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LTRThe hardest job on the planet (self.TheRedPill)

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EDIT: this is getting way too many upvotes, please down vote it if you like it, I dont want this post to leak outside RP subreddit.

Mother day is here, lets celebrate it by post about poop, crying and vomit. I am stay at home dad of 2 year old, work from home about 20 hours a week (hobby turned into company). Sorry for typos, English is my second language.

I am lazy (and not sure this post wont get deleted due to low karma) so just a few bullet points.

  • baby is delicately balanced machine which loves periodic routine. Throw it off balance and you gonna have bad time.

  • if handled correctly, children will demand at evening to go to bed. They will also ask for food and push you away, if you try to steal food from their plate.

  • children loves periodic routine. Breakfest, play park, lunch, walk, dinner, bath, milk, sleep... Everything should have its time with 20 minutes tolerance. If you break it, it starts negative spiral, at end children might cry constantly, you get sleep deprivation,... and everything turns shit.

  • traditional stuff from books and grandmothers is 50% bullshit. What helps is common sense and variety of sources.

  • most families waste huge money on baby (car seats, beds...). Second hand stuff and Ikea are just fine. Toddler loves wrapping paper more than a toy.

  • really good investment is skilled doula (post-birth supporter, nanny) every day for a few hours for first few weeks/months.

  • children are very sensitive on food change. It is important to keep established diet. Just changing milk brand could cause diphtheria/constipation and start negative spiral.

  • absolutely no sugar, no chocolate, no caffeine and other junk food. Also carefully with medication which affects brain (painkillers), it will fuck up sleep.

  • if somethings goes wrong and children cries constantly, there are about 10 things which cover 99.9% cases. It is important to have good doctor (or two) to catch this early.

  • it is not that expensive. Direct expenses on my toddler are about 400 euro/month.

  • I live at south europe, but I am foreigner here, no bullshit like at west for being single father with kid.

  • dont trust anyone. It is very easy to feed children with wrong stuff, put them into bed wrong way and break the whole system. I have cameras to track babysitters and to find early what is wrong.

  • there is bullshit with breast milk. It is good, but most women do not produce enough milk and children goes to sleep hungry (and cries all night of course). That starts negative spiral...

  • 2 months old can be trained to pee/crap into potty. Saves lot of time on nappy change. (no typo, here is proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw3oLxgdAVY)

  • Dirt is important, too much hygiene starts allergies.

  • have some place at home where you can just drop-off kid for 10 minutes.

  • never ever force feed baby. Better to starve for couple of hours. Very easy to start negative association with food.

  • redditmoose: another important thing: If your kid falls over or scratches themselves - DO NOT PANIC. This is what turns your kid into a whiny self-absorbed little bitch. You teach them to take a look at it, decide if it needs attention, and if not keep going.

Now why I am writing this here. Most people here probably think that heaving children is really bad etc... But the real problem is that children usually comes attached with women, relationship, financial demand... If you bypass all that stuff like me, and just swap kid for ipad (just kidding), it is surprisingly easy.

I would compare taking care of children to farm work. It requires planning, preparation and good timing. But once you get routine started it just keeps rolling. There is no reason why women should be better at this. I would even argue that men are better at it, but they are not allowed to participate, due to rat race.

Anyway, being raised by single mother has very strong correlation with broken future life (prison, drugs...). It has stronger correlation than race, nationality, religion...

I think most women say this is hardest job on planet because:

  • they broke their children and it cries constantly.

  • returning at 1AM from party? Good luck, no sleep for next week.

  • they are just plain stupid.

For illustration I have 3 stories about my friend, she is pediatrician, have 3 years old, but works with older kids.

  • She did not have cot for toddler at living room. Baby would crawl at kitchen/living room while she was cooking or working. Had to keep an eye on it constantly. I just dump mine into cot and pick it up every 20 minutes for short game.

  • 20 month old had really bad constipation, constant cry. No medication or doctor advice would help. I restored kid back to normal in two days. It is really hard to poop into nappy while you are standing. Sitting in toilet makes it much easier. But for some bullshit reason baby at this age should not sit on potty yet.

  • her kid was vomiting about once a week. It started being fussy about food. She could not even tell what children eat during day, it was at grandma, kindergarten and at home. Three different places with totally different foods. Solution was to prepare meal every day at home and keep track what is causing vomiting.

TLDR: single father with kid giving some tips. It is not that hard if women is not ruining it.

EDIT: added link to video for 2 months old potty training.

EDIT: added tip from redditnose


[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 117 points118 points  (9 children)

Holy shit.

Write a book. Be detailed. Fuck, I'll even edit it if your language is hindering you.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (7 children)

Sorry. I already have a well paid job and prefer to keep low profile. It is sensitive subject. Also all I got is here, other stuff is in general books.

[–]NikoMyshkin 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Can you name some books that you hold on high regard?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Non in English, sorry.

[–]KaptainKrunch 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hell man tell us the non english and well make do

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You could always write it under a pseudonym or pen name. Use the same tactics as field reports and fudge the details but keep the content relevant.

