Men's RightsBillionaire paid $100k/month in child support for child that wasn't his after a one month marriage. Wife wanted $320k/month. (self.TheRedPill)

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Billionaire mogul Kirk Kerkorian died recently and his obituary in the NY Times (1) had a small paragraph about his third wife fighting to get $320k/month in child support after being married to him for one month. The kicker is that the kid wasn't even his and the rest of the story is even stranger than fiction.

A story you can't make up

After reading his obituary, I started searching for more info on Kerkorian and his ex-wife Lisa Bonder, a former professional tennis player. The two of them were married for 28 days in 1999.

In 2002, Bonder went to court seeking $320,000 a month in child support after faking a DNA test for the child using the saliva of Kerkorian's older daughter. Kerkorian was eventually able to get DNA proof that the child wasn't his when his attorney hired Anthony Pellicano, a PI, who illegally tapped Bonder's phone. (2) The father of the child is Steve Bing, the same guy who impregnated Elizabeth Hurley but denied it until a paternity test proved the child was his. Kerkorian ended up paying $100,000 a month in child support, supposedly the largest child support award ever at the time. (3)

In 2003, Bing, the real father, agreed to pay $25,000 a month in support on top of Kerkorian's support but allegedly never paid. (4)

Around 2007, Kerkorian tries to get Bing involved in the girl's life. (4)

In 2010, the billionaire agreed to pay $10 million in back child support (read: blackmail) in addition to the ongoing $100k in exchange for her dropping the civil case related to the Pellicano wiretapping. When the child turns 19, the amount will be reduced to $50,000 a month. (3)

In 2013, Kerkorian's ex wife petitioned the court with her son (who is not Kerkorian's son) to be appointed as his conservator, claiming that he was being held hostage. Kerkorian's attorneys claimed it was a ploy to pressure him into paying $500,0000 a month in child support. His ex and her son abruptly dropped the case later that year. (5)

Also of note, Bonder is receiving $4,000 in child support from another ex-husband, Michael Gluckman. As of 2014, Gluckman was suing for full custody of their two children. (6)

Lesson(s) learned: Take your pick... AWALT, don't get married, get a paternity test, can't turn a ho into a housewife, the system is broken

(1) Kirk Kerkorian, Billionaire Investor in Film Studios and Casinos, Dies at 98

(2) Excerpts and Audio: The Pellicano Case

(3) Kirk Kerkorian settles back child support case

(4) Billionaire takes new legal tack regarding child

(5) Kirk Kerkorian ex-wife, stepson drop move for conservatorship

(6) Kerkorian ex moves on to new rich love

[–]larrythetomato 187 points188 points  (77 children)

100k/month... That is one $3000 prostitute every day, or alternatively 3000 $1 dollar prostitutes.

[–]BlackHeart89 128 points129 points  (71 children)

Jesus Christ. A billionaire who gets married? Wtf for man?! Why the fuck?! You're a billionaire for christs sakes. The only reason she would leave is if you married her. Goddamnit...

EDIT: spelling

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther 18 points19 points  (4 children)

One just got married this past week. It happens a lot. Billionaire does not a red piller make.

[–]BlackHeart89 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I thought it would have come naturally with age and money. Even my BP self knew marriage was pretty iffy.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I thought it would have come naturally with age and money.

I tend to think the opposite happens. I think red pill comes with a bit of duress. If you have your life laid out for you on a silver platter, you get to be beta.

Take Conrad Hilton for instance. Insanely wealthy... I see him as a complete pussified blue piller. I would only hang around him to catch the hundreds dropping out of his pockets. I think his sister is more Alpha than he is.

Now, if you mean acquiring money... it depends on when. If you get it too early, you probably didn't learn to earn it. That means you might not have gotten to BP stage yet. You mentioned "age".

But just because you have age, doesn't mean you "earned" that money. You could have lucked into it.

