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Yesterday, my male feminist coworker basically told me that men need to settle for ugly chicks. (self.TheRedPill)

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Just remember that there are now plenty of feminists disguised as dudes out there trying to dissuade you from seeking out the pretty ones and settle for women far below you.

I mentioned that I was crazy attracted to one specific waitress in the bar by our work, and said something like 'I can't quite pinpoint what it is, but while I find it difficult to be captivated by a woman, some women just have a wow factor to them'.

His response 'dude, your standards are too high. All men's standards are. You just gotta fall in love with someone, give it six months or so, and tell yourself over and over that you love her'

I was like, 'yeaaah, I'm not interested in any of that. I'd rather go to the grave single than settle for someone I'm not happy with. I've been there, and it sucks.'

He kept trying to tell me to settle, but I tuned him out for a bit and changed the topic. I've seen his ugly wife, and heard all the shit he goes through and all I can say is helllllll noooooooooo. I would not put up with that.


[–]TekkomanKingz 276 points277 points  (16 children)

Sounds like a great guy with a lot of potential LOL

[–][deleted] 286 points287 points  (7 children)

He'll make a woman a great husband someday. A really nice guy. Would be a great stepfather for someone's kids.

[–]Isaiah4verse1 60 points61 points  (6 children)

Yeah while she's checking her inbox at SSSSSBBWLUV.com.

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (5 children)

True love means love at any size. He's a nice guy, not shallow at all. He loves me for me, not for a number on a scale.

[–][deleted] 69 points70 points  (0 children)

"If you go by weight, it's two chicks at the same time..."

[–]Isaiah4verse1 45 points46 points  (2 children)

Nah, he loves you because you'll serve him well if he needs a cache of protein in case of a natural disaster.

[–]galileh 22 points23 points  (6 children)

Potential earnings?

[–]SwissPablo 22 points23 points  (5 children)

It's "security", not earnings! Damnit, don't you know your euphemisms? /s

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Don't forget a man with ambition and a guy who has something going for him.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

a man with ambition

HA! "Ambition." Yea, I bet they love ambition. "I'm a pre med student" and "I'm a med student" never quite worked as well with the ladies as "I'm a doctor." The ambition is there for the students, the compassion and caring about people is there for students, in fact there is only one real difference between being with a med student and being with a doctor. Hmm, wonder what that could be?

[–]Ass-systole 2 points2 points [recovered]

Don't forget he also has to "have his shit together"

[–]javi404 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I hear a woman say that, I look at them and realize their life is a complete fucking mess and that they definitely don't have their shit together.

[–]koncept61 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Sounds like guy trying to convince himself

[–]armenia4ever 108 points109 points  (5 children)

Yea I'm still waiting on women to "lower" their standards for my uglier friends.

[–]slaughterproof 26 points27 points  (1 child)

They probably will once they hit the wall...

[–]Dopebear 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Assuming they have a good chunk of $ of course. Women shouldn't need to make sacrifices, right?

[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Methuselah, thou shalt be dead and gone, hence this prophecy, come to nigh.

Tarts would rather

Polish urns

With their lips

Than an unsightly man's

Balls...

Unless doused

In the whiff

Of paper.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Redpill wouldn't exist if that happened.

[–]ECoast_Man 31 points32 points  (2 children)

His response 'dude, your standards are too high. All men's standards are. You just gotta fall in love with someone, give it six months or so, and tell yourself over and over that you love her'

This is an early contender for the coveted Worst Relationship Advice of 2015 Award

[–]Dokkobro 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's gonna be next years Super Bowl commercial right after the Schick ALL4one women's leg razor halftime show, directly before an ASPCA special documentary short about abused kitties.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (13 children)

Basically he's telling you to find an ugly bitch and convince yourself that you're in love with her so you'll feel okay when you have a bridge troll wrapped around your arm when you're out on the town.

It's okay that you have to close your eyes and think of that girl from work when you fuck your wife, otherwise you'll go soft. That's how love was supposed to be.

[–]Endorsed ContributorScumbagBillionaire 67 points68 points  (10 children)

OP said the guy had an ugly wife.

Misery loves company. Which is the story of a lot of married men who say stupid shit about women and relationships.

