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Red Pill Theory"The RP Guide to Defeating the Enemy: Mindset" (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior ContributorOmLaLa

TL;DR- This will be a two-part guide: the first part will help you better understand the actions, mindset, habits, fears, strengths and weaknesses of women. The second part will explain how to use this new-found knowledge to your benefit.


--PART 1: KNOWING THE ENEMY--

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” –Sun Tzu, The Art of War

The fight for sex/validation is a game in which women are our opponent. Just like with any opponent, by completely learning and understanding their strengths, weaknesses and habits, one learns what characteristics can be exploited, how to exploit those characteristics, to what degree and to what outcome.

This guide aims to identify these characteristics in all women beyond those explained in basic TRP theology. The first topic we’ll cover is the mindset and thought processes of women.


Section A: Mind

There is little logic required to influence the thoughts of women. Women base their thought processes solely on 2 factors: how they feel about something (emotions) and how they feel about something right there and then (perception).


1. Mental Activity

The emotional and short-term perceptional basis of a woman’s thought process often contradict one another in seemingly irrational ways:

Brenda loves the taste and smell of vanilla ice cream (logic), but because Jenny from accounting called her a fat cow last Wednesday while she at vanilla ice cream during her lunch break, she may associate her negative FEELINGS towards Jenny to her overall PERCEPTION of vanilla ice cream. This’ll lead to her blaming the consumption of vanilla ice cream to Jenny’s comment, not her lack of calorie moderation.

Now until something positively influences her perception of vanilla ice cream, she will continue to feel negatively towards ice cream as the cause of her weight gain and the cause of bitch Jenny’s remark.

This is the framework behind “hamstering”.


2. Feelings

Women don’t get caught up in the why behind something that makes them happy, more-so the access to the feeling itself i.e. the what, when,how much and how often.

Women are lost in the constant pursuit of “feel-good” emotions due to their short-term, ever-changing thought processes: happiness, security, curiosity, lust, intrigue, complacency, etc.

This "pursuit of happiness" also succumbs to the ever-changing nature of a woman's perspective and beliefs.

Brenda's vanilla ice cream may have made her happy earlier today, but because of Jenny’s rude comment on her ever-growing second chin, she’ll hate vanilla ice cream tomorrow.

This causes her to constantly feel the need to seek out multiple “feel-good” stimuli and keep close secondary fail-safe “feel-good” stimuli as a countermeasure.

Women don’t plan out long-term supplies of these feel-good emotions like men would due to their “in-the-moment”, constantly-shifting perspectives, and as such, are always looking for the next best thing in case one of her current “feel-good” stimuli fails.

This is the framework behind “hypergamy”.


3. Perception

As I’ve explained above, women don’t plan for long-term “feel-good” stimuli due to the risks of being left with no stimuli in the short-term and the chance that the long-term stimuli will disappear before reaching its full potential.

Because of this, women do not care about a “potential” or "likely" benefit to them nor do they care about stimuli operating outside of their personal perspective (i.e. grasp).

They only care about things and people that will provide them “feel-good stimuli in the short-term which operate within a close proximity to them (i.e. ease of access).

This is also the framework behind hypergamy.

This is why women don’t care about your job as a Senior Technical Engineer in and of itself because the literal actions you take while working that job do not provide them with any sort of feel-good stimulus. It’s the RESULTS from working your job –the security of a house, the happiness brought on by items bought using your paycheck- that truly provides these feelings for them.

This is also why women cannot “love” unconditionally; while a man can love a woman for what she does, a woman loves a man for what he provides in the short-term. The phrase “I love you” coming from a woman honestly translates into “I love how you make me feel at this particular point in time through the "feel-good stimuli you are providing me”.

That’s not to say she isn’t impressed with your ability to work that job, but because she has little to no understanding of the complexity of that job and learning about said complexity does not provide her with the “feel-good” sensation she requires, she deems it as unimportant. It exists outside of her perspective.


4. Relationships with Men

The desire for relationships from the mindset of women stem from her recognition of a man as an established provision of multiple long-term “feel-good” stimuli (not on the potential for said provision as women don’t care about potentiality).

NOTE: This mindset explains why lesbian relationships can effectively exist; the woman is being provided multiple "feel-good" stimuli from one person over a long-period of time and her sexually-based stimuli are effectively being taken care of to the degree required by her individual necessity.

In short, women are drawn to men (or other women) that make them feel good in the moment AND men they've determined can make them feel good for a long time. This goes for plate-spinners, natural alphas, RP alphas and betas alike, with the only difference being the stimuli each provides.

An alpha’s determined provision is sex, passion, intrigue and lust (visceral, reptilian). The beta’s determined provision is security, comfort, and validation (support).

From this perceptive, a woman's “unicorn” is a man who can provide all stimuli they require at once (provide sex and intrigue and provide security and validation) all while providing said stimuli at the same level consistently for a long period of time.

