Blue Pill ExampleHusband found Red Pill before Honeymoon when his hours old wife moaned her ex's name (self.TheRedPill)

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I love reading these articles because it's always, woe is me. I wish I could ask her a dozen questions, but that's all we have.

A few years ago, I was in a very intense relationship with "Rick." When it ended, I swore I wouldn't become so intimately involved with someone unless it was for life.

Alpha Widowed. Swore off sex.

I met "Tom" shortly afterward, and knew he was "the one."

Ugh. Only thing worse if she said, prince or fairy tale.

I shared with him my views on premarital sex but didn't explain what happened or why. He completely supported me.

Such Blue Pill... sure hon, you been CC all this time, but I'll wait for marriage, cause your shiz is the shiz.

We just married and had a beautiful reception, spending the night at a hotel near the airport because we were going to Europe for our honeymoon.

Looks like it's Beta's lucky night!

As things heated up between us, I accidentally said, "Oh, Rick."

They never forget that alpha cock.

I realized my mistake immediately, and the look of horror on my face was met by the look of hatred on his.

If only I was a fly on the wall. Dude's been waiting all this time for this moment.

"Who's Rick?!? Why are you thinking about Rick when you just married me?!?" It got really vicious.

I wonder what her idea of vicious is? I could imagine his tone.

He called his parents and told them to set up a divorce attorney when he returned. Then he called my parents and introduced himself as "your future ex-son-in-law." He asked them who Rick was and why I was moaning about him!

Gulp. oooh, what's that bitter taste? Ah yes... the Red Pill.

I pleaded with him for a chance to set things straight, but he quickly got dressed and took his suitcase and my passport with him, and told me not to follow him to Europe.

He paid for the Honeymoon, I hope he finally got laid.

The airlines couldn't help because I didn't have my passport, and when they tried to page him, he refused to talk to me.

BP no more.

He's not answering my calls,

I'd call that a hard NEXT!

and the only text he answered was one where I suggested couples' counseling. He said he's not the one fantasizing about an old flame on our wedding night.

Lol. I thought of being a paid counselor for couples at once time. Aside from not wanting to 'own' all their negativity... I just could not bring myself to take money from people in that position.

Good news for the former BP husband... no sex = annulment!

[–]transitivecurves 118 points118 points [recovered]

Amazing, this is the real-life equivalent of the hero disarming the bomb at T-00:01.

[–][deleted] 232 points233 points  (18 children)

Massive hamstering in the comments. The sisterhood is out to award her victim status and assure her that his reaction is so over the top she got lucky. Remember fellas, your emotions do not matter to any woman and they're worth even less once you're married.

[–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (0 children)

My favorite is that she builds up this big lie about chastity. SHE STARTED THIS. The chastity illusion was shattered but he followed through on it. She brought this on herself. How else I can I even explain this?!

[–]BinglesTRP 43 points44 points  (12 children)

Remember fellas, your emotions do not matter to any woman and they're worth even less once you're married.

Been there.

Ex-Wife to BP Me: "If you tell anyone I cheated on you, I'll tell them you're crazy"

I was crazy because I told her I knew she was cheating on me and I wouldn't stand for it. LOL

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (10 children)

Brutal. I've never met a man who could give a positive endorsement for being married, that includes my father.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Real talk, same here.

Every time a guy gets married, I realize that his father is probably telling him it's a good idea... and then I throw up a little in my mouth because I remember how the compounding multi-generational effects of Blue Pill Faggotry have devastated my generation

[–]qwertyleftme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"compounding multi-generational effects of Blue Pill Faggotry"

man that's some deep shit

[–]BinglesTRP 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Every man gets tested.

I'm glad I got mine out of the way in my 20's, and was able to right the ship.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Same. Mid 20s, engaged, living with her. I caught myself asking the question, "This is what the rest of my life is supposed to be like?"

There are random times when I still look back on that situation trying to think how my life would be like today had I continued that path.

[–]1Dark-Ulfberht 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I know this is heresy here, but marriage is not all negative. I'd still advise against it in most cases. That said, if you want a family, marriage remains the best way to go about doing that, even with all the negative incentives our society puts in place for successful men to tie themselves down.

The biggest problem is that guys think that marriage is somehow the end of the race. They think they no longer need to stay fit and maintain frame.


When you are playing the field, it's not hard to keep up a facade of hardness. If you open your life completely to a woman, like you do in a marriage, it's not possible to fake it anymore. You cannot just "maintain frame," you have to be a well-framed man. It's a huge difference that most people, even those here, just don't get.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In a lot of ways, because you don't get to easily next your partner, you have to work a lot harder to maintain the Captaincy.

Similar to the Karate Class analogy Patrice O'Neal uses.

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even for fit men who are constantly improving, marriage is a risky venture nowadays. There's no longer a stigma against women for being a divorcee, hence, women have very little to fear. Not to mention that feminists are trying to give women every bit of leverage they can get, and that spells disaster for most men.

If a guy can sift through all the sluts and whores, he may end up with a woman he's not very fond of and the result is unhappiness on his part.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 52 points53 points  (1 child)

Remember fellas, your emotions do not matter to any woman and they're worth even less once you're married.

I've experienced that. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OR FEEL. All rightie then.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Not only are your emotions UNIMPORTANT to women but they detest the weakness in the man that has the need to emote to her about ANYTHING.

Get a dog. Tell your RP aware guy friends. You shouldn't rely on a woman for anything.

[–]Sdom1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What's interesting is that she said, "it got really vicious." I'm going to guess that the truth came out, they started fighting about it and she went all in and said things she couldn't take back.

That being said, good for him, especially preventing her from going on the trip. For the idiot commentors on the original article's comments, she probably said she was going to follow him on the trip or some crazy shit. You know how that stuff goes.

[–]Brazineer 179 points180 points  (35 children)

Quoting the response to her in the link: "He called your parents to shame you." and "This glimpse of his true character is a gift. Accept it and annul the marriage."

also, I'd like to quote the reactions in the comments seaction: "Getting upset, understandable. Leaving, already an overreaction. Taking her passport, controlling and scary. Be done with this guy, have nothing more to do with him."

"Run! Run as fast as you can AWAY from this probable abuser! "

"I'd be willing to bet that his taking of your passport and (especially!) leaving the country with it is a felony. If it is, I'd go right down that path!" in other words: (SUE HIM!)

Basically, people think she is the victim who got lucky to found out who her husband really is before it was too late. This is an extreme example of how society reverses morality when it comes in favour of women.

[–]StManTiS 129 points130 points  (2 children)

Well you see she said something, he did something. Action frightens the weak and so the actor must be abusive/unstable/controlling etc.

[–]gonjinetik 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Action frightens the weak and so the actor must be abusive/unstable/controlling etc.

You explained women perfectly

[–]1independentmale 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Came here to say this. I'd like to say I was completely shocked by "Carolyn's" response, but this shit just doesn't surprise me anymore. The bitch fucks up big time, but it's still all the man's fault and he must be shamed for his (completely understandable) response.

