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Field ReportCan I have a cigarette? (self.TheRedPill)

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So I work as a lineman hanging power lines from a helicopter. And my best friend is a chef. We live in a college town so every May college kids graduate and he is BUSY. I worked in kitchens for a lot of my youth and for the past 3 years I help him out on graduation weekend as his assistant. It is kinda fun and nostalgic for me, we get to work together, he pays me cash and I get to eat and drink for free. Why not?

Well this past graduation weekend we are done (its about midnight), the cooks are cleaning the kitchen and we were having a drink outside while we smoked. Outside there is a super hot college aged female surrounded by 4 guys chatting it up. She makes eye contact, smiles but I'm exhausted, I smell bad and I'm just not in the mood to put forth any effort to game her. But me and my buddy talk about her, those 4 idiots trying so hard and how we used to be the same way. We are outside for about 5 minutes when she comes up to us and asks for a cigarette. I respond "only if you show me your tits." She kinda laughs but I think she was more shocked. She says please and I keep saying only if you show me your tits. By this time her white nights come over to save her. One guy starts calling me faggot, one guy offers me $10 for a smoke for her, one guy offers to go buy her some from a gas station and the other tries to convince his friends to fight us... Unbelievable. Me and my friend start laughing and walk away. She then says "wait, how long do I have to show them to you?" I was kinda surprised, and didn't really believe her but I played along and respond with "long enough so I can get a good look but nothing obscene, its just a cig." Her gang of guys all start complaining; "don't do it, you are better than that." "You are so beautiful, he is a jerk don't show him your breasts." " I'll buy you a whole pack of cigarettes, don't do that for one."

She asks me where we should go for this to happen and I reply we should do it right here. But, she is hesitant because others might see. I'm not sure but I think she was referring to her idiot orbiters. She'd rather show me, a complete stranger, her tits than her lame guy friends. So we go around the corner, she flashes me her tits for about 10 seconds (longer than I expected), I compliment them, give her a smoke, light it for her and we come back around. My friend has a HUGE grin on his face and the gang of 4 look pissed.

This is where they turn on her, calling her a slut, how could you do that, bla bla bla... Now she is standing next to ME with them across from us. I speak loud and commanding, "that's enough, I think you guys need to go." They walk away bitching and moaning but walk away nonetheless. I get her name, introduce myself, and introduce her to my friend. He says he owns the place, is the chef and offers to buy her a drink. We all go inside get drunk and I take her home that night.

I was just trying to fuck with her for my own sick amusement and it worked out better than i imagined. I think it worked because she is gorgeous and always gets what she wants from men. I didn't cave.

Its been 2 weeks and we've hooked up a few more times. When she wants dick she always sends me a text -- "can I have a cigarette?"

EDIT:: I just want to say that I've it go the other way too. I received some PMs asking if was just that easy. This time it was but I've said smart ass things and had drinks thrown in my face, been called a pig, a creep and others. So don't think being smart ass will work with everyone. The point of my post was that I was having fun. I enjoy being a smart ass. I work a blue collar job, with a bunch of high testosterone guys. That is what I do all day. Give people shit. I gave this girl a hard time and it worked. Lots of people call bullshit, and I guess you are entitled to your opinion but I have better things to do with my time than to make up stories online. Anyway someone asked for a picture if she texted me. She is usually my Monday and Tuesday girl but she texted me last night.

http://imgur.com/Fqr3bWo


[–]unassumingusername7 173 points174 points  (36 children)

I might've taken the $10 for a cig. Good job holding out for more.

[–][deleted]  (10 children)

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    [–]rpreader 61 points62 points  (0 children)

    I love that. It wasn't about gaining anything of value. It was just for the sheer sport of it.

    [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 153 points154 points  (3 children)

    So you valued her more than $10, but not as much as $20.

    Sounds about right.

    [–]through_a_ways 89 points90 points  (2 children)

    Exactly 17 dollars, I'm guessing.

    Now that's gangsta.

    [–]wolfNshepherd 21 points22 points  (0 children)

    According to my calculations, the value of two boobs for ten seconds, in proximity to four beta white knights, accounting for one cigarette and massive personal satisfaction, comes out to exactly $17.4242111, rounded down to the nearest cent.

    [–]Reanimate_87 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Playfulness like that asks for a certain amount of not being attached to an outcome. The result being people get sucked into your frame like a black hole, given the right situation. Girl reacts > guys react > girl get's turned on even more. Lovely.

    [–]michaelconnery1985 6 points7 points  (3 children)

    The thing is though, you have to be very thankful that your friend is like you. Imagine if he was like one of those white knights and gave the gal a cig while looking at you oddly. You would be the one sticking out sorely and she would have went on her merry way.

