MetaThe Red Pill Handbook (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil

As many of you know the Reddit platform is a double edged sword for the Red Pill community. On one hand Reddit is easily accessible, has a voting system that rewards quality content and has a low barrier of entry for new writers. On the other hand Chairman Pao is making a mess of things lately, the teenage ADHD crew snubs quality advanced material and reading on a monitor for long periods of time sucks dick balls.

I'm a huge fan of The Red Pill Handbook. It has some of the best content ever produced by this community organized in a clear logical way. The problem is that it needs more polish and is in a .pdf format so no one ever reads the whole manuscript.

I think it would be a good idea to produce a physical hard copy of The Red Pill handbook. That way when Chairman Pao makes the great leap forward she'll have to pry a physical book of our callused gym bro hands, in order to take the Red Pill away from us.

When and if this subreddit does get banned we can exploit the publicity to bring this book into the public narrative. Someone can wave the Red Pill handbook in front of Dr. Oz's stupid face or mention it on the main stream media. SJW's will try to censor the book, however that will only give it more publicity. There is potential to turn this into a massive unplugging with sweeping cultural implications.

We can edit and polish this manuscript via a Wiki platform. Also I know there are a lot of talented artists who would be an invaluable resource for chapter and cover art. We can print quality hardcover copies for about $7 a piece on LightnngSource.com. The proceeds will be used to help Red Pill school acquire the necessary infrastructure for the new home of the Red Pill.

There is an entire parade of freaks dedicated to our destruction. An amalgamation of human refuse wants to censor your voice and destroy your community. Fuck them. We young intelligent men are the Red Pill. We young Intelligent men are the most powerful force on earth. It's time we take the cultural offensive.

[–][deleted] 212 points213 points  (5 children)

has a voting system that rewards quality content

Well, it has a voting system.

[–]Spurnout 5 points6 points  (2 children)

not sure if i should upvote this or not ;-)

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The real question is, does it matter?

[–]Spurnout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now you're going way too meta.

[–]Kalepsis 72 points73 points  (38 children)

I am Grammar Hitler, so I will be contributing my time for the purpose of editing for spelling errors, syntax, etc.

I support the notion of a hardcopy wholeheartedly but please consult me before sending it to a printer.

[–]Thethrowawayoption 39 points39 points [recovered]

Grammar Goebbels, reporting in.

[–]StillRedder 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Wait til Pao hears of this! That bitch will be Schindler!

[–]Siex 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Schindler was a good guy ťhough, that went above and beyond for his fellow humans and endured great amounts of personal sacrafice in effort of human rights

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[–]NotUpToAnythingGood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is some impressive circular logic.

I like it!

[–]Kalepsis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What the hell did I just read?

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I live in Boston so I hear it that way no matter what

[–]tuxedoburrito 8 points9 points  (23 children)

I'd be down to help design a cover, and some chapter art.

edit: A few concept designs I threw together.

[–]LAZY_MUFFIN_SCOUT 11 points12 points  (11 children)

[–]rpreader 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I love that simple classic red. Doesn't need to be anything fancy

[–]trp_gremlin 4 points5 points  (3 children)

FUCK REDDIT! Had few paragraphs and it got lost.

TLDR: 1-not sure what's on it.

2-Good but gives off erotic literature feel also evokes similarity witch Victor Prides book.

3-bland, could work if the font is darker/different.

4-my favourite. Gives of a feeling of a man starting a new life.

[–]waylandertheslayer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

4 also reminds me of 'They Live'.

[–]Red_SoloCup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i like #4 too cuz the lenses of his glasses are red. love that attention to detail

[–]BusinessAsUsual_2015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd push for a higher production value. Royalty-free images as cover have a cheap feel to them. Commission for a badass illustration about core red pill concepts.

Personally I think the image of a man heaving himself out of marble (http://i.imgur.com/t0bIm7b.png) would be a prime visualisation of the self-reliance, results-oriented and self-improving core of the TRP tenets

While it sounds optional, great design for this book will make the difference between random online texts thrown together by madmen or a generation-defining publication of a counter-culture.

GLO, if you push ahead with this: Take your time. You can do it fast, or you can do it right. And I feel doing it right is way more important.

