Field ReportPick up a girl from the bar. She is married. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by rojo-pildora

TLDR; Pick up girl from bar. She is married. Was spending time away from husband after he found out she cheated on him with other dude. She goes back to husband like nothing happened. He takes her back.

So rewind to May 5th. I just got a new chest tattoo and I was showing it off at my local bar. My friends are singing karaoke and drinking and I see this cute girl sitting by herself at the bar. I go up and start talking to her. Apparently she was waiting to meet someone there but was likely going to get stood up. So I chat up a storm and get her to buy me a drink. At this point I know I am in. We bail from that bar go to another one then eventually back to my place. She sees my car and literally drops her pants and asks me to fuck her against it.

We bang all night. As Batman said in Pete Holmes’ Badman series “It was like an all you can fuck buffet.” Nothing was off limits. Anyways at 6:30AM her alarm goes off and she dresses up and heads off to work in a hurry. I am think ‘wow’ as we both had a ridiculous amount to drink that night. I go back to sleep and don’t even think much about it.

So she gets off work and shows up at my place because in her haste she forgot a few things. We bang and get a bite to eat. She tells me that she was married while we were eating and that her and her husband were spending time apart from each other after she got caught cheating with her ex-boyfriend who, go figure, was a total asshole. She even said “I didn’t even want to see him, but somehow I was there and it just happened.”

At this point I am full Red Pill and am seeing MAJOR Red Flags. I have summed her up and determined she can never be anything past a plate. So a week later she starts getting mushy and I say the usual in how I am not into the whole relationship deal. As expected she gets pissed off talking about how we have a good time and wonders why she isn’t good enough, etc etc etc. Not even an hour later she has me blocked on all social media. Oh well time to replace the plate with a new one.

Now here is the whole reason I am writing this post. Last week she unblocks me and asks if I had any of her stuff and wanted to know if I could send it to her in CA. She also tells me that she went back to her husband. After all that shit that went down with the ex-boyfriend and fucking me stupid he still takes her back.

How awesome is that? To take a vacation from a marriage, fuck a bunch of dudes and then still have a place to land on your feet where everything will be ok.

“I didn’t even give my husband blowjobs, you should feel lucky.” ~ Plate

Edit - For everyone who wants to know about my rides I have a 300zx and a 280z. Also to those who don't read, I didn't know she was married until the next say. Those of you who shun me and tell me to watch for beta husband. Its my cock and my risk. If beta confronts me I'll cross that bridge when it comes.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 154 points155 points  (27 children)

I didn’t even give my husband blowjobs, you should feel lucky.

This right here is why marriage as an institution is doomed. By unburdening women of all responsibility of keeping the relationship going, our society has effectively cuckolded itself. The 'happy wife, happy life' paradigm has made it so that a woman needs only place the absolute minimum level of investment necessary to reap benefit.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (3 children)

I was never too keen on the idea of marriage before reading this post, but you know what? Marriage fucking disgusts me. What a raw fucking deal.

It's just such a kick to the teeth to realize that as a man, you're responsible for every single fucking thing, and you can't expect anything at all. Women do not know what the word "fair" means.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Getting married is an investment with a negative expectation. The few success stories don't make it a worthwhile risk. It's even worse than financial high risk investments because it comes with a substantial time expense. You can recoup money, you can never get your time back.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. Money is really nothing in comparison to time. And then when you consider the emotional trauma of being betrayed, lied to, left in the dirt, and losing any children that you have? Fuck that. Fuck that fuck that fuck that.

[–]MagneticJohnson 38 points38 points [recovered]

The 'happy wife, happy life' paradigm has made it so that a woman needs only place the absolute minimum level of investment necessary to reap benefit.

Investment. that's such a key word. have her do things for you. constantly. hand you the keys. pass the salt. give you a kiss. make you dinner. suck your dick. clean. whatever. if she's doing something for you, she's investing in you. it becomes a habit that is the foundation of a loving girl.

some people don't like to ask people for favors. they think it will make them disliked. wrong. it makes people like you. just ask nicely. ask for a lot and you will at least get something. ask for a big favor, and if you get a no, you can ask for a small one and you'll probably get that.

investment is fucking huge with girls.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I had to learn this "have her do things for you. constantly."

Its beta conditioning to be nice and easy going and not rock boats.

Women WANT to please a dominant man. Let them do it

[–]spookyman212 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Man... this is brilliant. I never thought of this. Can't wait to get my wife to give me favors

[–]nomorelulu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This post is such a hidden gem. I need to remember this.

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 34 points35 points  (7 children)

Its a total scam through and through. These love contracts are one sided and as soon as princess doesn't get her way she ends up in bed with people like us. The whole blowjob thing is major because its a tool she uses to gain control of the relationship. She may not know it consciencly but sub consciencly she does.

[–]ChrisBenRoy 9 points10 points  (6 children)

This. Nothing worse than the "Does he/Doesn't he deserve Sex" mentality. Yes bitch, I'm a man and I built this country and go to work and pay bills, yes I deserve sex you stupid cunt.

[–]VinylGuy420 40 points41 points  (2 children)

No one deserves anything. You, as a man, only get good, quality, sex when you act like a man and that includes lifting, bettering yourself as a man, making decisions, and not being a little bitch who's pushed around. Don't give into anyone's shit, most importantantly not even your wife's shit. This will keep attraction/tingles alive from your woman and she'll be delighted to given you blow jobs and anal.

