Men's RightsThe Red Pill now illegal in New Zealand. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Modredpillschool

Feminism has long maintained that men's interests are entirely and always misogyny, and now we can see the long-game play out.

New Zealand just passed a bill that would make sexist comments online a punishable offense:

After it passed by a 116-to-5 vote in New Zealand's parliament, Gareth Hughes, one of the four Greens MPs to vote against the bill, said it was overly broad and “risks limiting our freedom of expression”.

NZ Labour said it was “wedged” by the NZ government: while some of the bill was “worthy of discussion” the law has “deeply worrying” elements.

The bill covers posts that are racist, sexist, or show religious intolerance, along with hassling people over disability or sexual orientation.

Wouldn't be so bad in principle, if we didn't have a social movement hellbent on labelling all of men's interests "sexist."

And here we have it, just another shining example of women trying to invade and colonize a male space. Rollo has a piece on this very thing, if you haven't read it yet, I recommend you do.

(The irony here is palpable: linking a voice for men automatically deleted my post and I have had to manually reapprove it because reddit has already banned the use of the website- for nothing more than being a male space)

What are the implications for reddit and TheRedPill? Well it's not good news, if Reddit wants to operate in New Zealand (which they probably will if they don't already)...

There's a safe harbour provision for Web sites, and here's where the free speech arises. A platform like Facebook or Twitter (if they bothered) can opt into the safe harbour – but only if they agree to remove allegedly offending material either on-demand or within the bill's 48-hour grace period.

Wait, what's this? In order to operate in New Zealand and comply with their laws, they need to agree to basically give feminists carte blanche on a delete button for anything they find distasteful.

Anybody who wishes to defend feminism as simply an equal-rights movement will need some seriously creative gymnastics to skirt around this issue. Even if you could feasibly say that feminists had nothing to do with the law that passed or it's enforcement, there is little you can do to speak against the fact that it is feminism, and feminism alone, that has been on the war path to making sure men's issues, and any form of men speaking with each other without female approval, are inherently misogyny.

I'm curious to see how this plays out. The fact is, as men, a lot of us already knew the feeling of having no belonging and no place for men's interests in the 90s. The internet was a life saver for many of us. If this takes place, you can be sure that men aren't going to roll over and take it again.

Don't believe the lies that feminists tell, that they aren't for censorship or that they're for equality. This will have real impacts and will interfere with the rights of men, and men alone.

[–]TheDialecticParadox 484 points485 points  (39 children)

What the fuck NZ.

This isn't just about feminism or Red Pill. This is blatant fascist censorship.

The SJW movement has not only penetrated social media, but now government.

I wonder how long it will be before the SJW's and radfem's realize how much they fucked up.

Twitter and Facebook aren't going to be able to appropriately comply with these laws. Free speech is rampant on the internet and especially social media.

Without Facebook and twitter and every other platform these people abuse to yell "RAPE!" and "MISERGERNY!", how will they spend their miserable lives policing others?!

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 161 points162 points  (17 children)

I wonder how long it will be before the SJW's and radfem's realize how much they fucked up.

I don't think you'll see them come to this conclusion. They are the higher caste, they will never see bad consequences from these actions.

In the words of Socrates:

Once made equal to man, woman becomes his superior.

Women know this won't be a problem for them, they are already our superiors. Their speech literally cannot be hate speech or sexism, why would they care what laws they pass to fuck us?

[–]onepill_twopill 32 points33 points  (4 children)

Agreed. When there was that whole Kony 2012 thing, several people in my classes at school were up in arms about it. A few years later Kony was brought up during a conversation with the very same people who encouraged it the most. They mentioned how stupid the people were to fall for such a simple trick, which they would never do.

[–]josephgene 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Can you expand on the kony 2012 dilemma?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bitches got they pantiez twisted over nothing as a direct result of corporate marketing.

^ Could also describe society writ large ; )

[–]TheDialecticParadox 33 points34 points  (10 children)

Correct. That's why I said I wonder. It's not worth thinking about.

Women can pass as many laws as they like to fuck men. It's artificial superiority. It's a system of control. Like God, aka Patrice O'Neal once said: "Women are the fuckee, and Man are the fuckers." Physically, sexually and mentally, we are superior to women.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

The problem is that the mainstream idea being broadcast to men is that they shouldn't be men.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Fine, to those who listen woe be unto thee. I'll be fucking the precious snowflake you admire but can't seem to get naked.

[–]aazav 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the SJW's and radfem's realize how much they fucked up.

Don't you know they are incapable of making mistakes? And incapable of admitting they made them?

[–]tones2013 9 points10 points  (5 children)

wedge politics is a scourge in AUSNZ They dont give a shit about what theyre voting on, as long as it puts the opposition in an awkward position. Wedge bills are necessarily so ridiculous, extreme and poorly constructed/broad because a right minded person needs to baulk at voting for it. And when they refuse to be wedged and go along with it then the process begins again with an even more extreme bill.

Since that "teenage rape gang" bs everyones been super keen to stand up for women in NZ

[–]jimmyjoejimbob 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Except none of that group of rich kids were convicted or charged with anything.

[–]1User-31f64a4e 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What was the teenage rape gang? I didn't hear about it.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Govs are fascist. They control people to gain power. A gov that wont allow you to have guns, certainly doesnt want you to have free speech either.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Not so fast. I can't have guns here in japan but holy shit, is the internet full of free speech. Media too. The weirdest, most freaky free speech you can imagine. Aside from a few blurred genitals, everything is fair game. Culture is the only restricting factor and that too, is fading.

