Field ReportJust dumped gf of two months. Feel pretty good. (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]Redpillkid 676 points677 points  (40 children)

This has to be most rp thing I've ever read. Congrats mate.

[–]newlifeasredpill 324 points325 points  (27 children)

Agreed. Note the many downvoted comments that OP acted whiny and ran away.or fucked up by playing the game.

They dont realize that:

She definitely invited the guy to show up and neither she or he were "joking"

The only reason the girl is chasing OP and didn't get with the guy is that OP showed much more value than him. Her desire for OP shot through the roof and she no longer has interest in the other guy.

This is not just a strategy for plates. When your LTR shows signs of attraction to another guy you do samw thing minus the hard next.

Express zero hurt. Make it seem like its funny that she has a crush. Act like a cocky ass who would laugh at her making the mistake of a lifetime as "its all downhill from here babe"

Well done

[–]Bearhardy 107 points108 points  (5 children)

Yeah she was going to blow him eventually anyway, OP made the right choice and even with style, nice going OP.

I have realized that you just can't win with them, you just have to cut your losses, next and walk away, it's not easy but it's that or keep dying inside, never surrender be that captain of your soul

[–]2wiseclockcounter 36 points37 points  (4 children)

be the conductor of your soul train and rail bitches.

[–]RatherPlayChess 28 points29 points  (1 child)

I prefer "Be the gardener of your thoughts, not the soil in which they are grown."

[–]InferiousX 28 points29 points  (2 children)

When your LTR shows signs of attraction to another guy

Exactly this.

LTRs work best when this kind of shit comes up and your remind her that she's replaceable. Never in my 10+ dating history have I seen any woman backpedal faster than when she thinks another woman might take her spot. This is from dating nice girls, ghetto chicks, strippers and professionals alike. Universal truism.

[–]the_red_scimitar 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yup. And never forget you are the prize. A very recent plate (2nd at-home date tonight) was begun very definitely with her knowing I actively date others, one of whom for two years now. I'm openly non-monogamous and everybody I date knows it.

Previous home-date was mine, so, she invites me to her place, and I comment that if I go there, she won't see my Saturnalia decorations. She texts, "Well, if you play your cards right, I may come over during the week").

My response: "MY cards, eh?"

Result: Total backpedal. Plausible deniability, "haha, just kidding. You know that, right? Right??? RIGHT???" (okay, I added the last two "rights", but the rest is real).

And I plan to be very busy next week. Xmas and all, you know?

[–]newlifeasredpill 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Now there is something you and I can certainly agree on. The man and his time are the true prize. Women and their pussies? Not so much. Commodities.

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[–]redpillerinnyc 2 points3 points  (0 children)


I'm not a spelling nazi usually but damn.

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[–]Gorillalpha 19 points20 points  (5 children)

He means that when you're in a long term relationship, instead of actually dumping her, just use this as dread game (or to punish a shit test, I guess).

[–]newlifeasredpill 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Correct. Its gonna happen that your wife will start talking about some new guy at work or some other kids dad is kinda "funny". The wrong approach is to ask a million questions and start mate guarding.

Instead you tease her about her new boyfriend. Ask if he sent any love letters today etc. Make sure you are treating this like its hysterical and it doesnt phase you a bit. Also run some dread and pull back on the comfort. Be a little busier than normal.

[–]Redpillkid 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Op only made one mistake,and that is making a girlfriend out of a clearly non-girlfriend material chick. She should have been a plate with those atributes(tatoos,cc history). From the story you can see that op is nowhere near mastering the red pill philosophy( he made a gf out of totaly wrong girl, he was "dying inside" when he realised that she is into doing the bet,and you can still see some emotional attachment from him) but he scored 100 points on his test and did the best thing he could in the given circumstances.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Some of us will never be a RP master but his RP training paid off.

"Dying inside" is not wrong, its a feeling and a call to action. His actions were measured and controlled. Kudos to him.

He may not be a master but he's now a Legend!

[–]Ibex3D 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yeah. It takes nothing to drop a girl if you have no emotional investment in her. It takes everything if you care for her. It's like that one quote:

"Courage is not the lack of fear but the ability to face it"

[–]1Dev_on 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No ones perfect. Figure if a guy stopes before she popps out a kid and a weight problem, he is a winner.

Just a matter of how long it takes

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

For real I'm impressed. Hats off to you op.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah feel no regrets man, you have nothing to feel sorry for. Way to go! :D

[–]1NPIF 302 points303 points  (16 children)

Love it. You shamed her and directly raised your value through your entire social circle by being able to walk away from a woman who was unworthy of your affections and who would be willing to choose an AMOG over you. So long as you have other plates and really don't care about losing this one, that's a solid way to end the relationship and punish bad behaviour.

[–]NeopolitanAfterglow 156 points157 points  (14 children)

Even if he had no one else, it was still the right thing to do.