Then, last but not least... those that have adopted a RP mentality, without knowing it, to get rich... may give it all away, because they still have latent BP tendencies from their upbringing and friends, that "getting married" is the path that everyone has to go down.

So, yeah, I think BP/RP may actually transcend most things in life. Hard core, down to the bone indoctrination.

[–]Easih 0 points1 point  (0 children)

child support will get you whether you are married or not so its not an issue in case like this.

[–]colucci 32 points33 points  (60 children)

If you're upper class, it's kinda frowned upon to be a bachelor late in your life.

Not saying it justifies getting married. But people generally look at you weird if you're single.

[–]FuckYouIAmDrunk[🍰] 146 points147 points  (20 children)

People will also look at me weird if I have a billion dollars. Fuck em.

[–]colucci 14 points15 points  (19 children)

If you have a billion dollars, it's likely you have more social tact than to just discard what people think about you.

When you're higher up, connections and relationships are vital.

[–]1james-watson 96 points97 points  (18 children)

Chief, I don't think you quite grasp the concept of being a billionaire. There is no such thing as a "vital" need to a billionaire. EVERYTHING can be bought with that amount of wealth. Power, women, fame, friends, religions, countries, ideologies...and anything else you can imagine.

A better statement is, connections and relationships are vital to BECOMING a billionaire.

Once you're there, the only thing that's vital is your black Amex.

[–]RemyPrice 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I genuinely liked how you called him Chief right before shitting on his skewed worldview.

[–]Jigsus -1 points0 points  (10 children)

Wow you have absolutely no idea how difficult it is to manage wealth of that size. When you have that net worth it doesn't mean you have a bank account with three commas in it. It means the total value of your assets and investments is 1 billion and you live off dividends. It's a castle on pillars of sand. If you piss off your social circle they can ruin you because they are other bilionares and your wealth usually depends on them.

Remember Trading Places? It was a pretty accurate description of rich people "society".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Only everything he said still applies. You can hire people to manage your money and pay them six-figures off what amounts to rounding errors.

[–]vooy 1 points1 points [recovered]

No you can't and people who say this don't understand the demands of managing wealth. The type of employer-employee relationship you describe almost invariably ends in exploitation. The staff begin to perform questionable deals, withdrawal funds, pose as relatives, and eat away at the fortune.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Who said anything about an employer-employee relationship? Its a professional-client relationship. One that carries fiduciary duties, which if breached would result in a lawsuit.

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[–]thredditsowaway 23 points24 points  (1 child)

I would wonder if the stigma against bachelors is just another part of BP culture, trying to get successful men to become providers.

[–]colucci 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's more about lineage and tradition than fucking bitches and providing.

Cheating in the upper class is not necessarily the norm, but it's definitely not a dealbreaker in most upper class couples. Lineage, tradition and stability are valued far more than fidelity.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Fuck that shit. I'd be doing what this guy does and fuck you if you have an opinion about it!

[–]the_seducer 9 points9 points [recovered]

Tell that to Dan Bilzarien

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Uh who GAF what society thinks. Youre a billionaire. The definition of success.

[–]AlphaJesus -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

The definition of success according to whom? You or society? And if you say you, how much of you is influenced by society?

Chew on that a bit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'd say the majority of people will consider a billionaire successful. Anyone who values capitalism, consumption, consumerism, hedonism, sloth, addiction, power, influence, etc will as envy that person.

[–]AlphaJesus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'd say you're right. I was just challenging you to critically consider how much of you is really you.

Like wolf pups playing at birth not realizing that one day those fun games will be what they use to live in the wild.

RP is all about cultivating our masculinity. The masculine modus operandi is logical while our feminine counter part is emotional.

tl;dr Humans are rational. Men are rational logically. Women are rational emotionally. Be logical.

[–]trplurker 9 points9 points [recovered]

The guys here don't understand this, they just see "a bazillion dollars!!!" and freak out without understanding how that's made and managed. And your correct, bachelors aren't taken seriously in high status business arrangements, which is how you make that kind of dough to begin with.