It’s their belief in this “Prince Charming” and their limited foresight when obtaining “feel-good” stimuli that leads many women to marry once-Alpha men with the belief that she’s “feel” this way for him forever or why women pursue “bad boys” with the intention of “fixing them up”.

Women are constantly trying to build their unicorns; they like how they feel in the moment with these men and they want that FEELING to last forever.

Ever hear a woman utter the phrase "I want this moment to last forever" in a RomCom? This is the moment they’re referring to.

The problem with the woman's understanding of her Prince Charming lies the limitation of having just one provision.

Having only one “feel-good” stimuli, no matter how powerful a stimuli it is, runs counter to the very nature of a woman's nature (requiring “feel-good” at any moment and requiring multiple “feel-goods” as insurance).


5. Insurance

Let’s assume Prince Charming exists. He’s everything a woman could ever ask for: handsome, smart, funny, validating, comforting, reassuring, the whole nine yards.

She will cheat or be tempted to cheat.

Why?

Reason 1: "He’s too good for her." Her need for a “feel-good” back-up plan still exists. Because Prince Charming and products deriving from Prince Charming (i.e. things connected to his paycheck or his social influence) are her only source of “feel-good” stimuli, she’ll undoubtedly acquire a fallback or “fail-safe” guy (preferably in a similar albeit lower position than Prince Charming, otherwise she'd leave Prince Charming) to rely on should Prince Charming find himself a better suited woman.

Why does she do this?

Because she can.

With a vast supply of men to choose from, it’s easy for her to pick out not only the best male she possibly can but also his runner-ups as well.

NOTE: These runner-ups are not necessarily beta. A second-tier alpha is simply a man she’s determined to have her required characteristics for an good alpha, but an alpha she’s determined to be lower-tier compared to the alpha she’s currently with.

Reason 2: "There’s only one of him." As great as Prince Charming is, he’s still only one guy with his own life, goals and destinations. He can only be around her but for so long and his influences only reach but so far. On top of this, her needs and desires for a "feel-good" stimuli are in the moment and must be considered at all times.

Let’s say she visits a foreign land for 2 weeks and becomes horny. Let’s also say she encounters a handsome Foreign Prince who meets all of her qualifications for being an alpha. Because her focus is limited to the moment and the "good feeling" that moment is providing her, she’s likely to succumb to said feelings.

This is commonly why women explain their infidelity with “I needed you but you weren’t there!” She’s right to a degree; she cheated because her mind required that specific “feel-good” stimuli (sex, intrigue, lust) and due to the limitation of the man’s presence, influence or due to a lack in the over-all CURRENT quality of the stimuli, she went to seek it out elsewhere.

Because of how their minds are constructed, women don’t see sex with another man as infidelity. If they did, they’d also see going to X restaurant instead of Y restaurant due to Y restaurant distance or rundown state as an act of infidelity as well.

Women only see long-term utilization of another man's "feel-good" stimuli as cheating. That is why women weigh emotional infidelity higher than sexual infidelity in general.

Think of it like a cellphone tower. The signal that tower gives off are only beneficial to you so long as your cellphone gets reception. Anywhere outside of that range, you’ll require another means of communication to connect with your friends. In this instance, you may “cheat” on your cellphone tower by using someone else’s phone out of the necessity of your current situation. Yet when you've returned home and you’re back within range of your tower, you continue with your phone as if it never happened. This is the mindset of a woman regarding infidelity.

Note: This also explains the "guilt" a woman feels after infidelity; she doesn't feel bad about what she's done, she's mourning the sudden lost of multiple "feel-good" stimuli she'd once been given by her bf/husband. She also feels anger towards the bf/husband as he is the one who has separated her from said stimuli (remember, she sees no fault in infidelity, only the repercussions of being caught).

This in turn alters her perception of him from wonderful alpha/beta to "the horrible person who made her feel bad and separated her from happiness", regardless of whatever they've had in the past.

Reason 3: "He was mean to her last Tuesday." As described by the vanilla ice cream example, a woman’s perspective is constantly changing and updating. Although Prince Charming himself hasn’t changed, her feelings and beliefs about him have.

Because a woman is always “in the moment”, her perception of Prince Charming will solely be based upon her feelings towards him the last time she saw him and NOT a collective summary of all their times together, as this would be a very logically-based conclusion.

As such, let’s suppose Prince Charming and this woman get into a heated argument that made her feel terrible. Then, her Prince Charming leaves for a 2-week vacation to cool off without rectifying her negative emotions. Now she is left alone and in desperate need of some –if not all- her “feel-good” stimuli requirements met, yet all of her resources have walked out the door with Prince Charming.

As specified, all women have a back-up plan, and hers is Prince Savy. Remember that a woman’s beliefs stem from her perceptive and not logical facts, so regardless of all that Prince Charming has provided her in the past, at this very moment she feels hatred and disgust at the thought of him, believing him to be a terrible man for making her feel this way.

She was left with needs to be met and Prince Savy happily obliges.


