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For me, when I get over the fear of rejection, the opposite fear comes over me: the fear of rejecting. I have historically in my life stayed in relationships way longer than I should have - I think that the reason for this is I just have so much empathy for the woman. If she likes me, I don't want to break up with her even if I don't like her. I went through some breakups early in my life that crushed me and now I feel like I never want to do the same to someone else.

This is obviously a wrong mentality for me to have. Any man or woman has the right to leave any relationship that's not a great fit for them and they shouldn't consider the other person's feelings very much in that decision. I'm saying this now but deep down I don't firmly believe it. It's like my soul thinks it's morally wrong to cause someone to become attracted me and then leave them.

Is there any red pill info for me to digest that addresses this issue?


[–]fizzy1242 197 points198 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

the way i see it is that they wouldnt mind breaking my heart for a better deal so why should i

[–]hoopingblob 49 points50 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

This. It's either you or her and OP can bet his ass she won't hesitate to take an upgrade.

[–]HeskeeyTime 3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

but what if she would?

[–]Revere_Tha_MC 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My nigga the last thing you want is for a woman to be with you out of pity. They will lose respect for you real quick.

[–]kabuto_mushi 28 points29 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

but what if she would?

AWALT brother. They all would

[–]Truedemocracy5 41 points42 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Met a girl at work who instantly clicked with, the kind that you feel you knew for years just because your personalities are so similar. I date and sleep with a good number of women - so is rare when I get feelings towards one.

Dated her for a bit until she left me for an older guy at the company who had a better job title.

Funny thing is they dated each other for a bit until she left him for an even older guy who had an even better job title. All same office too lmao

Yea. AWALT. Learn and move on

[–]mickenrorty 23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s some Russian doll shit

[–]Livecrazyjoe 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That happens often. But like they say don't shit where you eat.

[–]Truedemocracy5 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trust me brother I always abide by that rule, and have turned down many women at work. Thought this one was special, but it’s good to get reminded on red pill principles from time to time

Learned that lesson with experience

[–]mickenrorty 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, I’ve met women that were extremely principled on this due to upbringing and circumstance... but in a classic case of irony I’ve never felt reciprocal connection/attraction to them...

[–]empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go test it out.

[–]tygacoffee2020 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy Link

I notice Women tend to guilt trip you and make you feel like a shitty person but then I realise the same, they wouldn't give it a second thought.

[–]PickUpScientist 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

not only that, it will be your fault, regardless of the circumstances. she will be considered a hero, and you a villain. should you not react, you never cared about her to begin with. should you react in any way, "bullet dodged"

[–]tygacoffee2020 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

It makes me laugh how Women REFUSE to take any responsibility for anything, is it an ego thing?

[–]wtfdoiaskfor1 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's collective ego. You can't be wrong if 20 other women are telling you how much of an idiot your ex was. (remember, they are all playing the same hypergamy game)

[–]tygacoffee2020 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

I wish I had Friends that would massage my ego lol

[–]wtfdoiaskfor1 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Easy:

  1. Don't be a man
  2. Be a woman
  3. ???
  4. Profit!

Or gay with female friends, I guess.

[–]tygacoffee2020 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think the reason why Women can't handle breakups or rejection well is because their friends have built this hyperinflated ego bubble that they are perfect (like you said, collective ego).

[–]wtfdoiaskfor1 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They can handle breakups, they just can't handle assuming they fucked up.

[–]PickUpScientist 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

they are soft because they are allowed to be. if a man is a feral cat, a woman is a house cat (as is a beta).

[–]RabbidMan 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

EXACTLY

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We're not women. We arent hypergamoust, we are polygamous. Find a more attractive partner doesnt require deserting the one you already have.

[–]_DinViesel_ 55 points56 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You don't understand that women aren't really that fickle and a lot of them actually have thick skin, if she is lower SMV then she knows that you can essentially leave her and will do anything to keep you, if you somehow make a high SMV girl go mad, then I hope you have car insurance

[–]kray67 29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The way I see it, as long as you're not intentionally harming these girls, you gotta do what's best for you. If ending things is what you want/need, go ahead and do it. Lord knows they will at the drop of a hat..