It's like the religious people who can't deal with the fact that other people are atheists. They don't care what they believe in as long as they believe in something. If other people believe in ancient books it validates their own existence.

[–]damn_romanians 20 points20 points [recovered]

This is also my opinion. I read the whole text twice and I really cannot deduce how OP came to the conclusion that his coworker is a feminist. Yes, all feminists are losers, but not every loser is a feminist. To me, it sounds like the guy was trying to convince himself, not OP, of that fact. Because seeing another person having high standards, and trying for better makes you feel like shit for putting up with your own misery.

[–]Dizzordr 31 points31 points [recovered]

Oh he openly talks about how he's a feminist all the time. His wife is a feminist. His friends are feminists. He goes to a feminist class. He is a feminist. Lol

[–]h22keisuke 3 points4 points  (1 child)

One viewpoint that tends to be promoted by feminists is that makeup and physical fitness standards are oppressive to women, and are instated by men.

It may not be an actual tenant of feminism, but it is a view held by many feminists. Much like suicide bombing isn't anywhere in the q'aran

[–]circlhat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Misery loves company.

Or the man was brainwashed by a blue pill society and its looking for everything but misery

[–]h22keisuke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are referring to terror management theory, which is highly relevant to understanding world views in general.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTDCRedPill 130 points131 points  (16 children)

I believe it's my job as a man to bend over backwards and fight for the children I will have and provide the best for them in all things. Forcing my children to live life ugly is the most monstrous and lazy thing I could possibly do. The deserve the best, and anything else is simply abuse. You found your best; congratulations. I haven't found my best yet.

Let him chew on that for a bit.

[–]TekkomanKingz 26 points27 points  (0 children)

He won't get it...Trust and believe

[–]1cover20 5 points6 points  (11 children)

But some people believe that kids inherit most of their brains from the mother and most of their looks from the father.

I know a guy who's short and ugly but brilliant. He married a girl who looks like a model and is several inches taller, but not much smarter than average, because he's hot shit in business. And their kids look like him with her brains.

[–]CockBruises 17 points18 points  (6 children)

Genetic recombination is a completely random process. A million cards enter the building, a lottery is drawn, the winners are shuffled, and half a million leave. There's no rhyme or reason to it whatsoever.

[–]LostOnEuropa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sucks...all the best intentions cannot predict what your children will be like..best to find a woman who is hot and not dumb. If possible. Or don't have fuckin kids. Not sure which is better.

[–]DinosaursGoPoop 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This reasoning right there is why my wife and I agreed to get married. We are both intelligent, good looking and have very dominant personalities. We knew our children would have a higher chance of those same qualities. Which it turns out paid off quite well. Neither one of us understand how anyone could ever settle down. It's fucking baffling to us both. If passing on your genes is important to you why the fuck would you ever go for half of them being inferior?

[–]Hatorader 1 point2 points  (1 child)

And yet you settled down? Or am I missing something?

[–]tofeelforever 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He means settle for something less.

[–]1raceAround126 141 points142 points  (111 children)

I find it amazing some of the guys I work with when I actually meet some of their wives. More than a few times, I met guys who I thought would have been pure girl-bait. Then some fat bitch rolls through the door who orders them around and treats them like shit and I remain gobsmacked.

Don't date fat women, don't date bitchy women, don't date anyone who doesn't treat you like you treat them!

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

There is this very religious guy I know who I feel really bad about. He is very fit, good looking (looks much younger than his age), and very outgoing and confident but he clearly made the mistake of marrying young. His wife is this obese woman who wears a fuck-ton of eye makeup and says a lot of stupid shit all the time. I have to imagine the only reason he hasn't run away as fast as possible is because it would be unchristian of him (also probably kids).

[–]labiaflutteringby 39 points40 points  (2 children)

A lot of them were probably hot at first. They know exactly when they can stop caring about their appearance. The ol' bait and switch.

[–]TheRedPhil 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I read this as bait and sandwich.

[–]abcd_z 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is why I never promise monogamy. If she feels there's nothing she could do to lose you, she's far less likely to make the effort to keep up her appearance and otherwise make you happy.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 40 points41 points  (41 children)

don't date anyone who doesn't treat you like you treat them!

