Red Pill ExampleGuy's girlfriend pushes him to open up the relationship. Guy decides he deserves better and dumps her. Girlfriend subsequently has a mental breakdown. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner

I was just browsing the relationships subreddit and saw this thread which gave me my good laugh of the day.


Whoever the guy who posted this thread is, he's red pill as fuck. Listen to some of the remarks by him:

My girlfriend works in a job where it's basically her a bunch of women and this one guy. This one guy that works there is a real ladies man type guy, and my girlfriend is enamored by this guy. Nothing new, here I get it we have been in a relationship for a long time, and lusting after something new isn't bad.

Good old Chad Thundercock. You can always count on him to show up and give 'gina tingles to women who are already in a relationship.

However, my girlfriend started pushing more than that. She basically started asking me "what if I was to have a threesome with you, if I was to sleep with another guy." She started pushing more and more, about things we should do before we tie the knot and become boring old people. Then she started saying that I worked out so much, and look so much better, now than when I first got with her, now was my chance to get some more action etc. And she started really pushing this idea of an open relationship.

But unlike in many of these threads, the woman's boyfriend is pretty alpha himself. He works out, he takes care of his appearance, and he's capable of getting other women.

I realized, that her crush was something far more than that. And I didn't need her in my life, there were some complaints I had about the relationship, and now was my chance to find someone new that didn't have those faults. So I simply told her that this isn't something I want to do anymore, and that I think we should see new people.

The guy is smart enough to realize what a shitty deal he's getting and bails from the relationship. Like I said: Red pill as fuck.

I don't think it sunk into her, until like the day after when I deleted her off social media. Then she legitimately snapped. She forced herself into my apartments (roommates were there), and just sat there crying. She ended up buying me some really expensive shirts ($300+) for me to show me her love. And in general she is going crazy, she has taken sick from her work.

I think it hit her that she sacrificed an exclusive relationship with an alpha because she wanted to have her cake and eat it too. Worse, she's 28 years old and on the verge of hitting the wall, so she's probably gonna have to settle for a beta bucks if she wants kids. Meanwhile, her ex-boyfriend will likely spend the next little while banging hot women in the 19-24 age range.

I don't have any desire for getting back together with her. I know a lot of people will say I am bad for giving up on a relationship after so many years. But the thing was, I cared about her, but when she started talking about her lust towards the other guy, it basically killed my feelings towards her. And honestly, I am at a point in my life where I am happy with how things with just me are. I know I am an awesome person, and I don't need to convince anyone to stay.

Holy shit, even if this guy has never visited this subreddit before, he's truly got a red pill mindset. He doesn't depend on other people for validation, he provides it to himself.

The rest of the thread is him looking for advice on how to stop his ex-girlfriend from messing with his life if she gets vindictive. And also people patting him on the back for dumping her (there are a lot of RadFems and white knights in the relationships sub, but on a whole that subreddit hates infidelity).

[–][deleted] 495 points496 points  (73 children)

These stories give me a raging erection. I get a deep satisfaction anytime a guy actually stands up for himself and behaves like a man, because it seems like this sort of behavior is so rare.

[–]_the_shape_ 107 points108 points  (21 children)

Conversely, every time I hear a story of a guy sinking into the furthest depths of manginary, graduating from med school in his early 30s and immediately wifing up his psychologically unsound, raging cunt of a gf because he has "no choice" but to do so, that annoying losing all hope for humanity feeling rises up in me, but these days, mostly if I know the guy personally since these stories are so common.

[–]foldpak111 134 points135 points  (7 children)

"Lets go to school for 14 years, start making 300k a year, then give it all away to some 6/10 because I'm in scarcity." -said by every beta male

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (6 children)

Even if shes not a 6/10 today, in 10 years she probably will be. So why lock that in.

[–][deleted] 23 points23 points

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[–]thehonestdouchebag 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You'd think that these guys would get used to being alone. Lots of people aren't comfortable being by themselves, I think thats part of growing to be a man, comfort in solitude. I'm not saying live/be alone your whole life if you don't want to, but you should at least be at peace in your own company.

[–]scumtriedtoknifeme 7 points8 points  (0 children)

lock it down by wifeing it up.

Wow... just wow. A phrase that can be funny, incredibly offensive, and laugh your face off funny at the same time...

[–]Shiningknight12 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There is this misconception that marriage somehow protects your relationship.

If you are poorer than your spouse, sure, but as a rich doctor it only gives your LTR a bigger reason to leave you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I personally don't think LTR s work for most people. That's why they should no longer be the standard. Don't enter into it and then violate it when it doesn't suit you. Have the integrity to end it or don't become exclusive. But marriage is a horrible idea almost every time.

[–]thewrightstuff88 17 points18 points  (5 children)

my younger brother is currently 25 and getting married to his fiance and they are both in med school. They're starting the marriage off by her going to a residency in NYC while he is doing a 2 year research thing in baltimore. I just got out of a 6 year relationship where I was about to pop the question to a girl I thought I could spend the rest of my life with. Too bad they're all fuckin crazy. Marriage is rough enough as it is, I can't imagine how it will be without a good start

[–]XeRefer 70 points71 points  (4 children)

My old platoon sergeant used to give young guys his three rules about women. "One, they're all fuckin crazy. Two, they all want dick. Three, they'll give you the fucking you don't deserve." after a particular long story about his crazy ex wife, one of our squad leaders who was getting married walked in, and decided to Ultimately chime in. "some are less crazy than others." trying to sow seeds of doubt in the old man. Crusty PSG turns his head, and just yells out at the top of his lungs "CRAZY DOESN'T IMPROVE WITH TIME". And he just storms out. Good advice, hilariously executed, he refused to be undermined by a squad leader even then, was fucking hilarious.

