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Men's RightsViolence in lesbian relationships is higher than heterosexual relationships. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by asdfghjkltyu

Its tiring to hear the men cast as aggressors and violent stereotype. I have never committed any form of violence, being a physical fight and especially one in a relationship, yet it seems that by simply being male you are assumed to be a possible aggressor.

Yet, whenever the actual figures come out, violence in Lesbian relationships (read, no men) is significantly higher than that of both male-homosexual and heterosexual relationships with 35.4% of lesbian couples experiencing same sex violence, some 10% more than both male same sex and heterosexual relationships.

Now this could be simply a matter of interpretation of what is violence and the severity of what they deem violence, most men when hit by their female partner don't scream 'violence' simply because it usually doesn't hurt them. I can say with certainty I've had girlfriends slap me. They think its fair game, but I wouldn't go around proclaiming I'm a victim of domestic violence.


[–]redundanteater 188 points188 points [recovered]

lived upstairs from lesbian couple: fucking horrible violence... screaming biting choking attacks with weapons... neither backs down and the shit just escalates. when the cops show up, they get all SJW fight the man don't harass us because of our orientation lying bullshit and the cops nope out of there. Sooner or later one will kill the other. I hate it. I wish they'd both go to jail.

[–]1Zanford 79 points80 points  (7 children)

Gotta love the part where b/c both were women, no one got arrested.

If it were two male roommates, they'd have hauled htem both to jail.

Unless maybe they were flamboyantly gay and the cops were afraid of PC landmines.

Idea: if I ever have a cop run-in, pretend to be flaming gay?

[–]TruckerJohn 25 points26 points  (2 children)

That probably depends on what state you're in, bud.

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[–]SlappaDaBayssMon 5 points6 points  (1 child)

One of my gay buddies once told me :

"You know what the best part about being gay is? When your boyfriend gets out of line, (punches palm) "

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not just pussypass but double pussypass.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 40 points41 points  (54 children)

Most lesbians are lesbians out of choice, not because it is really truly their sexual orientation. They choose to go lez because they hate men for one reason or another. Whereas gay men usually can't help being gay, most lesbians are just degenerates succumbing to mental illness, then hamstering it as attraction.

[–]Fupa_King 64 points65 points  (10 children)

I have noticed this too. Living in a very liberal part of California most lesbians are radical feminists. Some (if not most) have decided to become lesbians because they have not been getting attention from the opposite sex, and blame us for being superficial asshole. Funny thing is I knew I was moving to a place with a large lesbian population and in my 19 y/o mind I was very excited. Little did I know it was nothing like the movies. They all tried to look like men. Overweight, short hair (except armpits and legs) and they drove lifted trucks or subarus.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Subaru foresters specifically.

[–]pl231 10 points10 points [recovered]

I honestly think significant women that are solely lesbians( I think that literally all women are bi naturally) are just that way because men aren't attracted to them, so to rationalize their way out of not being upset by that, they just hamster their way into liking other fat, spiked purple hair chicks.

When was the last time you saw a truly hot woman that only was after chicks? I don't think I ever have.

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[–]RaginGreenWurst 6 points6 points [recovered]

I strongly agree. I live in Seattle. There are tons of them like that. More and more women are becoming lesbians every single year. Most of them are radical feminists. That always left me being suspicious about their sexual orientation and behaviors.

I used to know a girl who constantly complains about oppression and violence by men. She claimed to be a pan sexual. She constantly gets into relationships with men but only lasts for a month each. After every breakup, she becomes more radical and radical feminist. Now she decides to be a lesbian. It's all bullshit, man.

[–]Mmagikarp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"You dont know what I've been through you dont know my story brawh". Yeah Seattle is really weird, I love it but Jeez the Feminist propaganda is strong in NSCC, UW and UW BothelL...

[–]1mojo_juju 1 point2 points  (0 children)

most lesbians are radical feminists.

Ditto from what I can tell.

I knew the woman who opened a place called "Cheer up Charlie's" a gay bar in Austin. She was super nice to me when she was friends with my female cousin who she was attracted to. After their friendship tapered off... she was very fake-faced to me.. for example, I ran into her a few times when she was with her girlfriend, who is super nice to me (she has invited me to movie screenings she put on), and the original lez is always super short (communicatively) with me, as if she can't wait to get away from me with her girlfriend who is friendly with me. Basically, I say hi to her, she acknowledtes me barely, and then her girlfriend and I chat a little bit, and the original lez has to drag her away by the wrist...