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[–]JanLul 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Feels more like a 'communist handbook' to me. A white font would work better.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All that matter is that it has a RED pill on it.

[–]Kalepsis 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I think a picture of Ron Swanson would be more fitting than a dude on the beach. The first one isn't bad, though.

[–]RedRumRedSunTRP 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ron Swanson got married through the state to a post-wall single mom though..

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[–]tuxedoburrito 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've never read or seen it. I was thinking Greek culture, knowledge, wisdom, pillars of strength.

[–]gugulo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why is there no red pill on those concepts?

[–]tuxedoburrito -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because that's tacky. Literally having a pill or the color red is too easy. Doesn't look good.

Edit: I own all the rights to those photos, but at 1am I didn't have any extra photos to a red pill, I've an idea for a mock up cover with a red pill I could use but it'll be a few days I'm going camping.

[–]Kalepsis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would pay extra for a leatherbound copy.

[–]NaughtyFred 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Please do. I tired of visiting the blogs that are popular around here and seeing grammar mistakes, words used in the wrong place and other dumb mistakes that a high school education and a spellchecker could fix.

[–]Kalepsis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only reservation I have is the possibility of losing the gist of other users' comments if I fix more than simply spelling. The book is comprised of many unfiltered, unpolished thoughts that work well as long as they are understood in the writer's particular context or frame of mind but may lose their efficacy when "doctored up". It's a fine line to tread and, unlike major publishers who can just contact an author for clarification, I won't have the ability to ask some of the authors what they meant to say.

Overall, I would guess that almost everyone who submitted comments that were included in the book will be ok with fixing small spelling and grammar errors.

[–]AntixD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd be willing to help as well

[–]DavecatsPajamas 1 points1 points [recovered]

You forgot the comma before "but."

[–]Kalepsis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There should be no comma before "but" in that sentence.

[–]knitro 245 points245 points [recovered]

From the intro:

I am here to say, for better or for worse, the frame around public discourse is a feminist frame, and we've lost our identity because of it.

But this isn't the end of the world. The world is changing, but men are still part of it. We just need to make sure we're changing with it.

It's too easy to blame feminism for our troubles.

Men, our happiness is our responsibility. Culture has always shifted, it's dynamic and fluid. It has never and will never stay still.

Feminism was inevitable. Equal rights are something I strongly am in support of. For men and women.

Women have the right to pursue happiness. Nobody should tell them otherwise.

Maximizing happiness is the goal of every living creature on this planet.

Men, we need to recognize that since women are rightfully seeking out happiness, evolutionary psychology is more relevant today than ever in the past century (and possibly longer). We no longer run the show. And I, for one, don't disagree that marriage had to change if we were to see equal rights.

But now it's time to get serious and realize that our strategy needs to change. Feminism is a sexual strategy. It puts women into the best position they can find, to select mates, to determine when they want to switch mates, to locate the best DNA possible, and to garner the most resources they can individually achieve

This is the redpill I signed up to during its nascent days, not the clickbaity anger that we see everywhere. Let's get back to this, everyone.

[–]-Quotidian 96 points97 points  (1 child)

I fully agree. For me, the Red Pill was never about feminism--it was about me, about men, and about what was working and what wasn't working in our lives. We weren't happy. We didn't feel right, didn't feel like men, and we didn't know why.

Unplugging is the first step of many. On the road back to manhood.

[–]alpha-game 13 points14 points  (0 children)

this is one of the most important things it's been for me too. positive identity for men. that shit DOESN'T EXIST in today's world anymore.

[–]LongElm 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Totally right. Time to reread that handbook again after some time with FR and meta posts

[–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the redpill I signed up to during its nascent days, not the clickbaity anger that we see everywhere

It's unavoidable, when TRP is demonised everywhere else on reddit you're going to get a ton of Stage 2 guys coming here. Just got to hold frame, set an example and not get too bent out of shape about it.

[–]-Quotidian 35 points36 points  (3 children)

Some of these entries are fantastic, and the Handbook is a valuable resource…but some good entries are tempered by great comment feedback. There is much wisdom in our community that I don't see in the Red Pill Handbook, or I see it at the very end and largely without context.

