Red Pill Example"Man dates" (self.TheRedPill)

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This is a short story I'd like to share with you gentlemen. A story about having adventures with your fellow man and unintentionally pissing off women in the work place.

So I work in an office environment, where the majority of my male coworkers are extremely beta and the women are fat and sassy. I'm really the only person in my office that does any kid of extreme sports or outdoor activities and I generally never hangout with any of my coworkers. They all like to hit the bars after work and I've never joined them. Some of the girls (5/10 at best) try flirting with me to come drink after work and I always shoot everyone down. I'm definitely the black "anti social" sheep of the office but I'm always doing fun, physical activities and posting pictures on Facebook (Stuff like riding Dirt bikes, rock climbing, Fishing etc) and I always have coworkers commenting about the pictures on Facebook.

Well one of my coworkers, we'll call him John...brought up fishing to me. Well I was basically raised on a boat with a rod in my hand so I told him I'd take him and teach him all I know (He'd never been) We've been going fishing regularly, posted a few pictures to facebook, mentioned to a few coworkers about our fishing trips, just having a good time. Some people started to talk, and by some people I mean the women, at first they seemed kind of impressed/interested of our man dates.

Well, another coworker, let's call him Eric, had told me that he has a tandem kayak that he bought for him and his GF to use, but they don't really go much and she's useless with a paddle (imagine that) and he asked if I wanted to go sometime, I said hell yeah. Well we ended up going kayaking down the river and we had a blast, didn't fish at all but just paddled around and shot the shit, grabbed some lunch and literally just had a "bro date" talked about women and life and work and the corporate bullshit. John and I had the same conversation while fishing.

Well, the woman in my work place with NOT STOP shit testing me. Every 30 minutes I hear about how I'm going on "man dates" and they exaggerate the activities, like "So SpinPlates, I hear you, John and Eric are scaling Everest next week? How do yall have the time for all these adventures!?" And "Do you guys rub each other down with sunscreen before you go out?" Just normal dumb shit test.

It's starting to get really funny and I'm going to keep ignoring their requests for me to come drink with them and I'm going to keep doing my man shit, I know it drives the women absolutely crazy that the men in the office are out doing man shit and having a blast without a vagina in a 2 miles radius.

Remember how much your time is worth guys. Remember that is your most valuable asset and when girls do not get it they get crazy.


Jesus, some of you guys completely missed the point about this. I am NOT calling them man dates nor am I advising you to go on them. The fucking quotations in the title should have implied I was quoting someone else, in this case female coworkers who coined this term. Some of you were coaching me about how to handle these shit tests, I promise I do not need coaching, I was RP years before I even knew about this sub and RP in General, I discovered it on my own through trial and error with women. The reason I posted this just a reminder that women are BORING as fuck and they feel threatened when left out of the loop.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 342 points343 points  (62 children)

1) They're insuating that you're gay in an attempt to get you to prove otherwise by acting on their suggestion to have a drink with them.

2) Women also hate being excluded from groups where the action is. "They hate the idea that there exists a space in the universe where the culture is not centered around themselves, pandering to their needs, and worshiping the dirt they stand on, this sacred ground. Women need men and need the feeling to be mutual, but the presence of our male exclusive spaces are evidence to the contrary. It shows that a man, even one women categorize as a provider, can have an enjoyable existence outside the presence of a woman. If a man cannot be controlled by sex, women are powerless." - The Covert Reason Women Hate Male Spaces

[–]RedPill_Rorschach 91 points92 points  (38 children)

Point 2 is extremely accurate. The subject of marriage and children came up at work and instead of being smarter and simply lying I just said it's not for me and I'd rather focus on work and having fun in life. You can imagine how well that went.

[–]foldpak111 31 points32 points  (4 children)

Get back in your box Rorschach! Don't get any ideas we're gonna need you for a good divorce after 30!

Trolling women that put me in the provider category is my favorite past time. I already found love, it's called fitness and career. Nothing or nobody can replace that. If I were Sid Vicious all the women would be like 'well idk he's like a rockstar so whatever'

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 23 points24 points  (19 children)


I mean I recently had a conversation at work with one of my co-workers. It was pretty red pill without using any TRP terminology and lots of humor (Maybe I should have been a comedian). Basically it ends up like this...

"Why don't you get married?" to which I reply instinctively with thet MGTOW-inspired response "Because I don't need any more crazy in my life"

[–]RedPill_Rorschach 37 points38 points  (14 children)

My answer to "why don't you get married" usually is "My life is awesome".

[–]Balls_so_hard 23 points24 points  (11 children)

My go to is 'I've never been happier, why change what's working perfectly for my situation?' it's always met with yammering and stammering and 'when you get older it'll change'.... I'm 33, I don't plan on becoming a bitch when I'm 40 so I can't see things changing.

[–]foldpak111 23 points24 points  (8 children)

People say that because they unconsciously realize that when you get older, your testosterone levels start dipping and you turn into a fat little bald needy fuck. But people actually believe that's normal. How many guys at 40 do you know who eat a balanced diet, rigorous exercise routine, meditation, proper sleep? That's what I thought.

[–]Balls_so_hard 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Just because it doesn't get easier when you get older, doesn't mean you have to succumb to the challenge. I work harder at my health now than I did when I was younger but planning my meals and down time frees up so much time in the rest of my life that right now I am finding it easier to get better and feel better than it did 5 years ago.

[–]tuxedoburrito 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I don't see the point you were trying to make.

Are you saying men aren't like that at 40? Even trp men?

[–]vintagegirlgame 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Testosterone is use it or lose it. If you aren't using it by 30 it's a downward spiral, but if you keep active your T levels will stay active as long as you do. I know many men (mostly surfers) in their 40s and 50s who are as fit as they were at 30. They only have to watch out for things like knee joints which take a beating over the years. But even my mid 50s uncle fully recovered from an torn ACL (trekking/skiing in Iceland) and is back to mountain biking, surfing and all his normal sports.

[–]mryddlin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's closer to 70's now when the downturn happens in men.

