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[–]SophisticatedBean[S] 31 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Likely boils down to female choosiness/fickleness. Women have more sexual regret. Men regret missing out on sex. Women are also generally regarded as more favorably (women-are-wonderful effect).


Other interesting results on female fickleness cited in this study:

Women blame their male partners more often for breakups than men blame their female partners (moderate effect size).

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1998-10075-011 (Choo et al., 1996)

Men are more likely to claim that they do not know what caused their past breakups (not knowing what caused a breakup seems to affect around 10% of men, but only around 0% of women, of those who experienced a breakup).

https://doi.org/10.1177/0192513X03254507 https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8cac/04a71b433c465b781738bb77423d4af79528.pdf (Amato & Previti, 2003)

[–]comptejete 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are more likely to claim that they do not know what caused their past breakups.

Reason

Women blame their male partners more often for breakups than men blame their female partners.

Accountability

[–]innocent_butungu 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Intredasting...

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What this tells me is that a man has to use this to his advantage - never badmouth your ex and play the "im still in love with my ex" card.

[–]Ezreal3 52 points53 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women be bitches

[–]simoska 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beautiful. Proof that females are assholes.

[–]glad2besad 17 points18 points  (56 children) | Copy Link

It always comes down to Briffault’s Law and Hypergamy.

[–]SophisticatedBean[S] 19 points20 points  (55 children) | Copy Link

Everything comes down to Bateman's principle. Women are more choosy due to greater parental investment. Women can afford to date up (hypergamy) and determine most things in a relationship (Briffault's law) because men have higher sex drive and are more promiscuous. A perfidious adaptation that only the cold logic of evolution could have come up with.

[–]Futureman999 1 points [recovered]  (35 children) | Copy Link

I agree with everything except this:

men.... are more promiscuous.

Have you seen this?

My black pill translation is by the time they get married, they've had so much random chad dick the ordinary guy who's willing to sacrifice his home, his life, and half his income for her just doesn't measure up.

[–]SophisticatedBean[S] 6 points7 points  (32 children) | Copy Link

My black pill translation is by the time they get married, women have had so much random chad dick the ordinary guy who's willing to sacrifice his home, his life, and half his income for her just doesn't measure up.

I think women simply get bored sooner as a result of their choosiness. Intimacy reveals the man's flaws, so other less flawed men become more sexually attractive. Feminists misinterpret this as female promiscuity. In truth it's a result of loose hierarchies, feminism, economic stagnation and lack of gender segregation.

The main evidence for this is that women much more likely fall in love with their affair than men.

79% of women who have affairs report falling in love with their affair partner, in contrast to only a third of men who have affairs (Glass & Wright, 1985, 1992)—an emotion hypothesized to come online primarily in long-term mating contexts (Buss, 2006).

https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2013/02/The-Mate-Switching-Hypothesis-FINAL-PUBLISHED-2017.pdf

More evidence is Klusmann (2006) who found a greater decline in sexual drive for women in those who cohabitated with their partners compared to those that didn't. Unfortunately this finding has not been replicated since, AFAIK. The literature interpreted that as women using sex to ensure continued investment from their non-cohabiting partner (which is not as necessary once cohabiting and married). But another explanation would be the one I gave above.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247161055

[–]Futureman999 1 points [recovered]  (31 children) | Copy Link

Maybe when a man has an "affair" it's usually with a much less attractive partner because it's the best he can get without commitment. We all know examples of obese women who brag about the fit men they can get into their bed.

So for a woman guys who will hit it and quit it are much more likely to be the most attractive men they've been with. Hence the instant "love".

[–]coconutismyreligion 3 points4 points  (30 children) | Copy Link

No. Mens brains are wired such that they can detach emotionality when it comes to sex. Women cannot. If we dont see a man as dating material we most likely will not sleep with them of be attracted to them. Men on the other hand have no problem hooking up with a woman they see no future with or would never date.

[–]Futureman999 1 points [recovered]  (27 children) | Copy Link

This is not 1955. Lots of women hook up now.

