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Rant/VentingGithub introduces "Code of Conduct" that "promotes equality", programmers react (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Myrpl

For those who don't know, Github is currently the number 1 repository hosting service, it allows programmers to host their open source projects in order to share it with the world and collaborate with other members of the Github community. To put it simply, use their github profiles on their CV's as a measurement of performance, to show their contribution to other projects and their own projects.

So, the same company that has issues with the word "meritocracy" (because why putting effort in my skills when I can just claim that I'm a minority and automatically win?) issued a Code of Conduct that can be boiled down to "if you agree with our thought policing, you should put the code of conduct file in every project that you host in our website". They want to tell at a glance whether you're with them or against them in pushing the SJW/LGBTW agenda in the world of technology. You even have to be careful of the words that you use when you criticize someone for their code. Tim Hunt turns to be right at every corner, since now you have to be even more careful of what you say to avoid hurting feels.

Naturally, a post of a programmer disagreeing with the idea became popular https://archive.is/SeFrI and the comments burst in flames, some of those calling out third wave feminism out for its bullshit ideology, how you end up walking on eggshells, paying attention to your language and in case the other person gets offended and happens to be a woman or colored... Oh boy. What if you call Sue's code shit and thinks that you're doing it because you're a white male misogynist shitlord?

Guess what happened to the thread: Hidden and filtered. You cannot even search for the thread anymore. But leave it to the programmers to create another thread asking "why did the previous thread got delisted?" (update: even this discussion thread got delisted, in case you had any doubts) and the top response is:

My guess? The majority of comments expressed opinions that went against one of the mods' dogmas. Hilariously, hiding the thread vindicates the anti-CoC position the mods are presumably trying to suppress.

Not surprising. People are aware of it, and they don't like it. And, in case that you're also a programmer and you're concerned with the thought police that keeps getting stronger, always remember "Law 38: Think as you like, but behave like others".


[–]RichardBelmont 334 points335 points  (56 children)

As a software developer, I've definitely had to put up with sub par performers because of their gender. Management hired a woman who could barely speak English, was a not a good developer on top of that, and put her on my team. I ended up getting a job elsewhere because my workload doubled.

I'm in my mid 30s now, but I was made fun of high school for being into computers. Now that it's seen as socially acceptable, you want me to take my time to teach you, for free, under the guise of being "welcoming"? No thanks.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 126 points127 points  (41 children)

Programming unfortunately has more of this than the rest of the IT world. On the consulting side of things women are incredibly rare. For good reason too, no one is going to hire someone that can tank your professional reputation.

Entry-level positions are a shitshow though. One of my clients hired a female Help Desk specialist that doesn't understand how folder shortcuts work. To think of all the dudes that could have been hired instead...

[–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (10 children)

We hired a woman a couple months ago and every day she continually asks me how to do certain things after I taught her how to do so before her leash was cut. Same question every week, same "oh yeah now I remember" reaction. As you said, to think of all the men that know what they're doing who got looked over because "we needed a woman so HR doesn't get mad that we're the only department with zero woman now that we're 'global'".

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (9 children)

She remembers how to do it, she just keeps asking you to make sure she still has power over you. Woman continuously test and gauge how much of their bullshit you are willing to put up with. Give a inch, take a mile situation.

[–]TheManshack 26 points27 points  (4 children)

This guy is right. I work in the services department of my company. I take care of all the servers, websites, employee computers, etc. as well as servicing client software & servers. Just a general IT guy.

The lead sales lady shit-tested me every single fucking day from the first day I started. She is a post-wall cunt. A few weeks ago I was in the sales office running CAT5 (completely redoing the network in the office because the last person that did it did a shit job) and I was wearing shorts & a shirt because it was 100 fucking degrees outside. She started bitching at me about my clothes being "out of dress code" saying "What if a client came in?!?" while I was in the roof. I walked down the ladder, handed her the 2000ft. box of CAT5, and said "Hope you can run cable and setup a network. I've gotta go change." and fucking left.

She doesn't dick with me anymore - she was way under quota that day because she didn't have network access.

[–]RemyPrice 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's a very interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing it!

[–]recon_johnny 70 points71 points  (28 children)

As an IT Mgr at a college, I hired a newbie girl to open tickets, take calls, etc. She was 8.5-9/10.

Workload wasn't bad, she had free time, and actually learned to do stuff.

I just wanted my boys to have some eye candy 25 hours a week. Having her there helped morale, but calling a spade a spade...it wasn't a make/break position.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 93 points94 points  (27 children)

Commendable, but pretty women are known to disrupt office cohesion. People drop whatever important tasks they have to shoulder the burden of the useless broad. Men are thirsty, don't need that getting in the way of efficiency.

[–]recon_johnny 47 points48 points  (26 children)

She was a student who worked to get money to offset her student loans. She didn't have much to do, less than a month in we went to an offsite call center. She was there for two semesters.

All she did was sit, look pretty, and do her homework, unless someone walked in and needed help; then she pointed to the appropriate desktop tech/network guy. But, she had a really good personality, and was able to talk to the geeks. No-one stumbled over themselves. Edit: Fuck, these guys fucked around playing games and other stuff in their free time--which I was fine with as long as the work got done on time.

She sat outside my office, and added to the office dynamic instead of taking away. Probably one of the better hires I've done.

You're right though; it could have been bad. But, I would have gotten her out if that was the case.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 39 points40 points  (0 children)

It could have, but it sounds like you knew what you were doing, and were a good judge of character. Don't apologize for it.

[–]Hysterics7787 15 points15 points [recovered]

Honestly, from your description, doesn't sound like she really even had a job to do... How can you screw that up?