Not quite.

Remember, men and women are different, and need to be treated differently.

You don't want a woman to order you around and give you instructions in life. But that's precisely what women need.

[–]aa223 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And most of all don't date women who are a combination of the two.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 17 points18 points  (6 children)

I can agree, but on a worse scale... we have a nickname for military spouses... dependapottamus' These bitches look like Walmart patrons, but they are married to some of the most badass men in the world. When I was in the Marine Corps, I was married twice... both times, I'm pretty sure my wives were in the top 3 of anyone I ever worked with.

[–]Isaiah4verse1 29 points30 points  (51 children)

Exactly. These blue pill morons actually believed the myth that reject women would love them better because of all the rejection they suffered and their desperation. They thought they would be getting an easy lunch with them. Reject women such as fat, ugly or petite women always have a massive chip on their shoulders.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (48 children)

Reject women such as fat, ugly or petite women

Curious, why are petite women in the same category as fatties and fuggos?

[–]JayViceroy 42 points43 points  (27 children)

This is probably a lot more of a personal preference than anything, but I don't date short girls. I wouldn't want my sons to be short, so short girls are off my radar.

[–]pilledwillingly 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Definitely a personal preference.

[–]through_a_ways 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Eh, I have the same exact preference. Short girls (like below 5'3") and non-white girls, would not have kids with.

Downvote me, don't give a fuck, whateva

[–]paynehouse 15 points16 points  (21 children)

Dating a short woman is okay if her father is tall.

[–]Corndog_Enthusiast 30 points31 points  (7 children)

6'4", I think short girls are cute.

[–]paynehouse 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Short girls are great because you can dom them way easier. And they fucking love it.

[–]Corndog_Enthusiast 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I actually omitted part of what I was going to write... Something along the lines of being able to pick them up while giving em a good time.

You hit the nail right on the head.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Can confirm. One of my ex girlfriends is a 5'1" blonde with natural D-cup boobs. She loved it when I'd dominate her in bed.

I miss fucking her. She was crazy, but the sex was fantastic.

[–]1003rp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really don't understand the hate for short girls right now lol I love short girls. Very fun in bed. I agree if both their parents are really short it may be a concern if you have a kid with them, but I'm not worrying about that's

[–]bells_320 11 points12 points  (0 children)

6'3" and I love me some spinners.

[–]MicroMinion 0 points1 point  (12 children)

For me it's excactly the other way around. My mom is 5.9" an my dad like 5.5", however I am 6.4"

[–]zip360 12 points13 points  (8 children)

Might not be your real Dad :o

[–]cruxae 4 points4 points [recovered]

Nope. My parents are 5'6" and 5'4". My brother and I are 6' and 6'3" respectively.

Nutrition and physical activity has a lot to do with it.

[–]GreatWhite_Buffalo 5 points6 points  (4 children)

If you live in the developed world, it's unlikely that you were malnourished to the point of having your growth stunted.

I really doubt that your childhood diet/activity level accounted for more than a couple inches.

[–]Kingoffistycuffs 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Chant with me now!!! DNA test! DNA test! DNA test!!!!

[–]antidoxdevice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are your parents first gen immigrants?

[–]TitsAndWhiskey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They tend to be particularly crazy in my experience.

[–]Isaiah4verse1 1 point2 points  (16 children)

They have no figure and are easily overlooked because they're so short. It's like screwing a 10 year old boy. And short chicks have MASSIVE Napoleon complexes. I have seen this first hand and I've never ever in my life have known a petite chick to be otherwise.

[–]1cover20 14 points15 points  (3 children)

A girl with a small ass has TOTALLY different looking legs and ass than a boy. One is girl-shape to support a womb, the other isn't I guess, but they are totally different.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

This. I myself am 5"0, and even I stopped going for short girls. "You think I'm going to like you just because I'm short?" was their general attitude when short guys approached them. Dayum.

Do you have any examples of your own?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There's this girl I thought was pretty cute, she was "petite", but it suited her. She was 18 at the time when I met her, as was I. I met her again about 4 years later, and even though I remember being attracted to her when I first met her, I felt like a total pedo because she looked she could have been a little girl I picked up on the street. It was an extremely uncomfortable experience.

