Men's RightsLesbian pro basketball player divorce-raped by "wife" (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by RCFlyboy

Summary: Lesbian WNBA player pressured into marriage by pregnant (via sperm donor) girlfriend. Cheating girlfriend now wants $20,000/month in child support.


Link to story!

WNBA player Brittney Griner recently married her girlfriend Glory Johnson (who identifies as straight - WTF?). She's now filed for annulment, alleging that Johnson was cheating with her ex-boyfriend(s), and that she pressured Griner into marriage by getting pregnant via a sperm donor.

Johnson is demanding $20,000/month in child support from Griner as well as a $10,000 advance on attorney's fees.


Speaking from a black knight perspective, I want to break out the popcorn when I see this sort of thing - women being subject to the rules men have been forced to live by. Will she be forced to cough up support for this child not related to her?

Now that same-sex marriage is becoming more common, it's going to be interesting to see how the family courts treat the resulting divorces. What I suspect is that the partner who seems more masculine and/or has the most money is going to be treated as the "oppressor" and forced to pony up for the more feminine partner, regardless of the actual genders of the parties involved.

[–]BlueFreedom420 597 points598 points  (69 children)

They will probably find the sperm donor and make him pay everything. I'm not even joking.

[–]moneyandsexislife 213 points213 points [recovered]

Gentlement, this is not a joke.

Marriage & insemination are slavery.

[–][deleted] 203 points204 points  (7 children)

Shit. The father exists if and only if the mother wants him to exists.

Feminism is out of control.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 133 points134 points  (6 children)

The father is now a social construct. The father is who ever the law desires it to be.

[–]502isthenew420 56 points56 points [recovered]

Fathers have always been social constructs. The Patriarchy is a social construct. Zero-paternity hookup culture is the "natural state" of things that we are drifting back to as the social construct weakens. The problem is that our society is still configured for a patriarchal monogamous support system for spouses and offspring, however the actual behavior patterns are shifting. Universal basic income and single-payer healthcare represent a more fully developed matriarchal system in terms of the support mechanisms for the women and children. Specifically, once those are in place, the support burden will be shifted away from the vanishing patriarch and back towards the brobther.

*edit: You are also the brother anyway, so you're still not getting out of anything.

As an aside, I think most of our problems are due to the artificial melding of the two natural and (as we all well know) thoroughly distinct masculine roles, that of lover or brother/provider. Once the glue goes, the whole thing flies apart.

[–]SleepNowMyThrowaway 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Welcome - to - the machine. Pink Floyd

Feminism, Socialism, SJW - they all will eventually eat themselves as they have no organic growth, no works or production.

Once the ticks have killed the hosts (or the host has escaped) there's nothing left but to eat each other.

[–]anecdotal 17 points18 points  (0 children)

All tax payers are fathers. I should be allowed to spank random hell kids acting out in public.

[–]lestratege 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The father has always been a social construct. Until DNA testing came along 25 years ago, no father has ever been sure to be one.

[–]Tqbfjotlds 79 points79 points [recovered]

From the article this sentence stood out -

Had a physician carried out the insemination, that would not be the case, because Marotta would be able to document that he was a sperm donor and not the lover of the girl's mother,

So the actual difference seems to be whether the man "got sex" or not. If the man got sex from the woman he owes her and has to pay up.

[–]moneyandsexislife 48 points48 points [recovered]

Nice catch.

And nice that the courts have ruled de facto prostitution.

[–]the_red_scimitar 22 points23 points  (0 children)

That is perhaps the best point that could be made about it.

[–]Gnometard 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Most. Expensive. Hooker. Ever.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 8 points9 points  (1 child)

For now. There's already been cases where medical confidentiality of donors was pitted against the right of individuals to know their parents. So far, the judges have ruled in favor of the former, likely because there's a lot of money that can be made from sperm donation, and it would be premature to kill that cash cow. But men get divorce raped every day and more clueless guys still get married, so I can very well see the children winning out in the end, if the courts believe men will keep donating.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't even think it's the money. If they got rid of sperm banks it'd be more or less impossible to get pregnant without a willing partner (even if he's just jerking into a cup in a private setting), and having a baby becomes very difficult if not impossible for a lot of single women who don't want to deal with men directly. I don't see that going over very well.