[–]Code_Bordeauxx 10 points11 points  (2 children)

The fact that you've got Archwinger impressed with your writing seems like an achievement on itself... I'd strongly consider writing that book, be it under a pseudonym. Appreciate the post, will use this knowledge later in life. Downvoted as requested.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I'm a father myself. I wish I had thought of half of this. And told my wife to fuck of years ago.

[–]Code_Bordeauxx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you ever written (or considered writing) anything about your experiences as a father or with parenting? I know there is a special sub for that, but a detailled experience story of a true patriarch in the main sub would be a breath of fresh air considering all the plate spinning stories. Many of us still have ambitions to become a father one day, and it seems we can use all the help and advice we can get.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

^ Do it. We need experienced field reports for, us, future dads!

[–][deleted] 244 points245 points  (8 children)

I have been on the internet since 1995 and never been given a good summary post like this on what having kids entails. While I think women are generally better than men at emotional support for children, it is most definitely not rocket science. Thanks.

[–]OverdoseOfRedPill 12 points13 points  (6 children)

While I think women are generally better than men at emotional support for children

Women can make or break a kid by spoiling it or interfering with dad's parenting style. Its best to be a single father if you can afford it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 71 points72 points  (1 child)

Its best to be a single father if you can afford it.

Single dad is usually better than a single mom, but not better than a whole family. Appropriate username.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I really enjoyed having 2 parents but they were respectful of each other's parenting styles and neither were afraid to support or discipline when I needed it. It can work but it takes a good team to make it happen.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If your parents are still around, make sure to reach out to them today and father's day. Do a little something, doesn't matter, just something.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I just called my mom because of your comment. She was ecstatic. Thanks man.

[–]jakethesnake76 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No,mostly women don't make good parents..And are dangerous around kids without a man to defend the children..

[–]averageredpill 106 points107 points  (0 children)

Kudos for sharing this. Not many redpillers are single fathers and this is a great insight about having kids.

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (2 children)

Great list. I would point out that before the industrial revolution most men spent a lot of time with their kids.

Around 90% of the population lived in agriculture and there was no day care or dropping kids off at grandmas. Grandma lived with them and the kids helped dad out as soon as they were old enough. The livestock requires the farmer to be on a schedule. Cows need milking twice a day. Chickens need feed in the morning. Horses need to be let out to graze and their stalls mucked out.

All of this creates a natural rhythm that only changes slightly as the season change and the sun rises and sets at different times.

In the winter there was often 12 hours of dark. That meant that people spent a lot of time inside together. This meant several hours of socialization where male and female children learned how to interact by watching their parents. Even in non-agriculture households the family was often together most of the time. Many businesses were "cottage industries" where the family worked in their home to make shoes and tools etc. The same would apply here.

But then came industrialization which forced men out of the home for 12 to 14 hours a day. This was the beginning of the downfall of males because once separated it's easier for women to conclude that men aren't really parents or capable of the same parental nature that women think they have.

It wasn't until the 1900's that the mass migration of agriculture started to head towards the cities.

A few years after that women got the vote.

About 50 years later we invented birth control, air conditioning, and computers, and women suddenly felt they were being oppressed because they couldn't abandon their families and pursue their own happiness (at everyone else's expense).

But I digress. The point is that men are just as capable and in some ways superior at being parents than women are.

One big difference that I've seen in my lifetime is that men raise their children to prepare them to go out into the world and be adults.

Women raise their children to be susceptible to their control and while they may leave some day they will never loose that conditioning.

[–]redzorp 15 points16 points  (0 children)

"One big difference that I've seen in my lifetime is that men raise their children to prepare them to go out into the world and be adults.

Women raise their children to be susceptible to their control and while they may leave some day they will never loose that conditioning."

That is spot one. Absolute truth. Bears repeating.

[–]trp_angry_dwarf[🍰] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Holy shit. That last paragraph. Another red pill bomb went off in my head.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 140 points141 points  (1 child)

Its a breath of fresh air to read a baby manual written by a man. Woman have an enfless need to self endorse, over complicate and emotionaly masterbate which makes their writing a chore.

[–]MelodyMyst 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It doesn't do much for their conversational abilities either.

[–]wanderer779 59 points60 points  (12 children)

men don't have breasts. That is the main advantage. And most babies I've seen prefer their mother for comfort.

I have a 1 year old and my GF recently got a book about tdddlers. One thing they said which I agree with is that no one is meant to raise a child by themselves. That is where the saying, "it takes a village" came from. Now we got rid of the village, and since that was still kind of working we decided to select super hard mode and get rid of the men too.

Imagine some researchers going to study a tribe in the amazon or somewhere and encountering something like this. A tribe first decides that instead of living in a group they will all live in separate houses and have nothing to do with each other. Then they decide to kick all the men out of the houses. Now you've just doubled everyone's work because you have to pay for two houses, prepare two meals, pay twice the utilities (this is an advanced tribe). And no one is there to talk to because you are surrounded by strangers who could care less about you. Hmmm, I wonder why everyone is stressed out?

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (10 children)

Twice the labor force, twice the housing, twice the meals, twice the utilities and everything else?