You know when you're in a grocery store, and the aisles have those signs up in the middle of them, above the aisle itself? And it lists where in that aisle the products are?

You hired a aisle sign...

Simply could have had signs above your various IT guys describing their purpose.

Anywho.

[–]recon_johnny 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Actually, I didn't 'hire' her, in the traditional sense. Colleges look for means to offset costs, my dept was sought out for putting someone in place to help, but really it's a place for kids to do homework. Fairly standard, my daughter is 'working' for the Police dept at her uni. Does homework most of the time.

This girl did do work, I had several reports she was responsible for each week--server status, SAN space/utilization, uptime reports--mostly bullshit stuff I had to do that I could offload.

But yeah, man. She was there to put a little binger to brighten your day. Having a good looking, genuinely sweet, nice, young woman around was a good thing.

But fuck it, I'm thinking I don't need to justify (even though I just fricking did). She was there and am happy for it. It worked for me and my staff.

[–]Stormhammer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Our SRP is female. Sweet as can be, friendly, knows how to get the relevant information out of clients.

But god help those clients if they try to walk over her - she is a goddamn spitfire if you push the right buttons. Once a client called in for an issue and we were all tied up, so she told him " sorry, no engineers are available, but I can make a case and have the next available one call you back." " Bullshit, why don't you get off your fat ass, walk down the aisle and fin-" "YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF IS WHAT YOU CAN DO!" -click-

Guy called back in to apologize lmao

Caveat? Us engineers are 700 miles away...

She gets shit done though, and she gets it done well.

[–]kaspell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please tell us the help desk reference was not post AOL dominance

[–]someguysomewhere321 39 points40 points  (5 children)

If coding wasn't one of the higher paying careers out there these days with relatively low entry barriers for those willing to learn, in an otherwise shitty job market, with startups being perceived as cool as well, there sure as hell wouldn't be any women looking to get into it (except asians, which were always pushed towards STEM careers by parents).

Back in the days open source was the nerd elite and super unwelcoming towards anyone that didn't strive to excel at what they did. Not the most friendly environment, but it certainly pushed people to do their best in order to gain acceptance.

[–]Redpillc0re 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Not the most friendly environment,

Friendliness does not create character, or great products. I wonder what's Torvalds' opinion on this, who is known to have a loud mouth and apparently has a profile on github (I hope linux is not hosted there, though).

[–]skoobled 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Certainly interesting. Especially considering his reputation for irreverent bluntness (he named Git after himself). Also, Linux is maintained the old skool way and is "open source" only in the 90s sense. The Linux source on github is also only a mirror. It would be fascinating to see what would happen if he ever feel up against the SJW crowd. He's seen as something of a genius celebrity by people who don't even know that much about software

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

When I started my first programming job the senior developer, and my intended mentor, was a woman. I arrived on my first day and management was in disarray. The woman had quit suddenly and branch swung (if you will) to one of the customers thereby breaking her contract conditions and proving she's an opportunistic bitch with no integrity.

That's my brief experience with female developers.

[–]WilliamBott 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now that it's seen as socially acceptable, you want me to take my time to teach you, for free, under the guise of being "welcoming"? No thanks.

That's how I see it. You didn't like me before, even though I knew all about computers and could build one from scratch. Now that it's in vogue you want to come up to me asking for handouts/free lessons/hardware?

Fuck you.

[–]Assassin1476 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Girls seem like they have a hard time taking a car out of park and putting it in reverse. I have no idea how they can even become programmers, good ones at that.

[–]Stormhammer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, knowing good developers that are female are rare. I know one of them, and holy shit can she write code, and she will definitely tell you if your code fucking sucks ( I've been the brunt of this, ended up learning how to do learner and more efficient code as a result )

... you really don't expect a 6'0 woman who wears high heels every day and drives a manual lifted jeep on swampers, dresses fashionably, to be a developer, and a good one at that.

I currently work with someone who used to work at the NSA. She's more or less a wizard.

[–]iq8 3 points4 points  (1 child)

When I did my internship for college (in Kuwait) I was put in a team of just me and three other fully covered (face covered niqab) women who knew next to nothing about programming. They literally never said a word to me except yes or ok. It was hell "working" with them.

EDIT: One thing, I think a girl being around some guys is good. They will be more competitive, they will smell better and overall youll get better productivity, regardless of the girls ability as a programmer or whtever.

[–]Stormhammer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hire a girl who can actually program and watch your male colleagues suddenly code better, leaner and more efficient lol

[–]1Claude_Reborn 154 points155 points  (71 children)

SJW's are trying to destroy github and the tech industry, but the awesome thing is, someone will just create a new version of Github, and tell the SJW's to fuck off.

Randi harper is single handedly killing off the FreeBSD community.

The weak will die, and the strong will replace them.

[–]Myrpl[S] 97 points98 points  (25 children)

Ironically, the very person responsible for creating git (which is essential to their service) and Linux, Linus Torvalds, is automatically dismissed by their "feels over reals" standards.

I can't wait for SJW's to attempt to take a shit down one of the most important people of the century just because his feedback is "too offensive", because he explicitly states that his priority is results over feels. Let's see anyone who values feels over results to handle the maintenance of Linux.

For those who're not familiar.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 78 points79 points  (9 children)

That guy does not give a single fuck. I love it. All sjw and shaming comments in that article were downvoted to oblivion. There is hope. I like this one...

Linux is the perfect place to work if you are worried about discrimination. If you choose to be, you can just be an email address with absolutely no hint about who you really are. That makes it impossible to discriminate against you and your contributions will exist solely on their merit.

Women dont like meritocracies because they know they cant compete with men in this field and both SJW's and women like being offended as their new american pass-time and want equal outcome not just equal opportunity in the name of 'equality'.