6. Real World Example

Here is a good example of a woman's perception of someone being altered (received this morning/afternoon).

Let's review what her actions, her text messages and her time of texting have to say about her current perceptions and determine how they can be manipulated for benefit.

a. Context

Last night I met up with this woman I'd met on OKC whom we'll refer to as Q.

Pre-sex, I asked Q if she had to rate her sex drive between 1 and 10, what would it be? She happily replied "10". Post-sex, Q admitted that my sex drive was more likely a 10 and hers was more of an 8. She confessed that 10-level sex drives were rare and that she was having trouble keeping up.

I replied with, "I know a lot of people with 10-level sex drives."

b. What she thought

It's obvious from Q's text message that she believed me to imply, "I know a lot of attractive women with 10-level sex drives and you're not one of them" and her perception of me has changed from ordinary alpha to "player" (this was also hinted at from her reaction when I told her she wasn't the first woman I'd met up with off dating sites).

Truth is, I was actually referring to some friends of mine when I made the comment, focusing on the "rarity of 10-level sex drives" she'd mentioned.

But I won't be correcting her just yet.

c. What she's thinking now

By not responding, she feels as though she's correct in her assessment and as such feels replaced. She has been told that her once-secured resource of sexual "feel-good" stimuli could be lost to another, better woman. Although her anger is caused by her lower sex drive when compared to her perceived competition, she has perceived me to be the root cause of her "bad feelings" and ultimate the bad guy of this scenario.

d. What she will think

She may seek out other men for short-term fixes to fill in the void I've left as her "feel-good" stimuli resource. I could care less about that.

Because she perceives me as a high-SMV male and possibly the only high-SMV male within her current perception (range/access), she will soon realize the men she's supplementing my absence with cannot provide her the same level of stimuli (or she's just find a better/equal alpha). She'll then reach out and try to rectify the situation; not because she's admitting fault, but because she requires the level of stimuli I provide.

This is how Alpha Widows are born.

I'll then reveal the miscommunication, she'll laugh it off and we'll resume having sex like nothing happened. She'll put forth additional effort on her part during sex to help alleviate her fears of losing me as a stimuli resource. I'll reap the reward of said efforts.

e. UPDATE (24 HOURS LATER)

As predicted, Q reached out after a radio silence of 12 hours. She has now shifted her prespective of me from the a manipulative "player" only out to hurt her back to one of me as a strong "feel-good" stimuli.

Note that she now specifies that she "enjoyed my company" and that the "irrelevant BS" is a separate entity from me. Because she doesn't want to lose me as a stimuli resource, she's concluded that the offensive statement I made was the cause of her "bad feelings" and not me. This is a big step.

NOTE: If I had tried to explain prior to this point what I really intended, Q would have read such an act as one set on by guilt, similar to how a child rationalizes his bad decisions immediately after being caught.

I don't respond to this message for another 12 hours, telling her the real reason for my remark. Here'swhat follows.

Have you noticed how she continues as if the incident never happened? She's back within range of her cellphone tower because she enjoys the strong signal it gives.

And to the benefit of the cellphone tower, it can give its signal to multiple phones at once. Think of the relationship between men and women as symbiotic in that regard.


LL- To combat and succeed against women, first you must understand that the thoughts, mindsets, beliefs and rationalization behind their actions are based upon values very different from ours, an oversight many of us tend to make. A woman’s understanding of the world is thoroughly subjective as it is purely based around her own focal point: her interactions within the world, experiences in the moment and her interpretation/internalization of the information the world puts in front of her.

For any further questions, I'm open to talking over Skype under Skype username OmLaLa. Please message me set up a meeting.


[–][deleted] 82 points83 points  (0 children)

My brain is clicking. This is deep bro.

[–]xinhoj 28 points28 points [recovered]

This is brilliant, OmLaLa. I now understand, with greater clarity, exactly why every relationship I've ever been in has fallen apart.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I'm glad I could provide some insight.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 89 points90 points  (7 children)

Men can 'love' women for who they are because the attributes they sought after, such as beauty, are inextricable from the woman herself. The attributes women sought after, such as social status and money, don't require a particular man. He is just a vehicle that delivers those feel good emotions. Women love what you can currently provide that gives them the feelz. Briffault's Law all the way.

P.S. I like your celltower analogy. It shows how 'cheating' doesn't even register in their mind. It's only logical to use another phone with reception right? Duh! Why wouldn't she? Brilliant.

[–]Drogoe 31 points31 points [recovered]

You are not seeing clearly. Groupthink has got you on this point (as the upvotes show). I have tried to explain this before but it doesn't sink in, only a few people can cognitively bend to see it:

the attributes they sought after, such as beauty, are inextricable from the woman herself.

Obesity and age and disfigurement makes those attributes very extricable indeed.

The attributes women sought after, such as social status and money, don't require a particular man.

