol these foreign and California nerds have never met macho blue collar white, black or hispanic guys in their lives. It's like they have no idea what men OR women are like

[–]trail220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess you are from the "Real America" Right.

And by nerd you mean college educated who hangs out with college educated people?

I guess Im not mascuine because I went to a friends lesbian wedding. I guess Im not masculine because I have black, asian, indian, and mexican friends.

I guess my friend who lives in mexico doesnt count because that person came here as an adult, and got a master degree.

I guess my other mexican friend who used to be an alcoholic doesnt count either. I guess my black frined who is tryign to make it in Hip Hop doesnt count either because he went to Howard and his fallback is to go to lawschool.

I guess my friends who spent 6 months to 2 years in jail dont count either.

I guess one of my best friends, honestly one of the best peopel I know who spent time propping up the dictatoships in the phillipines as a part of the airforce isnt manly.

I'm pretty sure he has killed a few people. He of course would never admit to any of it and doesnt even talk about it. A filipino guy gave him a guitar for saving his life though. He would spend his free time there goign into villages and helping with medical efforts instead of whoring in town.

Maybe you are the one with a narrow view of people.

Racsism/homophobia aren't manly to me. They are cowardly. They reak of fear of not only the unknown but of themself.

[–]dakruNeither0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol these foreign and California nerds have never met macho blue collar white, black or hispanic guys in their lives. It's like they have no idea what men OR women are like

Macho blue collar people aren't the only kind of people or the default kind of people, though.

[–]trail220 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Im pretty sure I'm aroudn you age.

But you are right. I dont live in the ghetto.

[–]sunkindonut149Blue Pill Mouse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think racism qua racism in an American context is usually viewed as between black and white, other forms of bias are generally called bigotry or prejudice but not racism -

[–]sunkindonut149Blue Pill Mouse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Homophobia is very common here in NYC. I was on the train when some old man started yelling at lesbians for making out.

[–]IHeartDay90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right? Where I am, a homophobic dude would get ridiculed for being insecure in his masculinity. Like straight up laughed at by masculine men. Ditto on anything more than mild sexism, unless they were obviously joking. Racism isn't really a thing amongst the younger generation, so I can't really comment on it.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

They also run in packs of like minded men. A lone racist is usually a maladjusted, isolated jackass.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

You keep saying maladjusted and isolated. What do these mean? They stray away from group think? They think for themselves? Why is maladjusted or isolated an inherently bad thing?

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

These assholes are usually angry, isolated men disliked by most and tolerated by a few people. They are not usually happy guys. People are social animals, and isolation is bad for us.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

People are social animals, and isolation is bad for us.

Ah profound. Is that why some people choose to be hermits? Is that why introverts exist? I know it's hard to imagine someone else thinking differently than you do, but please try.

These assholes are usually angry, isolated men disliked by most and tolerated by a few people

which assholes? The racists, who can organize a large protesting event through social media in the modern digital age? The alt-right losers who got together and elected Donald Trump? Tolerated by few? Hardly believe that. Just because it's not tolerated by you, doesn't mean it's tolerated by few.

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masculine

What's hilarious is that the happiest man in the world is a French Buddhist monk. He's spent well over 10k hours meditating in solitude. And yet "isolation is bad for us". Right.

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Do you think most people would be happy and well-adjusted living in isolation? Do you think it might be possible that this French Buddhist monk is peculiar and not a good representative of "humans" as a whole?

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You don't start off "jumping off the deep end" in isolation. You learn the theory and philosophy first and begin training your mind. After this it isn't uncommon to go on solitary retreat for several years at a time. [3-4 years or so of straight meditating 12 hours a day] I think if most people gave it a chance they would be much happier than they are currently, their brain would be healthier, and they would be more compassionate and better adjusted.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She presents bandwagon arguments like a school child. "these guys are losers and have NOOO FRIENDS".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

lol wut? Most of the time you make good arguments points, but here you make zero sense.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol you're all so funny

[–]OfSpock1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It doesn't bother racist women.

[–]trail220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

good point.