Homeboy just dodged a bullet.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I just read the original link and literally yelled "holy fucking shit!" I mean wtf... wtf! The author who ever the hell.she is, is fucking blaming the guy for it! Wow. Just wow. This makes me angry and sad. Sure he wasnt expecting her to be virgin but moaning out your exs name during sex that too on wedding night! Fuck it. The guy has massive balls and respect to him. The girl played the "I dont have sex before marriage" card without telling him reasons... un fucking believable

[–]rpscrote 3 points4 points  (0 children)

True righteous anger can inject balls into even the most sackless of BP beasts of burden

[–]RosewoodPill 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Controlling is a hamster's favorite word.

[–]rossiFan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's a list of buzz words out there somewhere, I just know it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I am controlling... I control when you come into my life and when you leave my life now GTFO of my life.

[–]Redpillthriller 5 points6 points  (0 children)

its good they are telling her to annul the marriage. Guy can get away from her easily. Would be a lot more painful and costly for him if she went stalkerish.

[–]2wiseclockcounter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

couples traveling together usually keep their passports together in a safe space, no? He probably forgot he had hers or something. Or do you guys think he was actively preventing her from following him to Europe?

Either way, yea- those comments are ridiculous but predictable. The fact that he didn't even know her ex's name proves just how hard she was trying to bury the memory (chicks usually can't help but talk about their ex). Which is why it was probably all the more shocking to him when it came out of her mouth. Kudos to that dude. Swift, guttural action. Damn right she glimpsed his true character- she learned that he is no whipping post and he knows how to make important decisions with conviction. A man who values his honor and dignity is something she'll soon be sore to miss out on.

[–]Cell-i-Zenit 7 points8 points  (19 children)

tbh both are fucked. She is hitting the wall, thinking about alpha and he is acting still BP.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Not sure why this got down-voted, dude's dead on - right now they're equally pathetic and rock bottom pickings.

The only difference is, he can grow some balls and dignity whereas she can't un-dick herself and become 19 again.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Your second sentence makes me happy :-). Why I like being a man.

[–]BlackHeart89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

right now

I don't know about that. Dude just hard nexted her instantly. I bet he won't make this mistake again. TRP just kicked down the door and punch him dead in the face.

[–]1sardinemanR 27 points28 points  (14 children)

What? How is he being BP? He just hard nexted her and told her to fuck off.

[–]truthiesttruth 46 points47 points  (13 children)

What kind of chump waits until their wedding night to fuck the woman? Thats basically signing on the dotted line....

CUCKOLD's SIGNATURE:____________________________

[–]1sardinemanR 32 points33 points  (11 children)

Someone that believes in unicorns. Basically the men from the 1960s and prior, when marriage meant something and women were expected to be virgins.

It's thousands of years of instincts, it takes men awhile to unplug. They need RP now to know better.

[–]brokenshelf 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Even people in the 60's knew that almost no one was a virgin. It was a convenient lie they told themselves to make Ma and Pa happy, as they did it for their folks before them.


I just grabbed one of the first Google results I saw, but this kind of thing has been happening since time immemorial. Even ultra-religious shepherds daughters from a thousand years ago were still getting pounded by the farm boy a few acres over.

[–]1sardinemanR 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Did you read the comments section? It was 50% waited, the author screwed up the statistics and even admitted he did, and said he would update the article (but clearly didn't).

Here is the relevant comment:

WRONG! Those numbers are from tables that show the cumulative percent who have had ANY intercourse — pre-marital OR marital. The correct data on the percent who were virgins at marriage have been published in reports from the National Center for Health Statistics. Those reports are available online at “cdc.gov”

The earliest data available are for people first married beween 1960 and 1964, when 48.3% of all women(and 52.6% of white women)were virgins at first marriage (no data were available for males until later). There was a steady decline in each successive marriage cohort to those first married in 1990-94, when 5.8% of the males and 12.2% of the females were virgins. After that there was a sharp increase and in the cohort first married in 1995-2002, 10.3% of the males and 13.5% of the females were virgins.

That increase is a reflection of the dramatic decline in teenage sexual activity, especially among male teens, since 1988, which means that there will probably be a continued increase in virginity at first marriage in the next few marriage cohorts.

And that is far more reasonable, considering 86% of women back then considered sex outside of marriage "shameful" and there used to be a huge stigma for it.

Things were definitely different a few decades ago, and through most of history. I do not buy the shepherd's daughter thing a thousand years ago, sans birth control. Simple fact was without birth control sex would lead to babies, and with babies women would be in poverty and nobody would support them. Remember welfare and child support are modern inventions. So women had to be careful about sex.

Anyway we are kind of going off topic, and I also do not at all disagree that now a virgin woman with morals is a unicorn in the West.

But if you go to other cultures, like say the Middle East, both sexes are going to be virgins at marriage.

[–]rossiFan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he switched from BP to TRP at the moment she moaned her ex's name. It's called an epiphany.

[–]Throway99038 46 points47 points  (8 children)

His biggest fault was waiting till marriage without even getting a clarification why she wants to wait. He probably assumed she is a virgin. Never ever make any assumptions life, its better to be blunt, then making a wrong assumption. I must say guy went complete nuclear, although he shouldn't have taken her passport with her, she can get him arrested for that. I will never wait for anyone, doesn't matter even if she is a virgin, just move on.

P.S The comments were fucking disgusting. They pretty much blamed the husband for everything, without even understanding how pathetic and inadequate his wife made him feel on their wedding day.

[–]redtapass 11 points12 points  (2 children)

He wanted to extricate himself from the mess. Assuming he'd paid for & arranged the whole trip, taking away the passport was probably the only way he could prevent her from coming after him. You know, where he gets to enjoy some free drama /s. With lots of tears & tantrums, emotional blackmail in the airport, all along the flight trip, and beyond!

This way, he's done something where he at least has some way to enjoy / minimize the pain. There's no need to always be in the right. Remember, when someone stoops so low & has betrayed + "suckered you", all bets are off!

[–]H42 10 points10 points [recovered]

In the article, she admits to wanting to become his stalker. She tried to board his plane, but was denied a boarding pass because he had her passport. He absolutely did the right thing in taking her passport.

If she goes to the law to punish him, he can easily say it wasn't theft, he was holding both passports because he was married and was head-of-household. He just forgot in the heat of the moment, and there was no theft intent. Crimes are adjudicated on "intent", most of the time.

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[–]TheJessee 232 points232 points [recovered]

The list of reasons why not to get married just gets longer every day and the list of reasons why to get married is still empty

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 432 points433 points  (59 children)

I disagree, getting married is a great idea! Emotional support, commitment, current and future financial benefit, stable family life, loyalty.

Oh wait... you meant for men. Yeah, there's no benefit to men getting married.

[–]NAmember81 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Marriage is an excellent institution, for those who like institutions.