Of course being a divorcee or widower is considered perfectly fine. Usually the question is settled during small talk by a joke referencing the "ex-wife" which instantly puts all the other men in the group at ease about the guy being "one of them". So there was no reason for him to get married a second or third time.

[–]Jigsus 2 points3 points  (5 children)

I wonder if you can lie about being divorced.

[–]trplurker -3 points-3 points [recovered]

Might be dangerous, that group is notorious for being able to ferret out information if they remotely suspect something is off. This is probably the most insular social group in the world, it's how they stayed rich and ahead of everyone else for so long.

[–]Jigsus 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It's insane that something so trivial would be so damning in a certain social group.

[–]trplurker 7 points7 points [recovered]

It's not trivial to them because it's how they protect their assets from government theft. Assets in an individuals name can easily be seized or frozen and are easily taxed. Assets in a family trust, with the man as the executive agent, are much harder to get to. These wealthy families protect all their assets by locking them into trusts and various non-personal entities that act as a form of insulation between the individual patriarch / matriarch and the government. Government have been looking to seize the assets of mega wealthy for over a thousand years, and the wealthy have evolved various practices to combat this.

So before they make any sort of long term, mutually beneficial partnership with you, they need to first make damn sure your reading from the same playbook as they are.

[–]Jigsus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But how does divorce figure into the equation?

[–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I don't understand. Why not just bow out? Surely its cheaper than losing a billion dollars.

[–]trplurker 1 points1 points [recovered]

Surely its cheaper than losing a billion dollars.

Only if you think money is static, which it isn't.

Connections are used to make that money, once it's made you need to maintain it otherwise operating expenses and losses will eat you alive. Having a certain persona is required in order to be accepted into those groups where you can find and build those connections.

[–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah. As I'm reading through the comments, I'm understanding it better. Basically, the dude doesn't have several billion just sitting in the bank. All of his assets are worth that much.

Also, a few people are posting that its a power thing, rather than money.

[–]1nzgs[🍰] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Bachelor's aren't taken seriously?? Ahahaha what the full is wrong with some of you? The mega rich invariably own multiple companies and are accountable to no one. Plenty of them are single, plenty!

[–]trplurker 4 points4 points [recovered]

Umm stop watching TV shows for one.

You get wealthy by making financial connections and deals that benefit you in the long run. In order to make those connections you need to first rub elbows with a very insular group of ridiculously powerful men. We're talking old money here, not the rich tech startup / VC folks. One of the requirements before anything you say or do is taken seriously is to be a "family man", meaning your buying into their tradition of locking their money into their families and thus making it untouchable by the government.

This isn't about RP / BP, Alpha status or providership, not even about love, lust or anything else, it's about power and politics, which are the exact same thing. It doesn't matter what she looks like or if you even like her, as long as she can handle being socially connected to extremely wealthy and entitled women, then she's able to do the job. Faithfulness isn't even required, these men have lots of extramarital affairs and often their wives are too, but it's all kept hidden and out of sight, well most of the time. The marriages are about keeping money inside the family and for establishing political connections with other powerful families.

For an example of this, just look at the marriage of William Jefferson Blythe III and Hillary Rodham Clinton. Does anyone here actually think that was anything other then a marriage of convenience that enabled both parties access to more political resources.

[–]BlackHeart89 4 points5 points  (3 children)


Thats crazy. I can't compete with that level of desire. Its ironic if you think about it. In order to gain so much power and maintain, they have to be a slave to one another. They can have that shit. Just give me a few million and I'll peace the fuck out.

[–]trplurker 4 points4 points [recovered]

They can have that shit. Just give me a few million and I'll peace the fuck out.