[–][deleted] 100 points101 points  (10 children)

Better to be alone, than with a girl trying to suck another mans cock" -Ghandi

[–]applesaucejenkins 40 points41 points  (5 children)

"Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks" - Ben Franklin

[–]saruin 23 points24 points  (0 children)

"And these hoes will never be loyal.... llloooyyaaalll" - Lorde

[–]the_red_scimitar 6 points7 points  (1 child)

"Don't believe everything you read on the interwebz" - Abraham Lincoln

Or "A-Link", as we call him.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I giggled at A-Link. Thanks for that.

[–]bodhisattv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hey ram. you have no idea how hard I laughed at this. fucking unexpected.

[–]longerdistance 49 points50 points  (1 child)

That's what the "mentality" part of abundance mentality means.

[–]79965f468621 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You always have yourself. Self respect isn't worth all the plates in the world.

[–]brotherjustincrowe 206 points207 points  (12 children)

Best way to dump a ho ever.

[–]Philhelm 176 points177 points  (10 children)

No, the best is in Total Recall when Arnold Schwarzenegger shoots Sharon Stone right between the eyes and says, "Considah daht dah dahvorce!"

This was pretty good too though.

[–]Valreddit99 49 points50 points  (9 children)

[–]Newdist2 32 points33 points  (8 children)

That scene wouldn't be made today.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (1 child)

Because of social justice warriors ninnies... It's only a great one liner if it's a woman doing the shooting.

[–]widec 9 points10 points  (4 children)

There's a lot of scenes even just a couple of decades ago that would catch large amounts of flak if they were made today. I think it might warrant a post once I get a day off.

[–]waynebradysworld 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Watch the longest yard.

Not the carebear Adam Sandler version. The macho Burt Reynolds version.

In the opening scene his woman is jocking his nuts and he straight grabs her by the face and smashes her into a wall.

Definitely would not fly

[–]omnipedia 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Since they remade that movie recently you could compare the two. What better test case?

[–]1wakethfkupneo 103 points104 points  (6 children)

And this is how you hard NEXT with a style. AFCs, watch and learn. Well played OP, well played /slowclap

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[–]Sleep-less 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Hard next means total cut off of all communication, no friendship.

[–]Adolf_ghandi 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Soft next= you may reconsider staying in contact but for the time being you go radio silent.

Hard next= someone fucked up to the point were you will not let them get the tiniest bit of your time ever again. I.e. no contact forever.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 143 points144 points  (64 children)

This is my reaction to how you ended it. BUT--there is always a but--you made a mistake by even making this one a girlfriend to begin with.

Tattoos? CC veteran? Drinker? GUY FRIENDS? She is no LTR material. You ought to be more choosy in the future if you wish to avoid that "dying inside" feeling you gave yourself. You were dying inside because you started liking this woman and she disappointed you tremendously. You should know in the future that a woman like this will only disappoint you and is a waste of your attention.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 112 points113 points  (19 children)

Good advice. That "dying inside" was the shattering of the fantasy of her being a good girl. Not like she ever pretended she was one, this was OP's over-estimation of her value from the start.

[–][deleted] 81 points82 points  (5 children)

People want to believe. Can't blame them really.

[–]Entrefut 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's really the hardest part about TRP. Realizing that this is just how fucked the game is. Unless you're a part of MGTOW, you're going to have to see the ramifications of women being women.

[–]Masonjarteadrinker2 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yea me neither, it's still hard sometimes to let go of that bs.

[–]Anderfail 24 points25 points  (10 children)

It's always tough to get over these kinds of things because let's face, no man actually wants to believe TRP is real. We want to believe women are playing the same game as men and not constantly subconsciously doing things to confirm her attraction to us where if we fail a single time it could mean the end of her attraction. Being on guard all the damn time sucks.

[–]Let_me_explain1733 8 points9 points  (9 children)

The expression "Don't hate the player, hate the game." is too true when it comes to TRP. I'll never go back to my BP mentality but God how I miss that fantasy. I truly miss the hope that I'd find some super hot, well behaved innocent girl who would hopelessly fall in love with me, always be faithful and we'd live happily ever after.

The truth sucks, but the more I open my eyes, the more I realize it just can't be denied.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (7 children)

I was thinking the same exact thing while reading OP's post. It sounds like somebody had an acute case of the NAWALT, and had expectations that this woman's past would not influence her (and therefore his) future. "Hot and good fun in bed" are qualities of a plate, not an LTR.

[–]1Dev_on 5 points6 points  (0 children)

he gave her the benefit of the doubt... I say it's good to keep yourself open like that. It's better to have a pool story every few months, than to be a cynic and assume the worst of everyone.

He has his head up, he may take a few, but he'll get back up

[–]legitworkaccount 3 points4 points  (3 children)

"Hot and good fun in bed" are qualities of a plate, not an LTR.

Could you explain that last comment?

