Red Pill TheoryHow Many Corpses Do You Need To See? (self.TheRedPill)

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Everyday The Red Pill shows you a fresh corpse. Sometimes its a man who's been reduced to a wage slavery by divorce. Sometimes it's a man who's career has been destroyed by the cult of political correctness. Sometimes its the victim of a false rape accusation. Very frequently it's a man who gave everything and was rewarded with front row tickets to his wife's sperm buffet extravaganza.

I call these men corpses because they are shadows of their former selves. They walk without meaning or purpose, engage in little thought and for the most part spend their lives doing what they are told. These men have been fucked so hard, they no longer value themselves. They don't believe they have the power to shape their destiny and have resigned themselves to accepting whatever fate they are dealt. Our world is filled with these men. You don't have to look far to find them because they are all around you.

Why are there so many corpses? Because men are disposable. They always have been and always will be. In the same way that Rome had no problem randomly killing every tenth man in the legion to promote discipline, modern corporations have no problem sacrificing men to promote feminist values in the workplace. The well being of men has always come in second place to society's objectives. There are more than enough mangled bodies buried in the earth to substantiate this fact.

Life isn't fair, especially if you have a penis. So what you need to understand as a man, is that you are under no obligation to play by the rules of the people who view you as an acceptable loss.

Is it wrong to emotionally and psychologically manipulate women? Maybe. But the media has no problem convincing your girlfriend to abandon you and ride a parade of baloney ponies until she finds herself. If you don't control her mind someone else will. If you don't engage in psychological puppetry, she will follow her tingles onto another man's sausage.

Is it wrong to cheat your way through placement tests and university? Probably. It certainly undermines the spirit of academia. But at the same time graduate schools have no problem throwing meritocracy out the window in favor of diversity. Its definitely in your interest to do anything in your power to win a rigged game.

Is it wrong to transfer all of you assets to a Lithuanian bank and move to Thailand to avoid the financial catastrophe that is American divorce? Certainly. But the system does not give a fuck about you and you should not give a fuck about the system.

There are many men out there who are going to disagree with my philosophy. My question for them is: how many corpses do you need to see, before you decide to save yourself? There are piles of nice guy corpses. There are mounds of easy going unassertive corpses. There are mountains of moral men who did the right thing and ended up in the heap. How many corpses do you need to see before you decide not to become a corpse?

Obviously my argument isn't going to convince everyone. I'd actually like to thank those of you who are unconvinced, the stubborn, moral, high minded intellectuals who are too good to push women and children out of life rafts. Thank you. Thank you for your sacrifice. Maybe I can use your salty frozen corpse to persuade other men not to become a corpse.

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[–][deleted] 73 points74 points  (5 children)

People don't get it. It's not enough to deliver something of value in this world. It's important have a set of skills or some useful knowledge or whatever it is that you're going to contribute to society, but that's not enough. You have to know your worth. This world will swallow you whole if you aren't able to set your price and stick to it.

You're a nice guy with an equally nice bank account? See how fast people run from you when you cut them off. Emotional tampon/beta orbiter for that really cute girl you like? See how fast she drops your ass when you call her out on how one sided your relationship is. Everyone will take advantage of you if you allow them. And why wouldn't they? It's common sense. If something is free, why pay for it? Know your worth and demand respect.

[–]alpha_buffalo 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Assuming by your name, ur a '93 born, you have done well to realize this early.

[–]tremolo24 161 points162 points  (89 children)

Morals are a biological trait of humans, guidelines for groups of people how to behave. In earlier times this was essential for communities to function properly. As a consequence of this, acting with morals was rewarded with higher status.

Nowadays we still have these morals intuitively. But they don't apply anymore because our communities are too large and impersonal. All of our intuitions are based on millions of years of living in small communities where everyone knew each other. Our biological wiring also isn't adjusted to all new forms of instant gratification. The result: a lot of people only interested in fulfilling their immediate needs, a very impersonal society, people not taking time to really think about anything except what to say to impress their peers.

In such a society, you could try to be the moral white knight and impress everyone with your morals and great ideas. But what will it ever bring you? It's not like there will be many people respecting you, or thinking about you for that mattter. They are preoccupied with themselves, as should you be. Focus on your skills: where you are good at but also the superficial skills necessary: presenting yourself, lying, small talking with 'shallow' people. Keep the morals for your immediate social circles.

Cheers and thanks for the great post!

[–]2comment 139 points140 points  (24 children)

I live by the code "No good deed goes unpunished" outside of family and really close friends because of this dynamic.

There will be instances where doing the so-called right thing will be worth it. They're very rare. I know a guy who was in the Soviet Army in the late 70s to mid-80s. There was an very high-up politician visiting where they were fighting in the time and he decided to go near the front lines with a helicopter. Some unexpected attack occurred, the soldier basically pushed him down and got in front and took a bullet for him and still helped fend off the attack. Even though the soldier should have gone to a medic first, bleeding as he was, he instead went on the chopper to man one of the guns and made sure he got the man back to safety. The two became friends and he got promotions pretty fast and when he went back to civilian life, the politician helped get him into Parliament and was his life long political patron. I got to know the guy as a client in the early 00s and he became very rich and influential from basically that one act.

But it requires honor and integrity on part of the recipient. Them being in a good position to give back is a major factor too. Showing kindness to a bum might just land a homeless man on your couch if you can't say no.

99 times out of 100 it's more like this. My white knight friend saw a woman struggling to change a tire on her car on the side of the highway. He stops to help her, gets hit by a careless driver not paying attention. He basically took the hit she would have gotten. She was very grateful when he stopped and did a big to do when he was hit and called 911, blah blah blah. He becomes paralyzed waist down and the woman doesn't even visit him in the hospital, a card, nothing. Just went on with her life.

His utility to her ended. Putting any effort in after that would be a waste of time and effort and probably seeing him would give her guilt she'd rather not deal with. That's the mentality of a lot of people. They'd rather stick in 10x, 100x, 1000x more effort trying to get back at someone that slighted them in some way in the past, than help someone who helped them, once their utility is gone. It's an extremely common attitude in the west too.

Edit: clarity

[–]Endorsed ContributorScholarInRed 41 points42 points  (2 children)

But it requires honor and integrity on part of the recipient.

This. This is the reason the above is such a relevant and compelling post. Those two qualities are nigh extinct these days, and waving them openly is asking to be abused for having them.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Sad, but undoubtedly incontrovertibly true.

[–]BoTuLoX 86 points87 points  (1 child)

He becomes paralyzed waist down and the woman doesn't even visit him in the hospital, a card, nothing. Just went on with her life.

