Red Pill TheoryGame Cheat Sheet (self.TheRedPill)

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Since TRPGame has been intergrated (unsuccessfully in my opinion) into this main sub I have seen very few game related threads, so I thought I would share a couple of simple game tips to intergrate into everyday interaction with people. Disclaimer: I have not written these tips and do not take any credit for it, I found this back when TRPGame was up and running a couple of months ago. EDIT 2015-02-17 The original creater of this post DCLdit contacted me and gave me a link to his blog https://dcllive.wordpress.com/ It's all Red Pill and Game related with structure comparable to the content of this post, check it out!

-statements make educated guesses and are far more engaging

-effective language = speaking with fewest words possible while still maintaining your meaning and intent

-women do not see features they see how you present yourself

-women do not hear words they hear your intentions

-talk louder, then louder than that

-always make people break eye contact with you before you break it with them

-when engaging in conversation, suppress the urge until its your turn (one-up-ing)

-lean back

-do not lean forward

-watch others

-do not put head down

-pause, relax and slow down

-do not laugh at things you do not find funny

-take up more space

-stop approval seeking

-my boundary/frame is established, eg. “I value honesty, curiosity, education, intelligence and authenticity, etc.”

-keep your approval, keep your power

-project self-image and beliefs

-honest signals to practice

-do not stare, moral looking time

-dominant and confident posture and walk

-slower than usual movements and gestures

-be conscious of your body language until it becomes unconscious

-allow her to orient her body to you

-tone of voice, “hey what up”

-rub a girls back while hugging, do not pat

-physical escalation

-eye contact

-verbal contact

-hand to arm

-hand to shoulder

-shoulder to hip

-hip to leg

-face to face

-mouth to mouth

-things to talk about

-F.O.R.D (good things to talk about)

-Family, Occupation, Recreation and Dreams

-R.A.P.E (would not recommend using these as talking points)

-Religion, Abortion, Politics and Economics

-the inflection of your voice, do your statements sound like questions?

-be aware of the strength you finish your sentences with, some people trail off when they do not think others are listening

-ignore her beauty

-keep your eyes at normal resting size, if not a little bit tighter than usual

-while making eye contact do not over focus on one eye, move back and forth, find your rhythm - EDIT May 11 2014 - Since writing this I have noticed when moving back and forth it can come off as reactive, attention seeking and needy, use with caution

-soften your gaze to the point you can comfortably see both eyes without focusing on either one

-smile big with your whole face, like you just saw your best friend for the first time in a year

-breath from your belly

-before an act or action we need oxygen as fuel

-draw air into the bottom portion of your lungs before the chest muscles expand and draw further air into the upper portion -funny shit-test responses to “do you play video games?”

-“no I use mature media modules”

-“no I dabble in adult entertainment simulations”

-quotes -“No persons time, attention or companionship is more valuable than your own.”

-“You cannot allow your ego to become attracted to receiving specific reactions and responses from people.”

-“What you make yourself to be is a choice. What happens to you as a result of what you are, is not.”

-“Whatever it is you are feeling is a perfect reflection of what is in the process of becoming.”

-“Confidence is the reward for being Courageous.”

-“Men have approach anxiety and women have last-minute-resistance anxiety.”

-have preferences to create your identity

-if a guy is looking your girl up-and-down

-“Chief, eyes on your own paper.”

-keep moving on, but preserve what works

[–]Daisy_DukeNukem 108 points109 points  (39 children)

Someone really needs to do a post on cold approach. almost EVERY post is all about frame control, or what to do on a tinder date, or dealing with your wife/gf's shit tests and whatnot. So a post on cold approach/game would be nice. And of course, how to use cold approach to later spin those plates.

[–]Dorkchops 63 points64 points  (25 children)

There is nothing really to say about cold approach. You just walk up to a girl and start talking. That's it. All this shit about pick up lines, "openers" and all that is bullshit. Just start talking and don't sound stupid.

The unfortunate reality a lot of PUA people don't want to accept is that most girls won't talk to a random guy who approaches them. Most girls meet people through mutual friends. Those girls that do meet random guys don't care what you say.