[–]TheBlackQuillMisanthrope4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Why is it a surprise that people who have power (looks/wealth/status) can do anything and get away with it? Authority = asskicking. Why does it matter that BP claim it turn women off? Maybe it is true for them but not necessarily true for others. Who cares if they don't find it attractive? Find someone else who can gloss over it. After all, Evil is cool trope exists for a reason...

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Cause this is purple pill debate BP vs RP

[–]TheBlackQuillMisanthrope1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol yeah, I kind of mean it as a rhetoric tbh 😓

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not BP who claim it turns women off. It's just all women in here.

[–]TheBlackQuillMisanthrope1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe it is true for them. Doesn't mean it is true for others. Most women here can only speak for themselves and other women they know anyway. And frankly, why it matters if women here don't find it attractive? I personally don't find the guy in the pic he posted attractive, but certainly, there are other women who do. There many fishes in the water after all...

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most women here do not claim to speak for themselves but for woman kind. The premise being that being a terpie is never going to work because of personality reasons and because looks do not matter that much. They do not just say "It's not going to work for me"...

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[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

They're too pretty to be straight. That's how you know they are fake profiles. The women who responded don't get it, but it's pretty obvious to anyone with a bit of sense (so, not women).

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I know right. I remember reading right here on ppd posts from some crazy people about how they created fake posts just like those. Maybe they date back to before the incel ban or something. Weird.

[–]honeypuppy2 points3 points  (34 children) | Copy Link

None of these "experiments" even try to have some kind of control (or even show all their data). It wouldn't be that hard to use the same photos with different bios and compare the results. But all we can ever conclude from them is "some women will be interested in very attractive men with questionable profiles". Ok, but what does that tell us about how they would have done with a less objectionable profile? Nothing.

(By the way, it suffers from the same objection, but someone did a similar experiment with an attractive but totally horrible woman and also got a lot of attention).

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 8 points9 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

Right but men will deal with anything to get pussy. Women are the selectors and they're claiming personality > looks. Clearly isn't true

[–]honeypuppy5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

But these "experiments" don't prove that personality doesn't matter at all, the most they show is that some women are willing to hook up with very attractive men who have questionable personalities (and don't forget, there are women with questionable personalities as well).

It's plausible these men would get even more attention if they displayed better personalities, but there's no way to tell because the "experimenter" doen't even try to find this out.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's plausible these men would get even more attention if they displayed better personalities

Right, I agree, I'm not claiming these traits make men more attractive. I'm claiming looks > personality. Go make a profile of an average guy with the best personality traits you can imagine and he will get 1/100th of the matches.

[–]honeypuppy0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't really disagree, but I don't think that tells you very much in the very visual, hook-up orientated medium that is Tinder. It's also using extreme examples of top 0.01% male models. What practical benefit is that to you?

On the other hand, if a bad personality does cause a significant penalty, that's a point against your claim that "Incels aren't incel because of their personality". Yeah, maybe they can't do as well as asshole supermodels no matter how good their personalities are. But they could still do better than they are now, and that's all that really matters.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree but my point is the main thing they need to worry about is looks.

[–]honeypuppy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

But it's not really possible to go from "average guy" to "male model". Or to the extent that you can, it takes a huge amount of work.

However, you can choose to stop being an asshole at any moment. And it's the right thing to do anyway, even if it doesn't help you get laid.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

However, you can choose to stop being an asshole at any moment. And it's the right thing to do anyway, even if it doesn't help you get laid.

Being a selfish asshole has much many merits than you're making it out to be.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 3 points4 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Yea because the amount of women who fuck dogs is equivalent to the amount of women who prioritize looks > personality? GTFO out of here.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 3 points4 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

go ahead and make a profile of a below average looking guy with tons of your perfect personality traits. See how many matches he gets

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 5 points6 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Right, umm, what are we talking about again? Women prioritize looks > personality. I think we're in agreement but you seem to be in a bad mood lol

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy Link

Lol you don't sound RP at all. good luck, Chad

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Dude. Fuck off with the personal attacks. The mods should give you a time out, but you're just insulting an incel. It's not like you're attacking a bloop.