[–]inu50kza 120 points121 points  (52 children)

There's joy in a happy family life. Growing up was a blast. Time with my parents is still the purest form of love I experience and have ever experienced.

I'd love to be able to build a family of my own. Marriage isn't the problem, these women are.

My mum is red pill as fuck, tells me to fuck and chuck and make money and then marry a nice easily controllable submissive girl. She also works and has a career but supports my dad and never did the money shaming bullshit when he was drifting and making fuck all. Now that he earns more there's n gold digging. She's frugal as fuck even though they can blow it.

They've both supported each other and pushed each other to achieve way more than they ever would have on their own.

A partnership that's mutually beneficial is the idea of a marriage.

In desperation of not finding it men settle for shit - disgusting fat slob that wont leave or hot girl alpha widow who treats them like shit. 1st wave.

Some guys wise up and grow self respect, their girls get to that age and from their mid 20s start getting more desperate to snag someone before looks go and their biological clock runs out. Girls act deceitful and change after marriage or after the first kid. 2nd wave.

Misogynists. Find stupid/naive/broken girls. Make them reliant on them for money and emotional support. They're abusive, unpredictable arseholes. Some of them beat their women. Lets not pretend this group doesn't exist but lets acknowledge there are spectrums of shit behaviour, abuse and manipulation. Abuse is inexcusable but you can see how borne out of frustration and not knowing how to keep a family together and stop his woman from imploding everything they built he starts employing manipulative tactics. Less understandable but still relatable is the man that just tries to keep a tight grip on the family due to helplessness when attempting/failing at success in the outside world.

This leaves the top brass of men. Not the richest or most handsome. Just the most calm, self assured and self amused/independant. They get the women happy to go in as equals but knowing that both arent going to have the exact same roles.

It's like in F1. The woman may be the engineer team that build the car but knows her job is to support the race car driver that's going to get the societal plaudits and headlines. But together they win the constructors cup and the F1 championship.

[–]Grompher 17 points18 points  (5 children)

There's joy in a happy family life. Growing up was a blast. Time with my parents is still the purest form of love I experience and have ever experienced.

This is the dream. But with who? Women on Facebook all day looking at kittens and talking to guys on secret message boards. No thanks.

They cry when your leaving, they claim they adore you. They use tears as a shield and I don't buy it. MGTOW or TRP.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 28 points29 points  (1 child)

I agree with your points, and I'm glad your family life was so happy growing up - mine was pretty good too although misguided and idealistic in too many ways.

But I don't see how this makes marriage a good thing for men. It's actually a bad thing. Marriage incentivises women to leave - only if you're married do you pay out alimony. Why would you pay someone to leave you? Because that's what you're doing, on average. You're just making it harder to keep her. Her options just got better, yours worse, and that somehow makes things work? Not in the real world I can assure you. That financial motivation pretty quickly turns into entitlement and hatred.

Your parents were part of a different generation - before divorce-shame was eliminated, before no-fault divorce and before "Lets have a divorce party to celebrate your independence while you live off his hard work."

Today marriage is nothing more than a one sided retirement fund for the wall-hitting girl at your expense.

[–]RosewoodPill 18 points19 points  (5 children)

inu50kza and others like him can't see the forest through the trees.

20 years ago when we were flying kites with our perfect families, there was no Feminazi movement, no SJW's, no backwards social media witch hunts and no AshleyMadison.com.

Belgium has a 70% divorce rate, the US will follow.

Women are now aiming for multiple marriages and "upgrading" each time using money for plastic surgery from their first husband.

Or you can ignore all the reality above and just be a sucker.

[–]Limekill 20 points21 points  (4 children)


It so depressing seeing those AshleyMadison ads on TV. We actually have advertisements that encourage people to have affairs and destroy families. We are actually advertising for this to occur.

Enjoy the decline.

[–]Rage-Blanket 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see what you did there and I approve

[–]eaton80 1 point2 points  (2 children)

There is little reason why a married woman should not use Ashley Madison or Tinder. If they caught their "punishment" will be divorce cash and prizes, exalted victim status, and likely Lifetime Alimony.

[–]Limekill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying they should or shouldn't.

What I am saying is that the Government allows on free-to-air TV a business that encourages break-ups of relationships, even though it is by default a pretty bad option for society.

This is how screwed the society has become - do you think the same ad would of been acceptable in the 1950s?

[–]RosewoodPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And now that it is becoming socially acceptable and even sitcom funny to do this to a man, it will become much more rampant.

[–]itmustbeitalian 11 points12 points  (2 children)

You are correct, marriage is not the problem. These women are. The current day "princesses" can do no wrong. More quality women = more quality marriages.

[–]eaton80 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Marriage 2.0 laws ARE the problem. There is very little incentive to be a "quality woman" when the system in place rewards bad behavior.

[–]1London-Bananas 42 points43 points  (30 children)

There's joy in a happy family life

Absolutely, so don't get married. Because if you do, you will no longer have a family, a life, happiness or joy.

[–]inu50kza 18 points19 points  (26 children)

Throwing your toys out of the pram and not playing the game is no solution at all and it's no magic pill to winning. Either way you don't get what you want which is the stability of a normal family life.

I want a kid and I want that kid to have a normal family life with a mother and father. Most of the families I've known have existed this way fairly successfully for hundreds of years with few anomalies.

With the change in dynamics caused by 3rd wave feminism and the inevitable changes to come you just need to be discerning in how you make your decisions and have the savvy to legally protect yourself in case things turn sour.

Plates and one night stands are no way to expend your energy when you should have a dedicated support crew around you during your best years age from 30-50 so you can achieve the most you possibly can. It's you responsibility in your 20s to build that foundation if you want to leave a legacy.

For me failing to build a successful family life is a huge failure. Along with my career, health, friendships, influence and impact on community a successful family life is one of my 6 key goals in life and should be for most men. I think MGTOW goes way too far. Its principles are sound but basic philosophy is all too defeatist. Travel the world, not everywhere is a self obsessed selfish societal/cultural shithole like Manhattan or the City of London on a Friday night.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Throwing your toys out of the pram and not playing the game is no solution at all and it's no magic pill to winning. Either way you don't get what you want which is the stability of a normal family life.

A marriage contract does not guarantee that your wife will behave herself. All it guarantees is that you are thoroughly fucked if you fail to make proper leadership decisions consistently "until death do you part".

You can have all the benefits of a stable family life without getting married. Just follow RP insights, and any woman will obey and follow you like a lost puppy.

[–]1London-Bananas 13 points14 points  (22 children)

What I'm saying is that it's fine to want and have kids, a long term/permanent woman and a white picket fence, but getting married will leave you with none of those because it means she can have them taken from you at gunpoint.

A quality woman will stay with you for you, and although she may want to get married it will work out if you know what you're doing. If you have a wife who only wanted to stay with you under the condition of marriage it wasn't working anyways.

[–]inu50kza 5 points6 points  (20 children)

means she can have them taken from you at gunpoint.

