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Field ReportSpun Plates. Got Herpes. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Barles_Chukowski

tl;dr if you spin plates long enough, you will get herpes.

You ever notice how the Red Pill response to everything is "spin plates?" It's good advice. Abundance Mentality and all that. But one thing to remember is that one in six Americans has Herpes Simplex Virus 2. More than half of Americans have Herpes Simplex Virus 1. Most people who have the virus don't know they're carriers, because they don't have outbreaks, but they still shed contagious flecks of herpyskin.

Condoms don't protect you. Washing your dick doesn't protect you. I use condoms with every girl every time, and I lather my cock down with soap and hot water religiously after sex. But I just got back from the doc. They're running a culture, but the little rash on my dick is probably the herp.

Just for reference, I've slept with 19 women, 0 men. I know, that's not very many. That's kind of my point. There were no visible signs of active inflamation or infection on any of my previous sexual partners, but if 1/6 Americans has HSV-2, 3 or 4 of the girls I slept with were probably carriers, even if they didn't know it.

So, anyway, now that I've got the herp, my sexual market value is basically zero for anybody who doesn't have the herp. Now I have to break up with all my plates and start from scratch on herpes dating websites. So far the prospects look even worse than regular online dating.

Lessons Learned: You will get herpes if you spin plates long enough.


[–]grewapair 88 points89 points  (20 children)

Unmarried Women between 40 and 50 have a 70 percent infection rate.

DR. LEONE: So if you look at some population-based data in the United States and look at unmarried adults, meaning folks between the ages of 45 and 50, for women, we know the prevalence rate for genital herpes due to HSV-2 is between 50 and 70 percent. So we’re looking at close to the majority or the majority of folks in that age group who are single having genital herpes. So…

FLATOW: Let me go over that number again because you’re saying that – it’s hard to believe – you’re saying that for women between the age of 40 and 50…

Dr. LEONE: Right.

FLATOW: … unmarried women?

Dr. LEONE: Yes, unmarried women.

FLATOW: You’re saying that between 50 and 75 percent of them have herpes type 2?

Dr. LEONE: That’s exactly right. Yeah.

FLATOW: Wow.

Dr. LEONE: I know. It causes me to pause. I read the article about five times myself, saying, wow, and I do this for a living.

http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2011/04/latest-genital-herpes

[–]grrruuummmmpppyy 42 points43 points  (4 children)

The 70% is in the unmarried non-hispanic black group.

For non-hispanic white the percentage indicated by the survey for unmarried women in their 40's is 40%.

Source: I analyze CDC's NHANES Herpes lab results as a hobby.

Edit: for completeness sake the Mexican american ethic group it was 34% but their prevalence of HSV-1 was 90% which is higher than both the white and black ethnic groups.

[–]LeFlamel 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Edit: for completeness sake the Mexican american ethic group it was 34% but their prevalence of HSV-1 was 90% which is higher than both the white and black ethnic groups.

This is most likely explained by cultural mores. French and Spanish speaking cultures both use cheek kissing as a form of greeting depending on the level of familiarity. I've read somewhere that it results in higher transmission rates of illnesses like the flu in those regions, so I wouldn't be too surprised if it resulted in high transmission rates of HSV-1 in the Hispanic population.

[–]grrruuummmmpppyy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That has been my assumption too.

[–]coffin_car 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Worked at a factory that was mostly Romanian and Eastern European workers, they have the same kissing tradition and they also have more herpes.

[–]FangoFett 38 points39 points  (12 children)

If you are herpes free, stick with the younger girls. There is still risks, but cougars will most likely have that shit.

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    [–]TekkomanKingz 11 points12 points  (2 children)

    OK bud - Here's the big question - Did you wear a condom genius???

    HSV or HPV doesn't cause burning when you urinate - So I'm assuming you are referring to the Clap.

    [–]p3ndulum 175 points176 points  (7 children)

    welcome to the Tinder generation

    [–]evileddy 14 points15 points  (5 children)

    Maybe Tinder is how they track the spreading of disease?

    [–]p3ndulum 42 points43 points  (4 children)

    STD ‘epidemic’ caused by Tinder, Grindr, say U.S. health officials

    I'm not sure how you could track the spread of an STD through Tinder, to be honest.

    [–]evileddy 27 points28 points  (1 child)

    Take all the texts that go something like "Thanks for the great anal last night.. see ya on the weekend" and cross reference medical databases on who has what disease.

    [–]1User-31f64a4e 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Rhode Island health officials are blaming hookup apps, such as Tinder and Grindr, for sparking an “epidemic” of sexually transmitted diseases in the state.

    Officials are blaming - not offering proof.
    They took a wild ass guess is how they know.

    [–]HeadingRed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's why I keep my phone out of my pants.

    [–][deleted] 408 points409 points  (23 children)

    That's why you don't base your life around fucking as many women as possible. The point of TRP is to detatch from the need to sacrifice your self respect for a woman or women.

    Personally, my body is my temple. Just like I am picky with what I put in it, I am picky with who I put it in.

    [–]madrealworld 58 points59 points  (0 children)

    on point. its really very simple..

    [–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (5 children)

    Admittedly I haven't adopted this philosophy yet, I'm working on improving myself but I still put a lot of value on getting laid, fear of missing out so to speak.

    [–]ThundercuntIII 39 points40 points  (0 children)

    At least you're honest about it. Now you can actively do something

    [–]1jb_trp 13 points14 points  (3 children)

    I totally understand you. I think that changes over time too. How old are you? When I was in my 20s sex was everything. It was such a strong biological drive I would do just about anything to get laid. Now that I'm in my 30s, sex is nice, but I want more out of life. I enjoy the balance and focus even more now (and definitely have more sex... It's ironic).

    Eventually sex is going to mean less and less and then some day I'm not going to have sex anymore. I don't know how old I'll be when this happens. 60? Who knows. My point: You need to find a mission in life that more than chasing girls.

    [–]Billytown 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Geriatric sex is a very real thing. I heard a piece on NPR a while back about STD's in nursing homes. Gross... But only from our perspective. When we're old, we'll be sticking it in grandmas too.