[–]scapeity 62 points63 points  (1 child)

same story... but my old squad leader told 18 year old me...

"there are two flavors of women, the type that need medication and the type that are on medication. stay away from both"

[–]bluedrygrass 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Those mottos are pure gold

[–]ex_astris_sci 18 points18 points [recovered]

he's truly got a red pill mindset.

In that case having a rp mindset is having common sense.

[–]Dev_on 9 points9 points [recovered]

pretty much. almost sad we have to market it as such...

do whats good for you, don't screw yourself over...

basically it

[–]HS-Thompson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sadly common sense is uncommon.

[–]2IVIaskerade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Think of it this way: it's another easy piece of tail on the market, and you don't even have to deal with her trying to use you as an emotional tampon.

[–][deleted] 69 points70 points  (35 children)

I agree. Women have a way of needling and henpecking until they get what they want.

You can slap it down the first time and that helps but they start at it again soon but more subtle.

It's like you have to write the terms of everything down and then refer to it later to make sure she hasn't pulled one over on you.

One thing women like to do is to talk to you while you are busy doing something else. If you are distracted and can only give half your attention they will ask for all kinds of things. The more important the thing you are doing is the more she asks for.

Things that she would have no business asking when you could give you full undivided attention are things she will ask when you are tired or busy.

The solution is to stop what you are doing when she talks to you. Often, if they were going to pull the wool over your eyes they will back pedal and say they will talk about it later and they don't want to disturb your game or project.

And always look a woman in the face when she talks. That's the only way to detect her lies. Watch those facial expressions, tone, and body language. Once you catch her in a few lies you will see the same thing again and again. Ask her questions about things you know and that she might lie about and observe the result.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 24 points25 points  (7 children)

The fucking "Something is bothering me" talk when you're about to drift off to sleep. You'd think there were seminars where they all learn this shit.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 10 points11 points  (6 children)

if You're about to sleep ignore the shit out of it and go to sleep. If it's important enough she'll be ready to talk about it in the morning.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

deleted What is this?

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's because you guy friends are male and think and act like you do. That being generally logical.

Your GF/Wife is female. She thinks differently. It's emotional shit. Which is why passive aggressive stuff happens. It works with their female friends and orbiters so they try to use it on you. It's the same as when a guy argues with a woman using logic. He loses. When a woman argues with a man with emotion, she loses.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah, not so easy when you live with them. I used to do that and instead dealt with her shittiness for a few days so she could calm down. You then have to freeze her out, which is a pain to have to do every time it comes up.

What works is shutting them down immediately. "It's bedtime, we're not talking about this now, goodnight". They'll still be pissy in the morning, but in my experience they're less fuming than if you completely ignore them.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that's what I meant by ignore the shit out of it... Don't deal with it on her schedule. Deal with it on your own schedule.

[–]tompanz 21 points22 points  (16 children)

Don't underestimate women. They are biologically inclined to manipulation. They do it without even thinking. Most of them aren't stupid and will find a way to get what they want.

[–]1independentmale 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It's like you have to write the terms of everything down and then refer to it later to make sure she hasn't pulled one over on you.

Yeah, I used to think this way, too. Here's the thing: They fucking know. Those bitches are crafty and smart as hell, they know the deal. She hasn't forgotten. She's just playing you, hoping you've changed your mind or relaxed your position or completely forgotten yourself where you drew that line in the sand.

I don't play their games anymore. I don't have to prove shit to her. I said x and I meant it. I don't care that she's pretending she forgot. I don't even care if she legitimately did forget. Here's your fucking reminder: This is how it is, take it or leave it.

[–]MagicGainbow 1 point2 points  (4 children)

And always look a woman in the face when she talks. That's the only way to detect her lies. Watch those facial expressions, tone, and body language.

What if you actually have autism? I mean actual doctors none of that 'self diagnosed' bullshit.

[–]fortifiedoranges 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Well you're fucked then! Maybe find a weird hobby that makes you a lot of money then blow it all on a third world import trophy wife. For real though, even being here reading is a step in the right direction.

[–]MagicGainbow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't mean me personally, I have autism but most can't tell unless I tell them (thanks LA Noire/trp).

[–]Juffo-WupDeepChild 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A trick my autistic friend told me is to look at other parts of the person's face instead of their eyes. Look at one of their ears, their forehead, or their mouth.

[–]TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter_ 34 points35 points  (2 children)

These stories give me a raging erection.

His tone came off as matter-of-fact and exact, which is perfect in how to deal with crazies

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Exactly. If you give them the drama they want - and believe me, it IS drama they are looking for since most of these sorts of people are downright histrionic - it will just snowball into a horrible mess. In my younger years I have made the mistake of feeding that beast during a messy breakup or two, and it's pretty much always a mistake.

Just calmly assert yourself, lay down the law, and walk away. By 'walk away' I mean 'completely cut contact'. It's the only sane response.

[–]mister_barfly75 7 points8 points  (0 children)

and believe me, it IS drama they are looking

Drama, attention, whatever. You get these self-entitled bitches who think that they're the heroine in some Hollywood RomCom and demand the drama to prove that they matter. "Of course I matter, otherwise that guy wouldn't have gone batshit when I slept with his room mate." The more drama they generate, the more it shows the other person cares, the more it strokes their ego, the more self worth they perceive. That's why I go no contact, fuck fulfilling them with their ego trips, I'd rather concentrate on me.