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 49 points50 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Is there any red pill info for me to digest that addresses this issue?

Dude, women have it fucking easy when it comes to sex and relationships. Fucking EASY. Endless orbiters, gifts, meals, offers of sex, men paying for her time just in the hope of dating her. Even without prostitution women have everything thrown at them while they sit back, pick and choose, and if that doesn't work they flirt and mislead in order to get more resources and more attention.

She doesn't need you. It's arrogant and ego-centric to think you matter that much.

Don't worry about her, she's got a billion more men out there willing to date her and pay her for the privilege. You do you.

And as someone else said: women have ZERO sympathy for men. When a woman loses attraction she's done and that's that. The guy is lucky if he's even told she's checked out - which she does without mercy or hesitation.

[–]DownBy15TDGoFor2[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's arrogant and ego-centric to think you matter that much.

Haha true...thanks for the wakeup call

[–]wtfdoiaskfor1 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

women have ZERO sympathy for men

This is a hard pill to swallow, but it's 100% true. They don't have any sympathy for men, at all, like, none, zero, nada. You're supposed to be the strong one, so why care about you? "Who'll care about this poor little girl that I am?"

[–]krunchtimer 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Good reply. Would it be correct to say that women are designed by evolution to be able to move on quickly after being rejected by a man?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Would it be correct to say that women are designed by evolution to be able to move on quickly after being rejected by a man?

Yes.

There's a big evolutionary factor here: If you've been fucking for a while, there's a good chance she's carrying your kid.

Women have no such problem: so long as she has resources coming in, the man himself is no longer a factor in her offspring's success.

Of course this relies on her being in a secure financial position.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. That's an easy way to misunderstand evolution.

[–]sebastianconcept 20 points21 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I can relate a little bit. Not for any plate and not because I was crushed by any previous relationship, but because I’m not cruel. Specially if the girl is a good person, hot, consistently behaves well, feminine and submissive and keeping high desire for you

[–]Qba1994 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

So why would you want to leave her? Have you got so many options available for you..?

[–]sebastianconcept 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

That’s the thing. I wasn’t searching for an LTR, I was planning on staying single and rotating plates. But this girl is doing great, so I have no choice but to promote her. She doesn’t break balls or try to control. She doesn’t talk too much, can you believe that? She doesn’t pressure me (for 8 months now), I wasn’t expecting that hahaha.

I do have many options but I’ve stopped calling other plates.

If this ends, I can easily activate 4 or 5 plates or prospect several new ones

[–]DarkJayBR 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn bro, it's like winning in the lottery. This type of women is rare.

[–]Fulp_Piction 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The quid pro quo arguments are rationalising this issue.

I can hurt this specific girl because on average girls are dicks wahey!

That doesn't really help, you just have to get comfortable with putting yourself first, you sound like you have issues with people thinking you're selfish or something. You have to let that go. You have wants and needs that are just as valid as anyone elses, and they're up to you to look after. No mama no more, you're a big boy.

You'll be glad you guys broke up sooner rather than later, and what girl wants a guy who would compromise who he is to keep her from getting upset. Thats a faggot move.

[–]DownBy15TDGoFor2[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man - this is the best comment I've read so far. It's true that "women are bad though" doesn't work on me as an argument. I need to realize I have a right to live my life the way I want to live it. Not only do I have the right but it's a virtue.

[–][deleted] 58 points59 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

While I understand what you mean, I can literally feel women of the world laughing at you. Women don't get their heart broken and mope about, they move on or they take action, sometimes positive, mostly negative. I assure you from the bottom of my heart no matter how it seems in the moment, she's either over it or preparing to get you back.

[–]gaygaygayno 18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

OP’s fooling himself if he doesn’t have at least 10 other men lined up after her

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've realised I'm getting upvotes for all the wrong reasons.

[–]NeedRealityShock 18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Keep in mind you are making her no favour by staying either. She also has the right to know if you don't like her that much.

[–]BackOnGameJP 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That. I made the mistake of accepting a relationship with a fuck buddy with low SVM to give her a chance and stayed way too long with her, accepted way too much crap behavior from her part. I started feeling guilty for just liking her instead of loving her and for all the things she did to keep me.