[–]ChrisBenRoy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This, in more words than what I said, yes. Haha.

[–]THE_SWAG_CHAMP 5 points6 points  (2 children)

You don't deserve shit unless you go out and earn it. YOU didn't build this country. YOU didn't die for this country. And YOU definitely don't deserve shit for riding on the coattails of greater men just for a whiff of vagina.

[–]ChrisBenRoy 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Bruh it was a figure of speech. I didn't mean me personally. Surely you all can pick up on that.

[–]pantsoffire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Piss weak mummy's boys desperate to appease the master and keep the supposed status quo afloat actually convince themselves of this bullshit. After all the experiences, after all the divorced friends and families and fathers and uncles and brothers... They still deep throat and swallow this feminine bullshit. Why? Trained from birth to follow The Female. How can Mothers live with them selves?

[–]RWDMARS 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I don't know why women like this do not try at all with the good men that they have but give everything to the one night stands they meet up with.

[–]Francois_Rapiste 16 points17 points  (1 child)

deleted What is this?

[–]Easih 5 points6 points  (0 children)

because they have no respect for their beta husband.

[–]idonthaveacoolname13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

by "good" men you mean beta providers right?

[–]Nieben 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm thinking once I am proud of who I have become, I'll speak my mind as I damn please.

If a LTR doesn't want to put out for a night for whatever reason - I'll get up, get ready to go out for a walk/run and say, "Tonight it's a walk/run. Tomorrow, it's someone that will want me as I want them." And I'll use the lack of interest as an indicator that I may require more self improvement or require myself to pick up my game and quit slacking/change focus.

If I come back and she isn't all over me, it's probably over and I should have mentally prepared myself for the reality of it. -Basically, if she assumes she has time to consider her options by not changing her attitude immediately, she's sorely mistaken and presumptuous that you don't have the self respect to walk if you aren't getting your desires/expectations met.

[–]JumpXVI 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dread game works better if you don't spell it out. She will do all the thinking for you, including hamstering whether your walk/run is actually you getting your desires/expectations met tonight and not tomorrow.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 355 points356 points  (93 children)

Married women are indeed some of the easiest lays out there, and it all comes down to one maxim that I remember reading somewhere:

When gaming a married woman, you don't have to be better than every man out there; you just have to be better than her husband.

Remember, she only gets to see you at your best; when you're dressed up, going out on the town, fucking her at the airport Hilton, etc. When it comes to hubby, she's washing the skid marks out of his underwear while she watches him in a wifebeater, eating a pizza on the couch, watching Pixar movies with the kids. Guess who's winning the tingle battle in her panties, and who's spinning her hamster to rationalize her cheating?

Such is the folly of marriage; when you're married, you have to be on your game 24/7; when you're side dick, you just have to be the answer to her fantasies for 4 to 6 hours.

[–]mrpCamper 149 points150 points  (46 children)

As a married RP guy that's the deal. You can either be Joe Buck or spend your life in Alpha mode while constantly battling her innate desire and efforts to betatize you. Commonly referred to as Red Pill played on hard mode.

[–]tuxedoburrito 39 points40 points  (39 children)

So, you can never stop dangling the carrot?

[–]fake7272 122 points123 points  (36 children)

yup thats what marriage comes down to. even then the girl might cheat. its insanely hard to find a girl that even passes to marriage material, and then once you do you have to constantly battle her urge to go "experiment" because all her friends nag her about how she isnt crazy enough. in reality, her ho friends just want to see her lower herself to their levels. and that my friend is how a whole society of women have become super sluts.

or you know, dont get married and gain value in your life from achievements and actions

[–]tuxedoburrito 8 points9 points  (32 children)

Well I've been engaged before and thank god I'm not.

So now here's my real question.

I'm gaining lots of strength by lifting heavy, working hard at my job, have a jeep that's almost paid off... I've a 2 year degree but not a bachelors.

Any career opportunities you think I should chase to get wealthy? I've formerly been a missionary and nonprofit worker, so unfortunately all my experience for the last 7 years were that. Now I'm just wanting to be prosperous after news flash, being a missionary and nonprofit worker trying to save the world just left me super miserable and unhappy. So, I'm wanting to do what I've always been trying not to and pursue prosperity.

Idk what to go to school for if I did, I know nurses make a lot. And I make a ton of money bartending but I don't want to be a 35 year old bartender.

[–]fake7272 24 points25 points  (23 children)

there are lots of jobs that make money. nothing wrong with being a bartender and going to school part time. honestly, wealth shouldnt be what you strive for (in and of itself) . when I say achievements I meant goals that mean something to you. for me, it was making it to nationals in college tennis. But to others its something entirely different. I would do some soul searching and figure out what goals you believe striving for would make you happy. notice I said striving for. dont set a goal for "make a million dollars" and then do something that makes you miserable to get there.

in regards to not wanting to be a 35 year old bartender? dude, why the fuck not. go get a job in a college town and pull hard.

[–]tuxedoburrito 7 points8 points  (22 children)

I mean I'm 24 now and a bartender. I make good money, idk I just don't know if there's much honor doing that for the rest of my life.

