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Happy weekend ladies.

I came across something a few days ago on twitter, that I can’t manage to find, that said something along the lines of: “The problem with modern women is they have lost the desire to serve, and have instead given into self-indulgence and self-obsession.” I apologize to the original poster, whoever she is, for lack of due credit and imperfect recollection. But her words have stayed with me and I wanted to bring you all my thoughts.

Lost the Desire to Serve. Can you hear the ripples of gasps among empowered modern women? Serve?

Yes.

These words came to me at a time much needed. Though I pride myself on being a woman of service, a nurse-by-night and homemaker-by-day, I have found myself becoming, regrettably, service-spent. I came home a few days ago in the morning to find the few things undone I had asked Q to do before going to sleep, trash he had left by the couch, food left on the counter, and a pile of recycling climbing up the wall. I had spent all night serving patients, families, and coworkers, and ended up coming home exhausted, and scrubbing the dishes with seeds of unfamiliar resentment. Can’t I get any help around here? Is it so hard to put one Tupperware in the dish washer? I made him his usual breakfast and lunch, and got ready for bed in a huff. I climbed into bed and in the sweetest style possible I told him I wanted to have an argument but that I would apologize straight away. I asked why he couldn’t do just the few little things I asked of him and that I really needed some help around here to keep up. I plan to be a stay at home mom eventually, but while I’m still working, I felt it was no fair to do everything around the house too. He was so sweet, held me and kissed me and apologized, and told me he would be better. I didn't sleep well and woke up feeling guilty.

I have decided that it’s me who needs to be better. Of course there’s nothing wrong with asking for help, and I’m glad I did, but I had totally forgotten in that moment everything I stand for as a traditional woman, a woman of service. A woman who desires to serve. A woman who derives contentment from dedicating her time and heart and hands to the service of others, especially her man. But already, at nearly the beginning of my journey, I have witnessed how easily I might slip and falter. So I have decided to commit myself to Mindfulness in Service, a mental focus to mindfully and consciously reset daily, reminding myself of who I want to be and what energy I want to bring to the world, and to my home. Why I serve.

I don’t know what that might look like for you, it might be a daily prayer, it might be a sticky note on your desk, it might be meditation, or maybe you have been practicing long enough it comes more naturally. But the goal for me is no longer merely to serve, but to desire to serve.

I have everything I could ask for - a kind and generous and hardworking man of steadfast morals and convictions, an incredible mind, who is patient, appreciative, thoughtful, and dedicated to building this life with me. Why on earth did it matter to me where he put a tupperware? I’m proud to say I woke up this afternoon early enough to accomplish a few power hours of delightful service, thoroughly cleaning the house including several things I’ve been meaning to do for weeks (doesn’t that feel so good!), making dinner, running errands for Q, and putting together a gift for him I’ve been meaning to finish. Yes, I even took out the recycling, and yes, I truly and genuinely enjoyed doing it.

Let me know if you ever need a reset button, and maybe for some of you, this can be it. If you have any other tips for Mindful Service, please let me know! It’s so lovely to be on this journey with all of you.


[–]learningtomom23 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

When I have moments of those inner grumbling bubbling up, I turn to gratitude & thinking of all the things he does, including those that I might not notice each day. I’m almost always exceedingly grateful for my fortunate life, but when I’m extra tired, I can let that slip, so I think of specific things that I’m thankful for.

And, I think the overall trend of selfishness over serving is, in fact, a trend impacting almost everyone in modern society, sadly. I hope to do everything I can to raise our child(ren) to focus on the world around them & how they can interact with and impact the world instead of focusing on themselves.

[–]kittxxn3 Star[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beautiful - gratitude. Yes! To make it worse (on the guilt front) he’s been working so hard recently on moving his career forward which has meant working hours at home. It’s much easier to work dutifully and selflessly for someone so ambitious and admirable compared to someone just sitting around all evening.

[–]AngelFire_3_141563 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the overall trend of selfishness over serving is, in fact, a trend impacting almost everyone in modern society

The good news (or bad news) is that this is nothing new - this topic came up in the New Testament:

"...whoever wants to be great among you, let him be one who waits on you." (Matthew 20:26)

And yes, I need to be reminded of this once in awhile as well. Thank you for posting OP!

[–]cassandrarose390 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This so much

[–]misscleanex7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

No offense at all, I might be taking this the wrong way, but truth be told it sounds like you may benefit from changing up your communication style.

What does it mean to enjoy serving when it appears that you have been seeing a need to delegate so much to your SO? I love this post. I love the bit about rising above self-absorption and being in service to others, but I also see a very busy nurse who is balancing work-home and might be overlooking an opportunity to bring her problem to her captain and allow him to lead.

