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I (26) have a long term plate (19) that I have known for almost 2 years, since she turned 18. We’ve always known each other to be noncommittal. We’re pretty honest about our sex life, never bothered me I quite enjoyed the honesty.

Since about august she has been wanting me to do more things with her and her friends “to show me off.” So far Ive turned down them all down because I really don’t want more with her so she jokes “i only hang with her if we bang”; true.

Recently she started seeing someone and is overtly obvious about it. Today while we were hanging, she mentioned their hook up yesterday, describing how she is so sore from banging for 3 hours. I joked its rude to stare at the clock, we laughed and headed to her place. We ate, smoked some weed, made out in the shower. On the bed I put on netflix, made out and escalated. I tried to escalating multiple times, each to increasing levels of resistance compared to the last. After 2 times she put on a night gown. On the 3rd, as I move my fingers down her body she snapped “my pussy is really sore from yesterday, it doesn’t want to be touched.”

That didn't sound too nice to me, in fact I found it insulting. I told her no worries and relax, we watched a bit more and I used my need to use the washroom as an opportunity to leave. As I was leaving she asked “wait now? Aren't you going to finish the show with me?’ to my “nah I gotta work at 6 am tom.” I left.

My assessment is this plate has cracked or is cracking. She’s not only trying to shit test me into orbit but did it in an insulting way. Ill only see her again if she reaches out to me with an invitation. What do you guys think?


[–]Spidinabus151 points152 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

She's way past due for breaking. Her telling you about the pussy being sore is virtue signalling, showing you she has a new man now that takes care of her needs. Her weaponizing the pussy by denying you sex is pure beta bait, testing if you'll cave and have a platonic sleepover, showing her your very own "boyfriend characteristics". You did the right thing by leaving. Definitely a next situation.

[–]locomotronn23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right on the money

[–]Popeman798 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Spot on, except for one detail: talking about your sore pussy is not what virtue signalling is..

[–]Sylvester_Sterone4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. No 26 year old man got time for this bullshit.

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great response.

[–][deleted] 94 points95 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

a chick telling you her pussy's sore from being smashed by some other dude's donger, is not only disrespectful, it's downright deplorable. She's a dumpster.

Good riddance.

[–]dontbeanasshole7773 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well...she won't be telling that to the next guy that's for sure. Politically, very bad move for her, on other hand at least she told him as it is.

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol agree.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Personally, I would see that as massive disrespect that would lead to a hard next. I have very little tolerance for talking about other guys, and would never listen to a chick talk about another dude fucking her. I would have set up different parameters with her and never have been that open about sex talk, unless she was interested in my sex life (then I wouldn’t give a fuck as it gives her dread).

I’m also young and I have a lot to learn. I’ve had plenty of opportunities shatter because I was too firm. I do know however that I would be super turned off if the girl I was about to finger told me she was sore from being gorilla fucked by her other man. Might just be me tho

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[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya, actually going back and seeing that you are mid 20’s and she is late teens I would recommend you soft next. She probably trying to show off, she’s stupid as fuck and doesn’t know what she’s doing so I’d just soft next her until (if) she’s ready to be totally submissive and you can change the parameters.

[–]dontbeanasshole7771 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Seems she outgrew you :)

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[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

[–]PinacoladaSauce0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it just ran it’s course man. Two years of good fucking is pretty incredible for a plate. If I had to guess she got feelings and wanted you as a boyfriend and started acting to make you jealous. Obv everything I know is just from your post but that’s how it sounds. It seems you’ve got a good head on you bout how to handle it. You don’t need it but, kudos

[–]muricanwerewolf11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feelings for sure, "I want to show you off" is indicative of possessivness, and the blatant disrespect is both an expression of her anger at the situation and her hamster blowing up the situation so she can feel like he made the choice.

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yea, you can be too firm. Girls prefer dudes who don't take themselves too seriously. You can still have boundaries without being an asshole about them. Seems like OP & his plate bad a dynamic that kindve worked as they were pretty open about the way things were. It's hard to say whether or not handling them harshly was the way to go.

[–]muricanwerewolf12 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lol you're gonna have a tough time if you think her telling him she got too blown out for sex isn't an expression of aggression. That's a nuclear shit test.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying she wasn't being a bitch. I'm just saying there are different responses here other than being an Ego driven prick.