    [–]iamaguythrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    So all the grandma/grandpa porn is based on real life?

    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Very well said. This is why you must improve your value in all different areas in life because if you want quality, you gotta be quality.

    [–]Overzealous_BlackGuy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    I think people would understand trp more if this was emphasized more. You can't possibly have the right mebtality while having your main focus on women.

    [–]DocRedPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    You just defined TRP, in the way I see it, in a sentence. Many new comers here come asking for advice with women, especially in the IRC where I more frequent. It's understandable, but they don't get to the core of making himself a better man. He just comes for pickup lines. It's important to differentiate the two, and while we may talk pickup, we aren't PUAs.

    Most of the regulars in the IRC talk more about self betterment, and just general bullshit during the day, than "how to pick up chicks".

    [–]Ismoketomuch 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    Herpes - men vs women total population.

    Men - 10% Woman - 22%

    50-70% of women in between 45-50 years old who are not married have herpes.

    Women by race

    50% of black women have herpes.

    40% of Mexican women have herpes

    16% of white women have herpes

    Men by race

    30% of black men have herpes

    15% of hispanic men have herpes

    10% of white men have herpes

    [–]CAlgaryimport 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Even though women lie about their promiscuity the STD data doesn't lie. You can see which groups have the most sex (and/or more often have unprotected sex?). I.e women more then men, Blacks more then Mexican's ect.

    [–]grrruuummmmpppyy 57 points58 points  (19 children)

    Just to add to your HSV-2 stats, women are twice as likely to carry HSV-2 than men so the statistics are more like 1 in 5 for women and 1 in 8 for men. Also as it's a lifelong infection the 1 in 5 is reached around late 20's/early 30's, 1 in 4 by mid/late 30's and 1 in 3 for people in their 40's. Also higher in the unmarried population than the general population.

    So many people seems to think that genital herpes is uncommon its not funny.

    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (10 children)

    So you're saying I should go gay until I'm ready to have kids?

    [–]tripwire1 24 points25 points  (8 children)

    I mean, HIV is for life also.

    [–]my-alt 4 points5 points  (6 children)

    HIV is also much more serious but has much lower prevalence and is MUCH harder to transmit, particularly female to male, even if you don't use condoms. If you do use a condom your chances of getting HIV from sex with a random white woman in the US is one in something like ten million. Your chances of getting herpes is significantly higher than that. But it's also an insignificant disease that amounts to no more than a mild skin rash for most people, if even that (the symptoms tend to go away with time).

    [–]collidoscope 48 points49 points  (15 children)

    Herpes has a huge stigma, mostly from the TV commercials in the 90s, I believe. I caught a strain from kissing a girl. I haven't been tested yet but I plan on it once I get out of monk mode. When I confronted the girl about it she told me she thought it "wasn't a big deal" to get cold sores. I was pissed off and I'm still pissed off about it.  

    How many of those 19 women asked you if you had any STDs? Did the girl you slept with inform you that she had it before she gave it to you? Do we as men have to hold ourselves to a higher standard?  

    Lots of high and mighty TRPers on here casting blame. A lot of the commenters act like you'll be able to spot it because the chick will be foaming at the mouth with a needle coming out of her arm. Guaranteed some of these commenters have a strain and don't know it.

    [–]bangbangohio 22 points23 points  (1 child)

    Was looking for a comment talking about the stigma. Herpes isn't really that big of a deal. The stigma was intentionally created in the late 70s and 80s when a Pharma company discovered that their drug was useful for fighting herpes outbreaks. Sadly, no one cares about herpes back then and there was no stigma so they couldn't sell the product.

    They embarked on a scare campaign to trudge up demand for their drug and were quite successful. We should really be talking about how despite creating this stigma, they've barely managed to put a dint in the infection rates.

    Edit: dnd free, for the record. Dated a girl who was infected and got real knowledgeable before taking the plunge.

    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Finally...... Someone with the facts. This is the way our culture was pushed to body deodorant too. (Just spreading nerd knowledge) Stay healthy, and you'll only get 2, maybe 3 outbreaks your entire life.

    [–]the_red_scimitar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Most people show no symptoms, and a huge percentage don't know they carry it.

    I had a plate who had had it for 30 years, and had only passed it to the one person, before she found out she had it. She's very sexually active, but learned how to manage the risk (including refusing sex when she knew the risk was higher for her partner). I did not get herpes from her.

    The stigma is entirely created by pharma companies to sell VERY expensive, often lifetime/daily, drugs that don't do much more than you can get (assuming a normal immune system) from very healthy diet.

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    [–]mryddlin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    ahh you do realize that 'cold sores' are just herpes right?

    While it's super common it is still herpes and you can transmitted it to genitals while you have an outbreak or just before.

    [–]1sardinemanR 43 points44 points  (9 children)

    http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stdsstis/statistics/

    So it's a 50-50 shot of getting an STD, and 80% of women have HPV.

    If STDs really scare you, the only real choice is MGTOW and marrying a virgin (probably not from the US though, good luck finding one here).

    I think most people spinning plates don't care.

    [–]trphardmode 16 points17 points  (4 children)

    Most women 16-20 have the HPV vaccine. And I've seen promising news on herpes vaccine. The currently matriculating concubine class is going to be the cleanest yet.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    deleted What is this?

    [–]the_red_scimitar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The interesting thing about a vaccine is, excluding anti-vaxxers, if this becomes prevalent, then people with Herpes cease to have the social stigma, since if you're inoculated, you generally don't need to care if the partner got it before the vaccine existed.

    The news on the vaccine is a bit shaky - but related viruses are being figured out (including a whole family that includes the common cold and many others). They are finding even that some specifically sequenced combinations of antivirals become effective when any one of them is ineffective.

    [–]RemyPrice 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Herpes is so common, by the next generation it will be akin to having chicken pox.

    One PUA said "if you don't have it, it will be clear you're a loser who can't get laid."

    I think the stigma is naturally dying off as it gains mass acceptance is all that is really happening.

    [–]mismm 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    These comments are fucking ridiculous. Spinning plates is not about having as many ONS or fucking as many girls as you can. It's about having options, quality options.