[–]Nazrath2112 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I am not sure if TRP porn exists, but this would be front runner for porn of the year.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 21 points22 points  (4 children)

I actually kind of feel bad for that girl.

Unlike how anyone on the planet felt for ME when I was 18 and getting mindraped 80 times a day from every possible direction.

Not saying that to play the victim either. My point is, this bitch probably has considered extreme personal mindrape to be her birthright since day one. Including what she tried to do to this dude. You lose, bitch.

[–]sLyyyisfactioN 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not about being a man, it's about being a thinking human being.

[–]1nzgs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I find these stories inspirational. It gets very tiresome and depressing reading the endless stream of beta stories on the internet.

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 144 points145 points  (45 children)

Willing to bet that she was already fucking the other dude.

That's what happened to me once. The LTR asked me over the phone while I was in Afghanistan to have an open relationship. Yeah, me on a FOB with 90% men and no sex allowed whatsoever, that sounds like a real deal sweetie. [/sarcasm]

Anyways, she was already fucking some guy named Darren she met at the dog park and just wanted permission to keep doing it.

So obviously I ended it.

Funny post-hoc Karma at the end of this tale; I came back at the end of the tour to our house (we were living together still) but didn't tell her I was returning. I come in, tan combats on, big ass rucksack and vest, had just added 20 lbs of muscle with my first go with creatine and glutamine. Darren was there by himself waiting in the kitchen - he nearly shits his drawers seeing me at the front door.

Me: "What are you doing here?"

Darren: "um... Waiting for her."

Me: "Wait someplace else."

He leaves out the back door, since I'm at the front. after he's gone I look down and see his shoes there. Fucker slinked off barefoot just to not go past me. :D

Karma for her too. Months later he ended up stealing $5k from her and fucking off to the West coast.

[edit; word added for clarity]

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Guaranteed most military girlfriends have Tinder downloaded before your boots even hit the ground. Hypergamy doesn't care, if you're not around she is going to find new dick.

[–]franklyforthright 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just moved from divorce capital of Canada/largest army base can confirm

[–]DaphneDK 84 points85 points  (35 children)

Girls fucking around while their men are on military duty on a foreign continent are some of the lowest forms of life. Comparable to what we had in Europe during WWII, with some girls going with the German invaders. We had them shaved, stripped naked and public shamed. A light punishment for sure, but perhaps adequate for their transgressions today.

[–]ScottRikkard 48 points49 points  (4 children)

That's because women recognize POWER, but not MORALITY.

And that goes for EVERY women. No matter how smart, educated and interesting to talk to, no matter how good of a person. Deep down, they bow to whoever is more powerful.

EDIT - or perceived as more powerful

[–]Dev_on 21 points21 points [recovered]

clearly you haven't served. It happens so often it's a meme FFS.

Ask any CF member what a 'tide box in the window' means, qand I guarantee you'd get a laugh.

Hell, in esquimalt, we used to go to the carlton club the weekend a ship left for deployment... Real dive bar, 99% native chicks and white trash any other day. All of a sudden, it's like soccer moms slipping into their 10 year old coctail dresses.

Thats why any girl who can tell you what your rank is gets an automatic next

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Yeah, I'm CF as well. You're absolutely right amigo. The other one I've heard of is guys leaving unit stickers under the bedframe or behind the headboard of the bed when they bang wifey.

[–]Dev_on 7 points7 points [recovered]

that must be an army thing. We only did that when brow staff would let us roam around on your ship when we shouldn't have been.

But yeah, I know some people on here think the military is a way to get alpha... I disagree, it's a place to see if you are or not. Because you will hit one end of the spectrum, no middle ground

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yeah - Dudes in Petawawa would come back from deployment and find airborne stickers under their bedframes or behind the headboard.

To me, a good portion of the military is fucking Beta. I'm an NCM (WO, acting as a CSM) and to my close civvie friends who don't understand what I do, I describe myself as "the house negro" for the officers.


But, I like the job, great pay and benefits, and it is a great way to get paid to stay fit.

Meanwhile I see officers crawling over themselves to fit in, social climb, licking their boss's ass, etc. Doesn't strike me as Alpha behaviour personally.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (7 children)

What does the tide box mean?

[–]Dev_on 10 points10 points [recovered]

you're spoiling the fun.

When you live in a PMQ (military housing) a lot of the guys would go off for sails, tours etc. Wifey would be lonely, and depending on the base, place a different box of detergent in her window, signalling that hubby was off on something...

I've only really been in Esquimalt, so Tide was what we always talked about. Though I'd gander someone from wainright, Borden, Pedawawa or Halifax would have better stories. Those are more rural areas for bases, with a lot more bullshit wife stories

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I heard Petawawa was like that.

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yup, Pet is definitely like that. Apparently the medics on base would find STD rates would spike midway through the six-month period where a battalion was deployed away... Both soldiers (not deployed) and dependants would come in more frequently with itches, new bumps, or drip drip drip issues.

[–]tompanz 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That shit is so common, it's predictable. I remember when I deployed with my guys, I took a count of everyone in a relationship. Within a few months , half of them had broken up because of cheating. By the time we got back there were only a handful of people that hadn't broken up with their slutfriends.

[–]plentyoffishes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This happens all the time. Military "marriages" are a joke, both parties are usually fucking around and hiding it- the military marriage is an unnatural arrangement, where the spouse is gone for months at a time and visits home are short, "cheating" is a natural consequence.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

In the US during WW2 there are tons of stories about German POWs hooking up with local women while American GIs were overseas putting everything on the line.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It went both ways, I assure you. In Britain, they referred to the Yanks as 'over-sexed and over here'.

