Men's RightsFacebook chat records in court document shows the whole story in "mattress girl" false college rape case (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by someguysomewhere321

Some of you might have heard about the college student Emma Sulkowicz, who falsely accused her friend with benefits of rape and parlayed her false victimhood into an SJW art performance by carrying a mattress around campus to boost her career prospects and to get rid of her slut status.

The falsely accused kept a low profile for a long time, however he recently filed a lawsuit against Colombia University in which he alleged that the university supported his false accuser and in turn created a hostile environment for him, while potentially ruining future career prospects as well.

Here are some relevant excerpts from the court document:

Emma s Intimate Conversations with Paul

Paul’s relationship with Emma began platonically. They were just friends

On December 16, 2011, Emma sent private Facebook messenger messages as a friend to Paul, asking him to speak with Emma’s sexual partner, John Doe, on her behalf, to urge John Doe to use condoms when he had sex with women other than Emma

The conversation, in relevant part, is as follows

Emma: John Doe and i are all cool - hahahah - i was excited.

Paul: Ah thanks god good to hear - so wats da nuse

Emma: He and i went to an art opening and tacos tonight - and we talked it out - like im not gonna force him to be exclusive but i was like just use condoms with other girls - so yeah - he’ll use condoms if he fucks other girls.

Paul: . . its just i mean im glad you talked it out and stuff and im not the one trying to kill the boner here but how are you gonna have any idea whether he actually uses a condom with other girls or not

Emma: eah i realize that’s true - i mean there’s a lot of faith involved i feel like he needs another boy to tell him to use condoms can you, in like your next bro talk, just be like yo, use condoms when you luck other girls

Paul: have tried to talk to him - thats why i talked to you in the first place cause i felt i wasn’t gettin anywhere

Emma: h forrealz? - goddamnit - yeah he’s totally not gonna do it then

Paul: S

Emma: Why can’t he just only love me


an i feel kinda bad as f- puttin you through this.. its just i really dunno wat 2do hu?

Emma u

no you should feel proud of being a good guy

Paul aah not so sure meh

Emma: o seriously, i m thankful

Paul: ut yeah i guess, its just im kincla overwhelmed, thought John Doe was a good guy just acting tough you know

Emma: r saying that you thought he was a good guy but now you re seeing lie s a straight up had guy?

Paul: ot straight up bad but like why is he doing this? like maybe at the end of the clay its none of my fuekin business, but then again i feel like it is

Emma: don t knowwwww do you think lie s going to be hooking up with more girls or is it a one time thing that he s gotten over????

Paul: have no clue, like really.

Emma and Paul began having frequent intimate talks about very personal things. During one of those conversations, she told Paul that she had been raped while in high school. Paul was distraught to hear this and offered her assistance in seeking support for Emma.

While they were still freshmen and before any physical relationship had begun, Emma broached the topic of anal sex with Paul by private 1 acehook messenger as follows:

Emma: Fuck me in the butt

Paul: ehm maybe not? jk I miss your face tho

Emma: ahahah you don t miss my lopsided ass?

Paul: I do. just not that much good I am actually too tired to choose a movie god also to tired to spell apparently

Emma and Paul s Friendship and Sexual Encounters while they were still freshman at Columbia, Paul and Emma progressed to becoming friends with benefits. The two shared Emma’s bed for platonic sleepovers, and then, on two separate occasions during the spring of their freshman year, they engaged in sexual intercourse

In the second occasion that they had sexual intercourse that spring, Emma askedPaul to engage in anal sex with her. Paul stated that he had no experience with it. Emma said she had enjoyed it in the past with other men and wanted him to proceed. The two engaged in anal sex as part of their foreplay. They then progressed to vaginal intercourse

Following their sexual encounters on both occasions, the two discussed their relationship. Both times, they concluded that they would remain primarily as friends and that they would not enter into a. monogamous romantic relationship. An important factor in their decision was that Emma had previously been having sex with Paul’s close friend, John Doe.

Despite broaching the topic of anal sex with Paul, Emma later denied doing so.

During the summer following their freshman year, Emma frequently sent private Facebook messages to Paul, who was then living abroad. She messaged Paul that she had tested positive for an STD after having had sex at a party with both John Doe and his best friend Joe.

Emma further communicated to Paul stories and allegations of sexual abuse that she had experienced from other sexual partners. She stated: "i ’ye officially had sex with all of John Doe’ best friends. . . - did lotsa drugs k ust got very drunk - well anyways - now i have an stdi actually hate John Doe like if a girl is about to puke - don ’tput your unprotected dick into her. . . I realy don’t want to be known as the girl who contracted an std because she was drunk you know? it is more his fault for fucking me unconscious - i mean i was conscious but clearly not in my right mind. . . i was literally blackout. . . like ipuked all over the place. 22.In response to Emma telling Paul about her having a sexually transmitted disease Paul invited Emma to come to Berlin and talk to him about it. Paul had wanted to comfort Emma in the troubles she was experiencing. 23. Emma also messaged Paul frequently throughout that summer with messages including: wuv youuuu,