    If you have a life, this means having 2-5 max girls on rotation. I challenge anyone here to deal with more than that and successfully maintain them spinning.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    tbh once I got over 3 your life BECOMES fucking girls. They will usually want to see you once a week at least. Do that for more than ~3 girls and that is a constant time suck just to have sex. If you have any hobbies at all it really isnt worth it

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    [–]Newreddawn 36 points37 points  (30 children)

    For real. Yeast from a chick can give you a rash, razorburn can give you a rash, ingrown hairs... Dying a thousand deaths until you are actually diagnosed brah

    [–]The_BeardedGentleman 12 points13 points  (24 children)

    Also this. I thought I had herpes like 4 times before I actually got it. Any old rash on our cock and we freak the fuck out. Herpes is really fucking obvious though. Its not just a rash and you'll fucking know why when you have an outbreak.

    [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (15 children)

    My doctor thought I had herpes. Wanted to prescribe herpes medicine. I said no dude, test me first. Test was negative.

    [–]my-alt 10 points11 points  (3 children)

    Herpes tests are notoriously unreliable. The false negative rate on them can be as high as 70% which is unbelievably high.

    As in, up to 70% of people who DO have herpes will test negative for it.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Good info. Fortunately it was yeast-related.

    [–]redestofthereds 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Same shit here, man. Some fucking quack lady at a STD clinic (who discouraged her son from having sex in college) made me thought that I had herpes.She didn't even bother to test me she just looked at my dick and was like "yup, it's herpes."

    I was living in mental hell for months until I finally got my blood tested. It was negative but I thought maybe I was reading it wrong or something as the results were online and it doesn't explicitly tell you. So I did another blood test but that time it was where you call and they tell you your results. I still came out negative and I still couldn't believe it. I called again but this time with my then gf listening in and yup I was negative.

    I don't know what was on my dick but a dr who I saw before going to the std clinic suggested that it could've been chancroid but he himself was sure it was herpes. He gave me medication for both and it was before the blood tests, so who knows. Lesson here: always push to get tested.

    [–]The_BeardedGentleman 7 points8 points  (7 children)

    People forget that bitches vaginas can have negative effects on them that aren't stds. After the second rash via yeast infected chick I realized what the fuck was happening.

    [–]mryddlin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    YES!!

    there are a ton of bacterial infections that can be passed on that are NOT classified as STI's.

    It's because you can get them from other vectors but they can pass through sexual contact.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    what test was ran. swabs itself are not 100% effective, hell they're not even 75% effective

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I believe it was a blood test.

    [–]Oakland_dude 7 points8 points  (11 children)

    I was convinced I had the clap a few weeks ago. This chick said i was the only dude she fucked without a condom. She tested positive. For a week I felt a burning when I peed. I stressed about how I was going to lose all my plates after I had to tell them. 7 days later my test came back negative. One of the happiest moments of my life.

    TL/DR: wait till you know for sure buddy.

    [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (2 children)

    REtest in like a month dude

    [–]Oakland_dude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That's sound advice. I get tested almost every month. It was also enough of of a scare that I'm being much more careful.

    [–]The_Junto 43 points44 points  (12 children)

    STDs have long been a huge phobia of mine and are what I consider to be the biggest hindrance towards my progression down the red pill path. I have a low partner count not necessarily from lack of success with women but as a result of my terrible anxiety when it comes to STDs. I tend to ltr girls after I know they are completely safe and develop oneitis not necessarily from an emotional standpoint but from a practical health stand point as ridiculous as that sounds. I want to have the ability to go out and fuck chicks worry free but I just can't over that anxiety that it will fuck with the rest of my life. Anyone else have similar phobias?

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      [–]foldpak111 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Shit I conversed with her too at the AVN awards last year. Cool chick

      [–]MordorsFinest 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      I fucked a lot of escorts...a lot... I dont know where to get tested as i keep moving countries but i havent had any symptoms.

      I'd still avoid it though i am a lot calmer as a result of it.

      [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 47 points48 points  (13 children)

      I'll probably get downvoted for this (and as far as I know, I don't have it myself, but it is certainly possible), but herpes is not a big deal. At all. In fact, you almost certainly had HSV-1 (which can be, but isn't as often genital - it usually infects the lips) before contractng HSV-2. You say 50%, but I've seen estimates of 80%-90% as well. Hell, if the rash on your junk is herpes, it easily could be HSV-1 from a girl that gave you a blowjob.

      The vast majority of people are asymptomatic, if you have sex with more than about 5 partners you should pretty much assume you have a good chance of having it/have been exposed to it, and STD tests do not catch it unless you pay for a very expensive one.

      For people who are symptomatic, typically the symptoms go away between 2-4 breakouts (which is not the horrorific rash people typically mention, but maybe a slightly itchy, tiny bump), and just don't come back unless you have a weak immune system (very elderly, or let's say you went for weeks with low sleep and tons of stress on a major project).

      As far as I can tell, accusations of herpes are mostly ways for girls to keep other girls in line. The only reason it is, "scary" is because it's "uncurable" - because tiny viral reservoirs can exist in your body - your "viral load", to use an HIV term can be basically completely nil, with no chance of infection for anyone, and you've still got "herpes".

      You probably also have HPV (and if you don't, you likely will).

      Getting minor STDs is a risk you take when you decide to play this game. This is really not a big deal.

      This will probably be hated advice but here it is:

      Neither men nor women get tested for herpes. It isn't a big deal (compared to the freakout), most people have some form of it (HSV-1 can be genital, and HSV-2 can be on your lips, they're just more common in the other location), doctor's know that, hence the lack of testing for it (and the fact that it's expensive). Everyone acts like it is a big deal, but nobody truly cares. Getting yourself tested and disclosing your, "status", like an HIV patient basically plays you like a fool. You'll just end up scaring girls away from you who will then hook up with guys that have probably a near-equal chance of having herpes (which is going to be the men who have the most partners and who are the most sexually active - i.e. Chad Thundercock).