It's perfectly fine to think this way, it's what separates those who have that kind of wealth and those who don't. Getting that kind of wealth isn't easy and keeping it is even harder. Personally I don't desire to expend the amount of my most precious resource, time, in order to achieve that level of success, some men do. I will never begrudge or short a man who accurately defines his goals and pursues them relentlessly.

[–]BlackHeart89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will never begrudge or short a man who accurately defines his goals and pursues them relentlessly.

True. Gotta respect it. I wonder if its another form of addiction. Like a workaholic or something. I guess it doesn't matter at the end of the day. But goddamn...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're dropping absolute gold in this thread and the proles are downvoting you, LMAO

Even people who think they're Red Pill can't handle the Red Pill you just made them swallow

[–]2niczar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If I had a billion dollars, you could frown upon me as much as you wanted and I would still not give a fuck.

[–]1laserdicks -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Then my billion dollars would last longer.

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[–]1laserdicks -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It does if you want them to invest in your fourth attempt at a start-up. Money goes away if you spend it remember.

[–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats a hefty price to pay just to get someone's approval. I'd just hang out with the commoners. Or hell. Even pay someone to pretend to be my wife.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You would at least think he'd have the best attorneys draw up the best prenuptial possible.

[–]Easih 0 points1 point  (0 children)

prenup can be thrown out at judge discretion for any reason; having the best lawyer wont save you.

[–]Kaitohi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's a win for him if he finds out she only cares about his money. She's out of his life and he doesn't give a fuck about the money he loses. It's nothing for him.

[–]BlackHeart89 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its a risk that is 100% unnecessary though. The risk only comes once he marries her. As a billionaire, she wasn't going to leave unless she could guarantee she would still get a big chunk of money. Him marrying her was essentially him paying a few billion for one bitch.

I don't care how big your money is. Losing a billion dollars for some pussy (1 woman at that) is outfuckingrageous.

[–]cascadecombo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People crave companionship.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If you can pay $100k a month, you can definitely afford to put a clean hit on her.

[–]1aguy01 114 points115 points  (4 children)

To me the craziest thing is that she doesn't go to jail for forging the paternity test. Someone needs to put her in the ground.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 76 points77 points  (2 children)

To me the craziest thing is that she doesn't go to jail for forging the paternity test.

They never do. Therefore there's no downside to at least try to fuck a man over.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well the downside is the destruction of society. It just won't be noticed or cared about until it's too late.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 36 points37 points  (0 children)

It's fraud, plan and simple. Lying for financial gain. It's well defined. But it is not enforced against women. Think of the children!

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 76 points77 points  (11 children)

100k is more than enough money to resolve the problem through unofficial channels.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 42 points43 points  (5 children)

Read the "Excerpts and Audio" link. She was talking about having him killed.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (4 children)

but no punishment for her right? now if HE said it, conspiracy to commit murder, ect. ect.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 21 points22 points  (3 children)

they can't punish her because the info was learned from an illegal wiretap. Not that she would have been punished anyway, she was just venting.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

of course if he did it, he's fucking Dr Claw

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Fruit of a poison tree only applies to cops and other government agents. The only possible thing I can think of is that a P.I. is somehow considered a quasi-government agent. Private citizens aren't bound by that.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The PI couldn't turn it over to the cops without outing himself for illegal activities.

As it turns out, the PI and the lawyer went to jail for illegal wiretaps anyway. It was a huge Hollywood scandal.

[–]doritoesNcoffee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Death solves all problems - no man, no problem.

Joseph Stalin

[–]ioncloud9 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh im sure there are ways to make this happen while looking like an accident.

[–]mkopec 53 points54 points  (25 children)

Whats even more frightening is how one of your ex girlfriends, or just some chick you met can claim youre the father of some kid because she puts your name on the birth certificate. And the state will go after your ass to pay child support. DNA that shit up!

[–]Tom_The_Human 34 points35 points  (6 children)

"18 years, 18 years, she got one of yo kids, got you for 18 years"

Thing is, why was he still paying child support when "his" kid was 19?

