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Red Pill ExampleWent out on a tinder date tonight. Bailed halfway through the first drink. (self.TheRedPill)

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A couple of days ago I matched with a girl on tinder, hairdresser - I honestly can't stand hairdressers and their vapid lives/conversations however her pics looked good, added her on FB and she had some pics from a bikini comp, albeit a couple of years old where she looked pretty damn good.

Fast forward to tonight (valentines day) and we meet at a local bar. Straight away I could she had gained a good 10-15kg since her competition days and she was a six at best. However we got a drink and I picked a seat right in front of a tv (cricket was on)

She hit me with a shit test straight away - "what car do you drive ?" At this point I was seething at her deceptive pics so I just said "A 1989 commodore" ( I actually drive a car worth 50k new ) Then said I'm leaving, you are not what I want, I'm out of your league, have a good night, and walked straight out.

Felt fucking good. Not sure if this is TRP worthy but just felt like sharing my experience.


[–]DanG3 479 points480 points  (12 children)

"Well, it's a 20XX XYZ-Car. But it's not as old as your Tinder pics."

[–]ChirpChirp169 188 points189 points  (2 children)

There's the shit-test demolishing line I was looking for.

[–]DanG3 39 points40 points  (1 child)

And ... if delivered with a smirk, looking her straight in the eye, she's going to melt. It's not exactly a conversation ender, either. It leaves you both with something to work with - or not.

I don't think that revealing that you are pissed off by walking out shows much "mastery" over life's realities - or the nature of women.

[–]ChirpChirp169 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I agree with you man. If I felt like she could pull through a shit test like that right off the bat, I might stay and evaluate a little more.

But, if I walked out, it wouldn't be because I'm angry, it would be because I don't like my time wasted and there's plenty of other chicks I could be trying to bang, y'know?

[–]screamingATtrees 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"A red one....how much debt do you have?"

[–]hothdogs 4 points5 points  (4 children)

That's not really compatible with walking out, as it would have given her hamster something specific to focus on. "He was extremely shallow" etc

[–]tyranus89 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Necessarily, if you're at the point of walking out, you don't care what she's thinking or hamstering.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The guy is always 'extremely shallow', the girl is always just looking out for herself.

[–]Plankity 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah I imagine she was going to victimize herself SOME way or another

[–]Endorsed ContributorRed_August 523 points524 points  (13 children)

You gave her a "market correction".

[–][deleted] 142 points143 points  (1 child)

LOL. Hamsters don't understand economics.

[–]dukechaz 161 points162 points  (5 children)

Excellent use of a stop-loss. Many others would have rode that 6 all the way down. You made the correct assessment and bailed early minimizing your time and money loss.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (3 children)

I've recently raised my standards for what I'm doing with my time. If an experience goes below a minimum level of fun/value, I immediately sell (stop-loss).

If a movie sucks? I walk out. If a party/social gathering sucks? I stay as long is polite, and then leave in a manner that's polite. It's been great.

[–]rpscrote 1 point2 points  (2 children)

its such a great way to live. This shit's lame --> leave. Boom.

Also, guy named 200mgtestc replying on a thread by TrenAcetate... hmmmm lol

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The sunk cost fallacy is a real thing.

Also, come to the dark side.

[–]iStabCows 42 points43 points  (0 children)

False price signals and false incentives.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That is such a fantastic term. I'm going to borrow that.

[–]PeteMullersKeyboard 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"I'm short your Tinder, long your vibrator."

[–]Bea_OProblem 184 points184 points [recovered]

I would have said "Come out and have a look", got in the car, and let her watch me drive away in my $50k car.

[–]DualCamSam 91 points92 points  (29 children)

50,000$ when it was NEW made me laugh.

[–]usul1628 87 points88 points  (6 children)

nothing like a mid-90s Merc to get the ladies excited.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

You can buy a 2010 E550 for 36,000 where I'm from so I know this baby wasn't mid nineties.

[–]1beerthroway 20 points21 points  (16 children)

It sounds like it's UK. Probably 50k pounds. Not dollars. The car is very likely a nice car.

[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (1 child)

A 50thousand dollar car is nothing to dismiss as garbage either

[–]Tman5691 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Cricket...could be Australia too, they use dollars.

[–]1beerthroway 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Oh true. Not only cricket but kg instead of lb. Which could also be Australia.

Regardless, it's likely a good car. Besides, people with money don't always want to drive nice cars. It can be a great way to save money to drive an economical car and spend money where it counts. Remember that top post where the oil heir drove a Toyota or something? His gf broke up with him because he "didn't have ambition" but he was just frugal with his money. She had no clue and she left and his friends told her that he's rich but doesn't spend it. She wanted him back.

My point is that it's neither here nor there what fucking car he drives. Making fun of the 50k new aspect is missing a lot of the other more subtle context, like cricket and kg. He never called it a pub, he said bar. Do Australians say pub or bar? I don't know honestly. Maybe it's not European.

Anyways, the odds are in OPs favor that he actually does drive a nice car.

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[–]qiang_shi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

50k will get you an average car in Australia. Unless it's a restored cosworth or a Datsun 1800

[–]Sleazyridr 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Commodore gives it away as Australia

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wrong timezone.... must be somewhere East of Europe

[–]anttyk47 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Mad haters hanging on redpill

[–]No_YoureATowel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

$50k -- adjusted for inflation!

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[–]SirBoris 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You drive a new commodore off the lot, loses 10-15 grand worth of value right there

[–]AnarchyBurger101 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It's a 1989 Crown Vic, I'm sure you've ridden in many before! ;)

[–]TimeHo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hah this is the correct response.

[–]Nofapguru 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And you would've looked like an idiot who is bragging about his expensive car (I mean when it was new). A very childish move.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 42 points43 points  (1 child)

"What car do you drive?"