[–]fake7272 28 points29 points  (1 child)

it sounds like it doesnt fulfill you bar tending.

but dont care about some imaginary trait like honor. most of the time, what people say is honorable is actually just stupid. is it honorable to fight for your country? sure, it also will most likely kill you and leave you with PTSD for the rest of your life. is it honorable to marry a single mother of two because her life has been unfair? sure. but you have given up your time for someone elses bad choices.

Do what you enjoy. if you dont get any satisfaction bar tending dont do it. or go to school and get a degree in something you think you will enjoy. take some risks, you will fail, but in the end you will grow more and be happier.

just dont something for honor. rarely does it lead to prolonged happiness

[–]tuxedoburrito 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the word of encouragement homie. It helps.

[–]polu85 18 points19 points  (17 children)

Dude fuck this "do what you love shit", do something you are good at and get better at it. Leverage your knowledge. Learn in your 20s, earn in your 30s. By your 30s you should not be a wage slave, you should not be getting paid per hour. Best way to make money is start a business. Product based businesses are best. Followed by service. After that a job in sales is the best. Followed by a good salary. Anything less is bs. You should aim to stop trading hours for money as soon as possible. People will tell you it's not realistic to become a millionaire because they can't do it. There is nothing alpha about being a wage slave and not being in control of your financials, as in someone can fire you at any moment.

Create value, value=money. Or work until you're 65 hoping you don't get laid off while saving 10% of your salary and skimping on fuckin coffees, so you can enjoy your freedom as an old decrepit man.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Dude fuck this "do what you love shit", do something you are good at and get better at it. Leverage your knowledge.

Might just be me, I see those as the same. I don't ascribe to "do what you love" as a cop out, but a way to be mindful.

[–]polu85 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Do what you love is a selfish way of thinking. "I love weaving baskets so people should pay me to do it...because its what I love". No people pay you to provide them with what THEY want/need. Nobody gives a fuck about what you love. Everyone is thinking about what they want. You can be the same as everyone or be different. You'll see opportunities when you listen to people and see what their problems are, not just yours.

[–]hamsterbaiting 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Dude fuck this "do what you love shit"

Dammit! Jerking off and playing video games (sometimes simultaneously) isn't the road to financial freedom?

You know how much money the average jizz-mopper makes per hour? (Clerks)

[–]polu85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just follow your passion...and you'll eventually be broke and hate your passion!

[–]Vay93 2 points2 points [recovered]

Ah. "Do what you love" and "Just be yourself" are my favorite beautiful lies.

[–]polu85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazing people here are still in the matrix about one of them. Two lines that society loves to feed the masses.

[–]SilentAlpha 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Thing is, earning potential doesn't have a thing to do with how much your woman respects you and how well she treats you. Women marry men all the time who make a lot of money and 'own' things but still cheat on them.

[–]polu85 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Lol because you see so many old broke fucks with hot young women right? You ever seen a fat bitch ride shotgun in a lambo?

[–]mrpCamper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In retrospect you are very young and still have TONS of opportunity to figure out what you want to do. Don't piss away the next decade of your life but at that age, you can still do whatever it is you want to do. You have the time.

[–]thatoneguy95 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you really want to move up, then become your boss. The step above you is the step you should strive for. Become the manager of your bar or a different establishment, then keep going from there.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Oil rig worker, coal miner, crabber, all stuff that is high intensity, high danger and high pay. Do that stuff for a few years, put it in the bank and invest in yourself through education so you won't find yourself at 50 breaking your back doing a job meant for 25 yr olds.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Other then oil rig worker those jobs aren't that great.. However, jobs like steel mill, auto manufacturing, industrial electrician pay big bank, good benefits, and are not as rough on the body as they used to be..

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'd rather take out the loans and go to nursing school or medical school. I think it's stupid to take the risk doing those jobs. You might break your back as a 25 year old doing that stuff. Then you have no back and no education.

[–]farnsworth_esq 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Newer lawyer checking in. Law school is for suckers these days. Nurses, anesthesia especially, echo techs, and doctors are worth the investment. Law - not so much. 2 new lawyers for each vacancy that opens up. National stats.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha. Let me edit my comment.

[–]Hamilton950B 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's such a tragedy that bartending doesn't get the respect it deserves in the US. In (some) other parts of the world it's a perfectly respectable career.

[–]docbloodmoney 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Don't you long for the days when divorced women were looked down upon & found it very difficult to remarry? Society today has gone insane.

[–]mrpCamper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess that's one way to put it. You just have to keep improving. Stay fit. Become a better you every day. Time with the boys is your only time off.

[–]spookyman212 2 points3 points  (4 children)

My fiancee is trying to beta me hardcore. Trying to say shit like "our money". No dice bitch. Mabee I'll give you some of my money.

[–]mrpCamper 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's going to be 10x as hard to take that shit back. Best fight the easier fight now. I wish I had known how much leverage I actually had during the engagement phase. I know couples who have kept separate finances for decades now and they are perfectly happy with that arrangement.