      So if you want to reduce your sex life to shit, while not reducing the risk for anyone around you, go ahead and tell every girl you'd otherwise fuck, have them run away to fuck Herpes Chad, and only fuck girls on herpes websites (think about the caliber of a girl that is defined by her herpes - that's her thing. A normal girl would hamster it away or far more likely, just not get tested).

      Otherwise, this is not a big deal. Don't fuck a girl while you're symptomatic (which I can't imagine would be pleasant anyway), and wait until your symptoms go latent, at which point your chance of infecting someone (with what is probably an asymptomatic virus) is virtually zero. They should mostly be cleared up within a year or two at the absolute worst.

      [–]Modredpillschool 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      To the top with you!

      [–]1oldredder 104 points105 points  (34 children)

      Thems the risks.

      TRP doesn't have good advice on CAUTION and avoidance of danger. only to seek pussy at any cost, while painting it as a side-effect of self-improvement.

      That's the price you pay.

      I'm extra cautious with who I hook up with and prefer to get lots of sex with the same clean woman instead of lots of strange women who most of which will have herpes or something else curable but still a pain in the ass.

      [–]FishFoxFerret 19 points20 points  (1 child)

      A big tenant of TRP is to think for yourself. So don't take everything here as gospel. Otherwise you're still stuck in the same mindset as before but just following something else.

      [–]Barles_Chukowski[S] 28 points29 points  (20 children)

      Yeah, but how do you know she's clean? Do you get a blood test done?

      [–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (12 children)

      Life is a constant act of faith. I'm not religious, but conceptually, only God has certain knowledge. Everything is a risk, just take as many precautions as necessary. In this case, judge visually how much of a ho she might be, then wrap it. Then get yourself checked as reguarly as you deem necessary. You might get run over by some fool tomorrow so it's ok to take some risks along the way.

      EDIT: Loving the username btw

      [–]my-alt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      You can't know. Herpes tests are remarkably unreliable, with up to a 70% false negative rate.

      I wouldn't stress about herpes though, it is utterly insignificant other than the social stigma.

      [–]1RXRob 12 points13 points  (4 children)

      TRP does not advocate hooking up with girls at any cost. It advocates self improvement, which will lead to enhanced SMV, which will lead to the opportunity to hook up with lots of girls amongst other things.

      This is not seddit

      [–]-Johnny- 23 points24 points  (4 children)

      I like how NONE of these TRP gods here can give you a straight answer...

      How about you not fuck whores and put in some real work with quality chicks. You KNOW if a girl has a bigger possibility to have a std, you just choose to not listen to your instincts.

      [–]cariboo_j 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Whores are a higher risk but you can still get STDs from so called quality women. Herpes can be asymptomatic after all

      [–]Jrose152 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      If herpes is so common then why are you acting like you are done for? Herpes isn't the end of your life, it's just the rest of your life. Don't have sex during and outbreak. Continue life as normal.

      [–]I_is_the_best 79 points80 points  (20 children)

      Ok so you're a dumb beta and you get married and your wifey is a hoe and fucks other guys. End result ? You still get herps even without spinning.

      [–]garbagejooce 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      For those trying to give condescending advice like "TRP isn't just about just fucking girls. You should've known better," go fuck yourself. This is a hard thing to post about, and him doing so will hopefully help other guys be more wary when fucking sluts. Appreciate his honest, it took balls. And get off your high horse.

      [–]DarkyDarkskin 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      19 women is not a lot? JESUS man! I've only been with 4 and I thought I was doing ok. It is obvious this sub has turned into a cesspit of degeneracy rather than a place for purely sexual strategy aimed at improving your life. Christ.

      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children)

      I feel like my username is finally relevant, but I have nothing relevant to say...

      [–]akjoltoy 21 points22 points  (3 children)

      Herpes is not a big deal. I got it as a kid from being kissed by my grandma.

      It's rampant enough and the symptoms harmless enough that the energy it takes to avoid it is not worth it.

      I get a cold sore on my lip like once a year or two. Half the time I notice it put some zovirax on it and it goes away. Otherwise it's like a bad pimple that lasts a few days. Omfg, kill me. What a big deal.

      The stigma around STD's is mostly bullshit. If you want to pretend you're in a higher class than humans with them.. then have fun fretting about it. In general, it's a tiny nuisance and more than worth being able to relax about having sex with people.

      HIV is another matter of course.. but is mostly irrelevant as it's generally communicated through homosexual sex.

      I had one other STD which was genital warts. I got some, had some frozen off, and then they stopped coming. Since (6 or 7 years), I haven't had anything. These things tend to go away most of the time.

      [–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

      Grandma had her time on the cc

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      STDs are scare tactic bullshit the same as marijuana used to make teenagers obedient. When growing older it amazes me that people realize one was a lie but still are up in arms about the other. STDs are generally NOT a big deal. That said I still recommend wrapping it up if possible. HIV is another animal. But if you aren't sexually active in the gay community or share needles doing drugs then it really shouldnt be a concern

      [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (9 children)

      I got herpes from girl #1. FML

      [–]One_friendship_plz 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      read your history and you're having sex with a bunch of women.

      Are you going around spreading it or did they already have it?
      Edit: not here to bash you, I'm trying to look out for myself.

      [–]RedditArgument 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Protip: For the love of God avoid Arginine when you have an outbreak. Instead target foods with high lysine content. Trust me you'll thank me.

      I was taking an arginine supplement and (I eventually found out) was eating a rather high arginine diet. I had an outbreak (hsv1) and it was the worst. Lasted for weeks before i figured out the damn arginine was the problem.

      Arginine is basically herpes candy, Lysine on the other hand supposedly helps kill them off. (Have not yet tested Lysine but will next time, my outbreaks are very few and far between.)

      [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      So what's the solution to this problem, fuck hookers because they get STI checked?

      [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Most STI tests don't cover herpes (and unless state-mandated, I doubt most hookers would opt for the more expensive tests, as it would directly reduce their market value). I would assume the customer base of the average prostitute isn't savvy enough to understand STI test != herpes test.

      The solution is don't give a fuck about herpes either way, because it isn't a big deal, and you've probably already got at least one form of it.