"I'm a dick, not an ATM."

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This gets me thinking . . . . A mass movement to get men to qualify women in an organized manner might actually raise the bar.

"So, how many times a week to you hit the gym? What's your work-out routine?"

If anything less than 3-4, allow a look of abject disgust and disappointment to creep over your face, similar to what they do if you tell them you bag groceries for a living. Then suddenly you get an urgent phone call that you have to take and disappear.

[–][deleted] 106 points107 points  (4 children)

She lied with her pics, wasted your time and money, and began to disrespect you with inappropriate questions. Your reaction seems reasonable, if others may have done it different. If a guy treated you that way, people wouldn't jump all over you because you for treating him the same way being 'insensitive to his feelings' or other bullshit.

[–]pilledwillingly 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Imagine asking a girl what type of car they drove as an opener?

[–]disposable_pants 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Imagine a girl saying "I'm out of your league" -- That would be viewed as bitchy. A man saying "I'm out of your league" also comes across as a catty response nine times out of ten (delivery and non-verbals are crucial of course). As others in this thread have pointed out such a comment is unlikely to make a girl re-think herself (she'll rationalize or simply find someone who will put up with her), if it's said in front of acquaintances it could make them think less of you (lowers your SMV), and the high difficulty of delivery means it could easily blow up in a novice's face. I don't see a reason to use "I'm out of your league" over a more tactful way of ending the date other than the former feels better -- and anything that's done simply because it feels good should be questioned.

[–]JohnPeel 223 points224 points  (18 children)

So many fucking concern trolls and shills in this thread.

He's not under any obligation to be nice to anyone, especially not dishonest golddiggers.

[–]1independentmale 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Bunch of goddamn babies and nice guys. Bitch was obviously a gold digger who had let herself go. I've seen plenty of them, fives and sixes who still think they're nines with attitude for days. Who has time for that bullshit? Somebody has to start putting these bitches in their place.

I'm also getting tired of the "No TRUE alpha" arguments. Goddamn newbs show up here and after a month on TRP think they have it all figured out. ಠ_ಠ

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (4 children)

Yup, it's weird what TRP has been lately.

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[–]icallmyselfmonster 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm actually ok with honest gold diggers, but my standards get a lot higher around them.

[–]slurmfactory 39 points40 points  (16 children)

Haha this happened to me on one of my first online dates. Chick grilled me about whether i would pay for the first date, shows up and im immediately completely disappointed, her lower body was massive, and gross. Was nice to her tho and ended up wasting $60. Shoulda done what op did and just excused myself, maybe sans insult.

[–]vicious_armbar 59 points60 points  (10 children)

You paid $60 on a first date with a chick you didn't even like?! You're clearly doing it wrong my friend!

If you don't want to go for the same night lay meet them for a cup of coffee. Arrive a little early, and get your drink before they do; then take a seat. When you see them come in the door just wave. That way they'll have to go up to the counter themselves to get a drink and pay for their own damn shit! I always get tea at the local coffee place I go to. The entire date costs $2.

If you're going for a same night lay, then you should tell them you'll meet up with them for drinks after dinner. That way you're not paying for a meal, and the money you're spending on them is at least going towards getting them a little boozed up and increasing your chances of getting the bang. Drinks at a lounge cost $6 a piece. So you'll end up spending $12-$18 for both of you. With the option of spending even less by bailing early, and asking for split checks if she's not receptive to your kino.

If you really want to push the price down arrive ahead of time and order a diet coke, but tell the bartender to call it a jack and coke. Explain to the bartender that you don't drink; but you don't want to look stupid in front of this girl that you asked out. Don't let her see the receipt though. If the see that they've been drinking alcohol, while you haven't they tend to freak out.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

M8 I always go for coffee, and same nite lays probs 50%

Also- try and get them to buy your drinks etc it's a fun way to tease them- and if they do it bonus

never buy them anything

[–]PlanB_pedofile 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Think of it as lesson learned. Knowing when to fold is how great poker players play. A fool will stick out a bad deal.

A part of subliminal blue pill programming is men are told to tough it out, eat the shit sandwich, stay in it, man up, all clearly when they should have left the investment ages ago. Women are told to jump ship the very moment anything goes bad. They'll dump a man and swing to another branch at the tiniest of mishap.

[–]laere 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Have some self respect. If you werent attractef to her, then excuse yourself.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Call me weird but I never let the guys pay for the dates. I do it without anyone asking me to, simply because I WANT to do it.. but yeah, if someone grilled me to pay, id be wondering why they weren't offering.

Unless its one of the bastards you knew from when you were in diapers, those guys and girls never pay, they just want your food.

[–][deleted] 74 points75 points  (15 children)

and she'll never forget it

[–]idreamofkitty 72 points73 points  (11 children)

Maybe not but she probably thinks she dodged a bullet. At least thats what her friends are telling her.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 79 points80 points  (2 children)

Exactly. She isn't learning any "lesson" from this encounter.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Right. This is why more men need to follow suit. His example should be viewed as an inspiration to us all.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (5 children)

Her friend comes over. The type with loopy earrings and no man.

chicken head neck roll

"Giiiirl! You dodged a bullet right there! If he don't want you at your worst, he don't deserve you at your best!"

[–]ChirpChirp169 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Oh god. She would probably nod in agreement and then go home alone to cry when she realizes that she was acting her best.

[–]TheDon835 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The bigger the hoop, the bigger the whore.

[–]Fir3start3r 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The line is so cringe worthy....ugh...

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

At least he dodged the bullet and didn't waste anytime.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah theyll hamster it in to "he was obviously intimidated by how strong and independent you are" she'll be like yeah fuck yeah!

[–]iHeartCapitalism 22 points22 points [recovered]

I hope she doesn't.