[–]washington_breadstixM'gtow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you said ''dogs'' I thought you meant ugly men and now I wish I could unsee those google results. Just why.

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"some women will be interested in very attractive men with questionable profiles"

Which is completely different from the "no women will be interest in very attractive men with questionable profiles" that we get served by women in here.

If you listen to women on PPD, you can be as beautiful as you want, you're getting nothing if you're not faithful, respectful and other plenty of other personality and behavioral trait, ect.... Which is wrong.

Now it's clear that this doesn't prove that looks are going to make all women want you despite who you are, but that isn't the same thing.

[–]honeypuppy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Who has ever said anything like that? Can you find quotes? Usually it seems they're referring to what they personally believe, they're not saying that literally all women agree with them.

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't find quotes. But even if they mean themselves, they probably aren't aware what shit they can take for an attractive man.

[–]namdeirfnotlim1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most men on dating sites never get a message. There's your control group.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 5 points6 points  (55 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. But most BPers will claim incels can't get laid because of personality, not looks.

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn1 point2 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

Well, think of it like this:

There's an empty container and a flask filled with liquid. There's also a line drawn somewhere on the container. This container and line represent the woman's "attracted" level. The moment she sees you, water is poured into the empty container in relation to her attraction level for you. If it's far above the line, you're golden. More water is added for personality, but also taken away for personality. If you don't dip below the line, you're having sex, and if you're very attractive and can at least show some signs of intelligence and sociability, you most likely won't fall below the line. Ever.

However, if she sees you and you're far below the line, the only thing that might help add water to the container is your personality. You basically need to be the inverse of the above scenario to get the woman to consider you as a sexual partner (i.e., you need to be as attractive in personality as the man in the example above was physically).

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 4 points5 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

Right, but what I'm saying is looks provide much more volume than personality ever would

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn1 point2 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Right, but if you're that low, it's no surprise that people wouldn't want to have sex with you. People aren't "supposed to be" attracted to everyone. You're either attractive because your parents had good genes, or you're not because your parents had bad genes.

I know people don't like the thought of the possibility that nobody wants to sleep with them, but it is what it is.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 5 points6 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

We're in full agreement. Most of incels have bad genes, no personality will save them.

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Well, they could always do what their parents likely did and continue the low quality trend of their genetic history by finding someone with poor genetics.

Or they could also revert back to the previous "strategy" of rape to carry on their lineage....

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] -1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Or just stop caring about lineage

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Hard to ignore sexual urges.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

sexual urges != reproductive urges.

Go visit a hooker

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I've seen 5'4" guys get women

So have I. at a german whorehouse.

I've seen bald guys, guys with autism, guys with missing limbs, guys with ugly faces all improve to the point where they got dates and found attractive women to be with, date or plate or have LTR with.

ah they ALL found attractive women to be with xD. Seems likely.

I wonder what all the unattractive women do... seems like you've got a statistical error in your data.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Why do you care what I do?

I'm not going to work for nothing! It's owed to me because, that guy over there that works hard at improving himself gets women and I don't!

I AM not going to work for nothing. Haha you still can't get over the fact that work/effort doesn't equal reward. Stop defining your self worth with how much pussy you get.

[–]shoup88Report me bitch0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

It's a combination of both. Almost no one is entirely unfuckable, but some people definitely need to bump up their personality and status if they have subpar looks.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's mainly looks tho

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Which most incels are unwilling to improve.

"Wah wah I'm short so there's no point in grooming and dressing well."

No wonder you look like shit then mate.

The shortcels in particular seem to be the new trend now. But it's still excuses. I knew a short black guy who was a porn star. He rocked up to BDSM clubs and fucked multiple women easy. He had mad charisma tho.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Which most incels are unwilling to improve.

Self improvement for the sole reason to impress others is pathetic.

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You're right, they should want to improve themselves for their own good.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

some people definitely need to bump up their personality and status

No. Fucking. Shit. If you let your personality and character go to total shit, don't be surprised when your life follows your personality into the toilet.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

woa, take it easy

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 4 points5 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Wtf are you on about? Devote your life to something meaningful, not pussy.