And I really get the sense every time that she doesn't like me as a person only because I am a man, and she has read/heard bad things about men... and hamsters them to the fullest.

so funny... But yeah. The original lez lady is all punk style, butchy, hipster skinny jeans, partially shaved head, etc... and seems very rad fem.

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

For some it is, for some it isn't. We are still learning a lot about sexual orientation. My fiancee is bi-sexual. She enjoys me, she enjoys women, she enjoy watching me enjoy women, she enjoys me and her with another woman.

I've also known a lot of lesbians that stay gay. I've known straight women who go gay because they feel that's who they are (I can't tell them what if that works for them or not). And I've known gay women who choose to go straight because they can't stand the drama of being with another woman (a lesbian friend of mine is married to a guy, and it's one big mind fuck to hear her explain it, but she admits he is the best sex she's ever had, granted I've never tapped it and wasn't given the chance).

I've also known women with gender dysphoria (gender identity confusion some call it) who wish they were men, and want to date men. As one friend has put it on numerous ocassions, she wishes she was a guy who was gay.

Some people do legitimately suffer sexual and gender identity issues. And some people are just attention whores.

[–]juanqunt 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I know you're trying to be rational here, but what you say has little scientific basis. Women are sexually aroused by just about anything.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16168255

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15482445

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Yes women are gender fluid as hell. They're all BI but go through phases of liking women more, or liking men more, depending psychologically how the women/men in their lives have treated them. You get girls who ate their friends out in college, made out and blah blah. Girls who consider themselves straight will say "we were just experimenting!" blah blah blah. But you never get straight guys "just experimenting" they're either gay, or they're not. I'm not sure why you've been downvoted to fuck. I'm sure some SJWs in another subreddit are brigading your comment because the votes reek of butthurt, visceral disagreement. Your comment is perfectly reasonable.

[–]Voter09 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Posting using a throwaway since too many people know my main.

I wanted to point out that some guys do experiment, they just don't advertise it. I have been bi curious especially in my younger very low T days. I was not attracted to muscles/masculine body but still wanted to be fucked. So I went ahead and tried it. I did not like it enough to want it more than a few times.

Of course if sharing the above information gave every girl I met a twinkle in their eyes, I would be wearing a shirt saying I am bi. But it doesn't, which is why no one in my life has the slightest idea I've willingly sucked some dicks. Judging by the sex ads on craigslist and anonymous confessions on 4chan, I am willing to bet there is A LOT of guys like me out there.

[–]vzhu 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am willing to bet there is A LOT of guys like me out there.

I hope your sources weren't /fit/ or /k/.

[–]ECoast_Man 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is very true.

It is for this reason, I use the term lesbian judiciously. I don't even classify these self-reported lesbians as lesbians anymore. When I say lesbian, it's a full out lesbian, typically butch, lesbian. I know the difference between the real lesbians and fake ones by this age.

These girls get the - 'oh, you're a lesbian? Riiigghht....' Treatment. I just don't give a fuck anymore, I pretty much call it to their faces now.

[–]Hinsbock 30 points30 points [recovered]

Both gay and lesbians are more likely to commit suicide and develop a psychiatric disorder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology#Mental_health_issues

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

They werent mentally stable to begin with.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (8 children)

If you live in a society where you frequently have to fight for equal legal protections and access to basic services it makes sense that rates of mental health issues would be higher then for people that have lived their whole live with their rights respected.

[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Fuck off with this SJW bullshit. In post-Marxist dictatorships LGBT are 'privileged' over (back-of-the-bus) "evil cis-white males". If you are taking a dick up your a$$, you qualify for BDG protection. On the other hand, a father fighting for basic visitation hasn't a chance in hell to see his own GDF kids.

[–]swingingdink420 27 points28 points  (0 children)

That wasn't SJW shit at all. People on this sub need to stop taking everything to opposite extremes. Just because you can sympathize with what a gay man has to deal with doesn't automatically make you a SJW/feminazi.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What? I am terrible sorry that you have lost your grasp on reality but that does not mean that you should be angry at me. We are not in a post-Marxist dictatorship in any government in the world. No where in the world do LGBT have equal protections and equal rights to straights. These are not social justice statements but simple truths.

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Political lesbians I believe they are called

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[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 1 point2 points  (3 children)

[–]CaptainExtermination -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

We need a scientific article.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You need to go back to your safe SJW place

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you had bothered to check the article before posting...

http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/Gender_and_Erotic_Plasticity__Sociocultural_Influences_on_the_Sex_Drive.pdf

You can use that as a platform to further studies about the female sexual plasticity, which the author talks about.