Sounds like twice the GDP.

[–]1laserdicks 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Twice the GDP going into the same amount of (potential) demand. Doesn't seem very efficient to me.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Ten loners require substantially more resources than two cohesive groups of five. The multiplier is more like 1.5-ish, rather than 2. The less social support you have, the more you need to pay to obtain for the corporate variety.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Let's compare a hypothetical world were everyone lives together with only the husband working, to a hypothetical world where everyone is single and everyone works.

If everyone becomes single, supply of labor doubles, yet demand for labor doesn't quite double: two people living apart don't consume twice as much food as two people living together, for instance.

If supply of labor increases faster than demand of labor increases, workers will generally earn less.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You're right, it's not a strict multiplier of 2. Twice the housing is needed, yes, and twice the meals are needed, but twice the food is not. But it's still a substantial increase.

And, assuming everyone works, you really do get twice the labor for free (the same total cost as before). Everyone wins, as long as you're not a socially isolated worker—you know, the vast majority.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Everyone wins, in a hypothetically perfect economy. In the real economy, one might well argue that corporations mostly win. After all, wages have stagnated while supply of labor has doubled, leading to loss of purchasing power.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you expect otherwise, when corporations have the vote?

[–]wanderer779 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I read something recently about how GDP measuring got started and how the original intent had been lost. I can't find it now, but if you go to the wikipedia page on GDP the first thing it says under history is that the originator of the concept "warned against its use as a measure of welfare."

I am not an economist but my understanding is that if I hire someone to build me a house and then hire someone else to tear it down the next day, that increases GDP. My point is that just using up labor and materials doesn't guarantee that we are improving our standards of living. Splitting a family up so that everyone has to work twice as hard for the same thing is madness.

[–]ToshiroOzuwara 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Twice the taxes. You're missing that crucial point.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not with our current progressive-tax system wherein the more you make, the more you pay. Not all taxes have tax brackets, but most of the significant ones do, either explicitly or implicitly.

[–][deleted] 80 points81 points  (10 children)

They are just stupid

This, and they don't have a well-planned, logical bone in their body. That kid will grow up to be a champion due to you. I used to get along with my mum best, but since all the Red Pill stuff, I've made up with my dad and started to take his view more. Mother recognises she's lost me and doesn't contact me as much anymore. Likely because I'm not as easily controlled and I've started acting more like my dad.

I will not suffer from psychological issues voluntarily.

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      [–]Prinz_von_Kirchberg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      The best choices I made in life were not to listen to my mom and my sisters. And have long interesting sunday dog walks with my dad.

      [–]SpinPlates 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I once worked in a restaurant with an all female staff except for me (bartender) and 2 male managers.

      I learned so much about women in the 2 years I worked there. I went from being okay with woman to manipulation master.

      [–]entelechy_ 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      I resonate with this. So. Hard.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Just think of the possible Norman Bates scenario you dodged, before it became too late.

      [–]BigTimeStuff1 14 points15 points  (7 children)

      Breast milk is an absolute MUST for healthy development. If the mother is an exception and doesn't produce enough, then that is a different story. Otherwise formula is a terrible, unhealthy (not to mention $$ rather than free) mistake prior to 6-12 months of age.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Breast milk is an absolute MUST for healthy development.

      If women is healthy and preferably young, yes. If not, there are many catches (including woman health). I would strongly recommend to breast feed until 3 months, even longer if possible.

      Formula is mostly fine, but milk is important for bacteria.

      [–]ham_and_cheese 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Breast milk is also important for neural development, development of a healthier metabolism, etc. Duration of breast feeding is strongly correlated with a variety of developmental markers.

      [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

      That's total BS, it's not a MUST. My kids drank formula and they are fine. The only negative aspect of formula is yes, it's not free, but then again neither is the tit.

      [–]BigTimeStuff1 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      Lets see...

      Infant Advantages...

      Enhanced immunity (decreased URI, UTI, NEC, meningitis, diarrhea, sepsis, allergies/asthma/atopy), Decreased disease (SIDS, diabetes, cancer, hypercholesterolemia, adolescent obesity, asthma), Enhanced performance on cognitive tests, Maternal bonding, Ideal temperature, Free

      Maternal advantages...

      More rapid recovery from delivery, Earlier return to pre-pregnancy weight, Decreased ovarian and breast cancer, Decreased osteoporosis, Increased spacing between children b/c prolactin levels

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You're just spewing what you've read like every other baby-boomer.

      The WHO has published comprehensive reviews of the "breastfeeding is superior is so many ways" evidence and has repeatedly found nothing. They even state that medical journals are replete with contradictory evidence.

      [–]betterdeadthanblue 63 points64 points  (12 children)

      Women are bad at management, discipline, consistency, and being decisive. They are good at teaching and nurturing kids emotionally. Actually caring for the child's physical needs is best done by someone who is disciplined and decisive.

      [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (1 child)

      I would agree, but that does not mean that fathers are not good at teaching and nurturing. And it is very hard to be nurturing if you have not slept for 3 days.