[–]StrokeGameHusky 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I thought it was artificial insemination? I may have miss read it.

[–]JediBytes 1 point2 points  (5 children)

It was, but because it wasn't performed by a physician, it doesn't count, as it cannot technically be verified.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 4 points5 points  (2 children)

How do you artificially inseminate without a physician?

[–]StrokeGameHusky 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Got it. I thought this was the case before I read the comments.

[–]JediBytes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, yeah.

Reddit comments can be a wee bit confusing sometimes.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was in kansas and the case had a lot of political motivations. My guess is the hope is to stop artifical insemination thereby stopping gays from having children. Kansas is weird.

[–]JanLul 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That seems to be the law in many different countries: you have sex with the woman, you're liable for child support. If you do artificial insemination, you're good.

Dude didn't know the law and got screwed because of it.

[–]StrokeGameHusky 12 points13 points  (0 children)

A woman life: have rich guy's baby.


The end.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Lets adopt a child, find its mother (who gave it away probably cause she was too poor to be a mother) and make her pay child support.

[–]RP_Vergil 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You mean the birth father to the adopted child. You can run, but you can't hide from Child support as long.... wtf?

[–]tedted8888 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Who jizzes in a cup and hands it to a lady so she can impregnate herself. If your going to do this sign paperwork at the clinic. I'm baffled :/

[–]Joshthathipsterkid 15 points16 points  (1 child)

The man in question had signed a contract. It was invalidated.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not at the clinic from the sound of it.

[–]Chaohinon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A man who's been mislead to believe everything would be ok, and that women can be trusted. Yeah he was dumb, but that's the tunnel vision a lot of us have to live with. A never ending prisoner's dilemma that you're not allowed to call by its proper name.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Slow your horses, fellas.

Kansas law, which says a licensed physician must be involved in an artificial insemination process

attempt at artificial insemination costs about $3,000

This isn't a "fuck men" thing, this is a "healthcare wants its money and probably bankrolls the judge" thing.

It's the same reason a lot of harmless antibiotics / things that should be OTC require a $200 doc visit for.

Literally everything in the U.S. is aimed at:

  • Stalling our plummeting birth rates
  • Maximizing consumerism spending

The fact that women, on average, have zero self control & ergo are great consumers is very widely known. We're not getting fucked because "blah Feminism men are powerless" - we are getting fucked because men at the top like their population single, desperate and psychologically unhealthy as that results in higher spending / GDP / stock revenue.

Healthy families and couples don't spend as much and that, to those with money, is a scary notion.

[–]diamondscribe 6 points6 points [recovered]

This makes me want to rip my shirt in public and scream... guys, how can we change this?

I'm ready to start educating myself; Any suggestions on reading materials, court cases to study, etc?

I have a son in a not-nearly-as-bad circumstance, but one in which I must learn to protect myself and him all the same.

I've been a causal viewer of RedPill and follower of this story since it broke, but having now seen the ruling over the sperm doner to pay child support? This takes the cake.

[–]Brave_Horatius 6 points7 points  (7 children)

We're not here to change the world, just to enjoy the slide into the abyss.

[–]DuncanMonroe 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Says TRP. That's not what we are, it doesn't define us. I disagree with a lot of TRP principles, and "enjoy the decline" is one of them. What kind of men are we if we give up just because the battle looks unwinnable? "Change is way too hard, enjoy the decline". What? Of course, actual social change requires everything to fall into place. The moment has to be right, the mood has to be just so, and the hinge of fate needs to turn the right way at the right time, which is often up to chance.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Of course, actual social change requires everything to fall into place.

There is no political or social solution. The iceberg was women's suffrage: after that point, the conclusion was inevitable and irreversible. Any potential solution has to be balanced against women's 55% control of suffrage (while only contributing a vast minority of the taxes to run government and none of the conscription).