OP did an amazing job teaching her that beggars can't be choosers.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 28 points29 points  (0 children)

A man might learn that lesson, a girl probably won't.

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (5 children)

Oh how the hamster must have went ape shit in that bar afterwards. Lol.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 40 points41 points  (4 children)

The bar probably made some good money that night.

[–]The_Floating_Dick 51 points52 points  (2 children)

And neighboring Burger King too.

[–]John_MayerMaynot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She probably asked for a little extra stacker sauce...

[–]randomredditness 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I had a similar situation where one met up with me after we chatted on the internet. She shit tested me, asked what kind of car I drove(newish TT at the time) to which I replied - I don't have a car, I have a horse. If you don't mind I'm going to ride on outta here.

There was no inflexion in my voice. No smile like I was joking. Just silence. I flagged the waitress, paid for my guiness and then got up and left.

It was really a series of incompatibilities the entire date and at that point I was like fuck it.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I would have said "First let me ask you this - how much weight have you gained since those pics on Tinder were taken?".

[–]techiejames 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Should have added something about keeping her photos updated.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

her bikini slimmer pics were on Facebook, not on Tinder.

She didn't lie. He just expected her 3 year old pictures to look like current.

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[–]Doctor_Mayhem 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Maxim #34: If she’s hot, why would she bother with online dating?

Chateau Heartiste summed it up nicely.

http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2010/09/bonecrker-34-online-dating-not.html

http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2010/08/bonecrker-53-online-dating-is-scam.html

Bonecrcker with more.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This maxim is intuitively correct, but my experience in the field(& on my phone) is different.

I would say that the level of sheer crazy is higher on tinder.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (17 children)

and this is why I say Tinder is a waste of time and it's full of crazy girls.

[–]redkick 25 points26 points  (8 children)

As opposed to… where exactly?

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

meeting girls during the day, and not online is a start.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I have fucked 20+ girls from tinder, it is definitely not a waste of time. I agree there's plenty of time wasters and SIF's but you can see in the OP how I dealt with this one

[–]alp2014 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tinder is only worth it if you are 7+ on the good looking scale. All average dudes should stick with approaching chicks in real life

[–]Relentlessmind 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I won't tell you how you should have acted here because I don't think it was too terrible but I will say a couple of things that I always follow with Tinder. For one, it is dying a slow death. Having used it during its high point I can say it was much better this time 1 or even 2 years ago, but at this point many girls are using it more for a validation tool than anything. Second, do NOT trust a girl's pictures. I can't tell you how many girls I met who looked nothing like their picture. Girls are social media freaks, they know all the tricks to be able to make their pictures make them look a point or two above their norm. I always tell the girl a time and make sure to show up about 10 minutes late, and I have her meet at a specific place where I know she will be isolated and not in a crowd. This shows the girl I have priorities in my life and gives me a chance to scope her out from a distance. If she looks heavier or uglier than her pictures I no show. It's fucking tinder, I don't owe anyone on there anything, and that's the female's attitude about it also, so you should realize that.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (6 children)

Why should OP or anyone be concerned if a rando fattie on tinder thinks he's an asshole? Why is it so important for folks in this thread to attach the label of asshole to this guy?

[–]Nofapguru 259 points260 points  (110 children)

You could've bailed without the 'I'm out of your league' bit. A true Alpha redpiller would just excuse himself and leave without hurtful words - that's the way of the superior man.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 345 points346 points  (56 children)

I think a lot of men get tired of being stoic and outwardly unfeeling to the benefit of others.

When a guy is deceived, he can let it go or he can lash out. OP lashed out, albeit, it was hardly anything terrible (like keying the bitches car) he just told her in his own words that she fucking cray if she thinks her 5 pussy, her fat folds and deceptive goofy pictures gonna get her a higher SMV man with a 50k car.

I think a lot of these bitches need putting in their place.

I, like yourself, sort of identify with "the renaissance man" ideal of masculinity, but a lot of guys don't here and I don't see anything wrong with that. Whether you're "rude" or "have class" as long as you stand up for yourself, who gives a fuck? There's nothing wrong with being mean to a bitch. In fact, I think a lot of 'em need it. If they've been pandered to their whole lives, told "Oh my you're so pretty!" (not to mention all the beta validation) we get 6's going about acting like 9's. OP is doing a service to mankind if this shit reduces her ego and aligns it more with reality. It means the next guy has less of a cunt to deal with. Perish the thought, she may realise her pussy doesn't queef gold dust.

Food for thought.

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[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 82 points83 points  (24 children)

OP did nothing wrong, and speaking exactly what you feel is sometimes healthy. Fuck her.

According to a lot of the sentiment shown here in this thread, Patrice O'Neal constantly lost frame and was "overly emotional" because he was never holding back anything. Patrice wasn't constantly robotically stoic, but he wasn't a bitch either.

The great thing about Patrice was, even though he was pretty verbally abusive, if you abused him back HE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE IT (he'd hold frame) he just wasn't "stoic" aka keeping his mouth shut all the time and being unreactive. He was only stoic to defend himself, to nullify other people's emotional violence. I guess Patrice "wasn't a true man" to a lot of the people here and yet.. that guy was confident as fuck and a slayer. Masculinity isn't this rigid thing. There are different styles and archetypes. Patrice wasn't perfect, he died in his 40's because he was a fat cunt, but his style worked well. He was an arrogant son of a bitch, negging/mocking the fuck out of women who pulled bullshit on him and got him TONS of pussy. This was his wife: https://twitter.com/vondecarlo

Some bitches will actually say "sorry" when you call them out. I remember an FR here ages ago where this happened, OP called the bitch out and she blew him in the car to apologise. He said something along the lines of "If you blow me I may be able to forgive you." I laughed my ass off reading that FR.