Hookups are so easy for women, they can afford to be picky. Not so much with husbands, because we don't allow ten women to share one very attractive husband. When you're talking 1 to 1 relationships, that drags average women down to average men.

That's why women complain so much that there aren't any decent men to marry nowadays. They want high earners who also look like the handsome hunks they've been hooking up with. The math just doesn't support that. Too few hunky neurologists to go around.

[–]coconutismyreligion 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if it's not 1955, regardless if they hook up more , it still isnt satisfying or beneficial to us in the same extent it is to a man.

Idk, I know many amazing men who want one woman to settle down and have a family with while they provide lol Found one myself. All I had to do was choose lol 🤷‍♀️

[–]coconutismyreligion 0 points1 point  (25 children) | Copy Link

Needless to say I'm satisfied with him sexually . My point was that out of commitment sex is pointless. Its just a tool.

[–]Futureman999 1 points [recovered]  (24 children) | Copy Link

I can't speak to your individual situation, but a lot of women are finding out they can't stay interested in the beta they finally settle for. They still want husbands to bring in income and do chores, but after a year of marriage they are baffled they can't stand having him touch them.

I know it's hard to see another point of view as a woman, because we've had half a century of being told women are saints and men are knuckle dragging animals. But imagine a world where most men don't want to hook up with average women, because there are brothels on every street corner full of supermodel-level beauties, that cost $10. Now every high school boy has had access to top tier women since puberty. By the time they marry some local plain jane years later in their thirties, how could their boners even care? Every little irritating thing she did would be magnified. It might be men filing 69% of divorces.

[–]coconutismyreligion 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

A few errors I'd like to point out specifically with the fact that men cant grasp the idea of a woman who sleeps around with many men. Making the women in those brothels not very desirable. Sure he would go there but that's not who he is going to want to make his gf 💁‍♀️. Or marry.

I dont know women who are not appreciative of a prover and dont know many who wouldnt want one. Women usually negate risk and reward better. Why on earth would I cheat or leave a provider male. That's absurd. There may be other reasons for divorce but I highly doubt some attractive guy with nothing to offer would be the reason a woman cheats on a real, providing male. Not to mention risk losing a great life over a dick. It does happen for sure but it's not often. In fact, I believe men cheat more often than a woman simply based on their need for sexual variety even if they love the woman they are with. It's also safe to say women want commitment more often compared men.

Settling is a problem yes. Make sure your not being settled for and that would probably fix the problem. Not sure why men have confused an alpha with a beta, when all my female friends attest to a provider being an alpha. He has something over his rivals, and that's income, making him a much more valuable prospect. It's not in a womans best interest to divorce, I suspect it has to do with there being no more gender roles - which I theorize maximized each partners natural instincts / strengths based upon biology and psychology. This allowed them to contribute to the family unit in what came natural to them (instinctively). Women are gentle and better at caring/nurturing Men are better built to withstand longer periods of endurance and to lead.

I'm sorry, but which women expect a man to provide AND do chores? Thats not 50 50, and dont go for those women. Plenty out there who would have that done with a hot plate of food ready when you come home because working all day at work is hard too, not to mention supporting a family. A woman should have the deceny to take care of the home if she has been given the beautiful gift of being a stay at home mother.

[–]coconutismyreligion 1 point2 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

In my experience men with money (ability to provide, and who want to) respect women a lot more than an average man. The difference is astonishing. I've never been treated better in my life. I always say it's because they can afford to respect us.

It's always the broke man who is spiraling out of control with anger trying to establish dominance over a woman because he cant earn her respect due to him not being a real man (provider). Subconsciously she resent this type of man and he feels emasculated because he wants to provide but cant. They tend to cheat on their wives who split the Bills 50/50 with them with women who they end up providing for on the side. This is due to them being able to feel manly while doing so, something he doesnt feel with his wife. A woman will also never let you forget how HALF of everything is hers because SHE paid half. It honestly bruises mens egos, especially when she starts saying this stuff publicly in front of strangers and all your mutual friends lol.