"i miss and love you btw" - "Paul i really miss you - "i really mis you

"Paul I wuv you so much. Please stay w me foevah" - "paul I miss you so much" - "like u know when you tell people you miss them and you don’t really mean it? - i actually mean it - i miss you so much - ahhh" - "pookie - i miss you - "I LOVE YOU - SO MUCH" - "I MISS YOU MORE THAN ANYTHING - "I love youuuu" - "and l would LOVE to have you here - omg - we could snuggle" - "PAUL I MISS YOU PAUL I MISS YOU PAUL I MISS YOU PAULLL" - "DUDE I MISS YOU SO MUCH" "I love you Paul ." These messages spanned from May 2012 through August of 2012 and similar messages continued until October 2012. 24. When Paul messaged Emma that he had been seeing a woman while abroad Emma typed are u guyz in luvvvvv? Paul responded "yeah seed time - *sad - well i dunno - I

Upon information and belief Emma contracted chiamydia and fully treated it with medication.

mean its not gonna last, Emma asked are you guys a thing? and Paul responded that it was more like a summer fling ifyou now what i mean.

On August 21, 2012, just prior to their return to Columbia campus for sophomore year, Emma wrote to Paul, i want to snuggle with you - and talk about our summers - but not right now I also love you.

On August 27, 2012, on their first night back at Columbia campus, the Sophomore Sexual Encounter ), Emma invited Paul to her room. Once again, they engaged in consensual sex in Emma’s bed. The Sophomore Sexual Encounter involved vaginal and anal sex, followed by oral intercourse.

Emmas Efforts For affection From Paul Go Unreciprocated

As is evident from Emma’s Facebook messages to Paul during the summer prior to their sophomore year, Emma’s yearning for Paul had become very intense. Emma repeatedly messaged Paul throughout that summer that she loved and missed him. She was quick to inquire whether he was in love with the woman he was seeing abroad.

Thereafter, she continued pursuing him, reiterating that she loved him. However, when Paul did not reciprocate these intense feelings, and instead showed interest in dating other women, Emma became viciously angry.

Emma Piles False Complaint With The University 32. More than seven months after the Sophomore Sexual Encounter with Paul, Emma tiled a gender-based misconduct incident report (the ’Report ) at Columbia’s Office of Gender Based Misconduct. Shockingly, she alleged that during the Sophomore Sexual Encounter with Paul, she began to choke her, slapped her face, pinned her arms ad-penetrated her anally. She said she had screamed for him to stop, but that he would not. She also stated that It could take two minutes for it to stop, or he could have strangled me to death


This is her shamelessly lying to the media:


These are her SJW lynch mob supporters:


[–]Endorsed ContributorObio1 328 points329 points  (30 children)

"The Sophomore Sexual Encounter involved vaginal and anal sex, followed by oral intercourse."

Anal, followed by oral.

No further comment.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 133 points134 points  (15 children)

Yeah, he got her to do ATM.

I'd fist-bump that guy if he were here right now.

[–]Local_Crew 87 points88 points  (6 children)

Its really not that hard...

Its only smellz

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 103 points104 points  (0 children)

I always knew Red Pill and Efukt had a crossover demographic :)

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I wish I could high-five you right now mate. I laughed hard at that.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It brightens my day to see another RedPill Mommy haha. Bikes!

[–]nrjk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Is that a reference to a porno I stumbled upon a while back? If it is, then eww.

[–]RPaccount1000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha Roccoooooo!!! Well done, sir.

[–]simple_mech 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, he rinsed his dick in her vag first.

[–]OwlsExterminator 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Problem for him was living with the repercussions. ATM = upset bitch who accuses him of rape later.

Beware ATM. Girl may do it, but remember that is not the level of commitment to a guy and they'll be really upset with you when they realize you're not eating out of their hands afterwards....

[–]Moneyley 9 points10 points  (0 children)

-----> her: "ehhh fuck me in the butt"

she got him to do it

[–]foldpak111 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd kinda just smirk at her though

[–]Sworn_to_Ganondorf 39 points40 points  (4 children)

"In an order that would surprise you"

[–]2Overkillengine 2 points3 points  (1 child)

"It was like an all you can fuck buffet!"

[–]Gunnilingus 32 points33 points  (4 children)

In my experience, if you bang a girl out good enough, she basically loses her mind and will do just about anything no matter how degrading or disgusting, often without any explicit encouragement from me. ATM is just the tip of the iceberg.

[–]someguysomewhere321[S] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

ATM is just the tip of the iceberg.

Not really sure if I want to know where the iceberg ends. :P

[–]Sadpanda596 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yep, my experience as well. Im not quite sure there is anything my girlfriend wouldn't do with me... shes actually said as much.

[–]BoTuLoX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I got my current gf's virginity (she was actually ashamed she was a virgin and didn't tell me until I confronted her about the bloody spot on the sheets). Four or five sessions later she offered to give me a rimjob without bringing it up. I draw the line there since I like kissing during sex, but from there I knew I needed only to ask to try something new.

[–]Philhelm 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the tl;dr, as I had to stop reading. Both of them should sue the university for being illiterate.

[–]Alarid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have to eat shit to talk shit

[–]1aguy01 136 points137 points  (9 children)

Isn't it weird that her alpha fuckbuddy, who plated her, and gave her an STD after a threesome where she was so drunk she puked and blacked out, doesn't get accused of rape but this white knight does?