      [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

      Which is why I personally believe instead of saving for a house, people are wiser to spend their money to take a few years off both the dad and the mom to raise the child with full attention as a real team.
      What's more important, a house or spending time with your kid in one of its most sensible stages?
      This is kind of ranty, but again modern culture baffles me.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      I taught my kids more than their mother ever did, and she had them for 15 years. She simply didn't care about them, they were a sour e of income. Now that they aren't a money maker, they are both cut from her life.

      Somehow I am still at fault, and she is the victim.

      [–]betterdeadthanblue 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      And I'm sure that not an uncommon occurrence, but it has a lot to do with culture and perhaps less to do with inherent nature. I would say it is against the 'natural order' for women to abandon, disregard, and not care for their young.

      People today to love to disregard conservative ideals and try to act like their progressive thinking has led them to some kind of enlightenment, but they just stick their heads further and further up their own asses. Back in the day, even if a woman was completely solipsistic, narcissistic, and hypergamous to a T, their worth and value were derived from their mothering and parenting ability. It benefitted the mother's social standing to produce intelligent, respectful children. I believe that women have evolved to be caretakers of the young. I know girls who have caring tendencies that are completely foreign to me. I don't mistake it for selflessness or altruism, but rather a biochemical response to young of the species. Without that innate drive, species would go extinct. Perhaps our fucked up culture is selecting against that tendency.

      Look at the crisis in the black community, the epidemic of single mothers and the animals they create. Single mothers are the absolute worst, most dysfunctional parents on the planet, yet no other group gets more pats on the back and praise in the media. They should be ashamed of their failure, not celebrated for it. before anyone gets their panties in a hot tangle, I don't absolve fathers of the blame, I am simply recognizing that the single mothers do a shit job of raising their children.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      She is bipolar, and either hid it well for the first year or had onset at 21. She wanted to be in charge, take all credit, spend all the money I made, but not actually earn or do anything.

      Most single moms I know think of the kids as a burden. My sister dumped her kid on my mom so she could go party and get laid. My neice is a fucking trainwreck now at 22, and my sister is fucking up her other two kids. Her son acts like a serial killer, in other words a lot like I used to but far worse. All she does is scream at them, all the time. If she's not screaming she is belittling them. She is next after me, and was moms favorite, she was given everything and was never punished for anything. I rarely talk to her.

      Sadly she is typical, not the exception.

      [–]betterdeadthanblue 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Sound like you've had some pretty poor experiences, but you can't take anecdotal evidence and try to apply it to the population. Maybe if you want to say she is a typical single mom, then I could stand behind that a bit more, but I personally know tons of moms (with husbands) who are great mothers to their children even if their husbands are hapless betas. Some of that is growing up around religion, where you are still shamed for being a trashy slut and encouraged to care for and raise your children morally. Regardless of your opinion on religion, it is very useful for preventing the baser instincts of humanity from degrading society.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Oh, you need to defend all single moms then. Go with the NAWALT argument. Sure, about that. There is this thing called observation, it builds up over time. The more you see it happen, the more you realize it's common. The sun comes up every day, you can observe that and predict it. Single moms are very often just like my sister, she is but one example of many like her. There are so many like her that it is uncommon for a single mom to not be like her. Divorced and remarried moms often act the same ways.

      Outward appdarances of women are often incorrect, because women are extremely concerned with status and appearance. What they do when nobody is looking shows their true nature. My experiences are from inside their world, dating them, being related, and the results of them trusting me. They show their true selves, and the kids are most often a detriment to her happiness and freedom.

      Sure religion can help curb feminine traits, but it's also at the core of many completely fucked up events and injustices. It does far more harm than good. It is also the basis for the absolutely fucked up divorce laws that punish men regardless of if they are good or bad.

      Besides the fact that religion is based on myth, conjecture, and a fabricated idea of how the world works (as is feminism) it is devisive, destructive, and morally corrupt because anything can be justified by "god wills it" or answered by "god did it" and forcing everyone to live a life entirely based on mythical sky faries, even if it manages to get a precious few things about human nature correct, is simply absurd.

      Heroin and cocaine are useful for medical purposes, but to use them as the answer for everything is ludicrous. The same can be said for religion. It causes more harm than good, and any good it happens to have is not due to religion itself. That good can, will, and has been part of societies with and without religion over the million or so years of human existence. Name any one thing that religion alone provides as a good thing that doesn't or cannot exist in a non religious group. Good luck with that. Now name bad things that are justified by religion, that is infinitely easier to do. How about slavery, or perhaps genocide, straight up murder because they don't believe in the same invisible friends? That alone destroys your assertion that religion prevents the baser instincts.

      I prefer to live my life based on facts, observation, testing, and correct information, not made up bullshit that incompetently tries to explain why it rains, or why the earth shakes. Bronze age myths have no place today other than a source of amusement.