[–]StManTiS 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Because its easier to sympathize with a mother than a father...regardless of the facts

[–]kanji_sasahara 5 points6 points  (3 children)

And Kanye gets married anyway.

[–]exuals 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Kim has equal if not higher net worth I'm betting.

[–]fckredditt 3 points4 points  (1 child)

yea fucking right. do you think kim kardashian is beyonce or some shit? there is no way she makes that much money.

[–]ComradeCynic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You need to do some research. She is/was making up to $40million a year for the Kardashian game app (don't remember the name of it), in addition to whatever other money she is earning.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why was he still paying child support when "his" kid was 19?

It can last longer than 18 years in certain circumstances. One of them, I believe, is college. I once heard a woman brag that her son would attend the local university - not for his own good, mind you, but so that the ex will keep having to pay.

[–]trplurker 10 points10 points [recovered]

Not quite true. Her putting someone's name doesn't doesn't automatically make them the legal father. She will need to sue for paternity and he'll get notified and have a chance to refute it.

What usually happens is right after the birth of the child there is piece of paper slipped into the hospitals paperwork stack they present the alleged "father". That paper is an acknowledgement of paternity and is usually sandwiched between some other forms with nothing but a "sign here" tag pointing to the spot. Unless the guy is well informed he'll just sign it without even knowing that he just forfeited a huge legal right. Some hospitals won't let the alleged father see the newborn until after he signs that piece of paper, so it gets signed while the guy is in an emotional state and not thinking long term.

Lesson here is don't sign a damn thing regardless of what anyone says until you've spoken with a lawyer and had a paternity test.

[–]TheManshack 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Not quite true either. In some states, if you're married, a signature isn't even required.

EDIT: Added "if you're married" after the below comment pointed out my mistake.

[–]trplurker 7 points7 points [recovered]

In some states, a signature isn't even required.

If your not married, you can not be the presumed father of any child. This is a matter of law and while each state individually has it's own procedures, none of them are automatic on the world of mother only. Otherwise you'd be seeing women claim Bill Gates and other rich famous people as the father of their children.

Stop spreading urban legends. Women do not automatically win everything and while the family court system is biased as all hell, there are still concrete rules in regards to the legal father of a child.

[–]TheManshack 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The "if you're married" is the problem. Sorry I should have added that to my previous statement, will go back and edit it.


[–]darksoldierk -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Wait, what do you mean by "if you are married?". So if I get a paternity test shorty after she has the baby, and the test proves that I am not the father, the law forces me to be the father just because we're married? that would mean that if I want to divorce her because she cheated, I'll still be liable for child support? is that right?

[–]trplurker 2 points2 points [recovered]

So if I get a paternity test shorty after she has the baby, and the test proves that I am not the father, the law forces me to be the father just because we're married?

Yes. It's left over from English common law. All children conceived while a women is in a lawful wedding are presumed to be from her lawful husband. If you were to separate she would still be awarded child support. If you were separated and she had a boyfriend shacking up with her, she could still sue, and win, child support.

That being said, there is still something that can be done but it requires the man know the paperwork and have a knowledgeable lawyer. The man must file legal paperwork that says he refutes paternity for the children and must list the reason he believe so. There is a very short window here, from the time of birth / notification, for the name to file and dispute her claim to paternity. Most states are between six months and two years, after that the state considers that the man acknowledges his paternity claim on the child and "He welcomed the child into his home after birth and openly holds the child out as his own."


This is why men are always losing, they think they can handle everything on a whim and never do any fucking research or arm themselves accordingly. Knowledge is power, probably the strongest form of power in existence, and the invention of the internet allows men to absorb and unprecedented amount of knowledge. Yet you fuckers still fail to do research and arm yourself mentally. No wonder women walk all over you.

