I've been a subscriber on /r/mensrights since before the inception of theredpill, and for a lot of guys who are plugged in, it's a real breath of fresh air. Going from a society and culture that universally demonizes men and legally and culturally places women above all- it's hard for men not to start feeling a little nuts wondering if anybody else notices the injustices. Men are given harsher sentences for the same crimes women commit (if women get sentenced at all), men have their bodies mutilated at birth by routine procedure, men risk financial slavery to women just for being on her radar, and men face prison for not paying women their dues. Life can really suck for a guy. And men's rights is an oasis where they pull back the curtain and really shed some light on these issues.
Men's rights don't always get a fair shake on TRP, and I want to be on record as defending them. There are some very important issues that must be addressed legally for men, and I will always support the fight for equality for men. Always. Interestingly, I feel that our risk to be victimized by these disparities is almost entirely proportional to our interaction with women. If you can manage to avoid women altogether, you can basically whittle that risk down to near-zero. But that's not an option for me, I really like sex. Every encounter I have with a woman exposes me to financial, emotional, physical and criminal risks- even if I commit no crimes, have only the best intentions, and do not do anything wrong. Women can lie- lie about birth control, lie about diseases, lie about rape, and lie about paternity- and as a man, I'm on the hook- not for what I've done, but for what she says. Women are wholesale liabilities.
Yet, for all the positive goals mensrights seems to have, they have one distinct flaw- one major drawback- that I believe is the reason we're about to pass their subscriber-ship number... Their approach to reality, to life, and to personal happiness... is to double down on the feminine primary viewpoint our culture has adopted.
In other words, they've glimpsed into the abyss, and didn't just reject the red pill, they took two blue pills and chased it with windshield washer fluid.
One of the primary concerns of /r/mensrights is avoiding the appearance of misogyny. Although they tend to take a stand when they're publicly shamed as misogynists, because that shaming tactic is rarely used to identify real misogyny, they are scared shitless of a time when the shaming tactic sticks because there's legitimate misogyny taking place. Often members will take comfort in the fact that they're not the red pill. "Thank god," they think, "thank god we're not the red pill- that den of misogyny that femeninsts, women, and our culture at large disapprove of."
What could possibly be the advantage of wanting the approval of those within the system you are purporting to fight against? The feminine-primary conditioning is so well ingrained into these men that they see no irony in fighting against a feminine-primary establishment while doing everything in their power to appease it.
The misogyny they worry so much about is the very tool of shame and censorship that feminists have had mastered for decades. You can control what men talk about by invading their space and controlling the tone.
And when men are worried about offending women, no progress can be made. You know what the progress is for men's rights? Inherently fucking offensive to women who have abused the pussy pass their entire lives. If I threaten to steal your silver spoon, for sure that idea will be found offensive and that speech will be curtailed.
Believing in Egalitarianism
Rollo writes in great length regarding love and war. An excerpt from one of our required reading pages from the rationalmale:
We want to relax. We want to be open and honest. We want to have a safe haven in which struggle has no place, where we gain strength and rest instead of having it pulled from us. We want to stop being on guard all the time, and have a chance to simply be with someone who can understand our basic humanity without begrudging it. To stop fighting, to stop playing the game, just for a while.
We want to, so badly.
If we do, we soon are no longer able to.
For men, accepting that egalitarianism is a pipe dream means throwing away the idea of an equal partnership with women. One in which he can finally relax and be accepted for who he is.
If feminism is the idea that women not only have the right, but responsibility to shed traditional gender roles, then the juicy, enticing corollary to that is that men should also have the right to shed their roles as well. Who wouldn't want to find comfort in the unconditional love of a woman. Not for your ability to provide or protect, but for being special little you(tm).
It's a fantastically seductive idea that throws aside the nagging reality that all men are taught from birth: you are not a man, you were not born a man, your only value to become a man is in what you can build, provide, or do. And past benefit does not provide future value. You must always be useful, or you are otherwise not.
It doesn't matter if you were president. You keep on going.