As some point we all lose in the end and my goal is to setup myself up to be as healthy and good looking for as long as possible.

Silver Fox FTW!

edit: 70's if you take care of yourself.

[–]Grompher 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Family females that have unhappy husbands ask me. They stopped when I told them "so that I end up like your husband? No thanks"!

[–]Balls_so_hard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More and more frequently I'm starting to hear comments about my hair not thinning and keeping in shape. I'm starting to attribute those to not being married or as I like to call it 'I haven't given up'

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd give them a link to this video


[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (3 children)

"Why don't you get married?"

Why enter into a legal contract which puts my standard of living at risk? What exactly would marriage offer me? What can you bring to the table to enhance my life that I can't get from dating you? I do my laundry, I cook my veggies and lean meats, I keep the house, my cars and my toys meticulously clean.

I do what I want, when I want and how I want to do it. This is how I live. Take it or leave it.

I'm an independent man and don't need no woman!

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Who said I was going to do your laundry and cook? I'm a modern woman.

[–]1independentmale 5 points6 points  (1 child)

They don't cook, they don't clean, they hardly fuck.... What the fuck are they good for, then? Companionship? My fucking dog is a better companion. If a woman can't bring more to the table than her, I have no interest.

[–]_eskimo_brothers_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have to out-do my main bitch, and my main bitch only speaks when I say, "Speak".

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I have a pretty good idea how that went down.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know what you mean about going against what you know is the smarter option. Sometimes it's just too fun or interesting from an social experiement point of view to see how people react to various ideas and actions. I'd rather been known as a fascist than live like Winston in 1984.

[–]chinawinsworlds 5 points6 points  (7 children)

May I hear the specifics? Being one of the younger guys here, I am curious to hear the reactions to these kinds of stuff. After all, teenage girls are very different from "women". I need to be prepared for these vile creatures.

[–]ComradConnor 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I think that in this case "vile creatures" is an overreaction.

AWALT. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–]chinawinsworlds 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As it was supposed to be. Don't take that 100% serious, it's just a way of speech to be fair.

[–]1aguy01 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Most younger girls understand, it's the career women approaching the wall that flip out about it.

[–]Grompher 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I think these young girls listen to the older dried up cunts on how to manipulate.

"Men are stupid" is something I've heard to many women say while the rest of them laugh.

What they don't understand is that a man will let things slide because they don't realize they are being emasculated.

But the boiling point eventually is reached and MGTOW or TRP. Or


[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I always call them out when I hear "Men are stupid".

I tend to go along the lines of:

"The wine in your hand, the iPhone in the other one the designer shoes on your feet, the car that you drive, the house you live in and the security of this neighbourhood is all from men.

Can you point to anything here that was invented, designed or built by a woman?"

I'll break up the intensity by saying something like " It's a good thing you have tits eh?" With a stupid grin.

[–]RedPill_Rorschach 8 points9 points  (0 children)

ComradConnor got it right. Also, basically it boils down to envy on their part. Understand most people go through life because that's what living organism do. If you have a strong conviction , people will look at you and see into themselves. Some will like what they see and feel inspired, others threatened, shamed and so on. If you demonstrate agency over your life, that's threatening to those who avoid agency.

You can control your own reaction to others, not their reactions to you.

[–]ThrowyMcGruder 75 points76 points  (7 children)

They hate the idea that there exists a space in the universe where the culture is not centered around themselves, pandering to their needs, and worshiping the dirt they stand on, this sacred ground.

I did a bit of work for a local non-profit that runs all kinds of events, from summer camps for kids to AA meetings for adults. It's basically a base where clubs and groups can hold their events/meetings.

There are several things that are aimed at only women. Some are specific, like a womens' club, and others are randomly female-only, like a craft group that excludes men.

These have gone on for years and nobody gives a shit.

But when the guy who runs the place, Kevin, started a "Men's Shed", things got interesting.

I made the poster saying that it was starting in two weeks time and put it in the window.

Within the following two weeks I counted twenty seven women who came in to talk about it and I wasn't even there much.

If Kevin was there, a woman or three would come in and recommend "Sally who can teach them pottery" or "Mary who can show them how to sew" or "Diane who can teach them cooking and cleaning".

Kevin, to his credit, always grinned and said "Boys only!" or "No girls allowed!" in a joking manner and handled them well. He never got into the conversation and just stuck to his guns. No women and that's final.

They kept coming back with new suggestions that were always women and their final gambit was to take the women's group, who met twice a week, and have a third night in which the men could join in, and they acted as if this was a huge favour that they'd be doing for the men.

Again, to his credit, Kevin told them that he thought that this was a great idea. The Men's Shed would have their night and then they could have a joint night with the women on another evening if they wanted.

The women came in force for that one, about ten of them, and it was hilarious to watch them as they tried to work it so that the men couldn't have their own club without actually saying it that way.

And Kevin gave them everything they wanted apart from that.

He basically said, without saying, that they could have a "We Hate Men" club that plans to skydive into Poland for invasion that can include or exclude men or whatever the fuck they wanted, but the Men's Shed will be the Men's Shed.

It was hilarious to watch. They fucking hated it but couldn't say so without coming out as bigots.

So it went ahead and they reverted to mocking the guys involved for being gay buddies and the like but it's been going strong for almost a year and, with Kevin at the forefront, the guys just let it wash over them as they do carpentry and go out kayaking and shit.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (1 child)

This is amazing. Where does this place exist?

[–]199639 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I like how you say they mocked it "without sounding like bigots", but can you imagine if men mocked the women's only spaces by calling the women dykes? HR would fucking fire you all. Shows how far gynocentric our culture has become.

[–]Chaohinon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Seriously, what happened to social justice? Mocking people for allegedly being gay is an implicit accusation that being gay is wrong. If The Cathedral were run by an A.I. it would implode trying to parse out this issue.

[–]tuxedoburrito 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Dude I feel that. I used to be a missionary and in the group I was in there were 40 women and 14 dudes.