    [–]R1fle 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    At the end of the day. He still has all his cigarettes. Fuck the world, and his bitch friend for being a white knight over a bro.

    Would you want to fit in at a My Little Pony convention?

    Would you want to fit in with a bunch of white knight betas?

    Exactly.

    [–]michaelconnery1985 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    That's not my point. My point is that OP won the situation because his friend was on his side. Imagine this scenario:

    Girl:" Can I have a cigarette?"

    OP:" Not unless you show me your tits"

    Friend:" Woah! Hey there man, there's no way to treat a woman!" Hands over a cig to her, while giving OP a quizzical look

    Girl:" Wow, thanks!" stalks off squinting at OP and rejoins the other 4 guys

    OP still has his cigarettes, maintains frames, may be the AF in the group, but at the end of the day, the girl finds him an asshole and he loses the situation. Yet, the situation is completely different if the friend plays along with OP. Girl gets drawn into the whole mysterious thingamajig and getting high on the 'play-hard-to-get'. It's a very fine line.

    [–]waitfor_ittt 85 points86 points  (22 children)

    I was at a party where the beer was dying out, but I had a case in hand for me and my buds. Jokingly I was trying to sell single beers for 40$. A lot of people thought it was funny, some bros didn't appreciate it but whatever.

    So this chick comes up to me, gets in my face in a charmy way, and a) asks for a beer with batty eyes and without hesitation b) asks for a drag of my cigarette.

    I say "40 bucks."

    She gets all pouty, "Come onnnn, I'll give you a kiss on the cheek."

    I stand there, motionless, and say "No."

    Her friend, watching the whole thing, pulls her away and is like, "Come on Gina..."

    It's awesome when you realize these chicks think that they can get things just for having vaginas, it's even more awesome when you realize it and shut them down for it.

    [–]exuals 27 points28 points  (15 children)

    Side story: I've sold beer at 250% markup past bar close times. Pretty sure it's the concept of bootlegging but damn, it's a profit.

    [–][deleted] 80 points81 points  (11 children)

    That's not bootlegging, that's capitalism.

    [–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (9 children)

    Lots of people rag on capitalism and our society, but I think it's one of the strongest foundations of manliness around. Feelings don't factor in - it's all about what you have and what others will do for it. Very stoic, in a way.

    [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (8 children)

    Those who complain about capitalism are the weak. Those who didn't work harder than the guy next to them.

    It is quintessential manliness.

    [–]2wiseclockcounter 22 points23 points  (3 children)

    there's a limit. fair competition among men- all fine and good. rampant exploitation born of greed? well, i'd personally like to think manliness and nobleness are tied more closely than that.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    So those with a means to make money are supposed to just stop when they're "too rich" and becoming greedy? Because I know someone will pay 15$ for product why should I charge 10$?

    At what point is it greedy to earn more? When the man in the gutter thinks he deserves some? If people aren't legitimately stealing from others it just sounds like they're jealous.

    [–]KenuR 9 points10 points  (3 children)

    Nothing more manly than inheriting a fortune from your granddad and not having to work for the rest of your life. Or sitting your ass off, signing papers and shit because you're the "boss" while these kids break their backs making you money just so they don't starve. Yay capitalism!

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    Then their granddad earned that money, or someone did. If someone happens to inherit money so what? You just sound jealous of what you don't have.

    You sign off on papers as a fat old man because your company sees you as worth the money they pay you, while the laborers are only worth what they sell their work for.

    [–]KenuR 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    This is what you said

    Those who complain about capitalism are the weak.
    Those who didn't work harder than the guy next to them.

    Did young Mr. Moneybags work more than I did? No.
    Does it make him more manly than me? No.
    Does he deserve that money? No.

    Does the boss in my example work more than his underlings? No.
    Does that make him more manly than them? No.
    Does he get an unfair cut of what they should be earning? Yes.

    I'm not poor or work in some office or anything, but even if I was jealous that would have fuck all to do with the topic at hand. Lazy, greedy, evil fucks all over the world try to find the best way to fuck people over with the least amount of effort. Capitalism is a platform that allows for maximum productivity and at the same time encourages everyone to step on each other's toes either by virtue of the system or in a conscious effort.

    You can say that it works, the best alternative blablabla but I can't see why anyone would outright praise it and assign it ridiculous qualities.

    Your definition of manliness seems to resemble what I would call "the biggest cunt". Maybe you want to live in a world where the stronger prey on the weakest because you think that you can be a bigger, badder cunt than that other guy, but to me honor and altruism are far more desirable traits.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    You're entire reply illustrates my point. Manliness is taking ownership for what you've done, for what you've earned. You're jealous. Back breaking labor may be hard, but the guy with an MBA from Harvard still calls the shots. Maybe he had some hook ups from his frat, maybe daddy got him into the school. But guess what? He got farther in society than the laborer. You live in a world where we assume the landscaper works as hard as the CEO, but you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what high level business people do. They make extremely important decisions that your average Joe the plumber wouldn't know shit about (whether you think stressful decisions is hard work or not, it takes its toll). Look at the average number of hours high level executives work; I promise they're doing over 50.