[–]Hysterics7787 10 points10 points [recovered]

They can compete, but it requires a lot more effort than not competing, and if they can find a route that doesn't involve competing but provides the same benefits. It's not exactly 'equal' outcome, as the steps to reach the outcome are not equal. They want the same outcome as those who have put in more effort.

Again though, I believe that this isn't strictly all women, simply the vast majority, and I also believe that many men do the exact same things when they're able to. Women on average are able to exhibit that behavior more often.

And there will always be the individual who just truly excels at anything, regardless of gender.

[–]Pam_Nooles 18 points19 points  (6 children)

I'm no fan of sex or race discriminatory quotas but I've worked with plenty of very good female software developers. They don't need any help competing.

[–]TitsAndWhiskey 28 points29 points  (2 children)

So have I. All Indian. Not one American.

[–]iiMSouperman 22 points23 points  (1 child)

American women too busy studying gender studies...

[–]prepomatic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. I've been doing this (coding) for 35 years. I've worked with women who were brilliant, good enough, and just ok. I've also worked with men who were brilliant, good enough and just ok. Making assumptions is pretty dumb, but everyone's work product needs to be objectively judged on its merits.

[–]newls 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Agreed. There is absolutely no barrier to women succeeding in tech, except any reason they themselves decide to invent. None whatsoever.

[–]rpscrote 20 points21 points  (3 children)

fucking Ars Technica is such a SJW circle jerking shitbag publication. Anyone with any real knowledge left there long ago.

[–]QQ_L2P 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Any recommendations for a good alternative?

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I've spoken to Torvalds on several occasions, that man has no regard for concern trolls in the most spectacular ways.

The internet is a bastion of freedom for very good reasons: it's impossible to have enough "police" for "criminals"

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[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (3 children)

Winning the women in open source award is like winning the special olympics. Women make up less than one percent of most open source projects.

[–]projectself 11 points12 points  (2 children)

is like winning the special olympics.

so.. even if you win, you're still retarded?

[–]WilliamBott 3 points4 points  (1 child)

More like still a woman, but yeah.

[–]Asoka11111[🍰] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

criticizes Torvaldis, a living legend in Open Source wins an award for Open Source

Assuming her criticism is off-base (I mean come on, we're talking about Torvaldis her), this is a sheer absurd level of hypocrisy. How do you even begin to disparage a guy who was on the front lines for the work you did to receive an accolade? Especially in a time where Apple and Microsoft were all about proprietary ownership. He could've gone the same way, but decided to take a different route and empower the masses.

[–]Wille-zur-Macht 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ironically, the very person responsible for creating git (which is essential to their service) and Linux, Linus Torvalds, is automatically dismissed by their "feels over reals" standards.

I was just about to comment that: how ironical that Git's creator is a guy who says things like:

"I don't respect people unless I think they deserve the respect. There are people who think that respect is something that should be given, and I happen to be one of the people who is perfectly happy saying: 'no, respect should be earned. And without being earned, you don't get it.' It's really that simple."

Here's the video. Good example of frame control. His talk about Git is also worth checking out. Hilariously straightforward attitude.

[–]trp_ta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Umm... what, exactly, is the barrier to entry to giving your time away for free to program? I'm at an honest lost here for how anyone could possibly argue that they're being oppressed because they don't choose to put their energy and time into programming and freely giving away the results.

I'm trying to understand the argument here, not the underlying SJW motivation, which is obvious.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 56 points57 points  (5 children)

It's a great business opportunity.

Call it Git World (in honor of Protein World).

  • Put a hot woman in a bikini on the front of the website with a message: "Are you ready for summer hacking?"
  • Policy on offensive language: "Sticks and stones may break my bones..."
  • Fill the office with meritocracy rugs.
  • Part of the profits go to organizations that promote freedom of speech and privacy - two things that SJWs oppose.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Free publicity too.

The outrage machine of the internet will certainly attack it, which will cause subscription rates to soar.

I've considered starting, "outrage" products before. Never sure whether I want to attach my name to them though.

[–]KaribouLouDied[🍰] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

With a username like yours, I would be on board in a heartbeat. No one works harder than someone with a cocaine face.

[–]barryberry 32 points33 points  (12 children)

I'm not that worried about the destruction. The great thing about community coding is that everyone can see your code and can tell if it is shitty or not. Even if you are not allowed to say it's shitty because you might offend someone it's still shitty and it won't be used or doesn't get merged into the project. Standards for code are not going to change because of a code of conduct.

It is just too bad the industry is full of SJW's that feel the need to put time into wasted efforts to get women and other minorities into coding. This time could also be used doing something productive.

[–]reasonableman1 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Wait.

Yes people will be able to see if your code is shitty or not, but plenty of people won't be able to say anything about it for fear of ostracism or worse. And another half of the people will be so brainwashed that they won't be able to tell that it is shitty and if it is blatantly bad, they will blame the patriarchy or white oppression.

See also:

  • Gender differences
  • Racial differences
  • Religion

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Standards for code are not going to change because of a code of conduct.

Hopefully not, but don't be so sure about it. SJW like to infiltrate everything, all you need is for them to be in a position of influence and they can start accepting patches from people they like and rejection them from those they don't. The damage will be done before people have time to realize what's going on and do something about it. It's certainly recoverable, disgruntled people can leave, fork the existing work and remove the trash, but it will hurt those projects.

[–]SeekingTheWay 5 points6 points  (9 children)

not to mention that if they succeed, we will lose half our cooks

[–]199639 41 points42 points  (8 children)

Honestly I know more men than women that cook these days. Women see it as sexist oppression and just eat frozen garbage. Guys sometimes have an interest in it intellectually or because they need cheap high quality food to support their body building goals.