[–]someguysomewhere321 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For most Dees, yes, for Dykes, no. In south east asia, getting with a Dyke is usually a good deal, as long as they can deal with the jelly behavior. Mostly no demands for sex from what I've heard and they tend to have enough cash for a good lifestyle + gifts for the dee.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, good point. Dykes are truly gay, Dees are just playing the field for the most value/benefit.

[–]darkrood 3 points4 points  (0 children)

by posting no-stat backing statement, you are no better.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Dont understand the downvotes

[–]1Dev_on -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Most likely because lesbians have nothing to do with male sexual strategy

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Understanding women has alot to do with male sexual strategy. Thus understanding what women do without men is around is relevant.

[–]1Dev_on 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honestly take alook at today's posts. What making it to the top.

Doors that really look like understanding women? Or does it look like wallowing in the anger phase, celebrity gossip, and MRA cjs?

Lesbians are more violent... If you haven't weeded these people out of you're life, the problem isn't understanding, it's boundaries.

It's not even a field report about how a guy deals with a violent plate... It's just statistical MRA game. Look at the crazy women, let's cathartically bitch about them.

Or maybe I'm wrong, and knowing that lesbians fight more will create better rp men... Doubt it, but I guess it's possible

[–]Hedphelym1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the same with men too.

[–]cray-cray-cray 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Most lesbians are lesbians out of choice, not because it is really truly their sexual orientation. They choose to go lez because they hate men for one reason or another.

most lesbians are just degenerates succumbing to mental illness, then hamstering it as attraction.

Well... really, if their personal experience is that men suck, then I don't blame them and wouldn't consider it "hamstering." "Hamstering" is changing facts to fit a desired conclusion.

[–]1cover20 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think it's out of choice for both sexes, which is why lesbians are much more rare than homosexual men.

A homosexual man lives with another man, which is a pretty fair experience. Having a man there instead of a woman may make up for the lack of a vagina and childbearing capacity for some guys.

A lesbian lives with another woman and doesn't even get proper sex, nor proper game. A very bad deal. Those who try it often quit.

[–]SILENTSAM69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you are wrong. That is more of a bisexual thing than a lesbian thing.

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[–]ThePedanticCynic 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Men usually don't.

Damn that patriarchy! They let women marry so they can't beat up their SO without repercussions!

[–]symko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

then watch CNN interview a blind man. They'll ask him what he saw.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 118 points119 points  (67 children)

When women hit men men dont say anything. When women hit other women they file a police report. In reality the female violence rate is probably constant at 34% in het and lesbian relationships.

[–]robo23 41 points41 points [recovered]

I got the shit slapped out of me with a closed fist a few months ago when the girl I was sleeping with found out I was fucking other women. I walked out the door. Had I done the same to her I would have been carted away in cuffs.

[–]LaV-Man 45 points46 points  (28 children)

Sad fact #217. Had you called the cops on her for hitting you, you'd probably been carted away in cuffs anyway. There's a youtube video that lists the extra benefits women get in our society and among them they state this with references. Men are usually arrested when there's domestic violence even when it's perpetrated by the woman.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 30 points31 points  (26 children)

Men are usually arrested when there's domestic violence even when it's perpetrated by the woman.

In California it's actually the law. Feminism is to thank for that.

[–]vezokpiraka 7 points8 points  (25 children)

What? Do you have the text of the law?

[–]ThePedanticCynic 20 points21 points  (24 children)

Yes. The California domestic violence law.

The key phrase being:

Peace officers shall make reasonable efforts to identify the dominant aggressor in any incident. The dominant aggressor is the person determined to be the most significant, rather than the first, aggressor.

Most significant being the one who can potentially do the most harm, even if he hasn't.

[–]HeinousFu_kery 9 points10 points  (3 children)

This sounds like "the biggest/meanest one" to me rather than "male".

Plenty of ladies around here heavier and nastier looking than me.

(No, I'm not about to go to California to try it all out)

[–]ThePedanticCynic 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Well, yes. Men have a strong tendency to be bigger, though. Sometimes women get arrested, and i can only assume those women outweigh the men.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I called the cops on an ex once, after her attacking and eventually locking herself in the bathroom threatening to cut herself. Girl had baggage, wasn't the first time she'd done it. They took her away, granted it was to a hospital and not jail. We were both drunk as it was after a celebration (her favorite time to throw shit storms). It might have not been interpreted as 'domestic violence' so much as a suicide attempt? Clearly she had the most potential to do harm in that situation though, and I was a concerned boyfriend. They left me alone, just asked me a bunch of questions about her mental state.

