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My brother (27M) with his girlfriend (25F) been dating about six months. He brought her home for thanksgiving and she’s a really sweet girl, I’m happy for them.

The problem is, he is SO beta and does everything he can to please her. Asks her once an hour if he can get her anything to drink, anything to eat, “oh you don’t want anything, are you sure?” Asks her if she needs his sweater, etc. I’m curious if I should say something to him, and if so, how would I even approach the situation?


[–]a5920141 points142 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Be mindful of how you approach him with this. People who don't want to be helped will resist and ignore advice. When I was blue pilled, I disregarded everything my brother and father were trying to tell me as PUA nonsense and I would never treat a woman like that blah blah blah. They were only pushing me even further into the blue pill. Then I read the Rational Male and that turned everything upside down, and I realized what they were saying was right. My recommendation is to give him the Rational Male and try to convince him to read it. Tell him it's about gender relations and will help him maintain his relationship or something. Maybe give it as an early Christmas present.

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[–]SoulRedemption4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would not go down the path of book recommendation. You should start having convos to get info little by little to see if there is something that he finds "annoying", want to "fix" or that could be "better" in the relationship.

Mind you, if he is really blue pilled he would not want to say anything even if he is going through it. So it may take a bit of time.

If you feel there are things he seem to be unhappy about but does not talk about it, you can covertly, and very gently mention similar situations that happened to you and how you felt. At this point, may be not quite talk about how you handled it in a "red pilled" manner.

This is, one, an attempt to let him know you've gone through it, two, gives him the chance to open up himself.

Be very cautious when you are trying to help, since he is your brother, as you know things can backfire hard.

As a last note, you know already, do not talk about the Fight Club.

Edit:Spellings

[–]a59208 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh, you're brothers, at worst you'll just appear annoying to him. A book recommendation never worked for me. I'd say I'd look into it but never did (I mean until I did after constant reminders and convincing). If you give him the physical book, or send him an email with the PDF, then he will have no excuse not to at least look at it. Maybe bring the book up from time to time. The first step is the hardest. You can help him with that by putting the red pill directly in his hands rather than telling him to go get it.

[–]dzkkne2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think you should do anything atm. You have to wait until he gets in to a bit of trouble, so watch out for the moment. When his relationship starts to get rocky because of him over pursuing- take him out, have nice time with him. Do some bro activities and feed a bit of red pill truths. He needs to stumble first to realise that what he does doesn’t work.

You don’t really know how long this BP phase lasts in their relationship.ay be the girl is really in to him right now and really enjoys all the attention. If you tell him something it might backfire, because they both really into this kind of dynamic. So what you say won’t make sense at all. Think about it..

[–]puddingside1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Which one did you read? Positive Masculinity or Preventive Medecine? How long of a read is it?

[–]a59201 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I read the Rationale Male, it’s about 200 pages. Pretty quick read, though it takes time to digest all the information.

[–]isitmorphingtime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the better approach for sure

Without being too specific, I would say whatever you want to use to help him, it's about the way you frame it, he is clearly invested in making it work (the wrong way but we were all blue once)

So frame whatever you think will help as a tool for helping him keep her sweet....because that's exactly what it is....the pills that come with the content are up to him to swallow, you cant make him get it, but as far as getting the tools to him, you did your bit

[–]thatguyhanzel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right, some channel on YouTube called "Charisma on command" explained how Joe Rogan told is friend Brendan Schaub (a fighter) that he's just not good enough. He told him in the most sincere way that Brendan understood.

[–]rizzyfromthe980 points81 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Save him, that’s what brothers are for

Esp before he gets a ring next month

[–]PM_Happy_Puppy_Pics30 points31 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Guys like this probably need to learn the hard way. It is how most of us became red-pilled. He will do his best to bend over backward for his "nice girl" who then loses respect for him and cheats on him and then asks for him back. At that point, your bro needs to learn to respect himself more than he respects a cheating whore.

[–]big_ass_package5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly this. I learned the hard way after more than one mistake. If I had known then what I know today....

[–]PhaedrusHunt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

your bro needs to learn to respect himself more than he respects a cheating whore.

You could almost sum up all of the red pill in this sentence

[–]PhaedrusHunt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Take my poor man's gold 🏅

[–]RedLegendx20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Is she behaving? Like do you know if she does stuff for him also? Or is it all him?