This is just stupid and bitter. Rephrased: "The attributes men sought after, such as nice tits and ass, don't require a particular woman. She is just a vehicle that delivers those feel good boners and emotions. Men love what you can currently provide that gives them the boner feelz."

Are you following? The self-delusion around these parts can be very strong. Male hamstering 101.

[–]darklogic420 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The genetic nature of one set of traits makes it more intrinsic to an individual's person than the social and economic capital one acquires later in life. While I agree that only the internal state of consciousness is truly intrinsic, there are varying degrees of removal you must take into account.

[–]citizensounds 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What are you trying to say?

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[–]Drogoe 1 points1 points [recovered]

You did not contradict anything I wrote. Please do not stretch my patience. A man's value is not as genetically-based as a woman's. My point is that both are contingent.

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[–]LeGrandDiableBlanc 33 points34 points  (15 children)

I think you have ultimately put into words why I ultimately opt for a more MGTOW strategy.

The level of effort needed to satisfy all of a woman's stimuli-needs is Sisyphean. No matter how hard you work, it's never enough, because you can't be with her every second of every day, and even if you could, you would inevitably leave some of her stimuli unappeased due to some other pressing thing.

On the flip side, I understand how I could use this information to 'crush my enemies', but I think I just have too much innate empathy to stomach all of the cold pimp shit. Making a girl insecure down to her core, then rewarding her intermittently is intoxicating to her. All of the emotions on the spectrum, all in intense form! It doesn't just feel good to her, it feels every which way. To me, it just feels bad.

[–]MHOOD01 28 points29 points  (2 children)

You can't have a conscience in the pimp game.

[–]3NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would rephrase that. The conscience that you think you have is more often than not inherited by the very social structures that conspire (intentionally or otherwise) to maintain the status quo.

You should have a conscience– your own, that you build for yourself from scratch. But if you can't do that, then yeah, MGTOW is probably for you.

[–]myexile 12 points13 points  (3 children)

"Making a girl insecure down to her core, then rewarding her intermittently is intoxicating to her."

feelsgoodman

Especially when that same woman, a year ago, would have strung me along for months while fucking chad, just because I was too nice

[–]unpluglife 1 point2 points  (2 children)

How did you do it? What have you done to change?

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Neg her until she respects you then throw her compliments/validation like cookies.

That's a good girl.

[–]myexile 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fuck her really good. Make her cum. Since idk women suck at making me cum, start jerking yourself off after you've been having sex. Let her try to jerk you and if it doesn't work, take her hand off your dick and finish yourself off. I did this plenty of times during our time together (this last short ltr ish thing) though I did cum from having sex and her blowing me.

Say "that was fun" and continue to make her cum more than she makes you cum.

Don't compliment her. Negs like Illimitable said. Act like she really isn't shit, because she isn't, just another girl.

The latest once said to me "Omg I haven't ever been with a guy who is actually as hot as me" I either didn't really respond or just kind of said "mhmm" because I truly didn't believe she was as good looking as I was. Due to my narcissism, I held myself higher than her ALWAYS and she got that vibe. She was never good enough.

I think there is something to be said about how a girl feels when she can't make you cum easily. They either: think you're gay or doubt themselves. If you're banging her often enough she will prob doubt herself instead of thinking you're gay lol.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (6 children)

Try to keep in mind that everything you read on Red Pill is an extreme end of the spectrum (Not to say anything as to the validity of the information provided here). I think these dudes that view women as the enemy are idiots. Truly. Not all of your interests are mutually exclusive. You can work together and be a team and it can be beautiful and restore your faith in women.

My favorite girl ever was this sweet little 8 blonde. She was the "mother-figure" of a group of a few girls that I was friends with. I fucked her the day we met when she came into town to visit my friends. We spent all day together. We stayed up all night talking. I was the soft, emotionally sensitive guy who could also literally pick her up and fuck her in mid air. It was perfect for three days. Not a single shit test. No games. Not a single bad feeling between us. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced. The icing on the cake for me is that I swiped away her from this dude that was taller, more muscular, and more assertive than me. Why did he fail? Because I cared less whether or not I fucked her.

I'm not going to act like I get tons of women, but for the amout of effort I have put in, I have gotten a lot out of it. I can not actually consciously remember a huge, really obvious shit test. I screen women effectively enough with my personality that it does not progress to shit testing. If I get a wiff of the shit odor I usually next her pretty fast.

If you harbor a lot of anger, you're going to get women that harbor a lot of anger. If you find most of your women in bars, or you only go for the make-up slathered girls who literally only have their looks going for them, you're going to find a lot of angry women. On the other hand, if you're funny, smart, witty, in decent shape, and kind, you can be her prince charming fantasy for a little while. It certainly won't work on all girls. I'd say maybe 1 in 4. Also you must have a strong sense of self-respect and alpha-like traits to make up for the beta qualities you showcase.

Once again, this is will not work on all women. Not even a lot of women. Don't even bother going to the bars with it. But it will hugely raise the quality of the interaction with the women you do get.