Worse yet, guys who want other guys to give up, not improve themselves, cause it won't make any difference

For many men, short of being rich and famous their looks/height/whatever WILL prevent them from achieving the sex they will try so hard to get that other guys get for almost free.

Improving yourself doesn't have to mean doing everything in your life to try to attract women. Your life worth isn't about how much pussy you get.

That shit can't be tolerated.

What can't be tolerated is BPer's thinking they're red pilled. Improving yourself for the sole reason of pussy is the most gynocentric, BP thing you can do.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 3 points4 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

When you are happy with you, guess what happens next?

And I'm the dense one.. LOL. you're naive. Many times, NOTHING happens next. Women don't care if you're happy with yourself if you aren't attractive.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 2 points3 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I don't consider myself unattractive

So you're happy being unattractive and you think there's nothing you can do about it...

If it were true what the fuck is wrong with that? Can't be happy without mommy gf telling you you are? Dude you're BP af

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Personal attack. I won't be a little bitch and report your comment, but I recommend you delete it.

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You think I have alt accounts? You dumb motherfucker. How is a list of my comments evidence that I have alts? I don't need a list of my comments; I've already got one. It's verra nice. You think I'm OP, and I'm hassling you about your multiple rule violations? What the fuck good would that do him? He could just report your personal attacks himself, if he didn't want to confront you directly.

Okay, I checked his profile, and his account is way newer than mine. I guess that would make him my alt. I suppose I completely change my writing style when I'm him, to throw people who aren't as sharp as you off my trail. Yes. That must be it. I have no post karma because I only post on my alt accounts, and reserve my original account for comments defending my alts from shitheads who insult my alter egos. Yeah, that totally would make sense if I was a fucking retard. We're you born stupid, or were you dropped on your head a lot?

[–]monkeybeast550 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's just wrong. Conversation comes first, and being able to make her laugh and feel wanted. And basic health, like not being obese or totally sickly looking. And, sure, SMV plays a role. But, no, I don't think looks come first for either sex. From what I know, studies confirm this.

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Conversation does not come first. If someone is ugly, people have little desire (and reason) to speak to them. If the choice is given between an attractive person and an unattractive person, everyone will almost always choose the attractive person to want to speak with. You don't need to talk very much to have sex. Conversation is relevant mostly when considering LTR's. If an attractive guy, say 9/10, can show some basic social skills and intelligence, he's on par with a guy who looks 5/10, but has high intelligence and social skills, because people can overlook some flaws in the presence of other benefits.

Edit: Studies also confirm that you look like dumber and less credible if you make statements that reference studies confirming them without citing any sources.

[–]monkeybeast550 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can I ask you where you get this view from? Is it from reading? From direct live experience? From online experience? If direct live experience, what age group and what social circles? Work peers vs. college peers vs. high school peers vs. bar scene vs. Meetup groups?

I'm in my upper 50s (male), and I've been around a bit. In my experience woman are attracted to someone who has something to offer that matches what they need. Duh. Yeah, some woman on some days may need a fuck from a pretty boy with a big dick. But most woman just want to have some fun, laugh, feel wanted, feel emotion, learn something new, feel secure, blah blah blah. And they need to feel like they're with someone healthy. If you're overweight and unhealthy, that's very different from ugly. High intelligence is probably only a factor with certain woman. Attractiveness is based on so many factors, and is different for different people.

In a tinder-based online world, meh. Whatever works for magazines probably works for online dating sites. Who cares. It's not real.

In terms of studies, I can't find the one I was thinking of right now... Hopefully it will come to me. But see http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sex/articles/results/mates.shtml. Though I didn't mean to put overdue weight on these kind of studies, as there's lots of issues as to how they're conducted.

[–]TheBookOfSeilCuckleberry Finn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It really depends on the context of the situation, but if we're talking about a strict, natural confrontation between two strangers, your immediate physical appearance is going to have an effect on what the other person thinks of you.

It mostly, if not only in environments where you're forced to be around each other constantly (such as work or school) that other factors come into play. It's well-known that proximity and familiarity are important factors in a woman's attraction level. Also, if you're constantly around each other, and are forced to interact, there will be a natural "familiarization" process that happens, such as when you get better acquainted with your coworkers or classmates, but that's about the only time these things happen.