I'm a lawyer, it's very easy to protect your interests. Yes in 50/50 cases or even 60/40 ones the judgement call goes to the woman because it's deemed in the best interest of the child but it's downright stupid and ignorant of the law to claim you can't get married and protect your assets in case of divorce. It's normally just stupid bitter men who couldn't see the risk when they had nothing or didn't have the balls to ask for a prenup.

A lot of my friends are serial divorcees. They pick up a hot blonde 20 year old with big tits, get bored in 5 years and move one without bleeding a cent.

You get married for the legal rights in bestows. I'm more familiar with English family law than American but you miss out on all tax benefits, things like being able to make decisions in critical situations or even visitation rights in hospitals. Decisions re kids get complicated.

With cohabitation laws in most western and commonwealth countries you have all the responsibilities and negatives of marriage anyway if you live together, with a marriage contract you also get a slice of the benefits. Get a prenup in a jurisdiction which upholds it (not England and many American states but most of Europe is great) and you're fine if it turns to shit.

[–]SeekingAlpha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm more familiar with English family law than American but you miss out on all tax benefits, things like being able to make decisions in critical situations or even visitation rights in hospitals.

Tax benefits depend on income of each partner and can actually result in a penalty rather than a benefit in a situation with two high or two low incomes.

As for hospital visitations, durable power of attorney...it's pretty simple really.

[–]DannyDemotta 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Only 8 US States recognize common law marriage, and the majority of them are in flyover territory. Only Texas has a sizable population.

Sir, we don't need your bullshit. You can not have it all ways. You make it sound as if any woman will happily agree to a pre-nup just for the chance to get married to you, but those same women will violently reject having your children out of wedlock. It's stupidity, and you know better.

Clearly the angle here is to have as many children with your woman as you can, before marrying; and if she insists on getting married for X benefit, that's when you insist on a pre-nup. You don't fucking immediately agree to get married from day zero.

"hospital visitation", though, fucking really? Just as you can get a pre-nup, you can fill out forms to allow specific people to visit you in the hospital. Don't be daft.

Why are you doing this to us, btw? What is your agenda?

[–]1London-Bananas 6 points7 points  (16 children)

it's very easy to protect your interests

Which you wouldn't need to do if you hadn't gotten married in the first place. There are no benefits

[–]inu50kza 7 points8 points  (15 children)

I literally just listed the benefits. It get seven more comprehensive in English law but don't want to turn this into a Trusts law lecture.

With cohabitation you have all the responsibilities and payouts when you split even if you don't get married. Often just the girl staying over a certain number of nights per week and leaving a few clothes gets counted.

Best to make control the situation. Get a marriage contract with an iron clad prenup and be 100% sure nothing bad will happen if it turns sour.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You're an English lawyer? Please tell me why the Wikipedia page and every other reference I'm reading for common law marriage in England says that there is no common law marriage in England, and this is a common misconception among lay people.

Either you're a shitty lawyer, or a liar.

[–]ILoveSunflowers 11 points12 points  (12 children)

Common law isn't really enforced anymore, so that's just wrong. No such thing as an "iron clad" prenup because it can be tossed out on her words that she was "coerced". DON'T GET MARRIED.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

After reading this post, I'm calling bullshit on you being a lawyer. If you are, then your degree is from DeVry or some shit.

[–]JohnGalt316 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you can have a kid who is raised by a mother and father without getting married.

[–]GreatWhite_Buffalo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What if you don't want kids? When I was 14 I recognized that I'm not interested, but as I got older I realized that I do enjoy the companionship of a woman.

[–]occupythekitchen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

procreation but that isn't a guarantee with awalt

[–]RoadToOneFifty 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Marriage used to be good....back when hypergamy and shitty female behavior was kept in check by religious and social pressure. Back when "slut" was still a bad word...not a badge of honor for shameless whores. Back when social media didn't massage the egos of women nonstop 24/7. Back when feminism had yet to poison the culture. In 2015? Fuck no. There is NO reason to get married if you're a man. I've tried to look for one.....just ONE...Nope tumbleweeds

[–]PlanB_pedofile 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Kids... let me tell ya kids... it was awesome having a mom AND Dad around to raise me.

I couldn't imagine my life had they gotten divorced and there was a time it was close.

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[–]aDrunkenWhaler 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Considering she'll take half of your stuff and thensome when she'll push forward the divorce paper it's hardly an incentive to consider.

[–]eaton80 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When she can take half your assets and future military pension as her reward for having an affair, the small pay bump really is a shitty deal. They pay bump has to be 100% (i.e. double) for marriage to be a break-even proposition.

[–]rossiFan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Being in the military is the very best stand-alone reason to not get married. I've seen too many guys get completely and ruthlessly fucked over while in the military.

[–]SamGill 34 points34 points [recovered]

There are women in this world who simply do not understand, they just do not understand that moaning an ex's name on your wedding night, especially when she held out sex from him and lied about her chastity - though he was "the one" - is a strict no-no:

Getting upset, understandable. Leaving, already an overreaction. Taking her passport, controlling and scary. Be done with this guy, have nothing more to do with him.

LOL she's the one who wanted to marry HIM.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther[S] 22 points23 points  (2 children)

an ex's name on your wedding night

From the very beginning, I adopt a simple pet-name.

Sweetie, honey, baby. I could count on both hand how many times I've said a SO's actual name in the course of a relationship. Never, ever had a slip.

[–]The_BeardedGentleman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Now that I stop and think about it... I only say their name when I'm sitting them down for a stern one on one talk. Outside of that their name is typically "god damn" or "keep doing that".

[–]monzzter221 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Be done with this guy"

Translation- your hamster will spin this untimely loss and blatant reminder of the blackness of your character by convincing you that you dodged a bullet and that you made the decision to end it.

[–]NikoMyshkin 2 points2 points [recovered]

Taking her passport, controlling and scary.

Controlling?? It was either unintentional, heat-of-the-moment or an attempt to distance her from him. How is that controlling? It's the biggest "fuck off" that's possible in that situation.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

And they wonder why this fuckin sub exists. For every action there is a reaction.

Hence TRP.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Do none of the commenters... or even herself realize that by saying the other dude's name... she was inadvertently thinking about him while having sex? It's like: oops mistake teehee. No bitch... you were thinking about another dude while having sex FOR THE FIRST TIME with your husband.

[–]MagneticJohnson 2 points3 points  (2 children)

not to stop the circle jerk here, but it's possible to say the wrong name without thinking about the person. I've done it before: said the name of a girl when hooking up with a girl that was hotter.

but yeah, if a girl did that to me, I'd be disgusted. not sure if I'd break up with her, but she'd be a good 70% less innocent to me. And for a relationship to work, she has to be feminine and innocent and I'm her king. you can't destroy the balance.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It might be possible when you are spinning plates and had one over the day before... but this girl was in a relationship, waiting for the wedding night with her special guy. the one true love. and she goes and says a dudes name from perhaps years ago. That shit is messed up.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bigger question. Did she tell him about "Rick" at all? regardless of the sex issue? While not everything necessarily expects a full faith and accounting of their S.O.'s sexual history before marriage, there is an implicit understanding that they will at least provide a 'big picture" of their past, including notable ex's, as they are bound to resurface at some point.

who's rick?