      [–]betterdeadthanblue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Oh, you need to defend all single moms then. Go with the NAWALT argument. Sure, about that. There is this thing called observation, it builds up over time. The more you see it happen, the more you realize it's common. The sun comes up every day, you can observe that and predict it. Single moms are very often just like my sister, she is but one example of many like her. There are so many like her that it is uncommon for a single mom to not be like her. Divorced and remarried moms often act the same ways

      Typically I agree with what you're saying, but I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying here. I agree with you, and have in my comments. Single moms are pretty much always bad mothers. In fact that was a major point in my previous comment. I think perhaps I misunderstood the intent of your comment. My point is that not all mothers do not care for their children. My observation has been that mothers care for their children as a general rule, and without this instinct the species would most like have gone extinct many years ago. not that they do it for altruistic reasons or that it is a conscious decision of sacrifice, but that it is a chemical response. It sounds like we have had different experiences in this area.

      Sure religion can help curb feminine traits, but it's also at the core of many completely fucked up events and injustices. It does far more harm than good. It is also the basis for the absolutely fucked up divorce laws that punish men regardless of if they are good or bad.

      Besides the fact that religion is based on myth, conjecture, and a fabricated idea of how the world works (as is feminism) it is devisive, destructive, and morally corrupt because anything can be justified by "god wills it" or answered by "god did it" and forcing everyone to live a life entirely based on mythical sky faries, even if it manages to get a precious few things about human nature correct, is simply absurd.

      Oh please, trying to pretend like religion is at fault for people using it as a tool of manipulation (as if manipulation, violence, etc.are not inherent to human nature) is the same faulty line of logic that would allow you to blame capitalism or nationalism or socialism or communism for the wrong's done in their name, with the same self-righteous justification absolving themselves of blame in their own mind. The history of religion is just the history of people trying to use a tool to exert power of the minds of the general populace, and it is a powerful and effective method of doing so.

      Heroin and cocaine are useful for medical purposes, but to use them as the answer for everything is ludicrous. The same can be said for religion. It causes more harm than good, and any good it happens to have is not due to religion itself. That good can, will, and has been part of societies with and without religion over the million or so years of human existence. Name any one thing that religion alone provides as a good thing that doesn't or cannot exist in a non religious group. Good luck with that. Now name bad things that are justified by religion, that is infinitely easier to do. How about slavery, or perhaps genocide, straight up murder because they don't believe in the same invisible friends? That alone destroys your assertion that religion prevents the baser instincts.

      Dude you're projecting a lot of ideologies onto me, and I am not sure where it is coming from. I can only assume you have had some particularly terrible experiences with religion and religious people, while I have had the opposite. I do not consider myself religious, in fact I find religious ceremony and blind adherence to a set of arbitrary rules to be ridiculous. I think religion will continue to decline in this country. I think people should learn and judge for themselves. What I have observed, however, is that of the religious people I have met in my part of the country, the vast majority have been really great people. Conservative, traditional, subscribing to gender roles, frowning upon promiscuity, promoting patriarchal ideals, and providing resources and services to the church communities that they create. The opposite of the liberal feminist 'progressives' I deal with on a day to day basis. The men who I lifted and went the shooting range and fished with all went to church on sunday and had wives of ~15 years.

      I prefer to live my life based on facts, observation, testing, and correct information, not made up bullshit that incompetently tries to explain why it rains, or why the earth shakes. Bronze age myths have no place today other than a source of amusement.

      I agree, I have a PhD in an engineering discipline. Living life according to fact and objective observation are the basis of the red pill. Religion has been the commonality and building block of some very nice communities that I have experienced. I think it is a lifestyle that while not my taste, has carved a nice niche in some segments of society. Maybe if I were gay or a kurd or something I would feel differently.

      [–]malariasucks 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Toddler loves wrapping paper more than a toy.

      so true. We've only bought 5 toys in the first year, along with some gifts and he still loves random shit instead of his actual toys

      [–]Royalartist 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      Great post! I was a single father too. I raised three girls after useless wife left. Aged ten to a baby. We had lots of fun, it was hardly a job and all three are doing well in life (I now have four grandchildren.) I did work at home which was a major help. biggest surprise was how easy it is to do laundry. Their useless mother complained constantly how hard she worked at laundry. there was literally nothing to it. Still haven't figured her out on that one.

      [–]ChadThundercockII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Their useless mother complained constantly how hard she worked at laundry.

      True. They always complain, but when you do the thing you find it is easy as fuck. Laundry, cleaning and cooking is easy and a committed man can do them in less time.

      [–]Air4ce1 6 points7 points  (3 children)

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        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        I tried watching Louis again about half a year after coming here and just couldn't stand it anymore.

        [–]redpillthrower 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The self degrading humor, the pro woman rhetoric, the pure blue pillness of it. I still find it funny but i was watching his show the other day and this chick literally rapes him and they just play it off cool and decide to go out again and i'm sitting there like what the fuck..

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        Second hand stuff and Ikea are just fine.

        It's insane the stupid money people will pay trying to smugly showcase what a great parent they are... When we brought our first son home, we didn't have a fancy cradle. We put him in a sock drawer. He lived.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Many people in Finland were raised in cardboard box.

        http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22751415

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I work at a pet store. Everything is insanely priced and people buy this shit. The otherday someone bought a measuring cup priced at 10$

        [–]-Quotidian 21 points22 points  (0 children)

        I was kind of put off by your grammar, but once I got used to your style of writing I was surprised by how much sense you were making. I grew up in a huge, almost clannish family network and have been around infants at every major stage of my development.