[–]1XXXMersenne 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

you're Projecting your wounds from your own rejection experiences.

Once you get it in your head that it really doesn't matter and the whole game is to meet a bunch of people and opportunities in order to see if there's an energetic match you'll be fine.

You'll realize: "I wasn't right for that person/opportunity before because I was still needy, dependent. I need them more than they needed me so it wouldn't have lasted long anyways. But now that I got my shit together somemore I can meet that person/opportunity again and feel totally comfortable, or even better, totally above it because I've become more independent now."

Once you have that down there'll be no problem "rejecting" people, because you understand it's nothing to do with their "value as a person" but more to the tone of it being ridiculous for you to be together. Imagine if you were to partner up with a celebrity supermodel. Joke right. Because you're a soft bitch & probably don't read or lift. So it's the same for them: You don't hate them but it'd be stupidly inauthentic for things to go beyond a certain point.

[–]DownBy15TDGoFor2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am definitely projecting wounds you're right. Yeah you're right - rejecting someone isn't really doing anything to hurt them. It's actually helping them because you're staying in a relationship that's not a good match.

[–]ThePhenex 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just break up in a "soft" way if and dont hard next if you can sleep better that way. They will get over it/you pretty quick, no matter how much you think they like you.

[–]JamesBondsOldBrother 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

You have empathy you say...what about wasting her time that she could use to find someone that she isn’t unknowingly wasting her time with? Where is the compassion/empathy for that? You say empathy but it’s really an internal thing that you’re fighting. It has nothing to do with having true empathy for someone if you’re wasting their time for your comfort.

[–]DownBy15TDGoFor2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good point

[–]disciplinedFreedom 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you have the realization that she will be getting piped by some random dude shortly after the break up, you will not care. Was in a relationship for 3 years. After the breakup, was somewhat upset. Found out that she hooked up with some random guy within a month. Literally did not care and laughed when she called me months later asking to get back together

[–]Greek-God-Brody 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

She will forget about you fast.

Only way to really break her heart is to alpha-widow her

[–]Truedemocracy5 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I feel alpha widow is only possible in STRs or one night stands. In an LTR even if there’s an smv gap she will see you when you’re sick, beaten from a tough day, off your game, mustard on your shirt, etc whatever from time to time

The only girls I’ve alpha widowed are ones who probably built up an idealized version of me in their head.

[–]Thizzlebot 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

mustard on your shirt

Lol but true

[–]empatheticapathetic 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Convert your empathy to apathy.

[–]SupremeBBC 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol this

[–]RPthrowaway123 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel that empathetic pull too man. Truth is the other guys are right, she wouldn't hesitate. Don't do it to be a dick or anything like that if it has to be done. Do it because it's what best for you.

[–]Sintar07 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I 100% get this. I do this too. I don't know why after the fourth or fifth time I got burned, but I do. For what it's worth, given I can't follow the advice myself, everybody else is right; 99% of them won't give a shit about you or hurting you if things aren't going well.

[–]shouldergirdle 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

THE most important concept that we must all internalize here at The Red Pill is to put ourselves first, above all else. "I am living my own life. It is my happiness that is primary. I am responsible for me and only me. I do not live my life for others and I cannot mange nor be responsible for the thoughts and feelings of others."

The above, is an excellent real life example of what happens when you try to live your life for someone else. (scared to hurt someone's feelings). It just leads to misery and resentment. Makes you a bitter, unattractive, nice-guy loser.

Put yourself and your needs first. Do what you want/need regardless of the effect on others. This is the path to long term success and fulfillment.

This is FRAME.

Living for yourself, based on your own standards is attractive. People will be drawn to you. Men will want to be you, women will want to be with you.

[–]PreEntertain 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Their emotions are their responsibilities. If they are investing that much emotional value into you, then they can only blame themselves for how they feel when you fuck off.

But they will blame you, and you have to be man enough to turn away from it, or to explain to her why I just explained to you.

[–]Don_Draper27 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The way I see it is that you're doing the other person a favor by being honest in telling them that things aren't working out or that you aren't interested in them. It's a favor because this gives them ability to use their time and energy on pursuing someone else who might be better aligned with them.