[–]Isaiah4verse1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

LOL. Imagine what women would say if we told them we didn't like short girls.

[–]1003rp 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Plenty of tiny girls have tits and ass. I think you're confusing Petite with super skinny. Petite just means short.

[–]dan_legend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Am black, can firmly state that yes, fat ass petite girls are sexy but anything else looks like a 14 year old boy. A la justin bieber.

[–]1cover20 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Great post except for "petite". Petite can be very very hot.

[–]1DavidTeGnome 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know of one relationship that doesn't make me thankful to not be in a relationship. From a guys point of view, every single one of them makes me cringe. Beta sliding and thirst seem to be the main culprits, but not the only ones.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know lots of hookers and husbands of ham beasts are really good for business.

[–]piccolo3nj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of times they weren't fat when they started dating.

[–]irondal2 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That's delusional. "I love her, I love her, I love her.." There's no need to do that shit when a woman has that captivative quality and allows love. It's not very easy to find, but I can't imagine living in that guy's fantasy land is any easier. Fuck that.

[–]Billetbill 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If that guy told me some stupid moronic babble about forcing myself to love some worthless random bitch, so I could pay for her ice cream and illegitimate kid for the next few decades... I'd ask him if that's how he landed his shitty wife, forcing himself to accept her. If he admits to doing this, the guy is just some troubled human who is trying to rationalize his life and force it upon others. If he can't admit to forcing himself to love his wife, tell him he did and that he is a total bitch-boy.

[–]InferiousX 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Does your work allow blanket parties? Sounds like he needs a blanket party.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

What's a blanket party? It sounds cozy and inviting like a pillow fort :-) /s

[–]TekkomanKingz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

In other words is that a type of "Face down ass up" party for the less facially gifted ladies?

[–]T_H_E_T_R_U_T_H 13 points14 points  (3 children)

You lost me at "male feminist." I seriously don't get it. I know it exists, but I don't get it. It's so sad that they believe feminism is about women paying for their own meals and shit like that.

[–]Bottled_Void 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I was happy with the definition of feminist from twenty years ago. Essentially equal rights (for women). Sadly this idea has been corrupted into 'special rights' for women.

The same applies for race and sexual orientation, I think everyone should be protected legally. So that they're not denied work and not attacked in the street based on that attribute. But it seems there are all these new programs set up, only available to people based on who they have sex with or what gender they are, doesn't sound like equal rights at all.

Sadly the SJWs have all grown up with equal rights already, so now all they care about is getting more of these special rights because they're oh so oppressed. Maybe they should go to Afghanistan and see where they should be putting their efforts.

But back to OPs colleague. Sounds like he's the one that settled and is having a severe bout of envy.

Nobody should settle. Unless you're happy to settle in court, ten years down the line when you're finally fed up pretending.

[–]cruxae 7 points7 points [recovered]

Feminism was never about equality.

You know what was the first giveaway? The name.

F E M I N I S M. It's main focus is to promote women's rights/privileges/status. The equality stuff is in there to appease the liberal society.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Only take advice from people who are in the position that you want to be in.

Otherwise they are not qualified. Cultivate a filter. Ask yourself, is this person that is dishing out advice happy/in the position I want to be in/an authority on the topic.

If not, just smile and nod and quietly disregard everything they say.

[–]Dizzordr 8 points8 points [recovered]

This is exactly my point of view lately. I don't look up to anyone who I don't admire. And the people I don't look up to are just amusement for me now.

[–]1cover20 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Make sure those people aren't people you're interested in sexually. Don't look up to them. Instead, dominate their sexuality.

[–]denmaur 12 points13 points  (1 child)

"tell yourself over and over that you love her'" So basically his advice is to brainwash yourself into believing that you love her. I guess that's what he did.

[–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So basically his advice is to brainwash yourself

Very fitting advice for the situation.

[–]RedRisingHood 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That is actually sad.