[–]2comment 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually the Danish killed a number of the resulting war children (and refugee children) at the end of the war: http://www.spiegel.de/international/denmark-s-myths-shattered-a-legacy-of-dead-german-children-a-355772.html

I'm sure the mothers were often more brutalized in unpublished cases. At the end of the day, doesn't matter the army, some women fuck foreign soldiers no matter where they hail from.

[–]asdfghjkltyu[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Willing to bet that she was already fucking the other dude.

Yep. That was the biggest example of trickle truth.

[–]thefisherman1961 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Let inner peace rule your soul; karma will take care of the rest."

-Don, Trailer Park Boys

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Months later he ended up stealing $5k from her and fucking off to the West coast.

ANybody here remember Sam Kinison's Wild Thing video?

[–]caucasianinasia 170 points171 points  (10 children)

Maybe he has visited TRP but is following the first rule.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 112 points113 points  (7 children)

More people could stand to follow his example if you ask me.

[–]RemyPrice 75 points76 points  (6 children)

I used to tell people about TRP.

I quickly put an end to that bullshit.

[–]Dev_on 9 points9 points [recovered]

good. I hate those guys...

It's always the guys who don't know what they are doing also. you don't see roosh doin that shit

[–]foomfoomfoom 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I don't hate anyone going through a natural phase of knowledge. That's part of their learning process. Just because someone is awkward now doesn't mean they'll stay awkward.

[–]PedroIsWatching 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Roosh does, he just tries to charge money first.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I told a friend of mine about it.

First he said it was all bullshit.

A month later he started telling ME about it.

I don't know what kind of friends you guys have. I had trust in this dude and theredpill totally changed him.

[–]nothere_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lol, trp meta is unironically like 4chan was back in it's infancy with it's "anon" culture.

[–]RojoEscarlata 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if he did he wouldn't be asking those chumps advice. He just seems naturally masculine.

[–]foldpak111 73 points74 points  (4 children)

It's funny how people condemn the red pill, yet when you leave out all the terminology, everyone agrees with it. This guy is everything that embodies TRP.

[–]putsch80 78 points78 points [recovered]

I'm guessing he was not alpha when they entered their relationship. He mentions that she tried to talk him into the open relationship by telling him that he looks much better now that he works out, and would therefore have an easier time getting other girls. She saw him as a BB, and saw the guy at work as the AF that she wanted to fuck before "settling down" with her BB/boyfriend in marriage. What she failed to realize was that her boyfriend was no longer the BB that she entered into the relationship with. That failure cost her.

[–][deleted] 105 points106 points  (35 children)

I think the best moral of this story that I can obtain is that AF and BB fluctuate in a woman's mind. The mere fact that she "had" OP was enough to put him into the BB camp. The mere fact that she did not have and thus was playing flirt games with Chad at work is enough to put him in the AF camp. AF/BB is contextual. OP very well could have been the better looking higher status male, but when hamsters spin they spin. Women always want more.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 26 points27 points  (1 child)

So correct. In many cases one woman's AF is another woman's BB.

However, it's important to remember that a BB by nature will rarely raise to AF without great effort. An AF can easily become a BB in a girls eyes with one wrong move.

[–]thefisherman1961 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Breaking frame is always my downfall. Always.

[–]bonekeeper 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It was probably just due to group mentality and/or peer pressure that she thought work guy was attractive. If every woman in the floor talks about him and wants the guy, hell, she will want him too just because it is fashionable in her group.

[–]hatraddit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is one of the most important lessons to learn. Very well said!

[–]TRAPPED_IN_CONFETTI 9 points10 points  (28 children)

I will give her slight credit for not just fucking Chad anyway behind his back. Not saying that that actually deserves credit, but she did confront him, atleast. And got fucking burned for it like she deserved.

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (25 children)

This is assuming she hadn't already fucked Chad and the open relationship proposition wasn't simply part of the massive hamstering process.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (24 children)

If your long term gf is suddenly trying to get you laid by other girls, yeah shes getting plowed like a corn field. No doubt about it.

[–]rygar_the_red 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Yeah, this story looks a lot like she's trying to get his approval so she doesn't have to worry about getting caught.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's no point in thinking otherwise. Then you just get into the are they really that bad loop, and you're half way back to blue pill. The facts speak for themselves. No real interpretation is needed here.

[–]Dev_on 1 points1 points [recovered]

doubts got nothing to do with it.

if she was clever enough to do it without giving off signs or getting caught, good on her...

but at the same time, once she opened her mouth, all he needs to know, the rest is just speculation. We don't need to invent stuff here, this kind of thing sells itself

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

We don't need to invent women's nature, it already exists. We are here because we've come to terms with how women work. There's no point waffling and giving them the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise why be here in the first place?

[–]Dev_on 1 points1 points [recovered]

Thats what I'm saying. Bro machismo in here really speculate far more than needed.

And it's not benefit of the doubt... This example is clearly enough, we don't need to speculate on whether she already has been or not. It doesn't even matter. There was a line, she crossed, he acted in his own best interest.

We don't need to start going down the rabbit hole. She was already doing X, had a nefarious plan to talk him into an open so she could sleep with some dude without looking bad. He was obviously interested, because ...

So many assumptions, so much overestimating this girl (clearly a case of short term hednonism, not master planning evil) when we really don't need it.

We are here in the first place for pragmatism, not because a cynical explanation is more palatable than a nice, cheery one. That would just be replacing one betabux mindset with another one.