If you're having issues with the mental load, then share it with him.

[–]kittxxn3 Star[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I think you may be misunderstanding - this is such a small glimpse into our lives and not representative at all. I always share my struggles with him. He knows I’ve had my harder days and easier days. And he has a lot of weight on his shoulders to provide the type of lifestyle we both hope for someday. While nursing does make me busy, it’s not a career, and isn’t just about the paycheck, it’s another avenue of serving my community, and we’ve spoken at length about how to ensure I’m not sacrificing my home life for it. But ultimately, I am still responsible for maintaining my attitude, and striving to be my best self. That is not his burden to bear.

[–]misscleanex2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Of course your attitude is not his burden!

But I'm also seeing a lot of "why didn't he" in your post and it made me think of this other one you might find something interesting out of. :)

[–]kittxxn3 Star[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Just read the post, thank you so much for sharing. Will certainly work towards less control in my communication style :) he actually does help me a lot when I communicate my stress, and will take me out to dinner when I’m exhausted or bring home pizza, and I’m generally not overwhelmed at all. I think 90% of the issue this particular day was just a lapse in my attitude, not that I was truly desperate for help. I was just being lazy and grumpy. Whoops! 😕

[–]cassandrarose390 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re not lazy or grumpy. A helping field is draining at times.

[–]misscleanex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It happens to everyone! Sounds like you got a catch! I find myself falling into similar thoughts at times too when I'm not overwhelmed at all! Your post is a great reminder to not fall into that trap! :)

[–]notyetsaved6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I find that I have no negative attitude with serving when I take time to serve me! Remember to take care of the things that are important to you (friends, wellness, mental health). Keep your own cup full so that you can pour into others!

[–]durtykneesEndorsed Contributor2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why on earth did it matter to me where he put a tupperware?

It matters (on an instinctual level) because a person's habits/actions are a reflection of the contents of their mind (/mental state).

I'm highly motivated to serve my husband because everything he does tells me I'm always on his mind (my preferences, needs, idiosyncrasies, etc). If I slip up, it's only because I made a miscalculation. I don't recall ever feeling resentment with him.

The key is clear communication, such as discussing why seemingly-trivial things are disproportionately upsetting. Every time I have a problem with my feelings, I bring the problem to my husband and we figure it out. There's no need for any argument when you handle it as "Us vs The Problem", and not "Your Needs vs My Needs".

However, clear communication did not work with most of my exes, because "manly men" have this mentality of "oh no she's making woman noises again" whenever I tried to explain why I'm upset about something they can't relate to.

I was definitely resentful serving men who viewed me as just "my woman", like "the cost of getting regular sex and other manly needs met" ("the cost of doing business").

Many "traditional men" view their wives as "other" (viewed as "you vs me" --- not viewed as "an extension of me"), and their wives are further demoted to "harridan" if she resorted to nagging to try get what she needs (any good communication takes two to work).

If I feel resentment serving (in the context of a relationship), I'm always quick to leave --- not because I'm "selfish", but because I have unyielding self-respect, and I only dedicate myself to serving people who are worthy of me.


TL;DR:

Empowerment (the ability to choose, to have options, to be free to walk away) is important for your mental and physical well-being.

[–]cassandrarose395 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You know if at the end of the day if I’m tired or spent I just save it for the next day when I have the house to myself again. My captain hasn’t said anything about it. Unless we are expecting guest then he mentions something and pitches in if I need it.

I do agree though, when I change my mindset I’m not running around the house resentful of picking up after everyone. I’m helping and serving others, the most important people, the people in my family. It also serves another purpose:I’m needed. I enjoy that purpose of others needing me.

[–]MissNietzsche 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy Link

Forgive me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it wrong for a woman to be expected to work a full-time job AND be the full-time homemaker?

I would be more okay with this if he was bringing home all the bacon..then of course I would expect you to clean up after him without a fuss, but if you’re taking on his job (and being a nurse is exhausting, I’ve heard), isn’t it fair that he takes on part of your job too?

I think a woman should cook, clean, and do the child-rearing, yes, but not if she’s also working hard full-time. How can you pamper your man when you’re exhausted yourself?

Of course, I could very well be wrong on this one. Could anyone enlighten me?

[–]iwishiwasamermaid3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean ... Honestly...you WILL burn out if you take on all the household responsibilities and a full time emotionally and physically draining job. I like how the surrendered wife focuses on making sure this doesn't happen by focusing on self care AND asking for help, but NOT nagging.

[–]cassandrarose390 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Where in the book does it say this? I’m trying to find it.