From RP, I've taken that when you're able to maintain frame and increase attraction in a LTR, she will be compelled to be damn good in bed (if only to increase her SMV to match yours).

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Those qualities, absent any other qualities, means she is only good enough to be a plate. An LTR must be hot, good in bed, and have other feminine redeeming qualities to invest further into an LTR situation.

[–]legitworkaccount 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That makes sense. Solid reply.

[–]Entrefut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's pathetic that most women think they are hot shit just because they have the two plate qualities. It's a shame really. If people were generally less lazy and honed skills instead of watching tv, the quality of all human interaction would be so much higher. Right now I feel like im sifting through a giant pile of shit.

[–]ThorsdaySaturnday 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Seriously, if OP only liked her because she was "hot and good fun in bed", he should have just plated her instead.

[–]erniesmoove 12 points13 points  (18 children)

Girls having guy friends is always a red flag?

[–]2elysius 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Guy friends and slutty girl friends.

[–]nourathrowway 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Huge red flag. Friends at work or class, whatever. Social circle and group hamgouts includes guys, of course. Solo dates with other guy "friends"? She's orbiting your replacements right in front of you, and everyone around you knows it.

Take it from someone who tried to white knight for his angel for ten years. Every single guy she orbited kissed her, or worse. No exaggeration. You cant put up with that shit in an LTR. If she has boy"friends" then you have girl"friends" and she's just another plate.

[–]merkmerk73 4 points5 points  (5 children)

It depends but usually yes - the key sign is multiple.

Single guy friend who has a girlfriend and they've known eachother since elementary school? Sure whatever, as long as it doesn't become a problem.

Tons of orbiters and/or ex boyfriends that are constantly in the picture and texting her?

Nah, you don't put up with that. Part of a serious relationship is sacrificing your opposite sex friends.

With the null exception of extremely unattractive friends, opposite sex friends are:

  • Prime 'backup' consideration
  • High potential cheating partners
  • Meddlers

[–]sunwukong155 8 points9 points  (8 children)

Do you still think guys and girls can be just friends?

[–]erniesmoove 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I dont. Im asking because thats why i had jeallousy issuies with last gf. Too many guy friends. How can i handle this? or, as a red flag, just never turn a girl with lots of guy friends into a gf?

[–]grachuss 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Girls with lots of guy friends are either sluts with a lot of ex BFs, or a chick with a lot of orbiters, who will cock block you just as much if not more than her GFs.

[–]gg_s -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's the blue pill influence telling you that "jealousy issues" are bad.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (9 children)

What do tattoos have anything to do with this?

[–]2Overkillengine 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Cosmetic body modifications indicate dissatisfaction with their body state to the point they make extensive and hard to undo alterations. Has a high correlation with a pathological level of attention seeking, which often also coincides with difficulty maintaining monogamous relationships.

[–]assmunchers 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Bad life choices. Masculine traits on a female is never a good idea for a LTR.

[–]Seuguh 10 points11 points  (0 children)

First of all, don't ever let a other guy make sexual remarks about your girl. Let alone talking about her sucking him off, even as a "joke". Also, your girl agreeing, as a "joke", is already down to blow him.

You handled it like a goddam boss. You won like a fucking chess master. To them, it appeared as if you were some dumb beta betting his own woman's mouth over a game of pool, then you sunk the black on purpose, grinned and shook his hand and told him "You can have a go at this whore, I'm done with her pussy". You laughed like, "These bums thought I was a Beta, I got options bitch, who the fuck you trynna play?", then went to get some pussy elsewhere. Game mastery at its best, Alpha overdose.

[–]LittleCrazee 45 points46 points  (2 children)

OP, Don't. Take. Her. Back.

[–]bobbatosakosanose 29 points30 points  (1 child)

2 months is nothing dude. Thats like a fling. Neither of you should be so invested in the other at that point. She probably wont even count it on her ex bf count.

[–]merkmerk73 17 points18 points  (2 children)

It was only in a jokey way to be fair and I am a much better pool player

Nah dude, that kinda shit is never 'jokey'. That's like me texting a hot girl I know and saying "wanna have sex lol jk"

It's pure disrespect and you can't ever tolerate that kinda shit in front of your girl from another guy. You call him out immediately on it.

Anyhow you handled it properly in the end so good job bro

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[–]lumpyspaceemily 33 points34 points  (27 children)

Were you fucking the fuck buddy while you were with her? Or was it a thing before you were with that chick

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[–]WazzuMadBro 149 points150 points  (24 children)

Ill go ahead and say it. If he had a fuckbuddy on the side while having made her his GF then he is no better than her. Arguably even worse as it is possible she was faithful (although I agree the red flags were all there and nexting her was the right decision). So hopefully it was just a fuckbuddy from before the relationship which is very possible.

Nobody should have their cake and eat it to which is really one of the biggest gripes of RP (alpha fux, beta bux). We dont get a pass just because were men. Its the opposite actually, as men we are the ones who should set the bar for the relationship and have integrity.