    My point is: You reap what you sow. There's no good excuse not to excel except for a personal failure. To blame the greed of others is childish and a failure to take responsibility for your own choices. In our country you can get loans to go to school, you can work hard for a good GPA and get a good job. And any "the job market sucks" excuse screams "I didn't work harder than the other guy so here I am waiting tables".

    Look at anybody you know who failed in life, there's a reason for it. And if you yourself did (you sound really upset about all this) take a good look in the mirror.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    That's called sly grog...at least here in Australia

    [–]NAmember81 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    When my friends and I went to a Christian "athletes week" (lots of cheerleader) we smuggled 2 cases of old English 40s in and said "dollar an once."

    Within a couple days we were all out. Supply and demand.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I used to do this, although I wasn't making anywhere near that kind of profit. I'd look out for the dented cans of beer from the supermarket that were cheap as hell, or stuff they had to get rid of because it was approaching the sell-by date. Then, I'd go into town and sell them to people waiting in line for clubs.

    [–]waitfor_ittt 42 points43 points  (1 child)

    I almost forgot to add the disappointment on her face was priceless.

    [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    Try being the sober guy who drove to a party out in the middle of nowhere. Once people catch on there's a driver, the whores will come out. It's like it's just genetically programmed to try and scam you

    [–]Endorsed ContributorRed_August 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This is the kind of epiphany that will stick with you for the rest of your life. That moment when you finally see the pedestal for the first time. This reminds me many, many moons ago when I was a young 21 year old man on holiday with my buddies on some party island in Greece and I finally had an awakening. We stood in line to get quick on-the-spot Tequilla slammers from a tiny bar. There was a single line/queue of mostly guys taking turns taking a shot at the bar. Up front and to the side of the bar stood a solid HB9 blond, skinny, fit northern European chick. She asked every second guy or so if he would buy her a drink - often just passing it over to her other less good-looking friends. She was simply fleecing every beta in line to get her and her friends drunk on a factory-industrial scale. I had time to witness this scene as i got closer to the bar and felt utter disgust at her fake little come-on and plastic smile. And for the first time, prepared, and as my turn came up, she asked away and I looked at her, took my time and said "no". I didn't let go of my gaze and she looked a little shocked, shook her head as to shake it off and turned away towards her friends with a little scowl. You never forget these little revealing moments that awake you to the realities.

    [–]Masonjarteadrinker2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    A while back me and my boys went to this bar, the line was super long but we waited it out; but the when we were near the front I saw a group of women eyeing us. I called it and told my boy that they were going to want to cut in line with us, within a few minutes they send their most attractive friend to come talk to us, she tells me flirting and all "Hey can me and my girls cut with you guys?" I just responded with this in front of the whole line "Na we're good" and gave her my back.

    The butt hurt with this girl was amazing, felt stupid cause people started laughing quietly and she started saying bs like "You're acting like you're cute" and blah blah blah, shit was hilarious, she must have felt fucken stupid getting rejected, cause I'm sure a ton of dudes are always sucking up to her and hers friends.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    You should try working in a bar. It both annoyed and amused me when some women would ask for a free drink, thinking a smile is adequate payment for booze. I don't know what's more messed up, that they think I'm some sort of desperate prick, or the fact that some guys evidently are desperate pricks because this trick has worked before for them.

    [–]LuvBeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Isn't that the regular price of a cigarette in the US now?

    [–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 176 points177 points  (1 child)

    All kinds of things going exactly right in this FR.

    Feel like somebody could easily do a 2-page analysis on it. But we could also just imagine two sock-puppets talking, sock-puppet Man and sock-puppet Pussy:

    Pussy: Can I have a cigarette?

    Man: Look Pussy, I want you, but I'm too tired to chase and don't give a shit. Tits or GTFO.

    Pussy: Omg, that's hot.

    Pussy throws herself at the man, they lazily exit stage left with her clinging to him.

    [–]_whistler 43 points44 points  (0 children)

    This is better than a two-page write up. Well done.

    [–]waitfor_ittt 217 points218 points  (14 children)

    Great field report. I think this is a good reminder that even though girls have all of these options (she could've gotten a whole pack of cigarettes) she still opts for the tingles sparked from a man who values himself more than her (and will accept a single cigarette).

    [–][deleted] 109 points110 points  (13 children)

    Good girls will be sucking dick on street corners for $10 when the economy collapses and their orbiters are out of jobs.