[–]czabak 34 points35 points  (10 children)

most girls won't talk to a random guy who approaches them

This is not true. If you look decent, have positive body language and pick girls to approach sensibly (like not those obviously not in mood, in a hurry, etc.) 90% of the time they'll talk to you and be happy to.

Girls don't get approached as often as they like to advertise, with most guys being losers these days, many 6s and 7s don't get cold approached at all.

EDIT: I live in europe, this may work differently in other parts of the world.

[–]Kill_Your_Ego 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Cold approach is a necessary skill to have. Because suddenly there are women to pick up everywhere. Soon you realize how low value they all are. At least here in America. Maybe a full post on it will be useful though.

[–]topredhat 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You never did a full post. You never delivered the cookies!

[–]LongElm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sheeeeeesh preach it. If you're American and travel the globe.. people are genuinely nice and amicable. Even if you got your shit together and possess decent game, it may not be enough to attract your flavor of girls

[–]fittitthroway 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Are you serious about them not being approached as much though? Is that true?

[–]czabak 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Absolutely. I've been gaming in Prague and other larger european cities lately and seeing a man approach a woman is one of the rarest spectacles to see. A lot of women here will admit as much without hesitation. Many girls are so happy a decent man actually approached them that they lead the conversation themselves. And they are mostly great to talk to, very little shit testing and they are obviously not experienced in being approached by men. I've even BEEN APPROACHED here a couple of times, even though you're never sure whether they are interested in you as it is usually wrapped as seeking help after which they try to hand you the initiative. Getting sex on the first date is difficult here though and rather rare, so you have to do more talking before you get laid.

As I said this will differ from place to place, I heard horror stories about gaming in english speaking countries and have bad experience with dealing with British "girls" too.

[–]1ErasmusOrgasmus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can vouch for everything in this comment.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's different in Europe, there isn't such a huge pick-up mentality in the non-mediterranean countries. (A lot of Northern european countries would give you strange looks if you start talking to random people in general)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Freshman year a friend of mine gave roses to a random dime on valentines day in the library. Her face flushed bright red and she was giggling. Then she tweeted about it about got ~40 favorites. Maybe it was because he gave her roses, but at least the blushing doesn't seem congruent with gettting approached all the time.

[–]hiphoprising 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Girls will definitely talk to a random guy if they aren't acting like a bumbling fool.

[–]rovert_nednil 5 points5 points [recovered]

You are doing it wrong if this is what you believe.

I haven't seen this mentioned here much - but get a dog. If you are not having much luck on approach get a dog, you will instantly see much improved interactions. I meet so many people every day while out with my dog. They tell me stories, break out photos, share laughs, it is amazing. Current gf - met her while out with the dog. If you are a shy introvert, a dog (plus lifting and all the other good stuff on here) will change your life.

[–]Dorkchops 14 points15 points  (5 children)

I haven't seen this mentioned here much - but get a dog. If you are not having much luck on approach get a dog, you will instantly see much improved interactions.

I don't like a dog and fuck it if I'm going to get a dog just to meet girls. Taking on such a huge life responsibility just to meet the girls sounds like the biggest bitch thing a man can do.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I am assumimg he means if you like dogs and want one, then just do it... and how can you not like dogs?

[–]1independentmale 3 points4 points  (1 child)

They stink, they fuck your house up, they require a lot of time and a fair amount of money...

I love dogs, but there are plenty of reasons to not want one.

[–]Moldy_Gecko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Time and money sure, but first 2 depend ln breed and owner.

[–]circlhat 0 points1 point  (3 children)

The unfortunate reality a lot of PUA people don't want to accept

Spoken like someone who feels PUA is "Less" and knows nothing what he is talking about. PUA(The original red pill) knew that if they approach a girl directly at the day they needed to change their approach to indirect.

"Do you know the time" "Nice weather we are having"

They have to be none direct approaches and the conversation had to be anything but sex or dating. You do this to build attraction and once you get enough you ask for her number.

At bars and clubs girl expect to get approach and PUA's have it down to science , A lot of red pill information can be learned from PUA.

[–]Dorkchops -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

Spoken like someone who feels PUA is "Less" and knows nothing what he is talking about.

This is where i stopped reading. Learn to communicate.

[–]circlhat -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

You stopped when you were reading English? Probably the same reason for your poor opinion of PUA.