Deep down, he probably resents his wife, putting himself in that situation he isn't even doing her a favour. Love is not some sort of vague, passive state, love is a hot emotion like anger or hatred, love is the bulge in your pants, love is your juice dripping from her chin

[–]DandyReps 26 points27 points  (1 child)

I hate people like that. Honestly I wish you'd told him off. He sounds like the kind of person who, because he can't do something/didn't do something, he will go around telling others they can't do it either. He needs to accept that he's settled for trash and stop trying to make people settle for trash.

Edit: a word

[–]mythrowawaybruh 10 points11 points  (6 children)

My mom is from Jamaica. Super old-school in that she believes a woman should be a good homemaker and whatnot. She knows that I date around with attractive girls. She told me to settle down with a lesser attractive woman. Less of a headache.

I think she's on to something. I'm down to settle down with an average looking woman that's not a nutcase and has a great personality rather than a really attractive nutjob.

[–]mysterymanstan 15 points15 points [recovered]

Dude, it's not an either-or dichotomy.

Plus, the hotter they are when young, the longer the slow natural decline in looks with age. Hottie at 20 = pretty at 40.

Fat ass troll at 20 = land whale at 40 with sagging islands for tits

[–]regal1989 6 points7 points  (1 child)

It's a shame that it's perfectly acceptable in some circles for women to talk about changing their man's personality, but God help you if a man suggests they both lose weight and eat right.

[–]gg_s 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"I can change him."

Changes happen.

"He's not the man I married."

[–]through_a_ways 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Plus, the hotter they are when young, the longer the slow natural decline in looks with age. Hottie at 20 = pretty at 40.

I don't think so. If they're ugly/fatasfatassfuck when young, then yeah.

But I think "average" or "plain" girls age better than super hot ones. A skinny, less sexual looking girl loses little of her physical charm in the next two decades, while a busty curvy girl ends up with bags of sagging fat everywhere.

[–]bourbonhipster 9 points10 points  (0 children)

this is the dumbest thing ive ever heard. this isnt even a 'redpill' issue. this is a complete lack of self respect and a larger problem with westernized society as a whole. If youve 'settled' for something youve lost. This isnt about being alpha or beta or whatever the fuck. it is a signal that you are a low-achieving, lazy, self-deprecating fuck. No venturous individual of any sex 'settles' for love 'because'. No self respecting person lets themselves get fat. fuck anyone who thinks they can 'let themselves go' or 'marry fat' for happiness because contracts.

[–]aa223 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ah the crab mentality in that one. Well at least you have the dignity to stand your ground and an image of what hell is like through your friend.

[–]joe_bruised_ego 9 points10 points  (1 child)

As with most stupid bullshit, it can be destroyed with a single word: “why”

“You have to settle”

“Why?”

[–]friendlysociopathic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amazing both how effective this is and how angry it will make some people if applied well.

[–]-Awake- 8 points9 points  (0 children)

give it six months or so, and tell yourself over and over that you love her'

Yeah definitely sounds like stockholm syndrome True Love to me

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Don't say anything to him, just nod in agreement... And then plate the waitress.

[–]Downvotesohoy 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Our standards are not too high. Our standards are too low. Too many guys are being pathetic and desperate and making the women feel wanted. That shit makes them think they're 8's or 9's when they're 6 or 7's at best. So, I just wish guys would stop being so pathetic. So we can get standards back to natural level.

[–]rojo-pildora 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I think you did great telling him you'd die before settling. In any case uglies should be settling for the feminist beta's. But they hold out for that alpha.

I have had instances were I woke up with cyote ugly and a terrible hang over. I'm sure millions of other girls experianced that from other men that were way out of their league. However the girl was there dtf for that guy giving them a false sense of their smv.

Point is all these bitches (male fems as well) say 'just settle, just settle' when they wouldn't do the same themselves.

[–]rib-bit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I tried it - I can tell you definitely that it does not work -- I wasn't happy.

[–]TogiBear 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Plate the waitress then have her bring you lunch.

Seeing you have access to a high SMV woman then watching how she bends over backwards for you might just make his balls plop back into his sack.

[–]Dizzordr 3 points3 points [recovered]

I know I'm not good enough for her.. Yet. Lol. But that's why I do what I do, and someday soon she won't be good enough for me amirite

[–]1oldredder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sure? What quality of woman becomes a waitress? A student, an actress-to-maybe-never-be and a nobody-forever.