    [–]whatgold 33 points34 points  (12 children)

    Perhaps, organic local farmers will become kings.

    Tick, tock, tick, tock.

    [–]through_a_ways 33 points34 points  (11 children)

    Organic local farmers with guns, you mean

    [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (4 children)

    Warlords who can steal the food that farmers produce, you mean. I'm not seeing a farmer with a gun fighting off, oh, twenty bandits armed with guns attacking in the middle of the night.

    [–]reddick1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Which is the plot of Seven Samurai.

    [–]Flapflapimabird 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Farmers will have their own gangs, trust me.

    [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    So they'll either pay a warlord for protection, or they become warlords themselves.

    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Check out how it worked in Bosnia, raids on farms stopped once farmers were armed. Besides, take and eat everything and theres no seeds for next year. Everyone starves.

    Avoid short term feminine thinking.

    [–]Semper_I 27 points28 points  (4 children)

    That's literally my plan. A sweet solar cabin in the woods with supplies, orgies and guns...glorious guns.

    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    That's what I'm building, not for the eventual collapse of everything or some shit, but so I can not spend as much money giving it to people who actively try to keep me hooked.

    In five years my land and my new shop will be paid off. I'll be producing home made ethanol to run my vehicles and generator, methane to cook and heat my stills, and greenhouses to grow my food year round. I hope society doesn't collapse, because I can't build my cars without extra parts and supplies.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Yeah man sounds great. I'm sure the collapse of society will occur soon. While you're waiting save me a seat won't ya?

    [–]icecow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    yeah probably the one your in right now

    [–]whatgold 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    When that day comes, it will be like saying computer programmers with computers. A redundant statement. But you're so very correct. Thankfully in the USA we still have a chance at living through the collapse, as of 2015. Hopefully in 50 years mind control will not have progressed enough to convince the majority that ownership of firearms aught to be centralized in the hands of government organizations run by psychopaths.

    [–]SexistFlyingPig 68 points69 points  (0 children)

    The whole point wasn't that she wanted a cigarette. It's that she thought you were hot and wanted an excuse to talk to you. Since you didn't beta up, you sealed the deal.

    Nice FR though.

    [–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (3 children)

    The smoking area is pretty good for seeing dynamics like this play out naturally.

    A woman can INSTANTLY identify any orbiters by asking for free cigarettes or getting others to roll them. I've had it the opposite way too. Beta wants cigarette from me, i say £5 without missing a beat (I didn't want to give any away so i thought i'd be unreasonable with the price to see how desperate they were). He starts arguing over the price, walks away to get his girl-friend to come and bat her eyelashes to get me to give her one for free.

    Obviously she'd get away with this with the same type of people who her friend represented, but when i made it clear having a pair of tits and a vagina wasn't going to get her cheaper cigarettes for her friend she started actually engaging me in a conversation and a drink ignoring her other friends she was with, on the premise that i'd refused to give her something. Obviously the friends shot me dirty looks the entire time but i held my frame.

    Smoking area is sometimes the best place to be for general conversation and even pulling on a night out even if you don't smoke. Just make sure to not be one of those guys offering your shit to people you don't know on the premise that they can fit your dick in them

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      [–]psycho-logical 33 points34 points  (1 child)

      "I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."

      [–]thefisherman1961 20 points21 points  (3 children)

      Awesome. I'm going to try that next time.

      This is where they turn on her, calling her a slut, how could you do that, bla bla bla...

      That's exactly the typical white knight blue pill beta orbiter "nice guy" reaction I would have expected.

      [–]BlackHeart89 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      In my BP days, that was the type of shit to make me go silent and completely ignore a chick. Like thinking to myself...

      "bitch. you just called me yesterday crying about being disrespected and then you pull this shit? I can't deal... kill yourself"

      [–]thefisherman1961 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Right because now you wouldn't listen to her crying about being disrespected in the first place.

      [–]oholandesvoador 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Soo much TRP acronyms in one sentence.

      [–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (12 children)

      God damn some members of my gender are fucking pathetic. I can't be too upset, it just means more room for me at the top, but still I sometimes shake my head and just wonder, "has that strategy ever worked out for you?". If not, why the fuck do you continue to use it?

      [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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        [–]life_manager 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Partly a yes. It's a brainwashing.. years of mom and dad "treat a lady with respect," school having zero tolerance for aggressive behavior, a complete destruction of anything competitive cause of feels, and even young girls are conditioned to think "I want a nice guy." So all these young girls are saying it, all these adults and systems reinforce it, suddenly you think it's true.

        Then some kid with shitty parents comes through with disregard and she can't explain why she's attracted to him.