Again, we aren't inventing womens nature, and all women are capable of that... But they aren't all doing it all the time, we just have to be aware.

If you'll forgive the similie, it's like a poker game. you know the basics, 7-2 offsuit is the worst hand, what hands beat which... you don't have to speculate on what the other guy is holding, you just play the odds, between your hand, and the cards on the table, and know theres a good chance you should fold, or go all in.

But sitting here and speculating on every hand you fold is because the other guy had a royal flush is silly

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Some of that holds weight and some doesn't. To deny clearly defined patterns of behavior because it's speculation is obtuse. To do otherwise is akin to unicornism. I think it's helpful to speculate because men always want to believe the best about women. That's possibly the most blue of the blue pill behaviors. Anything that counteracts that tendency is value added. Maybe it's unnecessary for the more seasoned RPers. But most men here probably aren't very seasoned. Not second guessing what we know about women's nature will take men further in the long run. Even if it isn't optimal in all scenarios.

[–]Dev_on 1 points1 points [recovered]

what the fuck pedantry is this?

we have obvervable information, it's enough to draw a conclusion, the rest is guesswork, and not needed. Keep it simple, keep it correct. There will be tons of examples of the rest of it. Theres no shortage of it coming throuhg here.

Like I said. You don't have to sell this stuff, it sells itself

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Idk that I'd personally say good on her for being a lying shit head.

[–]Dev_on 1 points1 points [recovered]

depends on who you ask. If she was sleeping around, she's happy, other guy is happy, the only one not happy would be OP.

It's why women aren't evil, and you don't need the anger over them etc... just realize sometimes other peoples strategy doesn't benefit you. But to call it objectively wrong isn't helpful, and is just a fancy way of saying 'she is a bitch lesbian' every time you get shot down at a bar... It's more ego protection than anything.

Thats why the best field reports are like these: Guy says as little as he needs to, bends on things not important, doesn't budge on things that are. The older european man who cut his sons fience out of his trust fund, this guy (theres been a few of these on relationships already)

They aren't mad, they don't call the girl evil, and they sure as hell don't say she was wrong. They flat out say, 'not for me' and wish them well.

Getting angry feeds the drama, and shows that you aren't in abundance mentality. It shouldn't make you any madder than when your sister steals a candy out of your candy bowl... Theres a bowl full of candy, you shrug and grab a different one

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children)

When you agree to an exclusive relationship you should abide by it. That's the issue here. If you aren't going to stick with it then leave it open, as she did at the end. But to say it's fine if someone backs out of an arrangement seems hypocritical.

[–]Dev_on 3 points3 points [recovered]


that word has no place here. The world should be a happy place, where everyone recieves dignity and finds a girl.

The world is, and will never should. It's best to deal with it as such, instead of hoping for utopia, and subsequently getting angry every time you are let down by the world.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I believe, if anything, this just asserts how comfortable she is with Open Hypergamy. She is so sure that her sexual strategy is the correct and operative one that she didn't even really think about lying to get what she wants. A simple "Honey will you be my cuck" is enough now a days.

[–]thefisherman1961 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And now the hamster tells her that the next time she's in that situation, to just be dishonest and not inform her boyfriend that she's cheating.

[–]mryddlin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He mentions that she tried to talk him into the open relationship by telling him that he looks much better now that he works out, and would therefore have an easier time getting other girls.

this is pretty normal btw, most guys do not really come into their own until last 20's early 30's (I hit mine around 32-33).

Like many people here, we spent our 20's working on our skill sets and not on our physical appearance and game.

I've got money now, so I have nice clothes and learned how to polish myself up, I look better than I ever have and now I've started lifting (38), should be an interesting run after this as I'm already doing well.

God I'm looking forward to getting a build, I haven't had one since 18-19.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 110 points111 points  (1 child)

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[–]1DRMMR76 45 points46 points  (4 children)

I'd bet money she already cheated in some way. Maybe not sex. But at very least kissing, raunchy texting, planning to fuck, etc. This was a CYA move on her part to make it ok after the fact. If a woman has gotten to the point of outright asking for an open relationship, she already opened it up and is just looking to feed the hamster and make it ok.

"I want an open relationship"="I'm breaking up with you but still want you to buy me shit". Any man who doesn't immediately hear what she's really saying and act accordingly is in for a world of pain

[–]ChadThundercockII 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Now she is the one buying him shit. The dude was doing everything right. This shows that no one can defeat the hamster, unless you train with the masters of hamsterkeido.

[–]suddenlytrp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah someone commented above with the same opinion. Trickle truth for sure. She was already cheating in some way.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I think it hit her that she sacrificed an exclusive relationship with an alpha because she wanted to have her cake and eat it too. Worse, she's 28 years old and on the verge of hitting the wall, so she's probably gonna have to settle for a beta bucks if she wants kids. Meanwhile, her ex-boyfriend will likely spend the next little while banging hot women in the 19-24 age range.

Wanting the cake and eating it too is SUCH a temptation. For some reason they always think they either deserve it, or even if they don't, they can get it anyway.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 33 points34 points  (3 children)

That's feminism for you. Women have always been entitled. But feminism legitimized that entitlement under the banner of 'empowerment'.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 9 points10 points  (2 children)

feminism legitimized that entitlement under the banner of 'empowerment'.

It's weird. I knew a kid once who had an abusive mother, no father. He had NO CONCEPT of what was fair or of when someone was being straight with him v when someone was fucking with him.