[–]muricanwerewolf1-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Eh. it's real easy to be monk mode on the internet.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude. I a really hot chick I was dating. Was lying about everything. Her job. Other dudes she was fucking. As long as I was getting laid I let it slide. But she kept pushing for commitment even though she was low-key doing this shady shit. She didn't know I knew & I hinted I was aware & things weren't going anywhere unless she correct her behaviors. She crossed the line that was the final straw. I unleashed living hell. Sued her for damages, had photos/videos of her slutting it up. She had a complete meltdown.

I warned her & let things stay cool several times. She was just stubborn AF. Sometimes you have to look at the context of the situation & play it right. You stand to benefit more by analyzing the situation.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't be able to stay any second longer with her after she said that.

[–]Friendly-Casper13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I love reading stuff like this. It's the very thing so many women (especially here on reddit) absolutely hate getting put on blast. They have some rotten shit tests that frankly, have gotten way out of control over the last few decades. That girl would have likely ended up cheating on you if you fell for that. Not something you want to experience. Find another plate as others have already pointed out.

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[–]Friendly-Casper0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are 4 levels to any relationship and she was trying to demote him to an orbiter with the above behavior. That IS disrespectful, you don't like that? Go read the side bar, plenty of information there. Look through the comment section, you'll find others have already mentioned this consistently. She likely has another branch she wants to swing from and keep him around if it breaks as a backup/emotional support.

[–]Spartan532620 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Bro I went through almost the same exact thing, except It was a 6 month plate and I didn’t leave after she denied all my attempts, I fell asleep and cuddled with her... Big mistake. It was total beta behavior. After that night I was pissed, I felt like she was trying to make me jealous cause I didn’t want a relationship so I didn’t hit her up for the next 2 weeks and when we finally did meet up again, there was more disrespect. Lesson learned. Let her go. Props to you for leaving that night.

[–]inrgiure1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What if she had let you sleep with her, would you have ignored it?

[–]dontbeanasshole7770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I want to know too!

[–]LethalShade0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems fine to me. If she submits to you(fucks) she's still in your frame. Gotta have empathy and realize girls are just human beings and it's fine to want something more.

If you're not open to that, of course hold your boundary. She'll either go along with it(fuck you) or try to get you in her frame (like the OP) then it's time to bid her farewell.

[–]1Red_Pill_Brotherhood7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck that, Id hard next. Thats some next level disrespect and she is cucking you in essence. Ghost her.

[–]masterpiece007 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not going for her ass in this situation...

[–]uptimex9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Sore" yeah right. "We have had the best sex I have ever had in my life", "He was so good in bed, sexual tension was like tornado between us" and juicy details like that. She just checks out your reaction, as soon as you show, you are comparing yourself with that guy, you are lost. You must behave like you are the only alfa and you don't care what she does with anyone else. In these kind of cases I yawn and show that I am bored of this conversation, when are we going to fuck?

[–]LethalShade2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's the frame to have. If you get trigerred, you lose. If you fall for her frame shift and have a cuddle party with her, you mega lose.

[–]BurnieSlander8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

All these anger phase bros talking about how disrespectful this chick is are failing to recognize that this type of honesty is extremely rare and is actually pretty refreshing to hear. Most plates would be doing the exact same thing- they just wouldn’t tell you about it. She’s saving you tons of time and bullshit by being 100% upfront.

Don’t be butthurt- just wish her well and she’ll probably boomerang at some point. Enjoy it for what it is and don’t be a self righteous retard crying about disrespect. Honesty is respect and it sounds like she’s always given you that.

[–]MOSFETBJT1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, this. Seriously. She's just putting it on a plate.

Just keep it amicable. You said you're young but I think you did a good thing by not exploding on her.

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[–]BurnieSlander-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She told you her vag was sore before any of that happened. Not her fault you wanted to bang her beat up puss. Get checked for autism cause you kinda suck at picking up on social cues.

[–]2319Skew5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well done. Time to move on

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup, go try out a new plate.. and enjoy the rest of your plates while you're at it..

Good decision

[–]SoulRedemption3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You sure the other "dude" ain't a ghost? Either way, you know the next move

[–]masterpiece000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Either way he is a hung ghost and OP is not.

[–]pyth0ns1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow... never thought I'd do this but am taking the womans 'side' here...