The difference is she expected to only be the alpha's plate, but she expected the white knight beta's commitment. When he rejected her it was a blow to her ego that made her feel bad, so she tried to make him feel bad. Either way, glad to see this gutterslut go down.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Honestly, this. It's the difference between what she wanted, aka Chad T., and what she felt entitled to, aka Paul N.

[–]Danedina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you guys need to read between the lines a little better. This girl was putting out to everyone. Paul was just waiting patiently in line for his number to be called. Let he who has never accepted Dirty Thirds cast the first stone!

[–]TerryYockey 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Isn't it weird that her alpha fuckbuddy, who plated her, and gave her an STD after a threesome where she was so drunk she puked and blacked out, doesn't get accused of rape but this white knight does?

I'd love to see how the SJW crowd would try to spin this.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"It certainly doesn't mean those mysogynists are right."

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Dude seemed pretty purple pill. He had abundance mentality, but at the same time it seemed like he was ok with being the pseudo beta fuckbuddy for a little while.

It's funny because as a German in America he could probably fuck tons of college chicks just from the fact that he is a foreigner.

[–]knitro 8 points8 points [recovered]

purple pill is largely bullshit and Germans generally come across poorly with American girls, as my anecdotal experience meeting a few dozen of them has shown, it's not a sexy accent.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

purple pill is largely bullshit

I agree.

Don't know why I got downvoted, but I meant that he seemed to show some TRP esque mentalities, but still wound up being hella blue pill in the end.

And that's interesting. From my limited view of Germans (a small contingent of them at a prestigious military academy) the girls loved them because they were generally more built and more "masculine" then even the stereotypical American.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 76 points77 points  (25 children)

I watched the entire video of Emma talking to the camera. She shows micro signs that she is lying throughout. She is fighting back micro smiles throughout.

There are other famous examples of women lying in TV interviews, a famous one was Diane Downs who in 1983 shot her three children and pretended it was a man on the side of the road that did it. In her interviews Downs can be seen hiding micro smiles, tiny little facial expressions that show she is wrapping people up in lies and is sort of laughing/smiling to herself at how clever she is.

Emma exhibits the same micro smiles throughout her video.

Now compare those two videos, of Emma and Downs, to this video about prison rape. There are no micro smiles. No one is chuckling to themselves. There is no deception. The blood is drained from the face, it hangs loose, pulled by gravity as the situation they are discussing is real and painful.

Go back and watch the first couple of sentences Emma says: "...for me I was raped in my own dorm bed." and she quickly turns her face away as she is fighting to hide the smile of a liar who is outsmarting the whole world.

[–]1aguy01 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Notice how the men have no problem talking about the actions you can take to prevent being raped. Women call this 'victim blaming' and don't allow these kinds of discussions.

The guys in this video aren't saying 'just be yourself, those men weren't taught how to not rape, it's all their fault'.

[–]GainzdalfTheWhey 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Micro? I just tried watching it without any sound, and it looks like shes talking about parties and hair-styling.

[–]CuddleMyNeckbeard 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Ever seen "lie to me"? You'd love it.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I bet some big shot got busted lying because someone learned something from that show and they got it cancelled. Or it was just too cerebral for the Honey Boo Boo crowd.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

There was also another video of a pornstar who was raped. She did a self interview talking to the camera and her body language screamed uncomfortable and insecure. She couldn't maintain eye contact with the camera and was visibly shaken.

Remember that this chick was a pornstar. She is used to the camera and in previous videos she was extroverted and not shy. It is a stark contrast with this Emma chick who is still getting defended by SJWs even after being exposed as a fraud.

[–]sd23234 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Which video? Can you provide a link. Knowing what you are talking about, I'd like to see it for myself.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 2 points3 points  (3 children)

The link is in the original post, but here it is again.

[–]sd23234 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What's even more interesting is if you watch the video where she is graduating and everybody cheers her, she just looks like she is BASKING in all the attention she is getting. You can see it in her face. I think she has probably convinced herself that she WAS raped. What started out as a lie, has probably became a truth to her in her mind because she has lied so much.

[–]Air4ce1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Everytime I hear this story I keep on thinking she is doing this purely for that damn art grade and to get recognition in the art community for such a "moving piece". So basically I have this assumption this is all for her artist career

[–]sd23234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

at work; only watched a couple of seconds and will watch rest later, but having watched a few seconds, I see exactly what you are talking about.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"That's the result of RapeTraumaSyndrome misogynist!!!"

Seriously tho, good catch.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 3 points4 points  (0 children)

God that first video is fucking creepy.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (2 children)

My second wife knew about these tiny expressions, and compensated. She would go completely expressionless when she lied. Once I pointed it out to others, they could see it too. When she told the truth she had good or bad expressions, lies had none at all.

I find it interesting how people mistake my hypervigilance and scanning for lying. I rarely make constant eye contact if I'm in a busy or open environment. If I know it's safe I can make eye contact continuously, or if I know any threat will be easy to handle. Ptsd changes shit, and the cops don't know the difference. That caused me some problems in the past. Some lying bitch will normally act like the chick in the video, hell nearly everyone does.