I think a physical Red Pill Handbook could do a lot of good…but this isn't it. Not yet. If we're going to do the thing, let's not just do it--let's blast a crater around it, fill that crater with SJW tears, and carve a monument to it's glory at the center of that lake. Let's turn this iron into steel and beat it into a masterpiece.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I agree, the comments are very valuable. What if we collect the best quotes in a thread? We've all saved our favourites, so no doubt we could assemble a good collection in short order.

[–]-Quotidian 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Shouldn't be too difficult. Contact a mod, see how it goes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's posts of the top valuable and rich comments from trp.

[–]bobbybluepill 43 points44 points  (36 children)

I have experience publishing books. Currently, I have a book published via Amazon which is available in paperback worldwide through 100s of retail channels--you could go to a bookstore in pick it up. My book is catalogued by the Library of Congress as well. Additionally, it is available for download on Kindle, iTunes, and Google Play. I have a PDF version available at a website for a discounted price also.

There are three big hurdles in doing something like this:

  1. The handbook will need to be formatted as a manuscript so that it can be printed and bound. This will take a lot of formatting work.
  2. In order to distribute the book, someone will need a company with an EIN for tax purposes, since the book will be sold (preferably, at cost plus a bit more to cover business taxes, incorporation fees, etc.). Who is willing to set up a corporation with their name attached to it? This will be searchable.
  3. Kindle, iTunes, and Google Play all have different processes for publishing. Currently, my own book looks great on Kindle and Google Play but absolutely terrible on iTunes because Steve Jobs put forth insane formatting standards.

Honestly, IMO, the best bet is to just go with a simple PDF and have it hosted to Puerarchy.com. A physical book sounds nice, but there is risk associated with it and a lot of hoops to jump through.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 28 points29 points  (35 children)

  1. The book is already formatted in epub format
  2. Rollo is already selling a Red Pill book so is Jack Donavon there are plenty of people who don't give a fuck. We have an entire network of men in Non Angloshpere countries that we can use to register.
  3. This is a physical hard copy so this isn't a concern

[–]bobbybluepill 29 points30 points  (34 children)

The book is already formatted in epub format

epub will not translate well to a physical form factor.

Rollo is already selling a Red Pill book so is Jack Donavon there are plenty of people who don't give a fuck.

Understood. I'm simply pointing out that someone will have to associate themselves with a physical book. It needs to be known and that person needs to understand the repercussions associated.

This is a physical hard copy so this isn't a concern

I sell many more e-books than physical books. To limit this to hardcopy only doesn't make much sense (to me at least). TRP exists largely because of it's online presence. Additionally, a hard copy will not be able to hyperlink to relevant examples, studies, etc. cited within the handbook.

I get that you want the proceeds to go to RedPillSchool for infrastructure, but you will amass more money making it available on Kindle, iTunes, and Google Play.

I'm simply giving insight, having sold several thousands of books... Do as you wish.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 16 points17 points  (24 children)

What is the best format for a physical form factor?

There are plenty of people who would gladly associate with the book. We could easily attach some Eastern European or South American man to this project who would face zero backlash.

What you dont understand is that you can't wave an E Book in front of Oprah's fat face you can't give an Ebook as a gift. A lot of people here want a physical souvenir that they can point to and say I was a part of that. Their are ideological implications to having a physical book as the red pill has zero physical presence in its current state.

A quality book with nice paper and detailed illustrations can be a source of pride for this community. Im sure an Ebook could be produced as well without too much hassle.

[–]bobbybluepill 9 points10 points  (12 children)

What is the best format for a physical form factor?

Here's what you need to consider...

You need to scale the manuscript to the appropriate size for your book. Octavo (6" x 9") and quarto (9.5" x 12") are the most commonly published sizes. This differs from your standard Letter or A4 (European) sizes that we typically print off for school and business.

In addition to making sure the book looks good at publishable size, you need to alternate (odd vs even) the size of the inside margins to leave room for binding. Then you'll handle things like a Table of Content, Title Pages, Appendices, and the formatting overall (posts vs. comments and their children). All of this needs to be standardized.