If you think "being stoic/holding frame (emotional state) and quietly leaving" is the best option, you won't get that gratitude/apology or school anyone on anything. If I were so inclined, I'd insult the bitch for wasting my time. Stop raping my time. My time is important to me, I don't have time for some bitches' bullshit silly games.

It seems like a lot of people misapply stoicism or think stoicism should be something you engage in ALL THE TIME. That you should be this robotic "no shit felt" kinda guy. Some guys do that and pull it off. That's one style. It's not my preferred style. I think constant stoicism is boring as fuck, I like to get my kicks.

I am stoic when I'm under attack, that doesn't mean I never go on the attack or enthuse my attacks with emotion/rhetoric though. Putting anger/emotion into your attacks in an environment where there is no to very little penalty for doing so only amplifies your point, having a more profound effect.

Men have a right to be angry, the reason people always try to invalidate male anger with BS is because they fear male violence. In TRP it's "noooo you're losing frame, don't be maaaaaddd." They try and shame you into being a complicit pussy so that you don't intimidate them with your rage/verbal abuse/body language etc. Yet at the same time, women are being mentally violent ALL THE TIME and not a motherfucker calls them out for it. Fuck that. You wanna put a bitch in line and aggressively call her out on her shit? Be my fucking guest. None of this half measure bullshit. Aggression has it's place in society. It's this "don't be aggressive" crap that has lead to all the lack of discipline we see today. When people fear no consequences, they act like assholes. A little shit half my age and size should not have the confidence to be rude to me. Same principle applies to women. Treat 'em like children.

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[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 24 points25 points  (5 children)

but this sub is so full of guys in the "stoics must listen and never be heard" camp that it wasn't even worth bringing up half the time.

I ignore a lot of people here, especially newer guys, because they insert their own ideals into RP and hamster "now that's alpha, folks!" Like I said, masculinity isn't rigid, and people who are strong don't fucking worry about whether "they are being alpha or not" they stand up for what they believe in, they behave in congruence with their beliefs.

If they are smart and open-minded enough they are open to having their beliefs challenged. They don't just roll over in the heat-of-the-moment though. If they want to be quiet they'll be quiet. If they want to go on the attack, they'll attack. They have a mind of their own, they do things on their terms. They don't avoid confrontation out of fear, if they avoid confrontation it's because they believe that's the best choice, not because they're scared, and they're not bullshitting themselves with that, lying that "it's for the best to be quiet" when really they just want to be quiet because they're scared of what might happen. No, they're true to themselves, and they swallow their own fear when they have to. A man comfortable with himself is not afraid to express and unleash his power when a situation calls for it.

A bunch of conflicting behaviours can be alpha because context is a bitch. Sometimes being quiet means "you didn't speak up" in other scenarios it means "you didn't take the bait, well done." Context and nuance is everything. Shit, even if you take the bait, turn it around and make the other person feel like shit - you still win. Defensive or aggressive style, neither is wrong. Shit's a preference. Just don't be anybody's bitch and get walked on. Stand up for yourself. You're a man. That's what men do. They have principles. They have pride. When people try to step on them they say "hold the fuck up" and question what's going on. They're not "yes, yes of course" nodding agreeable motherfuckers.

It's sad when due to man's passivity, hamstered in TRP as "being stoic" that women show more balls than men. A bitches' balls should never be bigger than yours.

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[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I only refrain from response when the situation calls for it.

Good post and amen. Silence is very rarely a shit test buster.

[–]bustanutmeow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am with you 100% here. I don't understand why people here think that speaking up to defend yourself is a bad thing.

[–]vicious_armbar 16 points17 points  (1 child)

In TRP it's "noooo you're losing frame, don't be maaaaaddd." They try and shame you into being a complicit pussy so that you don't intimidate them with your rage/verbal abuse/body language etc.

I think a lot of people mistake being a compliant pussy for losing frame. She was disrespecting him, and wasting his time; so he told her to fuck off. He views his time and money as valuable so he acted accordingly. Imo that's holding frame.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree with your statement.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I used to lose my shit, and that was uniformly bad. More commonly now I take a deep breath and plan out my shit fit. It works a lot better that way.

Controlled male anger is something to be feared all right. Feared by the putzes to whom we direct it.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Channelled aggression, that's the shit. Nuclear power but not Chernobyl.

[–]Anderfail 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Finally a post saying exactly what I was thinking. Out of the endorsed posters here, I find myself agreeing with you the most because you tend to base your line of thought in reality where men are not emotionless robots rather as thinking and feeling humans.

I don't know where this Autist emotionless stoic shit came from but I gather that not many here played sports growing up or else they would know that pure aggression and rage have their place in human interaction. Sometimes people do need to be slapped down and forcefully intimidated because that is the only way they will learn. In this day and age of entitlement and no discipline, sometimes this is the only way to get through to people because they just won't listen otherwise. This isn't breaking frame, it's using a tool at your disposal as a man. Men are supposed to be physically intimidating, it's part of why people emphasize lifting so much. When combined with aggression, but not necessarily violence, people WILL take notice and pay attention.

Anyone who took offense to OP's comment likely does not really understand their own masculinity.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

You wanna put a bitch in line and aggressively call her out on her shit? Be my fucking guest.

Teach me brah.

I had a 'friend' drag me into a conversation about how rape culture is real and we need to defer to women... I'm pretty much angry at this horseshit all the goddamn time.

[–]rpscrote 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Men have a right to be angry, the reason people always try to invalidate male anger with BS is because they fear male violence. In TRP it's "noooo you're losing frame, don't be maaaaaddd." They try and shame you into being a complicit pussy so that you don't intimidate them with your rage/verbal abuse/body language etc. Yet at the same time, women are being mentally violent ALL THE TIME and not a motherfucker calls them out for it. Fuck that. You wanna put a bitch in line and aggressively call her out on her shit? Be my fucking guest.