[–]RPthrowaway123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy shit, I never noticed that. I couldn't quite put my finger on what about her mannerisms seemed so slimy in that video. This is spot on.

It's incredible to me that this has been allowed to go so far. She's a liar, and has been exposed as a liar. The truth always comes out in the end but in this case its almost like the truth doesn't matter.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Another thing to look for: the eyes. According to NLP theory, when a person is seeking existing information in their brain (telling the truth) their eyes go up and to the left. When they are creating new information (telling a lie) their eyes go up and to the right.

You can see Emma throughout the video looking up and to the right repeatedly. She's full of shit.

[–]OFF_THE_DEEP_END 6 points6 points [recovered]

They've found that the directions can vary between people. What you said is true about where people look and lies. But you need a baseline of an individual telling the truth to determine what eye direction means what. Just an FYI.

[–]strps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CC '15...more like CC '11-'15

[–]Soriq 152 points153 points  (28 children)

This is the daughter of psychiatrists. Add that to your list of red flags gents

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (23 children)

Any particular reason why this is bad? Genuinely interested.

[–]raob11 97 points98 points  (17 children)

Conventional wisdom is that (a) shrinks become shrinks because they are fucked in the head and trying to figure themselves out, and (b) their kids are extremely fucked because they have shrinks for parents.

That's the meme anyway, whether there's fact behind it, I don't know.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (7 children)

This tends to be true. I had to see a few therapists for anxiety before I discovered mindfulness.

They're out of their minds.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther 5 points6 points  (0 children)

+1 to mindfulness. Good job.

[–]GainzdalfTheWhey 2 points3 points  (2 children)

How did you learn about it? I wanna start

[–]Myrpl 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Guided mindful meditation from neuroscientist and author of the book "Waking up: a guide to spirituality without religion" Sam Harris, click here.

Just close your eyes once you sit and follow the instructions.

[–]spassa 7 points8 points  (0 children)

there are tons and tons of information out there. meditation is known today after being taught to Buddhist monks since 2500 years ago.

At first you should ask yourself if you are only interested in the mindfulness meditation and its calming effect or if you want to learn more about the whole topic, so that you know how to react to different sensations you will feel while meditating.

There are different forms of meditation - loving kindness meditation is another one. In Buddhism mindfulness meditation is a tool to get a calm state of mind and to see things as they really are, not affected by your emotions or expectations. This will reduce your suffering; also good for strong abundance mentality.

TL;DR: Mindful Breathing Meditation

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My best friend decided to become a psychologist purely because he wants to help people who have the same problems that he did.

People are typically champions for their own cause. Being able to understand the burden of having mental disorders usually motivates someone to want to help others alleviate that burden.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Probably just confirmation bias. I know a daughter of two psychiatrists and she's an amazing person who I actually respect and admire a lot.

[–]Iron_Ethos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol I know a girl who has several addictions, studying to be a therapist, and says she wants to help people with addictions... lol hunny, you need to help your self first.

[–]garlicextract[🍰] 14 points15 points  (3 children)

They get wayyyyy too deep into what the fuck is going wrong in a person's head, and are constantly exposed every day to fucked up people.

Imagine driving in an old, noisy, rattling car with an experienced mechanic. "Oh shit, the alternator is probably wearing out... or is that the vacuum seal? Perhaps the engine is knocking slightly... something wrong with the carburetor... low oil? Not enough coolant? Maybe the guy is using the wrong octane fuel..."

Except now replace "mechanic" with "psychiatrist" and "car" with "every person they interact with"

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The difference is the mechanic can fix the car, shrinks can't fix shit because people have to fix themselves. Shrinks are like the mechanic that doesn't fix the oil leak, he just prescribes a thicker oil so the leak is slower, then charges you double just to continually bring the car in for its Rx of thick oil. That other shit making noise? Blinker fluid, muffler bearings, and a new Flux valve since connuter valves aren't installed anymore, should fix it...But it doesn't, it's a way to keep you coming back.

The good shrinks will ask the right questions and let you come around to the right answer and in that way the car fixes itself. The shit shrinks give you Rx and keep you coming back for more.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

After the relaitonship that made me seek out TRP, my psychiatrist explained to me that all my problems were due to my relationship with my mother.

No bitch, I was just conditionned by the blue pill, feminine centrist social conventions who taught me lies about how to get what I want from women.

Reading the rational male and TRP has been 800 times more efficient than the psychatrist and I spent about 2 fucking grand on her fucked up shit.

[–]Soriq 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The use of various meds. Such as with her.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

an American fourth-year visual arts major

A.k.a drama chick. This is the number one red flag to avoid at all costs.

[–]sundaybrunch11 78 points79 points  (1 child)

Practically "stalkerish"--but instead of breaking into Paul's house, she brings a mattress to emotionally strong arm him for validation. Same obssession, same mental issues.

[–]DaphneDK 73 points74 points  (4 children)

This is her shamelessly lying to the media

Amazing the number of times she could put in I/me into such a short video. It's all about her, me me me me me, and to hell with guy whose life she pretty much ruined for a long time. Only consolation is that she also messed up her own life pretty throughly. Who in their right mind would ever hire such a drama queen just waiting to explode in false rape lies and unfounded accusations?!