[–]ugotscooooped 29 points29 points [recovered]

From my understanding, it's not about cheating while you're in a LTR, it's about keeping your options open. Spinning plates doesn't mean you're necessarily fucking the girls, but if the LTR breaks down, you can move on quickly without a delay.

That about right?

[–]WazzuMadBro 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yes. And if thats all he was doing then its fine. Im in a relationship now myself and have 3 plates I'd be fucking if I wasnt with her. They hit me up from time to time to see if im DTF still but I'm not utilizing them currently.

Chances are good I'll lose end up losing one or more of those plates as the relationship progresses. Not a big deal.

[–]Sheensta 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Doesn't TRP shit on women who jump ship though? Why is it okay if OP does it?

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 21 points22 points  (5 children)

"Things are as they are. Looking out into it the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations." - Alan Watts

Caught up in the height of morals, it's easy to delude ourselves into believing we're above our animal nature.

Men want many women, women want the best man - nothing right or wrong about it, it just is what it is.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

While this is a place to discuss amoral sexual strategy, I (personally) don't believe that it gives you carte blanche to do whatever the fuck you want. If you agree to be in a relationship with someone, and you don't honor that relationship, you're not being amoral, you've crossed over into being immoral.

That's a cool quote, and we all know it's true, but I do wish TRP would stop and think sometimes about the texture of different situations.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

you don't honor that relationship, you're not being amoral, you've crossed over into being immoral.

You're right & those are good standards to have for ourselves, alas what I'm saying is expecting people to be moral or honorable is a great way to be disappointed: life's much easier when you trust others to act in their own interest.

[–]ubercoolhipsterguy 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Seriously, you'd think this is /r/askpussies.

We're glorified apes who figured out how to burn fossil fuels.

[–]MomentarilyReal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nobody should have their cake and eat it to which is really one of the biggest gripes of RP (alpha fux, beta bux).

We don't complain here. We're here for truth, that's all. Everything TRP is amoral.

[–]Sinborn 5 points6 points  (0 children)

2 months is the key. You can still keep a FB on the chain but be faithful in that time period. I've done it, no cheating (on my part) occurred.

[–]cutegirlsthrowaway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Either that or she was a thing before the relationship. He was only with this gf for 2 months, it's not hard to imagine his fuckbuddy would still be around

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[–]PlanB_pedofile 14 points15 points  (1 child)

She failed your quality test :)

Quality test: A man's version of a shit test but involves more tangible challenges such as testing loyalty, decision making, nurture instinct. A quality test is crucial in picking a LTR with actual relationship value vs a woman's shit test which deals with superficial like are you alpha? Are you cool? Whats your social status. A shit test is used to see if a woman sees you as a potential alpha cock to brag on her facebook.

She should have just said "no" to being used as a game wager. What self respecting woman will be willing to be used as a token chip in a game? Especially in a fantasy setup of being traded as a sex payment.

She has other red flags and considering the goaded bet offered "i win, your woman blows me" probably means the two fucked in the past and she has no qualms being passed around.

Plus it was a major shit test to you seeing if you are alpha enough to win the bet and win her as a prize.

[–]NeopolitanAfterglow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's just call it a shit test, because that's what it was. She thought she was shit testing him, but he instantly flipped it around so the shit test was on her. She wasn't astute enough to realize this, and as a result she bombed.

[–]garlicextract[🍰] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

somehow the guy was offering to play me at pool and if he won my gf would give him a bj. It was only in a jokey way to be fair and I am a much better pool player.

I don't understand how even in a 'jokey' way that's acceptable. I mean, shit.

[–]flatox 19 points20 points  (2 children)


felt like I was dying inside.

Some fuckin' great framekeepin, that right there.

[–]NeopolitanAfterglow 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Exactly. If he really didn't give a crap then it wouldn't be much of a story. But the sheer growth in this story is amazing. It's like the guy went from benching 150 pounds to 200 in a single session.

[–]Masonjarteadrinker2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're right, he held it together very well, props to OP.

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[–]1Dev_on 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing she'll call in a few days for an adgenda blowie

[–]ppvknifefight 25 points26 points  (23 children)

Hah, Let's be honest, the fuck buddy thing probably didn't happen, lol.

All jokes aside, I too made the mistake of LTR a girl just like the chick in the story. That "dying inside" feeling you speak of is a telltale sign that you need to abandon fuckin ship. Took me months and multiple "dying inside" feelings to leave, but you ripped the band aid off completely and bounced. Bravo.

As far as the dude in the story.. when he said that joke, you should have seriously checked that behavior immediately. I don't care that he "seems like a nice guy" and that he said it in a joking manner. Nah.

I don't care what kind of man he is and I don't care that you are a better pool player. It doesn't matter -- That was some serious disrespect from him and you should have handled it with some serious words. Set boundaries.