It's possible to do almost everything you'd want to do in Word. If you wanted to get extremely professional, you would want someone with Adobe InDesign skills.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Are there programs that will automatically format the book in this way? With a community as large as ours im sure there are people here with experience on Adobe InDesighn

[–]bobbybluepill 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I just looked over the PDF v.2... This will be relatively easy to format because there aren't any graphics, tables, charts, etc. You may have to change around some page breaks and your TOC will completely change as well.

I'd also suggest changing the font to something like Garamound--this will be easier to read on printed text.

[–]CharlieIndiaShitlord 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Just an aside question for you, I used to do desktop publishing for magazines about a decade ago. InDesign was making serious inroads back then, but Quark was still the go to for many companies. Has that changed?

[–]bobbybluepill 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes. QuarkXPress used to be the gold standard, but that's since changed to InDesign (Quark is regarded as #2).

[–]NihilDicoAmplius 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So everything we do for print we do with LaTeX, which also takes care of odd vs even pages and standardization. How does it compare to InDesign? Like Gimp and Photoshop?

[–]CharlieIndiaShitlord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should ask that of /u/bobbybluepill, I've been out of the industry too long to give an educated answer.

[–]bobbybluepill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really don't know either, as I've never used LaTeX. My brief understanding is that LaTeX requires code work, whereas InDesign is more WYSIWYG.

[–]Silverbacked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are there programs that will automatically format the book in this way?

LaTeX is FOSS software that helps automate a lot of formatting, TOC, glossary, citation type stuff. It's typically used for scientific and mathematical publishing.

[–]IDefyAxioms 0 points1 point  (3 children)

As someone not in publishing but has interest in helping,

When you say alternate the size of the margins, can you go into detail how you mean?

Is it something to the effect of creating a wider left margin on your first page (side of the page, rather), and then on the second creating a wider right margin?

[–]bobbybluepill 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Exactly. The left and right gutters need to be set so that the margins visually appear equal, but knowing that you need to leave extra paper for binding.

It's not difficult to do, even in Word. It's just something to keep in mind and something that doesn't exist within epub. This, just not just as simple as converting an epub file into something else. Many, seeming small, and annoying, elements will need to be changed correctly for a print version to look good.

[–]IDefyAxioms 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks for the details. Though I probably shouldn't tonight, I'll grab InDesign and see what I can do.

Let's say we were to use Octavo (48 Laws is that size and roughly similar page length and it's a pleasant size) & probably Garamond (Serif fonts are easier on the eyes, I imagine?), what would be an appropriate margin? Or does InDesign set proper publishing margins when you select a sizing standard?

[–]bobbybluepill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's not a straightforward answer because the gutter margin will change depending on how many pages are being bound. Here are inside margin guidelines for use with Amazon's CreateSpace (I'm assuming this will leave you with .25" of negative space, since they reference that as their margin minimum elsewhere):

Page Count Inside Margin
24 to 150 pages .375"
151 to 300 pages .5"
301 to 500 pages .625"

Ultimately, you need to speak with the company binding the book and determine exactly how much of the page will be eaten up by the gutter. Once you've determined that, you'll determine the margins, less the bound portion, using one of the following formulas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canons_of_page_construction

Using Van de Graaf's 2:3:4:6 (inner:top:outer:bottom) proportions are easiest.

[–]1Halfjor 6 points7 points  (1 child)

For all TRP has done for me I'd be happy to donate for incorporation, initial publishing fees, or whatever it may be, if it is needed.

I can't think of many things I've felt the actual urge to give back to. For TRP though.. I'm down with taking it from metaphysical to physical.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why do we need someone from eastern Europe or south america??

I'd put my name on this shit, what's the worse they're gonna do?

[–]Master1176 4 points5 points  (4 children)

My book was published in a paperback form (and ebook, of course), and it came out great. My publisher even knows about TRP, I've talked to them about it when I was considering doing a male 50 shades. I would even do it myself under a pen name.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 30 points31 points  (3 children)

My publisher even knows about TRP, I've talked to them about it when I was considering doing a male 50 shades.

I for one would be very interested to hear how exactly that conversation went down.

My imagination tells me it went something like this:

"I wanna do a male version of 50 shades, I know it'll sell bucketloads"


"I'm on this forum on Reddit called the red pill, where you lift weights, spin plates and copiously debunk feminism"

"Spin plates?"