[–]Dorkchops -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

No I just don't take advice from shitheads. You wouldn't talk to me like that in person so I'm not going to take that shit from you on the internet either. That's how 13 year old socially awkward fucknuts talk. Learn to grow up and communicate like an adult.

[–]1menergize 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I disagree with this. Go read my two FR's I've posted. I have 3-5 other stories like them in the last month alone. I'm 5' 7" about [email protected]% BF and I own the shit out of it.

I'll approach any girl, and get her to talk to me, tall, short, fat, skinny, they all will. You're welcome to fly out and watch if you want.

[–]Dorkchops -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

first of all, its absurd to say that you can get ANY girl to talk to you.

Secondly, I meant most girls won't want to hang out with a guy they randomly met.

[–]jhsf 11 points11 points [recovered]

There are way too many factors involved with cold approaches for a solid write-up to be created. Everything about a cold approach encounter is relative to that specific situation only. One man's cold approach tactics may not work for another man.

The best way to succeed with cold approaches if you've no experience with them is good ol' trial and error.

Get out there. You're not going to learn how to approach out of the blue by reading posts on the internet.

[–]Hitlers_Boss 15 points16 points  (0 children)

No ones asking for a sure fire magic spell, but tips and tricks and pointers along with examples of this being implemented would be great.

[–]HeinousFu_kery 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm going to second this from experience. Since RP loves acronyms, how about "GOT" - Get Out There?

Each area, situation and population will have its nuances and you just can't ride the rote scripture through that stuff. You'll quickly find what doesn't work (hint: if "Hey sugar, wanna lock hocks and make gravy?" ever does work, you'll regret it in the morning).

You can't shortcut experience, good and bad.

Edit: Check out another post - http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2vxluj/on_the_cold_approach_and_day_game/

The last few paragraphs tell it all.

[–]JohnPeel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Some people will say go out on your own but I prefer to go out with my buddies then peel off with one of them who wants to try and pull.

Then find a pair of girls and just talk to them. A good opener is literally just "Hi I'm x", wait for them to introduce themselves and then immediately move into a simple talking point. Try and keep it topical and make sure you keep the initiative. If they look disinterested just excuse yourselves and find another pair.

The buddy thing helps because you can use each other as a foil, you also get social capital for actually having some friends and if it goes badly for one or both of you then no big deal, just rejoin your group of buddies.

[–]T-bear96 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The biggest thing I've learned to help myself more easily approach is to build up some social momentum. The hard thing about approaching hot girls is that you're all withdrawn into your head. You've been thinking for a while and switching to action is harder and harder the deeper you think. So to combat this, move around a lot and talk to everyone. Of you want to be able to talk to that hot girl as well as the sweet old grandma, talk to the sweet old grandmas around you. The idea behind this is that you bring yourself back into your body and initiate a sort of logorrhea. You're just flowing essence of you. Then it just becomes a matter of directing it to whomever you see fit.

[–]Upvote_To_The_Left 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the thing is, if you learn the frame control stuff, the cold approach game just becomes about what things NOT to do. The actual flow and what to say comes naturally.

then again, I have done over a thousand cold approaches, and I still get nervous and fumble sometimes.

[–]yougottabeshitinme 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The problem with cold approaching is reading about doesn't help that much. You have to do it to really improve. Try 100 cold approaches and record your results. Then get back to us about what you learned.

[–]Daisy_DukeNukem 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You know what, I'll do that. 100 cold approaches over this year. And I guess, record results I assume. Hold me to it!!!

[–]Anus_Pillager 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Over this year? You have to plunge into the pool to get used to the cold, not just dip your toes in. Get out there and do it in a month or less.

[–]Daisy_DukeNukem -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm kind of in monk mode / self improving so I thought I would improve myself then jump in later.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are some good youtube videos

[–]Mr_Again 27 points27 points [recovered]

Oh my god, all of those sample dialogue bits are so cringe worthy. I use mature media modules, chief!

[–]fordmarkII 4 points5 points  (1 child)

-always make people break eye contact with you before you break it with them

-do not stare, moral looking time

Not a contradiction at all.

What you REALLY should do is time your eye contact with 5 mississippi 4 mississippi all the way down to 1 mississippi.