I would bet I could say a million worse things on the net here without even a spy agency bothering to snoop than you could, for example.

[–]emphesym 172 points172 points [recovered]

I swear people were recently circlejerking over Snowden and free speech, but now it's like they all want Big Brother's cock up their ass. This is creepy and sad.

[–][deleted] 139 points140 points  (5 children)

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[–]theHangedGod 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Your feelings end where my intellectual expression begins.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"You will come to love Big Brother"

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Here is the bill text. I think that a case can be made that posting offensive material despite having no "target victim" can still create a victim when the bar for harm is "emotional distress."

[–]Ojisan1 27 points28 points  (0 children)

ReasonTV just posted a video yesterday about a feminist female professor (is there any other kind?) who was attacked by SJWs in a Title 9 administrative case for the thoughtcrime of writing an article critical of some aspects of feminism.

There was no target "victim" in this case and yet she was called on the carpet by her university administrators just for having written the article.

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I saw that future harm BS too. Pre-crime thoughtcrime here we come.

It's a shitty law

I think they may be trying to deal with revenge porn and genuine cyber-bullying, but this is just poorly thought out and over-broad. Principles 1, 4 and 6 are crazy.

I'm waiting for someone who is, say, getting fired to bring proceedings against their employer here under Principle 8. Getting fired is "serious emotional distress".

10 (1) (d) is chilling - how do the Police know what communications are going on? Actually don't answer that.

[–]algidum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Principle 4

A digital communication should not be indecent or obscene.

This is gold!

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 145 points146 points  (11 children)

There will come a time when The Rational Male will be smuggled into New Zealand and secretly read by small groups of men like the Bible in Maoist China

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 32 points33 points  (6 children)

Drawing the letters 'TRM' or 'RP' in the sand with a stick like persecuted christians did with the greek alpha symbol.

[–]1rporion 11 points12 points  (5 children)

they drew a fish, not an alpha

Ichthys.... Iēsous Christos Theou (h)uios sōtēr

Jesus anointed, God´s son, savior...

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Correct, however...


Similar to Greek letter alpha The fish symbol is also similar in shape to the first letter of the Greek alphabet, alpha. In Revelation 22:13 Christ says, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.”

Christians using the fish symbol were acknowledging that Christ was Alpha, the first. He was around at the beginning of creation (John 1:1 — “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”).

The greek symbol came before Christianity.

[–]austronaut76 80 points81 points  (7 children)

pseudo liberals are going to turn firstworld countries into shitholes, this religion is going to be worse than chruch during galileo times

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Let's just all start calling ourselves "pre-op transgender dominative-lesbians who are uncomfortable with their femininity".

And essentially just don't change anything about yourself except your legal gender.

[–]UGoBoom 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That might just be crazy enough to work

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (21 children)

Is this enforceable?

[–]drallcom3 68 points68 points [recovered]

It will only be used to silence certain unwanted people, like politicians who don't want to give more benefits to women or men's rights activists.

[–]thefisherman1961 35 points36 points  (4 children)

Yes, selective enforcement is the only practical way these laws can be implemented. On top of that, because what constitutes "sexism" is completely arbitrary and subjective, the government can define just about anything as "sexist" if it wants to.

[–]recon_johnny 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Let's not forget the definition of racism and sexism has been changed to say you cannot be racist against whites, nor sexist against men.

This shit HAS to stop. If Free Speech is impacted here in the states, it's all over boys

[–]gmflag 41 points42 points  (6 children)

It will be hilarious to watch them try.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 71 points72 points  (4 children)

The chans will have a field day with this shit. Endless reports of government and feminist sites.

Lets get wikipedia banned for saying men are stronger than women. Pubmed and github up next. Keks for days.

[–]Cell-i-Zenit 22 points23 points  (2 children)

we should really do this. This sounds so god damn funny. 1 week and 100.000 reports later they will think "damn this is not gonna work".

[–]I_AMA_Naughty_Boy 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Like trying to sip water from a fire hose.

[–]Solomonceed 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Care to slice me a piece of your optimism? Suppression of free speech worked pretty well in Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, the Khmer Rogue' Cambodia... Now add NSA-style technology to all this.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Men are better than women.

Posted from NZ. Lets see.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's a pretty low bar for misogyny. Such an understatement might even be a form of white knighting. In my book it's not misogyny until you start exchanging recipes for how to properly cannibalize women---and even then it's misogynistic unless you don't like the recipe.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not for their small ass police force.

[–]BlackHeart89 53 points54 points  (22 children)

This is the type of shit that amazes the fuck out of me. I'm no politician... hell, I not very well educated in politics at all. But jesus christ. How the fuck could this be a good idea in anyone's mind??? Such a waste of time and resources, its ridiculous. I see racist comments online damn near every day I get on the internet. It may offend me, but I never think, "They should enforce a law against this and charge people for it." I just stop reading the comments and/or go to another page. Boom. Problem solved. Expense free.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 54 points55 points  (16 children)

How the fuck could this be a good idea in anyone's mind???

Because they are progressives. Progressives do what feels good rather than what achieves results.

Seriously, look at the law in Norway about 12 years ago that forced public companies to have 40% of their boards to be women. Then a study came out in 2009 which showed that private companies in Norway (which were exempt from this law) significantly outperformed public companies.