Same goes for you. If you're in a bad relationship, you're doing both you and them a favor because you're acknowledging the fact that you guys aren't vibing anymore and should now move on to pursue someone better suited. It's up to the individual to make the right steps toward a happier life and it's not your responsibility when some people don't.

To add to this, I've felt the guilt of dumping someone in the past. I broke up with an LTR of 5 years. She didn't do anything nuclear but I realized that she had too many pink flags and I was beta for most of the relationship and I wanted to try this plate-spinning thing. She cried a lot. Left make-up and tear stains on my shirt. She begged me for another chance. Even after I officially dumped her she would still message me saying she'd wait for me to change my mind. I felt like a complete dickhead and a selfish prick for hurting someone like that who I really cared about but I stuck to my guns and went no contact.

What followed from here is what made me realize that girls don't handle breakups like guys. Guys feel a break-up for months, maybe even up to a year. It's a pocket sized black hole in your chest that adds an inconvenient amount of weight on yourself until it slowly fades away. For women though, they'll feel it HARD at first. It'll fry their circuits. Their hamster will be sprinting and they'll start doing bat shit crazy things like stalk you or get themselves in questionable situations. The thing is though that women are resourceful. After only a few hours you can definitely expect them to start replying to the dozens of unread DM's from orbiters. They'll fire up Tinder. They'll text their exes and even contact their friends exes (pre-selection & bat-shit crazy don't mix well).

Anyways, after a few weeks I saw a few times on some friends stories that she'd be out at parties and she'd always be chilling next to that guy she'd tell me not to worry about. This dude that I'd go to the gym with and I thought was a good buddy to us. I didn't care much but still made a mental note about it. A year later after spinning plates and learning lessons, I met this girl who I began getting serious with. I started posting pics of us on social media and lo' and behold, the ex followed by posting pictures of her and the guy she'd tell me not to worry about in an obvious romantic relationship manner. I had a bad taste in my mouth at first. Mainly because I had thoughts that maybe she'd already been talking to the dude while we were together but I really don't care now and I'm happy for them honestly, BUT, I realized that even though the ex begged me for another chance and messaged me after letting me know she was still there.. she branch swung pretty quickly and she didn't swing too far. A shoulder to cry on is a dick to ride on.

In conclusion, don't do the mistake of underestimating a women's resources. Always expect any girl to have the CC in her back pocket and an abundance of dick only a Tinder swipe away.

[–]ToraChan23 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you start to learn that YOUR happiness is paramount, and that anything (within legal/moral bounds) that gets in the way of that has to go, this will no longer be a problem.

Your happiness is more important than a stranger's (who is making you unhappy) feelings.

[–]ASAP_IKER 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"men and women handle breakups differently, but that quite often (in heterosexual relationships, at least) the man has a more difficult time coping"

https://www.nbcnews.com/better/health/why-men-may-make-take-longer-get-over-their-exes-ncna799791

[–]DownBy15TDGoFor2[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Very interesting - it seems to suggest that the main factor is that women have someone to talk to and it's not taboo whereas men have to move on by themselves. It actually makes some sense but it's not always that men don't have anybody to talk to and women do.

[–]30dirtyfingers 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's also a major blow to our confidence, which is the very thing we use to talk to women or do most things. Kinda hard to move on when that part of you is shattered, hell, your not even yourself without it.

[–]Speedracer1111 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy Link

Lightswitch effect

(Re)read up on it.

It's crazy scary when you see that in action.

[–]DownBy15TDGoFor2[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for this

[–]Speedracer1111 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

I probably will be downvoted due to the moral ambiguity of this advice, way too many white knights and not fully converted red pillers here.

Plate a married woman.

In my case, she was a mail order bride with no kids looking to branch swing. Doubt I would be able to do the full package of a woman married to her high school sweetheart with 3 kids, etc. I don't judge though.

Point being, I literally called her a toy (different language, but same translation) and once she realized she couldn't branch swing, she would openly call/text her husband after we got done fucking saying she loves him and when she would be home. 5 seconds after that she would be telling me she loves me. It was hilarious and mind opening.