It's almost like there was no difference between the two. But I know women aren't missing that part of their brains. Because oftentimes they'll call me out, and I'll claim I'm walking the line of propriety. They will then WATCH ME LIKE A HAWK, to see if I step over that line.

So they know of it, are even hyperaware of where it exists. It just seems to be a matter of complete indifference to them.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's not indifference the way I see it; it's strategic. /u/IllimitableMan says it best: "Machiavellianism is a female instinct and a male art form". They call it out when it works to their advantage and condone it when it doesn't. Their capacity to do so is inherent.

[–]Saiserit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now some they do and some they don't. And some you just can't tell. And some they will and some they won't. With some it's just as well.

[–]Tarnsman4Life 39 points40 points  (2 children)

I am at a point in my life where I am happy with how things with just me are. I know I am an awesome person, and I don't need to convince anyone to stay.

That right there; fuck if its snowing, raining, hot, cold, bitches, no bitches, married, divorced, LTR, single, be happy with you, by yourself and the rest is gravy. Let all that does not truly matter slide.

If a woman steps off and then tries to step back, I don't care if its the mother of your children NEXT.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner[S] 46 points47 points  (1 child)

As a wise man once said, "Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it."

[–]crazypsycho 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Pretty much the essence of vipassana meditation.

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[–]ECoast_Man 29 points30 points  (6 children)

Loved this. Wow.

I bet half of our subscribers aren't half as TRP as this dude.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 73 points74 points  (19 children)

Then she started saying that I worked out so much, and look so much better, now than when I first got with her, now was my chance to get some more action etc. 

Evil little spiders. She didn't want to lose her man, so she tried to convince him that he should be out there. Fucking like Christopher Columbus in America.

This is why women will never outgrow men. They need us, they can only move under our shadow. Never in the light.

Independent my ass. These bitches are always trying to one up you. Beware of any women trying to sell you something, any friendly woman.

Swindlers, the lot of em.

[–]cariboo_j 26 points27 points  (15 children)

MGTOW is starting to look more and more appealing. The more I reflect on my own experiences with girlfriends and even female relatives, and read the experiences of other men, the more I think to myself "I don't need all those mind games, manipulation and henpecking."

Nothing so extreme as completely swearing off sex, but limiting my interactions enough to avoid dealing with the hamster. No matter how alpha you are, the constant grinding and misdirection is bound to affect your mental health if you spend too much time around it.

I'm surprised more men on this sub don't come to the same conclusion.

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 31 points32 points  (9 children)

Not all MGTOW are celibate. We just don't even bother to chase pussy. For many of us, if it falls in our lap, then so be it but most of us don't approach, don't game, etc.

If you're a man of accomplishment and quality - a self improvement focus that many (but admittedly not all) MGTOW pursue - then broads will come to you.

Three most common traits of MGTOW are they will 1. Never marry, 2. Never cohabit, and 3. Never procreate.

How do I know this? I mod at one of the three largest MGTOW forums, and read every single user intro biography.

[–]cariboo_j 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Oh I'm aware. I've been following bar bar, stardusk and spetznaz on youtube for a while. They've really changed my outlook on life for the better.

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Cool, glad to hear it! The majority of guys subbed to TRP think MGTOW = celibate, it's good to see you're not considering it on any false premises.

[–]falafin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

bar bar, stardusk and spetznaz on youtube for a while. They've really changed my outlook on life for the better.

Thanks for sharing it, I've never really read too much about MGTOW but I'm surely gonna check those channels and see what they talk about.

[–]cariboo_j 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the 2nd page of my comments history I posted a best of stardusk and bar bar. The stardusk compilation is really long but worth a watch.

[–]mryddlin 0 points1 point  (2 children)

  1. Never procreate.

this is the hardest one to give up for me to be honest. I have a 9 year old autistic son, love him to death and he is doing well (put in a lot of effort and it's paying off, thank god he is fucking smart) but I do want more children.

I just don't want them in this environment not with how the legal structures currently exist.

I'm hoping that the legal context of marriage and how they work etc will be one of the outputs of this social trend.

Heinlein novels always touched base, and other scifi, of the marriage contract being disconnected from the religious concept and negotiated before entering the relationship, with renewal and early termination clauses, how children will be raises and provided for etc.

The fairy tale, disney princess wedding concept of marriage, which is all it is now, has to die.

[–]cariboo_j 2 points3 points  (1 child)

this is the hardest one to give up for me to be honest.

MGTOW is just the conclusion that avoiding marriage and children will lead to a happier life.

It's not some ideology you have to force yourself to follow if you don't want to. If you feel like you're giving up something really important, maybe MGTOW isn't for you.

[–]mryddlin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh I agree and it's only in the context of how society isn't setup to support people having children.

I've already accepted that having more kids just isn't in the cards right now, not until something changes where I feel I can't just be cut out at a moments notice.

The environment just isn't good for it. I do believe that MGTOW is one of the best solutions to the current problem.

Simply stop engaging in the crapfest is probably the only way to end it.

thanks for the reply, have a good one.

[–]_the_shape_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As ChairBorneMGTOW wrote below, don't bother chasing pussy. To put it another way, you are a girl's Alpha Fux, or nothing at all, and from experience, it's a billion times more enjoyable than the bullsh1t of "dating" and the faggotry that is "the courting process". Fuck all of that.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm of the same belief. My female relatives are a huge pain just to talk to.

If I go mgtow, I'd still hold red pill techniques and beliefs at heart.

It's useless trying to control women, they don't be the same, we won't like em different.

The only thing you can do is control their perspective of you. Which is a great thing because women take the second stand in social settings.