[–]doritoesNcoffee 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Wanted to add one more thing. Have you noticed how if you get the number of a chick from a bar/club, you have to wine and dine her at least once to screw her... But if you meet her through friends or out on a day game, you can straight up skip all the wine and dining?

[–]an0n4btc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wanted to add one more thing. Have you noticed how if you get the number of a chick from a bar/club, you have to wine and dine her at least once to screw her... But if you meet her through friends or out on a day game, you can straight up skip all the wine and dining?

Pre selection.

Her friends think a man introduced in this manner is such a catch (high value) so she must have him.

Her friends get feel good vibes from playing matchmaker when it works out, whilst when it doesn't then he was a creep (whilst omitting her role as matchmaker, avoiding the guilt on her part of the mess created).

Cold approaching and getting numbers doesn't come with that comfort, so she has to make you jump through a few more hoops (that date) to weigh up your value and also as anti slut defense.

'I didn't just put out to a stranger when we first met'; as opposed to 'Anna introduced him to me, we clicked from the first moment'. The cold approach has no preselection whereas in the latter Anna validated him so she felt more comfortable with this handsome(/positive attribute) stranger.

You could fake preselection via use of wing men/women (the latter would work better) but theoretically having her friends weigh you up will yield better results.

[–]doritoesNcoffee 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Holy shit I feel you on the "prince charming for 3 days". Any chick that I've fucked that was not found in a bar/club does the same thing. No shit tests. You can marathon fuck them all you want and they will act 100x times better than any skank out of a bar. I think you and I run a very similar game.

[–]rpscrote 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Women don't deserve faith. No one deserves my faith, trust or respect until they've earned it from me with repeated, demonstrated good behavior. Man, woman or child. The only people that love you unconditionally are your dog and your mom.

[–]myexile 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And even then, even if they prove to be worthy of faith... they could slip up and lose it.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

u/xxzulu24xx is right. The mindset I'm presenting is the deepest form of a female's subconscious motivations. And just like a man can present feminine characteristics, a woman can present masculine ones at varying degrees.

These points, however, are a woman's driving force; an emotional man still deep down lists for sexual release and a logical woman will still deep down be driven by emotionally based short-term "feel-good" stimuli.

[–]blacwidonsfw 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Brb I'm gonna get my bitch a satellite phone...

All seriousness, great post - understanding these concepts will bring about the understanding that there is no point trying to solve a woman's nature. She will always act like that because her decisions are based on emotions and perceptions at the time of a decision, while a man's decision is based on the accumulation of the lessons of all his experiences.

[–]ApiVat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Seriously thanks. I am baffled how much sense this makes.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children)

why would anyone go into an LTR after having this knowledge?

[–]rpscrote 9 points10 points  (0 children)

first filter out 95% of unworthy women. Once you're in the 5%, realize that they are still the same, they just have some mitigating control over their urges to a greater degree than other women.

So in LTR, even ESPECIALLY in LTR, assume it will end tomorrow. Keep yourself sharp and accept its already over. Its just a matter of the details. But big picture is that it will end.

This realization is freeing. Instead of attempting to prolong a dying relationship, you can slow down and enjoy the time that is shit test free and fun and put the relationship out to pasture once its past its prime.

My old pre RP LTRs became wracked by anxiousness and nervousness (What if she leaves? No... that will never happen... but what if? etc.)

Now its "aww man when I'm single again I gotta make sure I do X Y and Z." I almost anticipate Serial STR/ LTRs falling through.

RedPillDad, I think it was, described this as serial STRs. Basically, short honeymoon period LTRs that you break off as soon as it stops meeting your expectations. Which is invariably 6-9 months. I'm experimenting now with only meeting once a week to extend the length of this sort of thing. Seems to be working but results are not in. Highly time efficient.

[–]TheCarmineCapsule 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If you master frame, with strong understanding of RP principles and with a RP-inclined woman, there are perks in having a familiar companionship and strong partnership. Just protect yourself at all times.

[–]AquanautST 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that was funny AF to me " protect yourself at all times" ( church )

[–]RPJapan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You still get easy sex and other benefits in the meantime

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yeah, just prepare for the eventual cucking unless you keep her locked away while you're not around

[–]Archaellon 2 points3 points  (2 children)

LTR's can definitely be made to work well with the right approaches, that said, I think at least 85% of all women aren't suited to them.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'd argue 95%, but honestly it's all semantics.

[–]TheReasoner94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why I gave up on LTR's a long time ago, women are simply not LTR worthy, especially modern day women. Stay single and work on your game to have as much fun as possible, just make sure you never fall for a womans charm.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Whe women only consider emotional infidelity cheating, it is because they only care if you are emotionally unfaithful. Classic solipsism. Sure, all women will be hurt if you fuck another girl, but they have more reason to be concerned strategically if their support system (provider) is threatened. Therefore male sexual promiscuity is only slightly threatening compared to male emotional promiscuity.