        [–]ObsidianOne 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        And often it DOES work out, when he's in his 30's and all those post-wall women come flooding him wanting to settle down with him. And he looks at the alphas and smiles and says, "You bad boys were wrong all along, I was right! Women do appreciate nice guys!"

        What is hilarious about this, is I used to actually have this exact train of thought. That when women got older, they'd appreciate me for being the 'nice guy' and things would work out.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        10 years later... try maybe 2-4 years later. I think statistics show that if a marriage passes the 7 year mark it's more likely to last and another milestone being the 14 year mark... means the relationship got past two '7 year itch' periods so it's more likely to stand the test of time.

        That said I notice dudes with sunk cost fallacy on a lot of shit. Like one of my friends he bought a car for like $3000 or something like that and ran it into the ground and now he thinks he can sell it for $3000... LOL.

        [–]ShazzMichaels 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        It's so weird hearing someone say "my gender is weird" and not be a white knight on reddit apologizing for having a penis.

        [–]Heart_Smith 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Before finding TRP the one thing that made me rethink my instincts (TRP pretty much) was the constant blue pill teachings of the other people around me. Whether they be movies, media, authority figures, white knights, women, etc. Its the constant reminding of the idea, do x and you get y (be blue pill and you get woman of your dreams), that makes people stick to it so hard (it hasnt worked yet but ill get y in the end if I keep to it).

        [–]MrShoeguy 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        "...the constant blue pill teachings of the other people around me."

        In all situations and with every issue, understand that what people say has nothing to do with what people believe. People say things because they want you to hear it. Think about that good and hard.

        [–]Heart_Smith 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        So people are spreading blue pill "teachings" to gain social clout in the blue pill world? Or people are spreading it because they want to corral me into blue pill world? I may not understand what you are saying, is this what you meant?

        [–]MrShoeguy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I mean they want to corral you into the blue pill world and get you to do all of that blue pill stuff.

        [–]yaysmr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'll tell you why I did: you convince yourself that if you keep pretending the rules are different, acting like the rules are different, eventually people will see that its better and the rules will change.

        I thought my way was better and that it would be adopted by others once they see how superior it was. But eventually I realized that you only get one chance at the game, and you can't get back all the time you waste complaining about the rules, so you may as well start winning based on the rules as they are.

        [–]2wiseclockcounter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        i think it comes down to a romantic delusion that you're the flogged hero of your own sappy opera. one where suffering at your own hand becomes normal and you get suckered into a victim mentality, too timid to break out and actually do something effectively... at least that's how it was for me at my worst.

        It was easier to regret a moment like I always had than to muster the courage to do something. Pretty fucking sad. It's no wonder beta's are such an easy hook. They have deprived themselves of success for so long that the moment someone lets them taste it, they submit themselves completely, clinging to the hope that they won't fuck it up for themselves.

        Nothing is more useful and less sexy to a woman.

        [–][deleted] 253 points254 points  (52 children)

        Hanging out with women will turn any man into an effeminate man. Ask Bruce Jenner.

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          [–]itsmehobnob 213 points214 points  (32 children)

          trans = mental illness

          Everybody is falling over each other to show how tolerant and open minded they are. They so badly want to be a part of the moral high ground they'll see anything as tragic as opposed to derangement.

          [–]porkmaster 45 points46 points  (16 children)

          well it's like schizophrenia. i don't hate them for their brains being fucked. i feel sorry for 'em. trans is the same way. studies have shown that their brains are actually set up like the opposite sex. there's no real treatment, so sex change is one way to deal with it. i think it looks horrible on 95+% of the people that try it, but a few do manage to pull it off. but i don't hate them for it. at least not any more than i hate fat people or idiots with facial tattoos/floppy stretched out ears.

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            [–]porkmaster 18 points19 points  (3 children)

            i don't think there's any known medicine that can change what's wrong with them. if there was, it could be weaponized and used on enemies to make all their men women.

            [–]LugerDog 10 points11 points  (1 child)

            The Air Force actually researched a "gay bomb". http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb

            [–]larrythetomato 12 points13 points  (0 children)

            I've heard (might be hearsay) that the community is toxic and fucked up. Anyone who shows any inklings will instantly be pounced on and convinced that they are not in the right body and must fix it to feel normal. They might just be a gay guy or a lesbian, or even unsure, but they would be pushed into hormones and surgery to get more poster-boy/girls? to push their cause.

            This study did a long term 30-year review of follow-up studies after sex reassignment. It shows a 19x suicide deaths of post-ops vs control, and a 5x attempted suicide rate after taking into account other factors like psychiatric morbidity (things like depression). That is horrifically large.