[–]Espada18 23 points24 points  (10 children)

Remember, she only gets to see you at your best; when you're dressed up, going out on the town, fucking her at the airport Hilton, etc. When it comes to hubby, she's washing the skid marks out of his underwear while she watches him in a wifebeater, eating a pizza on the couch, watching Pixar movies with the kids. Guess who's winning the tingle battle in her panties, and who's spinning her hamster to rationalize her cheating?

Such is the folly of marriage; when you're married, you have to be on your game 24/7; when you're side dick, you just have to be the answer to her fantasies for 4 to 6 hours.

You've completely put me off marriage, it's funny because the things you said resonate with me as if I've known this hazy truth my whole life, but chose to ignore it.

My question is, what is the answer for men who want to have a family? Are ideal women, who's loyal and deeply loves her husband just a mere myth? Or do these unicorns actually exist?

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 73 points74 points  (4 children)

Well therein lies the rub, doesn't it? See Rollo's new post about "Hats Off to the Bull". The feminine imperative society we live in has seen to it that women will suffer no negative consequences in the pursuit of the satisfaction of their Hypergamy, even if that pursuit leads her onto the cocks of many different Alpha "bulls" whilst married to you.

There is no revenge porn fantasy. In all likelihood, she will not be poor in the streets, she will not die lonely, old, and poor, and she will not spend her days staring blankly in the mirror, lamenting her decisions.

No, instead, the courts will grant her custody of the kids 90% of the time, order you out of your own house for the "stability the household and the sake of the children", and if you managed to keep her around for longer than 10 years, order you to pay lifetime alimony (in many US states) while she simultaneously moves the Alpha Bull into your house, where he continues fucking your ex-wife in your bed. Yes, millions of men out there are quite literally paying their ex wives to ride the cock carousel post-divorce. Let that marinate for a minute.

Society has determined that the sexual strategies of women will not be abated or short sold, no matter what the costs to men, families, or society. Even though 75% of prison convicts come from broken homes, and even though pursuit of hypergamy leads to those broken homes, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how many future home invaders, bank robbers, and murderers it breeds.

Hypergamy knows no societal bounds, period.

So the answer to your question is, I don't think there is an answer to your question. Stable homes require stable societies, and stable societies depend on social (and sexual) moral boundaries. And now that women have shrugged off any shame, guilt, or dispossession about breaking their vows, the idea of "family" is, so very often, a pipe dream; a temporary construct that will only exist so long as the woman's Briffaultian needs and desires are being met.

[–]Daily_Dosage_3 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Replies like this remind me that we are living in some exciting times. Painful times for many? Yes, but at least we have this sub to learn how to protect ourselves.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Not just protect ourselves, but how to maximize our own strategies and enjoy the decline.

[–]an0n4btc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

enjoy the decline

Nothing more we can do. Sure we can educate a few ready to read the sidebar, or help people in other ways and make some bank along the way, but on a global scale this really is the best strategy you can employ.

Enjoying the decline to me means being able to tune out from the negativity around you; crab buckets and other bad influences, taking things in your own stride with a TRP influenced map plan to take on opportunities as they come and avoid common misadventures.

I deliberately call it common with regards to the high divorce rates mentioned previously in TRP.

Selfish? Sure; but you can't afford to be selfless unless you take care of yourself, first (me), second (myself) and, third (I).

I know, stop ranting, but occasionally I see a negative rant at how defeatist some people consider those words. To me, that short and concise phrase is positive and I hope this post goes towards explaining why.

Not sure on origin, though it made a brief re-emergence in (blue pill film) Zombieland, I liken it towards: 'Rule 34: Enjoy the little things.'

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its got to the point where as a man I have to protect my interest,so id just get side pussy.i don't see why I should supress my desires if im constantly having to control hers.what's in it for me?

[–]Smooovies 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Women's love is moment to moment. You can't look at their attachment to you as you look at your attachment to them. When dealing with a girl in a LTR, you're fighting her attempts to rationalize her feelings, while testing your resolve and ability to be alpha.

I'm sure you read most of the stories on here. Which girls are most submissive in relation to their men? Those who have alphas that charge their femininity. Your challenge in any LTR is to keep your frame, i.e., hold onto your value and adhere to your boundaries, and not allow her internal narrative to persuade you to change. Sure, she'll bitch about you being an asshole, but all that's really saying is that she can't control you. It's her breaking frame at the loss of her getting what she wants. Marriage is an issue, because it gives what power you have to walk away from her if she becomes too caught up in her behavior, and gives all of it to her. Whether you like to admit it or not, you're contractually tied to her, well beyond the point of good reason. I contend that you can have a family, sans a marriage, by keeping TRP values in your thought processes and not falling in line with that the popularly suggested "right thing to do." Marriage is a gift to her, but it is not necessary.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jesus. I'm glad I avoided Marriage at the last minute. That sounds like fucking raptor training. Without vacation, or the badassness of having a goddamn velociraptor.

My dog is the only thing I'm attached to.

[–]bgny 24 points25 points  (0 children)

The way I see it, if you aren't put off marriage after taking the pill, you haven't swallowed. Unicorns do not exist. If you want a family You better learn Redpill philosophy inside and out and constantly game your wife. Now, some women will be less of a challenge than others. Awalt means all women have the same nature, not that they have the same behavior. It's not about finding a unicorn, it's about finding a woman you can handle. Even then, a woman may change over the course of a marriage, so don't slack off.