This is a part of why extreme "nice guy" syndrome is so repulsive, even in a man who would otherwise be very attractive. Not only do they lack assertiveness, she really can't even count on you as a provider because you have so little control over your emotions.

It's really a mirror of problems of male perception bias. Men don't like sexual promiscuity and they despise, on some level, sexually promiscuous women.

However, it is necessary to have the undesireables of each gender. Captain Save-a-Ho provides safety and stability to post-wallers and bitchy and/or fat women who don't stand a chance getting a good husband, and sluts provide sexual release to men who will later become good fathers, husbands, and role models. At least, ideally, before marraige was as good an idea as telling holocaust jokes in a synagogue.

[–]Di-onysos 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I'm not sure if "women as enemies" is a good metaphor, except maybe recently reformed BPs. It gives them too high a status.

Better goal state would be "playing tennis/chess with a kid". You actually aren't playing to win, you could win at any moment, but you keep the kid in the game because it's entertaining and he enjoys it. Staying in the spirit of amused mastery.

Of course, the word "mastery" is not there for no reason, so it takes time to attain, but it is what the goal should be.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The fight for sex/validation is a game in which women are our opponent.

Although they're not a fitting opponent, that fact that we're opponents still makes us enemies.

[–]joesmithanonymous 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Every time I think i'm getting over the anger phase I read some shit like this. This is a brilliant post but man it stings.

[–]warjesus420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah man.....after my last LTR I thought I had women all figured out and to my merit it actually was pretty close to TRP and I keep thinking I'm getting past it making me angry Then I'm reminded that AWALT I realize I'm still hoping that NAWALT and I'll find the unicorn. And I see it all holds so true with the current girl I'm fucking. Feels like a mix of depression and anger honestly.

[–]ShanksNes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There is no combating and succeeding against women. There is realistic expectations and healthy boundaries in terms of your relationship's value, your time and energy as well as your opportunity costs.

When you know the dualistic nature of hypergamy, then it simply becomes a matter of maximizing positive opportunities and avoiding risky situations which you come to regret later. So don't marry. If you can fuck birds, fine. If you can't, then go buy some. If you can't, watch porn and jack off till you are satiated. TRP gives you enough immunity against shaming and feminine coercion, and you can take advantage of that and explore your pleasures guilt free.

On the other hand, hating on women won't make you successful with them. It only makes you unhappy, bitter and jaded, and you should avoid it for your own sake. After all happiness is what we're all chasing aren't we?

[–]pluggedinn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This post is very thoughtful but also very depressing. It just kills my want to pursue women. Swallowing the red pill was a great experience for me.. but this touches the extreme. The feeling that I get when I read this is that you don't find anything useful in them and you hate them.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sex is always useful. Other than that, you're better off on your own.

[–]Air4ce1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great post. Especially the "Mental activity" section. The thinking/rationalization was so illogical that I had to stop and read it again to understand how the hamstering line of thinking worked.

[–]Profdiddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't use theology. Use philosophy.

[–]clone9786 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is one of the best posts I've seen in a looong time. Very well thought out and you express your thoughts very well (something that prevents me from making posts haha). It deserves the sticky status it has.

[–]SeekingTheWay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can I subscribe to this or something? Really, magnificent read!

[–]YXxStrykerxXY 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I'm not trying to sound negative, but damn. Why even bother to "fall in love" or care for a creature with that mental mind frame? It's probably my framework has a male counter reacting.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Love doesn't exist.

The best you can hope for is to coexist with a high value woman. Marriage is a scam and LTRs can be seen as a waste of time.

Enjoy life.

With this mindset you'll find that you'll end up much happier than your peers in the long-term. Trust me.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why even bother to "fall in love" or care for a creature with that mental mind frame?

I hope the conclusion you come to is that this falling in love thing is a mistake, rather than the article is mistaken.

[–]reisli -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's kind of the point, I think.

Men are "indoctrinated" from birth thinking that fairytale love exists and we should treat women well and then figure out that it doesn't exist after they get fucked.

If you want anything LTR or above, it's going to be hard work and you may not even be happy. You have to weigh your options.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fucking awesome post, I now understand how and why woman becomes alpha widow.

Is it ok to try to explain all woman's thoughts/actions through this feel-good stimuli? Does completely everyting in her life involve this searching for good feels, or are there exceptions? (not saying NAWALT, but I think sometimes logic can override this primal thinking).

[–]Autodidact-Sanchez 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This enduring pursuit of what you describe as 'feel-good' stimuli becomes much easier to access with social media programs like Instagram. A female will exchange an image of her body for the dopamine rush that is provoked for every like received. Seeking validation is fuel for the engine that is their minds. No wonder some would "die without their phone".

[–]Sigurd228 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This post should get more recognition. It is by far the most comprehensive AND concise writing about the female mental framework that I've seen here. It's wonderful how it encompasses a lot of sidebar material and own examples into a simple, textbook style format. Definitely saving this one.

[–]TheDialecticParadox 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Wow great post OP. Should be stickied.