"Yeah, you know, dread game the shit out of women and get tons of pussy whilst sussing the absolute fuck out of the feminine imperative."

"Dread game? Feminine Imperative?"

"You need to read the sidebar."

[–]RPSigmaStigma 1 point2 points  (2 children)

"What does 'do you even lift, bro?' mean?"

[–]RedRumRedSunTRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)


Scientific research suggests no one lifts.

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[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the physical act of making a book? Yes I don't plan on running a printing press

[–]Kalepsis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am willing to associate myself with the book for publishing purposes, under a pseudonymn.

[–]whoops_fap 1 point2 points  (4 children)

To limit this to hardcopy only doesn't make much sense (to me at least). TRP exists largely because of it's online presence. Additionally, a hard copy will not be able to hyperlink to relevant examples, studies, etc. cited within the handbook.

Fellow publisher here, can confirm this makes no sense, apart from protecting it from censorship - which is really only a problem on sites like this that are moderated.

[–]aaadiikaaa 9 points9 points [recovered]

A PDF is just some neck beard ranting online, a hard copy book gives the idea legitimacy in the eye of average Joe.

[–]Goodyjoel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wish I could upvote this more. THIS HAS TO HAPPEN

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thats exactly the point. Real people dont give a fuck about PDFs

[–]bobbybluepill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right. The content will most likely not be censored by any of the online retail channels.

And from a monetary standpoint, you can price the ebooks identically to the printed books and just have all of the money sent to the same entity.

My suggestion is to either a) go all in and publish across all platforms or b) simply make a PDF to distribute and monetize via a hosted shopping cart or via donations through PayPal or something similar.

[–]RosewoodPill 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You do not need a company to be an author. That's insane... do some homework. You can also use a pen name. I have been a published author since 2010.

[–]bobbybluepill 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For tax purposes, a company makes more sense. You can then write off server fees, etc. against your book sale royalties, if everything is umbrellaed beneath the same entity. It would also provide a bunch of other options plus legal protections.

You'd be insane to dismiss a $300 New Mexico LLC with a paid organizer (invisible NM LLC) plus annual registered agent fees and taxes versus an individual having to account for income on their 1040. Just my opinion.

[–]RosewoodPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can write off all of those things as an author too. A company only makes sense to protect yourself from liability or if you're doing it for tax purposes.

A single book doesn't really call for a corporation for tax purposes, because the money is the same amount either way. It's not like we are going to pay ourselves all a salary and keep the company's bank account fat so we don't have to pay income tax on it.

[–]CharlieIndiaShitlord 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Just want to say, right the fuck on!

I will happily buy this, it's the most worthwhile cause I know, and it will directly benefit the future of so many.

[–]Riddick_ 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Someone can wave the Red Pill handbook in front of Dr. Oz's stupid face or mention it on the main stream media. SJW's will try to censor the book, however that will only give it more publicity. There is potential to turn this into a massive unplugging with sweeping cultural implications. - Strategy: I LOVE IT!!!

Before launch. We also need digital editions in PDF, Mobi, EPUB and TXT versions. This should be seeded and released in Torrent format / downloads as well. Txt should include editions, versions # as well and reference to TRP landing base / new www site.

[–]ChadThundercockII 5 points6 points  (0 children)

THIS. This one will be greater than the holy bible of the red pill : The Book of Pook.

[–]RosewoodPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I could do all of this, and get it published worldwide. Physical and Ebook.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 15 points16 points  (0 children)

What do you think of the suggestion as outlined here /u/redpillschool ?

[–]BusinessAsUsual_2015 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I am a graphic designer with experience in book publication. If you guys are looking for a composer/designer for a paperback or hardback product I can certainly help.

Now I must return to lurking and sidebar.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am a graphic designer as well. Welcome to a future of being the most manly and in-shape motherfucker in your entire workplace.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (6 children)

That was fucking beautiful and inspirational, no homo.

Also, all in favor of referring to "Chairman Pao" as "Kung Pao Chicken" henceforth, please say "Aye".


[–]Riddick_ 7 points8 points  (1 child)

+1 for "Chairman Pao" as "Kung Pao Chicken"


[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah, let's make it happen lol.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Aye /u/changetip 100 bits to this man

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Took a while to make that OC, but it was worth it.....i should probably share it with the folks from r/FPH.

