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We fucked, how should I reply to this? She didn't get blackout drunk, but we were relatively very drunk at some point. She sent me a text asking if we fucked, it wasn't awkward drunk sloppy sex so I doubt that it was forgettable sex. She clearly enjoyed it.

This girl also has a boyfriend that she was in communication with during the whole night, and was constantly lying to him about who she is with and where she is right in front of me throughout the night. Big red flag on her part.


[–]abdada170 points171 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Might not be her, maybe her boyfriend sent a text using her phone.

Reply "lol, why would you say that? We were practically sober, you acted like a lady and all night you only talked about your boyfriend"

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bro. Badass. Glad the guy who fucked my ex (gf at the time) hadn't read this advice.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

OR she might be about to use that as "but I didn't consent, I was drunk, that was rape" so, denying in an amused way is probably best. Even if she is looking to dick down again, it's not worth the risks.

[–]Dirkz23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

this

[–]Luis_McLovin28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Definitely, Amused Mastery.

Only other alternative is ghost, though AM works well here

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And it doesn't even answer the question! That's the best part!

[–]iSnORtcHuNkz69-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This!

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon74 points75 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

DO NOT REPLY

If you must reply, say "no".

Girl can't remember sex = you just admitted rape.

This girl also has a boyfriend

She's setting herself up for a rape alibi.

Edit: as mentioned elsewhere: don't reply. Saying no when she remembers yes = lying which she'll conflate in her head as rape. Saying yes when she can't remember = rape. There is no way to win here. Don't reply, do not have further contact with this woman. You have been warned.

Further Edit: you don't have to ignore her, just don't reply to this question. NEVER reply to this question.

[–]IBAR_2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Further Edit: you don't have to ignore her

Upside vs downside of further contact?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Avoid contact if possible - but might be unavoidable if work or friends or for whatever reason she has access to your life.

I think this is a setup.

[–]topothebellcurve36 points37 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

She may be hoping you txt no to use as evidence in the argument she is having with her bf right now.

[–]babybopp32 points33 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Or a rape claim.

[–]dongpal11 points12 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

this or her boyfriend asked through their phone

[–]UseForThrowAwayStuff points points [recovered] | Copy Link

do people actually do this? how does the logistics work? he steals her phone for a few hours while this chat happens? it would surface in the future when the girl meets the guy again and then the creeper bf is found going behind her back.

this must be some low class shit if it were the case.

[–]GC0W309 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Crazy betas will absolutely do this shit.

this must be some low class shit if it were the case.

Crazy jealous is real. I helped an investigator with a murder case one time.

The suspect killed his wife, his wife's lover (she was fucking her boss), and some dude who was just trying to make a purchase at the wife's job. Then himself.

Don't put your dick in crazy, and be careful when putting your dick in married.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some betas are both bitter and crafty....

[–]1oldredder2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

People actually do this. They'll run off with the phone or use it while she's in the shower, etc.

Happens to my buddy all the damn time. He's got a lot of broads on the go but one in particular is overly curious AND feels no shame about snooping.

[–]SinisterIntentions241 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I could see this, before I found trp I was a pretty insecure beta. Always thought my gfs were cheating on me before the relationship ended. Pretty dark times, makes me cringe now haha

[–]Arcturus_ points points [recovered] | Copy Link

It would be more like him accusing her of cheating, her denying and either 1) he says text the guy I want to see his response or 2) she volunteers to do it to take a chance (a big chance) and prove herself "innocent".

[–]UseForThrowAwayStuff points points [recovered] | Copy Link

classic healthy relationship

[–]2niczar35 points36 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Pro-tip: if you're accused of something and absolutely have to answer, always deny, even in the face of evidence. You can always claim amnesia due to alcohol later. Also don't go into details.

[–]TestosTyrone112 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That's not a pro-tip. You need to know the evidence against you before you do something like that. If anyone can prove you lied about one thing, they will think you lied about everything

[–]2niczar4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And if you don't deny they don't even need to prove anything.

[–]1oldredder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You'll never get that chance.

This is a pro-tip.

Deny and when possible say nothing.

[–]Cunt_Robber-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yup. Be vague. Like "i kinda remember getting down with someone but I cant remember who, mightve been one of your friends" and put the ball back in her court to either deny it or to "refresh yor memory" and admit to remembering the encounter. Give her AND yourself plausible deniability

[–]2niczar10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's too specific and not plausibly deniable. Deny and say as little as possible.