Although after reading I just feel utter contempt for females.

I know they are and always will be men's opposite, and I this is a forum for sexual strategy, so I should try and keep an open mind, but I can't help but feel pissed off that women have no ability to accommodate accountability.

[–]TheReasoner94 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You're right there, I was just like you when I started to learn about womens true nature, but once you go through the pissed off phase you just feel pity and sorrow for what is a clearly flawed species. Trust me you'll get there, you just need to get the anger and contempt out of your system first.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Reading posts like this makes me laugh more than it makes me angry. It baffles my mind every single time how fleeting and childish women can be.

Getting rattled by what amounts to be a child that's operating on the same level as my younger niece is ridiculous. Imagine me getting upset because because 12 year old Cindy said she didn't want to play with me anymore at family meetings, because I don't excite her anymore. There i'd be driving home, tears in my eyes. "Fuck you Cindy, you stupid whore, how could you!".

Nah

[–]TheReasoner94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You summed it up perfectly, once you realise that what you are dealing with is a gender that has the mentality of a child you simply humour them. Rather than show anger I just laugh, shake my head and move on with my life. There's far more important things to worry about than resenting women for me, like trying to find a cure for cancer, fighting against terroism, the state of the economy and what i'm going to have for breakfast in the morning. Women are there for my sexual gratification and nothing else.

[–]warjesus420 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gotta admit, your comment just made me a lot more at peace with how upsetting this post was for me at first. Made my feelings seem childish themselves. Thank you.

[–]getdamned 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excellent write-up. I have one comment and one question:

Even for someone who has swallowed TRP and can remain indifferent (separation of their ego from a woman's valuation of them), the problem that I run into still is not one of emotional concern, but physical. For a woman who is on the CC or even one who has occasional flings... there is a constant concern about diseases and whatever else these woman could potentially pick up out there which keeps me from fully exploring the possibilities that are afforded to a man by a RP-reformed mentality. This is personally holding me back in this otherwise happy and detached mental position.

The second is a question regarding women's views on male infidelity. If we consider to females, physical cheating/sex < emotional cheating... does this mean a female is more apt to accept or forgive a male's relations with other partners if he offers up the excuse "But it was only physical, I don't really care about her [the other girl] like I do you..." or "It just happened one night, it was an impulsive thing"?

Not saying I'm a player, I'm just curious about the psychology behind that— being, if females refuse to take responsibility for infidelity and see it as something without much "meaning"... does the same rationalization apply in their minds, or is it a double standard (I can cheat but you can't)?

It seems to me that the double standard is the rule, since girls always bitch about men being [physical] cheaters.

Thanks!

[–]RP_Vergil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The insight on the Reception Boardcast tower really put things down in word.

It doesn't even register to them it's a Mistake. As it is something which they perceived to deserve because they have a pussy.

[–]NewlyFoundAgain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On point here brother. That cell tower analogy is perfect. Quatlity TRP shit right here.

Remember that a woman’s beliefs stem from her perceptive and not logical facts, so regardless of all that Prince Charming has provided her in the past, at this very moment she feels hatred and disgust at the thought of him, believing him to be a terrible man for making her feel this way.

This too. Its the honest truth. You can build her a castle, then call her a bitch, and she'll negate the entire thing.

[–]Darkuso 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So is practically imposible have a LTR, right? I mean have one without being cheated.

[–]buttonstraddle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you handle your example in this case? Many of these stuck up chicks will do this instead:

You: They were guys
Her: I don't care who they were. You are disrespectful
You: -silence-
Her: So now you won't even talk to me? You will ignore me? You just fuck women and ignore them?
etc.

Your example actually worked out. The girl writes back, re-establishes contact, apologizes, and moves on. All well and good. Its not always that easy

[–]Buchloe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One most useful posts I've read this year

[–]Primemale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most succinct, informative post I can recall, on the mindset of women. Great cell tower analogy, really put it into perspective!

[–]1CashFrags 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely solid post, i really rnjoyed the cell phone tower metaphot you hit the nail on the hammer.

This has been bookmarked in my trp gems folder will ne showing it to a few pals to.

Solid work

[–]HeinousFu_kery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very well done.

I've been looking into how current popular culture, driven by advertising and consumer-targeting, promotes impulsive "feel good" spending, particularly by women (at the expense of thoughtful spenders - men - who are shown as being passive and stupid). I think that much of the mindset that you write about is mirrored and promoted in our media images because it's so incredibly profitable.

[–]RP15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one of the best TRP posts in a while. Thanks for taking the time. I can't wait for part 2.

[–]Mudmen12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent post, great analogies. This post gives greater credence to the "RP" undercurrent of LTRs being negative and this as clear cut of an explanation as can be

[–]slutnip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Learning women is like learning how to play and master golf. The enemy mindset is wrong. Golf is a game you don't win. You just get better once you get a solid foundation and understanding of the rules/strategies and penalties

[–]Neroky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this wonderful post. I felt like sitting in TRP Classroom while getting a lecture with great examples and easy to comprehend. Great Job!