... and today several countries in the EU are pushing for the same goddamn law. Because it feels good and that good feel is more important than the damage to the economy it will cause.

[–]chinawinsworlds 27 points28 points  (8 children)

Norwegian here, that law really embarrassed me, but at least we understand more now. We have that amazing documentary by Harald Eia showing the stupidity of feminists. And the results of that law is known too.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 2 points3 points  (4 children)

They are assuming that google and you tube will police their content. Good luck with that. New zealand is small i bet they will just pull out.

[–]Ibex3D 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Could you imagine the backlash if Google(which owns youtube) and Facebook both pulled out because of this? Oh my god it would be hilarious.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

College kids would be fucked.

[–]catbrainland 9 points10 points  (0 children)

google and you tube will police their content

But they already do. https://www.chillingeffects.org/

As long it's illegal in target country, they'll comply on geoip basis. It's like viewing hitler youtube videos in germany, you get a nag screen instead that you should get a proxy or move to someplace less nanny state.

[–]TheRedRain 74 points75 points  (24 children)

I have never been more disappointed in my home country.

This is one of the things that almost throws me right back to the depression phase.

[–]Ibex3D 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Dude, this just depresses me. Even blue pill me would know this is very very bad. Has nothing to do with TRP. This is just blatant censorship.

[–]vacationlife- 40 points41 points  (19 children)

what does it matter any more. in the UK you can get arrested for calling a soccer player a nigger in a tweet. you get arrested for making a joke about nelson mandela dying. in australia you get arrested for saying anything racist. US will go the same way too, as the western first world is on the decline.

meanwhile places like china are taking steps in the opposite direction to have more freedom. eventually the two will intersect, and then it's time to move

[–]zaiguy 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I hear ya. I spent nearly 5 years living and working in Moscow, and I never felt more freedom. Speak your mind, drink a bottle of beer in a park, fuck girls without fear of being called a rapist.

I come back to Canada and I subconsciously find myself censoring my speech, following the proper protocols when drinking beer (must be locked in a closet and wrapped in two thick blankets), eyeing all women with deep suspicion, etc.

If I didn't have a business that was doing so damn well, I would say screw the west and move back to Russia.

[–]higherprimate718 8 points8 points [recovered]

yeah but dont you dare talk shit on the russian government. They will fucking gameofthrones you.

[–]watch_ping 9 points10 points  (11 children)

US will go the same way too

Doubtful; The Constitution has always been a pretty strong argument against "muh feelings".

[–]Brave_Horatius 18 points19 points  (1 child)

There's a lot of soft power being wielded especially where there's a bottom line for someone, for example the confederate flag. Sure you've a right to display it but when Walmart et all doesn't sell them and Google is purging market place search results for it that right doesn't go a whole long way.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Agreed. The ACLU has and will employee Jewish lawyers to support the right of Nazis to celebrate the holicaust.

There is this cool streak in the American zeitgeist that goes something like "I hate what you are saying but I will fight for your right to say it."

[–]Solomonceed 11 points12 points  (2 children)

The ACLU already supports Affirmative Action aka the most blatant form of racial/sexual discrimination currently going on in the US. No values are sacred, not even liberty.

Let us not rely on the government or organizations. If we want to keep our liberty, we ourselves must fight for it every day.

[–]RedHeimdall 3 points4 points  (2 children)

"I hate what you are saying but I will fight for your right to say it."

It's not true though, not for organizations with some power like the ACLU. If they're talking about Larry Flynt or the Piss Christ guy, they talk about principles and give the line you mentioned. Acceptance or tolerance of these things weakens traditional values in the culture, so they're on board -- supposedly for reasons of principle.

What about the Confederate flag? I haven't seen them rushing to the barricades to defend it. What about cartoons of Mohammed? Do we see them defending free speech against "hate speech censorship?" Point is: they pick and choose when they want to apply their principle and when they don't. Which means in reality they do not follow said principle.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Is that true about Australia? All the Aussies I've met are racist as FUCK. (Maybe rationally so though, I dunno, I've never been there). They aint fuckin with those aboriginals

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Australians arnt racist, we just tell it how it is and don't pussyfoot around the truth. But that is changing. It really is becoming sjw hell here and our governments are so legislation happy and the population so enthusiastic about being ruled over by nanny....I fear for the future

[–]Atherstone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We are racist a lot but we don't get as butt-hurt as Americans do. If we get truly offended we smash it out and if not then we yell and then leave (probably).

As for aboriginals, some of them are all good and can be real good mates but some of them (quite commonly the ones who have never worked in their life and claim welfare) can be absolute trash. Some of those aboriginals can be so fucking racist even i get astounded sometimes.

P.S I haven't seen anyone get arrested for saying something racist. Get hit in the face with a brick? Yep. Wearing a pair of cuffs? Nup.

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[–]Ibex3D 18 points19 points  (0 children)

They do. it means whatever the fuck fits them in whatever situation they are using the word. Just like everything else in feminism it is whatever they want it to be. And since no one will(or can for fear of being labeled a rapist or misogynist) call them on their bullshit, it will continue to mean whatever they want it to.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 16 points17 points  (11 children)

The feminists have succeeded where they failed in Sweden/Norway, the "Saudi Arabia of feminism" according to Julian Assange.