[–]magus678 30 points31 points  (6 children)

All the men who I know in long term relationships do the cooking.

I myself am nothing special, but I have probably only dated a handful of girls I would say cook better than I do.

Most of them seem to have some weird pride in not cooking. It's in the same tone they mention not knowing about computers, math, or world events.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I only know one couple where the woman cooks better than the man.

[–]paradimeshift 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I've always thought about where that pride comes from. How can someone ever be proud of their ignorance?

[–]magus678 13 points14 points  (2 children)

What I actually think?

I think that women both want to date, and want to be, caricatures of real people. They are so heavily influenced by trends and media that they simply adopt whatever archetype they wish.

Since most popular archetypes don't include things like math they will gleefully announce ignorance of it, almost as a celebration to herself of how well she is playing the part.

Real people accrue a mishmash of skills and interests that are sometimes even dichotomous; this reflects the growing process. But people living as these caricatures will truncate their past to more expertly emulate the chosen character.

Unless of course, the character can have "former nerd" or something in its background (so meta!)

[–]paradimeshift 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Your comment has made me realize that many woman don't cook because they're acculturated into an environment that doesn't value those skills. Stereotypical example:Russia where woman learning to cook a good meal isn't seen as repression, but rather expression of creativity,love and respect for another in the relationship.

Both me and my Dad have learned to cook adequately. Not for anyone else, but for ourselves. When my dad got married, he wasn't whipped, he let my mom cook for two months and then got fed up with the shit quality. Ever since then he's been making dinner and mom cleans up. My dad likes the arrangement since he genuinely enjoys cooking for others and demands equal favors back. It depends on perspective. I enjoy cooking, but not every day. When I marry, my wife had better be a better cook than me, because I'm not coming home from a long day achieving goals only to have KFC waiting. Perhaps I need to look outside the West for this.

[–]Azzmo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The notion in your post is worthy of its own thread. It's something that we all know in the back of our minds but never quite verbalize so eloquently as you've done here. And men are guilty of it, too.

It's a natural human inclination to be inspired by something and to emulate it but now that's become a cultural trap that we gladly march into, probably because we're primed to respond to it by the commercialism of the society we're raised in.

[–]SeekingTheWay 15 points16 points  (0 children)

and you could certainly count me in one of those guys. i was just making and obviously stereotypical joke.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (10 children)

So long as RMS doesn't die we'll continue to have freedom in computing, my only worry is that he's getting old.

Also it's hilarious that women are trying to say that minorities are struggling in the tech industry, couldn't be further from the truth.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 27 points28 points  (7 children)

Minorities in this case is code for blacks. Asians are all over the tech industry. It's easier to get a tech job as an asian dude than as a cis white male shitlord btw.

[–]Rathadin 9 points10 points  (6 children)

How can they get tech jobs when their culture emphasizes drug dealing, rapping, or playing sports...

I know lots of black people. I only know one in tech. Although he does work for Google, which makes him a pretty rare unicorn.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Their culture is a product of their genes, not the reverse.

Simply put: black people have lower IQ, but superior physique. That's why you see hardly any white men on the NBA court and hardly any black men in astrophysics or computing. 2% of whites have 130+ IQ. With blacks, only 0.1% of them have an IQ of 130+. The funny thing is, a lot of the smart guys who people will claim are black aren't even fully African. Neil deGrasse Tyson and Obama aren't hot-blooded Africans. They are mixed race.

It is what it is but bitches who can't handle reality are gonna cry racism because that's easier than accepting the unfair nature of reality.

Another fun fact: Blacks have the highest average testosterone level of all the races (explains the crime rate.) Google this shit, the data is there.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh no not the downvotes. Anything but the downvotes.

[–]OlanValesco 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think I would have a good laugh if sports leagues mandated demographic-based race quotas. "Sorry we had to cut you, only 12.6% of the team can be black. Where are my 4.75% Asians!"

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

From their point of view, until tech demographics match general demographics, it's racist and sexist and help government I need mah gibs!

[–]Brave_Horatius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They won't even be happy with that. They want vengeance for alleged historical grievances.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 21 points22 points  (8 children)

There's always bitbucket, it lets you have free private repos too.

[–]1FrogTrainer 11 points12 points  (6 children)

I've seen companies use bitbucket over Github for political reasons alone. GitHub has a "bad rep" due to the discrimination lawsuit a few years back.

The problem is... bitbucket is slow as shit compared to GitHub. So they literally lose money and productivity for it.

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[–]1FrogTrainer 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It's not. Especially considering BitBucket will give you unlimited free repos for a team up to 5.

[–]choikwa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so many options other than private companies for hosting git exist. heck, you could even fire up your own server using static IP, though I probably wouldn't recommend that for other reasons like security.

[–]Nicolay77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally, just install GitLab in whatever server you choose.

Nowadays GitLab also works as an alternative to GitHub, hosting your repositories in their servers.

[–]TheRealMewt 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Hate to break it to you, but if Github has a successor that starts off not pandering to SJWs, then they will eventually cave to the very people they made a policy to not conform to. It's the vicious cycle of tolerance.

[–]NidStyles 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Not if it's started by one of us.

[–]normalfag 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You can also tell GitHub to go fuck itself and host your own git server using GitLab. You could easily make a Github alternative using that.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 70 points71 points  (8 children)

My favorite part:

Although this list cannot be exhaustive, we explicitly honor diversity in age, gender, [...] and technical ability*. We will not tolerate discrimination based on any of the protected characteristics above[...]

So you're not allowed to discriminate against technical idiots on a site that hosts computer source code. Brilliant idea.