Hello rage phase my old friend.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I have plenty of examples here

Guy goes to Iraq and gets ambushed looses his best friend and is wounded comes home to find his wife fucking some officer on base

Friend of mine is dating a girl, does everything she wants, he is older so after college he moves to a city one hour from the college until she graduates they plan on dating long distance (only an hour). By the middle of summer she drops him hard as fuck after a year because "he isn't there for her". Shortly there after he hurts himself in a swimming accident, paralyzed from the armpits down, she hasn't even asked anyone about his condition.

It just goes on and on, it's no surprise some guys just stay angry

[–]kalstate 25 points26 points  (9 children)

They'd rather stick in 10x, 100x, 1000x more effort trying to get back at someone that slighted them in some way in the past, than help someone who helped them, once their utility is gone.

I've seen this. It's very frustrating indeed. I've seen it worse. You help a guy/gal out, and serve them to the best of your ability and talent. Then once they think they've got everything they can from you, they treat you like shit. It's baffling. I used to take it personally, trying to figure out what I did wrong--always thinking it was my fault and that I must be damaged. Now, I realize, nope--they are just plain fucking psychopaths. Now that I know a lot of people are monsters, it doesn't bother me when they lash out their wicked tongues about me. It's not me. I don't have to feel like a bad person. It's them..

[–]redpill-visceral 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Law Of Power 13: When Asking for Help Appeal to People's Self-Interest Never To Their Mercy or Gratitude

[–]Sir_Shitlord_focker 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Actually it's a well known psychological format called the Karpman drama triangle. It's science telling you to never get involved: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle

[–]kalstate 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Thanks! I haven't seen this before, but it just might fit some situations I've experienced..

[–]Sir_Shitlord_focker 1 point2 points  (3 children)

every conversation in your life that start by "Do you know what X did/said to me?" and ended badly.

[–]kalstate 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yep, I experienced an epic personal disaster trying to help out co-workers that were complaining about someone else. Talk about a 1-shot learning paradigm. I will never get involved with someone's complaining about someone else again, except to say "good luck"

[–]magus678 17 points18 points  (57 children)

Good post.

I will, however, point out that the post is itself somewhat guilty of its own criticism: why be moral when there is no benefit to be gained?

If no one is there to witness good work and assign you value from it, why do it at all?

I would say some of us do the "right" thing because of a value system we choose. While I can understand that you must guard your energy against parasites, there are those that may deserve your consideration, and sometimes those same people are going to give you nothing in return. This is OK.

It is my view that we are all, to an extent, born into a bit of debt to our ancestors. Our world was forged, bit by bit, by men trying to leave the world slightly better than they found it. You honor them, and yourself, by continuing the tradition.

This can mean many things, and can be accomplished any number of ways. But I think it is important to make the distinction that it isn't always a bad idea to treat a stranger as a friend (or sometimes even the contrary).

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 27 points28 points  (24 children)

Our world was forged, bit by bit, by men trying to leave the world slightly better than they found it.

Our world was forged by societies which set up the rules such that men who left the world better than they found it got rewarded for their efforts.

Our society abandoned those rules, and as such it's men no longer make those efforts.

[–]1Dark-Ulfberht 33 points34 points  (15 children)

Our society abandoned those rules, and as such it's men no longer make those efforts.

This, right here, is the real meat of the matter.

I've done a lot of thinking lately about religion. I'm very non-religious, and have poked fun at how silly people can be when it comes to their faith. Religion is an easy target.

However, more recently I have begun to change my views on the matter. Certainly, I have no more belief in any spiritual nonsense than I did before. However, what I have come to realize is that religion provides people with a baseline worldview; few humans can craft their own, and fewer still choose to do so even if they have the capacity.

Why is this important?

It matters because a shared worldview, and the assumptions that come with it, forms the basis for societal structure. A shared worldview will build a healthy society if it is well-aligned with reality such that it, as you say, generally rewards those who build society, neglects those who don't, and punishes those who detract from it. Those shared worldviews which are antithetical to the above do not allow strong societies to form, and if they form within existing civilizations, will cause rot from within until the either the cancer is exised or the host dies.

Many of us have been under the illusion that if religion is removed, that surely logic and reason shall reign. But that is not how humans work. Religion is never removed; it is just replaced. Thus, whereas our society was previously indoctrinated with Judeo-Christian assumptions and values, it is now indoctrinated with those of an emergent Leftist tradition.

Make no mistake: neither is based in reality. However, one is surely better for the development of a healthy society than the other.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 38 points39 points  (6 children)

I too am an atheist who sees a secular society as a horrible thing. In fact, I've posted on this before:

Feminism isn't even the problem, it's a symptom of the problem. The root of feminism is the belief in equality, which again is a symptom. You'll chase it down to the actual root: a secular successful society.

Successful societies have a surplus of survival resources. This causes stupidity to not be as harshly punished and allows beliefs which don't work well to rise: namely the beliefs in liberalism and equality (we're all equal, what we do doesn't matter!).

Secularism changes peoples decision makings from religious to individual. People become less concerned with the whole and more concerned with themselves. Not only does religion change the decision affect timeline from ones life to include one's afterlife, religion also works as "natural law for dummies" and keeps the masses behaving in ways which benefit society.

A secular struggling society won't have the excess resources to allow stupidity to not be punished. A religious successful society will stay in order and strong due to the influences of religion on the society. but when you get a secular successful society, stupidity is no longer punished and religion is not there to keep the masses in line advancing society: this leads to what we have today.

ETA: and no, I'm not religious. I'm smart enough to have figured out what needs to be done to advance society. The problem is that the smarts to do that take above average intelligence and more than half of society is below that level of smarts. When you give that group equal influence over society due to "equality", well.....

However, what I have come to realize is that religion provides people with a baseline worldview

And this is the biggest key. There is a difference between Country and a Nation. A country is a group of people in a geographic region bound by common laws, while a Nation is a group of people in a geographic region bound by common beliefs. Religion is the most common supplier of those common beliefs. Without those common beliefs a Country will tear itself apart by forming mini-nations within the Country which are competing against each other for a part of the Country's pie.

[–]1Dark-Ulfberht 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You and I see things almost the exact same way.

I have said before that Westerners currently live in a bubble that shields people from the natural consequences of theiron actions. Such a state of affairs causes all sorts of problems, many of which you named. Ultimately, when a society goes far enough down the rabbit hole, there is no easy way to go back. Like a drug fiend, those who live in the realm of fantasy can only be pulled out through major upheaval.

[–]1trpposter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The root of feminism is the belief in equality

Nope. The root of feminism is female supremacy. They're horrified by equality; VAWA, Duluth Model, White Feather Movement etc.