[–]someguysomewhere321[S] 50 points51 points  (2 children)

Who in their right mind would ever hire such a drama queen just waiting to explode in false rape lies and unfounded accusations?!

No worries, SJW art buyers will come to the rescue:

Art critic Jerry Saltz included Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight) in his list of the best art shows of 2014, calling it "pure radical vulnerability."

[–]sweetleef 13 points14 points  (0 children)

.... and now some unknown "art buyer" jerry saltz is also famous. Along with whatever talking head moron that puts saltz on television and hypes the nonsense he spews, and so on. And that's the only point of this disgusting charade.

This kind of bullshit goes hand-in-hand with reality-tv/celebrity media bullshit - the goal is to get attention, always. It doesn't matter if it's because you claim rape, or because your rape claim is proven false, or because your ass is huge, or you're a good person or piece of shit, whatever - the only objective is fame and attention.

[–]TattedGuyser 20 points21 points  (0 children)

umm... umm.... umm.... over and over again. She doesn't even know what the fuck she's talking about, very early signs of story fabrication. You can even notice the switch in tones when she's talking about the 'rape' at the start (she looks away to gather her thoughts), but as soon as she switches to her thesis her case of the umms' clears right up. The whole thing is a cry for attention for a slut.

[–]RemyPrice 47 points48 points  (7 children)

The two engaged in anal sex as part of their foreplay.

TIL anal is considered foreplay.

[–]tehwankingwalruses 70 points71 points  (4 children)

When you have blue hair and carry a mattress around it is.

[–]felipebarroz 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I laugh more than I should with this one. Now everyone in the office is thinking that I'm retard and that I'm laughing at Excel spreadsheets

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I just spit up my coffee at that one.

[–]magus678 178 points179 points  (34 children)

What is it with girls typing like total fucking retards now? I mean I know the bar is lower in general but this is like 4th grade hello kitty shit.

[–]seiken287 37 points38 points  (12 children)

They're columbia students too

[–]terrorismofthemind 1 point2 points  (11 children)

College is shit. Everyone gets in so of course we get shit like this coming out now.

[–]GV19 2 points3 points  (10 children)

This is false, I wouldn't be on my way to being a dr if not for college, and as an immigrant from Romania it has been a life saver.

[–]YonosoyAZUL 45 points46 points  (2 children)

A lot of the girls (and guys) in college sort of take pride in writing like that outside of their classes. "u not in skool so y do u type like ur in class." Fucking idiots.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

It sills over in other languages as well... Idiocracy was a prophecy movie...

[–]totorox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Parents have a big role in this, seen from my standpoint: giving example first by being strict in your language.

[–]Tarnsman4Life 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Yeah this next generation is something else; I can't believe Mattress girl actually made it into a college in the first place. I have a feeling she will end up with some do nothing job with the state or some "non profit".

[–]someguysomewhere321[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

She was a visual arts student, which meant her employability was low to begin with.

[–]someguysomewhere321[S] 55 points56 points  (15 children)

2much ef u kno?

Girls are lazy as fuck and don't care about being perceived as intelligent is my theory.

She's in the reasonable range though compared to other girls.

[–][deleted] 83 points84 points  (2 children)

Maybe it's my age but writing like that is fucking harder to understand than normal english, it's not as if they do it to increase speed of writing. They've gone full on retard.

[–]sushisection 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Plus phones nowadays have autocorrect. It takes me more time/effort to type like a middle schooler

[–]_the_shape_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love when I can tell I'm forcing a girl to step out of her comfort zone and write like a normal human being. Suddenly, every sentence has a period at the end, and the corrections* begin to fly all over the place. Very enjoyable experience.

[–]MarvelousWhale 28 points29 points  (7 children)


I was dating a girl who I purposefully set up the foundation of me being interested in her because she was smart and I was attracted to intelligence. She went from speaking like the above excerpts to speaking coherently with near perfect grammar and spelling.

When I dumped her hamster ass years later, while she was still begging for my cock as now we were FWB, she'd been bitching about this other guy she was seeing (for attention and shit test purposes). I fuck her one night, she falls asleep two hours later, I look at her phone to see if she is still talking to this guy as a way tof Ind out if girls really are like that (I.e. bitch about a guy but they're still sleeping with them) and I found it not only to be true, but the way she was talking to the guy, as well as the way the guy spoke to her was 4th grade retard level.

TL;DR They talk this way on purpose. Often times the words they use are misspelled and contain extra characters than needed, but the extra mile they go to type this garbage is used to express attitude.

Things like incoherent talking and intentional stupidity put me off big time, how do you all deal with sticking your dick in stupid and rewarding the downfall of IQ levels?

[–]1aguy01 15 points16 points  (2 children)

how do you all deal with sticking your dick in stupid and rewarding the downfall of IQ levels?

By doing nothing else with them besides that.

[–]Veganski 9 points10 points  (1 child)

And then getting Chlamydia.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's the same thing as the girls that talk with the baby voice, and equally as annoying.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Replace 'wrong' with 'false' for more lols.