            [–]foldpak111 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Shit I can see why too. I can't even count how many Worldstarhiphop videos I've seen if people starting fights with trans. But you hit it on the nail, I feel sorry for them. It's the same thing as depressed people or those who can't sleep, medicate them or the problem will multiply. If you were born male, that's what nature intended you to be. I want to be a chick so I can hit men and throw temper tantrums in public only to be met with no resistance, as an army of beta males swear they will take care of me should anything happen to Chad, but you don't see me chopping my penis off

            [–]rpkarma 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            I hate fat people. They chose to be that way, the others didn't.

            [–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (6 children)

            i think it looks horrible on 95+% of the people that try it, but a few do manage to pull it off.

            Anyone who actually intends to become trans should do so before puberty.

            Testosterone is irreversible and masculinizes the entire body.

            Estrogen closes the growth plates (probably does a shitload of other stuff too)

            It's true that they have brains that are gendered differently. It's amusing how intense the leftist cognitive dissonance is from everything relating to transsexuals and gender equality. Same with science and gender/racial equality.

            [–]porkmaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            agreed. if they see a shrink beforehand and have been acting like the wrong gender for years, they should at least be put on a hormone blocker for a good while as a teen if not given hormones. otherwise they're going to look like shit.

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              [–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (2 children)

              Taking hormones to get jacked = go to jail

              [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 33 points34 points  (1 child)

              I'm a man in a man's body... I need to take hormones to fix this problem!

              [–]king_of_red_alphas 27 points28 points  (0 children)

              I think I may be an Alpha trapped in a Beta's body.

              [–]Jimmy_Big_Nuts 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              It's because it's easier - we don't yet have a drug that makes someone feel like they are a different gender - just like we don't have a drug that turns someone gay. Surgery and hormones we can do, so that's the current treatment for this form of mental illness. Give it a while and maybe trannies will become a thing of the past when they can just flip a switch in a persons head. I get what you mean though. Funny how the brain works.

              [–]dan_legend -1 points0 points  (1 child)

              Lol how did this turn into a trans bashing convo. I honestly dont care who turns transgender. I'll never have that problem. Fuck 'em if they're straight, fuck 'em if their trans.

              [–]NAmember81 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I wish a 50% increase in the gay population would occur so more women would be available for me. I really don't care what people do as long as they don't harm anybody.

              [–]bartallen4790 37 points38 points  (0 children)

              What we should all really be talking about is if Caitlin Jenner will now get $0.77 to every $1.00 she made as Bruce.

              [–]TerryYockey 9 points10 points  (0 children)

              I seriously hope that they don't qualify for SSI or disability or anything, since they made a willing, conscious choice to disable themselves.

              [–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

              is fully accepted by Americans

              You mean the elite shitting on the moral fabric of western societies while preserving their strong family unit? Yes these guys are all for transgender.

              [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

              I've worked and volunteered with people with disabilities for many years. This pisses me off.

              [–]sirjuicybooty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Im a machinist and i see it all the time. People missing fingers, eyes, all that. This people would give anything to have their bodies back to normal. I just don't understand it man.

              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Hilarious. That was an unexpected jab, kudos.

              [–]The Private ManZamarski 34 points35 points  (4 children)

              Game for smokers:

              https://theprivateman.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/game-for-smokers/

              [I hope I'm not violating a link rule here - I'm linking to my own blog]

              [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

              You're The Private Man from Twitter? Good to see you here.

              Do vapers count? lol

              [–]The Private ManZamarski 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              I've actually been here a long time. I did one of the early AMAs back when there were just a few folks here.

              Yes, vapers count!

              [–]god10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Game for smokers:

              don't be a smoker, you joker.

              [–]sbdragonfruit 68 points69 points  (22 children)

              Masterful. Well done. But smoking is gross, and girls that smoke are gross. But good for you.

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                [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 29 points30 points  (0 children)

                but she was smoking hot

                Then you did the right thing by putting her out.

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                  [–]1aguy01 33 points34 points  (4 children)

                  Yea I can't remember the study but women that smoke are overwhelmingly more likely to be hoes. If a girl can't say no to cigarettes she can't say no to good dick.

                  [–]1BadgerBurger 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                  Risk-taking behavior. If she sees no problem with one risk, why not another?

                  [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  She probably can't say no to bad dick either for that matter.

                  Just remember hoes who smoke age more quickly. I know the common parlance is that at 30 a woman hits the wall but truth is the wall can be anywhere from 25 to 40 depending on how well they take care of themselves. Smoking makes them hit the wall sooner and faster... Just like if they start doing meth or crack and other crazy drugs.

                  [–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Another life-altering quote. Thanks!

                  edit: Goddamnit. My ex didn't drink or smoke. I may have reeeeally fucked up.

                  [–]thefisherman1961 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                  But if you're also a smoker then you can't taste the smoke in her mouth either so it cancels out.