All she's got is her tips and her tits. In life that's not much.

I'm fairly certain you are good enough for her.

[–]1cover20 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No woman is too good for any man. (The reverse is not true.)

Internalize that, remember that, it's the truth. She's just a woman. If you enjoy her, keep her!

[–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No woman is too good for any man. (The reverse is not true.)

The way I interpret this is that any woman, under the right hypothetical conditions, could potentially fall hard for any (or almost any) man.

The reverse isn't true, because society doesn't tell me to dislike saggy tits, I just dislike them.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He has a point to a certain extent. Some men will be left alone if they don't settle by lowering their physical standards. Dating even a low value woman can give you experience with women and sexual experience. Just continue to work on yourself while in these short-lived relationships.

Then again, the men who date beautiful women tend to be pretty average looking to even ugly I found. So dating beautiful women is within any man's grasp, that is if she isn't taken already. Chasing the beautiful woman unicorn can be like trying to get rich playing scratch off tickets - in the end there is great potential to wind up broke.

Picking up waitresses is tres difficult.

[–]redpilldude 9 points10 points  (2 children)

What a pussy. Why do you hang out with him?

[–]Dizzordr 14 points14 points [recovered]

He isn't my friend lol. He's my coworker who works like 4 feet from me.

[–]mykonos_rm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a typical guy accepting his lot in life and lacking the drive or ambition to do anything about it. Wouldn't be surprised if he had any degree of self awareness and cried himself to sleep every night. I mean, just that last line in that quote you have from him pretty much tells you how defeated this guys is.

[–]HoneyVortex 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ask him if it's appropriate to tell a woman to settle...

[–]SwissPablo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You can bet your ass that "ugly chick" won't be settling if they can help it.

[–]vanhagen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nothing wrong with having high standards and being attracted to someone for purely physical reasons. And why do you need to be in love with anyone?

[–]LostOnEuropa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What a waste. Glad you rolled your eyes deep, op. Fuck that...Worst. Advice. Ever.

[–]chrisindub 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is just male hamstering.

[–]KilluaKanmuru 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I won't let my child feed from the tits of a HB6. Fuck that.

[–]1oldredder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

About time someone started thinking of the children.

Oh why, oh why does no one ever think of the children?

doubleplus upvote for you, m'gentlesir

[–]boxofcookies101 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Only time id settle for a Non~hot chick is if she had the personality of a unicorn. Meaning she's kind, loyal, no drama, cooks, constantly sucks dick, sexually open, and when she puts on makeup she's decent looking. You know the type of chick that's trying to make you happy.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's not really settling though. People have multiple aspects to them. Judging people on looks alone will leave you with a very limited, and shallow pool of options.

The woman you described more than compensates for one short coming in many other areas. And because these areas are equally as important as her looks, that by no means, is settling.

[–]thegr8b8m8 3 points4 points  (9 children)

What if i honestly find fat girls sexy?

[–]s0und0fyell0w 21 points22 points  (0 children)

well if you live in the usa I guess you are in luck.

[–]ucfgavin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thats your thing...guys have different preferences. However, that doesn't mean you should ever settle.

[–]Isaiah4verse1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

See an eye doctor. An ear, nose and throat specialist couldn't hurt either.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Adipose tissue isn't attractive.

[–]regal1989 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Still out of luck if they don't find you sexy. RP truths extend to most women, even the fuller bodied ones. At the end of the day, if your gal is attracted to someone other than you, and she thinks she has a chance to get away with it, she will.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His response 'dude, your standards are too high. All men's standards are. You just gotta fall in love with someone, give it six months or so, and tell yourself over and over that you love her'

Wow. In principle what's the difference between this and what an ISIS officer might say to a suicide bomber recruit? If that isn't an attempt to (and an example of) brainwash(ing), I don't know what is.

[–]ddy4sissy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

YOU guys do realize that SOME guys actually like to be abused right? Physical and mental abuse. Something like they like being a martyr... Thats all I can figure on some of these guys

[–]SplashArtist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You didn't call him a bitch?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Feminist, used to be old maids. Different word for everything.