So whenever the guys would break off to have guy time, like once or twice a week. The girls would literally pull us aside and say, "I just feel like we're being excluded when you do that."

Yeah. That's EXACTLY what's happening. There's 40 of you, fuck, let us get some hangout time alone for once.

Often times a group of like two or three would go to the same restaurant and be in the same building as us anyways. Ugh

[–]foldpak111 29 points30 points  (2 children)

You can also turn it around on them and blast them for being homophobic. In a society of political correctness, hating gays is like hating women, or black people. Good luck keeping your job after that, fatty.

This is also why I love owning my own business and not working for the man. I can say whatever I want to women and the most they can do is call me gay. Want to try false rape? I have a hidden camera on me at all times and several security cams installed in my pad. Good luck, once again lol. My employee's can't fire me.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yup. Just use the words "hostile work environment" and they will shut the fuck up mighty quick.

[–]Grompher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They can get away with it. I had a manager tell me that "men should have their penises cut off for all that they have done to women".


[–]ECoast_Man 20 points21 points  (0 children)

2) Women also hate being excluded from groups where the action is. "They hate the idea that there exists a space in the universe where the culture is not centered around themselves, pandering to their needs, and worshiping the dirt they stand on, this sacred ground. Women need men and need the feeling to be mutual, but the presence of our male exclusive spaces are evidence to the contrary. It shows that a man, even one women categorize as a provider, can have an enjoyable existence outside the presence of a woman. If a man cannot be controlled by sex, women are powerless." - The Covert Reason Women Hate Male Spaces

Very fucking true. How many of us have been in the relationship where the lady keeps reiterating how your guy friends are 'bad influences', or been the bad influence? From my experience that's code for - 1) single guy friend activities are dreading her; 2) they hate men having independence.

[–]laere 16 points17 points  (2 children)

This is why i don't befriend women, yeah sure you can have benefits of social proof and shit, but fuck that.

I hate the nagging, and they always try to invite themselves to your "man dates" when you blatantly tell them to fuck off.

[–]rpscrote 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is why I consider it a huge green flag for LTR when a girl will say "Oh I dont want to intrude on your plans with your friends"

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Also this:


Women hate male spaces, and if you let them they'll infiltrate and cooped them to the best of their ability. Happens ALL the time. You could say feminism is a shit test writ large on society because that is what it did by making things women acceptable be driving men out of various jobs, hobbies, etc.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great piece.

Women hate male spaces, and if you let them

Key word, let.

Men aren't herd creatures like women are. I'm beginning to think that this part of our nature is working against us in the artificial environment we now find ourselves in today. It's going to have to get really bad before men as a gender decide to not put up without this shit anymore.

[–]SloppyHayabusa 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Why do the archive.is hyperlinks that are given on this subreddit always result in an network error has anyone else had this problem?

[–]1mojo_juju 1 point2 points  (1 child)

never had such a problem... might want to ask reddit tech support?

[–]SloppyHayabusa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly i think its because of my deployment base internet. Ill dig around though thanks

[–]TheJessee 75 points75 points [recovered]

It never ceases to surprise me the envy people have for others just for trying to live a good life, can't people just be fucking happy that someone is doing OK and making the best of it?

[–]dennislang 53 points54 points  (0 children)

"fat and sassy" is pretty much equivalent to "stuck in a crab bucket". Once you internalize this, you'll struggle to take anything these women say seriously and pass their tests with flying colours.

[–]foldpak111 17 points18 points  (4 children)

I am currently living with my father and his girlfriend. It's like living with two feminists. She regularly refers to rich people as evil (cringe since 9/10 wealthy people I know worked their fuckin ass off for it). Spend all their free time watching TV shows and talking about the characters as if they know them personally. They are livid at me because I talk about ideas, which was a big mistake because you don't talk to a low level person (one that talks about people) like they're high level people. They told me that I need to get a 9-5 and quit dreaming. The girlfriend even told me biology isn't real anymore because we live in modern society. This is a very toxic environment and a serious violation of personal boundaries.

"Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The trouble-makers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently…they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the ones who are crazy enough to believe they can change the world, are the ones who actually do." -Jobs

[–]pizza_tron 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Move out on your own man. Not worth being around toxic people like this.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Looking back on things, removing toxic people out of my life has been one of the best decisions I have ever made. It's also an ongoing process.

All the bullshit and everything idiotic that comes with these people simply ceases to be when you remove them from your life. Things become clear, which allows your mind to move on to better things.

Against my better judgement, I kept a few toxic people around for longer than I should have and it did not lead to anything good. You can always leave things open ended, for them to come to you when they fix their life.

[–]inteusx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then he might have to get a job! Oh no!!

[–]longerdistance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you're feeling particularly magnanimous you can pass their shit-tests without making them feel inferior. You'll dismantle their idea that such happiness is impossible without getting them defensive, it might very well make them better people in the long run.

[–]NoMoBluepill 435 points436 points  (75 children)

Anyone else remember when a guy could hang out with his friends and not use a stupid label like "man date" for it?

[–]too_long_didnt_read 236 points236 points [recovered]

The pussyfication of society continues apace.

[–]HappyScribe 137 points138 points  (51 children)

Don't get me started on 'man-cave' for workshop/home office, 'man flu' for a cold, 'man bag' for a satchel.

It's a gentle form of mockery, not an attack, but it pisses me off.

[–]ECoast_Man 61 points62 points  (7 children)

This is a good point I've never really thought of.

'Bromance' 'Mancrush' 'Man/Bro Date' whatever.

These terms seem to be employed moreso to mock male bonding, rather than celebrate it.

[–]PirateBatman 43 points44 points  (0 children)

They want you to feel guilty subconsciously about time not spent with them.

[–]Wrong_Opinion 16 points17 points  (1 child)

My friends and I have resorted to Agree and Amplify in the face of these terms. We own them now. We even use female terms in front of them. "Joe and I are besties!", "We have a bromance triangle." "We're going to our man caves to do obeisance to Our Lord GabeN."