[–]surfjihad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That was the single most insightful Comment I read all day today on Reddit. Thank you

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Interesting post, thanks for the thoughts

I'm smart enough to have figured out what needs to be done to advance society. The problem is that the smarts to do that take above average intelligence and more than half of society is below that level of smarts.

I think you'll appreciate this



[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes, you take care of your tribe to take care of you. The biological "altruism" is taking care of others in your tribe who can take care of you when you are down on your luck.

But it requires a tribe. A mini-nation, so to speak (or even a full nation if you truly have a Nation). Unfortunately, multiculturalism has destroyed any inkling that we could be a Nation rather than a Country.

It's also a bit more interesting in humans. We support memes almost as much as we do DNA. Pick up the "The Lucifer Principle" series by Howard Bloom to learn a bit more about that.

[–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

IMO these days even things like TRP are a type of 'tribe' having a shared ideology/menatality and (often) goals. I guess you could also call hipsters, emos and other groups, 'tribes', and I sure know back in my day, punk was pretty tribal!

IMO In this interconnected world, we don't require the physical contact of the past to form 'a tribe'

Pick up the "The Lucifer Principle" series by Howard Bloom to learn a bit more about that.

sounds interesting, thanks

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Religion tricks the 'us vs them' instinct into believing that guy a 100 miles away that you've never met who's also the follower of the same religion is your friend, one of 'us'.

Like the top comment said, our society has grown too big beyond the 150 people nomadic tribe dynamic we've evolved with to allow you to share empathy, we humans don't have enough mental energy for it.

[–]Hypocrite_Redditor 7 points7 points [recovered]

As depressing as this digression sounds, we're all forgetting the basic human condition, which is that we're all born from the same consciousness and motivation. The only difference between humans is the chemicals in our brain, and other physical factors that affect our perception of reality. Religion is no longer necessary to have empathy for our fellow man and beast. The cynics here should realize that there is a fundamental connection between all life. Many people are opening up to embracing others rather than seeing them as competition. As a human race we are reaching a point where the most intelligent are realizing that they have a choice to either a)better the world with good actions no matter the consequence or b)be selfish and take actions that are self-benefitting. I believe that a) can be aligned with many red pill values such as MGTOW and SMV, which in turn will lead to sexual success, albeit with much more patience.

Edit: Also, a lot of "human nature" comes from unintelligent and uneducated people. Human nature is more aligned with natural instinct, which can be demonstrably overrided with proper education.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Religion is no longer necessary to have empathy for our fellow man and beast.

No, it's not. It really never was. But a common belief set is necessary. And it just so happens that religion was the easiest way to get a common belief set among a large group of people.

If I'm a believer in raising children in way X, I'm not going to have much empathy for those who raise children in the "fucked up" way Y. Nor are those who raise children in way Y going to have much empathy for me who raised children in "fucked up" way X.

Also, a lot of "human nature" comes from unintelligent and uneducated people.

Bullshit. You'll watch the smart people behave exactly the same way, just with "more enlightened" reasons for how they behave. They still chase carrots and run from sticks, they just have different carrots and sticks.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agree totally. The average prehistoric human evolved in a situation where he saw maybe 100-200 people HIS ENTIRE LIFE.

I see that many several times a day.

The friend/foe function of the brain was overwhelmed and thats contributed to the fucked up state of society.

[–]kaspell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This mirrors the position I've been creeping towards lately. Well articulated.

[–]RunawayBear 10 points10 points [recovered]

While I try very hard to avoid sweeping generalizations, there is a significant amount of truth (at least as it appears to me personally) in your statement D. The only way social reward is earned (the US is my only reference) today is through monetary reward, not loyalty, integrity or honor.

I work hard to obtain my money, but I do most of my real work on the inside (Martial Arts, meditation, yoga, etc). I put all those around me to the test of their integrity and those who fail are jettisoned from my world. Period, no exceptions. I thank TRP in part for my changed worldview, and accordingly I have become less and less interested in falling into the trap of giving two shits about women and what they think, care or feel (aside from my mother of course, who is part of the rare breed of honorable and loyal women, i.e., saints)

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 18 points19 points  (2 children)

While I try very hard to avoid sweeping generalizations, there is a significant amount of truth (at least as it appears to me personally) in your statement D.

Human nature is human nature. We're not going to change it.

We can either set up society recognizing these natures and figuring out how to have a working society in light of them (conservatism) or we can pretend that they don't exist and watch those natures tear us down (liberalism).

It's a cycle that's gone on and on and on. Society is set up in "restrictive" ways and we become successful, then question whether we need those restrictions. We figure we don't, so we abandon them, and as we collapse we figure out why they were set up so in the first place.

People imagine that we can just "get past" racism, or sexism, or tribalism, or hypergamy, or greed, or whatever human nature prevents their utopia. We can't. We have to set up society such that those drives benefit society as a whole rather than just the individual at society's detriment.

There is no utopia. We can't change human nature, only tap it for society's benefit. And today we're letting it run amok with barely any restrictions, which will lead to our decline and eventual collapse.

[–]trphardmode 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is essentially the crux of r/K selection theory

[–]RemyPrice 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Integrity is the huge test in my world, as well.

Stand me up once, and it will be the last time.

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[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The Fate of Empires. That should be required reading in high school, along with a few other PC destroying books I know.

[–]Hypocrite_Redditor 6 points6 points [recovered]

The golden rule: Treat others how you would want to be treated. Doesn't always apply in every situation but if more people were on board, the world would be a much better place. Just because things can be bad doesn't mean we can't improve them. Saying that we can't improve the world through better actions is like saying we can't get stronger through lifting weights!

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Treat others how you would want to be treated. ... if more people were on board

And that's the problem. Most people say this, but are not genuinely on board with it. It's more something that they try to impose on others than genuinely live by themselves. There are exceptions, but you shouldn't expect people to be like this by default. Especially women.

[–]Hypocrite_Redditor 6 points6 points [recovered]

Well I'm perfectly happy living by it. It's easy to avoid manipulative people and find those that deserve proper treatment. No need to be a dickhead just because other people get away with it.

[–]Vay93 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yeah, some people like getting treated like shit. "Treatment" is relative. So for those people, why would I want them to treat me that way if I want to be treated differently?

Treat others how you would want to be treated

Caveat: Once you learn how they treat others and how they want to be treated, treat accordingly.

[–]trphardmode 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Saying that we can't improve the world through better actions is like saying we can't get stronger through lifting weights!

No it's more like saying we can't get stronger by doing pinky curls, which you can't.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 10 points11 points  (17 children)

It is my view that we are all, to an extent, born into a bit of debt to our ancestors. Our world was forged, bit by bit, by men trying to leave the world slightly better than they found it. You honor them, and yourself, by continuing the tradition.