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I'm also quite partial to Napaoleon and Vladimir Paotin as additional backup references.

[–]ChangingSZNs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have read the handbook in it's entirety and I can say I learned a lot of valuable lessons from it. Rereading is a must and taking time to look at specific chapters would also be beneficial. A physical copy would be great and very helpful. Also, reading off a phone screen cannot compare to the feeling of reading a book in hand.

Edit: grammar

[–]Thethrowawayoption 5 points5 points [recovered]

I'm generally in favor of this, but seriously that handbook needs many many man hours of editing and rewriting before it's book quality material.

SJW morons aren't the only reason TRP doesn't have wider acceptance. A lot of our best material has piss poor phrasing as well.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There wasn't a motive for polish now there is

[–]FaustoRMD 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree with this. The psychological effect of having a physical copy is underrated. We need to exploit this field, not only doing a compilation of good posts but organizing it in a creative, rational manner.

[–]klott 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't care how much it costs. Make it. I'll buy two.

[–]Riddick_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We can print quality hardcover copies for about $7 a piece on LightnngSource.com. The proceeds will be used to help Red Pill school acquire the necessary infrastructure for the new home of the Red Pill.

Brilliant Idea Brother - Here is the correct name and URL:

LightningSource, www.lightningsource.com

[–]Riddick_ 2 points3 points  (8 children)

I also want to point out:

To be realistic this process of publishing a book may take 1 year plus and we don't have that much time. By the time we get it through to actual sales, may as well be to late.

Open Donations: We need to start working on the alternative TRP platform today, and open donations to get hosting and hit the ground running.

[Edit] - There is no need to go though the "approved" channels of mainstream media (Kindle, iTunes, etc). Sell the book direct from website, and get enough support to get speed with TRP new landing base, new website and forum. Speed is the best strategy.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

We can have the book available for sale within a three to four month period if we focus all of our effort on editing the existing content in the second edition

[–]Master1176 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm a published author and would be happy to help, I am great at polishing and editing too.

[–]bobbybluepill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We could have it up for sale within a month.

[–]IDefyAxioms 0 points1 point  (4 children)

editing the existing content

Do you have any ideas on how you would like to see that done?

The way I see it, there are a couple of options:

  1. A singular person is appointed to the task of editing for grammar & such. Slower, but if done by the right person can produce excellent results

  2. A team of people, selectively chosen (by RP knowledge & history, also those with experience in editing or write well).

  3. Open it up to anyone who wants to work on it.

Personally, I'm partial to #2. Probably the best balance of time and skill, given the amazing pool of talent that the sub offers. I can strip the handbook down to just the text and toss it up on Google Docs in 2 minutes. Also, Google Docs offers the ability to talk (well, write) and confer with one another while editing.

Personally, I'm not an author or someone with publishing history. Just a strong desire to make this happen, great grasp of language, and am adept at learning new tools (i.e. InDesign).

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Its going to be number two. Unless RPS and the other big names step up soon im going to have to organize this extravaganza. As for people like you I will have to manually screen you Via skype.

The first step is making a reddit for this. Figuring out who is going to be involved. Then an organizational chart. Then make then wiki. Then collect money. Then print. Then ship. Then deal with tax and legal issues.

Not exactly in that order. Some processes will ovetlap

[–]let_terror_reign 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'm a hardcore grammar nazi. I want to sign up.
Do I need to do a physical

[–]Riddick_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed - Wiki & Team Work we can blast through it.

Next point, Finacing: We don't have to wait until the book starts selling to raise funds. We can start raising funds Today! How? Independent CrowFunding!

Start Financing Project Today: CrowdFunding TheRedPill Project and CounterParty Finance, Red Pill Shares concept as Reddit Gold

  1. IndieGoGo and Kickstarter CrowdFunding: We can crowdfund this and reserve copies in advance for the contributors, those that support The Red Pill Handbook Project. % of funds available immediately used to purchase infrastructure / bandwidth, domain registration for the new TRP project. Funds acquired through crowd funding should be controlled by the current mods. There are various CrowFunding options available, where we can set a goal and reach it. Indiegogo or Kickstarter.