Jesus fucking christ this is true as true can get. Thank you for fighting the good fight

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just calling it how it is. Women get away with murder. A man merely raises his voice and he's "violent" or "abusive" or some other buzzword. It's pathetic.

[–]rsk01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Patrice would have stayed to tear the girl down to the point of straightening out her path in life, leaving her with actual wisdom and insight to work off. The OP was a petty hit and run to stroke his own ego. It doesn't add up for a person to hold themselves in high esteem yet be vulnerable or moved to emotion by the attacks of someone they consider inferior. Wolves care not about the opinion of sheep. Stoicism has room for being emotional, it's part of the human character but your actions shouldn't be dictated by them. If you need to set someone inline it should be to their benefit, not to stroke your own ego as that would be a display of being on the exact emotion level of those whom you claim to be above.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 11 points12 points  (1 child)

^ This is a good.

I would say it all depends on the frame the man has built around himself. You need to leave enough room in your frame to allow you to show emotions when it makes sense. The key is to not overreact and if a simple 'I'm out of your league' and leaving in the middle of the first drink after a woman deceives you is overreacting then I fear feminism has done far more damage to society than I thought.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The key is to not overreact and if a simple 'I'm out of your league' and leaving in the middle of the first drink after a woman deceives you is overreacting then I fear feminism has done far more damage to society than I thought.

We may have some blue pills/shills in our midst. Be vigilant. Report these faggot toe-ing-a-line "moderate" kind of posts. Smells like purple pill to me.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It ain't bragging if you can back it up. OP is completely within his rights to say that to this bitch...think about over the years how girls rejected you? Some women literally would try to make your life awful if you courted them and they didn't feel the same way. OP earned his spot in life, one which allows him to drive a nice car and date tinder babes at will. Good on him and good job shattering her ego. Maybe this will change her life and she will do se self examination, but I doubt it.

[–]SemperFiWashout 15 points15 points [recovered]

Part of the acceptance phase of TRP/AWALT is that online dating is going to result in these sorts of situations. X% of Tinder dates will have this happen, so rather than get get mad, OP should just accept the numbers.

Putting women in their place is an impossible task. A bit of Gandhi applies: be the change you want to see in the world. You can't change others. That girl needs to hit rock bottom and realize her goods are stale. That realization won't come from one guy being rude to her. If anything, OP probably pissed her off and triggered a rationalization reaction and extended her stay in hamsterville. She probably called five people to confirm her rationalization, and now instead of thinking she's an 8, she probably thinks she's a 10.

Myself, a "I take the bus," as I put my coat on is sufficient. The leaving without further explanation is lesson enough.

My $0.02.

[–]Brambull 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If anything, OP probably pissed her off and triggered a rationalization reaction and extended her stay in hamsterville. She probably called five people to confirm her rationalization, and now instead of thinking she's an 8, she probably thinks she's a 10.

Yea, I agree, and winced when I read this. The whole thing is a lot like catch and release fishing. It might feel good to rip that hook out the wrong way, but all your doing is throwing a fouled fish back in the water. Work the hook out the right way, and she'll be more inclined to see the wall coming and adjust her expecations.

I get that we are focusing on us men here.. but we are part of the human species too.

[–]JayViceroy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but she wasted his time. There should be a penalty. How he feels, he has every right to portray. Plus, he owes her absolutely nothing. He doesn't need to heed to her feels.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In theory the market correction should work, but in this age it's more likely she'll just ramble on tumblr about misogyny and never learn from the experience, instead using it to say she never did anything wrong and all men are pigs.

[–]Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I can't accept it when I am told "a true alpha wouldn't do ___." A psycho murderer can be as Alpha as an Alpha family man. Please take morality out of it.

This is how you get to believing things such as: "a true Alpha turns the other cheek" or "a true Alpha raises another man's sons," because that would be the morally superior way of doing things.

But you are leaning towards white knighting by not being honest with her because it will hurt her feelings. Not calling it like it is would just allow her to keep living with her delusions.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"No True Alpha" fallacy mixed in with argument from authority fallacy.

Make no mistake - there is still a lot of bullshit in the world, even here.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 12 points13 points  (0 children)

A true Alpha

A true alpha wouldn't care what anonymous people on the internet tell him he should do...

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 27 points28 points  (0 children)

A true Alpha Red Piller would? How the fuck would you know what a true alpha red piller would?

[–]DumpyLips 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I would TOTALLY agree with you if she didn't ask him about his car. With that question she made the topic of conversation "How much are you worth?" , to which he replied, "More than you"

[–]Hyajuko 15 points16 points  (0 children)

And then tip your fedora on the way out. You guys need to stop this "true man", "superior man" bullshit to justify your still lingering mi-lady-ness. So he said he was out of her league so what? Lots of girls do that shit without hesitation or guilt.

[–]Anderfail 26 points27 points  (6 children)

Without hurtful words? Seriously who gives a fuck? It's a goddamn Tinder date, it's not like he was asking a girl to fucking prom or to a work related Christmas party. Jesus Christ he is under no obligation to treat her well especially if she came under false pretenses and clearly wanted to see how much money he made. These women deserve nothing but derision and cold rage. I imagine OP probably delivered the mic dropping line in a calm manner and then walked out.

I initially thought that the SJWs weren't capable of subtlety but this is a fucking perfect example of this type of insidious subtlety that can ruin this place. Why do you care about her fucking feelings more than you care about him doing what he needed to do? If you truly understood TRP, you would know to ignore outwardly expressed female emotion and to watch their actions instead. OP did and reacted accordingly.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 5 points6 points  (1 child)

There is no need for anger here.