For me, fuck kids. If that's the only reason to "settle down", what you will have to give up for it is not worth it in today's world. Maybe 50 years ago. The moment you get on your knees and propose you are fighting an uphill battle. Some men will never be content until they have a family, but you should talk to a few of the divorced ones who had the same dream before you step off that cliff.

[–]RedHeimdall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I definitely want kids, but post TRP truth bombs re:marriage, I am not going to get married. It might be tough, but I'm going to stick to my guns and pick a girl for a LTR and kids but refuse to marry. I'll explain why, and if she doesn't get on board, then we'll be done. I'm just not going to open myself up to divorce rape, and if she -- after learning the facts -- can't understand with that decision, respect it, and accept it, then she doesn't get to be the mother of my kids.

[–]cariboo_j 19 points20 points  (2 children)

I think OP's case is a self-selecting sample.

Married women that go out drinking at bars without their husbands are intending to cheat.

You don't see the non-cheating wives because they're at home doing family stuff... not out getting sloshed trying to relive their CC glory days.

What we can take from this is if you're married and your wife is frequently out drinking at bars without you, it's time to call a lawyer.

I'm calling NAWALT in this case. Don't marry at all, but if you do don't marry bitches that go out partying without you.

[–]1oldredder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

last married woman to hit on me was at the bar WITH her husband. Didn't matter.

[–]CormacD123 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Married women are indeed some of the easiest lays out there, and it all comes down to one maxim that I remember reading somewhere:

When gaming a married woman, you don't have to be better than every man out there; you just have to be better than her husband.

This applies to almost any girl who's so much as seeing someone else out at a bar. If they look slightly bored or uninterested in who their with and you're able to gain their attention in any shape or form, they are easy but dangerous game.

[–]xmabden 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Agreed with two additional thoughts:

  • No man fills all the needs of any chick, as a player, you just have to find what those needs that are missing from the hubby.

  • If the player takes all the responsibility for her fucking you ("it just happened") the legs spread that much faster.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

This is what I don't understand.im meant to stay faithful and supress my polygamous desires whilst having to try my best to stop her from acting her hypergamy,and even if im alpha 24/7,she still might cheat? What the fuck do I get out of it?

[–]mrpCamper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Correct. This is EXACTLY what is meant by the red pill analogy. It ain't what you've been told all your life. But that is a big "Might". She might not. No way to tell. She may also just divorce you and take half your shit. Then get back on the CC for a while before landing her next sucker. Remember, she is unaware of this RP truth and will believe she can still get whatever she thought she wanted/deserved from her first marriage on her second try. however, many married RP men believe that knowing RP and practicing it will keep your wife in check.

[–]Kid_Crimson 4 points5 points  (0 children)

when you're side dick, you just have to be the answer to her fantasies for 4 to 6 hours.

Spot on! This is what makes it work so well for me. I've got lots of other things to do with the rest of my time.

[–]CzechFreak 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You don't have to be better than her husband. It's enough to be different.

[–]elruary 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never want to get married...

[–]2akurate 0 points1 point  (5 children)

What does TRP mean when it says don't get married? Does it mean that you can't have long term relationships or that you simply don't get officially recognized?

Because when I was having one night stands a couple of times a week I would feel empty after a while, I don't think fucking around is fulfilling in the long run, I'm still trying to make out how to combine all these ideas into a long term relationship model.

Waddya think?

[–]loin_fruit 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Honestly, I think if you're not feeling fulfilled from one night stands, it's because you don't have enough going on in your life outside of one night stands and working.

Find hobbies, set goals, accomplish, get busy, and be a person who has experience doing a lot of shit, so when you have conversations with people, they're excited to hear your stories. Also, you'll be busy enough to give a fuck less about being fulfilled from one night stands and finding a LTR or a wife.

[–]2akurate 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I don't agree, at the time I was studying Chinese in China in one of the central expat regions of the capital well known for it's very bustling student life. I could go on in detail as to my life there but I don't see the point in it, suffice it to say I was living a very busy life with at times severe lack of sleep due to the fun I was having and multiple jobs I was juggling. During this I was also attending classes and furthering my grasp of the Chinese language, something I plan to use later on in my professional career.

I'v had some LTR's in this period and they fulfilled a completely different part in my life, they brought something that is otherwise not possible to get. My thinking here perhaps goes against the grain of TRP where everybody wants to become a serial fucker and badboy entrepeneur. There has formed around TRP a grotesque image of itself that is not in touch with reality I feel. We discount many of the dynamics of personal relationships and chock them up into a few broad catagories namely beta, alpha, awalt...

TRP gives a lot of people confidence, Iv seen it in myself and friends. But I don't feel we should stop having children nor should we stop having LTR's, you can pretend to be an iron man too big for life who is beyond all plebian impulses and shines above the flock with a Saint like splendour, but such men rarely exist and not all men need the same in life.

This being an echo chamber after all I didn't expect anyone to break the mold when replying to me.

And for the record, yes I lift, probably more frequently than 80% of the guys here.

[–]1oldredder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'v had some LTR's in this period and they fulfilled a completely different part in my life, they brought something that is otherwise not possible to get.

like what? Love? Does she take care of you like a king?