                  [–]1BadgerBurger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  It's funny: I know a young girl who smokes. When I see her out at bars, full makeup, she's hot as fuck. Guys all over her. She has some drinks and goes out for a smoke with no shortage of attention.

                  Then I saw her at volleyball. No makeup. Revealing clothes show the body is aging rapidly. Still cute and good personality. But at volleyball she's a 6. At the bars she's a 9.

                  [–]Jakenbake781 10 points11 points  (6 children)

                  Kinda off topic and hopefully not a stupid question, but how does one get into that line of work? Hanging power lines, not being a chef. Seems like something I might be interested in.

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                    [–]MuchAdoAboutNada 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                    I've heard that you get paid a fuck-ton for hanging lines from a helicopter. Would you say that is true?

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                      [–]BlackHeart89 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      Damn. They pay overtime for that shit? Thats crazy. I figured it was salary. Kudos!

                      [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                      I love how you handled this from start to finish. You drove away the betas, were outcome independent (were willing to let her walk away in the beginning), and you held frame, she gave in, and then you gave her a taste of Chad Thundercock.

                      [–]Triple_Overdrive 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                      We need more reports like this. I like how they all turned on her after she flashed you. Betas are the REAL assholes...

                      [–]Planner_Hammish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      I think he sealed the deal when he said "alright, that's enough" after they were berating her. So much information was conveyed in those three words:

                      That they were being rude;

                      That he has her attention now, and they can fuck off;

                      That he is confident and either a leader among men, or willing to fight for his authority;

                      That he is willing to stand up for her;

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                      [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (7 children)

                      It doesn't matter what his SMV is, he could be super low SMV, or middling SMV, what does matter is his actions increased his SMV in the eyes of that particular woman. THAT is all that matters. He held frame, implied abundance by giving her the opportunity to walk, then held frame again when she returned to him and offered to flash him and his friend her tits.

                      Then he escalated along with his friend by inviting her inside and then went on from there till he took her home.

                      Pretty much a perfect FR from a cold approach.

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                        [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (5 children)

                        You're not quite getting it, it isn't his initial SMV that made this work, it was his actions that made it work. I'm not saying his initial SMV didn't help, I'm just saying it's not the only reason for his success here.

                        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

                        Pretty sure what the dude is implying is if he had low smv, the girl would be insulted and call him a "creep".

                        Low SMV dudes who go up to hot chicks asking to see tits? I think that is what the dude you're talking with is implying.

                        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                        Well remember, she approached him, not the other way around.

                        [–]1aguy01 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        You're not quite getting it, it isn't his initial SMV that made this work, it was his actions that made it work.

                        Kind of but not really. She took one look at him and thought about fucking him. His actions verified that he is fuckable, but his looks hooked her. Game is overrated. When your SMV is high all you have to do is have the balls to make a move.

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                          [–]The_BeardedGentleman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                          But I am not ridiculously good looking or anything.

                          Wrong. All of the things before that last line make you good looking. Unless you've got a cleft lip, missing an eyeball or something, the things above that line put you miles ahead of other guys.

                          [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                          Those guys are all complaining that girls only go for assholes right now.

                          [–]Zchavago 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          And that's how i met your mom.

                          [–]Transmigratory 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Reading the part with the white knights made me face palm... well they can be forever blue or eventually learn.

                          [–]this_guy2001 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          Best story I have heard/read in a while.

                          [–]apackofwankers 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          Last year, I was in Moscow, and they have a lovely expression here "stop fucking my brain". Its something mostly women say.

                          One woman explained to me that when a woman says "stop fucking my brain", she really means "stop fucking my brain and start fucking my pussy".

                          So, fucking with chicks mind's, toying with them, manipulating them for fun and entertainment, is a kind of foreplay. Whenever I can, I fuck with chick's minds now. If I can identify what they want, I dangle it in front of them, like fucking with a cat using a laser pointer.

                          When the white knights came to her rescue, she was fucking with both them and you by offering to show her tits. You handled the situation brilliantly by completely dominating them and telling them to leave. Note to all TRPers: as well as lifting, do martial arts. It doesn't matter how big or strong you are - a trained fighter will take you to pieces.

                          [–]1favours_of_the_moon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          I respond "only if you show me your tits." She kinda laughs but I think she was more shocked. She says please and I keep saying only if you show me your tits. By this time her white nights come over to save her. One guy starts calling me faggot, one guy offers me $10 for a smoke for her, one guy offers to go buy her some from a gas station and the other tries to convince his friends to fight us... Unbelievable. Me and my friend start laughing and walk away. She then says "wait, how long do I have to show them to you?"

                          This is what even TRP dudes do NOT understand about a bitch. At this point, she's ONLY doing it to extreme personal mindrape the white knights. She doesn't care about the cigarette anymore.

                          That's how a "modern girl" gets tingles.