        So the importance of dirt, avoiding junk food, wasted money, and teaching them where to crap all rings true. When we were younger, my brothers and I tried convincing our parents to buy us a bunch of boxes so we could make a box-fort, but we were too young to articulate this and everyone wound up being really confused.

        I'd be interested in reading more. The typical attitude here is to avoid marriage and children, but I'd rather avoid an entitled wife.

        [–]Senior ContributorRedPope 10 points11 points  (10 children)

        I wrote an article almost a year ago, titled "The Greatest of All Parents are Men"

        Your "average dad" defers parenting to his wife, so that he can focus on providing greater security to the whole family. He willingly surrenders that space to her.

        But when a man CHOOSES to be a father, when parenting becomes his PRIORITY, no woman can match him.

        My argument, put simply, is that a determined man will surpass women, even in the most feminine of skills.

        Read the rest here: r/TheRedPill/comments/20slzv/the_greatest_of_all_parents_are_men

        I'll also point you towards /r/RedPillParenting, but it isn't very active.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

        My argument, put simply, is that a determined man will surpass women, even in the most feminine of skills.

        Like dancing, make up, fashion...? :-)

        [–]skoobled 12 points13 points  (8 children)

        The majority of major fashion designers are (gay) men. The majority of founders of major cosmetics brands are also (gay?) men. So basically, as long as a man is interested (being gay helps here) he can succeed

        Almost all famous professional chefs? Also men

        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        hypolactation is caused by low fat diet

        [–]Shiningknight12 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        there is bullshit with breast milk. It is good, but most women do not produce enough milk and children goes to sleep hungry (and cries all night of course). That starts negative spiral...

        Typically the solution to this is just to mix the breast milk with formula.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Another important thing: If your kid falls over or scratches themselves - DO NOT PANIC. This is what turns your kid into a whiny self-absorbed little bitch. You teach them to take a look at it, decide if it needs attention, and if not keep going.

        [–]tedcase 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        I read all of this in Dr Nick's voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqImkDgDwHU

        Still a great read.

        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Wonderful post.
        Finally some good intel that isn't something else regarding women. (completely)

        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

        The reason women are generally caretakers of babies is not because they're better at it. The reason they're often caretakers is that biologically speaking you need a man and a women to create a child, and women suck more at providing for the child than they do at babysitting it. So they babysit, despite having more trouble with providing consistency and being firm and predictable than a man would have.

        As a comparison, if professionally you're forced to work with an idiot on an important project, then you may want to give him a task that he's relatively decent at (babysitting). However, that doesn't mean that he's in fact better at that task than you are. It means that he's even worse at the other task that you're doing (providing).

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          [–]LittleHelperRobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Non-mobile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage

          That's why I'm here, I don't judge you. PM /u/xl0 if I'm causing any trouble. WUT?

          [–]_bluerabbit_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          If i may ask what happen to the mother?

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          She changed her mind about the whole thing, she still visits.

          [–]1CowardlyPetrov 2 points3 points  (7 children)

          How exactly are you supposed to bypass women to get children? Single men can't adopt and so far I have found that terminally ill women are not easy lays.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          Divorce, adoption, surrogate mother. At west it is probably easiest to declare you are gay and find likely minded partner.

          [–]1CowardlyPetrov 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          Divorce is the opposite of bypassing women.

          Where I live and most western countries that I know of single men CAN'T adopt children. Only couples (even gay ones) or single women can. Basically, anyone can except for single men.

          Surrogate mother sounds implausible to me, but it's something I haven't considered so thank you for this new line of inquiry.

          Maybe pretending to be gay can work, but it is not a method I am willing to undertake.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Build a 1000 bridges and have one Gay marriage and now you are a cock sucker.

          [–]1CowardlyPetrov -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          What? I have no idea what you are talking about.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Single men cannot adopt? TIL

          [–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          terminally ill women are not easy lays.

          You are into something here. We should look into it.

          [–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Always thought that was funny. Let's be real, first year analysts at investment banks and military special operations have it thrice as hard as mothers.

          [–]RP_Vergil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I love this post.

          Hollywood has been painting a bad picture of single dads in the likes of either "Afraid babies are fragile arnie" to "overly serious vin diesel".

          How is it that man who's more logically thinking than a Womyn can't take care of their own offspring better?

          Sometimes I feel man are being marginalized as "lousy babysitters" so as not to put woman in shame.

          [–]skoobled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          The idea that women have some inate ability for child care is bullshit: in the past it was their clear primary responsibility, so lots to time/practice, plus with the advice of experienced extended family members. Men would be working, so hey presto it seems like women have this magical ability, but it's just another learned skill

          Nowadays without these prerequisites women are as lost as I would be, thrown into this role. But they believe they have this ability naturally. They don't. It's all just practical skills up to a point, and it's men who are better suited to quickly acquiring necessary practical skills.

