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Deep down inside I always knew what many of trp principles were, even before they were labelled as redpill. I was already familiar with truisms like AFBB, I just had no clue how pervasive it was. I also had no clue on how to implement red pill principles and theories or philosophy of how and why they worked. Because of this sub I've been able to more coherently put the pieces together and wanted to take time out to thank this sub for pointing me in the right direction.

I've never had much of a problem attracting the attention of women I suppose. My problem was not getting to fuck them on a regular basis. More times than not I'd find myself in the friend zone. By the time I got to college it began to eat away at my self worth.

To be fair, I sure as hell don't have super model looks and have never been a pretty boy. However, I played football and was also captain of the wrestling team so on the outside I appeared to be the typical alpha jock. On the inside though, I was beta as fuck.

I'm embarrassed thinking back on how I used to bend over backwards for chicks in an effort to be the nice guy. Once I got a girl's attention I figured being respectful and treating them like a human being was the way to keep it. Even though I knew better, I tricked myself into thinking that buying women drinks at the bar would help me get my foot in the door. Hell, I've even helped a chick move into her apartment with the hope of getting to fuck afterwards (I'm sure you all know how that turned out).

In fact, looking back I think helping that one chick move was my rock bottom. Believe me, I was more upset at myself than I was at her. Deep down inside my fucked up blue pill mind, I knew she was using me like an orbiter. But like most blue pillers, I thought that helping her out when she had no place else to turn would put me over the top. I guess it did sort of put me over the top, just not in the way I intended. Instead it helped me get my head out of my ass and get some of my fucking dignity back. This is where trp comes in.

Like I said before, I was always seen as alpha on the outside. Hitting the weights wasn't a problem, I did that just about everyday anyway. My style could always use improvement but it's never been a major issue. I've got a decent job that most chicks find interesting (scientist). But what I really needed trp for was to clean up my interactions with women. I needed some real life insight to keep myself from doing the things that would land me in the friend zone. Identifying things like oneitis, AWALT, maintaining frame and passing shit tests have been invaluable to me. Focusing on me rather than trying to appeal to women is probably the most important philosophy I've taken from the sub.

Being able to hear all of the anecdotal evidence of how you guys apply trp tactics along with the effect it's had on your interactions with women has also helped me immensely. I realize that many of the stories here are most likely bullshit, but I can easily incorporate the parts that I know would help me out. At any rate I just wanted to send out my thanks to this sub. Ten years ago I doubt my thick skull would have allowed the finer details of trp to sink in. Now that I witness it everyday, it more than makes sense.

I have so many more embarrassing betafied stories as well as some of how trp has improved my life in general. But I'll end it here and save those for another time.


[–]Roughknot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great to hear you have a solid base to work from, it'll be the mental hurdles for you more than anything as you have identified.

If you haven't read it make sure you check out No More Mr Nice Guy on the side bar.

The hard part is breaking the mental habits, but just remember how awesome you are and use that feeling.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

By the time I got to college it began to eat away at my self worth.

I find that hard to believe is you where a wrestler, maybe with women, but you can't play contact sports and be a pussy.

I figured being respectful and treating them like a human being was the way to keep it.

It's the way to behave like a civilised human being, but that does not get you layed.

In fact, looking back I think helping that one chick move was my rock bottom

maybe for a lesbian, but as a man you can go way deeper than that.

I've got a decent job that most chicks find interesting (scientist).

by chicks are you talking about chinese and jewish mothers with daugthers? Because even those prefer doctors to researchers.

I needed some real life insight to keep myself from doing the things that would land me in the friend zone.

Be fuckable and express sexual interest honeslty.

but I can easily incorporate the parts that I know would help me out.

no, I don't trust you to pick out the hard truths, you will just pick out things that make you feel better.

I have so many more embarrassing betafied stories as well as some of how trp has improved my life in general.

I prefer the latter, most people around here have enough reasons of their own to hate women.

[–]niczar0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I find that hard to believe is you where a wrestler, maybe with women, but you can't play contact sports and be a pussy.

You're underestimating how much some men are pussified by the Disney narratives.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree with that assertion, it can be argued that whenever there is a absence of a cognitive model culture can play a part, but mostly we build ourself with models we gain from our parents and our enviroment. If you understand physical conflict, I don't see how you can be a pussy towards men.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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