[–][deleted] 107 points108 points  (38 children)

I have been in a massive anger phase (part 2)

Im fucking lots of married women and the shit they tell me is shocking.

Be AF. Beta bucks is not the place to be

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 87 points88 points  (16 children)

the shit they tell me is shocking.

For a short time, you can get an unfiltered dose of their true selves.

This comment epitomizes hidden female nature, "Women DO want betas... to pay the bills and be the nice guy while they fuck alphas on the side. I've had women in my bed -- one literally riding me with my cock pushing into her cervix -- pick up the phone during sex, talk to boyfriend, and tell him that she loves him... while my bare, naked dick flexes while filling her wet pussy."

[–][deleted] 72 points73 points  (2 children)

One woman buys me presents. She doesnt work so guess who paid for that fitbit

[–]blacwidonsfw 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Nice she should lose her fitbit and then her husband can get her a new one and you guys can have matching ones! Then she can show her husband how she "went on a run" last night and look at all the steps she got fucking you.

[–]Spaceduck4000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's so dark it's just funny

[–]1jb_trp 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Women DO want betas... to pay the bills and be the nice guy while they fuck alphas on the side.

This is why divorce (and the accompanying child support/alimony) is such a great sexual strategy for women. They can get their bux and not even have to deal with the beta. They're free to ride the CC again.

[–]Francois_Rapiste 4 points5 points  (2 children)

deleted What is this?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

And its creating generations of enlightened men. That would have never happened if womens behavior was contained. I would never be here now. Id still be in WN, BP heaven. Women made me what I am today. For that I owe them, sadly I didnt do it on my own accord.

[–]Francois_Rapiste 1 point2 points  (0 children)

deleted What is this?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

God that makes me cringe. I very well could've been on the wrong end of that exchange and never knew it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea.....well...at least now you wont be surprised and you can replace the bitch with another one. Its only as hard as you make it to.be

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of the guys in here probably have a time or two. I know I was.

[–]Daily_Dosage_3 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Did you save that comment from another thread? That is fucking golden.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Yeah, that was somebody's comment from a while back. I added it into my redpill notes because it was so fucking raw.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How do you collect RP notes?... I'd like to do that too

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would write segments on various topics and use nut-grabbing quotes from TRP to add provocative colour. Writing helps me explore ideas and lock them down a little better. Sharing them back on TRP inevitably takes things that much further. Some great minds and candid voices here.

Example of my notes are in my previous posts, such as "Welcome to Our SJW Nightmare." You'll see a lot of quotes included as "Red Pill Viewpoints," mostly taken from TRP. And some of the comments from that post then went back into my notes to strengthen the material that much more.

Curating content is every bit as useful as creating. And there's a goldmine of good stuff here.

The hard part is sharing it with others. It's too potent for a sheltered mind to digest.

[–]Kelspa 23 points24 points  (5 children)

I'm an older ( 48 ) Redpiller for the last 2 years. Dating woman my age is an eye opener. They all got the house, kids, and money in the divorce. Everything they say they want in a guy is Redpill, and everything they say about the EX is bluepill ( and how much they hated him for it). So yeah it was shocking to me to hear some of the stuff.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Shocking how blind women are to their own mating strategy.

I guess that's how they hid it from the majority of men.

[–]malariasucks 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I just don't understand why so many women want to be so in control but then ruin what they get

[–]1independentmale 8 points9 points  (1 child)

They don't want to be in control. It's a shit test. She only wants to know if she can control you. If the answer is yes, then you're no longer a suitable mate.

Think about it: How are you supposed to protect and provide for her if you're so easily manipulated? If she's got you under her thumb then she fancies herself better than you and if that's the case, what the hell does she need you for? Not a goddamn thing.

Women throw away perfectly good husbands every day because they've lost all respect for the guy. Once he's turned control over to her, she begins to emasculate him, challenging his manhood, withdrawing sex and so on. Next thing you know you're a veritable pet with a paycheck.

[–]loin_fruit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I work at a store currently, it's insane how often I see men come and buy shit, ask why it's out, I explain, then they go "ah looks like the wife will be upset, sent me out here and now I'll have to tell her I couldn't get it. To the doghouse I go" they chuckle after and act like it's a joke.

But it's crazy how often I get told similar things, or that how often they say that they don't want to upset the wife/warden/the boss at home for not coming home with the right product.

So sad.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They are programed by decades of social conditioning to think that way. Oh its packaged very convincingly. But women arent smart enough to realize that its destroying them. American women have never been more miserable than they are now. Depression and psychological problems are off the fucking charts. And theyve never had more power and control than they have now. How do you destroy a woman? Give her everything she wants. She will implode. Women can not self regulate. Its not their nature.

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I remember my anger phase, it was the best thing that happened to me. Just remember its not good bad right or wrong. It just is. Embrace it until you are ready to move forward

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just remember its not good bad right or wrong. It just is.

Exactly. This is the hardest thing to overcome.

It's not good or bad. It's not "they should" or "they shouldn't" do x. All that matter is: is it true or is it false. Do not focus on what ought to be.

[–]fittitthroway 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Some examples of stuff they say?

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (4 children)

I could go on and on....

Openly complaining to husband on phone when he went away for evening leaving her to tend to kids while.actually having a sitter come over as she booked hotel for us.