Oh, just the guy I was madly in love with before I settled for you.

No shit the guy left.

[–]squishyburger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that was my thought as well. Her mind was clearly elsewhere and she is not exactly over and done with her ex. This dude made the right call but calling the parents was his one mistake. It brought a degree of drama and outside influences that she can milk for sympathy.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (8 children)

That particular story rubbed me the wrong way a little. Rarely do I see one of these harrowing tales of spectacular female selfishness disguised as victimhood and get this irritated. Seriously, why get angry at the rain?

However, I continue to see over and over and over the straight up stupidity of people and I tell you it wears me out. How could anyone read that story and not see how ridiculously fucking dishonest and selfish that woman was?

Really? Really?

Its not the pea-brained moronic behavior of the woman that bothers me - fuck you expect that shit. Most women out there are tantrum throwing 5 year olds with boobs and a well developed ability to passive-aggressively manipulate. Its the mass delusion out there of people who are completely fucking blind to it. Seriously how long is society going to go on and on about the emperor's fine clothes? THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES FOR FUCKS SAKE!!

Its like people see a woman experiencing difficulty and their reflexive action is to coddle and soothe instead of seeing the obvious relationship between her own actions and the trouble she's in. Fuck, half the time a woman doesn't even have to make up a bullshit cover story as people (male and female) seem to just subconsciously do it for her.

There there princess, are you OK? We're so sorry the big bad man was mean to you. Maybe you could have communicated a little better, but this is for the best he was no good anyway - such a bad abusive man.

Nobody considered the potential long term consequences for the man. The marriage courtship was based on a lie she was spinning. If the marriage was the result of lies she was orchestrating, does anyone think the marriage had much chance for long term success? Fuck, now who do you think is going to suffer when the marriage fails? Hmm? Taking into account this is a fucking marriage - and that's a pretty big fucking deal - to a man who could afford a European honeymoon - don't you think a hefty portion of the reason why he was "the one" had something to do with his wallet?

This poor bastard was her meal ticket - the brass fucking ring. All she had to do lock that down and seal the deal on life long financial security (even after divorce in a few years) - despite her "no premarital sex" shenanigans - was to make a meaningful effort to enjoy sex with her new husband and she could even do that.

You had one job honey. ONE JOB!

Now she's sad. So sad. That cad! And everyone feels sorry for her.

Give. Me. A. Fucking. Break.

And we're the privileged ones living in a patriarchal society?


[–]MagneticJohnson 7 points8 points  (1 child)

there's something truly poetic about a skank losing the guy she plans to settle down with because he finds out about her past.

you can't have it all.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"But the past is the past and that doesn't matter!!!!"

The ultimate statement of cognitive dissonance from carousel riding hamsters. 'The past is the past and it doesn't matter which is why I have to lie about my cock count'.

[–]SamGill 6 points6 points [recovered]

there's something poetic about reading this post of yours.

i too have seen it all - and can hear stories about women falsely accusing young boys of rape to collect $1.3m dollars and their victims to spend the next 5 years in prison and the next 5 years with an ankle bracelet and a lifetime on a sex offender's list - all without batting an eyelid, but this story viscerally disgusted me.

the woman did not: "explain what happened or why" she didn't engage in premarital sex - because she was playing the whole "i'm a virgin girl" so she could nab a stable fellow who would invest emotionally into her. if she told him "i don't have sex with people because I had sex with Rick and i got burnt badly" then obviously she would have lost the guy and her meal ticket and his stability.

"He completely supported me."

yes he supported you because he was fooled by your machievellian deception. he thought you were a virgin and thought he found a unicorn and he respected that.

and of course he has every right to be pisssed off given that he passed up other girls just so he could spend a lifetime with a slut - moreover a lying slut who continually emphasised her virgin nature before all, hoping that the past would never rear its ugly head to haunt her. and why would he make the call to her parents? it's patently obvious that chastity was a very important thing, and her level of deception would make Machiavelli himself blush, moreover her conservative christian parents probably vouched for her impeachable character before the prospective groom while they were courting.

and she's the victim in this entire charade?

there's some sweet justice in knowing that she did not get away with her lies, and that she was held to account.

Fuck. me. Up the ass. Unfucking believable. unbelievable.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Lets say that over the course of her life our little snowflake is pretty selective (giving her the benefit of the doubt) with her sex life until getting hot and heavy with Alpha Rick.

During this short wild trist, Rick totally bangs her out - his dick ends up in every orifice - he pulls her hair, choke fucks her, sprays her down, etc... The whole nine yards. Then dumps her hard leaving her emotionally shell shocked with her pussy still tingling all heart broken and sad.

Is her decision to slow things down with men after that all that bad? I'd argue that no it's not a bad decision. She got led down the primrose path by Rick - hey shit happens - you live and you learn.

Here's where she went way wrong IMO...

You can't reinstate your virginity and pretend like you never got banged out. There is no more "saving until marriage" bullshit. That horse is out of the barn.

What she can say is not every guy is going get the Rick experience - and the next guy who gets that she's going to make sure its a bit more meaningful.

OK so she meets a guy she thinks has great potential. Telling him she is a chaste virgin is a flat out lie so she shouldn't do that. Telling him that - Hey not that she hasn't had sexual relationships in the past, but she just doesn't hop into bed with any guy and she wants to make sure things are pretty serious before entertaining that part of the relationship - most guys looking for a good moral girl for marriage in this day and age might be inclined to accept that explanation - best part about it - its smart prudent behavior and its the truth (hopefully).

OK so things are going extremely will in the relationship and there is real talk of taking the next step. This is a good time to consider having sex be a part of the relationship - and well if he gets on bended knee and gives her a diamond ring - well shit - she should be blowing him that night. This guy just spent $20K on a ring and promised to marry her? The least she can do is play with the guy's balls a little - Christ.

This is supposed to be the man she loves - sex with his should him should come easy. It should be something she wants to do.

The fact that there is an elaborate ruse going on and she's putting off sex with the guy until the last possible minute tells you something - and that something doesn't bode well for Tom.

[–]1Ronin11A 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Props "Tom" to handling that situation like a fucking boss. Hard next, entertain no bullshit, and away we go.

[–]curiousthis 31 points32 points  (4 children)

The comments are hilarious!

He is the one who's filing for divorce, and they're all advising her to run away? Clearly there's a whole bunch of selective reading going on.

He took her passport, so that makes him an abuser? Smart man - making sure she could not follow him into the airport, lie to the cops and get him arrested.

[–]bloodshot_eyes 19 points20 points  (2 children)

You don't need a passport to talk to the police.