The pool game (under those rules) shouldn't have been played in the first place. That's where you messed up. But again, good move with dropping her.

Hell, fuck the guy and fuck the pool game, your GF flirting with him in your presence says it all.

[–]maximus_gladiator 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Thank you! At least someone has common sense. The FACT that the other guy thinks he can initiate a joke like that (I doubt it was a joke) in front of OP's face and your girl.... Speaks volumes to her respect to OP.

[–]qwertz101 2 points3 points  (0 children)

agree completely...wouldnt be surprised if the other guy had already hooked up with this guys girl before.

think about it, no matter how alpha you might think you are, you wouldnt say that kind of thing about a girl thats your friend unless:

  1. you've gotten with her before or 2. she wants you really badly and you know u can have her whenever

i think OP played the situation beautifully. her flirting with the other guy in fronnt of him was enough reason to next that girl

[–]ppvknifefight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. To be honest, both the guy and his girl called him a bitch to his face that night. The guy with the whole "if I win, your girl blows me" game and the fact that his gf was flirting with the guy in front of his face that same night.

OP left the chick and he gets props for that, but he (and a few people angry at me in this thread) are not allowing OP to take the L.

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[–]ppvknifefight 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Jesus, It's a lot of sensitive dudes on redpill today. The estrogen is overwhelming. A lot of you dudes are getting exposed and it's amusing.

Let's try this again. When the guy in OP's story says "if you lose this pool game, your girl sucks my dick" no one bats an eye, but as soon as someone OP doesnt know from the mean streets of Philadelphia makes innnocent little joke about a girl that may or may not exist, every one loses their minds!

What you miss is both the guy and OP girlfriend is basically saying fuck you to OP with their actions. You can't "agree and amplify" when you're "dying inside." OP KNEW that he fucked up. The weekends almost here, bros. Let's keep it real on redpill.

Also, this girl was his GIRLFRIEND. It's a litttttleeee tooo late to show the guy that "OP doesnt give a fuck about this piece of trash whore."

Come on guys, seriously.

[–]2wiseclockcounter 4 points5 points  (1 child)

If your gf and her guys friends are doing this shit, then you haven't earned their respect in the first place. If you don't have their respect, telling the guy off won't change that, no matter how tough and serious you seem. OP's decision demonstrated that he respects himself enough to exit a situation like that entirely. Cutting your losses and demonstrating with action what you will not stand for.

Granted, I think your approach of setting a dude straight would be appropriate if your gf was not flirting with the guy or feeding into shit. Because at that point, he'd just be crossing lines. If OP had a solid faithful gf who respected him, you can be sure he wouldn't check in with her to see if she's down. There would be no question and he'd confront the dude. But OP asked this question because the context was ripe with bullshit- bullshit he had no reason to stick around and fight for. He's better off without them, and I think that's the part that you're missing. Not every girl is worth fighting for. PS you're not the only one keeping it real here, lol.

[–]ppvknifefight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, I keep it real. Almost too real. Let it be known, I agree that OP did the right thing with cutting this bitch off. I agree with everyone who clicked the little arrow pointing upward and clamored "yeah, OP! You showed her!!!!!" We're all cool.

OP does Not need this in his life, so good job to him for dropping her.

However, on some real man shit, here are the facts : OP came into a place with a girlfriend he was happy with.. and ultimately got spoken to like a bitch from another man.

Isn't the number one red pill rule "put yourself first?" You guys are killing me.

Tell me where you guys party so I can show up and say the same thing to you and your girls and watch you leave on some "maintaining frame" shit.

Again, I'm not saying go berserker barrage and put the dude in an armbar, but speak the fuck up.

[–]1spicy_fries 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Hah, Let's be honest, the fuck buddy thing probably didn't happen, lol.

Just because it doesn't happen for you doesn't mean that it doesn't happen for others.

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[–]ppvknifefight 7 points8 points  (5 children)

At the very least, I would have pulled him to the side, talked to him man to man and let him know that that was unacceptable. I damn sure wouldn't have reached into the depths of my mind for some "red pill" theory to apply like "holding frame." Shit is just common sense.

Again, I'm not saying start a poolhall brawl like Jackie Chan in Rush Hour, but there would be zero smiles on my face in this situation.

Dude has to be let known that he's crossed a boundary. That's all i'm saying. I don't understand the backlash.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Do it in front of everyone I'd say. Dude doesn't deserve the respect of being pulled aside since he did not show the same respect himself.

[–]NeopolitanAfterglow 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This pill is so red it was cherry flavored. Well done.

[–]fillymandee 5 points6 points  (3 children)

You probably could've avoided the game of pool altogether by making him suck your cock if you won. I mean, what's in it for you?

Seriously though, you did the right thing.

[–]Masonjarteadrinker2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LMAO that would have been a good idea to just toss that in there, but would have made OP seem like a homo.