[–]SpeedMetalPunker 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Hahaha, how bout no. I've been there, and it sucks. An ugly woman lowers your social status, and makes you look pathetic. Ugly girls are also the most clingy and insecure. You've gotta set your standards high, women will take notice when you won't fuck just anything.

[–]1iluminatiNYC 4 points5 points  (1 child)

When your friend sounds like a 70s R&B singer, you have a problem. That is all. mic drop

[–]metalwarriors 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Come on now, there's a better song to reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5IVuN1N6-Y

[–]Abadoobie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So he's trying to convince himself that his choice was the right one by convincing you it was the right one. Pretty standard way to rationalize something one doesn't actually want.

[–]king-schultz 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You know, lately I've been thinking that men should start doing what some women do: marry a woman for her career/money, regardless of looks (I mean within a 5 to 6 range), and then do whatever the fuck you want. Basically cuckolding the women.

[–]Isaiah4verse1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I foresee this being the trend in the near future.

[–]denart4 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Its the other way around. On okcupid for example women rate 80% of men unattractive. Thats 30% too high.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'm really new here(and very grateful I've found this place) so I won't comment too much until I'm fully educated.

I just wanted to say that I have a friend that is exactly like the OP coworker. He constantly tells me that my "standards are too high" and that it's "high time I settle". Not only that, my friend is constantly pointing out the most horrid beasts and egging me on to ask them out. It's starting to piss me off.

Anyway, I'm glad I've found TRP. You guys are doing great work!

[–]1oldredder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think I'd pipe up with "wait... is that a man?" or "... isn't that from Labyrinth?"

[–]aazav 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hahaha.

Why? Just because he had to??

He wants others to suffer because he had to.

[–]HungryGeorge 4 points4 points [recovered]

I've seen his ugly wife, and heard all the shit he goes through and all I can say is helllllll noooooooooo. I would not put up with that.

The world is full of people who want you to live under the same wet blanket they shiver under.

[–]1oldredder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

wait! one's getting away! retrieve, retrieve!!

[–]riverraider69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've seen his ugly wife, and heard all the shit he goes through and all I can say is helllllll noooooooooo.

Cognitive dissonance. He went down this road, and it's much easier for him to argue that it's the right road than to face the fact that he's fucked up his life. Explains quite a bit of white knighting.

[–]Mmagikarp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same here, bro at work doesn't want to play the game, he "hates the chase", he wants 8< to just drop open legs because he is a "nice guy". Dude settled for a average girl, because "she loves him like no one else will". He asked for my opinion, and bro to bro I told him, there are plenty of people that hate him, and you will meet more people that will hate him even more, some will even fantasize to kill him.. So why cant there be more than just one person that will "love you"?

[–]Lyrad1002 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Well, mathematically, he's right. There are simply not enough attractive women for the men out there. This is made even worse by modern diets and an epidemic of obesity.

And that's one of the many reasons I'm chronically single.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Also not enough attractive men mathematically. If you want an attractive girl then be attractive yourself. If you're ugly then having a 9+ or better standard might be an issue. That's why it's so important to lift, eat clean, and not dress like a/be a slob.

[–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

women aren't making themselves entailed, it's the guy like this making them so.

[–]toothbrush_your_anus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

male feminists are basically ward from let's kill ward's wife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v8ZcvJUwas

[–]swordfish1985 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the exact thing I hear from my all married friends and some friends in LTR yesterday, "your standards are high bring them down, settle for a below average girl you will come to love her eventually". To that I smiled, a girl passed by us smiling back at me and then everyone turns to me and says how do you do that? LOL

[–]WeCantHaveFun 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I fucking love letting libfags and other pussy types talk and talk. I never have bigger condescending grins.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He sounds like a whiney bitch. My fiancee is not the prettiest woman and she's chubby, but she's a freak in the bedroom and wants sex nearly as much as I do (and I want sex a lot and get it a lot), and let's me get off the leash, and he have a submissive female together (we met in the BDSM lifestyle and have stayed in it).

Men and women have to be true to who they are. If you can't settle for unattractive women, you can't settle for unattractive women. It's your life and your right to succeed or fail, some people hate that because they don't have the courage to take any chances for themselves.