It's great fun.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I believe this is the first time in a whole year I've browsed TRP that I see our glorious Lord GabeN being posted.

He did try to pull some shit, but damn is he awesome. A true redpill humble fat guy who fucks bitches with his hl3 exlucisve crowbar left and right

[–]TheTane 3 points3 points [recovered]

I personally like those terms for what they are. I've always laughed at the "bro-[blank]" when done phonetically (bromance, broner, etc.), but more importantly I've always had bromances in my life and am perfectly comfortable with referring to them as such. While I do know most people using those terms are doing so half-mockingly, I find a sense of endearment in the term and honestly I like that there's a term that accurately describes male bonding, at least how I've always experienced it.

I went to a therapeutic boarding school for almost a year and a half, while I was there I made the best friends of my entire life. I'm so close with the majority of those dudes to this day, just visited some last weekend in fact. But emotional closeness between men is something I've become very familiar with and is one of the main things for me that reminds me what being a man is about.

TL;dr: broner is a funny word and I have no issues with calling my closeness with other men a "bromance".

[–]ECoast_Man 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Oh fuck yeah. That's why it's been masked from me as I've used them in jest as well, but a lot of people insult bro-dom.

Having a bro-down is one I use. Ha.

[–]Johnny10toes 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Man cave? You mean my house?

[–]Mattpilf 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Most of these are modifications so others font think they are gay.

Man Bag: well of its a purse he's gay.

Man date: if it is a date he's gay.

Man-cave: if he cares about interior design he's gay.

Man hug: if it was a normal hug he'd be gay.

Man crush: regular crush would mean he's gay

Bromance : apparently normal platonic friendships are gay.

Man skirt, man leggings, etc....

So much is from men in our society possibly being misinterpreted as gay they have to put these stupid descriptors on everything.

[–]iamirishpat 3 points4 points  (35 children)

What's wrong with having a man cave? I understand your other points, but for betas in LTRs, I think it's important for them to have a part of the house where the gf/wife/whatever has no control.

[–]jiveraffe 96 points96 points [recovered]

What's wrong with having a man cave?

The implication that a man has no control over the rest of his own house. Relegated to the basement like some sort of manchild.

For example: [woman bans toys from house] (http://www.awesomeinventions.com/guy-hides-toys-from-girlfriend/). Unless she owns the goddamn house it's pussified bullshit.

[–]Kaidenside 69 points70 points  (1 child)

I have a man cave, it's called my house.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 40 points41 points  (5 children)

Yep. You hit the nail right on the head. In the old days, a man's home was his castle. These days it's common practice for the woman to have control over the entire house, and if the guy is lucky he might get to have a "man cave" in the garage or the basement where he gets to keep his own stuff.

In the movie Juno, the saddest scene was when Jason Bateman's character realized that, despite the fact that he owned a huge house, the only place where he was allowed to keep the things he loved was in a closet.

[–]foldpak111 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Absolutely pathetic. Any woman tries taking over MY domain, she will be immediately escorted off the premises.

[–]199639 21 points22 points  (2 children)

If you're married she will have you escorted off and you'll pay for the privilege. Marriage 2.0 is fully incompatible with a stable relationship.

[–]thefisherman1961 19 points20 points  (10 children)

I frequent a well-known audiophile forum and some of those guys are such betas that it makes me sick. A lot of women don't want to see big speakers in their living room, so they are required by their wives to relegate their stereos to an inferior room in the house, which the men voluntarily refer to as the "man cave".

Their wives will control how much money they spend on music/equipment, and will even become jealous of the equipment to the point where they will start dismantling it, hamstering that they're doing it in order to "put Christmas decorations up" or such other nonsense. Some of them even let their wives force them to sleep on the couch and even kick them out of their own homes over it. Many have been divorce raped.

I could never allow myself to be forced into a man-cave. She can have a woman-cave. My stereo is going in the living room, front and center.

Audiophilia is too niche of a hobby for it to be a club, but if it was, the hobby is 99.9% men so it would certainly be a male space.

[–]199639 10 points11 points  (8 children)

I often wonder about this fact. Audio is something all genders enjoy, yet only men dive deep into the audiophile world. Only men care to learn about the details, mechanics, and physics that make it all work. Only men care enough to pursue the study, design, and appreciation of high quality sound.

You see the same thing in almost every genre of hobby interest...

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Is there anything women are the best at? Getting raped? I think men got that covered too

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Consoling crying kids.

That's all I got.

[–]Reavver89 4 points5 points  (1 child)


Which parent is able to calm down the child that scraped his knee best?

A.The mother that runs over with worry written all over her face, who cuddles her son and coos "oh my poor baby has a boo boo"

B. The father who calmly walks over to his kid, sets him upright, brushes the dirt out of his scrape and says "It's just a scrape"

Seriously, which kid do you think will stop crying faster?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know man, if my life depended on it I would become world champion in a day hahah

[–]rpscrote 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I frequent a well-known audiophile forum and some of those guys are such betas that it makes me sick. A lot of women don't want to see big speakers in their living room, so they are required by their wives to relegate their stereos to an inferior room in the house, which the men voluntarily refer to as the "man cave".

I see this shit all the time, I just couldn't understand it.

"I dont want to see big speakers blah blah blah" --> Too goddamn bad. Bigger speakers sound better. I dont give a flying fuck if you dont like it

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[–]Grompher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got a buddy who's wife is the big moneymaker. "This is your house, but I'm the king"

[–]Hank711 16 points17 points  (2 children)

There's also the insinuation, especially if the relevant man is married, that the rest of the house is not the man's space. Other than being present in some of the pictures, there is little evidence that the man even lives in some homes. Joyfully calling the basement or den a "man cave" implies that it is acceptable to relegate the man to one room.

[–]Gadnuk_ 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Thank you for this whole picture perspective

As a member of the younger generation (23y/o) I was raised to believe man cave was a good thing, that a man was able to have a small space exclusively for male activity. It must be a keeper if she lets you have a man cave! My conditioning was such that I never even realized that the ENTIRE HOUSE should be this.