[–]MyRedAccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Average is double female strength IIRC. Check wiki or anything with references on sexual dimorphism. They may be heavier than you but you're probably quite a bit stronger than they are assuming you went through a normal puberty.

[–]vezokpiraka 0 points1 point  (7 children)

That is fucked up.

I'm glad I don't live in california

[–]ThePedanticCynic 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Me to, but i imagine you live in the US, and that makes this your problem. As the old poet said, don't disregard those who aren't you, or it is you who will be next.

[–]vezokpiraka 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Sorry. I don't live in the US. If I did I would've been afraid of going out of my bunker because the police shoot you in the street there.

I come from Eastern Europe where people still have some common sense left.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I am from the US, and the police are pretty fucking bad... but the streets aren't quite running with as much blood as i imagine the reports tell you. If i only knew what i read, i'd feel like the US is in a civil war, too.

That said, i hear Europe is pretty fucked too. Depending on the country, you don't have any kind of individual rights. The cops can search your shit, just because; and you can't even own a gun? How do you defend yourselves from criminals with guns?

[–]gluxcogknocker 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Doesn't that mean the one who has committed the most violence? Not who can?

[–]ThePedanticCynic 10 points11 points  (5 children)

You would think, but men are frequently arrested there having never touched a woman. I suppose this law could be used that way when a woman stabs a man, for instance; except that in another section there's a special clause for self-defense.

And, as we all know, men are always the aggressors. /s

This entire law is written so women don't go to jail. Before this law, there was a law written that said someone must always go to jail over a domestic violence call. Arrests of women went up 400%, and arrests of men went up like 12%. After this law, women all but stopped being arrested.

[–]WingTune0 8 points9 points  (4 children)

California, what the fuck are you doing?

[–]TempusRerumImperator 8 points9 points  (2 children)

The Hippies fucked up california and started to move to the pacific northwest en masse. Oregon and Washington state are next.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Repelling reason by accepting feminism. I would never live there, for this and other reasons.

California also recently adopted a 'guilty until proven innocent' law targeted at college campuses with regards to rape. Now a man in college has to prove he didn't rape a woman, rather than her having to prove he did.

[–]yougotshitonyourass 0 points0 points [recovered]

Every law is open to interprétation, if the judge interpret the law as you do you will surely win.

Justice can be tricky maybe that's why lawyers are so edgy

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

You ever been through the legal system? Try waiting a year just to get the chance to sit infront of a judge, while the prosecutor is offering you deals that are still shitty but are better than what they're stacking against you. That can break a person in itself, if not financially then spiritually/mentally. Yes, I've been through the system (not for domestic, but I imagine the experience is similar or far worse than my plight).

[–]yougotshitonyourass 1 points1 points [recovered]

My past ain't shit compared to what some of you have faced and surely my poorly artculate idea have been misunderstood.

But to answer your question "Yes I already have"

[–]GC0W30 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Mine always punch me in the chest. One was because she found texts showing I'd gone to visit another girl, and the other because I was siding with another girl in an argument over computers.

[–]1Zanford 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Punch on arm is flirty, punch on chest is bitchy but can be sublimated into hawt dread-game sex, punch/slap on face or groin is hard next.

[–]GC0W30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Smashed both later those respective nights. The first one was a fat, daddy-issue-having mistake. Wish I had hard nexted her right then. Wasted the next two years of my life.

The second was too hot for me, so yay.

[–]1nzgs[🍰] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sometimes you just gotta give women their rights

and lefts

[–]HeinousFu_kery 9 points10 points  (9 children)

I found that the best solution is to look them straight in the eye and say "Do you really want to go there with me? I've never had a woman take it any farther (I'm a big guy), but I'm always prepared to walk permanently if they do.

As John Barrymore said "The way to fight a woman is with your hat. Grab it and leave."

[–]robo23 2 points2 points [recovered]

Ha, well I didn't see it coming (including the fight). Got woken up naked at her place after she'd gone through my phone while I was asleep.

[–]LuciusExitius 0 points1 point  (7 children)

You don't have a coded lock on your phone?

[–]robo23 2 points2 points [recovered]

Of course. But she'd watched and figured it out over time.

[–]LuciusExitius 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Is it one of those swipe ones? I always use a password code and make it like 12-15 characters long. And its not because I have anything to hide but I think a phone is private, I hate when an SO asks to see your phone, FB messages, etc they start that shit and its over. Maybe its because I am in IT, security is important.