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (3 children)

Ha! This reminds me of a 'Programming Camp' in Northern California that had a discount for certain people. The discount group that would get $500 off the tuition due to 'promoting diversity' were.... Asians, Blacks, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, all Females regardless of race, and Veterans.

Basically what they were saying was... if you're a white male that hasn't been in the military, we're charging you $500 extra in the name of diversity.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 22 points23 points  (1 child)

That's nuts. I would have benefited from that policy and I still think it's going way too far.

Thanks to Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner, we can now comfortably identify as female to take advantage of these sorts of policies.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Dug it up off google. Looks like they switched up their wording on the issue from when I checked it out over a year ago, but it's still hilarious. "We always offer $500 scholarships for..." http://devbootcamp.com/tuition/

They are basically beating around the bush now to make it sound nicer that they're not being discriminatory. Oh check this out, looks like Asians/Indians/Middle-Eastern males got wiped off the list. Can you just smell the Asian privilege propaganda coming in the next few years? I can.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've noticed this is a growing trend. One of the biggest tech conferences in the Midwest, Strange Loop (yes that Strange Loop) has "opportunity grants" specifically for these groups. Whatever, the conference can do what it wants, but I don't have enough privilege to cover the nearly $1000 fee every year (for the general conference and all preconf sessions). Granted, some companies will cover this cost for their developers, but many won't, especially since the conference is eclectic and not geared toward any specific technology stack (which limits its appeal to employers that are invested in specific stacks).

[–]holytrpbatman 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Yep, that's it. Mediocrity is the new standard of excellence.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You're not allowed to discriminate based on race or gender, but if you hire based on nothing but merit and experience, it's racist and sexist.

So in order to not be racist and sexist, you have to discriminate based on race and sex.

Crazy world.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (3 children)

Every centralised structure is a target for SJW.

Git hub is too centralised. It is time to create another GitHub.

[–]Kraou 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Here's a recent article about a decentralized github

http://blog.printf.net/articles/2015/05/29/announcing-gittorrent-a-decentralized-github/ (with the corresponding github -yeah- repo: https://github.com/cjb/GitTorrent/blob/master/README.md )

I think this topic already surfaced recently, and I discovered this article then (maybe from here?).

[–]1aguy01 49 points50 points  (9 children)

From the meritocracy article about GitHub's 'United Meritocracy of GitHub' rug:

GitHub's Julie Ann Horvath, a designer who also founded the company's all-female lecture series Passion Projects, said the rug first became a problem when photos of it made their way into feminist discussions online.

Feminists hate meritocracies because they know women cannot compete. They know, deep down, that men are better at these kind of jobs, but they still want to reap the benefits of the work without actually competing, because how else is she going to take care of all her cats?

[–]Myrpl[S] 33 points34 points  (2 children)

If you ctrl+f "meritocracy" on the first programming thread, you'll see some gems.

Oh my fucking God. I'm not a programmer because I was white and entitled. I'm a programmer because my mother could afford a computer and I spent all of my free time on it as a kid. Poor urban kids probably don't have the same luxuries. The schools probably don't have the same amount of Technology or classes or teachers available, making it harder for urban students to learn, not their fucking skin color. It's a goddamned social class issue, at the minimum, but it has nothing to do with the color of their skin or their reproductive organs.

Also, remember the top comment from the thread "women see the world as a persisting state" about how women view self-improvement. They just cannot comprehend that luck requires effort first, no. They take a shit down every successful entrepreneur, calling white males who succeeded in Silicon Valley (alongside Paul Graham) as "merely lucky for being white" and they are against merit.

Also, funny how only the white men are being blamed for being simply at the right place at the right time, as if the feminist who got an MIT scholarship because there's a male/female quota to be met wasn't part of that oh so hateful meritocracy, no. That's equality to them.

[–]1aguy01 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Also, funny how only the white men are being blamed for being simply at the right place at the right time, as if the feminist who got an MIT scholarship because there's a male/female quota to be met wasn't part of that oh so hateful meritocracy, no. That's equality to them.

Yep, don't forget the African American Women getting into Harvard with 3.5 gpas, low SAT scores, and no extracurriculars. Meanwhile the Asian guy with a 4.2 gpa is declined because his ACT score was only a 32.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Haven't you heard? Supporting meritocracy is a "microaggression" now.

https://archive.is/zMDUr

One of the largest categories of microaggressions are those that that promote the “myth of meritocracy.” According to the document, this “myth” is spread by statements such as “America is the land of opportunity,” “I believe the most qualified person should get the job,” and “Affirmative action is racist.”

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Affirmative action is racist as FUCK, whether or not you believe in meritocracy

[–][deleted] 82 points83 points  (37 children)

Why the FUCK do people give into these fucking clown sjw's? Isn't it time to fucking tell them to shut up now? Tell them to fuck off and that they have perpetuated racism and sexism more than any other movement?

[–]NidStyles 48 points49 points  (36 children)

They don't give in. SJW's simply invade everything. If they see a business that doesn't cater directly to their demands, they start working their way into the employment and up the management chain to change it. Remember how Chick-Fila had that anti-gay thing a while back? Well every Chick-Fila in my city now has a staff loaded with gays and SJW's.

I have no idea how they organize, but it's obvious that they are. Their as bad as the damn Gestapo.

[–]WAFC 25 points26 points  (6 children)

I'd have to see your Chick-Fil-As to believe that. Every single person to serve me at any CFA has been a clean-cut christian teenager.