What the man cave says about spatial power assertion is tantamount to castration.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It must be a keeper if she lets you have a man cave! My conditioning was such that I never even realized that the ENTIRE HOUSE should be this.

You should be thankful that a woman allowed you to use one room of your house.

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Why the fuck should a woman control (furnish, decorate, determine purpose of space) 90% of the home? Why should the man of the household be relegated to the shittiest post of the home (basement, garage, etc) for his purpose?

Fuck the entire idea of a man cave. Have a gun vault, a music studio, a home gym, a ventilated cigar smoking room, a bar, a games room, or a workshop for any creative hobby.

A bachelor should control 100% of his space obviously, but a man who works to provide a home to a woman and kids should control more than a tenth of the space. Probably more like 75% in my opinion.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Well the basement may be shitty but the garage is usually a great place for men to become gearheads and build, fix and repair shit in addition to you know having a TV and some seating to watch some sports and whatever they want.

In reality the man should control 100% of the space but be willing to compromise or permit the woman and/or kids to personalize their own parts of the space within reason. His woman can decorate 90% of the house if he wants to let her do it but if he wants to put a leg lamp in the front window then she can't really do a damn thing about it.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like that reference to a christmas story at the end. I need to watch that movie again

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's be honest, here. Men provide everything so I have the right to claim everything. Don't like it? Leave.

[–]Bascome 9 points10 points  (0 children)

My gf has control of one corner of my bedroom one dresser and one half of one closest. I don't have a man cave, I have a man house.

[–]nimahu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its more about the term, most people could also call that a den.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL, no beta in the world has a room of his own.

[–]Grompher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She can be master of the kitchen.

[–]cuntbh 74 points75 points  (2 children)

Sounds like we need a mandate against the term man date.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Reminds me of the Ban Bossy campaign. I only found out about it just yesterday, and was appalled that the femigentsia was trying to legislate the banning of the word to empower females.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People called you bitches bossy because you're shit leaders who are nitpicky and not constructive but are giving orders for the sake of it.

[–]laere 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yeah it was called hanging out or chilling. Fucking those days were awesome.

[–]RedPillProphet 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ironically its usually used as an insult by the most pathetic blue pill guy too insecure to do anything but play video games unless there is at least one 3/10 around (bcz any girl more attractive is repulsed away by his presence).

[–]lightfire409 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Well a "man date" would be more like you and your bro grabbing dinner together someplace. Or seeing a movie. A term used to describe two dude hanging out doing something often done on a normal date.

I see no problem with its usage in that sense. I wouldn't qualify fishing, rafting, rock climbing, hunting, etc as man dates. See the difference?

[–]this_guy2001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not allowed to eat dinner with a bro?

[–]peoplearejustpeople9 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Try to hang out with just bros but then people call it a sausage fest, especially the betas in the group.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 92 points93 points  (33 children)

You already know this but women do what women are used to doing.

Your man friends are willing to go outside their comfort zone and try new things because they're sick of the M-F 9-5 grind of an office setting.

If any of the women showed any interest in going fishing or dirt biking or whatever I'm sure you'd be willing to take them but instead they continue to do the unimaginative 'Hey come get hammered with us' routine.

Isn't Insanity defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? If that's the case those women are crazy.

[–]BoomFapXCX 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I can't believe people don't recognize that quote and recognize it's veracity:
do you even Einstein bros?!

[–]pirateundies 77 points78 points  (7 children)

Chances are their "social lives" up to this point have involved standing around doing nothing while guys come up to them to win their approval, and talking about other people to people. Their looks have just started fading and they haven't realized yet that

  1. They aren't interesting
  2. They don't do anything interesting, and
  3. They aren't even that enjoyable to be around.

In high school and college they could cry "patriarchy!" as the reason guys were doing these things and they weren't, but now that they're in adult life and men are simply choosing to be around each other rather than them, it's easier for them to try to make fun of you rather than face those facts.

[–]laere 33 points34 points  (5 children)

daily reminder 99% of women sit around in sweats watching netflix and eating junk food.

[–]thefisherman1961 25 points26 points  (1 child)

On OKCupid if a girl has the word "Netflix" anywhere in her profile, I NEXT.

[–]Dayman_ah-ah-ah 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Dude, women ALWAYS eat junk food. Theb complain about looking fat... I've lived on a college campus for 4 years now, women are the worst at controlling what they eat. Always have to have chocolate or some type of crap

[–]Squeezymypenisy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And then they come home and wonder why they gained 30 pounds.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 159 points160 points  (17 children)

Without male direction this is what women default to after university. They work an office job, eat shit food and drink alcohol. Chub by late twenties. Overweight early thirties.

They stagnant and do only what feels good. They dont try to improve themselves in any meaningful way and begin a downward slide.

Their is no intellectual stimulation. There is no physical stimulation apart from farting in yoga class. Their is no emotional stimulation, risk taking or adventure.

The reason why they shit test is because they are in a self imposed grey box. They are clawing on the walls trying to get out so they can feel something.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 33 points34 points  (12 children)

They are clawing on the walls trying to get out

In this case, the crabs are trying to pull OP in so he can entertain them on their turf to satisfy their opposing needs for security and thrills.

[–]jx234 5 points6 points  (10 children)

Out of interest, what kind of things should a mentally healthy women be doing? Also think is worth pointing out that most men who work office jobs are like this.

Edit: was meant for GLO but anyone can answer

[–]redpillspeeddate 34 points35 points  (0 children)

The main thing a girl needs is a passion to drive for or be willing to be directed to one. My GF loves the beach but never really did much in the actual water. Since we started dating I have taught her to body surf, surf, snorkel and she is getting her dive certification next weekend.

I love taking her to the beach with the excuse I do my best to keep her in or out of her bikini at all times :) it's great about teaching her something is that it sets proper frame, and usually gets her wanting to rip my clothes off after we get out of the water. Leadership = tingles.