The world was forged by men who were trying to get paid. No one does shit for free. You need to eat. You need a roof over your head. You want to earn yourself some pussy. Me me ME. It's about being selfish, wanting good things for your own life. Those that can't earn a paycheck will rob a bank... or a liquor store. The motivation is exactly the same: I want to get paid.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Selfishness can be harnessed to benefit society with a free market. You can't make tons of money without providing something society wants.

"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." - Adam Smith

[–]interestedplayer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can't, except when you can. By robbery. Well, you will say, but robbery is illegal, you will land in jail and stop...

Not when its the goverment robbing you. That is the genius of communism. It takes robbery, gives it into the hands of the goverment and then makes people think its for THEIR BEST.

[–]RPmatrix 5 points6 points  (5 children)


Practicing love and kindness to others actually benefits you, your family, your social network, and your community at large. Even if you are feeling ‘selfish’, behaving selflessly may be the wisest ‘self-serving’ thing to do. If you want to have a competitive advantage in the long-run, science confirms that altruism, compassion and cooperation are all key ingredients for your success.

2012 was a hallmark year for scientific progress in understanding the evolutionary biology behind altruism, compassion and the importance of community. Neuroscientists have made huge progress in understanding our “social brain” which consists of structures and circuits that help us understand one anothers' intentions, beliefs, desires, and how to behave appropriately.

e.g Sam Harris esp with books like "The Moral Landscape" etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Harris

Back to the link:

In this entry, I will connect the dots between all of this research and create a timeline that will hopefully be a resource as we try to find ways to create more loving-kindness in our society and less violence and bloodshed

  • The Evolutionary Biology of Altruism

In 1975, Harvard biologist E. O. Wilson published Sociobiology, which was viewed by most people at the time to be the most important evolutionary theory since On the Origin of Species. Darwin’s theory of Natural Selection and the “survival of the fittest” implied a machiavellian world in which individuals clawed their way to the top.

Wilson offered a new perspective which was that certain types of social behaviors— including altruism—are often genetically programmed into a species to help them survive.

In the context of Darwin’s theory of 'every man for himself' Natural Selection, this kind of selflessness or altruism did not compute.

E.O. Wilson resolved the paradox with a ‘one for all and all for one’ theory called “kin selection”.

According to the kin selection theory, altruistic individuals would prevail because the genes that they shared with kin would be passed on.

Since the whole clan is included in the genetic victory of a few, the phenomenon of beneficial altruism came to be known as “inclusive fitness.” By the 1990s this had become a core concept of biology, sociology, even pop psychology.


edit: for clarity

[–]magus678 1 point2 points  (4 children)

As often as I hear TRP proclaim to face hard truths, (which I will say is usually accurate) it absolutely has its own hamster.

This is science worth noting from a man of note, yet it has downvotes and no comments. Good post, regardless.

[–]magus678 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Certainly selfishness is a driving factor (and good thing), but to pretend it is the only one is ridiculous. An absolutely selfish society never would have made it this far.

Not to say absolutely selfish people can't exist and thrive in the world, just that generally speaking their mindset wouldn't have created what they are taking advantage of.

The most selfish people are very rarely the most able.

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 4 points5 points  (5 children)

A selfish society never would have made it this far.

That may be, but what obligation do we as men have to a society that sees us as disposable? Would we not be better off taking advantage of the selflessness of others than having our own be taken advantage of? Few are those that even realize that there's an advantage to be taken, so wouldn't it be foolish to let that well sit untapped?

[–]magus678 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Note what I said was an absolutely selfish society wouldn't have made it this far. You managed to misquote me.

There is nothing wrong with self interest. It simply shouldn't be the only guidepost.

A society completely unselfish wouldn't have made it this far, either.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I think ego is another motivating factor. Tesla is a billionaire so he does like making money but i think he sees his company as his baby and every invention another way to make it stronger. Every product keeps it growing, with profit but also pride at having his name everywhere. Its why people put their names on schools and buildings.

[–]BruceIsTheBatman 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I will, however, point out that the post is itself somewhat guilty of its own criticism: why be moral when there is no benefit to be gained?

Because your entire world relies upon how much you respect yourself, and your actions values, and dedication to this determine this self-respect, which affects and your confidence and outlook on life. You can be that person who only does things when there is personal gain while sacrificing nobility, but you will always know you are second rate to those men who act out of their highest sense of respect in all things.

[–]magus678 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure if you meant this reply for me or not. The quoted part is referencing the post above; my own post says something along the lines of yours

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact is, there is still something MORAL to do.

It's just not being done to us.

[–]1grubek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You make a great point on why we have morals. But morals are still useful in your group of friends (your tribe). The problem is today anyone with a microphone tries to yell you how you should behave "for your own good". They try to have you identified with a bigger more abstract group and force certain morals on you. Nationalism, patriotism, identity politics (left vs right), etc... all the same shit. If you have not spent time with some people you are not part of that group no matter how many times you see them on TV.

[–]TheQuestion78 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like how you describe the evolution of morals. For me, the question of "what will be moral ever bring you" is irrelevant. I do my best to do good for its own sake and I realize that many others do not walk such a path (making me a realist). I never use my sense of morality or generosity to get laid though because (unlike the blue pillers) I know that it does nothing but ensuring you get taken advantaged of. That is why I have a problem with the whole "nice guy" thing too. You shouldn't be "nice" because you think some woman will appreciate it and open up her vagina for you. There is no reality where that would ever happen. You need to be nice for its own sake, but keep it on reserve in the realm of relationships because it will always lead you to disappointment and misery.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 68 points69 points  (14 children)

EDIT: Turned this into a submission "You need to see all the past, present, and future corpses"

How many corpses?

All of them, all the old ones, and all the new ones too, and even the old ones that became corpses before our grandfathers were born.

We need to keep seeing them throughout our life, especially the most mangled ones. Why? Because society is constantly trying to trick us into being the workhorse - keeping our heads down and generating excess resources for women and children and shaming us into being providers. We need to remind ourselves that we aren't slaves.

We need to be reminded that:

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Holy fuck all the links you posted are amazing.

[–]TestosteroneFilled 11 points12 points  (3 children)

This should be a separate post. Even though it's all info that's already in TRP, seeing it like this combined makes a few things tick, if it hadn't already

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Good idea, I just made it a submission and added some items that I forgot, though honestly there's no limit to the amount of material out there.

Edit: Odd, my submission got downvoted to hell.

Edit 2: Better now.

[–]kalstate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

maybe they're here...spooky. (seriously though, thanks for re-posting it, otherwise I wouldn't have seen it. my eyes are opening evermore..thanks)

[–]TheRealMouseRat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

sounds more like you're advocating for MGTOW than normal RedPill philosophy here, but good post nevertheless.