      [–]MyReddit4 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      You're over-reacting a bit.

      More than 70% of people in the US have it. Most get seasonal cold sores on the lips one or two times and then it's gone. As time goes on, outbreaks become less frequent. Granted, an outbreak on the dick/vag is way worse than a cold sore.

      When you're not having an outbreak, I wouldn't worry about it. I had a scare from a girl who I banged twice. She texted me that she had a coldsore on her mouth and she recently gave me head. I felt sick and worried - didn't get any form of outbreak and basically marinated my dick in coconut oil (vitamins & antifungal, bro science, I know...)

      Anyway, the world will keep turning. Girls will slut it up. If it smells/looks funny, don't be afraid to have her take a shower or get out.

      [–]Rimeheart 57 points58 points  (24 children)

      Honestly in asian culture herpes is not a big deal, and it should not be. I think it is mostly westerners being silly. Think about it, it is just a skin condition of sores, when your immune system is weak. It does not kill you, or harm you in an real way. It is not HIV.

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        [–]1kingofpoplives 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        Finally, some people talking sense.

        [–]matayo41 11 points12 points  (5 children)

        Honestly in asian culture herpes is not a big deal

        do you have a single fact to back that up?

        [–]FemtoG 4 points5 points  (3 children)

        I'm Asian. It is pretty true, but it's because 99.99% of the cases is just mouth sores.

        [–]matayo41 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        thanks, internet asian man. your facts have really convinced me

        [–]FangoFett 22 points23 points  (6 children)

        No worries bro, herpes is a variant form of Chicken Pox. The worst that could happen is break outs, and there are meds for that. HSV-2 is a bit more aggressive, but I think it's just the stigma that you got an STD. The truth is half the population has a form of it. You are almost required to get chicken pox when you are younger. Think of it as rite of passage, cause seriously, you can get HSV-1 from your great great aunt when she kissed you as a little baby. How silly is that?

        [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (1 child)

        you can get HSV-1 from your great great aunt when she kissed you as a little baby

        That whore bitch. I bet tons of people with herpies give it to kids. What scumbags.

        [–]FangoFett 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        She probably got it from her great great aunt... or the CC, who knows.... AWALT.

        [–]juliusstreicher 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I don't have herpes...you make it sound like I've been shortchanged.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

        Can someone explain to me why in the year 2015 herpes and shit like that cannot be cured?

        [–]pows 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        The simple way of putting it is that the protein shell of the virus is always changing. Because the receptors on the virus are always on the move, it makes it very difficult to make a vaccination that properly matches it.

        I think. Don't quote me on that

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          [–]guymanthing 11 points12 points  (1 child)

          We need a little course on caution and safety. I'm 17 and I don't want to risk having my future SMV smashed because of something like this. Sorry for your loss OP, but I respect you immensely for not just continuing to spin plates with the knowledge you are infected. Best if luck man.

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          [–]Speed__Racist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          At this point, I'd rather be stigmatized as a virgin than get an STD.

          [–]Nagintaplease40 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Yep -- can confirm. Last chick I got with most likely gave me something. I pray it isn't the herp. (Note: I haven't slept with anyone since or will sleep with anyone until I'm tested -- I'm not a complete piece of shit)

          [–]2Overkillengine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          A lot of effort here is put into identifying "low effort required" women.

          The same effort is not put into identifying the risks.

          Caveat Emptor.

          [–]GoldPisseR 67 points68 points  (52 children)

          Spinning plates is dumb as shit imo. Why risk your well being just for fucking sluts? Rest assured if a woman is okay with short term hookups, you are one of the many she's done it or doing it with.

          Get a hot clean woman and manage a ltr with her.

          [–]Cthulu2013 41 points42 points  (8 children)

          2 years ago this would have been downvoted to hell.

          I see a lot of people here now are just using rp tactics to get what they want instead of internalizing. I could be wrong.

          [–]Squeezymypenisy 15 points16 points  (3 children)

          Wasn't that the point? The red pill is labeled as sexual strategy. Strategy.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          There was a great writeup around here that basically boiled down to "You are not TRP. TRP is not an identity. TRP is a tool"

          [–]PedroIsWatching 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Yet the highest rated post in this thread is basically saying, "Wait, you used TRP as a sexual strategy? You fucking idiot."

          [–]NeverPull0ut 5 points6 points  (3 children)

          Yeah, the sub has matured significantly even just in the past few months. Look, red pill theory has a really solid basis and tons of great discussion points. At the same time, people are different and are going to put their own spin on things in a way that makes them happy. The theory and sidebar material is not the end all be all perfect guidebook for how to live your life. The foundation of RP is to improve yourself and live life in the most meaningful and pleasurable way possible, and at the end of the day, that's what's truly most important.

          [–]Cthulu2013 24 points25 points  (2 children)

          Redpill is getting watered down with newfags.

          It's getting seriously pussified in here.

          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          Literally I think we're a stones throw away from 'treat women nicely, open doors for them and say M'LADY, she'll be so impressed by how spiritual you are.'

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            [–]GoldPisseR 35 points36 points  (5 children)

            NO. Dread gaming is the only essential. You don't actually have to fuck diseased sluts in order to gain confidence . If your LTR is aware that you have other sexier options she'd respect you.Thats it.

            And do you actually think a smart woman would date your std ridden ass?Get real buddy.

            Most quality women don't want promiscuous guys, they want guys who can be promiscuous but choose not to.So flirt with everyone but don't stick your dick in filthy vaginas.Not worth it at all.

            [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 4 points5 points  (2 children)

            You don't have to fuck a lot of women to get the confidence encouraged at TRP, but by god, is it a hell of a lot easier to get said confidence when you understand that women are essentially fungible, and the best, most visceral way to get that knowledge is to fuck a lot of them.

            [–]2comment 28 points29 points  (6 children)

            Spinning plates is dumb as shit imo.

            Fucking trashy sluts is dumb as hell. Spinning plates is not. Life is risk. You know how to stay 100% clear of STDs? Don't live on earth. Second plan, abstinence, but even that isn't without risks.