Slightly off topic, but think its good learning for you, I had her do stuff that I thought only hard core pornstars would do. Easy enough, since I didn't care about her, literally treated her like a sextoy. Then I started confidently doing those things with the other girls I was seeing and realized all women do it. After that, I found TRP. Needed answers to so many questions, primarily why society says be a gentleman and not an asshole, but being an asshole gets you laid like a pornstar.

On a side note, doing this does not make you an asshole. it releases the machismo and lets you be a man. Calling these people assholes, is women/society's way to shame men. (the women are upset they couldn't lock the "asshole" down and the "gentlemen" are upset because the "assholes" are fucking their women.)

[–]SuperiorDong 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just wondering from someone who is 27 has a 150 count, what is the end goal? To fuck around with as many women and hope you don’t get an std or some other issue because you want to occupy your time/pleasure? I’ve gotten to the point where it seems like whats the point. Its like an endless pit of money and time gone down the drain. I just don’t know what else is there to do and I don’t want to be stuck alone either. I feel like I’m just going through the motions.

[–]Alzatorus 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I need to find me a married woman 😂🙌🏻

[–]krunchtimer 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Also thanks for this too. When you google it, the first result points to a post in forums.red (not sure if it's OK to link to it here)

It's important to always remember that men think logically and women think emotionally. This is why women can do the lightswitch effect.

[–]Speedracer1111 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

If linking is allowed, I don't believe it is a problem, as that website is a pinned post. Believe it's primary purpose is for when/if reddit shuts down this subreddit.

[–]krunchtimer 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's the link

[–]Truedemocracy5 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That woman will cry for a day, maybe a week, before slutting it up again and finding a new dick to get attached to in less than a month. Girls take the news much worse than guys often up front, but they forget about you much quickly.

[–]kode20 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can relate so hard to this man

[–]warthundersfw 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Super easy. When a woman gets slighted, she'll go with a guy to feel better, even if he's an orbiter or some low quality dude. I've seen chicks at clubs that I ignore and they go talk to the next guy very willing after I blow them off. They don't care about you, they'll get validation elsewhere and put out WAY EASIER than if you had pursued them initially. Fuck em dude, not wanting to break their hearts is a fool's errand on many levels

Why care about these bitches if they move on so fast you're worthless to them. You just are the best at the moment

[–]palsnotkcots 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I promise anything you can do to a girl she can do worse to you

[–]Ill_mumble_that[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had to break a girl's heart big time once.

We dated for almost 3 years. She thought I was the one. At first I could see myself being with her forever. She was super submissive, huge ass, tiny waist, big tits, perfect smile, let me take the lead, fulfilled all my kinks, never talked to other men, I mean it was just heaven on earth. She was a true unicorn, the kind of girl that everyone here wishes existed. And this is with hindsight I'm saying this. She really was the prefect unicorn woman. The only thing we didn't do together was cohabitate, at the time I was in school and living in a small apartment with a roommate and she was living with a female roommate about 20 minutes away.

But over 2 years she gained... it must have been 100 lbs. She blew up like a balloon. I tried to give her a chance to lose it, but after 6 months it was clear it wasn't going to happen anytime soon. Then I found out she had blood pressure issues and a few other other chronic health problems, none of them contagious, just annoying.

I couldn't picture myself waking up to that every day. I had to leave. It broke my heart, and hers. But I just wasn't attracted to her anymore. And that is how I learned that attraction can't be negotiated. Granted I could have probably got her to bring some hotter girls home for 3somes, but I feel that would have hurt her even more in the long run.

[–]2319Skew 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right this very second an infant somewhere in the world is dying in its mother's arms.

If you are even slightly empathetic you'll feel bad about that fact.

In a few moments, you'll forget about that fact and move on with your day.

A woman is the same way.

Your ego is the only thing that makes you think that you matter to her. You could save her life and she'd still leave you on a whim and hamster a reason why you made her do it.

Don't waste time feeling bad about it.

[–]bradtwo 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude: Honestly, you're empathetic towards the emotional investment of another human. That is an amazing trait to have! Yes, it sucks for you, because you feel bad.

But those of you who are telling you to be "cold hearted, that she is fucking someone else..." or whatever reason they have had in their past relationships to make them who they are... tell those people to fuck off.