I have found its better to treat girls as a blank canvas and bring them into your awesome world than trying to join theirs. Most girls lives are boring and they are just dying for an exciting man to come by and show them something new.

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 9 points10 points  (8 children)

They need one or more hobbies. Doesn't matter what really, but gossiping, drinking booze or watching Netflix aren't hobbies. Musical instrument, sport, an academic pursuit, anything.really. and not to put words in his mouth, but I expect GLO would include lifting in there.

Though it ended for plenty of reasons, I had a relationship with one particularly healthy minded woman. She mountain bikes (pretty good at it), cross country skis, played dungeons & dragons (pen/paper, not video games), did road trips often to visit outlying towns and parks in the area on weekends.

[–]1mojo_juju 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Well said.

Some fucking hobbies for Christ's sake.

Some Volunteer work...

Funny enough, I asked a woman not long ago what she is "passionate" about in an attempt to steer the conversation towards something remotely interesting. She shoved me playfully, with a smirk, and said, "I don't know!"

Granted, she was a climbing instructor in Alaska, so she could have said rock climbing, hiking, trail running, kayaking, outdoors, etc. But nope. She didn't even try to connect with any of her apparent pursuits.

I have sisters. I've never seen them do anything remotely "hobby" related or volunteer... unless you include following celebrities in magazines & TV as a hobby...

They have three focuses:

  1. Make money

  2. Relax aimlessly & mindlessly (usually in front of reality tv)

  3. Shop for designer clothes in an attempt to make other women envious.

[–]laere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah my sister did nothing but party and burn bridges with every friend she ever had, now she decided that her boring life needs a baby so she got herself a beta to use. I've always tried helping her out by setting a good example, but not everyone can be saved.

[–]jx234 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Apart from road trips, these are mostly masculine hobbies.

[–]1aguy01 6 points7 points  (0 children)

/RedpillWomen has a lot of discussion on this.

[–]NiceGuyNumber4 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You're right, but those are just examples. Other things that are more feminine or gender neutral could be: cooking, sewing/designing clothes, drawing, painting (really anything involving the arts), dancing, gardening, etc. The point is she does things that are constructive in some way. Either she is directly making something or honing some skill.

[–]2mbillion 1 point2 points  (1 child)

cooking is a pretty masculine art, look at all the best chefs and there are few women on the top of the list, there is not a single female michelin rated chef in america.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skiing? I wouldn't say that was masculine. The obvious ones would be things like drawing/painting (watercolours seem more popular with women, I prefer oils), pottery, playing a musical instrument (used to be a required skill for young women), embroidery, making clothes, gardening, Temari, etc. If a part of a couple, then join in. I took my gf to the Maldives to take a diving course, then to remote parts of the world on diving expeditions. She loved it. I also got her on a sailing course, then chartered a yacht in the Med, so it was an actual Captain/1st Mate relationship. There are no shortage of things to do. No reason women can't do martial arts either, I have met a few in MA classes. Or fencing, or archery, or photography (some women become very keen on landscape or macro photography).

[–]pilledwillingly 29 points30 points  (2 children)

A point everyone is missing. Going out to the bar as a social thing a terrible life choice. My workmates are all fat alcoholics and I have to live with them (shift roster), they hit up the pub every afternoon and I'll go with them maybe twice a year. I hang around these dudes 12 hours a day I do not want to spend what little free time I have drinking and getting fat and talking about what we gave in common as a group.... which is fucking work.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think it comes from the old work day that working men used to have. Like in the 1800s. Wives and kids would stay home and men would go to the pub and hang out/joke with each other. Its an old tradition that continues today, but now that people have more income it isn't really necessary or that entertaining anymore. Especially since women go now too.

[–]laere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup and then they try to cockblock you when you're hitting up a cutie at the bar.

[–]Monsterpiece42 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I had a coworker like this. We were just about best bros. Both of us are big off-road enthusiasts. Every weekend we'd either be wrenching or wheeling. Everyone (read: all the lames) called us husbands, or twins or whatever and I went through the same deal. It was oddly satisfying and motivating just to see everyone get up in a huff about something that had nothing to do with them.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Their jealous that they don't have passionate interests in anything meaningful.

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand their frustration. It is, however, unacceptable.

[–]HappyScribe 42 points43 points  (13 children)

Why are your co-workers on your facebook page? Why can they see your photos? There are privacy settings that can stop that.

I've long learnt not to mix work and my private life. If you tell people you're having an amazing life, they'll get jealous. If they ask how your weekend was, just say, "Quiet".

It's good to have secrets. You don't need to be an information faucet, spewing out all of the details of your life. Learn to become a sponge, give out a few drips of information here and there, and soak up information about those around you.

As an experiment, next week try not to talk about anything other than work. See where it gets you, and you might want to ask yourself why you're so desperate to tell these women about your life.

[–]Areimanes 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Why are your co-workers on your facebook page? Why can they see your photos? There are privacy settings that can stop that.

I've received friend request from people I work with. I add them to the 'colleagues list' which severely limits what they can see/what I post - even though I barely use Facebook anyway (people tag me on occasions - that's it). I'd rather not have the hassle of not accepting their friend request.

You don't need to be an information faucet, spewing out all of the details of your life.

Couldn't agree more. I posted this before, but I'll cite it as it is relevant:

Fun anecdote: I was branded sexist by a male co-worker (out of shape, bitch tits, full blown beta) in my first office job a couple of years ago because I said I didn't take women out to restaurants on the first date, and that I expected them to pay for their own drinks when we hung out for the first time. Can you believe that shit? Note: I learned my lesson from that encounter.

Law 38: Think As You Like But Behave Like Others"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

some people need to show the world how awesome their life is. Not saying OP is one of them but that is mainly why some people keep their facebooks open for the world to see

[–]unsafeword 8 points8 points [recovered]

I thought that was the main reason for having Facebook at all.

[–]drummmergeorge 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Everyone wants an audience.

[–]romerom 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yep. You hit the nail right on the head. In the old days, a man's home was his castle. These days it's common practice for the woman to have control over the entire house, and if the guy is lucky he might get to have a "man cave" in the garage or the basement where he gets to keep his own stuff.