[–]1Rumble_in_the_Jungle 96 points97 points  (10 children)

Emma: Why can’t he just only love me

The perfect example of how women feel towards alpha men. No stupid questions, no unreasonable demands, no hoops to jump through.

[–]BlackHeart89 57 points58 points  (4 children)

To answer her question:

Because she's fucking all of his friends and who knows who else...

[–]trplurker 55 points55 points [recovered]

She did it to try and make him jealous because that's how she would feel if he was fucking her friends. It just didn't dawn on her that he doesn't care.

[–]1aguy01 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Right? John Doe is a bro who was passing this girl around, even ran a train on her. Feminism has really done a good job of ruining womens' lives.

[–]Super-Saiyajin 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's funny how the whole jealously thing only works one way! If a girl I knew started fucking all of my friends, I would be repulsed and definitely not LTR that bitch!

[–]Countpudyoola 38 points39 points  (4 children)

That's what I was getting out of the first part of the story. John Doe was the AF. Paul was the beta orbiter, who then wormed his way in, then after he invested his beta attentions elsewhere she reacts spurned. But note while she was spurned by JDAF she never accused him of rape as it would have DEFINITELY made JD never giver her any AFing later. She chose the weaker of the two that rejected her. That she could really care less about being with in the long run.

And this is something all beta orbiters should learn from...but they wont.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Best way to avoid legal bullshit with crazy bitches like this, after you've fucked her and discovered the crazy, is to go full purse carrying, begging for a sniff omega. She loses interest, stops fucking you, wants you to orbit, and you make a vapor trail behind you as you reach escape velocity.

If you shut her down hard, or simply avoid her, you run a risk of false rape, vandalism of your property, and other crazy stalker shit. They really want what they can't have, so radio silence ramps that up. You want crazy gone, you give her everything she craves easily and act like her minion/hireling, and she'll "dump" you.

Been there done that, learned the hard way. It's damn easy to act omega, even if you're not.

[–]Moneyley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you'll have to give her the power. I went about it the same way with the first woman I dated. As the relationship deepened, I got that she was getting psycho and controlling. I played dumb and was in damage control mode for a while until she looked to bail. These bitches have to be let down carefully and unfortunately, there IS a game to play here. I ended up with a foreclosure but it was the best out of all evils. You cant just drop these type, you have to make THEM not like you.

[–]strps 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Exactly, that's why he got the rape charge and not the dude who got her to run a train with his frat straight to clap town. It sounds like Paul got the gory details of that episode, and she's then shocked when he won't put a symbolic ring on it...ladies these days....

The whole first part where he throws his 'friend' John Doe under the bus just to get closer to this skank is actually really good drama, almost too perfect in fact, like it should be on stage because it is so poisonous and insidious. I'd say he got what he had coming, but I don't think even he deserves this kind of harassment; she has managed to publicly shame him probably more effectively than someone famous could have by turning his beta-tude into art.

[–]Tarnsman4Life 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Wow after reading those messages if they are as represented who the hell would ever believe he rapped her? Hell if I'd been an interviewing officer then come across this I would of charged her for making false statements.

[–]RPthrowaway123 28 points29 points  (3 children)

She should go to prison for the harassment and emotional damage she's caused this guy...her "project" should be invalid as well, because it hinged not only on harassing another student but also on a false premise.

[–]NickCiufi 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Columbia promises punishment for "retaliation". They could have made a statement by refusing to let her graduate, but they didn't have the balls. I hope this guy gets an eight-figure check for the nonsense that this college put him through.

[–]RPthrowaway123 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's insanity. Imagine if a man did something like this in "protest". He'd be thrown out of school before you can say "misandry".

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Just looking at the fact that they banned large objects, but allowed her mattress suggests tacit approval. I hope he bags enough cash to force a shake up.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Anyone notice the beta bitch trying to nice guy his way into some pussy?

[–]Jaereth 37 points37 points [recovered]

Yeah I did.

"Paul, will you talk to my boyfriend and tell him to use condoms when he fucks other girls?"

What fucking plane of existence is this something anyone would actually have a conversation about.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Some dudes should just stay on the farm and marry Marlene after high school.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (1 child)

He did nice his way in, but she fucked all his friends too, then accused him of rape.

Don't be nice.

[–]sojubang 19 points19 points [recovered]

My best friend's brother is a rapist that's married to his victim. Except he's not a rapist. That was a cry for attention. He still has the record to go with the accusation, though! This kind of thing is ridiculously common. I wish I knew the percentage off the top of my head of people exactly like him. It's pretty damn high.

[–]Hitleronormative 24 points24 points [recovered]

"Hello, I'm Bob."

"Are you her brother?"

"Haha, no, I'm her rapist! Don't worry, people get us mixed up all the time!"

(all laugh, roll credits)

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (1 child)

What have we learned here?

  1. Don't put your dick in crazy.
  2. Don't let that pussy distract you from the red flags.
  3. Red flags in this case are: a. Claims to have been raped in the past. Either she's lying and untrustworthy or telling the truth and bitter for revenge. Either way, stay away. b. Claims she was raped while unconscious, but she wasn't unconscious, just black out drunk except she wasn't blacked out. c. Says I love you five thousand times over the course of a couple months. That's unhealthy obsession in my book. Remember the movie Fatal Attraction? Watch it again.