So what are actual solutions? Revolt, Expat, or Turtle. Again, there is no solution within the system so you need to either overthrow the system (revolt), escape the system (expat), or wait for the system to collapse itself (turtle).

So, yes: Enjoy the decline; prepare for the bottom.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The principle that is behind "Enjoy the Decline" is a key principle. It's basically, "Don't try and change things you can't control". You can control yourself and that's about it. So, why should you try and fight the system?

[–]Ailer 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm with you on this one, and have some suggestions in reply to your original "how can we change this?"

First off, individual sacrifice? Bad idea. Guys have lit themselves and burned to death on the steps of family courts and had it black balled from the media. If anything is going to happen, it will happen because of a group. For example, with regards to the sperm case: what if the "cup" a nurse received had multiple mens sperm in it, instead of a lone donor? Sperm banks are private institutions: it is fully within their right to do this in an effort to protect their clients.

Second. Single objectives. The moment you start a "movement" like the MRAs or Feminists, it's as good as done. Million man marches work. Stupid never-ending protests don't; they're just a way to gain power by spreading discontent. Starting and managing a chain of sperm banks would be a good example of a "single objective".

Third. Vote. Encourage every guy you know to vote. Tell him his girlfriend is more likely to vote then he is, and her god awful ideas will become law, because all the other women voting will vote exactly the same as her. If men can't unseat women as the primary voters in elections, the system will always be bent in their favour.

There are probably plenty of others, but I've got to run.

[–]well-ok-then 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Vote for WHO? I've never seen a candidate not pandering to the females in all situations. Even when discussing abortion rights - all about what feels best for the women who might vote for that politician.

[–]Ailer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If enough men are voting, what men want will show up on the politicians docket. It literally doesn't matter who you vote for. So long as men start voting in numbers greater then women, or vote as a bloc with greater consistency, Men will get what they want. If every man entered a "no confidence" (empty) vote, there'd be a lot of questions. Even if they all just voted third party, Men would likely cause a vote split, and the third party candidates would end up winning. As I said in my original post: individual actions aren't really in the cards. You have to organize with your friends at the very least.

Some of the most important votes however, are those made while participating as part of a jury. Politicians can make abortion legal or illegal all they want: if a jury votes the opposite direction, the law will functionally disappear until it is remade and reworded. Jury nullification is a very interesting topic in and of itself, and in my country the only reason abortions are legal in the first place is because a jury nullified an anti-abortion law. Interestingly, by making a pro-abortion law since, the government has actually made abortion nullifiable in the court system. If someone were to sue a doctor for not providing abortions anyway.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TRP helps people recognize & navigate social dynamics for whatever end they see fit: Plates, LTR, MGTOW, etc.

People who want to "enjoy the slide into the abyss" piss me off, this mindset leads back to caves. No reddit or other technology, no comfy distance from natural selection, no security of any kind. Do you really want that, motherfucker?

Live in a war zone or wilderness of the not-so-hospitable variety to help you reconsider.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Societal change comes by making rich people worry about their riches. If you think of a plan, let us know. Otherwise, look for a less feminist country and emigrate.

[–]JoshtheAspie 1 points1 points [recovered]

Rule 1 in improving a civilization you are a part of: Improve yourself.

Become physically fit. This will pay both health and social dividends, and generally make everything else easier.

Become generally well read. In particular study scripture if you have faith. Also read the works of shakespere, and major philosophers, and learn statistics (so that you can spot a BS study when you read a summary of it, if nothing else). There's a manosphere regular who has compiled a list of great books for men, so I'll decline to reinvent the wheel. http://thesoulisnotasmithy.blogspot.com/p/great-books-for-men.html

Find ways to improve your quality of life, and that of your son, without increasing your tax burden, or making it easier to impute income on yourself or your son.

Remove anything from your life that does not provide utility (including health or education), or beauty for yourself or those that you care about.

Only when you have removed the stumbling blocks you have placed in your own life, and that of your family, will you be ready to begin removing stumbling blocks from society. And when you get there, you'll probably find that you've already helped to remove a few in the process.

