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Never eat where you shit is my key principle to happiness . In my blue pill days I’ve always made that mistake and I’ve learned from it . I don’t talk to any women not only where I work but where I hang out and frequent. I’ve even come to realize you only want that girl at your job or school so much because you’re seeing how other guys react when they see her so her looks are always inflated by your ego . So with that mindset I’m in the gym focused 1 hour in and out No flirting with women . I usually met women at clubs, bars , daygame , tinder . This girl is always strategically placing her self in my vision . Doing lunges and squats in front of me , but she’s a typical gym thot looking for chad and Tyrone flirting and etc treating the gym like a nightclub . She kind of approached me but I was out of breath and focused I just brushed her off . Now a guy has told me that she’s been running around telling everyone I’m gay . And I don’t know how long she’s been saying this because I look back within around the last month and I’ve realized the gay guys being extra friendly . What should I do ?


[–]BPasFuck 1 points [recovered]  (68 children) | Copy Link

What u/PickUpScientist said.

If the gay bros or someone else brings it up, just tell them she's upset and spreading rumors. That you turned her down, because you heard she had herpes.

[–]PickUpScientist 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

you turned her down, because you heard she had herpes.

wisdom

[–]RPNorvell[M] 70 points71 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

None of this petty childish revenge fantasy butthurt frameless behavior is redpill at all. Go to your rooms and think about what you've done.

[–]brucethecatowner 1 points [recovered]  (29 children) | Copy Link

Lol thanks bro . I’m not into rumor spreading but if it gets worse and she doesn’t get over it. I’ll keep that one in my back pocket

[–]BPasFuck 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

Don't think of it as rumor spreading. If you're doing what you're supposed to do, focusing on the lifting, it'll never come up.

But, if someone happens to stop you and say 'sup, bro-- u gay?' You know how to handle it.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

The problem is that rumors don’t stay static. Broken window syndrome. If you are perceived to not be able to go on the offensive then additional rumors will be leveraged against you. You have to do something proactive to nip that before it escalates. This is a pretty common social dynamic I’m surprised at the response is here not factoring this in.

[–]AshyBoneVR4 22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Seriously though, what are the outcomes of some rumor going around saying OP is gay? At worse, he might have some random dudes walk up to him and start flirting with him. Who fuckin cares. People talk when they aren't happy with their own lives. There's literally nothing bad that can happen to OP because of some bitter bitch opening her fuckin mouth about him. Wear headphones, lift, leave. I don't understand how people talking about you behind your back can effect this.

[–]BPasFuck 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

You're not wrong. But, you also have to factor in the person you're giving advice to.

Something tells me this guy should not even try getting into a war of rumor with this chick. He'll get barbecued without even knowing how it happened.

Guys that aren't equipped for that shit, their best defense is their reputation and whatever perception of integrity they have.

So-- minding his business, and only bringing it up as a reply to other people quizzing him about it, is probably his best move.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

You definitely should only mind your business unless someone brings it up to you. Then drop the herpes line by all means. Don’t be a chivalrous white knight to someone who is hacking your reputation. People believe women these days on their word.

I don’t believe the suggestion above was to go around telling everybody she has herpes. Rather to be prepared to malign her subtly should someone confront OP.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (11 children) | Copy Link

because you can turn it around at that point right? nobody will question that you came up with the story far down the road after all the damage has been done to your reputation. Ok.

[–]Savior1666 156 points157 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Who gives a fuck about reputation at the gym?! Cmon dude, you're better than this.

The Gym is NOT for "Reputation" its for LIFTING.

The Gym is NOT for Picking up girls its for LIFTING.

The Gym is NOT for worrying about stupid shit its for LIFTING.

[–]lovesprite 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This right here is the winner

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

48 Laws of Power - law 5: So much depends on reputation, guard it with your life.

No, don’t just lift. Guard your reputation. Notice that that is not a passive law. If someone goes on a rumor crusade, then sure don’t be reactionary but, also be prepared to go on the offense. Fight back smartly, covertly, and without mercy. Or if rumor is added to rumor you may soon no longer be a welcome guest at that gym.

[–]AshyBoneVR4 12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Go look up Epictetus and some stoic readings.