I've nailed pretty and skinny girls, and while they were fun, they were disposable. And boy were many of them pissed when they found out I got engaged to a chubby girl. She's my bitch who I'll love till I die, and we'll have each others' backs likewise. We've been through thick and thin and when she thought I was a pauper (for three years I lied to her about being broke [made six figures in the third year, came close the second, and did over fifty the first]) she stuck by me and encouraged me and when I told her I needed to borrow four grand she lent it to me and I paid her back over six months. She got pissy, but she never complained.

A good woman is hard to find, but once you find them, you have to be a fool to let them go. Good lucky, buddy, live free, live well.

[–]ostroman1989 4 points5 points  (0 children)

no need to settle no need for ugly bitchy chicks

unless you want to show off you are married and the arrangement suits you and shes too grateful and deluded to do anything.

[–]arjuice 5 points5 points [recovered]

Stay strong, you are doing the right thing. All these limp-wristed wieners are jealous you have a set of functioning testicles.

I have accepted that the majority of people I encounter will be either social justice warriors, feminists, statists, betas or some ugly concoction of these groups. Pay 1/2 attention to them and keep strong. These people need to drag you down to their standards because they cannot accept how pathetic they are and your success/aspirations expose their character flaws. They need to grow the herd to keep the volume in the echo chamber high enough to avoid confronting their flawed logic/belief system.

Always remember that an "Alpha" by definition is a minority class. Understand the majority and use it to your advantage.

“To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson

[–]Dizzordr 4 points4 points [recovered]

No worries. I'm never going to be like that guy. Just something I thought was simultaneously hilarious and sad.

[–]Pm_MeyourManBoobs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some men just love to be loved, not much you can do to persuade them otherwise

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know someone who married an poor, ugly girl because he wanted his marriage to be based on love and not sex or money. He convinced himself marriage was for 'love, money, or sex'. They're still married after 20 years, no kids. I was the best man.

[–]Rougepellet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a total dumbass. You don'f need to read rp stuff to realize how retarded that sounds. Just don't be a beta ranger or an omega ranger and open your fucking eyes. Basically find someone You wont be happy with, keep telling yourself you love her and forcibly brainwash yourself?

[–]1oldredder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would flat out say "My standards can't ever be too high. That's the quality of woman I get and that's not going to be reduced. Ever"

I do like your response too.

[–]1nzgs[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Should have just smiled and nodded along. The world needs beta bux and if a "man" is happy to play that role then leave him to it. It's only worth helping people who want to help themselves.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Sounds like he's trying to justify the lingering thoughts in his mind that he may have made a terrible mistake by marrying his wife.

[–]Rooibosisboss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You just gotta fall in love with someone, give it six months or so, and tell yourself over and over that you love her

Good god, literally brainwashing yourself.

Really though, the most painful thing to me recently (since a few friends of mine have recently become single) is how often guys see an attractive women and just think or say "nah too pretty" type stuff.

Guys seriously are now programmed to think they are LUCKY to just get a date with a girl. As though they are not bringing anything to the table. Especially when you add to the fact that most women sans makeup even the 9's and 10's without usually look at best like a 2-6, but guys just don't use makeup to hide flaws. Women really think they are as good as they look when they are all done up.

Don't ever consider yourself lucky just to be with a girl.

I remember one time in high school I was with a girl. We started going out. Now I actually didn't really like her that much and there was never anything invested on my end, but this made me think.

Anyway so I started doing stuff with this girl, hanging out, talking, meeting up and hooking up at several parties. So eventually we are going out. Every time we would be together all I ever heard were compliments (for lack of a better word) about how "lucky" I was.

Seriously, over and over and over, from both guys and girls. She never even once tried to correct them either. I really had to laugh though. I mean I'm no perfectly cool brad pitt looking James Bond suave guy or anything (certainly wasn't in high school). Still I couldn't help but think "hey, maybe she's lucky too".

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People in this world will ALWAYS try and convince you that their flaws and mistakes aren't flaws and mistakes.

Pepole at their core just want to feel normal, to be apart of the group.

[–]Santo26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Best of luck to him with that

[–]Spywin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just gotta fall in love with someone, give it six months or so, and tell yourself over and over that you love her'

What is wrong with this? If you're both in love, why would she be below you?

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