Of course this is a lot of hard work, and also probably not the glorious change you want to see in a short time frame. But it's the important work that needs to be done.

[–]GoingInHam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This makes me want to puke in the sink

[–]NiceTryDisaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't yet, but I'm not donating sperm ever in future after reading that.

[–]Black-Pill 34 points35 points  (5 children)

There have been actual cases where a sperm donor has been tracked down and forced into child support payments.

[–]jeffwingersballs 22 points23 points  (3 children)

The legal case made for that was because it didn't go through the sperm bank. It was handled independently. I don't think it would apply here.

[–]Black-Pill 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Its only a matter of time.... when the need (greed) is great enough for women try to exploit this as a resource then I am sure it will be pursued

[–]rpscrote 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Legal precedent is a series of steps. Push a little farther each time. Going after a sperm donor at a clinic? Absurd. But wait -- we have precedent you can get a sperm donor that's not doctor assisted. Honorable Appeals Court Judges, why does it matter if there's a doctor there? The child is born only due to this man who has always been subject to upkeeping his offspring since time immemorial. Look at this poor woman and child!

And then its any sperm donor.

The foots already in the door

[–]ImXtraSalty 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It's sad that this is a real possibility.

[–]1jb_trp 23 points24 points  (2 children)

It's all male disposability. The average man is just a utility for women and society to use as they see fit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think through evolutionary processes, this has always been the case. Man dies in battle? No big deal. Woman dies? No children to carry on the genes.

[–]_eskimo_brothers_ 25 points26 points  (1 child)

I laughed, then cried man tears for that poor soul.

[–]SunshineBlotters 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This actually happened. The ruling was because "they didnt find a sperm donor. They had a guy jizz in a cup for em without going through the system"

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The only way the sperm donor is off the hook is if the sperm donation was handled by a medically licensed fertility doctor. If it wasn't and it was a turkey baster procedure then he's screwed by family court.

If you are going to donate sperm to some lesbian couple or any couple or whatever make sure everything you do is above board because the law will protect you if you follow the proper steps and procedures. If you don't the law will fuck you in the ass with a spiked baseball bat.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Trouble is, laws have a way of being changed retroactively. Look what happened with no fault divorce. It didn't just change the rules for new marriages after that date, but existing ones too. So I don't trust laws that protect men from women, they are subject to the whims of white knights.

[–]DaphneDK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Denmark has an ..emm flourishing export of sperm, because it is one of a diminishing number of countries which allow anonymous donations. Others where there is not anonymous donations it is not possible to meet demand. Also because Viking Stronk!

[–]zapatosdemadera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

depending on the State and conditions, they parental rights and responsibilities of sperm donor may have been waived.

[–]BannedBandit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you really think this kind of thing isn't accounted for legally when you donate sperm? I can't see this happening.

[–]darkstout 166 points167 points  (12 children)

“I’m not a lesbian,” Johnson said. “But Brittney is different.”

Yeah, Brittney is different because she has money and resources, i.e., Brittney is a beta bucks dressed up as a lesbian! How many women have married men they were not sexually attracted to but had wealth? MILLIONS.

[–]skyee_everson 48 points48 points [recovered]

It's a well known rumor (if you followed college athletics), that Brittany could go by "Bart". At some point she allegedly said something along the lines of "I don't take pipe, I lay pipe". Aka she has a shlong. Brings the straight wife comment more into context.

Because of this I expect she might be abused by the court system.

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[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

She doesn't. And I can't find a polite way to put this, but she's a dyke. She likes taking the dominate role over women in relationships. What would be considered a "mans" role in straight relationships.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She's basically a man. There is a reason Baylor's women's team was so good.

[–]Isaiah4verse1 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Lmfao female beta bucks.

The future is here!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I hope for one this woman gets divorce raped and destroyed. Maybe even to the point that she commits suicide because even one woman dying will surely raise awareness about this divorce scam run by other women.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (3 children)

We had Robin Williams which could have been a huge message to the public... but the divorce and alimony issue being a large part of his reason for suicide completely went over everyone's head.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

one woman dying will surely raise awareness

A woman dying will help raise awareness. Men can die in the thousands. No one cares.