It was nice knowing you, NZ.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (5 children)

My cousin in sweden said that the hierarchy of how things are treated in Sweden goes like this:

Women>children>animals>the environment>men

He told me neighbours have gotten in trouble with the law for simply raising their voice at their kids.

[–]Ibex3D 11 points12 points  (2 children)

The age of men is ended. So begins the age of Idiots.

[–]Castremast 5 points6 points  (1 child)

We are living in a real life idiocracy world. I like that movie.

[–]Blacks_Matter_LOL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That movie is a dog whistle about African countries / welfare recipients that breed out of control. He just made all the actors white so no one would cry racism.

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I wonder if this law will apply to the Red Pill Women sub?

[–]2Overkillengine 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It'll get categorized as "internalized misogyny" which is the normal go to censorship tool used when race and gender based accusations aren't readily available.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

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[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (7 children)

Would be nice for a sensible discussion on this as opposed to speculation that the Western world is doomed. I would like to know if there were any pressure groups etc campaigning for this.

I have already seen the backlash begin in my country, England. People are sick of political correctness, which is why there has been the huge rise in votes for conservative, eurosceptic UKIP.

This is not strictly a feminist bill as it is just part of the scope. Although Internet laws in the UK are rarely enforced, It is a worrying step. It takes away what the Western world supposedly holds as supreme, individual freedom.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Would be nice for a sensible discussion on this as opposed to speculation that the Western world is doomed.

It's not speculation, it's a law that passed that makes our "sensible discussion" illegal in NZ.

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[–]philly2shoes 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Haha the aussies and kiwis are so fucking faggotized. Good luck.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (5 children)

This law will fail. It's not enforceable. The moment they try to dictate to Facebook and other large companies what they must delete and censor is the moment those sites simply stop doing business in NZ.

There are hundreds of millions of profiles on Facebook. They can't possible manage them all for content.

What's more is that NZ can't possibly field all the complaints that feminists will likely bring against websites.

At best they can block major "offenders" but, again, that will reduce services and content for NZ.

And EVEN if they are successful in blocking content and censoring Facebook, then the "offending" websites just use proxies or false fronts, mirrors, etc.

If you want to see what censorship looks like then look at North Korea. There is no way they can reproduce what NK has done in NZ.

That said, I also think this is a huge boon to men. Why? Because it once again brings men's issues into the public view. What greater way to advance RP knowledge than to defend them in the public theater?

There's no such thing as bad publicity.

[–]Ojisan1 8 points9 points  (2 children)

This law will fail. It's not enforceable.

The law may fail, but not due to unenforceability. The UK's porn law is unenforceable, but that isn't stopping them from trying. China's censorship laws are theoretically unenforceable but a relatively compliant populace seems to just accept it. America's DMCA would seem unenforceable but YouTube and other sites are more than willing to fuck over their own users and forsake "fair use" doctrine in favor of a "shoot first, as questions later" approach.

[–]DrQuaid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

DMCA doesnt really work for google searches, just click on the link on the bottom of the page about DMCA notices and it will give you all the blocked pages...

[–]computer_d 19 points20 points  (20 children)

Kia ora, from New Zealand.

This isn't about SJW. The legislation's main intent is to protect children. New Zealand has a high rate of youth suicide, some of which can be attributed to bullying, especially cyber bullying. Supporters of this bill have cited certain social media apps which allows anonymous comments, apps which children (pre-adult) use.

So while the legislation is shit, being far too broad, it's intent is to protect children most of all. How they get around anonymous messaging, I don't know. It is not about SJW or whatever term you want to label people who get butthurt over anything - it's just an adverse repercussion of such poorly worded legislation.

[–]8n0n 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The legislation's main intent is to protect children.

I see your bet, on good intentions, and I raise you with 'scope creep' on your road to hell.

[–]Bottled_Void 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Everyone should just flag all the feminist rants as sexist. There is no reason it shouldn't swing both ways, that's what they purport to be fighting for.

[–]2Sepean 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Like that's going to happen. The companies, police and courts are going to give SJWs a pass, and label anything against feminism as hate speech.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

After it passed by a 116-to-5 vote in New Zealand's parliament, Gareth Hughes, one of the four Greens MPs to vote against the bill, said it was overly broad and “risks limiting our freedom of expression”.

Gareth Hughes was immediately charged as the first person in violation of the new law, and is up for early release in 2017.

[–]topredhat 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I think it goes beyond this. They can class anything as sexist even if it isn't and people will not look in to what it really is. They can take down anything they dislike and call it sexist.

[–]furpwt 9 points9 points [recovered]

People are very misinformed about this Act - it isn't nearly as bad as you make out. TRP won't be illegal by any stretch. It's not illegal to read offensive material online, and it's only illegal to POST offensive material if it's directed at an individual. And even then, the person who's targeted has to jump through hoops to do anything about it.

Local news coverage

While I don't like the Act too much, it really is targeted at "cyberbullies" who harass individuals. It won't stifle discussion forums like TRP.

As a Kiwi RPer, perhaps I'll avoid tweeting about a Kiwi Sarkeesian or Sulkowitz. It's stupid, but that's about the level of censorship this will cause - for now at least.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 229 points230 points  (178 children)

The Red Pill is 120 thousand fit college educated middle class men. If we really wanted to we could invade New Zealand and install a new government. We definitely have the manpower. There are plenty of veterans here. Plus everyone here knows where the magazine release is on an M16, from years of playing Call Of Duty.