All the signs point to her being a sexual sociopath. And we already know that women have no regard for the well being or feelings of men. Those two together are like fire and gasoline.

That said, I tend to disregard any victim narrative that women come up with. They simply don't understand right and wrong and are oblivious to their own role in their personal troubles.

If she's bitching about the ex and blaming him for everything then that's what she's going to do to you later on.

[–]windowstapedshut 13 points14 points  (9 children)

So she was exploiting the trust and compassion of others for personal gain? Surely this is indefensible, I don't see how even the most fervent SJWs can stand behind her now.

[–]someguysomewhere321[S] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

People don't like to admit that they were wrong about something and femnazis will just hamster some shit like it being for the awareness / common good, while ignoring the factual falsehood of the claim.

[–]unsafeword 8 points8 points [recovered]

I don't see how even the most fervent SJWs can stand behind her now

I wish I shared your optimism, but a few objective facts will have little effect. There are two filters in play here, one internal and one external.

Most SJWs have internalized various forms of structuralism. That is, this isn't her versus him. It's the entirety of "females" versus "patriarchy," or "victim" versus "rape culture." Specific evidence exonerating him is irrelevant it doesn't exonerate "patriarchy" or "rape culture." The narrative remains relevant and so the story still gets told. If the guy is lucky, they might begin to leave his name off while they still embellish and parrot the story celebrating the brave victim.

Externally, SJWs don't usually follow any kind of normal news sources. The majority of them will never hear of the exonerating evidence from the highly filtered, repost- and hashtag-ready sources they do consume. Or even if they do hear and register dissent from outside the echo chamber, there's no win in being bold enough to share that with peers. The peers' reaction would be the very same blocking and ridicule that's used in response to all other external attempts at introducing skepticism or a rebuttal.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You argued your points perfectly. I am agog with your rhetorical mastery. Bravo.

[–]Endorsed ContributoriBrokeRSA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, they're already hamstering it as "it's normal to be friendly to your rapist after the event"


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They always have an excuse.

[–]-Luthe- 24 points25 points  (16 children)

Don't stick your dick in crazy.

Dude should have known from all those "I love you's" not to bang her again.

[–]netgrey 41 points41 points [recovered]

Or the fact she was fucking his friend and all of his friends friends.

[–]Tarnsman4Life 32 points33 points  (3 children)

That just makes her a typical CC riding slut; not crazy per say. I do find it laughable this woman expected to lock him down as a girlfriend while she saw more dick than the piss trough at Wrigley during the 7th inning stretch.

[–]tehwankingwalruses 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Right? "Hey I got plowed by all your bros, but I luvvvv u!!"

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (7 children)

Ugh, i'm singlehandedly on a mission to stop this nonsense and get rid of this meme- When you make an alpha widow they are all crazy and you have no idea until after it happens. The best educated normal girl can turn into a raving lunatic if your SMV is high enough.

[–]-Luthe- 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree that a chick can go crazy at any time.

However, when she starts telling you she loves you and you don't feel the same way, continue to bang to your own peril.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 3 points4 points  (2 children)

True. That's why I developed a system where she thinks she is dumping you. Go full omega, beg for pussy and carry her purse, then you can slip away without drama once her vag dries up for you. There's no coming back from it, so you don't do it with plates or girls you want to fuck in the future, but for crazy bitches it is flawless.

[–]Super-Saiyajin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

X2 Once you've swallowed the red pill you can easily turn blue pill to flip all the switches necessary to turn off attraction!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can confirm this works. Swan diving into the bluepill serves as a stark reminder what can happen if your game slips with you are playing with a proper LTR material.

[–]1Jaereth 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah no shit! Paul doesn't sound like the swiftest dude though. Sounds very orbiter like in the beginning. "Sure honey, i'll tell you're boyfriend he needs to use condoms when he fucks other chicks".

[–]BlackHeart89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. The moment a chick says that to me, I instantly start to back off. One chick said that shit to me a week after going out. Then continued saying the shit.

I don't think she's serious. I just think she's trying to play me. But either way, I'm out.

[–]garlicextract[🍰] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Paul: Ah thanks god good to hear - so wats da nuse

jesus everyone involved in this is retarded. I can't stand any of it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Wow, what a massive whore. She fucks his friend, fucks all that guy's friends, and contracts Chlamydia.

Sounds like the accused was her BB/emotional tampon, and she's punishing him because he scorned her.

[–]BigDiggerNick74 11 points12 points  (0 children)

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Emma "Sulk-o-witch"

Heh what a perfect name indeed.

Also : Columbia*

[–]prodigyx 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I put this in a pastebin so people can post it on facebook without implicating TRP:


[–]TRPthrowaway112 7 points8 points  (1 child)

One of the most disgusting things about this is when you see pictures of this moron carrying around her rape mattress is all the smiling faces of people helping her lug that shit around.

[–]Nicholas_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How the fuck did these people ever get into university?

Their English astounds me.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This article does not comply to our jews agenda to divide the gentils. Please remove it yourself or we will remove it.

I was joking, I beleive she should go to jail for along time not just because she make me angry but also to make those false rape claimer to think twice before reporting their shit.