Some things are up to us and some are not up to us. Our opinions, and our impulses, desires, aversions—in short, whatever is our own doing. Our bodies are not up to us, nor are our possessions, our reputations, or our public offices, or, that is, whatever is not our own doing. The things that are up to us are by nature free, unhindered, and unimpeded; the things that are not up to us are weak, enslaved, hindered, not our own…If you think that only what is yours is yours, and that what is not your own is…not your own, then no one will ever coerce you, no one will hinder you, you will blame no one, you will have no enemies, and no one will harm you, because you will not be harmed at all.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Awesome can I have your possessions and your public office since those things are not up to you?

In all serious, I am sticking with law 5 — guard or be dominated. It’s very simple. That is TRP.

[–]dickcomments 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I love this string - it's the wisdom of experience talking with the strong willed neophyte.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

Don't do that, speak to gym management instead. See my comment above for a more in-depth explaination.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

Squeaky wheel. You will be labeled a bitch a whiner and a troublemaker.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lol, this isn't grade school.

If the roles were reversed she would speak to management. Besides a woman who creates one rumour will create another. He needs to remove the threat and have the gym document that he was in the right.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

It kind of is. People don’t change so much from grade school. Social dynamics remain very similar. And yes you are right if the roles were reversed she would speak to management and they would listen to her ; don’t plan on that same reciprocation for a dude in the MeToo era. They’ll just shake their heads as he walks away. They will make a petty effort to ask around and find nothing and then he will be labeled a whiny bitch.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

No the adult world is not grade school. The mature reaction is not to trade insults, but to get her kicked out. This may be difficult for uni students to understand but no business will risk their reputation to support a person who spreads rumours about another person's sexuality.

Businesses don't fuck around with their reputation.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

What you don’t seem to perceive is that the business has no way to trace a comment that he is gay. They are not going to interrogate members and drive them away in the process. Additionally suggesting that someone is gay is not harassment like using the word faggot or lezbo etc., which the business would pursue. It is a he said she said situation, and in addition to being cuckolded with her comment he will also be seen as petty by management.

[–]jackandjill22 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've had this happen to me. Once in middle & again in high school. Learned some lessons after that shit.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (28 children) | Copy Link

No, that is petty, creates an enemy and leaves him open to retaliation.

He should speak to gym management and have the gay guys as witnesses that the woman is spreading lies about his sexuality. Then have gym management kick her out.

Next he should ask management to give him a letter stating that that woman has spread lies about him. He can use this letter in the future as protection should she choose to spread more lies about him to the police or anyone else.

[–]sehns 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure the gym management will just laugh about it and do nothing.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

No they won't. If news gets out about this it would be a pr nightmare and cause them massive reputation and possibly monetary loss.

In today's pc social media culture these type of things are taken seriously

[–]sehns 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Most gyms are full of corporate idiots. If OP is a straight white dude nothing will happen. Now to your point, if OP was gay, trans, or a woman and she was spreading rumours about him having HIV or something, then that would be a completely different scenario and you would be correct.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

I disagree with you, but just in case they were unwilling to take action, I would remind them that he has witnesses and that the gym will suffer a lose of reputation should they ignore this.

Ignoring the situation would be horrible business and will not happen.

In the unlikely event that nothing is down, op uses the power of social media to tell his story. He looks like the bigger man, and increase s his smv, and dispells the rumour. At that point the gym will attempt to restitution the situation too.

[–]bestCallEver 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is some of the most pathetic shit I've ever heard. "Mommy some girl called me a faaaaaagggg"

[–]kellykebab 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

Now that's gay

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Super gay, and it'll protect his ass from the second rumour that trouble maker starts too.

[–]kellykebab 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Jesus dude, if you seriously go to the manager and get lawyered up every time someone is rude to you, you're in for a really unnecessarily stressful life. Your advice promotes "Karen-esque" bitch behavior.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (13 children) | Copy Link

Jim management will label him a bitch, a whiny petty martyr. They arent going to do any fact-finding and there’s no proof. Somehow red pill on this forum has forgotten that going on the offensive is important when someone is attacking your reputation. Countering with the herpes line is a perfectly acceptable nuclear option. This is the MeToo era - you do nothing & those rumors can escalate when they see that you won’t fight back.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (12 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, for the reason I have previously mentioned.

He is going on the offensive and he is getting a company to record that he is in the right.

My solution is the adult solution. The insult the woman solution is some school yard immature bs, that the woman will spin to get the guy in teoublem

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (11 children) | Copy Link

You think the company is going to do adequate fact-finding because he told them a girl said he was gay? What they are going to pull all of the gym members aside and interview them, adding drama to a dozen people’s personal gym time? Dude that will never happen. That’s childish.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (10 children) | Copy Link

The herpes method is both not subtle and picking a fight with a woman. What do you think her reaction will be? She will go to management and get him kicked out. If not that she will start another rumour and take it to the police this time.