Relationships are a negotiation. She made her bid, she made her demands. She has wrongly valued herself in this instance and that's fine - people are allowed to wrongly value themselves. This is bluffing if intentional or deluded if not.

The worst of it is... if she does this for 12 dates eventually someone will say "brand new Merc" and bang her in the back of it. And later when she's still unmarried, she'll blame men for not growing up.

[–]Anderfail 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really have no anger here, more just pure indifference to her plight and a total lack of any sort of compassion about her feelings. However, I agree that she will likely never realize what she is doing and what he said likely doesn't matter at all to her because her delusion runs very deep.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (11 children)

I know I didn't need to be hurtful but somethings just need to be said. I can't stand deceptive women on tinder and she knew full well that my SMV shat all over hers before we met.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 21 points22 points  (10 children)

I can't stand deceptive women on tinder

Unfortunately, all women are deceptive. Places like Tinder just give them one more reason to do so. You should never take anything that a woman says at face value.

It's not our place to deny you your (rightful) anger at being lied to, but in time I think you will come to understand that women are insignificant creatures. Then, things like this won't bother you quite so much.

[–]AnarchyBurger101 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No worries, she probably got 5-6 beta boys to buy her drinks before she left, and then banged some fresh out of prison "quasi-alpha". ;)

[–]solaris1990 3 points4 points  (8 children)

'Deceptive' is a strong word for what I think you're talking about imo. It is not abnormal to want to impress in the dating scene and as a whole men are no strangers to it too. Example - I would note a difference between someone who exaggerates in a job interview and someone who invents outright falsities.

Unless I've missed what you meant...

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Deceptive is the perfect word. High angle shots, old pics from before the three kids, makeup, push up bras, hiding the crazy until she moves in, yeah deceptive is absolutely perfect.

[–]Kvantemekanik 2 points3 points  (2 children)

'People' are like this, everybody shows of their good traits and hides the bad.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 15 points16 points  (0 children)

No, what girls do is deceive you, not accentuate the positive. If a man wears 6"lifts and a body suit that makes him look muscular, is that not deceptive? Making her tits look bigger, hiding her fat, and covering up the zits and needle tracks in her arm are all deceptive.

Hiding everything is insecurity. I have a belly but do I wear a girdle? Fuck no, just a t shirt. If she can look past my arms, face, chest, voice, and attitude, then my gut is plainly visible.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Men lie to other people, yes.

But women will lie to themselves - habitually - because believing their own bullshit makes it more convincing when they tell it to someone else. What's more, women can change their minds on a dime simply because their feelings require it.

Their capacity for deception borders on being a superpower. Just look at what feminism has done with the lie that men were historical tyrants and oppressors of females.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Sometimes you gotta tell them what's up.

Sans emotion.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She's on tinder so there's really no reason why he should treat her decent if it's not in his nature.

[–]Forever_Unbroken 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A true Alpha redpiller would just excuse himself and leave without hurtful words - that's the way of the superior man.

There's so much no true scottsman in this sub

[–]rpscrote 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A true Alpha redpiller would just excuse himself and leave without hurtful words - that's the way of the superior man.

No true scotsman...

Run the cost benefit analysis. 1) feels good to tell off some entitled cunt, 2) costs me nothing because I don't care about her nor will ever see her again ever. Result: tell bitch off. Easy.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

These sorts of troll posts should be banned more.

[–]Smekiz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. It feels fucking good to explicitly win, but that really isn't a long game.

[–]UniversityofToronto 11 points11 points [recovered]

I actually drive a car worth 50k new

Look at Mr. Bill Gates in this bitch

[–]johnmal85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah my 40K car was $4,000 when I bought it. Context, right?

[–]TheRedPillRipper 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Gotta love the cricket world cup. Good job OP!

c'monaussies

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Great game. Maxwell is going to be a star this world cup, far and away my favourite player to watch.

Got home in time to watch the rest of England fold. My prediction is Aus vs South Africa in the final, with us winning.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Online dating makes me thankful to be married.

That's a scary thought.

[–]CouldntFindGudName 8 points8 points [recovered]

you are not what I want, I'm out of your league, have a good night, and walked straight out.

Men should start doing this more often. I know some guys do but image most guys doing it. The hamster will turn so fast it could supply energy to a small country.

[–]Echelon64 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Maybe I'm being Beta or whatever but if any girls gives two shits about what car I drive I leave.

Just my own values, I fucking hate cars and everything to do with them. To me they are just a thing to get me from point A to B, nothing else.

[–]fckredditt 3 points4 points  (1 child)

women who are old enough to have entered the real world will always care about a man's earning potential. maybe the girl didn't ask you what car you drive because she's smarter than that but she's always looking for indicators of earning potential. women who don't make a lot know they can freeload off of the guy and nobody would ever look down on them for it. women who earn a lot can't stand to have a guy make less than her because women are always looking up for relationships. they always want the man to be better than them or they can't be satisfied.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Grats on holding frame and having standards. A shame that there's 40 other men she matched who would've stuck out the date and even banged the 6.

[–]DickyMcDoodle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have a friend (ex gymnast....seems to be a chick magnet - I'm in a happy r'ship for reference), whenever a girl asks the car question he answers 'my mum's festiva'. he's quite well off, but again...we can't ask if their tits are real or if they like anal that early on.

[–]2popthatpill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And here I was hoping you really did have a VN commodore

[–]UserNumber47 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Haha oh man, wish I was around to see her face. I think this is what bitches like her should get for acting like they do, maybe they'll learn how to behave then. What you did was not rude, you were just being honest and didn't sugarcoat it. I don't know what's the deal with those accusing you of being rude. If anyone was rude it was her, not you.

[–]fordmarkII 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a 1989 COMMON WHORE.

[–]rattamahatta 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"What car do you drive?" - (laughs) "How much do you weigh?"