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[–]RedLegendx4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should definitely start trying to help him then. Trust your instincts, if you see it being one sided it’s because it’s most likely true.

[–]creating_my_life118 points119 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

He's your brother. save his ass.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev53 points54 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Shamelessly drafting off of the top comment.

If you go about it like "Stop being such a betafag," then things will go poorly. You are better off (as is he) if you tell him to show more leadership in the relationship, some light flirting/teasing, etc.

It's difficult because, well, you can lead a horse to water, etc. Good luck. You are a good brother for trying.

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[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

good point

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No doubt, but he sounds like a TradCon, so telling him to display more "leadership" might work.

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[–]babybopp3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The way to save his ass will be to let him burn first otherwise there is nothing you can say to him as he is on sugar candy mountain right now.

[–]PinacoladaSauce11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Depending on your relationship with him, I say yes. My brother and I are very close and nothing could harm our relationship so I wouldn’t have any trouble saying something to him. If you think he’d be offended and then there’d be a rift between you two then nah just leave it and be there if he asks for advice. That’s what I’d say but if I was in your shoes, I’d talk to my brother

[–]-ThePathIsTheGoal-9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some people honestly have to learn by fire. You can literally try to teach and show him a more red pilled way of being, but at the end of the day, if he’s determined to live out that blue pulled Disney fantasy with a wife, kids, etc, there’s no stopping him.

Being he’s your brother though and not a friend, I see nothing wrong with doing whatever you feel is right. At the end of the day you know you were only trying to help him.

[–]VividFall79 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't really seem like he's a beta? When having your girlfriend as a guest at your house, it's pretty customary to ask her if she wants something to eat or drink or something. Also giving her your sweater isn't anything beta either.

Being alpha doesn't mean being an uncaring asshole that is completely indifferent to your LTR's needs and feelings.

Alas, in my experience redpilling your brother or other relative never ends very well. Almost drove my brother to suicide.

[–]five_eight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nailed it.

[–]throwitdownman0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Care to elaborate on how it drove your family member that far?

[–]VividFall71 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

His LTR asked him if he would be open to spontaneous sex in a club if they weren't together. He said no, she said yes, and then he told me all about it. I told him that now you know what type of a woman she is, basically a whore. He disregarded my advice, despite telling me he felt mad about it. Fast forward a few months ago, he tells me his LTR wants to go with her girl friend to a club without him to have a "girl's night". I told him to tell her he won't be happy about it, and if she goes, the relationship is over. He didn't, and ended up driving her and her friend to the club and then driving them back. Week later, the girl asks for a break, I tell him not to agree, he agrees. She goes on the cock carousel for a month and comes back to him. Then they break up and he was depressed for half a year, telling me I was right and that his life makes no sense, he wants to end it, et cetera.

[–]throwitdownman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ouch. A story like this is incredibly common but still hurts to read. AWALT. Women will always test a man’s boundary to the limit without mercy, and if the man does not hold strong, she will run over him without mercy.

[–]NikGrd7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Make sure that YOU in particular are qualified enough to give him RP advice. If you are, do it slowly and gradually. The red pill scares most people, even open-minded ones.

[–]Friendly-Casper19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Just sit back and watch things play out. It's never wise to try and red pill anyone, even family. If things look like she's playing him, intervene and offer some advice if he asks for it. You definitely don't want to alienate your own brother. That'd only give her more control over him.

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[–]Friendly-Casper14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you do that now, you drive him away from asking for advice of you or others should things go south in their relationship. Never force red pill philosophy on anyone for that very reason, especially family. You want them to actually come to you and ask for advice if they have problems. Then you can ask questions about what's happening and suggest things for him to read and ask if any of it sounds similar to what's happening. He'll be able to form his own conclusions at that point.

[–]Alpha2714510 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Asking someone if they want anything isn't really beta, it's just being kind. Doing it to the point of annoyance is weak and over caring.

There are some larger problems you could be helping him with rather than helping him with being over polite.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Stop being a degenerate and work on yourself instead of worrying about others. You can't change the circumstances anyway. Being a little too polite to someone who is in new surroundings is not beta behaviour.

You have no idea how their relationship works out otherwise and it's none of your business.

Do you have a girl? Why not?

[–]GNlght1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ye I was wondering too what’s wrong with being polite, has nothing to do with being bluepill.. OP probably one of those guys who has to overanalyze everything.