[–]czabak 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The best advice I got regarding eye contact was to deliberately relax my eyes and facial muscles when talking to someone. If possible, do this well before the conversation starts and right amount of eye contact will then come naturally. Having tense muscles in your face is what gives you that weird intense look that creeps people out.

[–]DCLdit 1 points1 points [recovered]

I didn't realize it at the time but those are examples of agree&amplify.

EDIT - Mr_Again is correct. It is not agree&amplify.

[–]Mr_Again 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Err nope. If someone asks you if you play video games and you say "No..." and try to reframe it, you're just being defensive and insecure about your hobbies. Straight off the bat, too, it's sad.

[–]TheGillos 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Really dorky ones.

you play video games?

Yep, I also watch movies, read books and breathe air.

You actually need to ask? Weird.

You don't?

I do, what? You don't think nimble fingers are important?

Everyone who isn't amish plays video games, ha ha, do I look amish to you? It's the beard isn't it.

[–]Mr_Again 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Again, you're just being really weirdly defensive about your hobbies. Imagine if someone asked you if you played an instrument and you were all "yeah I do lots of things, I breathe air, why, what are you saying? What's wrong with playing an instrument?"

They're just asking man, you don't have to squirm, you just say yes.

[–]TheGillos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I agree. I was just trying to think of less dorky ways to handle that if it was a shit test.

Nothing I quoted would be said in a serious way though. Amused mastery.

[–]myupvoterforme 15 points15 points [recovered]

Good list. Only one criticism.

talk louder, then louder than that

Far, far too simplistic. If your goal is simply to talk louder than everyone else you end up looking like a moron.

How loud your voice should be should contrast with how loud everyone else's voices are.

If everybody around you is quiet/normal, then you should talk slightly louder than the rest.

If everyone around you is louder/shouting then, providing there are spaces in the conversation and people are actually listening to you, you should talk quieter than the rest**.

**The caveat and obvious downside to this assumption here being that this assumes you are respected by the group of people you are talking with. If they don't respect you, you're simply going to be drowned out. The long term fix is to build SMV. The short term fix, while not ideal, is to talk as loud as everyone else. It won't make you seem any more or less confident. It will just keep you in the mix.

You've already mentioned it but talking slower, using fewer words and with greater intent are musts!

[–]waylandertheslayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Talk louder, then louder than that

A lot of betas (past me included) learned to never be loud/attention-seeking, so when I first found TRP this was valuable advice. Basically talk loud enough that people can hear you clearly, even if they're a few steps away and there's some ambient noise. This was something I'd never really done before.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 10 points11 points  (2 children)

What do "honest signals to practice" and "do not stare, moral looking time" mean?

[–]amazingwolfboy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Express interest and be aware of how much eye contact you make. Too little is bad, too much is also bad. Find a happy medium. Edit: a good portion of trp is that old classic "be yourself" with the proviso that you understand what yourself should be follows the lines of what it is to be an attractive male. There are no tricks, no cheat codes, improve the quality of yourself, by humor, physique or other, be comfortable in your own skin, then don't let anyone make you feel awkward for any reason.

[–]JetbatUnleashed 12 points12 points [recovered]

I agree that game has unsuccessfully been integrated into the main TRP sub. This is a nice post (if not a little unclear.)

[–]gstvtrp -1 points-1 points [recovered]

Maybe because "Game" doesn't really work...

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am a firm believer that game only works if you focus on concepts instead of precanned routines.

Even the best routine has hole, if you understand theory you can tailor your approach specific to the situation.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Is that so Elliot Rodgers? How come if it doesn't work RSD, Roosh V and a score of others are making a roaring trade teaching guys how to game girls?

[–]An_All-Beef_Engineer -1 points0 points  (1 child)

if not a little unclear

Which parts? The physical escalation was the only thing that's not easy to catch...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

-F.O.R.D (good things to talk about)

-Family, Occupation, Recreation and Dreams

-R.A.P.E (would not recommend using these as talking points)

-Religion, Abortion, Politics and Economics

If these weren't famous acronyms then I'd have no idea what the hell he was talking about.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I have a couple random thoughts on this:

First, I think most of these things are how an alpha looks from the outside. Meaning the alpha just acts that way because he's alpha. he's not trying to do any of these things. These are things that you'll find yourself doing if your inner game gets strong. having said that making yourself do some of these things can be beneficial. but I think working on inner game and approaching without overanalyzation is more important. (never focus on one eye? lol like you saw that's not normal if you're trying to do that)


“You cannot allow your ego to become attracted to receiving specific reactions and responses from people.”