[–]Cunt_Robber0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shit youre right, and the top comment is brilliantly insightful. Thanks trp, learned a new piece of wisdom today

[–]Yashugan0041 points42 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If you reply yes, you're setting yourself up for a rape charge. ASD will kick in and the hamster will create a post-fact world where clearly this was all you and she didn't even want it because she's not a bad girl, and so you must have forced her, and so you're a bad guy and clearly you deserve this.

Answer no, if at all. She might know it's a lie, but it's in line with her feelings.

[–]099v0s0d914 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I see it the other way, if OP says that they didn't and she remembers having sex (which I think she does at least a little.. or else why would she ask?) OP's denial could make her think "shit, if he's denying it then he must have taken advantage of me.."

If it were me I would probably tease her about something "Jesus, you don't remember? You seemed pretty keen.." That's honest and affirms the consent.

[–]1oldredder3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No.

she was fully awake and texting her boyfriend while being fucked, as per other comments, so that scenario you're imagining is not possible.

[–]099v0s0d90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure you understood me correctly. I was saying that she probably remembers it.. if blurrily

Also, I don't read it as she was texting while fucking.. OP can correct me if I'm wrong

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"If you're not walking funny, then no."

[–]Elodere3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Uncle Vasiliy back at it again.

[–]youcantdenythat13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It could be the BF snooping in her phone. You shouldn't be texting her anyway.

Personally I would ignore the text.

[–]1oldredder4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yet another reason why "texting is for logistics" and that AIN'T logistics.

Simple rules save your ass.

[–]099v0s0d90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True, could be, but I would only care if he had some way of knowing who you were and tracking you down.

[–]TheGatesOfValhalla9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ignoooooreeee all texts do not respond

[–]brinkleybuzz7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't respond until you talk to an attorney. You could be facing a rape charge or Title IX charge, especially if she's trying to save face with her boyfriend, and your response could be used as evidence against you.

[–]boscoist3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

as others have said, the only winning move here is not to play. say nothing and stay silent. you don't want to plate a chick with a GF and you certainly don't want to LTR a cheater. there's really no need to ever talk to her again.

[–]epicness3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would just not respond to this text. If she brings it up in person, respond then with something. It could be her boyfriend, potential rape charges could also be a possibility

[–]1oldredder4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

deny/avoid

Classic rape-trap.

If she can't remember it she ought to so now the ONLY thing to help her fuck your life over is a text you can't deny later in court admitting you had sex.

Boyfriend/cheating: even BIGGER reason, once she's caught, to make up a rape story.

[–]50pluspiller7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Your response: "Did you take advantage of me?" or a variation: "Whoa! You DID take advantage of me!"

[–]Dirkz0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

or this

[–]plenty_of_eesh2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Make up your mind, Dirkz

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Willow-girl0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not necessarily. "Blackout" drinking is a state that refers, not to unconsciousness, but intoxication to the point where you don't remember what happened. I was always a blackout drinker beyond about 5 drinks. Oh what fun I must have had, LOL.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]kankouillotte1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Big red flag on her part

Red flag for a gf, but white flag for your dick.

[–]davidrosesfashionbag3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I don't remember."

[–]absolucion3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the many reasons why I don't fuck around with women in relationships. This sounds like serious post-coital ASD to me. I would follow the suggestion of others and say that you didn't because you couldn't get it up from all the alcohol. I would then proceed to soft next her to be on the safe side.

[–]fcb982923 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

relatively very

LOL

She was either too drunk to remember (which is why I drink no alcohol at all) or she is shit testing you. The answer is that you don't remember.

[–]Orig_analUse_rname points points [recovered] | Copy Link

This. "I was drunk too I don't remember."

[–]1oldredder6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

not acceptable.

Courts will always decide in that case the man is a rapist and woman was a victim. Always.

[–]TestosTyrone12 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why didn't she ask you that in the morning? Tell her to call you.

[–]hamstercide4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She can still record the call.

[–]Red_M31 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"You were a good girl", gives her feelz deniability, gives her validation if she remembers the sex. No lose response.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"who is this?"

[–]dgillz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How do know she wasn't blackout drunk?

Blackout != passing out. A blackout is when you can't remember something. A person in an alcoholic blackout, while you can generally tell they have been drinking, still functions pretty normally. You can carry on entire conversations with people, play cards, pool, video games etc - and even win these games - and be blackout drunk. They literally do not remember any of it the next day.

Source: I am a recovering alcoholic who has blacked out many times.

[–]LordThunderbolt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know why I dudes aren't smart enough to not fuck drunk chicks.

[–]099v0s0d90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or just a one character:

"?"

Make her lay down her cards a bit so you know what you're dealing with

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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