Ok I found the chapter but I don’t think she’s saying tell him you need to take on 50% of the housework.

[–]HB32343 Stars4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Surrendered Wife puts a huge emphasis on self care, especially the part where she teaches women to use the self protecting phrase "I can't" instead of over committing and exhausting themselves.

[–]kittxxn3 Star[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve thought about this a lot! We’re both highly industrious and hard working people. He actually does not have much more “free time” than me. When I come home from work, I work on the house, and when he comes home from work, he works on developing new programming skills and projects to excel in his field. We take free time together often to watch a movie or read or have friends over. If I need a night to just hang out, I take it, and he does the same. But I’m very much okay with having all house duties fall on me (I’m much better at it anyway!) as long as he’s not sitting around or having fun while I work all day and all night. Does that make sense? I feel like the arrangement is pretty fair for our unique circumstances. But I totally get your premise.

[–]cassandrarose39-3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I think even with working wives that there’s masculine and feminine energy in the house. No man should be expected to take on her jobs even if she’s working. The goal is to accept and work with the differences of male and female nature so that a couple can have a happy and peaceful existence.

You can still get self care without having your partner take on your jobs on a regular basis.

The whole man should take on 50% of the housework is a very new feminist push that goes against having a traditional relationship or marriage.

[–]MissNietzsche 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Isn’t that hypocritical though? Like, I agree that no man should do housework, but at the same token, can’t one argue that no woman should be forced to work? I mean, a woman bringing home money is also a relatively new (and arguably feminist) concept.

[–]kittxxn3 Star[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not working because I’m forced to work. I happen to be making money to help save up for a house and to ease the burden when I’m staying home for children, but I feel that caregiving is my god given purpose and I have chosen to spend 40 hours per week serving my community. Once I have kids they will be my full time priority, but once they’re older and self sufficient, I will return to this service (maybe part time) for my older adult years. He has told me without hesitation that I do not have to work and we can manage on his income if things become too hard for me. I’ve told him that if I begin severely sacrificing my home life, I’ll cut hours or quit all together.

I agree with you IF the woman is being told she has to work and do all house duties, AND if the man is able and available to help out (some men truly work 80 hours a week, would they be expected to help out a woman choosing to work 40?).

[–]cassandrarose390 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It definitely is hypocritical. I think she’s working towards staying home. She might have student loans and stuff to pay. Nurses make a crap ton of money so she could hire some of her duties out.

Women working is a new feminist concept that has created the “men should do chores too” concept because working women have less time. So thanks to feminist causing even more friction in marriages.

[–]EarInlove1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

> I came home a few days ago in the morning to find the few things undone I had asked Q to do before going to sleep, trash he had left by the couch, food left on the counter, and a pile of recycling climbing up the wall.

That is disrespecting your service. He was right in apologizing. Many men lack gratitude - which makes it easy to disrespect loving service and take it for granted.

[–]vintagegirlgame1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice post. When I think of service I think of my fiancé’s best friend’s mother. Their family was raised with RP style ethics. I remember one time when it was her birthday and everyone was gathered for one of the massive dinners they always prepare. Though it was her birthday she was totally in service, cooking and cleaning with joy at having her family gathered. By the end of the night she was still going around serving everyone with zero entitlement. Taking care of her family is her happy place and it gave her joy to do this on “her” day. I really look up to her as a role model.

[–]mtngirljena1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post! And a much needed reminder. Thank you!

[–]honeytradcon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What a breath of fresh air to read. I have never been quite able to put into words what you recalled seeing on twitter. Overall I feel your post was exactly what I needed to hear as I have the same feeling of frustration at times.

I am a nursing student. I think it's the value that nurses carry to care and serve others in a more vulnerable state. This reflects both work and home.
I really admire your outlook. :)

[–]kittxxn3 Star[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you! Best best luck to you, I’m a new nurse and the job is hard but so so fulfilling and so worth it

[–]OceanRacoon 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

This might sound harsh but that's a load of garbage. You're using mentally gymnastics to make yourself okay with the fact that you're going to be your husband's mother and treat him like a child instead of a grown man who can clean up after himself and remember to take out the trash.

This attitude isn't going to make your husband better at doing basic things, it's going to infantilize him and make him just leave all the housework etc to you because you stopped nagging him to do it and are just doing it yourself. I'm a guy and I can easily imagine falling into that myself if my partner just started doing all the housework and never mentioned it to me, we just don't give a shit about it most of the time.

And then you're going to have a breakdown 5 years from now after having kids and you have to look after your husband like he's one of them. I don't see this ending well if you're not naturally a complete walkover who lives to be someone's doormat

[–]cassandrarose391 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

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