By taking the passport he is ensuring that she's trapped at home, and cannot follow him over to Europe and interrupt his awesome vacation with her bullshit.

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[–]bloodshot_eyes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes. Trapped. The cage may be big, but without a passport she still can't leave it.

[–]1sardinemanR 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Doesn't even need a divorce actually, presumably it's within the first few months of marriage, and they haven't even consummated. She defrauded him by pretending she is a virgin.

This is an easy annulment.

Or it should be and was a few decades ago, maybe they changed the whacked out laws so he's stuck.

[–]theozoph 9 points10 points  (6 children)

Oh, the Hamster in this article is fast enough to give the Flash a run for his money :

But. For this to obliterate all of his supposed love and trust, plus any inner mandate to be kind? His commitment to you -- as a human being, vs. as a bride or presumed virgin -- can't have been deep.

He didn't just get sad or angry, or yell, or cancel the honeymoon -- he went for your emotional jugular and hasn't let go. He called your parents to shame you. Making mistakes, that's life. Living in fear of his reaction to your next mistake, that's Hell.

This glimpse of his true character is a gift. Accept it and annul the marriage.

Typical female advice : it's not your fault, honey, he wasn't the right one, he was a cruel, cruel man who would probably have abused you. He did you a favor by showing his true character!

This wasn't "a mistake". It was deception, a con job, and a giant shit test all rolled into one. The "Oh, Rick" moment was most likely a well-calculated ploy to plumb the depths of his beta soul, and a tactical strike to murder his self-worth. Had he gone with it, there would most likely have been an "open" relationship in their future.

Good for him for dodging the bullet and walking out like a boss.

[–]1CowardlyPetrov 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You sir are some red pill elite. It didn't cross my mind that she did it on purpose but once you said it I realized of course she fucking did.

[–]NikoMyshkin 5 points5 points [recovered]

a tactical strike to murder his self-worth

it was probably an unconscious motive, not that that in any way in any tiny amount even begins to mitigate her. if any thing it makes it worse.

[–]theozoph 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I used to wonder how "unconscious" those shit tests really were. Now that I've had women open up their soul to me more (they only ever really open to guys who can read through their bullshit), I realize they are very aware of what they are doing.

Think how cruel girls are to each other, how they shun each other, destroy reputations, play mind games and toy with each other's emotions their whole childhood and adolescence : adult women are the end product of a 16-years-long course in manipulation. They know what the fuck they're doing, believe me.

Just like BP men assume honor in women, women project what they know about social relations, and assume manipulation in men. When you display Machiavellian traits and pass shit tests with regularity, women become more open about how deliberately manipulative they are. In their mind, the beta is himself a manipulator (everyone they know is, after all), just not very good at it. Therefore they have no qualms about toying with his emotions, fucking him over and destroying him. If he's a chump, it's his fault.

To a lot of women, manipulation is the norm, and like sociopaths to control you they often resort to character assassination, shaming, gaslighting, blame shifting and nuclear put-downs like this one. The point of shit-tests like the "Oh Rick" moment is to provoke an overreaction that they'll be able to shame you for, therefore stripping you of a weapon you could use against them.

They don't do it unconsciously to "come clean", or because they feel guilt, or can't stand to lie anymore : they do it so you lose your mind, your higher ground, and so they have something they can use against you in return : "you struck me!", "you called me a whore!", "you're so mean, I thought you were different from the others!", "you're just insecure!", etc. Once they know your buttons and know how to deflect your response ("or what? you're going to hit me again?") they can press them anytime they want you to cave in to their demands. And like children, the further they can push, the more they do.

In OP's example, BB managed to hold his own by keeping frame and socially shaming the whore. She had no response to that, and so he won.

Then he called my parents and introduced himself as "your future ex-son-in-law." He asked them who Rick was and why I was moaning about him!

Nuke it from orbit — it's the only way to be sure. :)

For something a little more light-hearted on the subject, Bill Burr is our Red Pill Prophet : How Women Argue

[–]NikoMyshkin 2 points2 points [recovered]

thank you for taking the time to systematically (and politely) explain why my point (unconscious shit-testing) is unlikely to hold merit. I appreciate it. I had felt that perhaps some women don't consciously do it but your write-up made me realise awalt.

[–]theozoph 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You can't go wrong with AWALT.

More importantly, you shouldn't. Even if you're wrong, it keeps you on the high ground and prevents one-itis and beta-ification.

If you're wrong, it's up to her to prove it, not up to you to find excuses for her behavior.

It's as much mental hygiene as it is Truth.

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[–]JohnGalt316 96 points97 points  (10 children)

then you will find out she had an ex when she moans his name on your wedding night

you know what her problem was? she made sex too important by withholding it in the relationship. if she had been fucking him throughout the relationship and she accidentally made a mistake, he could have let it go easily. now, he only has a sample size of 1 to draw conclusions from. of course he will think the worst.

[–]bakbakgoesherthroat 21 points22 points  (6 children)

Conversely had she slept with him before marriage, he might not have offered her commitment in the first place. The problem here is a promiscuous girl applying virgin-girl game (no sex until commitment). She may have fooled the guy initially but eventually the lies came out in a moment of weakness.

[–]BrunoOh 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Men don't work that way. Withholding sex to get a (lasting) relationship only works on betas.

[–]bakbakgoesherthroat 14 points15 points  (1 child)

It doesn't work now because the vast majority of women out there are promiscuous. So if one girl decides to go against the grain, she'll get passed up because there are easier women out there. Not too long ago, women used to shame the promiscuous girls to avoid the catch-22 brought on by feminists: sleep with him early on and you're a slut; make him wait and you're a prude. Honestly women did this to themselves.

[–]BrunoOh 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Yet they didn't actually withhold sex back then either. They got married a lot quicker. The guy didn't spend years in celibate boyfriend limbo.

[–]RosewoodPill 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She was prob just trying to cuckold the sucker from day 1.

[–]CharlieIndiaShitlord 22 points23 points  (1 child)

The way I read between the lines, she never stated she was a virgin, but she played that angle. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was chasing the unicorn thinking he had himself a wholesome woman full of morals and integrity.

'Oh Rick' completely shattered his perceptions of who this woman actually is, it betrayed every emotional investment he had wrongly placed in her.

He failed to qualify his assumptions, and it blew up in his face on his wedding night. This man did not know who he was marrying; he placed the pussy on the pedestal.

A hell of a way to swallow the pill, but an easy lesson for those reading about it. While I feel for the guy, it is his own fault.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

If you want to find a virgin, you will have to start running day game at elementary and middle schools.

Hittable virgins of legal age are as rare as unicorns.

[–]LionLaw 65 points66 points  (26 children)

She moans her ex boyfriends name on the wedding night and this worthless whore actually tries to go on a European vacation her husband paid for after he tells her he is getting a divorce lawyer lined up. I'm hating women more and more every day.

[–]Kloohorn 67 points68 points  (7 children)

Women aren't the problem, it's your expectation of them that's the problem.