                          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (4 children)

                          She showed her tits even though she had an orbiter offering $10? What incentive did she have if the beta was gonna do that anyways?

                          [–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (3 children)

                          Apparently she wanted a masculine dude to fuck more than she wanted a beta loser to buy her a cigarette.

                          [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                          I used to work as a bouncer and have seen a lot of this behavior.

                          [–]SlickBlackCadillac 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Please make a post about it!

                          [–]Trisha_Hill 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                          What does linerepair with a helicopter has to do with this? Fishy intro fishy story

                          [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                          He explained why he was working for his friend in a kitchen.

                          [–]whatyearisthisagain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Moral of the story:

                          When she wants dick she always sends me a text -- "can I have a cigarette?"

                          .

                          I was just trying to fuck with her for my own sick amusement and it worked out better than i imagined.

                          As her text implies, she never wanted a cigarette in the first place. She was asking for cock all along.

                          One guy starts calling me faggot, one guy offers me $10 for a smoke for her, one guy offers to go buy her some from a gas station

                          Which these guys will never be able to understand.

                          [–]idle_reception 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          How do I get your job? Lmao that sounds bad ass.

                          On another note, women love not getting what they expect keeps them on their toes and gives them a thrill on that emotional roller coaster

                          [–]bonerfleximus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Being a non-smoker sucks sometimes...just the taste of cigarette in a kiss makes me go soft.

                          [–]machimus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Interesting that the cigarette was the only honest social transaction that night. Two of her orbiters got aggressive which was directly keeping her from what she wanted. The other two offered to buy her smokes, but then she would have "owed them" 10 bucks worth of affection. Asking to see her tits had no strings attached, and ended up being the cheapest price. Huh.

                          [–]chrisindub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          This is always the problem with drunk orbiters, they would often rather implode in a tragic way that ruins everyone's night than acknowledge that they were outplayed and allow the superior skills to leave with the target.

                          [–]moose_war 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I'm wondering if she played along because she already found you attractive and was willing to show you her tits for free or if she started finding you more attractive because you were so bold and forward with her.

                          I know the answer will probably be "a mixture of both" but I'd really like to know which was a bigger factor...I'm thinking she already found you attractive to begin with and this was almost like a reverse shit test on her. She asked for something harmlessly and you deflected a shit test to her that, contrasted with her thirsty white knights, kind of fast tracked her attraction to you.

                          [–]wtg2989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Why do so many people make these posts just to pat themselves on the back? The part where all 4 guys turn on her and call her a slut seems pretty unlikely so I think you may just be making this up.

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          prob one of the best posts on TRP i've ever seen..

                          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          That is an unbelievable story, friend.

                          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                          How to know if this story is real or not?

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                          [–]Doctor_Mayhem 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                          I should probably post some of my field reports. The vast majority end in either hilarious failure, or me acting like a massive asshole. Such as when a girl told me she wasn't sure what she wanted and was just looking for friends and to date around until she figures herself out, I said, "Oh, that's fine, we can be friends. We'll hang out again." I then got up to walk out and she was like, "Hey, what about the tab?" I said, "My friends buy me drinks." Never heard from her again, but I still think I came out on top. Ducked the corner and left her with the tab. Haaaaa!

                          [–]Entershikari 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                          Man I believe you. But But I'd love a picture of the message !

                          [–]Terd_Ferguson69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          "We are outside for about 5 minutes when she comes up to us and asks for a cigarette."

                          If she smokes, she pokes. The smell of cig smoke would make me go limp in a hurry. But if she is that hot, I'd prob go with it. I'm gonna start carrying a pack of cigs even tho I don't smoke em. Haha

                          [–]Masonjarteadrinker2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          This so simple but awesome, good shit man.

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          That's a good FR. Some people will complain later that it's fiction, but not caring and saying what you want regardless of yes or no is shocking to everyone around you.

                          [–]pilledwillingly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Dude, you're a fucking transmission liney, sometimes a set of tits is just not the most exciting part of your day, and motherfuckers gotta deal with that.

                          [–]anti_erection_man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          There are so many white knights out there, that any men not being a pusslicker is automatically an asshole, just for not going overboard with the "niceness". Why the fuck would you give a cig to a total stranger? Just because she's got a pussy?

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          A couple years ago I went back to my frat for a party with some of the younger guys who joined when I was a junior/senior. Passed out on a common room couch, and around 6 in the morning hear a girl and guy come in asking to use the couch for fucking. I told her I would get up (I had to leave anyway to go sleep in my own bed) but she had to show me her tits first. She did it right in front of the guy, for about 10 seconds. Ridiculous. These girls today have zero morals.

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                          Love the update. You held frame and didn't reply to her right away, so she knows you're busy, not thirsty, and you're creating even more value.

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