If you're both strangers trying to meet each other, appearance creates interest because there is nothing else contributing to it.

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

All this shows is that some women are just as shallow about looks as most men, especially when all they are after at the moment is casual sex. Most women who want a legitimate relationship are definitely going to screen for personality as well as looks, or at least they are going to try to.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

but which would you say is more important?

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Looks are more important, of course. But I don't think it makes up for personality except among men who are among the top tier of men appearance wise. I agree with you that top-tier men appearance wise can get away with a lot when it comes to finding casual sex with women who are open to having it. Most women who want relationships will eventually tire of a hot man if he has a crap personality.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

But I don't think it makes up for personality except among men who are among the top tier of men appearance wise.

well, personality almost never makes up for bad looks

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that men can do a lot to improve their looks, a lot more than most men usually try to do. Whenever I've bothered to make an concerted effort (meaning spending substantial money on my hair and wardrobe and a significant amount of time in the gym) I'm always surprised at how much more female attention I get. I'm average looking, but I'm pretty sure that the same principle would work for unattractive men as well.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

thats where i disagree with most BPs as well. red pillers can probably get laid, they're just violently misogynistic and toxic.

Right? An ethical argument is much better than the quasi virgin shaming

thinking one small selection of a group represents the rest of the group is prejudice.

Sure but it's just evidence of how BP's narrative doesn't always hold water

[–]Daddy_Patty2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You guys are ugly with an ugly personality. Guys can get away with this type of behavior if they're ridiculously attractive, top 1% super models. But they're still going to do significantly worse than their top 1% counterparts that have good personalities.

Do you really think these guys wouldn't do significantly better if they had better bios? I can promise you that while plenty of women were still interested in these fake men, despite their self portrayal as complete assholes, there are plenty of women who were not interested because of their self portrayal.

If you're exactly average looking, and exactly average height, and you are poorly groomed, poorly dressed and don't do any exercise, and are in poor shape, then you're already below average. So, being below average, you're going to have more trouble attracting people of the same sex. Then you combine that with an awful personality, and the fact that your primary hobby is posting misogynistic horse shit on Reddit. What the fuck do you expect?

If you don't believe me, go ahead and do your own experiment. Make two Tinder profiles. Use any pictures you want, just make the photos identical for both profiles. On one of the profiles, post some douchey bio. On another, post something that represents a genuine, interesting man that women "only claim they love". Claim to be a feminist, say you play the guitar, or volunteer at an animal shelter, whatever. I guarantee you the second one will do significantly better.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

bl00ps claim that personality is the main factor in attraction is nothing but horseshit. That's my point.

You can strawman all you want. call me ugly or whatever, it doesn't counter my point.

[–]1UPZ_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

well no shit, both sexes fantasise about good looking people when it comes to physical intimacy.

men don't picture themselves having sex with the 50 year old lady at the canteen with saggy arms and muffin top showing from their shirt.

women don't imagine themselves having sex with that overweight guy wearing a baggy unwashed shirt and messy facial hair at the copy room.

The one thing that's giving the imbalance is...

Most Men, all forms/ages/types are horny.... the demand for average, semi-average, pretty, hot women are something like 3:1.... so those women gets to choose.

I'm not going to say "improve yourself" to find a sexual partner... but improve yourself doesnt just mean that... it also means changing your focus away from getting laid, improve your mental well being... be content or happy doing other things rather than women. We've evolved to be able to do things, think in very complicated manners not so that we can have sex as much as possible... but to do things, experience things and contribute to society somewhat and somehow.. and ultimately find inner peace at that.

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Eliot Rodger was an attractive, well-dressed, rich dude.

He also had a ludicrous entitlement problem and a dogshit personality.

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[–]wattwattyOld and reddish3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, I didn't quite expect to only see:

  • "men do it too!" and
  • paper-thin excuses

as pretty much the only top-level replies, but there you go. Even the usual criticisms of the "design" of the experiment were pretty half-hearted.