See my post about married plate lying..same woman

[–]1theoctopuss 2 points3 points  (2 children)

She sounds really stupid, to boot. She didn't even think of the possibility of one the little shits tattling on her.

All she's got on her mind is alpha cock. No rationality.

[–]NightGod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The kids don't care. All they know is they got a fun night at the babysitter's and if they say anything to daddy they won't get to do it again.

[–]Tom_The_Human 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I love nothing more than a slut who's married or in an LTR and talks shit behind her hubby's back to me.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Me too. I have been cheated on by every woman I ever committed to. I know it's "wrong" but at least now I am in on the joke

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're a brave man amongst friends.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They all do it. They have some serious contempt for their betas that they're cheating on.

[–]PremiumGoose 55 points56 points  (3 children)

"Forgot things at your place".Classic trickery to ensure seeing you again.

[–]StrokeGameHusky 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I'd read that text with a smile, knowing full well she needed more

[–]Sherlock--Holmes 46 points47 points  (2 children)

I knew this by about age 20 in Miami because there were no shortage of married women ready, willing, drunk, and able for me and my friends. It was 50/50 every single night. We knew "girls night out" meant "girls night out to cheat." I'm 48 now and still not married.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Miami in the 80s must have been the ultimate red pill.... Got any good stories you can remember?

[–]Sherlock--Holmes 10 points11 points  (0 children)

A few cliche events like my friend running down the street naked in Coconut Grove being chased by a husband. A friend of mine who delivered water during the day got laid constantly by housewives at home. A friend of mine banged a woman outside the county jail as she wait to get her husband out (who was a rich business owner). A woman I thought was single gave me her number in Virginia and after she flew back whispered to me never to call there again. I think the 90's were worse than the 80's - maybe because I was still a teen in the 80's.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 20 points21 points  (1 child)

You should feel lucky

You should be thankful that she even looked at you from her self-made pedestal! Hahaha, go fuck yourself.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"About as lucky as someone catching AIDS"

[–]PremiumGoose 13 points14 points  (0 children)

"Forgot something at your place". Classic trickery to ensure a chance to see you again.

[–]Killigraphy 15 points16 points  (0 children)

"I never let milfs back into my house, you should feel honored" - Alpha B. Wellington

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (13 children)

Out of interest what car are you driving?

Daily reminder never to get married.

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 18 points19 points  (11 children)

I was drinking so we uber'ed back to my place. She saw my 300zx and my 280z.

[–]fall0ut 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Oh sweet. I drive a 350 and get pretty much the same reaction.

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I love my Z's. Dat 370 tho! Nice ass, right?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

shit breaks down a lot tho.

[–]TheRiseAndFall 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's life with a Z. I set aside about 5k/year for repairs on mine. Just get two and you're set!

[–]Aok4twentay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

07 350z here, can confirm it's ability to give tingles.

[–]8shark8 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Can you link a pic of the Z's? I love Z's

[–]_eskimo_brothers_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For science I'm curious too.

I miss my panty dropper car, for myself though, not for panty dropping abilities.

This isn't a new story, but the frequency of these stories needs to be instilled into the newbies.

[–]grewapair 12 points13 points  (4 children)

What's always amazing is how they brag to their next lover how badly they treated their last one.

I had a woman ask me out and then go on and on about how she had basically just been using her husband for money until he finally got smart and divorced her. He was sleeping on the sofa.

Then she couldn't figure out why I wouldn't go out with her a second time. Um, if that's how badly you treat men, no thanks.

But why she ever told me is a mystery. It's as if her actions were not a bad thing in her mind.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 2 points3 points  (1 child)

She was accustomed to sport fucking alpha guys that were accustomed to being the side piece for married women and thought that you were the same - just after some ass (no relationship). I mean, if you're just after a fuck, what do you care what she does when she's not with you, as long as she fucks you?

[–]One_friendship_plz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But why she ever told me is a mystery.

I been trying to figure this out the longest, being a SO is such a raw deal, you could get ALL the info on a woman if you're both not committed. She'll tell you about the hundreds of guys she fucked, how often she cheated yet you couldn't get an ounce of info on anything about a woman once you're officially together.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

“I didn’t even give my husband blowjobs, you should feel lucky.” ~ Plate

I would respond, "I get blowjobs all the time and they usually are polite enough to say thank you when I come."

[–]Lyradex 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of my last fling. Married, husband was traveling for work long term.

She had a boyfriend on the side, he got locked up for some stupid shit.

Then there was me, the sex on the side. I went full exploratory on her, spelunking her holes harder than a cave diver.

She would constantly babble on between the sex, rationalizing why it was okay to come to my place nearly every night and sneak back home around sunrise.

Just.... them hamsters. Powerful.

[–]Sherlock--Holmes 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Most likely she blocked you on FB to keep you from contacting her husband and friends and telling them about the whore she is. That's my thinking.

[–]UgUgImDyingYouIdiot 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I read that quote at the bottom and thought it was credited to Plato. Had to read it three times before it made sense.

[–]loin_fruit 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Did you not notice the ring on her finger, or did she take it off?

Some of the easiest women are married, they're crying for cock more. Life at home is boring dealing with the boring BB. They see their single friends party hard and have fun still, while they're not doing shit but career and hanging out with the BB watching netflix every day.