I'm not sure about these types of statements (external validation isn't allowed) anymore. I think on the path from betaness to alphaness it's fine and maybe even necessary to go through stages where you feed different aspects of your ego.

Maybe you go through a couple of years of fucking as many girls as you can. Maybe you work as a tutor or join a debate team to confirm your intelligence. Maybe you do stand up to get validation for your humor.

The trick is to not need the validation once you get enough of it.

I went through this process with my intelligence. I used to be a political junkie and I would always try to argue politics even if it was only tangentially related. I had an arsenal of above average arguments and I loved it. Now I have no need to validation in that area. I frequently act dumber than I am because it helps socially and is convenient a lot. I don't even feel the urge to talk about my hard classes or grades.

Having said all that I'm not a beta. I started as a complete omega 6 months ago and the road is long -- so maybe I'm not the best person to listen to about this.

[–]Searingcow[🍰] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

-“Chief, eyes on your own paper.

I agres with everything but that. You shouldn't "cock block" another guy, its annoying and sounds like something a white knight would say to earn some brownie points.

Other than that I fully agree.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (3 children)

This is pretty cringeworthy. I've seen this re-posted over and over. It reads like something a 15-yr old would post in Seddit.

[–]dedom19 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Agreed. Considering the highest SMV being supposedly at age 30-35 on average....why would a list created by what appears to be written by a teenager gain so much traction? It reads like a list of tips and tricks. This list has some things on it that should just come naturally as a man gains confidence, hopefully through experience in interacting with women.

[–]Corndog_Enthusiast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty good tips, but I have a couple things I would wish to add.

1) Women certainly DO see features, but they're usually only focused on if they are out of the ordinary or impressive.

2) You should not strive to have a dominant posture/body language. Asserting dominance too overtly will be noticed and you will be perceived as a "try hard". The posture and body language you strive to convey should be one of confidence; after all, dominance is something given to you by others by maintaining your frame. No amount of chest-puffing or perfect posture will grant you immediate dominance.

3) Speaking in a louder tone of voice is also inadvisable for the reasons above. Instead, you should keep a firm, deep (but not overly deep) tone of voice. Aim for unwavering, calm(ing), confident tone of voice. Project the impression of stoicism and steadiness; a voice that belongs to a man who can be trusted and relied upon.

4) Talking about your occupation isn't something a woman necessarily wants to hear when you first meet her, and if she does, then that would alert me to try and see her intentions. There will be mixed success with this, so I don't condone nor condemn this. I simply urge caution and encourage you to be attentive of how much interest the subject of occupation raises.

5) Not so much a disagreement, but rather a bet I wish to place. Somewhere on reddit, some BP'ers are going to be proclaiming that we teach the RAPE system as a guide to interacting with women.

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[–]mussedeq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

-the inflection of your voice, do your statements sound like questions?

Holy shit. Very clever of you.

[–]happythoughts32 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I love this because I have field data negating 1/3 of it.

[–]TheGillos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which 3rd? If you have a minute copy paste the bad ones.

[–]mrinthemix 2 points2 points [recovered]

By your F.O.R.D. and boundary frame you are setting yourself up as a beta provider male.....

[–]BeornPlush 2 points3 points  (5 children)

FORD and RAPE being acronyms for?

edit: Guys, it's a legit question. So, am I being downvoted because no one else knows?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Kinda rude that people were downvoting you, found this on google.

Good Things to discuss:


Bad Things to discuss:

R.A.P.E. :Religion, Abortion, Politics, and Economics.

Can also include weight and exes.

[–]BeornPlush 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thanks. I'm not a native english speaker so those flew right over my head, first time I read about them.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Googling something you don't know flew over your head because you're not a native English speaker?

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 1 point2 points  (1 child)

-tone of voice, “hey what up”

Somebody watched their David D Man Transformations.

