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I’ve have a couple girls this week ask me out and precede to pull their nice guy best friend or some other guy who clearly wants to fuck them but is friend zoned into our conversation while hanging out. (This is at a uni so usually the cuck is conveniently walking around)

Why the fuck does the girl do this?

How do I deal with this idiot who sometimes has known the girl for years, who thinks I’m trying to steal their precious prize?

I’ve heard to treat them like an ugly girl but that hasn’t been helpful when the guy doesn’t like me and is clearly defensive over the girl he has been “working on for years.”


[–]AscensionExperiments49 points50 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Either she doesn't like you, or it's a shit test- she's giving you shit by showing you she doesn't value your time very much.

Stop talking to her, or you'll end up like the other guy who has waited patiently for a crumb of nookie. Fuck it man game someone else

[–]SpicyYeetJuice[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is actually really helpful next time a girl does this to me I’ll just leave and call her out on her bullshit

[–]Opioidus35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't call her out on anything, you'll sound bitter.

[–]DevilSweets0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Been feeling this way too tbh, but I've been reminded by here that there's no hard feelings done.

[–]IXseed102 points103 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

If a girl brings a guy friend into your set it means she doesn't wanna be alone with you so you can't make a move.

So you should "move" on. If a girl is RESISTING your gameplan (smash and whatever past that) just bounce. There's other girls that won't don't that shit.

[–]life03645 points46 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Dude you're pretending like this girl is some sort of mad genius who knows exactly what she wants and how to play psychological games like a pro.

No. She's an idiotic college student who sucks at unfamiliar social interactions and flails for familiarity at the first sign of uncomfort. It's either a shit test or some lame social awkwardness that OP should try to push past.

Jesus, it's no wonder you young bucks are so sex starved when all you do is just give up and "next" at the first fucking sign of adversity.

[–]mrrooftops16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Let them take the first steps of understanding that hypergamy is instinctual nature not conscious mad genius. The only mad genius here is nature itself.

[–]IXseed2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pt sure it's all subconscious but at the end of the day like someone else said on this thread she's not valuing your time. Doesn't matter what the reason is, you never let her do that. It sets the frame that she's the prize and that she can easily have you and gives her no reason to chase you, let alone fuck you.

There's nexting a girl for giving a bit of a shit test, which truly will get you nowhere, and not jumping through hoops just to get laid.

[–]AlleyFrog966 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah no. We don't give vagina passes here. At the end of the day she's grown and she knows exactly what the Fuck she's doing. We need to start holding women accountable for stupid shit like this.

EDIT:

It's either a shit test or some lame social awkwardness that OP should try to push past.

OP should try to push past? Why? The last 90 guys she fucked didn't have to get shit Tester or push past any stupid awkwardness from her so why should OP?

Women these days wanna play stupid games and CHARGE guys for something other men got for free already

[–]space_warrior_20181 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is true but if you want to do her got fun it might be worth pushing past stupid nonsense and next after, you might learn a thing of two

[–]NoobPussySlayer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This seems kinda correct too lol. ive been new to RP and tbh this is what ive come across till now. people here just next a girl if she acts a little uninterested for a while.

[–]EnemyAsmodeus14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

There's also a weird habit of some girls who (I don't know if they consciously think this is a good idea or if they are that braindead) will bring a guy friend they know or that they know likes them, and they will do a straight up comparison... like as if this is a shopping mall where you compare two guys or hope they fight each other.

Such women are cancer in the first place. You should run away fast unless you're desperate. And if you do end up fucking them, you should then dump them. Oh and don't be surprised if she cries and complains to all the other guys who are friendzoned in the hopes that one of them is desperate enough to come after you.

Do not allow yourself to be compared to others...

Healthy: dating several men and thinking through which one is better

Cancer: bringing lots of men to group setting, then comparing them side by side and trying to get them to fight each other. Such women are sick in the head.

Use this: walk out... if she asks why or stops you: "How could you do this? You seem like one of those girls that compares guys by inviting them to what I thought was a date, that's outrageous, I won't be subjected to that. "

What is she going to do? "Not give you sex", she's already doing that... Have some standards...

[–]IXseed18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I prolly wouldn't make it so dramatic on the walk out. You never wanna seem butthurt, no matter what kinda wack shit she's gonna pull.
Just go "I got something I need to take care of. We'll get up later."
She's gonna still get the idea that you're not down to play The Dating Game or some shit.

Granted it comes back to the solid rule that a date is a date and not a damn group raid. If she suggests to bring a thrid ANYONE unless you've been fucking her for a min and it's a girl for a threesome, decline.

[–]EnemyAsmodeus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Am I butthurt, or do I just have abundance and don't put up with disrespect?

Granted it comes back to the solid rule that a date is a date and not a damn group raid.

Exactly...

[–]IXseed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your absence shows that enough. You just don't wanna give off that vibe because you never wanna appear that a woman can move you off ur emotional center.

You do it right she may get back to you later and be more one on one.

[–]alittletoosmooth1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds butt hurt. Don't be afraid of a little competition. She doesn't owe you anything. Unless it's a date. That's a different story.

[–]EnemyAsmodeus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did say date. If it's a first meeting or something and it's a group setting that's different.