[–]LegSnapper206 71 points72 points  (2 children)

I almost turned into a corpse by someone who cold heartedly threw me in the garbage without a single spec of hesitation. This fucking world. These fucking people. If its a game they want...im good at those.

[–]Ripsaw1990 3 points4 points  (0 children)

:D can't stop smiling after reading this, so poetic. Thank you for the inspiration

[–]-rubashov 34 points35 points  (63 children)

I couldn't agree more. This world is rigged and we need to take every advantage we can get.

I'm curious what RP themed life hacks are there out for the budding immoralist?

  • Steroids
  • Cheating (academic/career/relationship)
  • Tax Dodging

What else?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 52 points53 points  (6 children)

  • Selling Viagra in college to all of the limp dick masturbators, alcoholics, coke snorters and cigarette smokers.

  • Become a Slut Cattle Trader. Bring sluts to thirsty dudes parties and mooch their law school outlines.

  • Dress your girlfriend up in Slutty costumes from yandy.com, cementing her belief that she is your slut. Its the Stanford Prision experiment with blowjobs.

  • Help seventeen and ninteen year old boys on Skype in any way you can. Speak to them with respect and honesty. Giggle from the sidelines when they attack your opposition like rabid dogs.

  • Use a bit of bronzer to highlight your abs before you go shirtless clubbing

[–]Jigsus 15 points16 points  (4 children)

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Don't forget the Ab Enhancer.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol The dude in the top RH "ab enhancer" picture is (was?) the Mayor of Geelong a regional city in my state

Those are implants on him! He's quite open about it!

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A bit of bronzer. Bronzer isnt a miracle drug lol.

[–]ChadThundercockII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

GayLubeOil, you would be proud of me. I just graduated college. Some of my friends got the make-up exam. Guess who got them all to graduate ? Yes, me.

[–]dennislang 10 points11 points  (9 children)


Be 'amoral' not 'immoral'. TRP is about not letting arbitrary socially constructed rules stand in your way, not about being a 'bad' guy for the sake of it.

[–]Elodrian 28 points29 points  (8 children)

It's not possible for people to "be amoral". Theories are amoral. Actions are not. Your actions will be either moral or immoral. For example: post-Machiavelli, political science became amoral. Instead of a political philosophy discussing how states ought to be constituted, the focus of the discussion turned to "Those are your goals? Here's how to attain them." It was no longer a question of what you should do, but an analysis of how to accomplish your ends. That is an amoral science. Putting that advice into practice, however, will be moral or immoral depending on what your ends are.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Astute and absolutely correct. I hope your post here receives the attention it deserves.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It's not possible for people to "be amoral". Theories are amoral. Actions are not.

I do not agree.

Please explain the morality involved in say, an activity like rock climbing, sewing or gardening for example?

I could add dozens of other activities/actions

Buddhism is a theory or "belief system" based upon "morally appropriate actions" aka "Right behavior and thinking" for starters

I guess you'd call the Dalai Lama a blue pill beta pussy for his beliefs and behaviors too ... as from your first statement, it is "not possible for people to be amoral" or, ergo sum, they cannot be "moral" either!

That's simply poorly thought out, bullshit, no "if's, buts or maybe's"

[–]Jigsus 9 points10 points  (45 children)

Steroids will shrink your balls and fuck up your heart.

[–]-rubashov 6 points7 points  (41 children)

Better not check my post history then Rufus

[–]Jigsus 28 points29 points  (40 children)

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I have no problems with steroids I just think that unless you are a professional athlete, bodybuilder or actor; you are an idiot for taking steroids because they are a waste of money. If you are not making any income from the steroids there is no point in taking them because I guarantee that most guys natty limit is good enough for girls and everything above that is only for other men. Now if you are on the end of the spectrum and have shit genetics or you are 50+ and produce no hormones, then yeah I'm all for you taking test. Otherwise; huge waste of money that would be better spent on nice clothes or food.

[–]Kolbykilla 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yep totally agree, unless your competing or earning money from steroid use zero reason to take them. Girls will go goo goo over a well built natty figure.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The USCF study was done on Anavar (oxandrolone), an oral steroid. Oral steroids are known for being hard on your liver and Anavar in particular is known for messing up your lipids. Shooting up straight testosterone is not nearly as hard on your liver or lipids.

The next two articles deal with Left Ventricular Hypertrophy (LVH). It's a known risk for using steroids, however even natty lifting will increase your risk for LVH.

Steroids shrink your balls for sure, but so what? It is not a big deal really. Your girlfriend might think it's a bit weird when she sucks on them, otherwise it won't really impact your life. You'll also not need to do as much "manspreading".

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brother Banana is correct

Left Ventricular Hypertrophy

Here are same Facts about steroid use and LVH:


Anabolic steroid abuse in athletes has been associated with a wide range of adverse conditions, including hypogonadism, testicular atrophy, impaired spermatogenesis, gynaecomastia, and psychiatric disturbance. But what effect does steroid abuse have on the cardiovascular system?

and further down:


Given these putative effects of steroid hormones (and AAS in particular) on LV growth, we might expect exposure to exogenously administered steroid hormones to be associated with an exaggerated LV hypertrophic response to any other hypertrophic stimulus.

Exercise is just such a potent cardiac hypertrophic stimulus.4,8,9 Meanwhile, athletes are increasingly exposing themselves to supra-physiological doses of AAS. These are known to increase skeletal muscle mass and strength7—effects which form the basis for their administration to enhance athletic performance.

A variety of AAS are often taken simultaneously (so called “stacking”), and in doses which result in 10–100 fold increases in androgen concentrations.7 Administration regimens usually involve a 6–12 week cycle and are often administered in a “pyramidal” fashion, with doses tapering from low to high to low.10 Abused substances include testosterone, its 17-β esters, and those based on modified steroid rings (including 17-α derivatives).7


Such data must nonetheless be treated with caution. We know, for example, that the magnitude and pattern of hypertrophy is dependent on the nature, duration, and intensity of exercise undertaken.8,9,14 Thus, strength trained athletes (such as weightlifters, powerlifters, bodybuilders, and throwers) develop a greater increase in wall thickness, a more concentric pattern of LV growth, and a lesser increase in LV chamber internal dimensions8 in comparison to those undergoing predominantly aerobic/endurance exercise.

Keywords: steroid, hypertrophy, exercise, anabolic steroids

the rest is in the link below


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[–]Jigsus 22 points23 points  (6 children)

Seriously there's a big difference between drinking caffeine and dropping dead at 35 from steroid use.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

My opinion is that nothing is worth sacrificing your health. Time is the only limited ressource you have so don't waste it..