[–]KenuR 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I always use a password code and make it like 12-15 characters long.

So you have to type it in every time you want to check something on your phone? Ain't nobody got time for that.

[–]LuciusExitius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol i'm not superglued to my technology, I check it once every half hour at most, and if someone is texting me back and forth then I dont lock it.

[–]robo23 1 points1 points [recovered]

It was a 5 character pin. I even changed it ~weekly. But where there is a will there is a way. In a kind of ironic twist, she actually worked as an administrative assistant for the NSA for a brief period.

[–]HeinousFu_kery 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since phones are simply computers, you should be able to run a VM type arrangement with no easy evidence in the main device - something like this though I've never tried it, and there are enhanced locking system - again, I've never tried this.

That said, if you're a playa, you're just going to have to make a hasty exit from time to time (voice of experience here)...just be glad you have all your parts intact.

[–]LuciusExitius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, well next time biometrics lol.

[–]O3EAN 51 points52 points  (18 children)

Doubt it, I'm guessing hetero relationships are way higher because the female doesn't expect the male to hit back. Can't say the same for women, they start bitchfights all the time

[–]UsernameIWontRegret 30 points31 points  (7 children)

I could be totally wrong as I am recalling from memory, but a long time ago I think I saw this study that said that about 60% of women will abuse their partner or children in life.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 12 points13 points  (6 children)

I recall something similar, but not the same. I read that 60%+ instances of reported domestic violence cases were instigated by women, and about 60% of all child abuse cases were by women.

These numbers are, obviously, too low since women are often given a pass. Feminists in California, for example, successfully lobbied to have the law read that men are nearly always to be the ones arrested in a domestic violence call, even if he didn't touch her.

[–]UsernameIWontRegret 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Duh! Didn't you know that hurting a woman's feelings is just as bad as punching her in the face!? Misogynist shitlord!!

/s

[–]we_kill_creativity 6 points7 points  (3 children)

How did the men in Cali, even the SJW types let that happen? Was it something that was voted on by the public?

[–]ThePedanticCynic 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I doubt it was publicly voted on, but just something pushed through by politicians after extended feminist lobbying. The public was probably lied to about the reach of the law, as we always are, and men were underinformed.

People tend to think along the lines of, "Well i would never hit my wife, and those who do should be locked up, anyway." They don't realize the law can be used against them, even if they aren't doing anything wrong.

[–]Elodrian 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I thought laws in California all ran off of ballot initiatives now.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure. I thought those kinds of things were only required for state amendment changes. I know in Florida, last election, we attempted to legalize marijuana, but it only got 54% or so of the vote; and it required 60% because it was a serious change.

Locking up men because a woman said he should be? I'd be surprised if that even required a majority in California.

[–]TomHicks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ain't that the Duluth model though?

[–]Makati-Kills 20 points20 points [recovered]

yep,

most likely 100% of women has hit one or more men.

men, such as myself, drive them crazy. And they have no problem hitting me.

cover your balls and face, try not to laugh too much...

[–]supersonic-turtle 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I'm on the same boat as you man. I have been punched in the face until bleeding, hit in the groin, the neck and of course clawed without mercy.... I never can figure out why some women find it necessary to physically assault us. Especially when they are already waging a successful campaign on our individual mental health and mass public image. smh, its just the way it is I guess...

[–]ekjohnson9 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Wrong. I have friends who work at a hospital in a major city. It's an understanding that lesbian couples tend to kick the shit out of each other.

[–]theHangedGod 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That doesn't make it wrong. Lesbian couples can kick the shit out of each other and go to the hospital, no guy is going to get beaten by his woman and go to the hospital. If it is absolutely necessary, he's not going to tell the cops or nurse that his girlfriend just beat him bloody.

[–]1Zanford 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah I wouldn't tell the doctors or cops either, not b/c I would be afraid of them laughing (tho I'm sure htey would), but b/c when they asked the girl about it she would inevitably lie and say 'he hit first!'

Then you'd wake up handcuffed to your hospital bed and get jailed as soon as you were well enough.

[–]theHangedGod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

90% of the time it's just not believable. Every guy I know with a LTR could swear his girl beat him and he wasn't able to stop her, I wouldn't believe a single one of them.