  2. Independent CounterParty Financing - Red Pill Shares Concept: Using a CounterParty crowd funding platform to release Red Pill Shares and fund The Red Pill Handbook Project, the new TRP website / forum / landing base, hosting etc. Shares can be purchased anonymously and may be traded for value at a later date. Similar to Stock Options. This can be done immediately.

This can be done similar way to a public IPO generated on a CounterParty platform where a number of limited shares are released on schedule. I can cover more on the technical if need be - I know how we can implement this and release the Red Pill Shares. This can be done in one week once the important decisions are made. No need for legal, bank involvement, no approvals etc... All based on existing Open Source.

Details - Investopedia: Counterparty Finacing Concept

Red Pill Shares as Reddit Gold, Concept:

Red Pill Shares maybe awarded like Reddit Gold is to the top TRP posters, and people that generate new quality material for TRP. This will motivate people to write better material that will make for Vol 2. & 3 and make possible further editions.

Red Pill Shares may grow in value over time as more quality content is generated. The TRP community would be able to purchase and trade RedPillShares using an independent platform.

In addition to this TRP can release / distribute "shares" to all that support the project, that contributed to the project, and send "Red Pill Shares" to those that contributed material to the book.

This concept Red Pill Shares can also be executed at a later date, after the book launch when TRP becomes stronger and expands as a content generation platform.

Red Pill Shares as Source of Income for Advertising:

In turn, reserve funds generated, and appreciated share value can be used to purchase advertising in manosphere, podcasts, youtube channels, satellite and internet radio shows. Internet Advertising, Banners, Web Adds etc... Part of the funds raised in the initial campaign maybe reserved for advertising.

Red Pill Shares and The Red Pill Foundation:

Over time Red Pill Shares can provide funding for The Red Pill Foundation, non-profit, a legal registered charity, incorporated in a tax heaven like Netherlands, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Isle of Man, Bermuda, Bahamas, etc that can provide tax receipts for donations from businesses in the US, Canada and EU. The Funds derived from Red Pill Shares sales, and Charitable Donations, Sales of Books, may be used in part for advertising, and further development of Red Pill Projects and Content, Hosting (books, videos, podcasts, etc).

-> Ok, I understand this maybe a lot to digest. Take it as you may.

Investopedia Details: Counterparty Finacing Concept


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[edit] - formatting, spelling, The Red Pill Foundation txt added

[–]Riddick_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Release the book / text under Creative Commons license.

What is a Creative Commons license?

Creative Commons (CC) license is one of several public copyright licenses that enable the free distribution of an otherwise copyrighted work. -> For more info: https://creativecommons.org/about

Creative Commons. This part is important. Why? Read on

Creative Commons License - This type of license allows free distribution as long as the original contents are not modified. This License protects the contents of the book legally, and protects the integrity of the text. Retains the intellectual and publishing rights to TRP, and at the same time releases the distribution rights.

This is similar to what Cory Doctorow has done with his books. This way you can buy it from a store, website, or legally download it for free. Creative Commons Legal text is already done. You are unlikely / less likely to get sued under this. Distribution rights are released under CC license, so anyone can print and distribute the book as they see fit (download, digital format, torrent, etc)

At the end of the book: We should add that this is a fiction work where none of the characters have any resemblance IRL. This way, if it ever comes to going to court it will be thrown out on the basis that this is fiction. Easy to flex in court by any lawyer w skills. Again, I'm no legal expert, just a suggestion.

Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License

[–]1REDPILLRECKONING 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're an absolute genius. A crowdsourced, refined and polished book. A pdf., an amazon hard copy, a kindle version. The subreddit would become eternal in a way they could never stop. We would have an actual origin text. It's how all religions survive through generations.


I implore the staffers to sticky this post so that we get to work on it and produce something as important as the book of pook for future generations. If redpill is going to get shut down in time, we need to create something immortal before it gets snuffed out.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Reddit voting system is rigged, its not that good.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Plus it's international.. And the people wasting time on Internet forums are never the pretty people.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How are we gonna organize it? We can't just lead an actual book with the best content and slowly get worse and we can't lead with the worst. We also have to deal with the individual links in the post and even the comments. But you are right, the book needs to exist.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking from experience, getting a good editor "find a struggling copy editor student or grad" and a good person for layout, make it print ready by margin, and use print on demand with proceeds going towards further editing and polishing editions.