[–]lickemandSTICKem 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah that sounds more anecdotal to me than anything. I too only see clean cut Christian teens and young adults

[–]NidStyles 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Hey I thought they were too, until one of the dudes behind the register hit on me. Then as I was sitting there watching him interact with the other workers, it was obvious that they were not straight males. So when I am leaving, I check out their cars, and bam on the back of all three employ cars (there were only three of them in the store at the time) are little rainbow flags. Your car will say more about you than you think. So I started going to a different one across town, and 5 out 7 cars I have seen in the parking lot when I go have rainbow flags on them as well. I go late during the weekdays, because I lift late at night.

These guys are organized some how, and I have no idea where they do it.

[–]ColonelHerro 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Lol, you started going to a different restaurant because the one you went to was staffed by gay people?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm fairly certain he was checking out if his hypothesis was correct.

[–]sadleaf 7 points8 points  (6 children)

They follow the Antonio Gramsci manual for the 'new' left. Instead of doing the revolution with weapons like Russia in the early XX century, they now infiltrate in academic sectors like universities, media, even the church and then doutrinate or brainwash kids to be reprogrammed into new sjw soldiers.

It's really terrifying, EVERYTHING is connected. From hollywood to harward university, political parties and stuff. They act like robots doing what they are programmed for. Usually, nobody but the heads of the movement knows of their true intention but they keep repeating it anyway.

Just ask yourself if you truly believe that most of the feminists know the real consequence of feminist. Basically all material presented here in TRP is very well known by these SJW heads and social engineers and they are being used to disrupt the society as a whole.

There's an old documentary called the agenda which kinda explains this sjw movement, even though the documentary is alittle but old.

[–]NidStyles 5 points6 points  (4 children)

It can't just be through education, as that is not directly effective enough to keep people on task. Hollywood is obviously occupied, but most kids these days don't even watch TV in my experience. They spend their time playing videos games.

To be honest, there appears to be a select group writing their policy. A select group that has been known throughout history to be culturally subversive and manipulative.

[–]sadleaf 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'm talking about the earliest stages of school, like kindergarden. Teachers are influencing our kids deturping values of right and wrong. History books are being rewritten hitting capitalism and showing how glorious marxism is.

Seriously, just read the kids history books. They may not watch tv and only play video games, but they need to study for their tests and since they won't pursue a second opinion in a lot of areas, all they will know is the SJW position.

If they infiltrate in academy, the new students which will be teachers in some years will leave it already doutrinated. These false knowledge will be passed on to our children by these persons and they cycle is only going to get bigger and bigger. This is Gramsci objective.

I'm talking about long term, something like 50 years from here.

[–]NidStyles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My school experience was different, but it was also like 15 years ago, so I can see that.

[–]throwaway320_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They spend their time playing videos games.

Guess which media the SJWs are setting their claws in these days.

[–]NidStyles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are all over Comics, and most other popular culture mediums already too. It makes the new comics literally unreadable with how dumbed down they are now.

[–]JollyO 4 points5 points  (1 child)

If you're interested in the strategy read Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals."

[–]BreezeDM 26 points26 points [recovered]

Time to move my repos elsewhere

[–]Senior Contributordeepthrill 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Bitbucket. Better pricing model for companies too. Good features. Just based on merit alone I had chosen bitbucket. Ironic.

[–]OrpheusV 9 points9 points [recovered]

Join the Mercurial dark side. Honestly use it more than git.

[–]MetacognitiveMan 2 points3 points  (10 children)

I'm what ways is hg better than git?

[–]ericatx 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Womyn want control of the entire STEM industry so the men can be downgraded to the janitorial and mechanic industries.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It'll be pretty fucking hilarious when they beg the janitors to fix their shit the day before GA.

[–]Kanyin 8 points8 points [recovered]

That's fine as long as we start charging fucking outlandish prices.

[–]neptronix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want outlandish prices, maybe we should unionize as a gender, lol.

[–]Silver-Monk_Shu 22 points23 points  (5 children)

Incoming spam pull requests demanding you add the code of conduct, you're constantly flooded with unimportant emails detailing how you forgot to put the CoC.

100's of tickets reminding you how you "accidentally" forgot.
"I noticed you forgot to put the CoC, so I did you a favor and wrote it up for you, all you have to do is accept my request and it'll be fixed :)"

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That has a really nice authoritarian vibe to it. "I noticed you forgot to add Hail Hitler". "It's nice and all, but why have you omitted to mention the name of our beloved First Secretary?"

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Put a token CoC with 'What sort of programming project needs a stupid code of conduct'

[–]XplittR 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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[–]Rathadin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I guess you'll need to write up an auto-responder with, "I didn't forget a fucking thing. Eat shit and die."

[–]troll_bends_fir 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The perfect bait. Just list everyone who submits changes to a COC file.

[–]_Ozu_ 24 points24 points [recovered]

It seems as though every popular internet community is in the process of putting SJW ideology into policy. It will drive a lot of people away into the arms of an alternative community.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Only the people doing actual work.

No way all the competent people could form their own communities and make the meritocracy even more exclusive.

[–]someguysomewhere321 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I had a look into Geek Feminism, which is prominently mentioned regarding the code of contact among major open source projects like Django, Python & Ubuntu.

They have a page on recruiting women, which states:

Some of the reasons projects might want to recruit more women include:

*A sense of social justice or that it is the right thing to do

*Want graphic designers, documenters, or people with "people skills", and think women will provide that

*Believe that having more women in a group will make the men behave better

*Think that a diversity of interests and experience will make for a better or more interesting event/product/whatever

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Recruiting_women

When you have to resort to alternative routes to recruit otherwise unavailable candidates of specific races and genders, it sure as hell leads to reverse discrimination, overpaying to hire specific races or genders and accepting otherwise unqualified candidates just to appear progressive / to meet diversity quotas.