But again, this.is just what I have witnessed overrr and over again, like clockwork. Oh and I'm a woman, so I think it's safe to say provider males are valued higher than non provider males. I tall about these sorts of topics with all my gfs. And while very few say they wouldnt want a provider male, as soon as a gf gets one, you can see the envy all over her face. Deep down it's what we truly want. Some just havnt accepted that yet because they think it means they have no rights lol

[–]TryhardPantiesON 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men on the other hand have no problem hooking up with a woman they see no future with or would never date.

This is absolutely correct, men (including myself) will have sex with absolute hideous creatures, land whales, etc just for the sake of sexual release.

On the rest, you are a bit wrong, women today hook up a lot, sometimes even more than men, almost any woman can simply go outside her home and wait for a passerby to ask him to have sex and she is very likely to get it. It really is that easy, if she isn't picky of course.

[–]coconutismyreligion 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes we know its correct lol. And yes, women do have an easier time attaining sex if we wished. We just have higher standards since supply for the demand is in our favor.

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[–]comptejete 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

the cold logic of evolution

There is no logic. Evolution throws the whole bowl of spaghetti at the wall, what survives to best propagate its genes is what sticks.

[–]SophisticatedBean[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Evolution throws the whole bowl of spaghetti at the wall, what survives to best propagate its genes is what sticks.

Isn't that logical? Logical means simply mechanical (not teleological).

[–]comptejete -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I suppose you could say that it's a logical conclusion given the circumstances.

[–]itskevvy 1 points [recovered]  (14 children) | Copy Link

Some of the things you stated are false.

Women are more choosy due to greater parental investment.

Oh really? So all the college girls sleeping with 12 different guys a year are looking for parental investment?

You are spouting Bluepill and old traditional thinking with this erroneous outdated belief. Young women have sex for pleasure and have no desire to get pregnant. They don't base partner selection on who would be "a great father" or "stick around". They have one night stands. Note all the single moms out there that got pumped and dumped by bad boys particularly in the black community. C'mon bro step your intellectual shit up. Hope you're not relying solely on the thoughts from liberal academics. I have known single moms, white women here in the USA, who are absolute sluts. They got deadbeat baby daddy's that look like meth addicts and who they said were "abusive"

Women can afford to date up (hypergamy) and determine most things in a relationship (Briffault's law) because men have higher sex drive and are more promiscuous.

Ah 🙄 women have a high sex drive. For a couple of years here recently I had several women that sexted me. They were incredibly horny and masturbated frequently and wanted to sext all the time. I was pestered by a few of these women. Women masturbate in the shower all the time with their shower head wands.

If women appear to have less of sex drive it's probably because they are more discriminate about who they find attractive than men are. That's a separate issue from sex drive. Women will get pussy tingles for attractive fit men which are in short supply.

A perfidious adaptation that only the cold logic of evolution can come up with.

Let's focus on technology. Online dating apps and social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter have superceded "evolution". Women now have access to a pool of more attractive men that they didn't have a couple decades ago. That's allowed women to indulge their sex drives which previously may have been muted due to limited opportunities to date or hookup with better looking men than was present in their day to day lives.

Additionally

In my interactions with married women I have learned that they are taking advantage of social media to have affairs and e-sex with other men. 20 years ago a typical married woman would simply become bored with sex with her husband (or LTR boyfriend). Such a woman might think she had a low libido issue. That's the old thinking. Now in our current social media era a woman that gets bored with her current partner turns to the internet, posts a selfie, and gets compliments. She will get messaged by men. She'll get pussy tingles and her libido will rocket back up as she flirts and sexts men. She'll meet men and fuck them. I believe there have been multiple studies confirming women get bored with their partners faster than men.

[–]glad2besad 7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

This is BlackpillScience not BlackpillAnecdotes. I see nothing wrong with was he said.

Women are more choosy, because they HAVE to be biologically speaking, but they have almost unlimited options. If a man had unlimited options he would have hundreds of hookups a year, not 12.