[–]darksoldierk -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

That article you linked actually makes it very clear how men are forced to sign the paternity statement. The sentence reads: "If a father refuses to voluntarily sign a paternity statement the state will usually go to court to establish that he is the father and collect child support, regardless of whether the mother wishes it or not."

The article also states that "if you are not the father, or if you are not sure, you should not sign an acknowledgment of paternity.". Based on my understanding, that means that if you are not sure and therefore refuse to sign the statement, the state will take you to court and attempt to prove to you that you are the father. If the state of being unsure is disputed, and you are proven to be the father, you will be forced to pay child support by the state even if the mother does not want you to pay child support. So essentially this means "sign the piece of paper, or the state will force you to go through lengthy and expensive legal trials. If you are wrong, the state will then force you to pay child support".

One thing I find interesting is that the article never uses the term "biological father", but rather, just "father". That makes it a little unclear. For example, is a common law partner considered a father? would the state simply have to prove that the couple is in a common law relationship to prove that a man is the father?

Men don't read into it because it is too complicated. This is something that lawyers need to read through, because only they will understand exactly what the law states. Except lawyers are biased. They just want to make money, they could care less about you. The only thing that men need to know is that the state sees them as financial slaves. As a man, you don't have anyone to help you in a situation where you don't believe that you are the biological father. The deck is stacked against you. No matter what argument you make, no matter what you do, you WILL be FORCED to pay a portion of all of your income to the woman that you fucked because the state acknowledges that women are incapable of supporting themselves and the state does not want the responsibility of supporting women.

[–]fckredditt -1 points0 points  (6 children)

in california, a woman just needs to put a man's name on the paperwork then the ONUS IS ON HIM to prove he's not the father and it has to be done within 30 days of being served. i am not fucking kidding. a woman could literally look on facebook and serve anyone and if he's a bumbling fool about the court system, he might miss the 30 days deadline.


click on pub 244.

[–]trplurker 2 points2 points [recovered]

It's still not automatic, he needs to be served and has an opportunity to refute it.

And it's more like two or three months time frame, but that's a different legal procedure. Do not confuse the time frame an organization is willing to accept a dispute with the time frame a court will use to accept that same dispute.

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[–]trplurker 2 points2 points [recovered]

Wow so muscular and alpha there keyboard warrior. Gotta keep up the tough talk....

[–]ModRedSovereign[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No flame-baiting. Only warning.

[–]Jigsus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She faked the first DNA test.

[–]PeteMullersKeyboard 39 points40 points  (6 children)

Not a day goes by that I don't feel less & less inclined to marry and especially less inclined to have kids...ever. The thought of either is repulsive to me at this point. Largely because of shit like this, but also due to the general insanity of most women I'm attracted to. I'd rather keep that shit at arm's length, thanks.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Same here I attract girls I shouldn't give them my address...

[–]PeteMullersKeyboard 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I'm waiting for the day when an ex-fuck finds me and attempts to kill me in my sleep. At this rate, shouldn't be too much longer.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You're about .9999999 billion shy of having that problem

[–]PeteMullersKeyboard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hah. Most likely. There was one I was worried about once...

[–]NidStyles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is why I never bring them to my place. I have this lusty desire for the DTs.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (9 children)

Considering that we live in this patriarchal land of oppressing innocent womyn, you'd think there'd at least be some sort of cap on child support payments.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 28 points29 points  (7 children)

you'd think there'd at least be some sort of cap on child support payments.

And stop the easiest, most accepted version of wealth transfer? Not a chance.

[–]mkopec 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Well its going to stop at some point, when more and more men realize this and just flat out stop marrying and having kids. The truth is trickling out to the masses, movements are starting and the downfall of the west as morals and values has been slowly happening since the 60s and 70s.