[–]SinisterSwindler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucked up society we live in.

[–]PeteMullersKeyboard -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hoping that someone dies is not a useful or productive use of your time, or anyone else's.

[–]Assassin1476 69 points70 points  (37 children)

I'll be like Michael Jackson eating popcorn in Thriller, excited to see how this one plays out as well. Either they're going to throw it out, reduce the amount, or we watch as this Brittney Griner crumbles into ultra girl mode and tries to hamster why this is unfair, she's taken advantage of and blah, blah blah.

This is a perfect example of why I can talk to true lesbians about the nature of women as I would a guy and they never get offended; they know how bullshit women are and can be because they have to deal with them the exact same way a guy would.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (34 children)

Lesbians must have it worse than white kight betas because their dating pools is far far smaller. It's a suprise we don't see much more information from them here.

[–]Assassin1476 67 points68 points  (27 children)

The lesbians I have talked too actually do pretty well for themselves in terms of dating and getting chicks, way more so than white knights and complete beta guys. The reason why they do better than white knight betas is they end up developing the mind set of a alpha guy while still having the hamstering mentality of a normal chick; a very deadly combination.

Seriously you would think they were sociopaths by talking to them and watching them work their magic in real time because they have no problem being on some dark triad shit in order to get what they want from women. They will lie, deceive, manipulate, be aggressive-aggressive and passive aggressive, play the emotional victim card, use physical violence, underhanded mental tactics and all sorts of other dirty shit to get what they want. Some butch lesbians are like the worst aspects of an overly aggressive male with the emotional T-Rex hamstering of a female combined into one.

Think of some of those women from that Netflix show "Orange Is The New Black". If you ever seen that show, you will know exactly what I am talking about.

[–]the_red_scimitar 37 points38 points  (11 children)

I dated a pansexual chick who had identified as, and lived as, a lesbian for 7 years, within the lesbian community of a major city.

When she discovered she was also attracted to men, and fucked one, she told a lesbian friend.

She was ostracized. Her sexual preference is apparently considered awful among serious lesbians, and they treated her like a homosexual man would be in the 50's.

Interesting, considering the rhetoric from that camp, eh? They are bullshitters and assholes like most people.

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[–]ThrowyMcGruder 9 points10 points  (1 child)

No, it's pan as in the Spanish for bread.

The girl liked getting sandwiched.

[–]the_red_scimitar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you ever seen a whisk? Say no more...

[–]NightGod 11 points12 points  (2 children)

The non gold-star lesbians have it rough in that community, though they can usually get by as long as it happened in their youth. Bisexuals have ten times worse. They're ostracized by the ostracized.

[–]Assassin1476 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Lesbians treat the shit like it's a street gang. If you're part of the gang, then you must always be apart of the gang in all view points, activities, actions, beliefs and ideologies even if you don't fully support them all yourself or possibly have a difference in opinion. If you reveal yourself to be a pretender (Bi-Sexual) or a full on lesbian that sleeps with a male then you're an absolute traitor to the gang and punishment shall be dealt out swiftly, without mercy!

So at the end of the fucking day, women...no matter how butch, bi or feminine will still will be women who do women shit! No different than what you would see in your typical high school with the Mean Girls.

[–]the_red_scimitar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Which is about as stupid as it gets, but hey... look whom we're talking about.

[–]muyuu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It makes their deep insecurities surface.

[–]1DRMMR76 2 points3 points  (2 children)

That's because at the core of every lesbian is either a desire to be edgy, or deep seated anger at men. There are no real lesbians. The ones who appear to be the real life-long dykes just have a very very deep anger or other issue with men.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Studies have shown that female sexuality is very fluid and easily influenced by their environment. They can go from straight to lesbian and back again in a very short period of time and not feel any jarring by doing so.

[–]SextonHardcastle11 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Dumbest thing I've ever read on Reddit. Congratulations!!