Boring life to live, what could be more exciting? Oh yes, Chad Thundercock.

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I didn't find out till we were eating the next day. Her rings where in her purse the whole time.

[–]loin_fruit 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Interesting. Think you'll turn her into a plate or no?

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Nah. This plate has been long since broken. Drama is high and is not worth my time.

[–]loin_fruit 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I think that's what stops a lot of men from pursuing married women. The drama, and inconsistency. They'll give you amazing sex, but you have to ask yourself is it worth it.

Good report op.

[–]triperfecta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So true..

..but at least they spend money on you and have income and a family to lose if they fuck things up.

[–]GoldPisseR 13 points14 points  (25 children)

Just hope her husband isn't a maniac. These guys go after the guys their wives cheated on them with and not the sluts themselves.

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 8 points9 points  (24 children)

Honestly I wish them both the best. I hope we realizes what she is doing is damaging and I hope he find the red pill. Neither one of them are bad people just people who make poor decisions.

[–]faded_jester 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Marriage is the Sword of Damocles with no reward attached to the risk.

[–]darkrood 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Probably it's like the movie "Hall Pass." Married women had a full week full of fun with the high school boys. Afterwards, the marriage with the hubby is "stronger than ever".

A womanizing film that is subtly encouraging women to cheat. Torrent this garbage if you have to.

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I seent it! Fucking hate that movie so much. It was so bluepill and sickening it was unreal.

[–]Chaohinon 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Being cheated on in a lovey dovey state of mind is hard enough. Being the other man is...hard to describe. Simultaneously gratifying and depressing. I can't say I'm jaded enough to keep it up, but it was certainly a learning experience, one that's impossible to come back from.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It really kills you inside a bit doesnt it. That first time you really think about it,aybe even a week or two afterwards. Then you realise you could do it again forever and die a little each time until you are just a machine doing what he evolved to do, emotionlessly, or you stop now and go moral, despite your wisdom teaching you that morality in fidelity is a scam and the only absolute is do-or-don't-do

[–]2Overkillengine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Those of you who shun me and tell me to watch for beta husband. Its my cock and my risk. If beta confronts me I'll cross that bridge when it comes.

Hey at least you admit there are risks instead of endorsing it as objectively the greatest thing ever and leading some thirst muddled fools reading this into thinking they can act without consequence.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If she's going to cheat, she's going to cheat. It doesn't matter if it's with you, or somebody else. You might as well enjoy it.

[–]Robdogx9001 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You don't even need to be better than their husband. You just need to make her feel better than he does in that one moment.

[–]alritealritealrite 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right? I've been talking to this girl for awhile and we're making plans. I know she has a boyfriend but she hasn't said anything and I haven't asked. It's just one of those things.

[–]NidStyles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude that husband of her's has no idea what she was doing while she was apart from him. I bet she was cheating the whole time, and it was just that once that she actually got caught.

[–]ShitfacedBatman 3 points3 points [recovered]

How do you ensure hypergamy prevention?

You know they all want to move in, or "boyfriend" you, or worst case get pregnant. How do you ensure you can throw 'em back to the shit-boyfriend they came from?

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Stay emotionally distant. Think of it this way... She will cheat on you. She will lie to you. She will use you. She wants you as an accessory to her life to gloat and brag to all her friends.

[–]idonthaveacoolname13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is why any smart man would never ever get married.

[–]LegSnapper206 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn man. Thanks for that post, that is some real fucked up business.

[–]WilliamGrand 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I didn’t even give my husband blowjobs, you should feel lucky." ~ Plate.


[–]pantsoffire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So... she's kind of a good girl to let you know she is a cheating wife and is still currently married... Realistically. She is a also a normal woman, RE mushy + "Husband bjs, feel privilaaged." She's being honest. I feel this is an above average female. Possibly has a conscience- relatively speaking. So... Never get fucking married or you ARE the chump. No fucking unicorns, no special allowances, no bullshit. Never get fucking married. Unsure? google divorce rape and read through every fucking comment. Fuck.

[–]eatpraymantis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also to those who don't read, I didn't know she was married until the next say. Those of you who shun me and tell me to watch for beta husband. Its my cock and my risk. If beta confronts me I'll cross that bridge when it comes.

those that dont understand this should read The Iliad, and decide if they'd wanna be the kind of man who Achilles was or the kind Agamemnon was

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who else immediately wondered what car he drove when they first initially read the story haha. I know I did.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Good post.

Women are unaccountable, and there are no repercussions at all for her even if she's caught in the act.

[–]VegasHostTre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because theirs a beta who will always forgive her

[–]plentyoffishes 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Hope you're using protection.

[–]plentyoffishes 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Downvoted because STDs are a myth.

[–]rojo-pildora[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Before you attack her wrap your whacker. Amazon has amazing deals on condoms.

[–]ChrisBenRoy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Can vouch. I work for them. I got 50 for like 15 bucks once.

[–]NeutralNeutrall 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Any good brands you recommend?

[–]hazimmm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why are western women so screwed up?

[–]thegr8b8m8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not your fault. This bitch would have cheated on just about any half ass acting alpha that night. She was on a mission to fuck around on her husband and your the lucky dick that walked up and talked to her. Thanks for the insight into the mind of woman.

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