[–]1beerthroway 18 points19 points  (5 children)

I was good friends with a lesbian couple for almost a year. We'd hang out at the bars and at their apartment weekly. Probably once a month they'd be having a fight that turned violent. The straw that broke the camel's back for me was on the dom's birthday: she got really drunk and ended up getting pissed about nothing and choking out her mate in the bathroom. I heard it and ran in there and broke them up. I stopped hanging with them after that.

Occasionally I see them and they always say "let's hang out". I tell them to text me but they never do. They don't seem to want to separate. It's like they both enjoy the emotional roller coaster.

[–]asdfghjkltyu[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

They don't seem to want to separate. It's like they both enjoy the emotional roller coaster.

Women love purposely starting conflict. This doesn't surprise me. I think its one of the main reason men get sick of relationships with them, they're always hunting for fresh drama.

[–]1beerthroway 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think both genders do, to a degree. I'd rather feel something bad rather than numbness, at least I'd know I was alive in that case. But I think women seek those negative emotions because they love that swing from feeling like shit to feeling amazing. They really want to feel good, but like a sick drug addict, feeling bad is worth feeling the "extra" good.

They are emotion addicts.

In their defense, emotions are all they really have.

[–]1cover20 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

This is what I don't understand. I know enough of the problems lesbians have. I don't know why they take it rather than looking for a man.

[–]YuriJackoffski 8 points9 points  (0 children)

um... because they're lesbians ?

[–]rabblerabble8 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My lesbian neighbors fight all the time. The only thing more difficult/trying than one woman in a relationship, is two.

[–]sweetleef 38 points39 points  (8 children)

I'm sure there is a way to construe lesbian violence as being men's fault, but I can't think of one now.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 24 points25 points  (1 child)

If men were better men then women wouldn't be lesbians, and the lesbians would be able to hit their spouses without being hit back.

[–]sweetleef 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If men were better men then women wouldn't be lesbians,

That implies that being lesbian is somehow "bad" or that they would "prefer" to not be lesbians, if the situation were different.

Patriarch sexist shitlord asshole bigot!

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Well, from what I've read, they assume that being part of a minority group stresses them more and therefor they are under much more pressure. And you know whose fault that is.

[–]sweetleef 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, perfect! Another consequence of being born into the patriarchy, no responsibility on their part, they are the perpetual innocent victims. I like it.

[–]1Zanford 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Men create violent media image which brainwishes children (boys moreso b/c they were inherently evil, but some girls too). So that butch lesbian is only violent b/c evil capitalists created GI Joe commercials. Also GMOS in our food make us violent. Monsanto and Mattel made her throw her partner down the stairs. QED.

[–]sweetleef 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the innocent victim girls are involuntarily indoctrinated while being forced to live amongst boys and consume male media propaganda.

This could easily be a chapter in a women's studies "textbook" - nicely done.

[–]Answers_with_lead 10 points11 points  (4 children)

My lesbian friend AND her twin both date abusive women, the one pair has been together for 11 years too. It is literally a joke to them, they laugh about it in public..

Despite that, they are actually really nice (and actually attractive) they even gave me a Pebble smart watch for Christmas. I guess they didn't get my joke when I said "I wanna watch".

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

it shows you who kicked the war off

[–]Forty_Deuce 30 points31 points  (1 child)

I have female friends. Two of them were in a relationship with each other. I'll call then Kate and Ally. Here's the funny bull crap. Now, I've been told through the media that feminists have no problems. Two women together won't have the same problems that a heterosexual couple has. So how come they did nothing but argue. Kate, who was the real lesbian, would moan on about how Ally didn't show enough affection, and that Ally didn't know how to love. Ally was so god damn tired of the emotional needs of her girlfriend. Now I was there from the cradle to the grave. So I saw everything Ally did to show how much she cared, and it was never enough. And she was the one who was having so much trouble with men, and thought a woman would be different. We went out for happy hour and she told me that she sees what we have to go through. She let it all out and I could not stop laughing. Her own words, "I have trouble with men, but I would rather have trouble with men than to go through some bullshit with women. At least I don't have to hear about your feelings every single day." She hightailed it so fast to the first blue eyed, washboard abs, blonde hair guy she could find.

[–]1cover20 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And this is typically what happens with lesbians. They leave lesbianism. Lesbianism is much rarer than male homosexuality.

The exceptions could be some poor souls who are really psychologically fucked up. I heard one woman decrying (at the top of her voice, walking thru Grand Central Station in NYC!) about how all men are pigs and this and that, and she really was in agony. I did feel sorry for her and wished I could have helped, I tried to talk to her but she shut me out because I guess I was one of those men. She was really damaged. Such a woman might remain a lesbian out of fear.