[–]victorgrlp993 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Some people enjoy their lives being blue pill, not everyone has the mindset to be a red pill and not everyone enjoys it. I think people here think that this is the only kind of lifestyle you can have to be happy but it's not. Everyone has to live the way they want, if he is happy then you should be happy for him

[–]NeedRealityShock4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dunno if it's an issue if in his house he acts as a host , as long as she treats him as a guest in hers

[–]MrBowlfish3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This doesn’t sound blue pill. This sounds like comfort and welcoming. You’re confusing being blue-pilled with being nice. You can be a red-pill savage and be nice to people you know.

[–]JackStraw19722 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah according to this place as long as you aren’t a super douche sociopath your blue pilled. The red pill used to be a great resource now it’s just insanity

[–]nixon99310 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

So if he was slapping her once an hour everything would be fine by you,right?

[–]AdmiralFiz-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How does this comment get upvotes? She's going to get bored as hell with this guy if he keeps acting like this, that doesn't mean the only other option is mysogony. You sound like someone from a different sub trying to give us a bad name and clearly have no idea what we're about.

[–]nixon9930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Let others live the way they want thats my message to you.And if you can predict how this girl is going to behave well you are fortune teller or something,good for you i guess.

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[–]janied6025 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t see a problem as long as she is thankful and sweet.

[–]TheStumblingWolf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink.

[–]whirling_cynic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would let the relationship run its course, then give him the rational male. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

[–]JRSBOOM132 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can’t help him, every man needs to learn on his own. Do you really think he’ll be receptive to you telling him he’s acting like a beta cuck? Lol

[–]blimp112 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No good deed goes unpunished

[–]WalkToTheHills822 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You usually wouldn't want to force anyone or try to convince them because it will be difficult to. Most who find RP find it on their own in a time and place where they will seek for answers.

[–]Irtotallynotrobot2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. If you attempt to help someone with their bluepill tendencies you are getting involved in their lives which puts you in a tenuous positions. Revealing conceptual information about how you operate makes you vulnerable, it clarifies your activity and makes you predictable. That's why they inevitably tell other people about how you're some crazy redpill guy who hates women; to gain advantage over you in social hierarchy.

Rule number 1. There is a reason why you don't break it. Stop meddling in the affairs of other, focus on yourself. Most importantly, don't interrupt the development course of his life or he will never learn.

[–]nmbrod10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

How fucking retarded can you be? Knowing nothing about the relationship apart from your brother being considerate. What a shit stain of a human being you are - and all the advice here.

[–]wriley3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right. Op is jealous his brother has a girlfriend.

[–]fuckbuddhaontheroad-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Right. Such a retard and a shit stain of a human for caring about his brother. And how deluded he must be for thinking that he can infer anything after spending Thanksgiving with them.

[–]nmbrod10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He said...and I quote “haven’t observed them enough to know”.

Stop projecting and creating a story to fit your narrative. The guy has made his new girlfriend feel welcome and he’s been attentive. Jesus fucking wept.

[–]Aphexwulf3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can’t save BP people, not even close friends and family. If you try to force TRP down their throat, they just spit it out and cling to the BP even harder. You will be accused of being jealous of him, hating women, or “not getting it” that he’s found “the one”.

Sometimes if they’re smart, and with a little luck, they will start to question when things don’t go according to the BP fairytale. Like when he works 60 hours a week at some shitty job to support her, and then finds out she’s pregnant with Tyrone’s child and she wants to make it work out. But even that’s not a guarantee he’ll swallow TRP. There are married cucks who actively advertise for Chads and Tyrones to fuck their wives and tell themselves that they enjoy it. They will do unbelievable mental gymnastics to tell themselves that BP life is the way to be. Society will enforce those beliefs as well. Hell, even your own family will.

Focus on yourself instead, and become a better person. Be the best version of yourself, and understand that you can’t change anyone except yourself. Trying to save people from the BP only brings frustration and wasted energy.

[–]Nergaal1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

1) You can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved

2) At best do small pointers

3) Is she getting tired of his attention? Is she traditionalistic?

[–]ChiefFuckingBull1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

State the truth and he can iether listen, or suffer and die

[–]mayoayox1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dont bother. It's none of your business, and if they're happy then you dont need to do anything.

In the wild scenario that she complains to him and he comes to you for advice, share some of your observations with him using the 2 good things, 1 bad thing method and he'll listen.