You don't want to throw a fit and storm of. You counter until she does.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A lot of guys missing the point here; hilarious how it's turned into a car discussion lower down.

It's not about the car.

It's about how u deal with her shit test.

___Always remember_

She wants you to pass the test

She's on your side

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

A couple of days ago I matched with a guy on tinder, don't know his job, didn't care really. He seemed a bit awkward but cool nonetheless so we arranged to meet at a local bar.

I was a bit nervous because I had gained some weight since I took my pictures and didn't know if he would judge me by the looks. We got a drink and while watching TV I tried to make some conversation to break the ice and since guys normally like cars, I asked him what car did he drive, he became all nervous and seemed a bit angry, his answer was: "A-a 1989 c-comod-dore".

He got up, his legs were shaking, said that he had do leave and left while stumbling around and I was left alone there to figure out what the fuck just happened.

Now I understand...

[–]justhadcesc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where are you from if I may ask?

[–]dhump 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What stood out to me the most, was that she was (is) a hairdresser. Nothing good comes of these girls. It's like they're the first to let go, the last to realize it, and have no redeeming qualities otherwise.

Truly the embodiment of the exact type of girl I've always gone out of my way to avoid.

[–]beastmoderage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can smell a fellow juicer a mile away. Brutal.

[–]stoicly_whimsical 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What shits me the most is that the sort of people that would make judgement calls about a car are the sort that actually know fuck all about cars.

End rant.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"So I just said "A 1989 commodore" ( I actually drive a car worth 50k new ) Then said I'm leaving, you are not what I want, I'm out of your league, have a good night, and walked straight out. "

Aw man, you totally could have milked the fuck out of this routine. But I guess your time is valuable. So I give you kudos for GTing the F O early when you realized she wasn't what you wanted.

[–]Philhelm 1 point2 points  (1 child)

When asked about the car, I would have been tempted to say that my parents dropped me off and that I only have a learner's permit.

[–]cazzah123 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Is it possible they might actually be interested in what car you drive as they like cars?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

About as likely as someone who likes architecture asking "So, what kind of building do you live in?" instead of the obvious "So, do you like architecture?"

[–]Idontlikekarmawhores 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Delete and block her on Facebook, change your number , you don't want that bitch to accuse you of rape no?

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (1 child)

I got home and she had already blocked me on fb, there is no way she can accuse me of anything, cctv would show me leaving the pub with her still there, and I went home straight away. I think false rape accusations are a real threat to men these days but not in circumstances like this.

[–]juanqunt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Awesome username, and you look great bro (no homo). You're definitely out of her league.

[–]TheSliceman 6 points7 points  (1 child)

change your number

Not neccessary, he just needs to prove where he was the entire day, like on film.

So right when you leave, take a timestamped pic of yourself getting in your car alone. Another one when you get home, alone.

Or, better yet, get a dashcam and save the save the 10 hours time including you in the car alone.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 32 points33 points  (0 children)

So right when you leave, take a timestamped pic of yourself getting in your car alone. Another one when you get home, alone.

The lengths men are expected to go to TO PROVE INNOCENCE because our legal system has regressed to the fucking 3rd century is ridiculous. Innocent until proven guilty? Not when snowflakes are involved!

[–]SillySparklyGirl 3 points4 points  (9 children)

Female long time lurker here. I laughed out loud! I am a stripper, so I'm used to these types of women. Where their sense of entitlement comes from mystifies me. Like, did you guys have the only double wide in the trailer park? Is that why you think you're a fucking princess?

I am 33, and I pull no punches. My body isn't flawless, as diabetes is a pain, and I work out and try my best. I say I'm a good 6.5, give or take. I learned a long time ago to assess what I wanted, and more important, what I could get. Girls have often said I "got any guy I wanted" when It was and always has been a matter of knowing what I can attract and what I won't. It sounds bad, but its life.

What I'm wondering is this: for the few (and I'm not sure if there are too many of us) who want a more intelligent an less dictated by society method of meeting/dating, what do TRP guys want? I often nod in agreement with you all, but is there somewhere I can meet TRP men?

[–]1oldredder 3 points4 points  (1 child)

no drama, no crazy, no lying, not fat.

Add to that we do prefer hot tits and a nice face but hey - if you can already meet the first line you're already past the big red flags and above most other women.

[–]SillySparklyGirl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fair. I'm 5'7, 155. 38/30/36. Brunette, blue eyes. I think I do aight, but again, I've learned well how to pull it and who I can pull. I've surprised myself a handful of times, but as I've gotten older, its not a bf I want so much as someone I can do relationship things with when social things call for it, but I still have my life.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Your last question is important and should be directed to /r/redpillwoman

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

you cant lock us down woman. ever.

[–]SillySparklyGirl 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Haha! Touche! Like I answered earlier, the older I get, the less I want a "boyfriend". Ive decided marriage is in all likelihood not in the cards for me. I also do not want kids. Period. I'm glad I didn't get married or have kids young, because as I've gotten older I've learned that what was really driving me to push for those things was the idea that it is " what I'm supposed to do". Letting go of that was so liberating.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if thats what your hamster reckons then good for you

[–]redditican 9 points9 points [recovered]

TRP is slowly going down the shit hole. I've been lurking for years and the post content is going down the shitter, do your fucking job mods.

OPs post isn't red pill at all. You broke frame so fucking hard and tried to hide your own insecurities by muh "I-I'm totally out of your league!"

That is something a girl would say. I think you need to read the side bar before you make a thread here, just saying.

[–]Nofapguru 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"That is something a girl would say".

Totally agree.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

10 mods, 100,000 users, and another 100,000 lurkers and BP Fems ready to pounce and concern troll.