But a lot of lesbians realize what other women already realized -- they want to stay away from other women.

[–]c4ndyflip 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I know one lesbian couple distantly and both of them are borderline scary with their aggressive behaviour in general. So I'm not surprised.

[–]TRP-Talk 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I knew a girl whose friend was in a violent and abusive lesbian relationship, and hearing my friend describe their relationship was terrifying. It wasn't so much that the violence and abuse was more extraordinary than you would expect from a bad relationship between a man and a woman, but that because they were two lesbians, it was impossible for anyone to recognize the problem.

My friend described how eager people around the couple were to make excuses, or to ignore the severity of the abuse, and those who were in positions of authority were more than likely to just chuckle. If I recall correctly, police were involved once, and their reaction was something on the level of: "Yeah, right, two violent and abusive lesbians! That's rich!"

It was really miserable hearing about it though. Here's this girl getting her shit stomped on the regular, who can't even manifest the will to escape a horrible situation, and the reaction of the society at large is that such problems don't exist because they don't fit that pre-programmed outrage narrative that has people reflexively reacting to even the slightest suggestion of male-on-female violence.

It's bad.

[–]1cover20 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Of course. Women cannot problem solve. Girl game doesn't work on another girl. And so violence is used, basically the same stuff we've seen in girls, but worse because there isn't the natural heterosexual attraction and male calmness to get through it.

If a girl is smart, once she experiences a little of that, she'll reevaluate whether she really has to be a lesbian. And from my reading of what those folks write (I spy everywhere, I am actually interested in knowing about all sides of the human experience) lesbians often see "defectors" to men, and they hate it.

They can't compete with a dick, or a man generally.

[–]agumonkey 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Could you give more details about her relationship ?

[–]TRP-Talk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd have to go back and find the letters that contained the details, but it probably wouldn't be worth the effort.

[–]dicklord_airplane 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the stats are very skewed because men just don't report abuse and violence from women for a variety of reasons. i know that i would think twice about calling the police on a violent partner because i'd have to consider the risk that i would get arrested as well.

while on the topic: save yourself the trouble and break up with your partner on good terms if you sense manipulative or violent intent in them. don't try to change or fix violent and abusive people. they'll just drag you down with them, and there are plenty of nice girls out there that you're ignoring because they aren't exciting and dangerous. recognize the fact that you probably have your own rationalization hamster spinning on its wheel in your head, and kill it.

[–]symko 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And this is partly to do with why women are so confused. It's been drilled into their heads to find a nice guy, they lust for bad boys, government puts out PSA's that bad boys are,"abusive." They get into a relationship with a lesbian and get abused.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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What is this?

[–]DaphneDK 7 points8 points  (1 child)

According to the article: lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner was 43.8 percent for lesbians, 61.1 percent for bisexual women, and 35 percent for heterosexual women, while it was 26 percent for gay men, 37.3 percent for bisexual men, and 29 percent for heterosexual men

Gay men are apparently the least abused of all.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I have been attacked by two girlfriends. Multiple times. Been slapped in the face by a number of others.

I have never laid my hands on a woman.

I think my reality is much more common than women experiencing men beating them up. They know (or think) 1. I won't fight back and hurt them and 2. They won't get in trouble with the police.

[–]1cover20 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Women never want female roommates as adults because of this. They become bitchy assholes (esp. if they want kids and it's not happening) and the only one who will tolerate that shit is a man, esp. a beta man. She can bullshit that guy and he'll put up with a lot of it.

Whereas another woman won't be nice to her at all and when words fail, which they will almost immediately, violence could be coming soon.

I am sure the survey result is correct. I am surprised the incidence isn't higher in lesbian relationships. Women cannot resolve problems between themselves (sometimes it's possible if a man supervises) so wouldn't all lesbian relationships go to violence?

[–]BlackHeart89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of lesbian couple I've known for a few months. The fem is actually the abusive one. The stud just takes it and then apologizes for making her mad.

[–]Sexualasaltandpepper 5 points6 points  (1 child)

They'd calm down if they got some dick.

[–]NickCiufi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's actually the opposite. Dick'll make you slap somebody.

[–]1Zanford 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the theory that b/c women are most likely to cry wolf, when you have 2 females, you have the highest rate of reported violence.

Even if this is the whole reason for the difference, it would serve to cast welcome skepticism on heteresexual reports of domestic violence.

The truth is probably some of both.

[–]aa223 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm guess out of that 36%, 20% of the causes comes from who is the rock in the relationship.