Realistically the Red Pill Reaction Force would be far more effective than half the world's militaries. The Afghan military is fucked up on opium. The Iraqi army cant even do jumping jacks.. Plus New Zealand has only 8 thousand military personnel the majority of whom are useless paper pushers.

I don't actually support the violent overthrow of New Zealand. I just think its kind of a fun idea conceptualy.

[–]Potassium39 44 points44 points [recovered]


Sincerely, New Zealand.

[–]BleepBloopComputer 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Doubt this comment will last mate, they've deleted anything that hurts their feels.

[–]ZxncM8 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Are you fucking retarded? Do you seriously believe the red pill could overthrow New Zealand. Hahahahahaha

[–]Dildo_Saggins 27 points28 points  (29 children)

The Red Pill is 120 thousand fit college educated middle class men.

Have we ever actually polled for this? I mean it intuitively makes sense, but now I'm very curious to see the demographics of our subscribers.

[–]648262[🍰] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Nope, and I would guess less than half fits this description.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 15 points16 points  (27 children)

Iv skyped approximately 200 Red Pillers and my Twitter subscribers also confirm this. The average age is about 22.

[–]AureliusThunderkok 49 points50 points  (0 children)

< skyped

I thought what we did was called "camming." $4.99/min

[–]Dildo_Saggins 3 points4 points  (22 children)

What would you say the median income is? Or job fields?

I just like looking at charts lol

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 18 points19 points  (21 children)

Most of them are still in university. So they are very skilled intelligent men without income. The most common field is programming.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 26 points27 points  (11 children)

Hmmm. Perhaps I should do a "How to Manage a Software Engineering Career" post.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

It would end in a technological debate about languages just like every programming thread.

But I'm interested what tl;dr do you state about the topic.

[–]1FrogTrainer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It would end in a technological debate about languages just like every programming thread.

Only if you suggest something stupid like PHP or Ruby...


[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

The most common field is programming.

I wondered about this and was guessing the same thing. There is no better training for your brain as a man than programming. Writing software forces you to think in a purely logical manner in order to accomplish your goals. Computers don't care what you want them to do. They will only do exactly what you tell them to do, for better or worse. They will never give in to feelz and bullshit you with blue pill nonsense.

IMO, every piller should learn how to program, even if they never apply it to their career. It is lifting weights for your brain.

[–]furpwt 50 points50 points [recovered]

We could invade New Zealand and install a new government. We definitely have the manpower

Ridiculous. I'm not sure if it's worth trying to comprehensively injecting some realism in here, or if it's better to let everyone hold their power fantasy.

In short, the NZ Army is very well trained and equipped. Comparing to the Iraqi army or Afghan army is ridiculous - the NZ Army is directly descended (<200 years ago) from the British army. It has fought alongside the US Army numerous times (e.g. WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan).

That's just for starters. I don't think bodybuilding and CoD are going to stand up.

[–]wanderer779 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I'm pretty sure GLO is just having some fun. The rest of the west obviously isn't going to let a bunch of dudes on the internet take over New Zealand.

I don't think there is any way to revert back to policies that are fair or reward hard work or protect liberty. I also think there won't be a collapse, at least not in my lifetime. I see more of an Orwellian/Huxleyan dystopian thing playing out where everyone just kind of trudges along half asleep. Hell we are about halfway there already.

[–]BleepBloopComputer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The rest of the west obviously isn't going to let a bunch of dudes on the internet take over New Zealand.

The 'rest of the west' has nothing to do with it. As a Kiwi, I welcome you dumb cunts to have a go. Haven't had long pork in too long.

[–]dirtybucks 14 points15 points  (4 children)

You are forgetting that GLO has the Russian mentality. We will just rush them in great numbers and beat them with our hats. No ammo/guns necessary.

Maybe one sniper needed.

[–]TitsAndWhiskey 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I thought the Russian philosophy was let them invade Mother Russia. Mother Russia will freeze them to death.

[–]The_Man11 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Combined with "We have more people than you have bullets" and Russia wins every time.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Zerg rush. I'll be commander Zerg.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 25 points26 points  (15 children)

They are only have 4,500 regulars. Im sure there is an asshole somewhere who is willing to arm, train and fund our anger phase boy army. My guess is North Korea, Iran maybe China or Russia. We can't be too picky.

[–]furpwt 28 points28 points [recovered]

I'll respond as if you were serious, but perhaps you're trolling.

4,500 regulars is just the army. The full military includes the navy and airforce, and is 10,000 strong of trained personnel with a $3B annual budget and the experience of fighting in the aforementioned wars. In the case of a ground invasion you have to further consider 1 million military aged men (and a further 1M women) who could take up arms as readily as the average Redditor.

If North Korea wanted to help the RP army (the other 3 are preposterous), you have to consider the long-standing allies NZ has (e.g. Aus, UK, US). NZ has fulfilled its military obligations to fight alongside allies in dozens of wars.