Don't talk too much, keep on a stoic face, steel yourself like you're a Godsend.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"I don't need all those mind games, manipulation and henpecking."

Yes. The self-created drama is what gets me. That and their inability to grasp the concept of synonyms. They just make things a whole lot more difficult than they really need to be.

Replying to another thread I had the analogy of two buckets. One was filled with water and the other had but a few drops. The few drops represents all the good stuff you get by dealing with the full bucket of their shitty, childish, manipulative behavior. It just isn't worth the hassle.

MGTOW is my rules, my way. It's so peaceful, quiet and drama-free. No headaches, no hassles, no child support, no alimony, no divorce rape.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Honestly most shit tests are easy and shouldn't require much if any mental work. The point is too get good at catching and dealing with them. Besides when you advance in rank or status in an organization you will play political games and mind games if you want to keep advancing.

[–]RP_Vergil 15 points16 points  (2 children)

She is hinting him to go Cheat, to justify her to cheat. Yet later on the consent will be taken back.

"You Man only think with your Dick! How could you cheat on me! I was just exploring myself more before we get married! Isn't that the best deal for you?"

Yah right bitch, you don't fuck around to level up your head giving or riding skills. This ain't a RPG. If you want to claim it is, alright your class is the "Whore".

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 11 points12 points  (1 child)


I just hate how these whores have a backup for everything. "I cheated? No, that was just me exploring myself. Not you though, you cheated."

"I'm sorry I hit you, in passionate, I'm just passionate. Not you though, you're a wife beater."these whack jobs have such fine tuned public relations skills is scary.

One girl I dated, didn't believe in God. But she blamed God for making her Chinese, instead of white. She had such a stigma, but it wasn't her fault. It was god's. Hasha....

[–]watersign 23 points24 points  (4 children)

if the guys gf was in her early 20s she wouldnt be going all bat shit crazy. she knows the wall is coming and she just went full speed into it by being a whore

[–]tompanz 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I doubt she was seriously having a mental breakdown. She was just using the final tool in her arsenal: woman tears. She was banking on him giving her a shoulder to cry on, then her tears would lower his testosterone and would make him think less rationally.

I have no doubt in my mind that when she realized he was wasn't coming back , she got over him with fast with that Chads cock.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is just how a natural alpha acts. It's nothing miraculous, just a guy with value who knows it enough to let go of things that don't serve him anymore.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (5 children)

The sub hates infidelity, but it's always: give HER another chance, talk to her, rub her back and listen to her feelings!!

but when HE cheats, it's dump his sorry ass and divorce-rape him if you're married!

[–]StarDestinyGuy 23 points24 points  (4 children)

It wasn't this time - everyone in the comments on patting the guy on the back basically.

[–]tompanz 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I'm suprised. I thought her crying would get those white knights worked up for sure.

[–]Dev_on 5 points5 points [recovered]

usually it has to get brigaded by a Fem sub for that.

Most people on there are probably the average schlub, they just want stories of the good guy winning.

[–]tompanz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I wonder if the people on those subs have commented on this story?

[–]Chaohinon 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Man, I wish I could go back in time and listen to my gut when my girlfriend started on this same track. Eerily similar story, except she was more into the waif - thin jobless hippy free spirit type. Same bullshit lines too, "you look so much better than when we first started dating, all my friends think you're hot, etc."

Except, instead of doing what this guy did, I went full beta and tried to talk it out with and support her. Suddenly I'm blindsided with the non-married equivalent of a divorce-rape, complete with fake victim status and everything.

Never again.

[–]1cover20 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. I had not focused on those parts of the story.

[–]juanlee337 13 points14 points  (6 children)

I would done things differently. I would agreed to her request But in the condition that we have a thrersome involving a girl 1st.. Then once that is accomplish.. Then Get the Fuck out...

Does that make a bad person? Lol.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner[S] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

In this day and age, I'd be scared to pull something like that. She might be so angry that she'd decide to get back at you by falsely accusing you of rape.

[–]iLLprincipLeS 3 points4 points  (1 child)

or she would just carve your name on her hands and bleed till death.

[–]1cover20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being a bad person is OK once she starts the ball rolling like that. But he just didn't aspire to that kind of threesome drama. Different strokes, one not better than the other.

[–]R3v4mp3d 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Would have played along: double teamed her with her co-worker; threesomed with her and a hot friend of her (each chick has AT LEAST one hot friend).

At this point she's already been downgraded to plate (but she doesn't know it yet). When she starts seeing it, I'll just laugh it off and end the relationship or keep it going with crazy sex but in a clear FWB fashion which will end in a few months since it's hard to morally detach after a few years of LTR.

Thus, I get a win-win situation where I also try some kinky shit (never did a threesome neither FFM nor MMF).

Quick edit: yes, the guy is 100% genuine, pure breed, natural alpha! Kudos for that and I hope that nothing skews his view on things.

[–]bubbleki 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Funny thing is when people are so surprised by "redpill" behavior. "Redpill" behavior is natural and it comes from being raised in a good home with good parenting practices. It isn't unique. It is the natural order.

[–]RompeChocha 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There was this guy on r/relationship who's wife wants an open relationship. But he doesn't. The thing is she's wanted an open relationship before they even got married and he still married her!

I pointed it out like it was a dumb move on his part, and got downvoted..