But the true culprits are the divorce lawyers and family judges. They are the ones really making out in the divorce industry.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

I'm not so sure. Most males are being raised to accept that they should pander to women that they think it's just normal.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Most males are being raised to accept that they should pander to women

Yes... but implicit in that deal is ".... because women are weak and you'll get a loving sexy wife forever more". When men realise their end of the deal is "... and then you get shafted", everything is changed.

If you tell men "you have to do this because we tell you to and you'll get shafted along the way", we see it as a fight and we start to fight back.

Marriage is down and it seems to be men putting the brakes on it - and I can totally fucking see why. It was turned into a sucky deal, and we're not playing ball with that shit anymore.

Eventually men will get better rights as an incentive to have children, because nothing else will work. DNA tests, Vasalgel, and a very strong "fuck you" attitude will gradually work in men's favour. Eventually. I give it another generation.

[–]StManTiS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes temporary infertility like vasagel will work wonders for men's power in the reproductive rights department.

[–]skoobled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MAN UP. Shame culture is powerful

[–]ioncloud9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

remember, child support is what you owe regardless of what you make. Except if you are a billionaire. Then it magically skyrockets.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (5 children)

There should be a database with alimony receivers so that you can filter them out.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 13 points14 points  (4 children)

that would be pretty easy and since divorce records are public it should be legal, but I bet the person who did it would get sued into oblivion

[–]RemyPrice 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Sued for making an easily searchable database of public records?

I don't follow this logic.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If there is a will there is a way. And a lawyer.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Are you from the US? You can find a reason to sue anyone.

Case in point, my original post. Even after a judge granted her $100,000 a month in child support, she kept taking him back to court over and over for more money.

If lawyers see a payday, they'll file a lawsuit.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

On another note, I work 60 hours a week and manage my investments and real estate and I make just over $130K/yr from all of that. This woman gets $100K a month, and complains about it, just because she rode some billionaire dick a few times and cuckolded him.

Must be nice to have a golden pussy...

[–]Stopher 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Don't foget. She did that job for 1 month and retired. Can we star adding the women who made a few billion in one month into that 70% figure. How about we factor all the divorce transfers into the number.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bet it was the hardest job on earth, why should a woman ever be put in that position. I bet she even had to spend his money on everything! How dare that billionaire force her to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made! /s

[–]doublereignbeau 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yeah. If he had that much money, he should just bury her in litigation for random shit for the rest of her life. Easy way to get her off his back.

[–]Trisha_Hill 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The judge is the real criminal

[–]BlackHeart89 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Honestly, she would have never made it to see the child grow up. I'm a goddamn billionaire.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's like that woman who divorced her Russian billionaire husband,tried to take half his shit and the kids.

I've heard nothing about it since. I like to think she's dead

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

never mind. just googled it. she was awarded 4.8 billion dollars

[–]BlackHeart89 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just died a little inside...

[–]EatSleepFightRepeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no way I am going to marry, man. No way.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Damn, I know $100k is chump change to him, and he's probably not a nice bloke, but it's not right, he shouldn't have to pay at all.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For $100K a month she better have a magical vagina that shoots rainbows and cause you to orgasm for 12 hours. Even then it still wouldn't be worth it.

[–]VayneWolf 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would never be able to make this mistake because I would kill her myself and serve any sentence they throw at me. It's ridiculous that people like this piece of dogshit woman exist, and they wouldn't for very long if they were stupid enough to pull this shit on a non beta bux

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Does he not have the kind of money that could make people "disappear"?

[–]1CowardlyPetrov 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Of course he did, but the truth is that feminists are wrong. Men are not inherently violent, murderous, and rapacious. Even with the power to do so, most men in our society would not wantonly hurt others.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i'm not an inherently violent, but 1.2m a year for a kid that isn't even mine... shit.

[–]ioncloud9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh look, a useless piece of a shit with a vagina milking the system for all its worth.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (8 children)

100K a month to raise a child? That's enough to support a family of 6 in most places

[–]t0mbstone 11 points12 points  (2 children)

100K a year is enough to raise a middle class family of six.