Those with actual skills that merit their hiring must be pissed that they're seen as just another affirmative action hire that was just barely good enough.

[–]f3yleaf 36 points37 points  (3 children)

This is gonna be hilarious and will end up leaving github as a substandard place for incompetent people, pretenders and sjw's. While people who care about code will move elsewhere and the few sjw minded people with actual talent and passion for code will be forced to stfu and follow.

There are already good alternatives to GitHub.

[–]MaxV331 1 point2 points  (2 children)

For the uninformed what are some alternatives ?

[–]f3yleaf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gitlab, Bitbucket and others.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Programmers are obsessive nerds telling them not to question a flawed ideology is going to make them obsessively question a flawed ideology.

[–]8thhenry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Correct. Their field requires a mentality that is always questioning and rooting out problems.

[–]newls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is partly what set off GamerGate. Corrupt SJW journalists trying to shame gamers into playing non-fun games.

[–]pehpe 7 points8 points  (6 children)

I work in tech, for a company that openly hires females because wohoo girl power (I am male, and only 1 of 2, besides the owner. 6 girls, 3 males total including the owner).

We work with only magento ecommerce.

Here's how our dev team is set up:

1 female project manager, 1 female business administration/h.r. girl, 1 girl graphic designer, 1 girl who does design, 1 girl who does configurations (and tries to do backend stuff but doesn't know coding that well), and 1 new hire who started part time in November and turned full 3 week ago. 1 male who does backend stuff, and the male owner who does misc stuff, etc. I got hired to do backend stuff.

Here's the thing. I started 2 weeks after the new hire girl also part time. I started months / years after other people.

In 3 weeks I was surpassing the girl who did the configurations and tried to do coding. Within 3 months I was getting on level of catching up with the backend male developer. Now? I am on or above his level and he's a senior programmer. I digress though...

My point of all this is that the project manager lady, who is also the owners wife, is an open feminist and has stated that they like hiring girls. You want to know what else? I'm working for 31k a year in a job that other places would start in the 40s.

I'm making less money than the graphic design girl who doesn't even know how to set up a product in the admin. (I've heard her state she makes 37k). The new hire girl? She can barely do anything and since turning full time routinely comes to me for help. I'll tell her how to debug something or how to test to get to the root of the issue. She won't listen. Just today, I literally solved the problem for her but it wasn't good enough for her. Three days ago she somehow, in some (you have to be retarded) way, deleted almost an entire server while trying to UPLOAD files over FTP. I have no idea how, but yet again I was asked to clean up her fuck up. Although I'm looking for a new opportunity, it is just mind blowing incomprehensible that a girl like this is actually making more than me and costing the employer more. I highly doubt they are paying her less, besides the fact I know she is getting full health (I am young enough to still be on my parents). It's complete and utter bullshit, and that's why the only reason I am here is to get some more experience.

The other girls? I know theyre all making more than me, as one, who does the configurations has openly stated at one of our team lunches that one of her reasons for working here was "the pay is so good".

Just thought id share how incredibly fucked up these ideologies will turn a company.

Side note: girls are some of the worst at working with computers and programming. They have literally zero thinking or problem solving skills besides "this doesn't work waaaah"

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Bout to reframe the living fuck out of u homie.

The reality is that you are in a GREAT situation. Your boss is clearly an idiot and his company will definitely fail... But HIS FAILURE IS YOUR EPIC WIN.

You went from zero to competing with an experienced programmer in three months? YOU ARE FUCKING KILLING IT BRO. That is fucking amazing.

I can only assume that you must have had access to the surplus time and energy to learn those skills. All I have to say is, DONT QUIT YOUR JOB, MAINTAIN THAT ACCESS.

A higher salary is worthless in the long term. But MORE KNOWLEDGE???? Dude that shit is priceless, I'm not kidding, knowledge converts to dollars very easily.

If you're in a situation with access to the resources you need to improve your knowledge, you are in an INFINITELY BETTER situation than you'd be if you made six figures but had no time to learn.

Your boss's idiocy is your opportunity. KEEP TAKING IT, because it's smart as fuck. Worry about salary later when you have all the knowledge you need.

[–]pehpe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a positive way of looking at it and was encouraging to read. I know what you mean 100% and will be out of there by january of next year, come rain or shine. I refuse to be played like this, and worst case, assuming my other current options fall through, I'd make more money working for myself. I've learned A LOT.

The best part? You're 100% right. There's a new version of the software coming out that is completely different and, there is training that they are mandating that I do everyday :)

tl;dr you're right. I'm set.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Get a different job where you're appreciated. Doesn't it disgust you while dumb bitches who you code circles around and could do each and every one of their job better get paid MORE than you??

[–]someguysomewhere321 6 points7 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

RIP meritocracy in tech. It was fun while it lasted :(

Isn't it ironic that they are trying to use identity politics to justify taking down a meritocracy, whereas the entire point of a meritocracy is that your identity doesn't matter?

[–]neptronix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some genders are more equal than others.

[–]skoobled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's logical understanding though. The thought process is: tech isn't equal, and it's based on this "meritocracy" thing. Ergo meritocracy is to blame and must be stopped!

Next thing we'll be legislating against computers for only understanding 0 and 1

[–]Asoka11111 9 points9 points [recovered]

As someone who is just getting into git, GitHub, and Open Source development, it makes me sad they decide to corrupt GitHub in the name of "equity" before I became adept with using it.

[–]normalfag 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Don't be discouraged. Remember Github does not own git and there are other git repos out there. If you want to contribute to a FOSS project I would advise that you simply do not engage the people who wave the CoC as a means to shut down discussion. They are no better than bible thumpers arguing with theology scholars.