You’re basically just wrapping what’s already been said in some personal anecdotes and calling SophisticatedBean a bluepiller. Most of us are blackpilled to the core and use this sub to maintain an accurate and scientific collection of evidence free from personal bias and anecdotal fallacies.

[–]itskevvy 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh really? Is that why recently it was shown that no psychology studies could be reproduced?

All the studies here fall under the category of psychology and sociology. This pseudoscience and nothing more.

If you never interacted with women than of course you'll take studies at face value.

My anecdotes are more valid than these "studies". Nearly every married woman I chatted with online no matter the platform or circumstances that we met one another was inclined to cheat.

Let me remind you that Charles Darwin came up with the theory of Natural Selection based on his anecdotal observations.

[–]SophisticatedBean[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

My anecdotes are more valid than these "studies". Nearly every married woman I chatted with online no matter the platform or circumstances that we met one another was inclined to cheat.

This may stem from a selection effect in that married women who use online dating want to liberate themselves from their partner and may be particularly horny.

[–]itskevvy 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

This may stem from a selection effect in that married women who use online dating want to liberate themselves from their partner and may be particularly horny.

This is plausible. But none of these women I interacted with were on dating apps. Two of these married women had posted selfies on Reddit so they likely were out for make attention. Several other married women I met organically through Words With Friends (mobile game).

[–]SophisticatedBean[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Some anecdotes" is not good enough. See for example how much variance there is when repeating data collection with a small sample size in these gifs:

https://twitter.com/ajstewart_lang/status/1064900074512285696
https://twitter.com/ajstewart_lang/status/1020038488278945797

[–]SophisticatedBean[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

So all the college girls sleeping with 12 different guys a year are looking for parental investment?

There are women who are just as horny as men, just a lot fewer. The point is that women's overall demand for sex is lower.

If women appear to have less of sex drive it's probably because they are more discriminate about who they find attractive than men are. That's a separate issue from sex drive.

I mentioned that: "men are more promiscuous" which means women are more choosy.

Facebook and Twitter have superceded "evolution"

Technology changes context, but not biology.

I believe there have been multiple studies confirming women get bored with their partners faster than men.

... which is likely also just choosiness. They want a better partner than their current one sooner.

[–]itskevvy 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

There's been research that has been highly publicized that demonstrates that social media use and smartphones are rewiring the human brain. I'm surprised you're not read up on this. The proof is you and I checking our Reddit inboxes daily. Everytime a person gets a DM or a like on Facebook or Twitter there's a dopamine release in the brain.

Technology is changing women and their expectations. It's changing the way they view themselves both positively and negatively. Two decades ago the term beta orbiters did not exist.

[–]SophisticatedBean[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

social media use and smartphones are rewiring the human brain.

You can't simply "rewire a brain". Psychology is hard to perturb. What does change is context which in turn changes incentives, norms and then behavior. People execute the same adaptations in different context.

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[–]itskevvy 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think women are more promiscuous than men.

[–]innocent_butungu 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Greater parental investment is a evopsych thing and it being an evopsych thing doesn't hold very well in today's society

[–]BlackPrideWorldWide 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I totally understand why. Lotta settling going on out there, which means lots of emotional baggage. Girl dates plain looking guy for pragmatic reasons, feels violated every time they fuck, but has to keep up the fake pretense of "attraction" long enough to get that marriage license/divorce payout. Resentment and anger build up over the years, and they can get nasty in a breakup, ESPECIALLY if she didn't even get what she wanted and feels she prostituted herself out for nothing.

[–]Anexitane 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners"

Guess that makes me an outlier then.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Based

[–]Pm_me_socks_at_night 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is it possible that females are just being more honest about the ex? I've known 2 guys who on the surface are like "yeah it's fine, just didn't work out" but when they get drunk their negative attitude about the ex comes out.

[–]TryhardPantiesON 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I notice this happening just recently after the relationship has ended.

As time goes by, people tend to see the past with "pink tinted glasses", meaning, we bullshit ourselves to believe that things were better than they really were.

You may have had a rocky relationship with some psycho girlfriend, but after a few years you remember only the good stuff, and look at it as another learning experience.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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