          Excellent post OP. By the way, English is fine but you could work on your subject/verb agreement (I play, he plays, we play) to improve :)

          [–]sirmadam 10 points11 points  (15 children)

          How on Earth do you get a 2 month old to shit in a potty? The bloody thing can't put it's head up right yet and yet here you are potty training the bloody thing. What's that smell?! I think it's bullshit.

          [–]t0mbstone 23 points24 points  (9 children)

          [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          That's an attractive, feminine woman.... And the feminists want to take it away.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          She seems to know her shit man

          [–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          That's why MILF is a thing. Men will o after the feminine and nurturing woman if they are in their right minds. I personally love them attractive, feminine and nurturing bitches.

          [–]skiduck 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          thank you for this. i was--- in a word.....skeptical

          [–]sirmadam -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

          To start with, holding a kid over the sink isn't potty training. Also, shit in the sink…are you kidding me? I brush my teeth in there!!!

          [–]Redpillc0re 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          i think he might mean 20 months, what he mentions later.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          2 months old, even sooner if baby is bigger.

          [–]Deresetese -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          The toddler doesn't do it by itself. Really, it's just reacting to signals that the child gives when it has to shit. Then you put it over a pot and somehow comfort it so it does.

          [–]SpinEbO 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Good on you for doing it how you do it.

          I'm a (former) male kindergarten teacher (yeah seriously), and I can only understand your situation.

          In my experiences women also lack patience with children. Often they don't care to explain children the situation when they don't behave, and lose control when they get stressed.

          Men on the other hand are laid back and just let kids be kids. I mean there are boundaries for everyone, but people were shocked when I told them, that (eg) the twins keep fighting each other all the time. They were laughing and having a good time jumping onto each other. So where is the problem with that as long as no one gets hurt?

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          It is not common worldwide, just west is overprotective.

          [–]ToshiroOzuwara 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Our women in the West are encouraged to be neurotic all the time.

          [–]OverdoseOfRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I would even argue that men are better at it, but they are not allowed to participate, due to rat race.

          Truer words have never been spoken

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          it is not that expensive. Direct expenses on my toddler are about 400 euro/month - I see really great sport car for lease 400mth

          [–]A_DERPING_ULTRALISK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          You sound like the Cesar Milan of children.

          I'd watch that TLC show.

          [–]Snlseanconnery 5 points6 points  (11 children)

          2 months old can be trained to pee/crap into potty. Saves lot of time on nappy change.

          A 2 month old can barely lift his head. A baby that age most certainly cannot go to a potty.

          [–]heli_elo 8 points9 points  (9 children)

          He did not say the baby can crawl itself to the toilet, but it can most certainly learn to release while being held over a toilet. It's called elimination communication and it legitimately works.

          Source: my 3 month old poops after every nap while I hold him over a little potty.

          [–]PlanB_pedofile 1 point2 points  (8 children)

          I take it timed routine helps? Does the lil one know how to hold or does frequency reduce off hour eliminating?

          [–]heli_elo 4 points5 points  (6 children)

          He does not know how to hold but luckily he is extremely regular. The only time he really goes in a diaper is when we're out and about during his afternoon naps. (We're talking poo here, I definitely do not catch every wet diaper yet) My son seriously shits 3 times pretty much every day and it's always after he just wakes up. The morning is the easiest because as soon as he wakes up we head to the bathroom then bath time. We were prepared for 9 full months of maternity leave and I'm determined to have him potty trained before I return to work.

          He also always does the exact same thing leading up to it... He'll want to nurse but then keep detaching and looking off into the distance and kicks his legs. I imagine if you had a baby with intestinal irregularities or who didn't give such obvious physical cues it may be harder. Or maybe it's the other way around... We've been doing EC since he was 2 weeks old. He has peed literally every single time I have ever put him on the potty but it took me a while to perfect his poo schedule. He very well could be doing these movements intentionally to alert me.

          [–]PlanB_pedofile 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Mine pees a lot but poops every other day. Though the pee can be predictable with start of waking up and 10 minutes after feeding. However there's randoms in between. The poop is unpredictable unfortunately due to being every other day and usually needs to be coaxed from playing and leg activity.

          I never heard of potty training before walking but logically makes sense. Kids need routine and potty actions are another routine like bedtime and feeding.

          [–]heli_elo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I've read that using sign language and teaching them to communicate early is helpful. If they aren't walking yet the only way to be "trained" is to alert you when they are ready to go, the only training is being aware of when they are releasing their bowels rather than doing it absent-mindedly if that makes sense. Some people use noise association rather than sign language, teaching babies to release when they hear a certain sound.

          [–]Snlseanconnery -1 points0 points  (3 children)

          He does not know how to hold but luckily he is extremely regular.

          Knowing when he needs to go and then holding him over the toilet is not the same as being potty trained. My son will be 2 months old in 3 days. There is no chance he can be trained by then. Newborns sleep too much for it to be possible.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Excuses are the nails in the house of failure.

          [–]heli_elo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I did not say he was potty trained. I agree that I am the one who is trained right now, not him. That said there are 9 month olds who ARE legitimately potty trained. It's not easy, and it won't be perfect, but it is a reasonable goal.