Otherwise, if this data does hold water basically it looks like lesbians who do those kind of things are regressing back to the animal kingdom where two alphas fight each other for dominance. Quick someone pitch the idea in the style of an animal documentary.

I do find it sad though that people who would deny that lesbians don't participate in domestic violence or even deny that maybe women can be domestically violent won't see the truth because they choose to ignore reality and input their own reality.

Oh well, I at least have faith that we as men are above this behavior and are more rationally diplomatic than our female counterparts. And if we do engage in violence towards each other it will at least be an honorable fight.

[–]HeadingRed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was friends with a lesbian couple for about 5 years. They had a 3 bedroom townhome- one bedroom for when they were not fighting a seperate bedrooms for each one when they were.

P (the more masculine one) told me at least one day a week H would tell her to go sleep in "her room". Also at least one day a week H would just say "I'm staying in my room". So basically about a 1/3 of the time too angry to sleep in the same room with each other.

Also knew an older lesbian couple (late 50'searly 60's) and they just each had separate bedrooms. One of them pretty much traveled 1/2 the time (family etc) the other stayed home.

I mean look at the divorce rates for same sex men and women- can anything else tell you we have a difference here?

[–]Shai_Huluds_asshole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And coincidentally, the gay couple living above me are just the nicest people and no one ever had a problem with them.

[–]R4F1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Domestic violence (including that against children), is higher from women than men, in general.

[–]Monster__Rain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Divorce is higher in lesbian relationships, too. That's because there's twice as many women.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 3 points4 points  (5 children)

How depraved is it that I find the idea of lesbian chicks kicking the shit out of each other ridiculously hot?

[–]newmewuser 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The real life is nothing like lesring but closer to land-whale fights.

[–]YuriJackoffski 2 points3 points  (1 child)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look up "Ultimate Surrender".

[–]someguysomewhere321 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Dykes have a rep for being jelly and possessive. They also tend to be more alpha than your average guy in terms of not taking shit and reacting with violence to keep their girl in line.

[–]juanqunt 53 points54 points  (1 child)

It's not called being alpha, it's called being a bitch.

[–]ShitArchonXPR 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Exactly. It's not that "lesbians are being masculine"--quite the opposite. American women have a larger entitlement mentality than American men. Guess what happens when you put two entitled women together, as opposed to two less-entitled men?

If a man acted like Chanty Bix, we would call that losing frame at best.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I can buy this. I have several lesbian friends and a few days ago they were all sharing the same meme. It was some meme of some gorgeous girl saying her lesbian girlfriend has not called her in 3 hours, and that's a year in lesbian time. My first thought was "do they all admit to being this kind of clingy?"

[–]1cover20 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When a vagina wants, it wants now.

[–]yougotshitonyourass 4 points4 points [recovered]

Ever watch girl-on-girl porn ?

It's roughest action i've never seen, even the so-called hardcore porn can't be compared to this.

They also tend to be more alpha than your average guy in terms of not taking shit and reacting with violence to keep their girl in line.

Lesbian invented "abuse & humiliation"

[–]1cover20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fisting ffs. How can you get a whole fist (even a female fist) up there? But they do that stuff.

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[–]forbinsdecline 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No offense, but I don't see how lesbian relationships have anything to do with being red pill.

[–]JamesK1973 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It is illustrating that women are violent emotional hamsters whether their partner is a man or a woman.

Think of this as an extensions of AWALT.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never heard violence was higher in lesbian relationships. I heard it was higher in gay relationships.

I have, however, heard that breakups are far more common in lesbians relationships as two hyper-emotional people can't keep anything together.

[–]Tarnsman4Life 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Put two emotional people who don't know how to lead in a relationship and this is what you get. Frustration over a lack of direction boils over into violence.

[–]Orflarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not understanding why this is a post... Doesn't seem relevant at all to TRP. In fact the entire comment section just seems to be one big circle jerk with no real purpose or discussion.

[–]TempusRerumImperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well you can't have a stable relationship from 2 teenagers. There has to be a stabilizing figure, and that's usually the guy. I wonder what the statistics are for gay men? Probably lower than hetero couples, but not as high as lesbians. This is assuming the DSM criterion that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and these people are perfectly normal.

If we do assume Homosexuality is a mental disorder, and go with the old DSM criteria, i'd expect rates of domestic violence to be higher in homosexual relationships overall.

[–]C00l_Guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mentally ill people behave poorly

Wow really?? This is BREAKING NEWS who would have guessed these mentally ill degenerates do things like this?

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