[–]WallyHotvedt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Once again, they engaged in consensual sex in Emma’s bed. The Sophomore Sexual Encounter involved vaginal and anal sex, followed by oral intercourse.

eeeeh ass to mouth, she's a well used dirty little thing

[–]aymu 25 points26 points  (7 children)

Preface I'm a girl and I've become fascinated by TRP and the sadness it belies in modern society:

This is fucking vile.

This girl is a filthy, self-serving piece of trash. I am fucking astonished that she still has the audacity to play on this charade flaunting her mattress (where she probably contracted/distributed STDs) around.

What. The. Shit. Society? Please, guys of TRP, I know so many of you are just looking for a way to hack the current system and find the natural contentment that is being denied to you, but I truly believe society in the west has jumped the shark. You guys are fucked over constantly and then ON TOP OF THE THEFT OF YOUR LIVES you are told you are the problem. I can't even.

Someone, please do something to change your culture. I don't have suggestions. But this current system is destroying the world.

[–]beachbloke 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I got a kick out of this post because it has 23 points and one (now two) replies. This is the only place on reddit where if a woman says something positive about men she will get crickets. It makes me proud of being a part of this community.

Aymu, we like what you say, but we are suspicious of your motives because AWALT.

[–]tekn0_ 5 points6 points  (1 child)

How fucked up can a bitch be?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)


Paul just got cleared by a 4th rape tribunal fyi.

[–]someguysomewhere321[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"Adam" is either gay or the biggest beta ever.

The story should be a big warning against studying at SJW colleges (the SJW epidemic seems to spread more and more though).

None the less, I had a largely false sexual harassment claim case back in my highschool days in pre SJW times, where alleged perpetrators from my class were forcibly moved into other classes as a result of a few tag along claims by girls that were not even involved.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was accused of being a serial rapist on campus by a girl like Emma in college. Fucked me up.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Whether it's true or not, no one should take her seriously when other people are always helping her carry it. I thought the point of her "art" was that she carry it herself.

At least I know who not to call when I need help moving.

[–]TheWaterTemple 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Shitty grammar for two students at Columbia

[–]SunshineBlotters 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is a joke. Funny thing is that I am always the bad guy for insisting that just because a girl claims rape doesnt mean she has actually been raped and that is not a good reason to lock a guy up. Especially when they couldve gone to the hospital to get all the evidence they wouldve needed.

Lookie here. Look how right I am.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

She needs to get a life on a different planet away from humans.

[–]skoobled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For her this stopped being about a rape accusation long ago. Ever since then it's been purely about the attention, validation and keeping that woman crack coming

She's the very definition of girl-who-cried-wolf

[–]spectrum_92 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I look at those videos and images of Columbia University, the incredible campus and that amazing sandstone library with the names of great philosophers and scientists engraved on the front, and i just can't help but feel furious that this lying and entitled little bitch has squandered an incredible opportunity to just cause drama and gain attention for herself.

If i was lucky enough to be at such a university i would be relishing the opportunity to study with some of the world-leading experts in academic fields and studying in the same institution as some of the greatest American minds (ok sure, i'd be getting on the piss and being a typical college student as well).

It's just so unfair that there are countless thoughtful and intelligent people out there who would kill for an opportunity to study at a place like Columbia and this bitch has not only wasted her time there, but totally ruined the experience of that poor German dude, and damaged the reputation of the university itself by embroiling it in this atrocious lie.

[–]grocket 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does anyone know if she has borderline personality disorder? Because the "doubling down" on a lie and aggressive attention seeking behavior strongly indicates BPD.

[–]1edwardhwhite 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I am very skeptical of her story. But his lawyer is fucking up by releasing these. From the messages I've read, there is no smoking gun indicating a prior sexual relationship. Pre-trial publicity is a minefield. On the other hand, that's all she's done.

[–]trplurker 1 points1 points [recovered]

That's assuming him or his lawyer is even involved, which I can guarantee they aren't. This has MRA written all over it, some local group read the facebook messages and decided to do this on their own.

[–]1edwardhwhite 0 points1 point  (2 children)

no, actually the lawyer released them this week. its in the papers. he's suing Columbia.

[–]trplurker 1 points1 points [recovered]

I"m talking about the posters not the brief, we know the brief was filed by a lawyer.

[–]OncewasaBlastocoel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're at a fucking Ivy and can't type properly.. The fuck?

[–]1MajorMid 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Typical case of regretting sleeping with a beta.

Paul was the Beta Orbiter and White Knight while his friend was the Alpha Fux. Paul sleeps with the bitch. Paul then eventually doesn't give her commitment anymore. So the bitch is disgusted and regretful and her hamster runs wild. False Rape Claim.

[–]Espada18 0 points1 point  (3 children)

tfw there's a girl I'm currently talking to who displays all those traits. Moving on to me really fast, telling me she'd let me fuck her in the ass etc..

Should I next her?

[–]Sootraggins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless that's the ass you want to be fucking for the rest of your life, I'd watch out. But if it can be as casual as you want it or there's no stress involved have fun!

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[–]skoobled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women only want men to be successful in as far as they can take a cut

[–]THCanadian17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck that hurt my head to read. Who texts like that?

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