[–]GregariousWolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now, that's what you call agreeing and amplifying.

[–]ThorsdaySaturnday 5 points6 points  (3 children)

My first reaction was, this guy did a solid here, high-five. Then I re-read the backstory:

Gf was always going to be trouble because she has tattoos and is a veteran of the CC but I was with her because she is hot and good fun in bed.

OP should have plated her from the get-go. Instead, for the shallow reason that all she has to offer is that "she is hot and good fun in bed", he keeps her as a gf and then is surprised that she acts like a slut. I don't understand people who choose to fuck idiots and then complain that, "Golly that slut was an idiot". Ever consider that maybe you're the idiot for choosing poorly?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP should have plated her from the get-go.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda.

Moving on...

[–]Cubixdealer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sometimes you really don't know or forget the social commitment that the bf gf thing entails beyond fidelity.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (25 children)

Just an idea, and because none of us was there to study her reaction, maybe we think she was so confident in you (her alpha) that she knew you would win - and certainly wouldn't suck the dude's cock even if you lost.

She might've thought that she was supporting you (in her own way) in your endeavor to drag this real pansy across the table, you stud you.

I have a girl that I really have to watch out how I joke with her, because she will do exactly as I say (for fear of not following instructions satisfactorily). If I was in a similar situation as yours, she'd probably react like I mentioned that your girl might've.

Or ... maybe you're dead-on on your assessment and played it perfectly. If so, good on ya. Nicely played.

[–]NabroleonBonaparte 24 points25 points  (0 children)

That's straight hamster talk.

She was "so confident in her alpha" that she would comply with other guy's joking frame for a bj as a prize?

Why would you even open that path? If I got in a LTR and she didn't give him a look like he said he fucked goats for a living, she wouldn't be worthy and she'd probably sniff the beta off me if I complied with the game "as a joke"

"But baby you would never suck another mans cock, we have twue wuv on our side! You rode the CC in the past but it's different because you have me!"

That little leniency is how a lot of women capitalize on alpha fux

[–]R4F1 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Just an idea, and because none of us was there to study her reaction, maybe we think she was so confident in you (her alpha) that she knew you would win - and certainly wouldn't suck the dude's cock even if you lost.

She might've thought that she was supporting you (in her own way) in your endeavor to drag this real pansy across the table, you stud you.

Because I don't think if you're in a seemingly monogamous relationship ("seemingly" since OP did have a FwB on the side), giving another guy a BJ isn't something to joke about. Especially to an RP guy, that would only indicate a redflag that she actually ponders the idea of doing other guys.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I understand and appreciate what you're saying.

However, there are girls out there who simply aren't that clever and blindly cling to every word we say. If she is like that, and was 50/50 on whether or not he was joking, she could've made a quick judgement call without the time to fully process the dilemma - and simply made the wrong call. Not all girls are clever enough to always to make the right call - even in a case such as Op's.

At best, it would be a lesson for her (shit test/dread game) and, guaranteed, she'd never make that stupid mistake again.

[–]Limekill 18 points19 points  (2 children)

my gf started flirting with him a bit

So 'no'... she didn't "made a quick judgement call without the time to fully process the dilemma"

She was flirting with him and then saying she would BJ him....

Thats x2 very serious, disrespectful actions in less than a couple of hours.... How many do you fucking want???

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Agreed. I added a side note to one of my comments regarding her flirting with the guy.

Confirmed: She's a slut and was dealt with accordingly.

[–]Masonjarteadrinker2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Confirmed: She's a slut and was dealt with accordingly.

Haha that made me laugh idk why.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 33 points34 points  (9 children)

My thoughts on this align with yours. I would check the guy for trying to make a bet like that. I would tell him he's disrespecting my girl and that he owes her an apology. I would only be mad at her if she took his side over mine (as in, "come on babe he's only joking let's play")

All that said, inviting a bunch of guy friends to hang out is an annoyingly obvious shit test. She put you in a position to amog or get amogged. I don't necessarily blame her - it's basically instinctive. I'm just saying it sucks.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (3 children)

inviting a bunch of guy friends to hang out is an annoyingly obvious shit test.

If it can be proven that she invited the extra cocks, that in itself was INDEED a massive shit test on an epic level to begin with. She wanted to give OP some competition to see if he'd white knight her. He actually, IMO, did the correct thing in creatively nexting her in front of everybody. If he'd been a little pussy and started bro-lecturing the AMOG for trying to move in on "his girl", she'd have found OP pathetic and would have eventually blown the other guy anyhow.

[–]newlifeasredpill 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Only way for OP "to win"..is not to play.

[–]truchisoft 32 points33 points  (1 child)

If he made a bet like that i'ts most probably she gave him enough hints to signal he could do that kind of bet with you.

Certainly no LTR material

[–]Masonjarteadrinker2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Agreed, he did it because she lets him talk to her like that.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All that said, inviting a bunch of guy friends to hang out is an annoyingly obvious shit test.