Yes invading another country is a fun idea if we want to suspend reason. For someone interested in international politics and military combat, it just sounds silly.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 41 points42 points  (10 children)

Sounds like a feminist PsyOp to me. Nice try feminists but we are going to conquer New Zealand. We can get Mens Rights in on the action too.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (5 children)

In the news: Roid Rager who went by handle of "GayLubeOil" arrested and held in solitary under anti-terror laws. Advocated violent subjugation of women and believed rape and beatings to be a divine right from Brodin. More news at 11.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Too much attention would be brought to TRP, they'd probably kidnap him and throw him in a blacksite.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 5 points6 points  (1 child)

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 5 points6 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Look up the Korean war. We were off guard and we got our asses kicked. If we strike before they can field and train regular soldiers and capture key places, it'll be a cakewalk. We'll be done by Christmas!

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can't tell if you actually can't tell he's joking or if you're just fucking with me.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And if anyone thinks the US, UK, CA and AUS wouldnt jump in for NZ is dreaming.

[–]friendlysociopathic 122 points122 points [recovered]

Recently I've become quite heartened about the long-term future of our society, because I've noticed how astronomically, incredibly well I've done in my career since I swallowed the pill. I seriously doubt I'm unusual in this respect; in 20 years time more than a few of us are going to be in positions of serious power and we may see some positive change from that alone. No need to invade anyone, climb the ladder and shit on the degenerates from above.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 109 points110 points  (52 children)

Im just saying we have more than enough anger phase 19 year old boys to seriously fuck shit up. We could install a Jeffersonian democracy where only men have the right to vote. Then we can prove our theories right once and for all!

If these satirical comments make me the most wanted man in New Zealand, im definitely going to cashing in these bad boy points for unlimited sex.

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[–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (14 children)

Anger phasers are my favorite reds. People give them a lot of shit but without them we'd lose our tone, edge, message, and drive. Anger phasers are the backbone of the red pill. They may not always have the most coherent or accurate beliefs but they make up for it with sheer rawness. Reading an anger phase post versus an old veteran is the difference between taking a woman's virginity and fucking your wife of 25 years.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (4 children)

Set your anger phasers to stun, or kill?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I love my anger, it keeps me warm. I don't let it run my life, rather I use it and channel it into awesomeness. It gives me that edge you speak of, without dulling the blade or overheating it.

[–]1jb_trp 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I know what you mean, man. People make the mistake of thinking that the anger is caused by misogyny, but really the anger is caused by reality. /u/All_fixed_again's post yesterday where his wife of 15 years kept gaslighting him lying to his face so she could cheat on him with some guy from her online class... Fuck, how could a person not get angry by that?

Anger is the fuel that drives so many Redpillers to change and become powerful men.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Bothers me more when reds eat their own by criticizing the anger phasers. The anger phase is arguably the most legit part of swallowing the red pill. It's when the nature of reality just hits you the hardest and absolutely overwhelms you and the anger is that realization in in purest form. Too many red pillers treat it like something to graduate from in order to be one of the cool kids whereas the angry ones are just inexperienced. You get so many condescending remarks about the anger and it's just so goddamn forgetful. Moreover, I'd be willing to bet a huge percentage of "graduates" are either still in the anger phase or only got out of it because they stopped caring about what the world is like.

[–]roteroktober 18 points19 points  (9 children)

young people are flocking to terrorist groups like ISIS, i know you are joking but i believe you could actually create your very own "red pill army" if you really wanted to.

[–]Valiade 13 points14 points  (1 child)

If a law like this we're to pass in America I wouldn't hesitate to join an organization devoted to fighting it.

[–]friendlysociopathic 14 points15 points  (18 children)

Considering the number of daddy-issues 19 year old boys you've recruited into the Cult of Odin, I suspect you're probably a few years away from having a minor private army at this point. You need a cult compound strategy asap. I recommend taking over somewhere in South America instead, way hotter women than the kiwis.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 49 points50 points  (13 children)

My Cult compound is definitely going to have a nice gym. Thats all I know.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Fuck it, Im in. Dying for a good gym. I dream about squat racks instead of quality ass these days.

[–]Schrodingersdawg 20 points21 points  (9 children)

Don't forget the cafeteria consisting of oats, milk, and chicken.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 25 points26 points  (5 children)

Oats Eggs and Chicken. Milk bloats. Also if the compound is in New Zealand we are going to be eating a lot of lamb.

[–]Poldonis 63 points64 points  (2 children)

Would that make us baaaahd asses?

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha oh my that was fucking bad, so bad that it's funny.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

If we're going to South America, why not Quinoa instead of oats?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Because Quinoa has the immensely appealing mouth-feel of desiccated boogers.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Kick ass NCO ready to go. Middle Earth will be our bitch.

[–]cdtCPTret 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Would rather fight in the mountains than in the jungle. Personal preference.

[–]gmflag 5 points6 points  (1 child)

As they say, "think as you like but behave as others." and "don't talk the red pill, show them the red pill." I am also doing something similar.

People ask me how I do it all the time, and I only tell a certain few that I know are open and accepting of the way the world works about the red pill, while the rest I tell them no idea.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That always seemed like the end game to me. Our goal isn't to change society but how could hundreds of thousands of extremely antifeminist motivated achievers with presumably high social status not lead to change.

[–]onepill_twopill 60 points61 points  (2 children)

Redium (pronounced ree-jee-um) is a large set of islands, formerly known as New Zealand, off the east coast of Australia. The nation has a small population of 5 million, however it also is known to boast the world's highest GDP per capita.