But everyone is free to do what he wants. I don't particularly want to get ENORMOUS, being in a country where nobody lifts, I can afford not to take steroids and still be in the 10% physically. But if someone wants to take steroids, it's his choice and his decision whether it's a good one or not.

[–]Jigsus 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I totally agree but I want everyone to be informed of the risks especially with steroids because there's so much bro science going around.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is indeed important to make an informed decision.

[–]Zeparic 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You're full of shit. Anyone with the wherewithal who seriously considers undergoing steroid treatment will undoubtedly investigate the risks themselves, perform the required analyses, and from there conclude whether or not it's for them. Not leave it up to some post on TRP.

What you're actually doing is hamstering your fear-fueled indecision under the guise of help in an attempt to dissuade others from even considering it and validating your stance on the matter.

[–]RPmatrix 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What you're actually doing is hamstering your fear-fueled indecision under the guise of help in an attempt to dissuade others from even considering it and validating your stance on the matter.

pull your head in sunshine, before someone chops it off

I can clearly hear your hamster ranting away trying to support/justify either 'why steroids are ok for you to take', or 'why you want to use steroids to 'bulk up' in the hope of somehow "turning alpha",, but the truth is fucking with all those thoughts, hence your reply

cut the crap -- /u/Jigsus knows what he's talking about.

alas the same can't be said for you .... yet

and there IS loads of scientific research to support his comments (some he provided sources to, too)

[–]killwhiteyy 3 points4 points  (2 children)

definitely stay away from chemicals like proteins, carbohydrates, and lipids.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes, why not live completely hedonistic shall we?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (18 children)

[–]gruntamasta 20 points21 points  (1 child)

He's my favorite natty bodybuilder

[–]bakbakgoesherthroat 2 points3 points  (2 children)

His comment section is filled with shitty people making the same old natty jokes. The guy has openly admitted that he's been on steroids for 25 years and taken GH for 10. Sure his arms look a little suspect like he got some kind of an enhancement procedure done but the man is a goldmine of information.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Also he's super nice in person and knows me by name

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

idk him but he sure gives me a laugh at times, and his RP advice is usually solid

[–]1NPIF 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Rich Piana is one of my role models for the simple reason that he doesn't give a flying fuck if anyone has a problem with his use of gear. Very RP dude.

To add to GLO's response - not all men experience the side effects of steroids the same way, and not all steroids are created equal. I'm on my fourth cycle and taking orals with a low dose of test E and feel fucking amazing with no noticeable sides. Tren on the other hand made me a bit more aggressive than usual and also made it difficult to fall and stay asleep. Plus I had night sweats. The only way to know how these drugs will interact with your body is to try them. But to discount steroids entirely is to do yourself a huge disservice with your training.

Steroids work, plain and simple. With hygienic and sterile practice, you can use them indefinitely without issues. If anyone is interested in learning more or has questions about gear, pm me.

[–]Kolbykilla 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He also talks out his ass and is very much based off broscience. Take his advice with a grain of salt. I do like his overall outlook on life though. Very rp.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

To add to your response to my response. Ive personally spoken to Ritch Piana about TRP. He recommend that I monetize by developing a clothing line.

[–]fuck_da_haes 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I kinda don't think "GayLubeOil" is a good name for a clothing line ... maybe in some circles ... around SF ...

[–]osman300 9 points9 points [recovered]

nigga I aint buying GayLubeOil Shirts but I will buy "Avatar Of Brodin" logo.

[–]KingoftheAssholes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If there's a shirt with a red knight lifting on it I'll definitely buy it

[–]killwhiteyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

holy shit, that girl sounds like she's smoking semi exhaust. I was totally taken aback by that wet emphysema cough voice.

[–]SilentForTooLong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is an interesting perspective I guess.

I always figured they also shrunk the penis, too. Interesting.

Are there any photo comparisons of before/after shrinking?

[–]drallcom3 3 points3 points [recovered]

Testosterone in general is bad for your health. Unfortunately it's needed to be a man.

[–]Jigsus 51 points52 points  (22 children)

Rhaegar Targaryen fought valiantly, Rhaegar fought nobly, Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaegar died honorably.

[–]Dzuari 55 points55 points [recovered]

~After killing a knight in trial by combat~

Lysa Arryn "you don't fight with honor!"

Bronn "No. He did."

[–]AbioticFountain 33 points33 points [recovered]

It's funny, my brother (very religious) has the highest respect for lotr because of the morals and good vs evil theme. He is adverse to game of thrones because the world is convoluted and there isn't a good vs evil. So how can you learn anything or have lessons, but I think that, if anything, it shows our world more accurately.

Just my $0.02

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[–]Strongbhoy 3 points4 points  (2 children)

This is what reminds me of the Chuck Klosterman bit on Star Wars and who is the favorite character of most people as they grow up.

In the beginning it's Luke. He's the white knight good guy, everything he embodies is pure "good" (if we even want to use those kind of standards). Then, as teenagers, people gravitate more toward Han Solo, the good guy....with an edge.

When everyone becomes adults, it's usually Darth Vader, who has gone through life, as the people who watch Star Wars have and they realize that things aren't as black and white as fairytales and some fiction would like you to believe, and his complexity is the closest to what people are in real life.

[–]TheQuestion78 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is so true. I am a huge Boba and Jango Fett fan because they too are pretty morally gray in their actions. They flip between niceness, generosity, ruthlessness, etc. depending on who they do or don't trust and all of this makes them interesting. Also, some Star Wars games, books, etc. utilize this as well by showing both the Jedi and Sith as imperfect (thus going away from the traditional good vs. evil). Older Star Wars fans such as I eat that shit up while the younger kids are just good with the simple good vs. evil.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Its unpredictable like life is. Whereas all of the good vs evil plots are predictable. And the people that do like those types of plotlines get depressed. Like everyone bitching about anow being killed. You could see that a mile away, he was exactly like his father and he fell the same way. He put to much trust in others.

[–]Temuzjin 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Sauron and Saruman industrialized their regions and then tried to conquer some non-industrialized countries. What they did really isn't that different from what Europe used to do, yet we don't tend to think of industrializing Britain around 1750 as purely evil.

[–]the_code_always_wins 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Eh, not really. Orcs are capital E Evil. They literally just want to kill and eat people. They have no capacity for goodness l.

[–]Temuzjin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

... according to the primitives whose points of view are described in the book.

I'm sure that if you asked the people of Congo what they thought about Belgians in the early 20th century, they'd call them purely evil too.

[–]ScottRikkard 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Too many people think lack of honor automatically grants you victory. At the end of the day, the more powerful man wins, not the most honorable or less honorable. Self mastery is where is at. The strongest can afford themselves honor, it doesn't come cheap.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, and young Joffrey had the Honorable Mr Stark's head removed!