            Because someone may bleed on you, cough blood/nasty in your food, whatever, and you may just get it. Your LTR may bring it to you from previous partners, may be cheating on you, etcetera.

            Past that, any other choice is managed risk. Spinning plates is necessary. Many men, myself included, don't learn too well from books. Oh, the written word will get us to a point, but to really internalize the lessons, we have to live life.

            Learning abundance mentality is hard when you're starving yourself.

            Why risk your well being just for fucking sluts? Rest assured if a woman is okay with short term hookups, you are one of the many she's done it or doing it with.

            I agree. Spinning LTRs would be ideal.

            But guess what? One man's slut may be another man's chaste princess. She puts out for Chad 30 minutes after they meet (he randomly slaps her ass at a party and says hi) and for Beta Bob, she makes him wait 3 months until she feels "ready". AWALT.

            Welcome to the roulette wheel of life. The only guarantee is that you will lose one day. Try to have a fun ride along the way.

            [–]Polaris382 33 points34 points  (13 children)

            Kind of have to agree with this guy...in some ways I feel the huge emphasis on "spinning plates" is a bit childish and kind of goes against the underlying theme of "redpill" in a way. I can only speak for myself though...I think pussy is overrated, and especially when its coming from women you give 0 fucks about (even if they are super hot). Not to mention all the time and effort that could be used on better things.

            I prefer one quality woman (they do exist, but obviously you still need to maintain a good dose of vigilance), but again thats just me. To each their own.

            [–]wimmyjales 26 points27 points  (38 children)

            They always told us in the military that herpes isnt easily transmitted unless there is an breakout and thus you must inspect vag in the light first. You didn't inspect, did you? Also, for most people breakouts aren't as frequent as you would think and there are good meds to nip them in the bud. So don't stress man.

            [–]Barles_Chukowski[S] 104 points105 points  (13 children)

            Yeah, that's what they used to think. Turns out asymptomatic shedding in people who don't even know they have the virus is a super common method of transmission. I always checked before I wrecked. Always washed after I squashed. Never loved without the glove. Still got herpdick.

            [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 84 points85 points  (2 children)

            And The Red Pill Poetry nomination goes too..

            [–]JAnwyl 20 points21 points  (16 children)

            How do I bring this up "I was hoping I could inspect the vaj-j for herpes?" also "do you mind a flashlight or room light so I can get a better view"

            [–]AnalogSignal 29 points30 points  (1 child)

            Tell her you think a vagina is a work of art, a thing of beauty and you want to get a closer look so you can bask in the beauty of her possibly diseased infested pussy.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            /u/JAnwyl should do a taste test first.....

            [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (10 children)

            I don't do randoms anymore for this very reason. I always know the girl before hand, and go get tested with her. I just call them fucking licenses. If she resists or "forgets" I explain that is the test or the door. If she evades twice, then we're finished.

            A couple weeks of no sex is manageable as long as I'm staying busy. A clean dick and peace of mind are worth it to me.

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              [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              Early. It's one of my expectations, and honestly there's no good reason not to get tested. If we don't get tested, it's a risk both ways. Sure I've been tested before, and so was the last girl I saw; but people cheat, people lie, and shit happens. Like I said, is the test or the door and a few have chosen the door.

              The key is holding frame, and disarming their anti slut defenses. If you lead off with "We should get tested" they're going to hear "I think your a slut". Start with your reasons, and end with the point. Safety, responsibility, trust, and willingness following my lead. This one, advisable test can show me all these things.

              Edit: spelling, punctuation

              [–]italian_mobking 14 points15 points  (5 children)

              The military will tell you anything to keep your mind at ease and combat ready. Too stressed out from battle but also too worried about std's from foreign strange to lower your stress? "Don't worry boys, you can't get the herp that easily. Here take this shot of something we won't tell you what is in it because it's classified and you're our corporate guinea pig, slaves."

              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              At least you don't get colds anymore

              [–]datdude2014 11 points12 points  (18 children)

              Doesn't matter had sex, consider them fuck trophies. Jk

              That's fucked up man, but it even happens to married couples when either cheats for example. It's just the world we live in

              [–]Barles_Chukowski[S] 16 points17 points  (17 children)

              Crazy world. Check the demographics. Apparently 48% of black women in America have herpes.

              http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/2010/hsv2pressrelease.html

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                [–]Crushinated 13 points14 points  (5 children)

                Because it's not a big deal basically

                [–]juliusstreicher 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                I can't see how "a lifelong and incurable infection that can cause recurrent and painful genital sores" is NOT a big deal.

                [–]disposable_pants 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                A couple months ago I had a girl tell me while we were fooling around that she had herpes. I ended up deciding not to have sex with her, but I did a decent amount of research before I came to that conclusion. In short, what I read didn't seem that bad:

                • I want to say the female-male transmission rate with proper condom usage is about 2%. Pretty sure it's even less if they're taking medication for it. The male-female rate is a little higher, but overall it's a number where there's an extremely good chance the virus won't be transmitted in a short-term fling so long as everybody's cautious.
                • As others have pointed out in this thread, a surprisingly large portion of the population (almost certainly the majority) eventually gets it, and there are tons of undiagnosed cases (probably how OP got it in the first place). If millions of people are living with it but are asymptomatic enough to not notice the typical case probably isn't horrible.
                • Breakouts only happen a few times a year to start, and get less frequent as you age. It's not a constant hassle and it does get better over time.
                • There's a school of thought (and this might just be people with herpes trying to rationalize it) that the virus is only considered a boogeyman because drug companies wanted to push a cure. This is at least plausible because A) the aforementioned points about it usually not being a horrible experience and B) the face that HSV-2 screening is typically not included on your standard STD test.

                Of course, do you own research before putting yourself at risk. I'm just some guy on the internet.

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                  [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (8 children)

                  Just curious, did you fuck a black girl?

                  [–]Barles_Chukowski[S] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

                  3 of 'em. One 9, one 6, one 4.

                  [–]couid 96 points97 points  (4 children)

                  That's way too young man, fuck that.

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                    [–]JanLul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    I'm genuinely crying from laughing here.