I actively use Facebook. I was in the army for a few years and you end up meeting a bunch of really cool people from all over the place who all end up in different places. It's really the only easy way I have to keep in touch with everyone. It's also a really easy way to invite a ton of people to a BBQ or any other type of event.

[–]rpscrote 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly the same here. event organization and communication tool. Very handy for that purpose.

[–]1Sergnb 1 point2 points  (1 child)

We all know we should be content with ourselves and whatnot but i mean, it's fun letting others know you are having fun. It lends itself to oportunities to meet other people that are interested in the same things. Without the public nature of OP's life he wouldnt have had the fun hangouts with his male coworkers that he had.

You can't go aroun acting like everyone's gonna be a cunt to you man. I get what you mean with the apparent seeking of validation that OP is after, but if you are not ever going to tell people about the fun shit you do how do you even plan on meeting fun people to hang out with? And that's assuming you already do fun shit by yourseld, what if you are seeking new things to do? Imagine if everyone at your workplace would tell you they just sit at home and stare at a wall for 48 hours every weekend because they want their shit to be secret. You never know when you are gonna meet someone awesome through common interests

[–]laere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best thing to prevent this is to just not use social media at all.

I remember exactly when I started my current job, and literally after being there for a few months people wanted my facebook, phone number, etc. I just simply said I don't use those things much, so what's the point?

I also don't go out after work with them anymore, as I did once before and all they do is bitch and talk shit about...surprise, work.

I'd also get sort of shit tested by them when I'd politely decline their invitations too; "Well what else are you going to do tonight?"

People really are clueless about the world we live in. They think that it's impossible for someone other than themselves to actually, you know, have a life outside of TV and work.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Quick shit-test defeater to flip the script on this one.

"So SpinPlates, I hear you, John and Eric are scaling Everest next week? How do yall have the time for all these adventures!?"


[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 24 points25 points  (1 child)

My simple answer to how I have the time is "I don't watch TV."

Doesn't get me laid, but it shuts them up.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Who cares what the walrus queens think about your bro time. They are about as useful to us as a bicycle is to a fish. Of course now a woman will say you are harassing her by fat-shaming if you don't treat her like a princess when she looks like a tractor tire. Ignoring/removing from FB sounds like a good strategy.

[–]1CowardlyPetrov 51 points52 points  (11 children)

First of all, don't adopt that gay language when you talk about yourself. That's failing a shit test. Don't internalize their bullshit. You're not dating your friends.

Second, you sound great. I love kayaking! I'm not a pro, but I did it several times when I was younger and really enjoyed it. It was in bays and stuff on the coast though and not in rivers. I have been planning on learning to sail proper and do river kayaking in the near future. And fishing. It's all good stuff.

Do you join clubs for these sorts of things? I am struggling to find non-beta losers to have as friends and to join me on such adventures.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (7 children)

I am struggle to find non-beta losers to have as friends and to join me on such adventures.

I think the vast majority of us do - those of us that know how to be men and take care of ourselves and kick ass

One way to improve is to lead by example, and other men come around because they can see the value in aspiring to be masculine

[–]1CowardlyPetrov 24 points25 points  (5 children)

And of course to some extent I am an omega loser myself. I am TRYING to become a man. This isn't a movie. Taking the red pill isn't this moment where something clicks in your head and suddenly everything is different. I am trying. I am fighting. And so the average loser offends my sensibilities, but I bet I myself am insufferable to a lot of real men.

It's like lifting. I am big enough to know how pathetic the average man is, but I am also big enough to know I am small as fuck.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I'm in a similar place, but I'm probably younger. I just moved in to a new place with a guy who's dating a hambeast and he literally waits on her, and a "natural" ive lived here a few weeks and he's already brought a couple girls home. It's nice seeing both every day, its like seeing both of your choices in life in front of you every single day.

[–]laere 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If I were you, I'd hang out with the guy pulling in girls a lot. 100% he has a go getter, positive attitude, and that rubbing off on you would do wonders. Being around positive people vs negative is like fucking night and day.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is just how I feel cowardlypetrov. Let me know if you are in California!

[–]foldpak111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Others will see it and want to team up. Definitely befriend men in the 16-22 range if they are open minded and have that fire in their eyes. They keep you on your toes and you can mentor them. Shoot I usually learn from them.

[–]StoneTiger40 6 points6 points [recovered]

You can take a look at meetup.com and see what kind of groups may be in your area. But be warned, you could meet some cool people or you could also meet some fat dumpy chicks trying to be outdoorsy and some Betas who don't know how to go into the fucking woods by themselves, so they have to have an Alpha lead them. I know. I'm a hiking trip leader.

For me, my best group of friends I found just by posting up on Facebook years ago, who the hell wants to climb a mountain in the snow with me? Bingo. Found my current good friends. As posted by another poster, lead and they will follow.

[–]Noze_Zelle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll throw in another plug for meetup.com

When I moved to a new area for work I found a social group for people in their 20s-30s that just went to bars or restaurants occasionally. Made some friends and have since reduced my involvement in the group. There's only so much hamster one can take.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This kind of reminds me of how sometimes people who have been to war miss it when they're back with their families because they appreciated the bond they had with their platoon.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 11 points12 points  (4 children)

It's really much better when the men do stuff on their own as a group and then you deal with women one at a time. Never mix groups of men and groups of women if possible.

I've seen groups of men with long histories destroyed when women penetrate that group and take it over by manipulating it. Pretty soon the guys are all against each other.

Women are truly more ruthless and evil than men... always have been.

Guys can just go have fun and there's no drama.

[–]MHOOD01 1 point2 points  (3 children)

And then you see one of your buddies girlfriends disrespecting him just to get a laugh out of the boys.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Feminists know that all they need is a few female "spies" in every male group to sabotage that group. This is why they militantly seek to break up any male groups that are shielded from women.

It's like war.