[–]virtuosomaximoso 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have done the opposite of most of this list my entire life. Guess how things are going.

[–]mrshowdown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also use visualization using the above even when you do not go out. Preferably before you go to bed. Make sure you make it as real as possible. -See it in the first person POV -imagine the sights and sounds -See your clothes that your wearing -smell your cologne

And above all make sure you clear your mind of any negative thoughts throughout the week.

[–]soulmatter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

-keep moving on, but preserve what works

EDIT: mirror, mirror on the wall

[–]VernonMaxwell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

read this and all I thought about was this commercial, lmao


[–]spectrum_92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't agree with talking loudly at all. Talk at a moderate, comfortable volume and rarely modulate, even when you're furious it should be a change of tone, not volume. People who speak too loudly are annoying and often seem like they're overcompensating for some sort of insecurity

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How has this troll gone so long without being banned?

[–]cooltrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I'm a redpiller too. A progressive one.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Additionally if you have to move fast, do it with purpose, makes you look focused and organised.

[–]rpscrote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I keep reading your name as Cinnamon Ring instead...

[–]DCLdit 1 points1 points [recovered]

Upon reading the comments further I realize there are some legit criticisms. That being said, that post of mine was written awhile ago and I've learned a lot since then. Perhaps some of it is superficial or soaked in old pua lingo.

People are talking about it and its getting a discussion going so that what's important.

[–]Cinnamon_King 2 points2 points [recovered]

Perhaps a "Game Cheat Sheat" sequal is due?

[–]yelnats25 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Lean back not forward? Can you expand on this?

[–]An_All-Beef_Engineer 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Could you explain the physical escalation part?

[–]DCLdit 1 points1 points [recovered]

Hi An_All-Beef_Engineer.

That Kino part was my attempt at an example of escalating using your hand of course. It's a rough outline.

[–]An_All-Beef_Engineer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciated. Went full retard spending a few hours wondering how suspect it would look if I were touching someone's hip with my shoulder.

Thanks for the outline. Will certainly be useful...

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[–]kevkos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good points. For good things to talk about I would include travel. Family doesn't usually excite me, but a lot of interesting girls travel and love to talk about it.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Jesus. This comes off as a check list on how to guarantee you look like a bizarre autist. Subscribing to lists like this rather than being a context aware human is a sure fire way to "stay in your head" and never seem natural.

I think it was only missing the whole "approach from a 30 degree angle in nimbus state and wearing a furry hat"

[–]TheLolomancer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I can appreciate what you're trying to do and understand the difficulty of doing it right, please, for everyone's sake, stop talking out of your ass.

[–]iamokwithviolence 0 points1 point  (4 children)

-hand to arm

-hand to shoulder

-shoulder to hip

-hip to leg

-face to face

-mouth to mouth

i don't understand these ones

[–]DCLdit 1 points1 points [recovered]

That was my attempt at a brief step-by-by-step escalating guide. It was written on a phone so that's why it looks odd and doesn't seem to flow very well.

I should have put...

-hand to arm

-hand to shoulder

-hand to hip

-hand to leg

-mouth to mouth

It was from awhile ago. For people who aren't naturally good with woman It can seem cold and calculated.

Now that I feel comfortable around women (relative to how I'm feeling about myself at the time) I rarely ever think of 'kino'. I just look for windows to escalate.

That being said, I still get AA just like everyone else. It's funny, when I'm fooling around with a woman I can have almost no reservations on my sexual urges but when it comes to striking up a conversation with a stranger that I'm aroused by, I still get that damn anxiety.

[–]iamokwithviolence 1 point2 points  (2 children)

okay, but still... first you touch her arm with your hand, then you touch her shoulder and then... how you touch her hip with your shoulder? after that it's clear again. actually this is really good guide, i've been using it naturally even before knowing about it :)

[–]DCLdit 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yes I agree. The 'shoulder to hip' thing was silly. It was a step in a sequence that omitted the 'hand' part. When I first wrote it I never thought I would be sharing it.

actually this is really good guide

Thanks man.

[–]iamokwithviolence 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yes, it shouldn't be "cold and calculated" when you're in the field, but once you read it it really makes sense and you don't have to think about it. Off topic - i'm not native english speaker. I used lot's of "you" in this post. How to fix it?