                    [–]geppetto123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Consider L-Lysine pills, they are the antagonist (increasing one lowers the other) of L-Arginin which the virus uses as essential building block to replicate.* L-Lysine is a ammino acid, so there is practically no overdose which means you can lower L-Arginin to the very minimum.

                    This is also a way to lower the risk of prevention (like condoms) if you spin plates, but for this to be effective you need much higher dose (3-5x) than the nutrient recommandation on the bottle for "normal use" to make sure you start "L-Arginin" level when the virus hits your body is really low - In this context I am also highlyyy recommanding HPV immunization also for men!!!

                    *Same approach with using HIV medications (protease inhibitor) as prophylaxis, but this quite over the top if you are not surrounded by it.

                    [–]davsyo 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                    Condoms don't protect me? I'm very concerned about this.

                    [–]adam_varg 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                    Condoms realiably protect your from syph and hiv. For gonnorhea, herp, chlamydia, etc it just cuts risk.

                    [–]Professor_Pussypenis 6 points7 points  (6 children)

                    19 is a low partner count? What the fuck?

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                    I wouldn't say low but definitely average.

                    EDIT: On second thoughts though, maybe not! Wouldn't surprise me if the average was a lot lower. But among the non-beta community 19 is definitely not an impressive count.

                    [–]Professor_Pussypenis 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                    That's ridiculous. I've only had sex with one girl and that was over two years ago.

                    [–]gangstaman9000the2nd 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                    10/10 would be trolled again

                    [–]monkeythrowingpoop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    I have a good friend who is a high demand dermatologist with a very unique specialty. People come from all over the world to see him. He specializes in treating people with STD's. He does a lot of reconstructive plastic surgery on genitalia. The reason is that STD's can often be very disfiguring.

                    He has shown me photo's of people with genital warts that look like cauliflower the size of a small fist in their vagina, or penises that look....well.....like some monster out of a horror show. Just take a few minutes and google around for pictures of genital warts and herpes.

                    He told me that at least 60% of the adult population has either some form of herpes and or genital warts.

                    Another thing he mentioned is the futility of using condoms to prevent herpes or genital warts.

                    He sees a LOT of people that don't have genital warts on their penises, but have it on their pubic area or other areas. What these people didn't realize was that the areas of their bodies that was rubbing skin together (think lower abdomen, thighs, etc.) were unprotected. They end up getting herpes or genital warts in these areas.

                    In the end, he said that if you have sex with more than 2 people (especially if those two people are or have been sexually active), you have almost certainly been exposed to an STD.

                    Be careful out there.

                    [–]temerarious 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    Anyone here on their moral high ground, if you really don't want to be a hypocrite, go get tested for HSV-1 (spoiler alert: you probably have it). If you test positive, don't kiss anyone or share a drink without first warning them of the risks. If you're not willing to do that, shut the fuck up about HSV-2. HSV-1 is technically more dangerous (something about possible eye infections), but neither is a big deal medically. The social stigma is the worst part, so just avoid that by keeping it to yourself. Everyone else does anyway.

                    [–]Riddick_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Dude. Don't just jump to conclusions. Talk to your doc and see what he is saying and if you actually have anything. If in doubt do another test, with another doc / lab. Tell them specifically you want to be screened for HSV-1 and HSV-2. Most docs don't even care for it... Talk to your doc about getting a full STD test, you may have to pay a bit extra but it's worth it. Do it.

                    [–]trowawayyada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Herps isn't a rash, they are blisters. How many blisters do you have, take a deep breath relax get tested! It could be eczema for all you know.

                    [–]Ketaminewarrior 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Wait till you get the results dude, I had a doctor tell me I had it and put me on antivirals. Second opinion from a specialist at a sexual health clinic said otherwise.

                    [–]celiberation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Thank you for this warning post. Read more about herpes http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2011/04/latest-genital-herpes

                    Better safe(r) than sorry. Prevention is better than cure.

                    [–]External12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I know of a couple people infected, one is a rather close friend who confided in me. He gave an interesting outlook, because I thought people had this rash or whatever always or frequently. First, he stopped telling people he explained and never had a reoccurring outbreak and has not had an issue, I guess I am unsure of this part but I'm not in there shoes. He also said how people will make out with total strangers, but not second guess getting herpes, so why with sex? And also said it hasn't effected his life at all except the whatever months he felt like a outcast initially. So, I guess I just want to tell you it's okay, everyday life should be the same, and don't necessarily lower your own value. Obviously someone didn't know or didn't tell you, and that's not your fault. I just feel bad because my buddy told me how he was really depressed and I always like to mention those few things. Thanks for the personal story. 1 girl or multiple, it could be the first, the last, or none who give you something.

                    [–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (0 children)


                    Well duh !!!

                    Yeah, of course if you have many partners you increase your chances of STD's.

                    Look at homosexual men. They have the highest rate of random sex and also the highest rates of STD's.

                    Remember the lessons of history:

                    Researchers concluded that syphilis was carried from the New World to Europe after Columbus' voyages. Many of the crew members who served on this voyage later joined the army of King Charles VIII in his invasion of Italy in 1495, resulting in the spreading of the disease across Europe and as many as five million deaths.[7] The findings suggested Europeans could have carried the nonvenereal tropical bacteria home, where the organisms may have mutated into a more deadly form in the different conditions and low immunity of the population of Europe.[18] Syphilis was a major killer in Europe during the Renaissance.[19] In his Serpentine Malady (Seville, 1539) Ruy Diaz de Isla estimated that over a million people were infected in Europe.[20]


                    So this may have amplified the trend of monogamy because people wanted to avoid the disease.

                    The wisest choice will always be monogamy with a woman of good breeding material then have ten kids and allow the randomness in gene transmission to create variety. No two kids are alike unless they are actual twins. (hard to do now with the State as our enemy)

                    HIV in Africa runs at 50% of the population in some areas. (South Africa)

                    [–]psylord 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    What I'm worried about is another disease like AIDS popping up. That's how AIDS originally came into being - unexpectedly. People were having sex and spreading it, not knowing that it existed. All it takes is another major unknown bug to arise. The next one could spread via heterosexual sex.