Honor has it's place

[–]NougatyGoodness 30 points30 points [recovered]

"And Rhaegar died." I don't believe there is an honorably after that.

[–]Jigsus 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Ok but the point is that he's dead and nothing can help him.

[–]RPthrowaway123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of my favorite lines in the whole series. Perfectly describes being a man, too...

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What is this?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

TRP literally saved my life. OP isn't not exaggerating in the slightest.

Even if feminism doesn't kill you it makes your life unlivable by any stretch of the imagination.

Who knew that only after accepting ones unworthiness could that same man decide to go get what he wants from life by taking it.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 12 points13 points  (1 child)

But at the same time graduate schools have no problem throwing meritocracy out the window in favor of diversity.

Well, I'm ciswhite and cismale and cishetero. But gender, sexuality and race are products of society and are fluid. So I can tick "female gay black" on the application form right? :D

[–]NidStyles 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I always enter "other" on those forms, or make up something different... I never say anything when they ask me either. To this day the Army still thinks I am a Mexican Jew. The local University thinks I am a Pacific Islander/African/Hispanic white with lesbian tendencies.

I personally don't give a shit for their paperwork, and know I am screwing with their qoutas.

[–]plzdontask 16 points16 points [recovered]

This is true. I am a corpse. 21 years old and I'm living like I'm already dead.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 34 points35 points  (14 children)

In that case here is some My Chemical Romance for you to listen to.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse 5 points6 points  (12 children)

I'm curious GLO, how would you recommend a former emo kid go about implementing the red pill in his daily life? Besides "lift".

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 20 points21 points  (6 children)

Talk to everyone you meet. The more people you know and the more you learn from people the more interesting you will become. Being personable and fun to talk to will benefit you greatly in your career.

[–]alpha_buffalo 5 points6 points  (4 children)

For social strategy I always recall the Bruce Lee quote, ''Be water, shapeless, formless.'' There are huge dividends in being socially diverse, talking to all sorts of people and long term value when you exit as soon as returns start to diminish in your social interactions.

[–]AKnightAlone 3 points4 points  (3 children)

This is how I would describe my best friend. He's not a dick, he gets along with basically everyone, he's respectable, but he also has an attitude about him that seems free enough that you wouldn't want to push him. He puts up with a lot and he's incredibly selfless, but he still has full control of himself. As a beta by actions, I have a tough time deciphering how he can be so seemingly contradictory, yet make it work so perfectly.

Edit: I noticed in the past that he's what I would definitely consider an Omega. Alpha attitude, but no ties to others.

Edit 2: On second glace, the Omega definition depends on who is defining it. I've just found a few different definitions.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Alpha attitude, but no ties to others.

Sigma. A lot of those here. Self-reliant and very aware.

[–]disposable_pants 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Pick a hobby that's active, social, and has a gentle learning curve --like climbing or sand volleyball.

  • They're an enjoyable way to improve yourself physically.
  • You learn a skill/hobby, which is far more interesting to talk about with women than "yeah I go to the gym" (that sounds like what everyone else says)
  • Because it's easy to get decent at these activities (gentle learning curve) you feel comfortable with them sooner, you get positive feedback to encourage your continued development, and you quickly gain enough sport-specific knowledge to intelligently talk about it with others
  • They offer an easy way to develop your social skills (they require some teamwork communication, there are an abundance of other people participating, it's easy to start a conversation around what you're doing, etc.)
  • It puts you around fit women; you'll quickly learn how to interact with them naturally and they're all potential plates

I'm not saying don't lift, because that's the quickest way to look, but incorporate something like this a few times a week. Do it for a month and you'll be surprised at the results.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Do people seriously go climbing alone? It just seems weird. I went with a friend once and it was all pairs.

[–]disposable_pants 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Look for a gym with:

  • Bouldering. The walls are only ~20 feet high, there's thick padding (think of a soft mattress) covering the floor, and no ropes. Easy to do alone, plenty of people do it.
  • Auto-belays in their top rope climbing area. Top rope climbing is done on higher walls (maybe 60 feet) and requires a harness and rope to keep you from falling if you slip. The rope system is a belay and usually requires a partner, but an auto-belay allows you to top rope by yourself.

It's easy to see how the social part comes into play. Maybe you're bouldering and another person or a small group of people is working on the same route. It's natural to strike up a conversation about what you're doing -- "Where do you put your foot right there?" or "How good is that red handhold?" Maybe you're top rope climbing and another person is there by themselves -- you're both rotating around the same three or four auto-belay walls (and generally there are a lot more walls that don't have auto-belays; you need a partner to climb them). It's natural to ask if they want to trade belaying and try out some of the routes you aren't able to explore alone -- no one turns that down.

[–]SwagYoloJesus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Turn it around. You're 21, that's very young. Turn it the fuck around.

[–]mryddlin 10 points11 points  (4 children)

The Hollow Men is the poem by T.S. Elliot, its about the theme you have laid out.

if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying hard enough

Love that quote from Heinlein, the game has always and will always be rigged. The trick is to engage it on your own terms and come out on top.

Cheating, or stacking the deck in your favour, is what anyone does to win.

Fair fights are for suckers.

[–]ramot1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Corpse confirmed.

Source: divorced under the american system of injustice.

[–]RPmatrix 10 points11 points  (6 children)

maybe zombie is a better word than corpse for these guys you describe GLO

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I thought about it but corpses sounds better in the title.

[–]The_BeardedGentleman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Corpses hits you a lot deeper than the word zombie. Especially in an age when everyone is walking around like zombies already with their brain smashed into a 4" x 6" phone.

[–]trphardmode 7 points8 points  (1 child)

zombie/corpse - just depends on if you're looking at their body or their soul

[–]Nicholas_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Great post.

The older I get, the more I realize breaking the rules is the only way to enjoy life. Being the moral, nice guy will NEVER get you any where but bring misery and heartache. As opposed to being immoral and doing what it takes to get ahead will see you more often than not more financially well off, bring more respect from your peers and fellow co-workers and for some crazy reason bed you chicks left right and center.

[–]pablothe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Its definitely in your interest to do anything in your power to win a rigged game.

This phrase is so fucking spot on.

[–]notrustled 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why are there so many corpses? Because men are disposable. They always have been and always will be.

Yes. In the past, we were disposable. We were the risk-takers, the warriors. And if those men survived their own disposability they got their rewards.

These days, we're still disposable. But our rewards had been taken away after them being labeled as 'privileges'.

[–]Sir_Shitlord_focker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks ! Spectacular post. That's why I'm MGTOW.

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 5 points6 points  (8 children)

[–]whatgold 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Don't you have to get a visa to move to Thailand? What about when it expires?