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it hit her that she sacrificed an exclusive relationship with an alpha because she wanted to have her cake and eat it too

Dunno about the alpha thing, I think it hit her that she overplayed her hand by assuming her relationship was a sure thing. This kind of thing seems to happen with all women who aren't ready yet to exit the relationship themselves or can't do it on their own terms (i.e. branch-swing)

A friend of mine has met that problem twice - the first time it was with his girlfriend of 2 years where the relationship already had its dents and where he admitted to her that another girl had a crush on him and he was sorely tempted to break up, and his GF guilt-tripped him into staying (crying, bad conscience etc.) only to break up with him a few months later after she secured a new guy.

A girlfriend he had years after that had grown to disdain him and treated him supremely shitty, but lost her shit once he finally got a grip on himself (and a new girl he could branch-swing to) and told her it's over. Suddenly one could have meant that he was the love her life and the best thing that could have ever happened to her. Fortunately he dumped her anyway, sadly the woman after that arguably was even worse.

But regardless - in both cases the women didn't see him as the best thing since sliced bread and also weren't happy in the relationship, yet none of them wanted to be the one who got dumped first.

[–]LadyLumen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This girl screwed herself over so close to the wall. She was trying to have her cake and eat it (have a secure beta bucks in her pocket while banging the hot alpha at work), but her boyfriend was more of a man that she realized.

At her age it's probably going to be hard for her to get into a relationship with anyone better, and she knows that. Which is why she's going crazy.

Meanwhile this guy isn't worried because he's in his prime. He could totally end up with a hotter, younger and more faithful woman.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

On the issue of password security I recommend KeePass.

Make a new strong unforgettable password. Make that the password that unlocks KeePass and have it generate and store all your others.

Currently I have 5 passwords memorized; Dropbox (to sync keypass), email (convenience), KeePass, home computer login, phone pattern lock. KeePass does the rest.

It is paramount that no one ever gets access to your email. From there they can reset most of your passwords I have a unique account name on a game (that I no longer play) every month I get an email from someone trying to reset my password and steal my account. No one will ever value your personal security as much as you. Don't trust your gf or wife. "Sorry honey I forgot to log out" is the only comfort your negligence will bring.

[–]LarryLove 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The guy is smart enough to realize what a shitty deal he's getting and bails from the relationship. Like I said: Red pill as fuck. I don't think it sunk into her, until like the day after when I deleted her off social media.

Man good for him, I wish I knew then what I know now. I thought my slutty ex would come to her senses and see how great I though I was and come running back to me. She didn't come to her senses, but I came to mine.

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my question is: why is this even in the relationship sub? i mean.. isn't he going to get banned from there for doing something like this?

also, If a women is scorned... there is no stopping her, she will find a way.

[–]Totsean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here is what I try, I just experiment various RP techniques IRL. I keep rotating plates and add new plates every week. And I tell them, you're free to fuck other men but you have to tell me if you're fucking. I do it as a challenge and as an exit since each plate shell life is few fucks, I can afford to me loose.

And it works, they're generally afraid to do it meanwhile I update them on the women I sleep with, but the charm and everything they experience with me is so strong they're just forced to stick with me.

Even when they're being told by their bitchy friends. It's truly amazing when you don't need others validation. When someone says, oh you're a hottie or cute or handsome, I just say, I know I am.

And the dominant trait is so high that it can be sensed via text or woman generally just sense it.

But yeah, that dude made the right call! Kudos.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"And honestly, I am at a point in my life where I am happy with how things with just me are. I know I am an awesome person, and I don't need to convince anyone to stay."

This. Perfect mindset to have. "Okay honey. You don't like the way things are then there's the door."

[–]bourbonhipster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

good for him, i just wanted to mention, if you ever peruse /rpolygamy - most of the posts there tend to sound a lot like this same desperate story. Its a really depressing place to wander into by accident.

[–]garlicextract 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it hit her that she sacrificed an exclusive relationship with an alpha because she wanted to have her cake and eat it too. Worse, she's 28 years old and on the verge of hitting the wall, so she's probably gonna have to settle for a beta bucks if she wants kids. Meanwhile, her ex-boyfriend will likely spend the next little while banging hot women in the 19-24 age range.

LMAO she fucked up so bad. SO bad. She went all in with an unsuited 2 7.

[–]Shiningknight12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At 28, the girl is probably having a breakdown over the impending wall.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

why is this considered red pill?

isn't this just common sense - whether it happens to a woman or a man? if your significant other starts talking about being with other people, the relationship isn't worth staying in anymore.

[–]Stopher 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think what makes it red pill is because it shows the proper way to handle that situation. Others would try and salvage the relationship. I think he made the right decision in cutting off someone with a gambler mentality.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Breaking up with women gives the ultimate feeling of power.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Only if you have come to resent her.

I had the case once where I broke up with a girl I actually did like, I just wasn't enamored with her and didn't want to drag it out longer than necessary. It didn't give me a feeling of power, it rather gave me a pang of bad conscience.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)


It's the same with being the AF for once, seeing her beta orbiter struggle while wishing he was you.

I always thought that it would be the ultimate feeling of power. Felt like shit.

But to be honest, years later, looking back, yeah, now it feels good thinking about it.

I think the lesson is already in the red pill. You shouldn't be in it for the external validation or to "win" against women and men. That's anger phase thinking.

[–]bitches_be_crazy86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't envy Chad Thunder cock. Become one

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of the time when a woman proposes an "open relationship" or "break" it means she's all ready fucking another dude. Not all the time, but a lot of the time.


Because if she gets permission for this "open relationship" she can continue fucking Chad, guilt-free until she locks him down and/or the boyfriend fizzles out.

If she asks for a "break" it's essentially the same thing, except she's keeping the boyfriend on the back burner incase Chad gives her the next. Again, she'll keep fucking Chad until the boyfriend magically fizzles away.

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