[–]Echelon64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fork a FOSS project, stick it on bitbucker, gitorious, etc. Shit make your own. Github isn't related to git's creation or development in any way.

[–]poopie420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a reason the majority of IT consultants/contractors are not womyn. The ladies tend to go after full time gigs, because it's the equivalent of getting a beta. You just have to smile and get in there and your set for as long as you want to be.

[–]monzzter221 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Welp, github is about to get themselves put out by fresh new competition.

Any time a community driven project adopts political ideology to its platform you wind up with a diaspora of users. Especially something technical like github, their user base is going to drop like a stone.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Programmers are logic-minded people, sjws are "feels" based. Github will sink and a user exodus will begin to a freer and more logic-oriented site.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 6 points7 points  (2 children)

The actual code of conduct itself is pretty benign: http://todogroup.org/opencodeofconduct/

I do believe we should always keep a meritocracy though, and there should always be the option to say "this is a load of horseshit". If that hurts feelz, tough because we're trying to get shit done here.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

PS ... if women think they can compete and do better, let them try. Ladies: create your company or open source project, do it all yourselves, and try and beat us. And pretend to have boy names so that you are not prejudiced against*.

*get special treatment.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's just the first version, the changes will be insidious.

[–][deleted] 7 points7 points

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[–]neptronix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Racism, sexism, and heterophobia are the words we should use to describe that mentality.

[–]Urasquirrel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a developer, fucking bullshit. I'm thinking I may include "their" file, but change it "slightly" and then host it for everyone to use. Use a similar name and everything. Rules will be something like treat others how you want to be treated, and in the end acknowledge the fact that there is only one race, and people are treated the same despite sex. Anyone who says racism or sexism is only pushing the culture for it. If you think someone is descriminating don't cry about it like a baby, be proud of yourself for being who you are and push through the shit with your head held high.

[–]Redpillc0re 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Really disturbing and not a good sign for the silicon valley that this kind of attitude is considered progressive. The shitbags are all riled up to prove that women can learn to program (the super vast majority can't ; only a small percentage can), yet they have no problem with uber or airbnb destroying millions of jobs worldwide.

[–]SilentForTooLong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What jobs does Airbnb destroy?

Actually...not even that sure what jobs Uber destroys exactly?

[–]neptronix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps the tech industry needs to move out of San Francisco. Notice where all these companies that do selective censorship based on ideology are based..

It's time for some red or purple state to pick up the slack.

[–]BadMoles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Over here in England the acronym SJW has quite a different meaning but ironically I think it fits most Social Justice Warriors quite well.

Slack Jawed Wankers.

[–]teiman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Deleting the thread was the right thing to do, because was troll baiting and because was off-topic.

I am happy the OSS is a meritocracy, and I don't want it to be changed. Is a good thing whe present a fight against troyan horses like this stupid code of conduct. No all the CoC was bad, only these that are a attack on meritocracy.

[–]nicodomeus 6 points7 points  (2 children)

So I can not name my variables nigKikeNogBeanerFem anymore?

[–]OrpheusV 4 points4 points [recovered]

Well, it's not exactly clear what that variable would be, so it's shitty programming pratice anyways.

[–]nicodomeus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Um, It is for finding all the feminist nignog beaner kikes in the DOM. Geeze.

[–]1sardinemanR 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yeah totally, all those Asians and Indian programmers just claim they're a minority and bam that's all they've got. Totally, nerdy Asian programmers are incompetent minorities!

You definitely could have made your point without the minority bashing. In tech, there are lots of skilled minorities.

[–]skoobled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's more, hiring is so overboiled that you could be a fucking Martian but will get hired in a heartbeat if you can demonstrate the requisite skills

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I work in an entry level IT position doing T-SQL and help desk type things. We have one woman on are team who was formally trained and seriously knows her shit. (better than me even)

But another that was employed here for almost 8 months was an utter waste of space. I know she was making more than most of us. She came in and spent most of the day making small talk and flirting. (recently divorced with two kids..) Everyone's ill feelings were ignored at first on the basis that it must be a gender thing, give her more of a chance. Long story short, the manager(male) that hired her got booted to another department and the next manager(female) canned her ass so quick.

[–]studiov34 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I remember the discussion thread where they tried to get someone removed as a contributor to a project because of his twitter account. What a joke.

There is no racist, sexist, privileged, straight, gay, cis, or offensive code. There code that works well, and code that doesn't. It's the great equalizer that allows anyone to contribute and become part of a project and improve their skills.

I'm afraid if the SJWs get their way, that whole idea will be ruined.

[–]catbrainland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no racist, sexist, privileged, straight, gay, cis, or offensive code

Feminist software foundation

C plus equality

Interestingly, this CoC thing is probably to have unified stick to beat future mock feminism with.

[–]garlicextract[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A fundamental concept of control theory is the master/slave relationship. Guess where the fuck that came from.

[–]BIGBIGBIGMEANIE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

WHAT A BUNCH OF SJW QUEERS

[–]TheManshack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a programmer who previously had things hosted on GitHub, they can kiss my ass goodbye. Hello BitBucket!

[–]aenigme 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I once worked at a high profile, enterprise "cloud" company. Beside me sat a young 20-something, female "programmer" in java. One day over lunch, she explained to me that she didn't have internet at home.

http://i.imgur.com/O3JOW2B.gifv

[–]DrXaos 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She probably did.

She didn't want to be expected to work on off-hours.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/kcaqVNJABfk

Women in the workplace... nuff said

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yet another reason to switch to Bitbucket.

[–]8thhenry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This could be anywhere that is performance based. Once some scumbag can't make it they will pull out the X card and blame that as the reason they cannot make it.

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