[–]KEMiKAL_NSF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Question: Can we get the cellphone analogy added to the sidebar thingie? Good shit right there.

[–]NiceTryDisaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is sidebar material. Great post. Thank you.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.

Such profound poeticism to imply there was a time when those who were their own worst enemy simply did not survive, ergo weren't mentioned. Today, most of you are your own worst enemies. Most of your battles will be internal. What we must know isn't the nature of war or a particular opponent: it's the nature of our hard-wiring.

Learn to exploit your own instincts to your advantage; apply your skills to others later on.

"How can I fuck myself over for my own benefit?" makes for interesting dialogue.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"How can I fuck myself over for my own benefit?" makes for interesting dialogue.

No, seriously. How do I do that?

[–]Stonish 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is so helpful, thanks for sharing, espescialy the examples, I can relate to that.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's been my pleasure. Keep an eye out for the next one.

[–]1dongpal 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Then, her Prince Charming leaves for a 2-week vacation to cool off without rectifying her negative emotions. Now she is left alone and in desperate need of some –if not all- her “feel-good” stimuli requirements met, yet all of her resources have walked out the door with Prince Charming.

My biggest fear in LTR. When you or her drive away for 2 weeks and she is alone, you can only hope that she doesnt ride another dick.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You shouldn't be afraid. My goal isn't to instill fear.

You should learn to expect it from all women and know that it's just in their nature.

You can't get truly mad at a dog for barking all night, as barking is in it's nature and the dog feels such an action is justified at that time. Sure, it may frustrate you, and you may wish the dog could comprehend the annoyance its causing you from your perspective (meeting in the morning, long day on the road, etc.), but it is simply incapable of such comprehension as it lacks the appropriate frame of reference.

Women feel the same about hypergamy. It's hardwired in their DNA just like your high libido in comparison to a woman is a result of your higher testosterone levels.

We don't see a constant need for sexual release as "bad" and women see sexual infidelity as "bad".

[–]1dongpal 0 points1 point  (1 child)

oh, so it's all cool then. let her cheat if she wants to

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're going to enter into an LTR, infidelity should be expected at some point.

Otherwise, what's the conclusion? Are you going to marry her, constantly fill her with validation while constantly monitoring your SMV and pursue your own goals yet still always be around her at all times?

Probably not.

The hole they have to fill is too big for just one man.

Giggity.

[–]alreadyredschool 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Mindsets are not the enemy, you have to have the right mindsets. Drop all that hold you back. Inflate the ones that make you better. Be the master of your mindsets.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right in that the mindsets of women aren't the enemy. But when approaching women, especially those new to TRP, it's easier to approach them as you would an opponent.

And once you've mastered your own frame, as u/Di-onysos so elegantly put it earlier, approaching women like you would approach a child.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles."

[–]Zeparic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your example is a good demonstration of what happens when you break the second rule of Tomassi.

Iron Rule of Tomassi # 2

NEVER, under pain of death, honestly or dishonestly reveal the number of women you’ve slept with or explain any detail of your sexual experiences with them to a current lover.

The single most disastrous AFC move a man can make is to OVERTLY describe past sexual experiences and/or give a number (accurate or not) to how many women he’s been with prior to the one he’s with. This simple act, whether you offered the information or she dragged it out of you, ALWAYS comes off as pretentiousness and is often the catalyst for an avalanche of emotional resentment, if not outright emotional blackmail from an insecure woman. This is a rookie mistake that will only take you once to learn.

[–]anacrassis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not half as smart as you think you are. "A" on formatting though.

[–]crack_tobi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Clarity and critical thinking is what this is. Keep up the good work.

[–]coolwords -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Someone here once said that in the world of women, it wasn't the person who solved the problem who got credit, it was the person who first noticed it and complained about it. Something clicked in my head when I read that, I couldn't quite put my finger on it but it explained a lot.

Constantly reminding myself of this during my interactions with them has gotten me a long way in both my personal and professional dealings.

This post right here has given me the comprehension of the above concept which I was previously unable to put into words myself. Thank you.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This should be stickied. Great post OP.

[–]Jani1157 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This really opened my eyes to a lot, with that being said this post bothers the fuck out of me. I understand AWALT as a spectrum and every woman falls on this spectrum at some level. Some are high and some are low. Is the solution to this making sure any negative feelings given to the woman is rectified before you leave each others company or if she does cheat, drop her hard?

[–]hero707 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is literally pointing out why 'game' works. If you just have fun you attract a lot of people.

[–]momomotorboat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Other people are doing their jobs and shit while I'm just here reexamining my life thanks to /u/OmLaLa...

[–]myexile -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So this idea of you dump a girl, even if she was deeply in love with you and the sex, is why she won't come back after a few weeks?

Like you dump her and then 4 weeks later decide to break no contact and try to restart things?