I don't think she necessarily arranged the gtg (from Op's text), but either way, this is one reason I don't hang out at places like that anymore. It's a constant battle with guys trying to be the top silverback to win over my girl (or a buddy's girl). It gets tiring.

Side note (and gentle reminder to us) - Op did say that she was flirting with the guy. That's too much for me to set back and take too. Even once. I don't have time for that shit and I don't play Second Fiddle to anyone - and neither should any man who subscribes to TRP.

[–]NeopolitanAfterglow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's possible it's as you described. But even then, consider it a hard learned lesson on her part. She really should know better than to disrespect her man like that.

[–]InsaneShitstain 8 points8 points [recovered]

You are overthinking it. He describes her as a slut. And she was fishing for male attention = bj. OP did the right thing

[–]cascadecombo 1 point2 points  (2 children)

i dunno ops situation either but, i thought this too. she could have been showing confidence in him. knows he is good and didnt wanna say no way possibly thinking shed hurt his ego.

now i must again say, i saw no context so who knows.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah, but I reconsidered when I re-read that she was flirting with the guy before hand. That alone would have been enough to justify Op's actions. We can't dismiss that inexcusable piece of the puzzle.

[–]cascadecombo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No no, I read that and agree.

One of the guys is the classic cocky asshole type and my gf started flirting with him a bit but he seemed like an ok guy.

This part here comes off as if he is hamstering away his insecurities. We do not know OP, or his style, or a lot of things. OP made his choice, and he is happy with it. Awesome. I am just looking at all the possible reasons/logic.

[–]garlicextract[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is one of the silliest responses I've seen.

[–]Chlue 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fuck dude, mid story I was like how is this gonna feel good for this dude, then I continued.

OP you are a beast

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I get the impression that she probably had already given the guy a BJ.

[–]Seuguh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me too. The way that dude was so comfortable with asking such a question.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd love to hear if there is a final chapter to this story. It seems unresolved for some reason.

[–]Chrolo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is beautiful. Initially I had an image of you desperately trying to play the best pool game of your life to ensure victory; instead you potted the fucking black, and secured a far more significant win. Sweet victory my friend, truly. Thanks for the story.

[–]Prattler26 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is what being a man is about: making the hard but necessary decision and following through with action.

[–]1RXRob 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You would've looked stupid if you missed the black

[–]garlicextract[🍰] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

He said he was good at pool ya idiot

[–]The_Americano 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wish I could meet you in real life and shake your hand. Carry on brother.

[–]FateBender 3 points4 points  (2 children)

dude that was phenomenal you're a fucking genius

EDIT: as for whether or not your actions were RP, damn right they were. You kept your frame, didn't lose your cool, didn't put extra effort for the ho, made her feel like a slut (which she is) and made her chase you in the end.

Me, I would have beaten the shit out of that guy the moment he proposed that "if i win your girl gives me a blowjob" which would have been BP/Beta because I would have lost my frame, waste my breath for a whore and prolonged her presence in my life further.

[–]NeopolitanAfterglow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Getting into a fight over a proven slut would destroy his frame, raise her value, and motivate her to set up this exact scenario the next time.

[–]arrayay 1 point2 points  (6 children)

The part I don't understand is what was the other side of the bet and why isn't it mentioned in the story. ... it doesn't add up

[–]randomchaos1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably the most epic thing I've read on this forum.

[–]Sun_Kami 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Are girls with tattoos crazy?

[–]Lt_Muffintoes 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Going to plate her, or just be rid of her?

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

In this context, my advice to OP would be to just be rid of her

[–]BlackHeart89 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Damn that. She's full of shit. He should get rid of her. No animosity or anything. Just simply the best approach. No drama needed.

[–]TheSmellOfOnions 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say one last insane fuck session. Could help you realize how low value she is. See what she would do to please someone with such a higher value.

[–]thisisntjet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

she was already his plate since he had a fuckbuddy.

[–]TheRealMouseRat 2 points3 points  (24 children)

Do you know if she even blew him?

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 31 points32 points  (17 children)

She probably wouldn't have even if op had stayed, played, and lost. But consider this, that guy was setting himself up to have a little inside joke about sex with a supposedly committed girl. "You know you still owe me a blow job right?" He'd be making that joke at work all the time.

This is why I think op should have called out the guy the very moment he made the joke.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (8 children)

Then you get the "You're insecure!" card thrown at you for simply calling people out on their bullshit. Happened to me a few times. Where would you recommend going from there?

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

"If I win, you eat my shit."


[–]NeopolitanAfterglow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why the ONLY correct way to handle the scenario is exactly how OP did it. ALWAYS be the man willing to drop her at a moment's notice. Like another poster said, pre-empting this problem is key. Tell her early on that if she ever disrespects you around other people, she's gone. Don't be specific; it'll be up to her hamster wheel to think "if I do this, will he leave"? Then when she rejects advances in public, tell her what a great girl she is and reward her later somehow.