His only option is to get the gay to act as his witness and get the woman thrown out of the gym.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy Link

It’s not subtle if you go around proactively trying to tell people. It is perfectly acceptable and effective if someone confronts you and you mention it in your response. I swear this sub Reddit has become purple pill. You say “ picking a fight with a woman.” No she has engaged you in war. And she already has the upper hand in the MeToo era. Guard your reputation subtly but effectively, and fiercely if you can. You drop those fucking rumors were ever opportunity presents itself. The red pill is not a passive movement. It is not reactive, but it is neither passive. Someone comes laughing about something she said and you lay down the nuclear option with a subtle but effective rumor of your own. Otherwise go to the purple pill site. No chivalry toward toxic feminism here.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you understood my point, I suggested that he do take action against her. I'm the only one suggesting he take action.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy Link

I understood your point very well and our contention is not over whether to take action or not. Rather our contention is about which action is acceptable. And I maintain fighting with error lies misinformation and gossip is perfectly acceptable to crushing your enemy. Otherwise consider you might be a white knight.

[–]el_Technico 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

You won't win a insult/gossip war against a woman as she is overpowered by social standing and a natural at it by genetics.

I still content his only path to victory is building his case with witnesses to get her kicked out of the gym. Then having written proof from the gym protect s him from any further action or lies from the woman.

[–]BPasFuck 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

If he's there to lift, and not socialize, it'll never come up.

I gotta lol at your suggestion that he be a little suzy tattletale though.

He'd be better off ignoring the suggestion than taking your advice. But, maybe you live someone where that's good advice.

Where I come from, not so much.

[–]Greaterbird 66 points67 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's obvious. Reject a gay guy next and he'll go around telling everyone you're straight.

[–]JoeBuckYourslf 61 points62 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree and amplify.

Fog.

DNGAF.

Fuck her friend.

Next.

[–]IRunYourRiver 49 points50 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Start wearing shorts that say "not gay" on the ass.

[–]PickUpScientist 131 points132 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

you don't shit where you eat, so who cares what she says. just go there, lift, and leave. same as before.

[–]brucethecatowner[S] 50 points51 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly you’re right . Idk why I was expecting some alpha reaction as a answer. But the most Alpha thing would be to not care . I’m still working on that . I do still care about what others think about me

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

when you hit on the ladies her deceit will be apparent in flying colors. such a bad game plan on her part. it will only make the ladies feel safer around you initially too. wow. take advantage of it even.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed 129 points130 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you do anything about that?

Nope. Bitches gonna bitch.

So, who gives a shit?

Additionally, the gay boys haven't been especially friendly, it's confirmation bias.

You know when you get a new car, and it's like all of a sudden you see your model everywhere on the road? The traffic hasn't changed, your perception has.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez 59 points60 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Ignore. Seems like you don't care about any of the goings ons in the gym anyway right? So why start now? Besides, it's 2019. No one gives a shit if you're gay or not.

[–]brucethecatowner[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You’re right thanks . I do care about people’s opinion and I’ve been improving that

[–]ReformSociety 41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Care about the opinions of people who you respect and hold close to your heart.

Fuck the rest.

[–]iteal 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Positive side is probably some buffed gay dude helping you in the gym with spotting etc.

[–]liquorbaron 21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah gay is pretty low on the sjw victim card nowadays. You gotta be at least a half african american/half native american and trans if you want to gain victim status points among sjws.

[–]VaN__Darkholme 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We wuz women and shieet?

[–]frognads 23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

At the gym? Who gives a fuck, you're there to lift not make friends.

[–]skuttt 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don’t give a fuck. Surely this is even easier in the gym where you say you refuse to interact with anyone? You haven’t truly swallowed the pill until nobody and nothing can affect your emotional state.

[–]brucethecatowner[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks you’re 100% right . I’ve swallowed the pill once it comes to female nature and chasing your purpose, self improvement and etc but I still care about people’s opinion . I was extremely embarrassed to see that people thought I was gay . My only friend at the gym knew it wasn’t true and alerted me on the rumors and it’s still fucked with my head . I need to improve that

[–]liquorbaron 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this a middle school gym? This whole situation is something I would expect from kids that age. Lol.

[–]svenfromaccounting 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

you eat at the gym?