[–]Totsean 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah you need a visa, get an education one.

[–]Surf_Or_Die 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why is it wrong to move your money to Lithuania and yourself to Thailand? Your money, your body. Do whatever you want with it. I don't see any moral conundrum there.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The government sees all of your money as its money and your Birth Certificate is simply a balance wager. You are a commodity as far as tge government is concerned.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What I've learned from a lifetime of suicidal tendencies and being bullied is, people don't care for the truth.

They have a view of the world in their minds, and that is all that matters. If you shake it even a little, you're a monster.

You can try convincing people every which way to what is right, but until people don't see results, they will not budge. The exception to this rule may be 1 or 2 men and women in a lifetime. You must use blanket statements, there aren't that many exceptions to the rules anyway.

In any case, people will run with what feels good, if the Fuhrer makes killing Jews an honorable act, many many MANY, will follow suit.

If making fun of a short kid is in, guess who's life just got exciting?

What I'm saying is, go against the system. Fuck those rules that tell you "cheating is bad" or "manipulating women is evil." Let's face it, no one is more manipulative than a woman. She will cheat you out of your manhood at the first chance. Simply because she wants to follow society and be seen with the "in" crowd. As Daisy Buchanan said [scoffed really] in The Great Gatsby to Nick Caraway, "God! I'm sophisticated!"

Treat em mean and keep em clean. Break the rules, not the law. The rules.

[–]keemar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nailed it... oh shit GLO wrote this, I better take my ass to the gym.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is it wrong to cheat your way through placement tests and university?

it's actually wrong NOT to cheat, the school system cheats you, therefore you should cheat it.

[–]UnluckyPenguin 2 points2 points [recovered]

This is the Dark Triad mindset. You can either do what it takes to win, or you can lose.

Even Jesus lost his temper and trashed a temple because of corrupt priests selling tickets to heaven or forgiveness or whatever.

Men can turn their cheek the other way and keep getting slapped, or they can become the one that does the slapping on other people who just keep turning their cheeks.

[–]Doctor_Mayhem 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I gotta ask you GLO... why are you slumming it here in TRP and not with a blog of your own that TRP should be linking on the sidebar?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I have gaylubeoil.com however I guess the next step is YouTube thats what everyone is telling me

[–]Doctor_Mayhem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fucking awesome. Lemme favorite that shit.

[–]cariboo_j 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I say don't join the military. Especially these days when there's no clear cut bad guy like Nazis. Joining the military is affirming male disposabality.

If you absolutely must, don't sign up for a combat role. Society doesn't give a fuck about you, don't fight for it.

The same system you fight for is the same system that allows divorce rape.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some are corpses, some are dead men fighting to get their lives back. No matter which, getting divorced eviscerates the man's life and it's assumed he fucked up by cheating, abuse, or neglect. All it takes is an illness that knocks you down and the shortsighted bitch will fuck up your life, doesn't matter how dominant, alpha, hard core, or strong you are, but holy fuck is it easier for her to go cuntzilla on your wallet if you're "nice" or soft.

Men rebuild, it's what drives us. We continue to fight to improve our lives, but being married is like having a millstone around your neck. She will only drag you down, slow your ascent, hold you back, and prevent you from reaching your dreams and goals. Being divorced is like having that millstone dumped in a deep lake, fight all you want you'll drown in debt faster.

I am walking dead, I am the example of what can happen, and most often does. I could be in a completely different world right now, but I got married. Twice because I'm a slow learner. I am rebuilding my life again now that my indentured servitude is over. Fresh start at a moldy 46 laps around the sun. This is where I was 25 years ago, and I fucked up getting married. Don't be me, struggling against the world for 30 years and having what you earn taken to give to someone who hasn’t earned a fucking thing. Learn from my life, struggle and fight for your life, but do not saddle yourself needlessly with some bitch. Be far ahead of where I am when you're knocking on the door of 50. The effort I've put in to be here now could have made me someone, instead I'm fucking nobody because I allowed someone the opportunity to devastate my life... Twice.

You're probably not strong enough to endure this shit and come out fighting like it's the first round, when you're in the 10th or 15th. Save yourself for the battles worth fighting, not the needlessly futile bullshit a woman will put you through.

Never marry.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Acting honorably in a dishonorable system is not courageous. it is criminally stupid. The whole concept of chivalry and honor bound societies was formed to transfer resources and protection from the disposable to the privileged. Why be a sacrifice for others that would never sacrifice on your behalf?

[–]RedPillJohnny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We are all well aware of the psychological damage that a female post wall slut has to deal with for the rest of her life and that it fucks with her own ability to achieve happiness in an endless variety of ways...well then it should come as no surprise that the being a beta male slut has future psychological implications as well...serious ones that most men will never escape even after becoming red pill aware...they, like their cock carousel riding counterparts, are damaged goods. I am trying my best to slough off the blue pill bullshit but after 20 years of beta-hood with a wife and kids...it ain't fucking easy. Don't be that guy.

[–]RamsayRedbeard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Best post i've seen on here in a while - Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily!

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For those that still need more corpses to see, the number is one: their own. Not everyone learns from others

[–]ChiefReap 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ooooh u said it's (morally) wrong u get banned now

[–]ProfHotTub 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Damn this reddit depresses me. That diversity link makes me really value preventative health practices.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its reality bro. Don't let reality depress you. It is what is, you can shape it if you know how.

[–]verdis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this post embodies The Red Pill really well.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

White knights are still useful, let's not forget. White knights are the beta orbiters, and I'm glad to have them around, that will mean less competition for me when I am ready to leave monk mode. Thanks to society and schools programming men to be beta SJW white knights, they will ensure that I stand out from them because they are plentiful.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is it wrong to leave the country?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

hey walk without meaning or purpose, engage in little thought and for the most part spend their lives doing what they are told. These men have been fucked so hard, they no longer value themselves. They don't believe they have the power to shape their destiny and have resigned themselves to accepting whatever fate they are dealt. Our world is filled with these men.

Until recently, I was one of them. Still kinda am, by trying to claw my way out. If your worth is defined by others and others have ground you down by constantly reminding you that nothing you do is ever good enough or even just enough, you really have no sense of self-worth. I used to. Very hard to recognize what I have become and to try and take back myself.

[–]Primemale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people just have no balls, when the system/someone is screwing you stand the fuck up and do what you need to do. If you need to cheat, then cheat, if you need to break the rules then do that, (just don't get caught ;-) They are not immutable laws, like gravity, just guidelines that you can choose to follow or not.

Look around you, life is competition, competition for money, resources, women, status etc. You can't just opt out, then you just lose by default.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't forget that you must accept the consequences to breaking the morals of the systems in place around you.

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