[–]Heuristics 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No, I think it's the job of the woman to protect her sexual reputation, it's the job of the man to value that reputation. In this case she did not, the value was lowered as a result. The correct path was taken to end it with her.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is why I think op should have called out the guy the very moment he made the joke.

he asked her if shes ok with it. "his" GF said, "yes, if you lose i will suck THIS coworkers dick who dared to disrespect you like that in public".

if she were offended, and would say "no of course not, how dare you?" THEN he could check the guy.

[–]1independentmale 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why I think op should have called out the guy the very moment he made the joke.

It sounds like his girl was all about it. It was a great test of their new relationship and that bitch failed.

If she'd been clearly offended by the suggestion and wanted no part of it, that would have been the appropriate time to call the guy out for disrespecting him and his girl. However, since she was OK with it, I think he played his hand real well.

[–]1Dev_on 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he played the long con. Its got a style, not everyones style, but OPs style

[–]gt35r 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Just curious as others have asked, what kind of retort would you throw in there on the spot like that? How do you counter a guy throwing shit at you and your woman.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 6 points7 points  (1 child)

/u/LetMeSideBarThatForU gave a response above and I don't disagree on any particular point. His advice essentially boils down to gaming your way around the confrontation. That's definitely the preferred plan.

But, if you have to check another man, a general template would be to first give him an out that saves face. That could be as simple as, "what did you just say?" Let him laugh it off as a joke and then say, "okay well, don't make that joke again."

If he doesn't want to back off, the thing you want to do is go under the radar of his fight or flight reflex. What I mean is, no matter what the disagreement, if you jump up into a man's face, the rational part of his brain takes a back seat to the instinct. At that point, you're not so much communicating with him as dancing - ironically, this is probably exactly what the girl wanted. Two males, bashing their heads together. Happens in almost all sexual mammalian species. Once you start the dance, it goes on until someone is bleeding or running.

You fly under the radar of that instinct by doing the opposite of the thing that triggers it. Lower your voice. Slow your words. Use cultural cues rather than instinctive responses to communicate. That is to say, you put on a serious (not angry) face, you look him in the eye, and you say something like, "you're disrespecting me and my girlfriend too."

...and sometimes, you just have to be willing to fight.

[–]garlicextract[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Fair enough, if I win I get a bj from your mom".

It doesn't have to make sense, really.

[–]mandel17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Impressive. I don't think you could have played it any better. That is exactly how to gain the upper hand over women, to neutralize the innate advantage they have when it comes to sex. By throwing the game you effectively lowered her sexual value, making her look like a slut and nothing more than a commodity to gamble on. Bravo sir!!

[–]garlicextract[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)


Good shit OP. OP is a legend, 10/10 would read again. Hope this story is true.


Not sure if the way I dealt with it was rp but I feel great.

This is RP as PHUCK OP.

[–]MicroMinion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

'you're welcome to her mate

I read this in an australian accent. This is one of the funniest RP things ever if it truly happened man.

[–]thenameisA 4 points4 points [recovered]

Bro, leaving aside the red flags, a man asked if your girlfriend will blow him, if he wins a game against you. Jokingly or not, it does not fucking matter. The man disrespected you, not her, you.

You left...instant proof that you can't stand for yourself and you don't value your time. Your gf(LTR) is an investment of time, energy and resources. If you present her to the world as your girl, then it means you put some effort towards the relationship. You just made it clear that you don't value your investment.

Next time, make the guy apologise to you for this disrespect. Leave her out of this, she has no part in this. Get her out of there, then hard next her for even considering it ( jokingly or not ).Also never LTR something like that again.

With that being said, cudos to you for the bold move, it takes some balls.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree somewhat. I would've just said "That was a bit disrespectful, don't you think? How about you apologize to me, to my woman, and we can continue on like that didn't just happen." It would've then been tense and awkward, but you show that you have "boundaries" (so tired of that word) and stand by your principles.

But then again, if he said that and my woman was all happy and found it hilarious and flirty... then yes, I would've made your move, for sure.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nice dude. its always easier to talk the talk than to walk the walk.

You did the right thing.

[–]CornyHoosier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's great frame man. Don't allow anyone to walk all over you like that.

[–]TekkomanKingz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Knocked that ho right out of the ballpark!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're the shit man. Kudos to you. Ain't no one got time to be waisted on girls like that

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[–]_fappycamper 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Ok so not to be nit picking, because how OP dealt with it was amazing, but it would have been Infiniti/10 if he sinks all the balls but one and then sinks the 8 for the loss.

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[–]_fappycamper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just to show that he can beat him easy, but he doesn't want to

[–]Masonjarteadrinker2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fukkkkk that would have been awesome, but I think the way he did it was better, quick and to the point no lingering.

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