But we don't expect that from women. In fact, we don't even think of that for women.
So this egalitarian pipe dream lures men into thinking that maybe a forward-thinking woman would be just like a man: in love with who he is, not what he can do. And he'll quickly find himself sad and alone with such a blue pill dream.
Defining Equality and Dismissing Sexist Inequalities
One of the most devious ways feminists have controlled the men's rights narrative is the call for equality and against sexism. Similar to the accusation of misogyny, the call against sexism paints a very narrow path one must walk to remain righteous in the eyes of those who value equal rights. The very idea behind the argument itself is framed entirely on feminists' terms. In order not to be evil and against equal rights, you must avoid any and all sexism as defined by feminism!
Men, wanting to prove that you can indeed push for men's rights without being evil, adopted this frame and took the torch from there. Their hope: to remain blameless and righteous in the battle for equal rights.
But they didn't start on equal footing, because to accept the feminists' version of equality, you must deny biological realities and accept that men and women are exactly the same. There's no way to make a point that doesn't come to the feminist conclusion when you're using their premises to begin with.
Believing that men and women are the same is the only way to stay on the narrow path of equality, but ignores inherent truths: women can give birth, men cannot. Men are as a group stronger and larger than women. Women have different learning methods than men, and women and men tend to have differing preferences in almost every part of life.
When we deny that any of these ideas can even have a place in the conversation, it's no wonder that nothing of value can be discussed or reached. When feminists frame the entire debate, we find the conclusions can only support the feminist view point.
Why does any of this matter?
Ultimately, the reason it matters is because feminism is a sexual strategy. And although most people don't want to see it this way, there's no denying this reality. Feminism seeks to maximize the collective bargaining power of women, maximize their options and opportunities, and ultimately this comes at the cost of the freedom of men.
Women can unilaterally make the decision to have kids, they can get government assistance, they can force men to pay, they have the force of law behind them, they can imprison men they do not find sexually appealing with false accusations, they can trick men into fatherhood, they can abort if they see fit, and they can commit crimes and violence against men with little to no consequence. These are the outcomes of feminism. There is no way to view it that does not render this a sexual strategy, and a damn good one at that.
So when men mistakenly believe they are stepping outside of this culture and fighting it by joining the cause of men's rights, it might surprise them to find that men's rights is just another branch of feminism, the narrative, speech, and conclusions all controlled by the feminine-primary culture we live in.
And if this is another branch of feminism, a sexual strategy at the cost of men, then there will be no peace or happiness found within its borders.
And there isn't.
So men come here.
A Quick Note on The Direction of the Sub
Some of you may have noticed over the past few weeks we re-enabled posting links. I want to take just a minute to discuss the direction of the content on the sub and the reasoning behind this decision.
I have enjoyed a lot of the content here lately, there's some very good stuff to read, and always new insights daily.
That said, I would like to see more focus on theory, concepts, and ideas, and less on short uninformative anecdotes. While anecdotes are the core of our system of sharing ideas, I would encourage members to save up your stories and anecdotes, and make a post when you've arrived at a cogent conclusion, perhaps including the data of multiple experiences at once as a basis for the conclusions you've drawn.
While it's nice to see confirmation that yes, a woman was friendlier after you insulted her, that's basically seddit 101 stuff, and you're going to need some higher quality analysis than that.
Additionally, I've seen a lot of platitude advice recently and we're going to be removing it on sight. I don't care if we don't have a single new post for 24 hours, I don't want to see any more content that says "Do it for you..."
If you want to post advice, consider if it's already in the side bar, and then consider instead of posting advice, posting your theory and data backing up the theory that made you arrive to the behavior you're using. I don't like imperatives, and it starts looking like a fucking self-help section at the book store when there are posts called "Do XYZ every day."
Direct links have been re-enabled, please make sure to pay attention to our list of blocked domains (including reddit itself). If you see something on a mansophere blog, please do link to it, but include a quote or point the article makes to give us an introduction. Your own analysis is always welcome.
Here's to 110,000 just around the corner! Cheers!