[–]LionLaw 35 points36 points  (2 children)

I'm sorry that expecting women to understand how hurt a man would be if his wife moaned her exs name the very first time she had sex with her husband, on their fucking wedding night.
But no, the writer and all the commenters blamed the man and harassed him for being reasonably upset and wanting a divorce/not allow this hoe on the trip he had paid for.
I'll take your advice and lower my expectations of women to be dogshit, it should be a pleasant surprise if they manage to not behave as such.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'll take your advice and lower my expectations of women to be dogshit, it should be a pleasant surprise if they manage to not behave as such.

That will ensure you are no longer angry. Always remember that women are children. Society and daddy govt. treats them as such and you need not do anything different.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The sky is pink.

Remove rose colored glasses.

The sky is actually blue.

Deal with it. End of story.

[–]Steve_Wiener 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Expecting them to be decent?

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (6 children)

If your response to this is "I hate women" then you are in the wrong place. You aren't ready to swallow the pill yet.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 12 points13 points  (2 children)

If only I was a fly on the wall. Dude's been waiting all this time for this moment.

She was either banging Rick on the side the entire time or she said that on purpose as a shit test. Or both.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I was trying to figure that out...

That's one of the dozen questions I want to know, how long ago was it, how long she made him wait, etc, etc.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Who the fuck in the world would wait after a girl saying "no sex before mariage". Its fucking dumb. Even if unicorns did existed, it would still be fucking dumb. Imagine you're not sexually compatible. You have no fucking clue, so you would be marrying someone you dont know. Wth?

This guy is just plain dumb, i don't think we should see this as a good exemple. Anyways, trp still apply

[–]2popthatpill 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I've never understood this "sexually compatible" thing. It's one of those relationship-advice-column type things that women and BP manlets care about.

I suspect that "sexual incompatibility" is just hamsterese for "he's a pussy-drying beta".

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Imagine you're not sexually compatible

The idea of marriage initially was not sex. It was companionship, family, procreation etc. I have been to 3rd world countries where women simply do not groom themselves. Muslim women sport staches and get really fat but the husbands stick around because they are the mother of their kids thus giving them a lot of importance and respect. I can understand a traditional man placing more important on the actual marriage and what a good traditional woman has to offer apart from sex. Not in our western countries though.

[–]Mightyskunk 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This post gives me happy feels all over. Stupid ass woman.

[–]RationalistFaith1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And from this day forth, we shall never forget the:

Oh, Rick moment!

God I love being single!!!

[–]Your_Personal_Jesus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Having basic self-respect for one's self isn't RP. It's just a mimimum in this case. If she said it and he just kept plowing, he should have probably cut off his balls in the morning cause that would have been the first and last time he EVER had sex period.

EDIT: The OP missed by far the best part, which is the therapist's response.

"A quirk of the human brain". HOLY FUCKING SHIT. That's what you call her blurting out old dude's name? A quirk of the human brain? Are you fucking KIDDING.

"Making mistakes, that's life" So you're allowed to do whatever, but his reaction is "a glimpse of his true character"? You screaming out Chad Thundercock's name has no refection on her though, and HE should have stayed true to "his commitment to you". Wow, women don't even have to hamster for themselves, they just get professional hamsters for themselves online.

[–]Jaghiro 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Someone read the Answer to this post?

This glimpse of his true character is a gift. Accept it and annul the marriage.

It's the mans fault, as always.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther[S] 22 points23 points  (14 children)

I have trouble choosing flairs for a story like this... he WAS BP, now is RP. Which flair, it's an example of both.

How about a BP>RP transition flair? =)

[–]imgonnabethegreatest 11 points12 points  (2 children)

While this is a good idea, I don't think it happens enough to warrant it's own flair.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Aw cmon guys don't downvote an opinion like that, just reply.

Upvote to null a down.

[–]imgonnabethegreatest 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's all good lol, not everybody is going to agree with all of my opinions which is something trp taught me.

For the record, though, I upvoted your post because it is a really good idea but seeing as how the majority of the world is blue and won't ever go red, I don't think it happens enough.

Maybe it could work if it also worked for reports of people unplugging and their experiences after(sort of a modified field report if you will).

[–]Cell-i-Zenit 0 points1 point  (7 children)

i am not sure if he is RP now. He is acting like a little bitch. Taking the passport and stuff like this? Talking to the parents etc? He is acting like a women who got angry.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther[S] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Taking the passport and stuff like this?

Take that part of it with a grain of salt. We don't know if he took it or forgot he had it with his. I used to carry all the passports.

And even if he took it on purpose... I couldn't find any particular laws that scream he's in trouble for it. At least she couldn't ruin his vacation.

Talking to the parents etc?

I'd want to know who the hell that guy was too, before I committed myself to leaving.

He is acting like a women who got angry.

Or acting like any gender that got angry.

I don't see any hysterics or irrationality. All seems rather calculated and cool. If he hung around and blew up the whole time, or went on honeymoon and berated her, or many other poor ways to handle it, that would be bad. But this sounds like a checklist.

[–]curiousthis 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Taking the passport and stuff like this?

That was actually a very smart move. Without a passport, the airlines will not let you check in for an international flight. Which meant that he could go on his solo honeymoon while making sure she was in no position to prevent him from leaving (for example: by lying to the cops and getting him arrested).

[–]1sardinemanR 9 points10 points  (1 child)

This is being a bitch?

He just shit all over her and set the case for why she's at fault. She can't play any BS about him being abusive or make up any stories retrospectively. He forced her on the defensive and set frame.

This is why men usually get ass raped legally by women. If you let the woman set the narrative and get her story out, she will spin it for her favor and make herself the victim, and everyone will naturally side with her.

But now? Even her own parents can't side with her without looking like utter dipshits.

[–]SonterLord 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The hardest next I've ever seen. Took her fucking passport. I love it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I love how the columnist and half the commenters completely ignore the fact that she misrepresented her condition/status prior to the marriage. I.e. she committed fraud/false advertising.

The guy opened the package and realized he had purchased used goods and is now returning them.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 5 points6 points  (1 child)

and the only text he answered was one where I suggested couples' counseling. He said he's not the one fantasizing about an old flame on our wedding night.

It's amazing the faith people place in couples counseling.

Couples counselors, aka professional desire negotiators.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How could one even "recover" after that, counseling or no? The wedding night and memories of the day are forever ruined. You cant build a castle on that kind of foundation

[–]Lashlarue123 4 points4 points [recovered]

"Vicious" - why was he so mean to me waaah

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He should have congratulated himself on being such a massive cuck. ;_; muh soggy knees111!111

[–]moose_war 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You know, a lot of men could learn from this guy.

Most guys are so thirsty and blue pilled that they'll give their GIRLFRIEND a second or third chance for cheating.

1 strike and you're out.

[–]TheDialecticParadox 4 points5 points  (0 children)

BPers are being unplugged by careless alpha widows as we speak

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

For the record, there's some kid in this comments thread on the husbands side with the name Vajazzlemcdildertits.