With 100K a month, you could raise a family of 50.

[–]doritoesNcoffee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that's 2k a person for month. you can raise 200 people for 100k a month in 3rd world countries.

[–]NeverPull0ut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In most places? I can't imagine $1.2 million per year not supporting a family of 6 anywhere

[–]agmatine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

$100k/year is enough to support a family of 6...

[–]RemyPrice 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Where the fuck do you live? A private island full of expensive hookers?

[–]rainbowhotpocket 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Sad, however $100k a month to a billionare is the equivalent of about $30 a month to a (still top 1%) man making 100k a year. To this guy, it's pocket change. Doesn't change the fact that he should've tried to solve it through less legal means however it's probably not worth his time and legal fees worrying about it. Set it to auto pay and forget about it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And of course she knew this. She knew it wasn't shit to him, so the million dollars a year for what should be NOTHING was not faiiiirrr to her and she had to get more.

[–]alpha_buffalo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's a bit different. It's about scale. $320k a month affords her access to circles and likely places that he could be or people who he could know. $320k a month would make you a millionaire. Billionaires do associate with millionaires.

[–]One_friendship_plz 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You can not escape the AF/BB by having money & status, no amount of money will let you escape the cuckoldry.

Be attractive, or don't commit.

[–]Rougepellet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Broken system, nerf this shit please.

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[–]1independentmale 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Depends on the state, but yes, this is a thing. Some states also force you to pay for college. I don't know how this is legal... The kid is a fucking adult and I still have to pay? What the fuck?

[–]rp_divorced[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Mississippi you have to pay child support until the child is 21. Absurd.

[–]Shanguerrilla 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've got to be honest.. I got distracted thinking that this guy wasn't just near, but impregnated Elizabeth Hurley in her prime.. an attractive professional athlete courting billionaires... I should be reading this guys blog.... Good post OP.

[–]prodigy2throw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We should be talking more about him instead of a dead billionaire cuck. I'd imagine we can learn a lot from this man.

[–]throwitofftheboat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This is not the men's rights sub. Posts ought to be about something a red piller can utilize on a pragmatic level. Blue pill examples are one thing but I believe rage bait should be scarcely, if at all, posted here.

[–]kanji_sasahara 2 points3 points  (0 children)

High profile examples of AWALT are still occasionally useful and interesting.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

then petition to have the 'Mens Rights' flair option removed instead of just complaining

[–]doritoesNcoffee 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Holy shit. This guy (besides 3 failed marriages) should be taken as an example. He was the best in anything he does. Started working since the age of 9, amateur boxing champion, became a pilot, saved up money, started his own business, expanded.

[–]One_friendship_plz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But he wasn't attractive.

Be attractive, or don't commit. Can't be the AF if you're not in shape & attractive, so he was thrown into the BB role while another male had to fulfill the role that actually matters.

[–]fckredditt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

holy fucking shit that woman. also steve bing is those guys you hear about in pick up lectures. the guys who get around and fuck all the top girls but never stays with them. in this guy's case, he even impregnated them. god knows how many top tier women he impregnated. he also must've fucked thousands of top tier ones.

[–]ComradeCynic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TIL Steve Bing should do a TRP AMA...

[–]tomysotomayorfuxboys 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That sucks in principal, but 100k is chicken-scratch for a billionaire.

[–]rp_divorced[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't forget that this also happens to "regular" men everyday. I pay my Master's degree educated ex who refused to get a job 25% of of my salary as alimony for the next 7 years.

The system allows women (and a few men) the ability to harass the higher wage earner via the legal system with almost no repercussions until it just becomes easier to pay to make them go away.

[–]NeoreactionSafe -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Kirk Kerkorian should have saved every penny and taken it with him into the afterlife.

Maybe buy a high prestige seat in Valhalla?

Extra portions of alcohol to celebrate before the Twilight of the Gods? (Ragnarök)