I imagine the women of PPD sitting in front of their screens saying, "Yeah, I'd fuck 'em too."

[–]MorpheusGodOfDreamsCaught Red Handed4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

isn't it hilarious that women try so hard to appear above male shallowness, then immediately discard that when pressed? Same with "equality"

This exact lie is why men flock to TRP.

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"flock."

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Kids are way tighter than your beef curtain cunts"?!???!? Jesus tittyfucking Christ! None of those chicks could give a shit how awful that totally real guy was. They saw a photo of a hot, gay male model on a profile seeking women and creamed their jeans. I won't try to change your view. Women are shallow as fuck.

[–]Ultramegasaurus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just look at the huge amounts of women who choose and stay with abusive or even criminal men.

Women don't care as long as you're attractive. And some personality flaws are even celebrated by women then, e.g. bad boy behavior.

[–]BPremiumMeh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. The disparity is quite apparent. Nothing anyone can/will do though. Women have all the power unless you can look like these guys.

[–]Noxin__NixonPillPoppa0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't think being attractive alone makes up for a having a host of undesirable traits but being attractive + rich/powerful and then you might be on to something

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well these guys get more matches than most men do

[–]EliteSpartanRangerNice Guys Don't Ask For Rewards0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Maybe the women who said "I dig your bio" happen to be women with internalized misogyny. Maybe they're RP women?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesnt seem like it

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Internalized misogyny isn't a real thing. It's a bunch of bullshit feminists made up to feel better about the fact that not all women follow their batshit-crazy ideology. Like they made up patriarchy to explain why men seem to be better at everything, when women are obviously superior beings.

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Like they made up patriarchy to explain why men seem to be better at everything

Oh yea dude, TOTALLY made up! It's not like we have all of history that shows that men held/hold all positions of power. It's not as if women were held down for centuries!

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women outnumber men, and have the right to vote. Also, studies have shown that when women run, women win. A female candidate will beat a male candidate more often than not, so the only reason we don't currently have a female majority in Congress is that women can't be bothered to do the job. They probably believe the feminist narrative that they are oppressed in this society, so they figure they can't win. Either way, not patriarchy.

As to women being held down for centuries, those centuries are over. They are history. This is the 21st century, and we would have had a woman President by now, if Hillary Clinton wasn't the most hated and least trusted woman in America.

[–]EliteSpartanRangerNice Guys Don't Ask For Rewards0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

If a woman disses another woman for being prettier than her and chooses to sabotage her in the workplace, it's internalized misogyny.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

No, it is not. It puts the lie to the idea that men are competitive, while women are cooperative (because women are wonderful). It's evidence that women are at least as competitive as men, at least when it comes to dating and mating. Women will destroy each other for a tiny advantage in the dating market. This is where slut-shaming comes from; women trying to devalue the competition. Men don't slut shame.

If you can't at least come up with a plausible connection between a woman sabatoging another woman who she considers a threat to her chances of landing the best possible mate, and internalized misogyny, I'm going to continue to regard your comment as utter bullshit. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

[–]EliteSpartanRangerNice Guys Don't Ask For Rewards0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women will destroy each other for a tiny advantage in the dating market.

I'd say that's a type of internalized misogyny.

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course you would say that, bless your heart. Would you say that a man who would destroy other men for a tiny advantage in the dating market was suffering from internal misandry? Do you even acknowledge that misandry exists? No. That man is just hypercompetitive: probably a result of toxic masculinity.

I reiterate: If you can't at least come up with a plausible connection between a woman sabatoging another woman who she considers a threat to her chances of landing the best possible mate, and internalized misogyny, I'm going to continue to regard your comment as utter bullshit. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

You can say anything you want, but you have not come up with a plausible connection, and I don't expect you to. If you can't come up with a more persuasive argument than, "I'd say...", then don't bother replying; you've already lost the debate.

[–]EliteSpartanRangerNice Guys Don't Ask For Rewards0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Would you say that a man who would destroy other men for a tiny advantage in the dating market was suffering from internal misandry?

Yes, I would.