The history of Redium can be divided into three sections: the pre-colonial era, during which Maoris lived as a simple tribal society in the region, the British era, during which the nation was known as New Zealand, and the Modern era, marked by the sudden reversal of national policies in 2018. The nation at this time was the center of a world-wide crisis, when a large number of unknown mercenaries attacked the country. The locals were unable to provide resistance to the 120,000 strong invaders (most likely due to poor soldier quality), and the nation underwent drastic social and political change.

Redium, once thought to be a likely first candidate to fall to social disarray, escaped most of the decline of the 2020's with its new leadership. This is thought to have been due to conservative social policy, and has since maintained the world's highest standard of living.

[–]KredNigD 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Let's go you shit kicking cunts, I'll happily eat your fucking heart. You want to invade New Zealand, you better have a shit fetish because you're going to be covered by the end of it. I'll stomp your muzz you fat headed bitch. Seig fuckin ow and yo fucking Za, will come together, Chinese takeaways and Indian dairys will supply the troops, that bakery down the road will probably even have a sale (fucking rip off cunts) I forsee this invasion being an awful experience for you.

[–]BleepBloopComputer 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Before you invade a country, you're going to have to harden up enough to stop deleting comments that mock you.

[–]SephiXen 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yo dawg pass me one of them "degrees". Doesn't matter what it's in, whatever will work best for New Redpilland.

[–]jeffwingersballs 6 points7 points  (3 children)

There's no guarantee that because someone subscribes to r/theredpill that they hold red pill values.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Well do a Blood Pact to make sure everyone is on the same page.

[–]kingofcrob 3 points4 points  (0 children)

guessing you haven't seen the haka performed, that shit is scary

[–]papipapichulo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Where would you get the money from to assemble such a a force? Why wouldn't you get shot down by New Zealand or even Australia before you arrive. If you arrive by sea why wouldn't Australia's navy obliterate you?

Heck why wouldn't the US obliterate you?

Lol, the fact that you think you would seriously have a chance vs actual armies Bcz you've played CoD is an example why this sub is a joke

[–]Betterthanuatlife 2 points3 points  (2 children)

NZ government officially more beta than my country's (Sweden) government

[–]StarDestinyGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So as I man can I report things on Facebook or Twitter that are anti man or man hating to be removed because I consider them offensive or sexist? And they'll be removed then right?

[–]moose_war 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The other fun part of this bill: you can't criticize a religion either. Sorry guys, if you say anything bad about ISIS and the religion of peace, and you live in NZ, you're going to jail.

[–]NikoMyshkin 3 points3 points [recovered]

couldn't we just say that a lot of the shit feminists come out with is clearly sexist - against men - and give them a taste of their own, censoring medicine?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So I can't dislike religion and actually say it? Well fuck. I'm glad I don't live in middle earth.

Now I wonder, will sexist comments against men also be curtailed, or only the criticism of special snowflakes with vaginas.

[–]Autodidact-Sanchez 2 points3 points  (0 children)

George Orwell was on the money. We are being targeted for 'ThoughtCrime'

[–]Mechanik_J 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry for your loss of freedom of speech, NZ. My condolences.

But they kinda just created a double edged sword. Now guys can call out misandry. There will be a post somewhere where a girl will say "suck it up, and be a man." and boom, some guy will have the right to call out sexism on that comment.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Guys, protect yourselves. Sign up for a VPN if you live in NZ. Or heck, anywhere. I don't have much knowledge of NZ VPN's, but you definitely want one that keeps minimal logging.

Any NZ IT professionals want to chime in?

[–]BIGBIGBIGMEANIE 32 points33 points  (15 children)

Women belong in the kitchen. TAKE THAT, NEW ZEALAND YOU COMMIE FUCKS.


[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 44 points45 points  (1 child)

It's not like these bitches can cook.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There goes freedom of speech.

[–]Wraithwain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It was always bound to happen. Feminists gain control, marriage and sexuality turn into something entirely different, and suppression of supposedly inalienable freedoms follows swiftly to oppose common sense.

[–]_Ozu_ 4 points4 points [recovered]

Free speech and liberty in general is on the decline in much of the Western world. Spain just passed a law that makes it illegal to criticize the government and the monarchy, disrespect authority, or have a "spontaneous" protest in front of a public building, amongst other things. The West is an absolute vipers nest and it's only going to get worse; I encourage you all to set your sights on new horizons.

[–]riverraider69 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can we use this to get feminist websites banned?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I read the letter of the law. It seems like a bill designed to tamp down revenge porn and "cyber bullying" but it just goes so far off the deep end.

It defines "harm" as hurting someone's feelings. No seriously, it does.

What. The. Fuck.

Pretty sure when the Anzac forces ran up on Gallipoli they weren't defending the right for a person not to have their feels hurted.

[–]5p56x45 2 points3 points  (3 children)


Criminalizing online speech has severe chilling effects. Are you still willing to participate in an anonymous discussion here if there are prosecutors or plaintiffs that can serve a subpoena on your ISP to disclose your identity?

[–]SgtBrutalisk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think you should anyway. Cowering does nothing except give you a false sense of security.

[–]5p56x45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely agree, and I'm not going anywhere. The problem is that there are going to be some folks that won't take the risk, so they'll never post, and others may be too scared to even read the material.

And that's the point of the law, isn't it?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Had a friend over, he used the computer. prove otherwise.

Have EVERYONE do that, en masse. I could really bash these fuckers skulls in that propose these laws. How many millions died so we could freely speak? Unbelievable.

[–]Sephar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

New Zealand just banned freedom of speech?