You do the math.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

false. the reason you're not a mod is because of the kind of faulty assumptions you rely on. the only thing the mods haven't done is delete your shaming comments.

correction: frame is not an idol. OP broke frame because he didn't want to be with a liar that night. further, "that is something a girl would say" is something a girl would say.

OP had some faulty assumptions, too, such as thinking he was going to meet someone special on Tinder, in addition to himself going on a date for purely physical reasons and then getting upset when his prospect flared her ulterior motive. neither were interested in each other for good, healthy reasons. it's not surprising that both were disappointed. and if they continue to blame each other for this, you'll see more posts by this person about avoidable situations where he blames others for his own preference for casual sex.

[–]mythrowawaybruh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meh.

I would have banged a 6.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

OP, I want to tell you something. First, I think you did the right thing walking out of there. She lied; her pics weren't accurate representations of herself. It's evil to spend time with liars, and you got out of there with your life. But you lied, too. I tell you this not to shame you, but to open your eyes if you want them opened.

Thinking you were going to meet someone special on Tinder is a trap. I sense that you weren't really interested in someone special for Valentine's, but think about what you're communicating to the women you see. One way you might be able to understand this is to think about your valid disdain for her "what care do you drive" question, which wasn't a test as girls test, but was designed to gauge your attractiveness to her. For you, eroticism was about her body. For her, it was about your financial puissance. Neither of you were primarily interested in the other person for good, wholesome reasons.

And therein is your lie: you blamed her when you did pretty much the same thing. Not saying that you represented yourself as a multibillionaire but then she discovered otherwise. You were honest about that (aside from the hilarious remark about you driving a POS car). I'm talking about motives underlying the whole thing. Both you and she are lying to yourselves and to each other. Getting upset when your prospect flared her dorsal fin ulterior motive is convenient, but it won't help you grow. You were right to be turned off even more at that point when you saw what she was after (not you). But you weren't after (her) either. Not saying you had to be. You can't force attraction. But pay attention to your motives.

You're not going to meet a decent person when you're trolling for sex on Tinder. it's not surprising that you both were disappointed. and if you continue to blame each other for this, you'll be writing more posts about avoidable situations like this where you blame another for your own preference for casual sex over authentic relations, an immature preference that got you into a bad situation into the first place.

I know this stuff from years of sad errors. You got out without having wasted an entire year in recovery and suffering over one female. Count that as a blessing.

[–]Dorkchops 2 points3 points  (14 children)

You bailed on her after one question?

You need to realize that shit testing is in girl's DNA, and not every girl who shit tests is an evil cunt. If you can squash these shit tests early you can get them to act right. Or at the very least, fuck. Surely you weren't looking for wife material on Tinder, were you?

I feel like you just had your finger on the trigger for a rejection and you were planning on doing this if she made any weird moves.

[–]vicious_armbar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

His finger was on the trigger because she deceived him and was wasting his time.

If a girl shows pictures where she used to be an 9 but shows up as a 6 I might still bang her. Hell we both already showed up, so I might as well try to get my dick wet. But I'll be damned if I spend very much time, effort, or any of my money on her; and at the first sign of non-compliance I'm cutting my losses.

My primary constraint when it comes to women is time. I have a ton of prospects in my phone, and not enough time to pitch them all before their numbers start going stale. If a woman doesn't want to play by my rules, or give me what I want; then I'll immediately axe her and use that time to work on someone else who will. Its her loss. She's the one who took an hour to get ready, put makeup on, and drive all the way across town to a bar right next to my house. All I did was throw some clothes on, then take a two minute walk to the bar to evaluate the situation and see if she was worth my time.

The most powerful word in a single mans vocabulary is: "NEXT!"

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Asking about a mans car isn't a shit test, a shit test is something that determines your mettle and whether or not you are a pussy. She just wanted to size him up for beta bux potential, especially if it is a question to lead off the date.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

agreed. tests are primarily meant to see if she can dominate him, but this was a direct question about his ability to buy for her. gold digger or at its most harmless, someone who wanted to brag to her friends about the trophy she dated.

[–]Answers_with_lead 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Ok I'm confused. When did asking what another person drives become a shit test? I thought it was just part of basic conversation (though I'm not autistic like some people here, apparently).

"I drive a truck". Oh, what kind? "Ram 1500" Oh, nice! I love Ram's! "Yeah they rock; what about you?" See?

As for the tinder deception? Tinder is retarded. But, "hot girls" on dating sites have massive ego's already, going for them is usually a waste of time and I'm much better at meeting people in person then getting them interested in me.

I used POF, met below average or average women just as friends (no banging, no leading them on, my page is specifically deigned for this). We become friends, she invites me to meet her other friends at a party or whatever, then I befriend her hot friend(s).

It usually goes:This is my friend, Answers_with_lead, he's a firefighter. Oooh, nice to meet you. More often than not, they'll ask the person who brought me there for my number; so then I KNOW they're fucking interested!

Then I spread, like a virus. It has a very high success rate. It does take a bit more time, but I'm a patient man.

[–]1nzgs[🍰] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Because women don't give a shit about cars, they don't even know anything about cars other than brand names. They give a shit about how much disposable income a man has to be able afford X car.

[–]fox_in_sox1991 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lol op thought everyone was going to think he was a hero

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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

what car you drive, what you do for a living, what neighborhood you live in, are all not-so-subtle questions to try and find out your economical standing.

you're probably autistic if you can't figure this out

[–]Burner1701 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I always think you can tell a bit about a person by what car they choose, and I personally wouldn't take it as a golddigging question. I'd take it as an opportunity to see if she actually likes cars and if so, hell, a girl who is happy to watch Top Gear is always welcome. Often someone asking a question like that is hoping you will ask them the question back.
But otherwise, yeah if OP didn't like what he saw then leaving was fine. The little comment was prissy though.

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