[–]RivenHalf26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have to disagree with most the advice given so far. Dude you have to realize something, you are a fucking stranger. A lot of times it's just for protection. There's some weird mother fuckers out here. You don't treat the guy badly, you befriend him. You engage him. If he doesn't engage back or acts hostile, you don't let it effect you. The girl will notice that. She knows you want to fuck her. She knows her friend wants to fuck her. She knows most guys want to fuck her. This is a shit test at large. Be the cooler guys, be unaffected, Display...and say it with me here AMUSED MASTERY and she will send the friend away when the time is right or YOU take the initiative and YOU isolate her. "Hey I'm really enjoying the conversation, let's go over here to somewhere more quiet." "Hey I'm enjoying talking to you, lets go sit down"

This is basic level pick up, go back and read some core shit because this should never be a problem for you. It's an opportunity. Change your mindset here.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem31 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have to agree. You have to roll with it and use it as a display of your social skills and confidence. And it is your responsibly to build comfort and escalate. If it happens often then periodically, just say I got something to do and go about your busy. Also remember that if she sees him she might felt obligated or guilty to say hello to maintain the friendship orbitor. She might be clueless...

[–]mickey__0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

read it... where, sidebar?

[–]Jesusfeminist9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You bring another girl into the set

[–]DevilSweets0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This will actually work tbh. Because she would then have to compete for your attention against the other plate he would've brought.

[–]WIA20XX15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why the fuck does the girl do this?

She doesn't like you.

[–]agjrpsl14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your at uni, and there are 1,000+ chics going through their slut phase. Skip the games here , and move on to others. If the chic was into you she would of shown it in her behavior. Touching your arm, up into you etc etc. Get space cause you got bigger fish to fry. Fish that will take the bait. Chin up and maintain focus.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

make up an excuse and just walk away

[–]SpicyYeetJuice[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’ve done this but then I’m like “I just got amoged by a nice guy.” The girl can get nexted for bringing him in but I don’t think my initial reaction should be just give up.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

its tough one because walking away could be perceived as high value, as in you have so much else to do and so many other options that competing with some beta is beneath you

[–]redpilllogin4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Girls ask you out and bring you to the university campus? Got it.

[–]omasque3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Start teasing them about how they’d make a great couple, every time they do an eye check or have a moment of kino make exasperated statements like “oh come on! When are you two going to see what’s right in front of you?!”

[–]FearGarbhArMait6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just walk away and contiue with your day.

[–]1redhawkes3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

AMOG the bloop, "I think your bf is the jealous type", then after a while, isolate the thot.

Learn to setup dates one on one.

[–]ogkushinjapan3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My Asian friends call these beta orbiters the Great Wall of China.

You see them at Asian clubs surrounding their crushes all the time

[–]baldymcgee9192 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just fringe her and you'll be fucking her in a few weeks, then clean your knob on her pillow and leave.

[–]Bedtimeshine2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pulling a guy in is her saying no

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why the fuck does the girl do this?

They like validation. Also, girls re retarded.

How do I deal with this idiot who sometimes has known the girl for years, who thinks I’m trying to steal their precious prize?

Ask her, "Oh, is this your boyfriend?" When she says "no" you can watch his testicles shrivel up into tiny hamster balls, because in 5 seconds you have just destroyed all the "work" he has put in for months/years.

Also it's called Isolate and escalate for a reason.

[–]throwawayycheyeah1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'd guess she wants to see if you will compete to be her beta orbiter with him or is not interested in being alone with you like others have said.

I think she might just be trying to get you to compete for her attention by bringing another dude into the set. Who knows tho

[–]EramSumEro1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was thinking similarly to your first idea -- in a way it's a shit test. Could she be testing OP's frame?

[–]throwawayycheyeah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah in any case it sounds like she wants to play games and is wasting ops time

[–]Houston2NYC0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea you need to nope out of there ASAP

[–]Casd120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of these advices are only applicable if you know this chick for awhile. If this is the first time you're chilling with her, she's doing it because you make her anxious and she needs another person there to help break the ice. However, if you have already broken the ice and this is the second/third time, she's probably using you as an orbiter. But this only happens if you're pussyfooting around and not being direct with your intentions.

[–]BAE-lal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This

[–]Lambdal70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s a shit test to see if you are intimidated by other men wuickly or if you’re unaffected and socially fluent enough to acknowledge them, but not let them distract you from your goal.

[–]afterthe_fapocalypse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

weird. u/life036 I think hit the nail on the head. the way you put it sounds like she's showing off one of her prisoners to you at a slave market. if she's a total socio then yeah, but if not, then probably just some dumb insecurity of hers she impulsively covers with proximate dude presence.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why the fuck does the girl do this?

Safety.

How do I deal with this idiot who sometimes has known the girl for years, who thinks I’m trying to steal their precious prize?

With indifference, high value, amusement and leaving early "so they can spend time together".

[–]abomba240 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haven't seen this reply yet, but there is possibly a dimension to this that she's trying to show you off/raise her status in some way. Regardless if you can't easily pull her away then move on

[–]redpilllogin-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

😂 Every day I wonder why the red pill community attracts these type of person so much.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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