I fucking love the internet.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I would love if we could keep the words "red pill" to describe people who have discovered the truth about our society (feminine imperative, blue pill conditioning..), women (hypergamy, solipsism..) and what to do to get on top (lift, increase SMV, dread game, shit tests...), instead of describing men who got wronged by a woman.

It's like the post the other day about the man who "became a redpiller" according to OP when his girlfriend dumped him... only to discover he actually left his study and spent his savings to go get her back.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

instead of describing men who got wronged by a woman

You don't consider a guy getting married, having bought the whole BP schtick down to waiting for sex... then cold NEXTING her on her marriage night after getting slapped with reality and then taking the first dose of RP not a valid demonstration of the flair, Blue Pill Example?

It literally encompasses almost every tenet in here.

She was a alpha cock widow.

She was CCing up to now, now she made this guy that she says, she knew was the one, wait for sex, a shit test.

Then calls out Chad T's name on the VERY FUCKING NIGHT that he was finally going to get his reward for waiting for the golden pussy.

That was a damn BP chrysalis to RP in the span of hours. It was beautiful, like a butterfly.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you're confusing BP with Beta and RP with alpha. There are alpha men who are still unplugged (BP). There are many newly unplugged who are still beta.

Why is this important? Because passing a comfort test is a beta trait, but knowing what a comfort test is in the first place needs you to have taken the red pill. Because hard nexting a cheating wife is an alpha move, but if the now cuckold man remarries, it demonstrates he is still plugged in

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 16 points17 points  (5 children)

No female, not even a female relative, or even your wife should have access or know the whereabouts of the location of vital documentation such as your passport. Because if she takes it, you can't use the justifiable force necessary to get it back without the popos coming for you (Imagine a foreign prison). You could be landlocked in a country for over a month before you can renew it.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Not so sure about that.

I got tossed in a jail in Jamaica once. Only thing that got me out was a female who knew where my money and my documents were.

Its a risk for sure, but it all depends on how much you trust the individual.

If I had a bro with me he would have been in charge of that stuff, but I didn't so I had to have some sort of backup plan.

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[–]ComradeCynic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She had the long con, marriage to OTB, the One True Beta, all arranged. Then, after sneaking past the security guards, disabling the alarm system, and getting the safe open - she realized that she locked her car with the keys inside.

This guy's anger is righteous, true, and incandescent... and it burns with the bright flame of JUSTICE!

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

MOAR Blue Pill posts , plz !!!

This is the stuff of nightmares that makes TRP a flame to all our moths.

Can never have enough Blue Pill example posts.

[–]ProudTexan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fantastic! Well done good man well done!

[–]Endorsed Contributornyrp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His commitment to you -- as a human being, vs. as a bride or presumed virgin -- can't have been deep.

He made big promises about your fake virginity and he oughta stick to it!!!!!

[–]1edwardhwhite 2 points3 points  (0 children)

as if the guy has no rights, no emotions, no needs that need to be met. So shitty.

[–]Bakkie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cheesh. Sounds like a guy I knew, Bobby Baratheon or something.

[–]choicemeats 3 points3 points [recovered]

The best part is when he took her passport. oooo kill em.

[–]BleauGumms 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your honeymoon and marriage are in tatters because Tom reacted with absolutely stunning hostility to a quirk of the human brain.

Nevermind fellas! It was merely a brain quirk!

[–]1sardinemanR 6 points7 points  (0 children)

lol that's why I always laugh even on here when people say "oh who cares about sexual history?"

If N=1 even, unless the guy died or something, she is permanently damaged. She can never be anything other than a plate.

Past civilizations understood this, and men refused to marry sluts, there was only plate spinning or nothing. Modern men are mostly beta losers, and you still see some of it even on this sub, justifying worthless women and thinking they are unicorns that will be great for LTR or marriage.

Only marry a virgin. But probably you can't find one. So don't get married. The end. This dude is more RP than most people on here actually.

[–]MagicGainbow 3 points4 points  (1 child)

By telling his parents he's made a smart move, they will not let him forget, no turning back now, telling hers he's ensured that they won't bother trying to fix things.

[–]Flaye2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While this story is not surprising at all, I'm glad we get to see a happy ending.

The guy was BP in the beginning, but his decisions later on were crisp and on point. Hope he has a good vacation.

[–]chadchadington 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We should remind ourselves occasionally that marriage vs cohabitation is not too different, save for the State recognizing the union.

Let's not forget that many states today have cohabitation laws that may award your live-in GF cash/prizes if one is not too careful.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, she makes him wait until they are married and then when he finally gets to try out that second hand snatch she cries out the name of a previous lover.

Did she try to convince him she was a virgin?

This is probably worse than being cuckholded. He's got blue balls for months and months waiting on his girl to give it up to him and thinking she's waited all her life to give it up to him. He thinks he's got a fucking Unicorn, but instead it's just a worn out wooden horse on the cock carousel.

I'm frankly amazed that he broke it off. Having invested so much time and money and effort to suddenly scrap the whole thing because wifey was dreaming of Chad Thundercock while he exercised his nuptial rights is pretty ballsy.

I'm not sure a lot of betas could have done it so mad props to him.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The best fucking part are all the TRP comments I see coming in to that article now.

There should be a Red Pill DEAR ABBY in the main press but I wont hold my breath

[–]manwhowouldbeking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This glimpse of his true character is a gift. Accept it and annul the marriage. I agree if my wife whispers out some other dudes name as we are about to have our first sexual experince as a married couple i am going to get out of dodge. Fuck that freudian slip. Annulments are a lot cheaper than divorce.

[–]herewegoaga1n 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahaha! Holy shit. This is priceless. Good on him not putting up with that. He dodged a slutty, slutty bullet. Oh god my sides!

[–]1jimjackjoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

seems like the original article is fiction, something's a bit off about the writing style. nonetheless, good post.

[–]NikoMyshkin 2 points2 points [recovered]

It stuns me that she seems incapable of understanding how badly - how inhumanly - she treated her husband-to-be.

She still can't fuckin get why she treated him like utter shit!

I have no words, just wow.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Stuns you? Her hamster is powering half of Europe right now. Can't you hear the wheels spinning?

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Notice how after she had given away her sexuality for free to "Rick", she required full commitment from her BB husband-to-be before he gets any of her goodies.

She used to give away gourmet meals for free, but now wants to charge triple price for week-old leftovers.

[–]gymgoer205 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Came in expecting BP bitch to take her back. Leaving satisfied

[–]bakbakgoesherthroat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He doesn't sound like an rp man, just a regular person with hurt feelings.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have found---and this is a large reason I no longer actively try and educate men outside of this community---that men only learn, and I mean truly learn, when they fail, and fail hard.

It's not just one rejection, it's countless rejections. It's your wife cheating on you on your honeymoon. Its calling out "Rick".

Men need failure to grow and this is true in all aspects of life.

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