[–]Justin120320001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah don’t help him, let him figure it out on his own cuz he’s not gonna believe you telling him all this red pill shit

[–]30DaystoSolstice1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is he always like that with her, or was he just being a good host, making sure she gets confortable in your family's home

[–]NexusReflexX1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You help him by leading.

Show him how you are with girls, how you treat them, and how they are all over you.

If you cant because their not, save yourself first

[–]Diche_Bach2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Have you fucked her? Maybe that pussy is so good it deserves some devotion and pandering?

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[–]Diche_Bach5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well then, what the hell are you out to "save him" from!?

Red/Blue/Black/Purple/Mauve pills are just metaphors you know. The idea of life is to grow and develop and not be a schmuck. Acknowledging that some females are manipulative or exploitative is fine, but the idea that this necessitates some sort of dogmatic RED PILL approach to every fucking situation in life is just about the most autistic bullshit anyone ever shat out. Maybe just ask your brother why he is so subservient and attentive to her?

[–]Sobinia0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What are Mauve pills?

[–]Diche_Bach2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

About $50 if you can find a reasonable dealer.

[–]RedLegendx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should definitely start trying to help him then. Trust your instincts, if you see it being one sided it’s because it’s most likely true.

[–]33Wolverine330 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Try to save him. If he will accept it.

[–]metajenn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you guys talk to each other about your lives? If so, wait for him to bring it up. If not, start reaching out to him with general life stuff and let him come to you.

Red pill ideas are best absorbed when the person is looking for answers. If you just start spouting your opinion he's going to shut you down. Wait until he comes with a problem, if he has no problems, leave him alone.

My brother is also a giver and I see how he is with his girlfriend and it freaks me out she will take advantage of him. I keep my mouth shut until he asks me for advice. Our brothers are going to treat their women however the dynamic they've established has been set. Especially if everything is good. But maybe it's a good idea to have a book ready if shit hits the fan.

[–]lolomotif120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you the elder brother? I am an elder brother and I always talk to my brother and give him red pill advice. Take him out for a beer and start conversation, and just ease the knowledge onto him. If he is a good and understanding brother that respects you he will take your advice onboard. Tell him about the rational male book and see if he seems interested to read it. Make him want to read it by telling him what the book has done for you. What I'm trying to get at is we cant force opinion onto people especially when it comes to relationships and beliefs, you need to make him want to understand and be intrigued to put things into perspective.

[–]linkofinsanity190 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, there's not a ton you can do. To BP people that still believe in it whole-heartedly, coming to them with the The Red Pill is like a Jehovah's Witness asking you if you've met our Lord and Savior. This is especially true for those who have a girlfriends, because they believe they're already doing it right just because some chick touches his dick occasionally and lets him spoil her with gifts, dinners, and dates.

When I was 19 and started my longest relationship I've had before TRP, I wouldn't have listened to a damn word you tried to tell me about TRP... in the beginning. Towards the end of that relationship, I was already moved in with her and her family and in under a year was considering marrying her, but fortunately didn't have the money for the level of Disney Princess wedding she thought she deserved. I was lucky enough to know simple money management at the time and told her that I needed a better paying job first. Keep in mind that during this 10 month relationship, we were both virgins saving ourselves, kinda. We fooled around a bit but we never went all the way, so I wasn't even under the influence of pussy that strongly since for me it wasn't the main factor. It was that sweet flavored Blue Pill that kept me there.

It wasn't until I got tired of her putting on weight and doing nothing about it, save for the once in a blue moon attempt at running or the occasional "Look, I'm eating a healthy meal" only to be surely followed with utter garbage less than a few hours later. This was when I realized she wasn't my princess. This is when I realized that no matter how good of a boyfriend I was, she wasn't obligated to reciprocate my covert contract of looking great for the other and that I had to break up with her. I had to realize for myself that what I was doing was not going to work or get me what I wanted. This is when I became open to knowledge and started seeking answers.

Now I didn't initially go to TRP, but Corey Wayne. Not ideal, but better than nothing. At least the dude covered testing to a degree. I could go on dates fine after that and even started having sex, but approaching was still a monumental task. When I eventually got sick of being a bitch and bitching out of a few approaches during a vacation, this is when I sought more answers. This is when I found TRP.

The point of this is, until he's at a low point in life with women, he probably won't even register what you try to tell him. He's too plugged in to hear you, and anything that gets through will still have to make it through the filter of Western feminist values.