I am sorry that you feel this way. Deep in your heart you know you're not best for them or right for them, because they are not right for you. People deserve to be with someone who wants them as much as they want them. And if you cannot give that to the person, then that is that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I struggle with empathy too

[–]RPMarch 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no spoon

[–]RileysRevenge 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just don’t lie to them about what you want in a relationship. Start things off from the beginning being openly candid about the fact that you’re not sure if you want a LTR and even if you do, love is not something you do easily.

That’s always worked for me anyways.

[–]Senior Endorsedmax_peenor 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just make it swift, blinding and irrevocable. Women agonize over a breakup when it is happening or they think it is just a bump in the road and things will get back together. Once they see that it truly over, they move on very quickly.

[–]cracksniffer666 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Had this problem, and I just got drunk, and did it last night.

She BLEW UP, but I got some stupid apology text this morning..

I know that feeling, and it feels like you're trapped. I'm sure this isn't the end for me...

[–]Spaghetti1776 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you didn’t pop her cherry then she’s been through this before, she didn’t save herself for you so it’s not really your problem since she doesn’t belong to you anyway.

[–]InformedVase23 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

step 1: increase testosterone

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What? Unless they're crazy or something, why would you reject women in the first place?

[–]lookoutitscaleb 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

One thing that I used is and have told people that have said I was mean for breaking her heart.

It isn't fair for me to keep her when she could be spending her time finding someone who loves her as much as she loves me/ deserves to be loved, etc...

Put your own spin on it however you need to validate it in your head. Basically you're both wasting time. You're hurting her more not letting her find someone else, imprisoning her in a fantasy world you will never be part of.

[–]ArnoldT1000 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Recognize she would drop you in an instant. A woman’s attracted to your power, not you.

Read the Illimitable Man Maxims.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Remember female solipsism and their hypergamous imperative. Women don't "love us" as we understand love. Their highest form of "love" for us would be closer to "adoration" born of respect.

You are projecting your own fears of heartbreak onto this chick who has a brain that doesn't process the world in the same way.

Sure, heartbreak is real for both people, but women tend to shake it off much sooner because it is so easy to pick up the next AFC.

For women, their tears are often most associated from losing another chance to find a guy to be father to her kids or the man they hoped would be their beta male provider

I think men take love and loyalty much more seriously than women. This is why we die for our brothers on battlefields.

If you make the mistake of getting married, wait until a a likely divorce a few years down the line to see the woman you thought loved you turn into THOT who only cares about herself, maybe even trying to alienate you from your own kids to get what she wants.

[–]skunkbear444 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only spend time with women you can see a future with. You aren't the "she's only for sex type" kind of emotionally colder player. That type of guy can enjoy and want the sex and not care for the company of the woman or really anything about her because sex is that important to him. That guy will naturally set up a dynamic where there is no false signals to the girl. She understands what the deal is.

You get tied up with how a girl feels. Stick to girls you actually want something with. You are not built for catch and release when it comes to women. I strongly believe being a take it or leave it sex guy is inborn or not.

[–]genital-love 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

bitches aint shit bro see more girls

[–]BlackMisc -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

you probably have a single mum household childhood OP

[–]DownBy15TDGoFor2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No my parents are still together - a very traditional marriage.

[–]PreEntertain 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think ya got that one backwards, bub.

[–]DarkJayBR -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't worry about her. Women always have multiple partner options, ALWAYS. They snap their fingers and 20 betas appear to validate her. She'll cry for a few weeks over the breakup (Depending on how long you've been together), but soon she'll be at other parties riding eight-inch dick without hesitation. I'm telling you this because I've seen it happen so often in my social circle that I've gotten used to. A girl in my college cried for a week, saying that she wanted to die when her boyfriend broke up with her to pursue a career in UK, two weeks later, she was giving a blowjob to his best friend behind college.

90% of women outside your family don't give a damn about you. They will break up with you as soon as a better option shows up. And some humiliate men after the breakup, spreading rumors that you are gay, that you have a small penis, that you have erectile dysfunction. If they don't pity you, why would you pity them?

You should only feel bad when YOU fucked up the relationship (Cheating, etc) with the 10% of women who DO give a fuck about you.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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