I think that people who tear down others in the same situation as themselves to get ahead are assholes, and that people who are in the same situation (ie men trying to get a date, women trying to get into the workplace) should work together not tear each other down.

That man is just hypercompetitive: probably a result of toxic masculinity.

Toxic masculinity is a type of internalized misandry.

Just like toxic femininity is a type of internalized misogyny

Seriously, lift each other up and you all rise, tear each other down and even the "winner" ends up worse than they could if they just helped each other.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They like it because it's taboo.

[–]pinkgoldrose0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't make up for it. These guys would have no chance with good women, but there are women who are into misogyny, racism and have bad personalities themselves.

Hot guy with douchebag bio will get messaged by douchebag women.

Hot guy with nice bio will get messages by nice women.

Plus some women are thirsty, same as men can be thirsty.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hot guy with douchebag bio will get messaged by douchebag women.

Below average guy with nice bio will get messages by no women.

[–]BPremiumMeh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol women arent thirsty. Maybe a bit parched, but only for the top guys

[–]namdeirfnotlim0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, the douchebag will get messaged by women who think they can change him, because a beautiful guy must have a beautiful heart deep inside and she'll be the one to tame his dark side.

[–]Merger-ArbitrageTriggermaster, Non-Pill, Cutting through the crap...0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

This trash is so easily Photoshopped I don't even know where to begin. And bots. Lord have mercy on anyone that doesn't take this with a Mallacamax of salt.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

really find it that hard to believe?

[–]Merger-ArbitrageTriggermaster, Non-Pill, Cutting through the crap...0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's easy to fake and provides entertainment for people who have nothing to do with their life. If the posts are real and not Photoshop, it could be bots replying.

Have any of these claims been confirmed/checked in any way?

[–]1UPZ_0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It could be photoshopped but its not far fetch...

most of those women probably think or assume he's joking.

And thats the point.. If the photo was that of an ugly dude, they'll assume he's serious and call him creepy...

but since he's good looking, some (most) assume he's joking.

Which is a concern...

If a good looking man walks in a public place with a suspicious bag, most women would probably check him out and fantasise about him.

If an ugly looking man walks in a public place with a suspicious bag, those same women would probably call the cops or bomb squad.

[–]Merger-ArbitrageTriggermaster, Non-Pill, Cutting through the crap...0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree more attractive people are given at least some preferential treatment.

I'm 50/50 on it being a total fake or a serious cherry-picking of responses (including bots).

[–]Entropy-7Old Goat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

By that logic I am hotter than I thought.

[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This approach is equivalent to saying...

“Usain Bolt can outrage the guys in my local pub... even if he doesn’t try to run fast!”

Top 0.01% of the population by looks so get treated differently. As do the top 0.01% by status.

That has very little bearing on what is useful for the 99%.

Crying “Wasaaah! Usain Bolt will be faster than me no matter what I do. I bet he could be faster than me carrying a sack of potatoes” is probably true too. Doesn’t effect the fact that hard work and improvement and training can mean you can run faster than 98% of the general population.

This within the 99% by looks, or by status, aren’t going to be able to be “paedophile KKK members with a scat fetish” and still get laid regularly.

The rules are different at the very tippy top. That doesn’t mean that normal rules don’t apply for everyone else... and that by learning what those rules are, and moulding yourself to use them properly, can’t make you successful in with the rest of the 99% who aren’t “male model level good looking”.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, but BPers will claim that personality will affect attraction more than looks. Which is clearly untrue.

[–]madeofivory0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hey man shallow people will continue to be shallow. There's nothing other people can do to make them change. People like this will always be willing to overlook or rationalize these horrible traits in the people they find attractive.

But these particular girls are simply not indicative of all women. Both men and women are equally capable of being shallow.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

But these particular girls are simply not indicative of all women.

Just most

my point's not that they're shallow. My point is personality doesn't matter that much.

[–]madeofivory0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And I'm saying that personality doesn't matter to these types of people, man or woman.

The thing I think a lot of people don't understand, especially the guys that say girls only like attractive assholes, is that most of the time in order to be considered attractive you have to have a balance between your good qualities and bad ones, both physical and personality-wise.