          As for sleeping too much, my son has always taken 2 very distinct naps. Morning and afternoon, then sleeps from 730pm to 8am waking once or twice to nurse. Having a good day time nap schedule is the key to a good nights sleep.

          [–]torodinson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          There it's a video in this thread saying it is very possible.

          [–]Rhunta 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Any book that may help when I have kids?

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Not in English. I read about 20 books and did some cross referencing. But most stuff I got from doula, relatives and pediatrician.

          [–]sivadnar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          experienced dad here. Much of what you say is absolutely true. However mother's intuition is very real especially with newborns and infants. If you doubt this its because you haven't experienced it.

          After about age 2 discipline and logic take over, which is where men shine.

          [–]Venicedreaming 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          I don't know man, both of my grandmothers lost their husbands when their kids were very young, like 10 years old or younger young. Each had at least 5 kids. The entire family from each side grew up quite well and educated, everyone is successful now. All the uncles and aunts deeply respect their mothers and contributed much of their success to their mothers' sacrifices. Both grandmas never remarried, figured out the merchant business and thrived, had the kids' best interest at heart. That is push of maternal bond, going to great length to give your kids the best life you could. They put many deadbeats fathers to shame. In the dating market, the RP theory holds due to expiring SMV, but in the maternal area, females are pretty good. For every bad mother, you could name about 10x worse fathers. Just how you say AWALT, men are pretty similar in their fatherhood attitudes.

          [–]anonymau5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          What's the copy paste about the mother licking the baby shit off of her finger? Anybody have that saved somewhere?

          [–]skiduck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          its probably a typo, but i would be surprised as fuck if you could potty train a 2 month old

          EDIT: U/t0mbstone has posted a relevant video-apparently it is possible !! wow. well done, OP

          [–]henry-jest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Can you recommend some good books, about how to become a good parent?

          [–]AntixD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          you seem like such a great father,lucky child

          [–]chinawinsworlds 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Very nice OP. Downvoted as requested. I honestly don't think it's anywhere the hardest job though!

          [–]1jimjackjoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'm pretty sure the title is sarcastic. At least that's how I took it.

          [–]platinum_peter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Spot on! Thank you for sharing!

          [–]1CowardlyPetrov 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          LOL so downvote all the best RP posts?

          [–]Modredpillschool 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          It's opposite day!

          [–]1CowardlyPetrov 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I downvoted as requested... not sure if I understand or if it's just a joke.

          [–]ColoredPaperPieces 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You are exaggerating the routine and sleep part a lot. One week without sleep because you broke some routine? That's your child's thing bro, mine don't do that. Children have a very wide range of behavior.

          [–]the_bridgeburner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You sir have my respect. If I could I'd give you gold. But then that's really an empty gesture. If I cross paths with you in real life I'll buy you a drink!

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Is there a book that you can recommend on this subject?

          [–]87GNX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Absolutely bookmarking this post.

          [–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Funny thing is, I don't even believe women find it to be difficult. I've noticed that they'll even say washing the dishes is difficult if it'll assist them in an argument.

          I've known single mothers with 3+ children before and they seem to be doing fine. Apparently the most difficult part is finding a babysitter if you're trying to work or have an actual life.

          Either way, I don't like kids very much. So being a single father is even less appealing to me than getting into an LTR with a single mother.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Write it, "Adventures of a single dad, the easiest job on the planet"

          [–]anti_erection_man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This really enforces my wish at some point to make a kid that I would raise by myself.

          [–]SilentForTooLong -1 points0 points  (2 children)

          The main source for that single mother thing was a very questionable study done by the Koch brothers to drive a political agenda... or that is the only one that I've seen.

          Happen to have any others?

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          I dont even have that study. Just something I read on internet + anecdotal evidence.

          [–]SilentForTooLong -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

          K. It's almost certainly false then. Figure you should at least know that.

          [–]Killigraphy -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

          False, the hardest job in the world is neurological microsurgery of the brain. Zero margin for error.

          [–]whatgold -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

          DO NOT FEED A CHILD (or any human) MILK FROM A COW

          No shit the child would get constipation. We're not meant to drink this stuff.

          Human milk is low in protein for a reason. Cow's milk is the fast track to illness.

          absolutely no sugar

          Feed child as much fruit as he/she wants. They love it for a reason, quit thinking you're smarter than nature.

          there is bullshit with breast milk. It is good, but most women do not produce enough milk

          No shit the diet of most western women is complete garbage.

          [–]1Anti-Hubbard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Nonsense. I come from a long line of dairy farmers and drank milk with almost every meal growing up. I played American football, hockey, lacrosse, and baseball as a kid, and even took up martial arts when I went to college. I have also never broken a single bone, because MILK.

          Milk can make people feel sick if they aren't used to it (and will cause actual digestive problems if they are lactose intolerant), but if you drink it on a regular basis your digestive system will adapt even if it disagrees with you at first. This is true of many other foods as well. Keep your diet balanced and consistent, and your body will adapt to it.