                    [–]1RPB1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    The sort of women willing to be spun are seldom new to that sort of thing, thus increasing one's exposure to venereal infections.

                    A lot of guys who swallowed the pill weren't getting any (or at least not as often or with whom they wanted), and they went from one extreme to the other. It's the equivalent of a sexual chip on their shoulder where all pussy that can be fucked, must be fucked. Rampant promiscuity always carries great risk in many forms, and a lot of these boys are out to prove something to themselves by seducing as many women as possible.

                    You aren't going to fuck your way into manhood.

                    As a philosophy, TRP emphasizes sexual variety to break the chemical attachments to one woman. The point of that though is to build confidence and acclimate them to sex without submitting to infatuation. We call these practice girls. But I think the most salient aspect of RP dating strategy is to be more selective and leveraging your SMV to access the Five Star Course, not the Mickey D's dollar menu.

                    The further up the tree you go, the more branches you can access below. But if you can take an elevator to the top, why waste time climbing the branches and risk falling on the way up?

                    To the dudes that don't care: more power to you. Although you can never be 100% safe, I'm personally much more picky these days.

                    [–]life036 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                    Now I have to break up with all my plates and start from scratch on herpes dating websites.

                    The white knightery is strong with this one.

                    [–]mismm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    If I were you, I wouldn't restrict myself to only dating girls with herpes. Those girls didn't tell you shit and I'm sure most people who have it just don't give a fuck. It's way too common.

                    [–]STYLES_MANDISH 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                    I have hsv-1. Got it from my current girlfriend. So it goes. Had my first outbreak during finals week this past semester. Went to the doctor, got a culture, and came back positive. They say blood tests aren't very accurate for either type of herpes and that the only surefire way to know is to swab a sore and test it. Both types are basically the same, but type 2 is just more aggressive. It's really not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Haven't had an outbreak since. They're rare. Relax and keep banging slags.

                    Edit: and yes, you can get both types on your genitals or on your face. Luckily, I have type 1 on my pork sword and its rare to get both types.

                    Edit 2: oh hail the high and mighty

                    [–]Smokratez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    That's why I either fuck virgins or get a health check before sticking it in.

                    [–]temerarious 0 points1 point  (29 children)

                    Don't tell anyone you have it and carry on with your life. Seriously.

                    Most people have HSV-1. Does anyone bother telling you that they have it (anyone who's gotten a cold sore knows they have it) before you kissed them or shared a drink? No, nor were they expected to even though it is also an incurable virus. Why is HSV-2 different? Simply because it is typically spread through sexual activity and shows up (usually) on your junk instead of your face. Personally, I'd rather have 2 because I can hide it during an outbreak.

                    HSV-1 would ruin your SMV just as much if before everytime you kissed someone you warned them you have it. That's why no one does. They don't give a shit if they pass it on. HSV-2 should be no different.

                    [–]temerarious 14 points15 points  (17 children)

                    Also, most STD tests don't even test for herpes. Doctors don't really care because it's not a serious medical issue.

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                        [–]Lopsided_ 18 points19 points  (3 children)

                        Let's all play a game. It's called 'Spot the people with Herpes in this thread'.

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                          [–]my-alt 6 points7 points  (4 children)

                          Counterpoint is don't fuck girls that aren't clean.

                          How do you know that exactly? You realize you are excluding maybe 70-80% of the whole US population?

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                            [–]FangoFett 6 points7 points  (6 children)

                            You can get HSV-1 on your reproduction system. It's not just contained to the lips. However, it's like 90% of people over 50 have it. When your great aunt came over to see the new born, and gives them a peck on the lips... yup, herpes. Either way, it's just a different form of chicken pox, that only breaks out when your immune system is low.

                            [–]temerarious 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                            And you can get HSV-2 on the lips. All that shit is the same. The worst part is the social stigma. I see no reason to subject yourself to that.

                            [–]FangoFett 9 points10 points  (4 children)

                            STD is pretty fucked and not telling someone you have a "serious" STD is just sadistic. However, herpes shouldn't be placed in the same category if the a good chunk of the population has it, and it's not something that would detriment your health, other than the occasional uncomfortableness... seriously, I see it more like the flu.

                            [–]bokonai 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                            https://rowanfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/th-genital-herpes.jpg

                            (SFW), yup, no big deal at ALLLLLLL rolls eyes I'll leave it up to the readers imagination what that herpes infested dick would be like, and how agonizing that would be. I seriously think the posters downplaying this are all feminist trolls

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                              [–]temerarious 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                              You very likely have it. Most people don't show.

                              [–]ryno55 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                              You've probably just got a healthy immune system true_detective_sf. I think there must be some inoculation that happens too, after you get it once, it doesn't really affect you any more (due to the healthy immune system).

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (14 children)

                              This is going to sound weird because of the stigma that surrounds herpes but it's not a big deal. If 1/6 people have it then does it really matter if you do? It causes no downgrade in quality of life at all and the flare ups happen rarely and are often not even noticeable.

                              I wouldn't give an honest fuck if I got herpes. The only STD i'd be pissed about getting is HIV because it's life changing and fatal.

                              [–]1sardinemanR 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                              There are a lot more STDs than just Herpes and HIV. You don't want Gonorrhea, Syphilis, Chlamydia...man most of them are pretty bad.

                              You're supposed to be protected from most if you wrap up, so there's that.

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                              [–]masturbates2Dragons 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                              Stop meeting girls on Tinder. Problem solved.

                              [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                              Yes, because no one got herpes before tinder.

                              [–]argentinean 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                              You still don't know if u got the herpes. Not very likely to get it from protected sex with a woman. Most likely balanitis caused by chlamydia. But there is always the risk of herpes -- yeah it sucks.

                              Please update once you get your results.

                              [–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Come back once it's confirmed you actually have it bro

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                              Condom doesn't protect you?? D=

                              Oh my god. I just got great news on being clean despite sharing rigs with Hep C positive people. I don't wanna chance it...

                              They just found a cure for Hep C in the last two years. So hold on, it may be curable soon, especially with the rates so high and it affecting so many women, you'll know they'll get on that shit.

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