[–]menial_optimist 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

why are you even mad? she's unwittingly doing you a favor. If you say you don't pick up girls at the gym, she's helping you. So what if a couple roidheads think your gay? Who cares?

[–]Black_Jesup 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She did you a favor by providing preselection. Albeit to gay guys.

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS69 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing. People aren't dumb. The people worth respect will know a gossipy, rumour spreading bitch when they see one.

[–]Hungboy6969420 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This supposed to be a knock against you? Pretty sure in 2019 most people would think she's a cunt

[–]PB0034 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Never shit* not never eat where you shit lmao

[–]IrvineKafka 25 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Stop suckin' dicks. That'll show her.

[–]AscensionExperiments 30 points31 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Or START suckin' dicks. That would also show her

[–]VaN__Darkholme 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Show her who's the boss of this gym

[–]IrvineKafka 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely correct.

[–]hoopingblob 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So what? You said yourself you're just there to train. Since you're not going to pick up anyone there's no reason to be worried.

[–]idontevenlift37 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Typical slut who’s ego can’t handle rejection. Don’t give her any attention, simply continue grinding. If gay guys keep hitting on you be sure to tell them what’s up, but other than that who cares what the girl or her friends think about you.

[–]StolenSpirit 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of the days in middle school if you didn’t fit in or want to associate with a group of people and you ignored them they coined the term “gay” for you. Not going on defense only makes it worse especially denying it.

[–]sehns 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

So hot ass gym chick clearly wants to fuck you and you're coming to ask us for advice on how to help her stop spreading rumours? Get her digits, find out next time she's going out with her girlfriends, show up and fuck her friend, idiot.

[–]brucethecatowner[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She’s not hot she’s barely good looking but she has a fat ass and thinks she’s a dime

[–]How_To_Badass 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ignore and if someone asks, say what the Top coment here suggested. Do Not confront her directly and especially Not in a privat Area. Who knows what insane rumors she will Spread then. Im talking about #metoo

[–]red2hilt 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't get this post. If you're serious about don't shit where you eat, then you're happy if everyone there thinks you're gay, right? Is it spreading outside the gym?

As far as guys hitting on you, gay guys don't hit too hard on straight men (out of fear of violence), you're not going to get constant unwanted attention the way women do.

So I would say if you're serious about don't shit where you eat, then you should welcome the rumor/ambiguity. More space for you, less distractions.

Source: couple of years reading trp.

[–]failingtheturingtest 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Your overall reply is spot on, but this part is bullshit.

As far as guys hitting on you, gay guys don't hit too hard on straight men (out of fear of violence),

What rock do you live under? Gay men are super forward and aggressive about hitting on straight men in public places. You're a homophobe and fascist if you tell them to fuck off, let alone fight them.

[–]Tramzh 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

i bet u want bitches to throw a fit and punch u in the face when they reject you too dont u?

did u ever try ”nah sorry dude im into girls” and go on with your day realising you got complimented instead of defaulting to the idea of a fist fight(???) like he intended to slip his weiner inside you while u squatting but yes very alpha indeed being so damaged that you think everyones out to hurt you

[–]failingtheturingtest 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hope you got your virtue fix there. I did not suggest fighting them at all, I was replying to someone who said gay men aren't aggressive in hitting on men. It is false, they are.

The other commentor's reasoning was fear of being attacked. That is also bullshit, for the reasons I've outlined.

And no, I have literally never experienced a gay man stop hitting on me after saying "I'm into women". The goto response is usually a combination of "how do you know if you haven't tried", or "I could make you so much happier than any woman", or as previously pointed out, accusing you of being homophobic.

[–]red2hilt 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it's a location thing. Are you personally frequently harassed by gay men?

[–]agjrpsl 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Be like Trump. Deny and act like a middle school kid and makeup names for her.

[–]Pimpcool420 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Herpes Hailey is on a witch-hunt because she wants me, she really really wants me. Even if I was gay, which I'm not, I'd be the best gay at the gym, I'm very popular with the gays, they love me".

[–]furcryingoutloud 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

https://imgur.com/kCFdmPb

Say nothing, do nothing. Stay well above the fray.

[–]JurJur -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy just wants validation.

[–]Friendly-Casper -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop going to that gym. Start putting back money to buy your own weights and workout at home. If you need a spotter for anything, ask a friend or family member to come over. Problem solved.

[–]dadfrombrad -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lesson learned never reject a girl... ghost and move on.

Last time I rejected this slut acused me of raping her

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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