For example, if you're as much of an asshole as you are beautiful, funny, or fun to be around, people in general are willing to overlook that person's assholishness or incel bullshit. Shallow people like these girls are an extreme case of this. They will look at his pictures and disregard everything else because to them, this man is as beautiful as he is a hateful misogynist.

Whether or not you believe most women are like this is your opinion, and that's fine. But everything you've said can be equally said about men too.

[–]HitchensTwoPointOhBetapiller turned Chadderfly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

All personality does is separate you from those within your caste of visceral attractiveness.

*note there is still a difference between personality and power/social status

[–]wprtogh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not a BPer, but I'll give you a counterargument. It's of the form "not all women are like that" but it's perhaps different from ones you've heard before.

Internet dating is a meat market. It used to be a little more highbrow than that but ever since the rise of Tinder, online dating interactions have degenerated to the most superficial and exploitive form possible.

I focus on Tinder because that's where most of the blackpill memes came from. The vast supermajority of users are there for hookups. The women of Tinder are, as you described, just looking for hot, belligerant, dangerous men.

So these blackpill tests say more about Tinder's community than about women in general. Of course the people looking for casual sex only care about appearance. If they weren't superficial they'd be looking for relationships, not hookups! They'd be looking somewhere else!

Take into account people who eschew online dating, and you'll get a different picture. 88% of committed relationships begun in the last 5 years started offline.

Tl;dr: Your statement is absolutely true of the hookup community but not true in general.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it varies person by person, but is a rule for both sexes. If you're just looking for an easy lay, you don't care about the actual person. Girls will jump into bed with a hot douchebag if they're looking for a one night stand. Guys will chase a hot girl who acts like a bitch for the same reason.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m a huge douchebag and I know it I don’t give a shit because I’m tall and look like a Ralph Lauren model (thanks steroids).

Women love me, all sorts it doesn’t matter. I smashed so many sjw cum sock hipsters at my college and they don’t give a fuck. I have a Reagan picture in my living room and a Pinochet no fucks given pic on my fridge.

Hell I made the feminist leader of our women in engineering club wear my Make America great again hat as I fucked her. Snap chatted thatctocthe frat brothers and college republican.

Steroids = the shit

Hell even SARMS are pretty cool.

[–]Noxin__NixonPillPoppa0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Convicted child rapist getting so many matches as well

That is misleading. His profile makes it sound like he got popped for STATUATORY rape which is completely different than saying "child rapist" as if he was a kiddie molester.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No shit. Make that 15 year old girl that he had sex with five years old, and see how many matches he gets. Post some information about how he loves elementary school girls and toddlers, and see how many women match with him. His match rate would drop like a fucking rock.

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I suppose

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It also sounds like an obvious joke and, as I pointed out last time this was posted here, the profile could have easily been edited after the matches.

[–]Wolfen_To-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't agree with this. Though ugly/unattractive men do perhaps develop misogynistic beliefs more often than their attractive peers due to their bitterness at not attracting women, while good looking men don't share this inherent resentment (though there are misogynistic good looking guys).

[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with this.

any reason why?

men do perhaps develop misogynistic beliefs more often than their attractive peers due to their bitterness at not attracting women

is it their bitterness at not attracting women per say or they're bitterness at seemingly hypocritical decisions women make?

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

didn't mean to trigger you.

Most women aren't desirable to be around full stop. Their value is between their legs. Go ahead hang out with all these desirable women all you want. Sex is what matters to most men.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

WTF are you on about? TRP implores every man to never LTR or marry; just spin plates. Spending time with them is not part of the equation. Idk if you're flair is wrong or you're some kind of misguided "married RP" person.

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[–]Scatrereal feminist[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Really bad news for you but spinning plates involves spending time with them

Lol what is your argument? Spending time with plates is done out of NECESSITY not because men enjoy doing it, you fucking goofball. If you're claiming men spin plates because they enjoy the time and not the sex, why wouldn't they LTR? Terrible argument, try again.

imagining a sex life that is show up bang and leave is ridiculous

it's not an imagination. it's called prostitution lmao

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