"Joshua sent spies to Jericho, the first city of Canaan to be taken, and discovered that the land was in fear of Israel and their God. The Israelites marched around the walls once every day for six days with the priests and the Ark of the Covenant. On the seventh day they marched seven times around the walls, then the priests blew their ram's horns, the Israelites raised a great shout, and the walls of the city fell. Following God's law of herem the Israelites took no slaves or plunder but slaughtered every man, woman and child in Jericho, sparing only Rahab, a Canaanite prostitute who had sheltered the spies, and her family."

Bible stories are pure fiction. (but illustrate good points)

[–]ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They are so insecure because you keep rejecting them that the only way they can rationalize it is that you have to be gay.

[–]mirinrustles 5 points6 points  (5 children)

How do you guys handle the work week when everyone in the office always goes out for drinks but you turn them down? I've been told this is a negative thing. I've shot down corporate social events, except for the ones that matter (holidays) or the ones that happen during the work hour.

Most of my coworkers know that I'm the outdoorsy type like you OP. Hiking, camping, etc. the only event that I've attended outside the workday is a hiking trip one of the managers planned out.

Thoughts on avoiding the social BS at work? As long as I do my chit and I get recognized for doing so I should be okay right? I mean it's mostly just the women of the office that always ask why I don't go out for drinks with them (which I think is a waste of money). I'm in tech if that matters. I could understand a sales persons' kind of obliged to go out for "networking".

[–]ECoast_Man 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Ok. I might be able to help here. Lawyer, so I have a lot of 'mandatory' socializing on my plate with clients and such.

1) just slip out. This is so easy it's stupid. Everyone is talking about going for drinks, just fucking leave. People will notice for 2 seconds, then go back to other shit.

2) choose carefully. I definitely skip out on more forced socializing than others in terms of numbers, but in terms of quality I might be higher. If it's drinks with someone, then maybe skip that in exchange for going on the fundraising hike, for example.

I have a shit load of tips, so PM me if there's anything specific.

[–]Areimanes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For every three events they invite you, go to one even though it might cut into your free time.

I'm much like you, I prefer the outdoor activities with my own friends instead of hanging around in a bar with people I've already been forced to spend upwards of 40+ hours a week with.

However, you don't want to be branded as anti-social! Networking/branding yourself still is key to receive promotions.

Unless you're a woman/minority, in that case you'll get fast tracked into high powered positions thanks to quotas/affirmative action even though you don't have the qualifications and there are a lot more qualified people (read: men) that would otherwise have received that promotion.

[–]laere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is my personal experience, but 100% of the time socializing outside of work, with co-workers, is a complete waste of time. I'd say the only benefit would be for a career in which there are events that can help with promoting business or business itself.

Every time I've gone out, the conversation has always been negative garbage. People talking about their struggles with life, idiots at work, old co-workers, it's just a complete cluster fuck of negativity drowned downed with alcohol.

I just avoid it at all costs, and decline their invites as cordially as possible. I've gotten flack from it because all the sudden I stopped going, and I guess some people took offense to that.

Iff they could look at the situation from a 3rd person point of view they'd realize not everyone gets thrills from gossipy garbage.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of my high school friend group a lot (I'm graduating in four days). Freshmen and sophomore year my friends and I would never attempt to include girls in our plans and we would just play sports/go on adventures/do crazy shit. I would always get angry because while we were doing that other groups of guys were hanging with the girls. Now I know they would just do stupid beta things with the girls who would lose interest fast. Junior and senior year the girls became very interested in our activities and eventually started begging us to hangout and take them places without us even trying. It really was eye opening.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I always have more fun when I am hanging with my bros versus a girl. Intellectual conversation and shooting the shit beats child management every time.

[–]thefisherman1961 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The insinuation that you're gay is an easy shit test to bat away, it's just agree and amplify to the max.

[–]GREF_[🍰] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You sound awesome, I'd totally be your bro.

[–]ChadThundercockII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn it ! Your post reminds me that I need some cool friends. The ones I have now are 'talkers'. Where do you find some cool bros to hang out with ? I often find one who like to workout but not travel or read.

[–]dub121686 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have more fun with the boys than I ever did with any girls

[–]Killigraphy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Any time a hole can't shut up with her shit-tests, just have a few heavy hitters in the chamber. I grew up in the ghetto, so taking the piss out of someone was part of the life. With women I tend to go further and destroy their appearance, bitches hate when you go HAM on their makeup.

[–]1oldredder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

in a workplace if that becomes harassment you'll get fired so it won't work there.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love those shit tests. Matches my playful frame.

I'd do my best gay impression and say something like "Wellll firrrsttt we went kayakkkiiingg, then we got luuunnchhh like omg it was like amazzinngg"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are no jokes.

They were sneak fag-shaming.

[–]whatgold 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Remember how much your time is worth guys.

Yet you continue working in an office

[–]romerom 18 points19 points  (1 child)

probably pays more than the coal mine

[–]Rus_s13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I spat some food out at (image that)

[–]3rdLion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I caught some shit just this week for going for a meal with a close friend who I haven't seen in a while, I see no problem with it.

[–]Ehcadroj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm definitely the black "anti social" sheep of the office but I'm always doing fun, physical activities and posting pictures on Facebook

This is the world I now live in and my children will grow up in... Only need 51% to be better then the rest of the herd.

[–]BlackFallout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep it up man! Good work. Just laugh at their silly (shit test)"Jokes" and always have a smile on your face.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me and my buddy went on his john boat last Sunday for like 8 hours. We just drank beer and talked on the water the whole time. I enjoy that so much more than if I took a woman out

[–]OctaShot 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm curious as to how you responded to those shit tests.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I feel like agreeing and amplifying would be a little weird in this case

"Do you rub sunscreen on each other before you head over to the mountains?"

"Nah I suck his dick real good cuz it's difficult to get hard in the cold up the"

[–]bonekeeper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you rub sunscreen on each other before you head over to the mountains?

Just smile and ask if she has been thinking about my body all oiled up a lot with her dirty mind.

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