Serious issue is getting the permission from the large pool of writers to release this content, in that case you can at least get the PDF binder print ready.

[–]potatoseven 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also include a physical Book of Pook as well?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Are there any copyright issues with this? Copyright may belong with either the original author, or with reddit (depends on reddit's Ts&Cs).

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

We good.your content

17 You retain the rights to your copyrighted content or information that you submit to reddit ("user content") except as described below.

18 By submitting user content to reddit, you grant us a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, unrestricted, worldwide license to reproduce, prepare derivative works, distribute copies, perform, or publicly display your user content in any medium and for any purpose, including commercial purposes, and to authorize others to do so.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ok cool, so Reddit won't be a problem.

This still might be a future issue though - all the people who wrote the various snippets own the copyright on them. Selling a book based on them might cause issues, unless you've got disclaimers or fully trust everyone who wrote the various bits and pieces.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the problem. Some of the bigger writers like IllimitableMan are allready in board but im going to have to have a guy dedicated to to this task

[–]Trpbrother 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This reads to me that either we need permission from the original authors, or from reddit.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reddit doesnt own the content I posted the TOS

[–]esoderstrom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will be buying the shit out of this. I actually got chills by how much this community is willing to do to keep trp from dying by this political bs

[–]kekmaster20 1 point2 points  (1 child)

We need this in other languages too.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dont make this harder then it allready is lol

[–]absolucion 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Would reworking some of the material in the TRP Handbook be part of that process? I've read it a couple of times and while it was a pleasant read, I found myself skipping some of the comments due to formatting.

[–]trpdownunder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the handbook needs a lot of formatting work. You want to integrate all the comments and the gist of the better hyperlinks into the thing without it looking like my HSC exam notes. This will take time and effort. However I think we have the resources on here to actually do that. I just want to make sure a section on black knighting is included. Let's turn it into an instrument of cultural change.

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[–]JanLul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, there is. Look at the sidebar and sign up for the mailing list. You can even retain your current Reddit username.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

GLO, I hope when the project has begun you will revise the content.

It's great but maybe one could add a few post, a few comments...make it even better if possible.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Honestly I don't know how PDFs don't get read. They're easily readable. I'm using okular to read them and I found out by accident with a novel if I shut it down at random it remembers each page I left off on for each PDF file. Does Adobe reader do that? I wouldn't know because I don't use it but that's handy. I guess a manual bookmark would do it too but it's so handy.

[–]wickedwildewolf 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Most PDF and ebook reader software does that.

But there are better formats, such as epub.

[–]SonicTRP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Men, it's time to unplug the masses.

[–]TheRepressedTruth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this handbook primarily PUA and Manophere under the label of red pill (most of this reddit) or is it really about how the world and people actually work?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

uhm... mens rights has about 100k subscribers, and trp has about 100k. feminism only has 50k subscribers.

i think we outnumber them by quite a bit, and it's obvious why. see this finally gaining traction http://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means#.csJvQpxkx

[–]n627 -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

OP sounds like red pill is gonna be shut down.

[–]Solomonceed 4 points5 points  (3 children)

It's going to happen. Not today or tomorrow, but eventually. Let's be smart and plan ahead.

[–]n627 0 points1 point  (2 children)

For what reason I don't get it. Seriously.

[–]Solomonceed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude, have you been living under a rock? Reddit has banned several subreddits in the past few days, claiming their users "harass" people. TRP is easily the most hated subreddit on this site, we're bound to be next.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for this reason: the purpose of Reddit (now), SJWs and other such nonsense is to


The world is run by people whose sole purpose is to crush your face and dreams.

Not by accident but with glee and murder.

[–]Deresetese -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

We don't need it, we are fine without a physical copy of anything.
We get exposure anyway, and we aren't at war with anybody.
It's a cool idea, but highly idealistic which is not supposed to be here. The handbook is available for us anyway, and we have far more recources than a very limited handbook anyway.
If you want a book, fine. But keep in mind that it is in no way necessary or helpful to print a book.