[–]Ibex3D 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Wouldn't be so bad in principle, if we didn't have a social movement hellbent on labelling all of men's interests "sexist."

No. This terrible in principle. I don't know NZ law and perhaps freedom of speech isn't a right there or it's watered down or something but no, silencing ideas is never okay.

And here we have it, just another shining example of women trying to invade and colonize a male space.

You know, I really don't see this as an attack on men. This looks more like an attack on free speech to avoid people from being a little offended by words on the internet. Perhaps feminism is what inspired this whole PC craze and they might use this bill against men's space but I doubt this was designed specifically with sexism in mid.

[–]LaV-Man 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I shudder to think about the repercussions of the next serveral generations, where men are woman-like.

Can you imagine a country where feminism reigns in a war against a country where it has very little to no influence at all?

Steel sharpen steel, no woman made me a man.

It's not women that instill the courage and fear of ridicule that makes men step into combat. They may inspire men to protect them, but not to aggressively attack threats.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

low birthrates, unhappy women, weak faggoty men, feminism destroys everything it touches. The country embracing feminism would be embarrassed.

[–]holytrpbatman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All of this is a global attempt at silencing public forums of all types. The male space/feminism battleground is simply one small battle in a much wider war for control of the entire human species.

Divide and conquer boys, it's worked for millennia

[–]Smokratez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Time for all kiwi men to get the fuck out and see how NZ deals with that. However, I guess there will be enough betas to accept being nothing more than slaves though.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

A bit off topic, can someone tell me what am I?

I always believed I was a liberal, I strongly believe in individual freedoms, freedom of speech and expression, freedom of religion or lack thereof...

While I do not condone hate speech, I find it everyone's right to voice their opinions and concerns even if they appear to be on the extremist spectrum.

The way I see it, I am ok with having a priest, a neo nazi, an atheist and a fascist all with a platform on which to voice their opinions and preach their ideology. Because in the end, we are intellectuals who can use our brains to decide which ideology to follow.

From what I see in the comments (here and other subs and threads) it is the liberals who are oppressing "hate speech", shutting down "toxic" communities hint fph hint and siding up with the feminazis.

A recent test I have taken told me I am on the right wing liberalism, is it what I really am?

EDIT: Also, fuck political correctness, the world is turning into a huge fucking hugbox

[–]redpilldiscourse 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What the fuck. I am glad I left New Zealand last year.

[–]nuesuh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, if someone troubles a 1 meter negro male dwarf, dressed as a woman, a pastafarian pasta strainer on his/her head, severe downs syndrome and a fetish for goat anal sex... one could go to jail.

[–]sillyaccount 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is just an attack on free speech. A global trend that is extremely dangerous.

[–]R3AL1Z3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The internet is a vast all-encompassing heaven of a wasteland; laws like this shouldn't be allowed to exist. Someone's feelings are going to get hurt by some stranger miles away from them and they feel like that person needs to be punished? Some coddling bullshit if you ask me.

[–]JanLul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once in effect and being used, it might be good if a few guys searcg fir sexist texts made by feminists from New Zealand. Texts that argue for killing men or something, plenty of those around. And then file multiple police complaints. Might shake things a bit up at least.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SJW's are only brave when they can get others to do their work for them. In this case, government.

[–]coppercable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is great news for New Zealanders. From day, I will be submitting so many claims of sexism. Its gonna be good.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sure that this law will be applied in an equitable and fair manner, and will apply to any females making any anti-male comments. Oh wait...

[–]moose_war 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why I laugh when people suggest the USA needs hate laws. One of the few perks in living here is that we still have the freest speech.

NOBODY should be celebrating this- not even opponents of the red pill or sexism.

[–]Redpillthriller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stalin would be jealous. He had to kill millions to enforce this level of conformism and thought control. Now we actively encourage it.

[–]1R_E_D_1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The hilarious thing about this is that with every radfem/sjw victory more and more men will just go away. Women will look around and complain 'where are the men?' Meanwhile, dudes will just retreat to their hobbies, porn, hookers and whatever else matches their fancy.

We create the fun spaces. We populate them with good humor, fun, sexy energy and flirtation. When we leave, they're left with a bunch of bitches in hooker heels and bandage dresses trying to fuck the only four alphas in a room. It's like they have literally no idea how to use foresight and are painting themselves into a reproductive corner.

[–]B_Campbell 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Charge a few women for breaking that law and watch how fast they get rid of it.

[–]DiebytheSword666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought, "It's probably because TheRedpill doesn't use the word 'cunt' enough to meet New Zealand standards."

[–]Crisis88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How the fuck did this slip under the radar? I've literally not heard anything about this

[–]Alarid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone is blaming the wrong people. It's not women, or feminists, or even SJW doing this. It's politicians, bending their weak spines in half, to try to please the most vocal jackasses in the world.

[–]LukesLikeIt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ever since John Key got elected (ex fed banker surprise) he seems hell bent on making this place lil'America. If the TPP passes he'll have pretty much succeeded.

[–]bluedrygrass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"(The irony here is palpable: linking a voice for men automatically deleted my post and I have had to manually reapprove it because reddit has already banned the use of the website- for nothing more than being a male space)"

Redditards never ceases to amaze me.

But this ain't fascist, oh no, how dare you, only a kind of people can be fascists.

(P.s., since so many people doesn't seem to know, the fascist regimes originated on a lefty base)

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