The best you can do is live the TRP example and maybe occasionally feed him some of the more easily digestible principles. Don't overdo this or you'll get the Jehovah's Witness treatment. As bad as it is to say, hopefully this chick will cheat on him with Chad and he finds out. Then he might be ready for the truth after having it shoved in his face.

I tried Red Pilling 5 of my friends, 2 of which I consider like brothers and would die for. None of them took. One of my best friends actually accepted Rollo's book, and claimed to have read it. However, he has a girlfriend and now a child with her. When I talked to him about the book, he sounded like he read a bit, but not all. He was naturally more RP than I was growing up, but he still has a few of the fatal beliefs of BP. He doesn't want change enough yet, and that's the problem. Even if you give them books, or links to the sidebar, they won't do anything with it unless they are in a shit place. Best you can do is be there for him then.

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[–]linkofinsanity191 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He did the same for me. It's what finally pushed me to leaving her and trying to learn. After I found TRP, I threw his book away since it was basically Red Pill Lite, or maybe Purple Pill and dove down the rabbit hole.

[–]niceguyputin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very tricky, imo anyone I’ve tried to “convince”... didn’t workout well.

[–]roughback0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

my opinion: you have to time your approach right. Wait until she cheats on him then use redpill knowledge to turn his pain and anger into a weapon.

[–]RedPillAlphaBigCock0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just get him the rational male for Christmas as a "self help " book

[–]1XXXMersenne0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Bro... I had no idea it was this bad.. Who's the bitch in your relationship?"

"You need to start lifting and dial up the pimp in your relationship a little. Just a little. Any hot girls at work? flirt with em so you know you're in demand. The you won't be so protective of your 1 egg."

"Stop shouting, I was just joking, Relax. I'll be back in a few months telling you the same thing anyway so chilLLllL"

[–]kclanton800 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No No No No No No No ......and No. you only push him closer towards her. Let him crash and burn he will learn a valuable lesson through experience.

people cannot be saved from The matrix unless they naturally recognize the matrix is present. Neo saw the matrix long before Morpheus rescued him.

You cannot force someone to see The matrix, they have to awaken on their own. Then they can be provided guidance.

[–]VisiblePlan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've helped out friends before. Just don't say the Red Pill by name. Bad reputation. It helped that my life with my revolving door of women appealed to them, and my advice seemed more backed up by evidence. So if you are still early in your Redpill journey, don't proselytize.

[–]MartinVDK910 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can only show them where the water is. I'd let him find out in his own. I made a bad experience trying to apply my thinking on to somebody else.

[–]ceilingsky95-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

He's applying comfort. Mind your business.

[–]RedLegendx6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Terrible response with how little context there is.

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[–]PM_ME_SPONGEBOBMEMES5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

this is the right answer. He brought her to family thanksgiving for the first time (I assume). She’s a guest and assuming this is the first time most/all of your family has met her he’s rly just being polite probably.

I wouldn’t judge their whole relationship based off her visiting for thanksgiving, obviously things will be a different vibe

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sucks hey... I guess the best thing to do is book him for a long weekend in Vegas, with his brother and a couple friends. Show her he's a high value man. Meanwhile.... lol

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sucks hey... I guess the best thing to do is book him for a long weekend in Vegas, with his brother and a couple friends. Show her he's a high value man. Meanwhile.... lol

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sucks hey... I guess the best thing to do is book him for a long weekend in Vegas, with his brother and a couple friends. Show her he's a high value man. Meanwhile.... lol

[–]StephenHawkingsEars-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’d love someone to do shit for me like that. I need a beta GF.

[–]Kizzou-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Humor. Just start clowning him when he behaves like that. Humor can open eyes. Im not saying be cruel but instead to use humor to show the absurdity in your brothers behaviors

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Sucks hey... I guess the best thing to do is book him for a long weekend in Vegas, with his brother and a couple friends. Show her he's a high value man. Meanwhile.... lol

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I read your other comment and you mentioned gifting him the book,rational male. Incase he does not endup reading it,maybe try to bait his girl and let him learn the hard way them. Maybe that is when he will realize and learn to be a man.

[–]putconfac-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Brothers before Whores.

Buy him the book The Rational Male from Rollo Tomassi fortunately this will be enough to trigger him to swallow The Red Pill.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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