All of you HOUNDING disrespect...
" We’ve always known each other to be noncommittal. We’re pretty honest about our sex life, never bothered me I quite enjoyed the honesty. "
Straight from OP mouth...

SHE believed SHE could talk about these things with OP.
HE NEVER SET boundaries.

how is this disrespect?

This is OP thinking he is a king dick but realized he is a little bitch in getting all butt hurt that a girl he never set boundaries with, just gof f**ked roar by a truer alpha!

That said...
I'd definitely be nexting her and only talking to her if/when she inevitably texts me drunk for a hookup...

I wouldn't be looking at it as disrespect or being butt hurt that another dude banged a girl you never set boundaries with!

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[–]muricanwerewolf10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You've reminded me of my longest LTR, who last time we spoke she invited me over cuz her BF was out of town and someone had attempted to burglarize her car or something the night before and she was "scared". This woman, who had cheated on me multiple times, actually told me as I slid into bed and made a move "I don't cheat on my boyfriend".

This bitch actually pulled me out of bed after midnight to fuckin power play me haha. Incredible.

[–]AshyBoneVR41 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should feel insulted by her bull shit. If anything, you should realize that you've put her on a pedestal. Thinking she wouldn't engage in normal female behavior such as shit testing was your first mistake. The whole situation is a massive shit test to pressure you into commitment. Next time you see her, or she texts you inviting you to go over, tell her you don't mess with girls in relationships, or you're busy and only have time if she wants to fuck. Anything along those lines. She'll either keep trying to fuck you and the "dude she's talking to will fade away" or she'll leave you alone. Win/win situation for you.

But if she keeps this shit up, yeah, drop her.

[–]kabuto_mushi0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Man, it's shit like this about this sub and TRP in general that just blows me. Nothing about this was just "testing" you. She really did get dicked down by some other dude the night before, and you're still IDGAF, escalate anyway. That's fucking gross as shit! I would not put my mouth or far less my genitals anywhere NEAR that, do you want a disease?

[–]Garathon2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Kind of hypocritical to have multiple plates yet expect fidelity...

[–]redditispathetic1231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Life ain't fair and the genders aren't equal

[–]muricanwerewolf10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're gonna have to get over that disgust if you're gonna make it here. I know very few women who are angels. The girl you meet, who you're having those bluepill fantasies about how you met her three months after her breakup with her last boyfriend and she’s been pure and just happy being single, well she fucked a guy from tinder while she's making you wait until the third date. Your last short term relationship, the girl who was very conventional in bed, once got fucked and jizzed on by two guys at once back in her "wild and crazy" days when she wasn't trying to lock down a provider. Shit, the last girl I fucked was because the dude she was fucking was hanging out with his girlfriend, and she was just looking for a dick to ride. She had just broken up with her LTR a couple weeks before. For people who are fucking, this is what's happening.

Welcome to the fuckin jungle.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah buddy!

You did good getting up and leaving with the old "sex refusal" shit test. I liked how you didn't beg for sex or didn't just lay there validating her bullshit.

Find some new pretty young things.

No worries... this girl will hit you back up in the future once she gets bored. When she does... punish her with a butt plug while softly yanking on the necktie around her throat.

[–]LordFlakkko0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I feel like im missing something? Every time a woman doesn't want to have sex its a capital offense to the highest order?

[–]muricanwerewolf10 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're missing the point where she explained it was because the pussy got pounded out the night before. Not wanting to have sex is fine, so why did she have the OP come over? They're not dating. She had him come over just for the purpose of giving him the news there's some other guy filling that need.

[–]LordFlakkko0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahh that makes more sense

[–]Metrack0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Disrespect or not plating girl for 2 years is way above average so I would not hard next her but wish her good luck in some cocky way and end things on good term cuz she proved to be thicc plate tho.

[–]Kabuki431-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Byeeee bitch, her time's up with you. She's basically trying to put you in backup.

Oh and its super disrespectful, if u wanna be petty, have a 3sum and let her know you are super tired from last night.

[–]RivenHalf-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"So far Ive turned down them all down because I really don’t want more with her"

Yet you cared enough to ask about about her after she practically cucked you...

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[–]northernCAgrown0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That dude has never had a plate.

[–]Bluedog5x5-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes it is.

[–]sebastianconcept-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus next!

[–]mickenrorty-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Plate time is up. New dick is in action. Move on.

Shes not yours, its just your turn.

AWALT.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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