[–]king_of_red_alphas 11 points12 points  (11 children)

Great point. I've often wondered if this is another reason you find so many "lesbians" as strippers / sex workers. Because they are already somewhat sociopathic and cold hearted to begin with and have an easy time with the "it's just a hole" mentality. They are basically completely about their "hustle" just like an alpha drug dealer would be.

[–]Assassin1476 12 points13 points  (10 children)

I've never seen any strippers or sex workers that were complete lesbians; not 100% hardcore lesbians anyway. People with sociopathic behavior usually have a very amoral behavior towards other people but they themselves are extremely hypocritical to how people treat them. They are usually the epitome of "Have my cake and eat it too".

I don't care what any stripper or porn says, no woman is completely 100% fine with giving pussy away for money or in that fashion. A lot of them develop a super gangster like attitude because of the nature of what they're doing but deep down, they're miserable and angry as shit. These type of women can be completely about their hustle but being a drug dealer and being a stripper/sex worker are way too different, especially for women because it's not in their nature to want to go out and fuck a bunch of different guys like how men want to go out and fuck different women. That's why strippers/ sex workers, whether straight or lesbian have drug, alcoholic and mental problems.

[–]the_red_scimitar 19 points20 points  (6 children)

The whole "women aren't built for promiscuity" is such utter crap. Read the book "Sperm Wars", written by an actual evolutionary biologist. Evolutionary biology is oft cited as a core rationale for RP canon.

Women are just as, if not more, made for non-monogamy than men are. In fact, both men's penises and women's vagina have some very interesting adaptations that are functionally explained as competition amongst different men's sperm in the same vaginal canal.

Here's one: only about 10% of sperm are normal enough to swim to and inseminate an egg. What are the other 90% of little soldiers for? Exactly that: soldiering. They fight, delay, and kill other men's sperm. And that other man also has 90% of his sperm fighting. The only evolutionary reason that has made sense is that it is expected that a man's sperm will encounter other men's sperm in the vagina. And that would have to have been a rather common thing.

You can easily find standard medical data claiming that up to 90% of sperm is "misshapen", with various theories as to why. And then this:

"As most men know by now, sperm counts have been plummeting for the past 50 years. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), just five to 15 percent of human sperm today qualifies as "normal," and is only found in men who are young and healthy. In contrast, over 90 percent of sperm produced by a ram, bull, or common lab rat are considered viable. "

All this stuff about "women are made for monogamy, men for non-monogamy" is absolute and utter crap. They can have and enjoy far more sex than most men. That is apparently the result of evolution.

[–]1aguy01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right. Monogamy actually IS a social construct designed to form cohesive societies. When female sexuality is unrestrained, hypergamy causes the 80/20 dynamic of sex distribution, where the majority of guys barely get any pussy. This leaves them unmotivated, whereas a man motivated by having a family and wife will produce more earnestly than a guy considering suicide. This is why the Bolsheviks sought to destroy marriage and the family unit in competitive nations. It's the backbone of society.

[–]SilentForTooLong 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Man, this needs to be in the fucking sidebar!

Make a new post about this. It seriously needs to be more understood here.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It shouldn't be in the sidebar, because it's bad science and has been widely debunked in the scientific community (here, for example). See the low-star Amazon reviews of the book for many more counter-arguments with references to studies.

[–]the_red_scimitar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It hasn't been "debunked" - you need to look that up. It has been argued with, and counter-theories provided. And none of them - including this one - has anything going for it but "preponderance of evidence". Evolutionary biology is mostly, by its nature, unprovable, by which I mean all it is is speculation as to the evolutionary rationale for what ever phenomena of behavior can be observed now. It is reverse-engineering guesswork. All of it.

So, on that basis, there is no evolutionary biology. You can't directly observe the behaviors and their changes over time as evolution occurs, only the evidence left behind of such behaviors - if any.

So if you want that viewpoint, just cancel all evolutionary biology other than historical genetic research.

[–]SilentForTooLong -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

There should still be something about how women are super horny, and like sex far more than men.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey. I never said the whole "I'm getting my hustle on" attitude wasn't hamstering. It is. But many lesbians in sex work have come to see men much like a dealer sees his "custies" - people that are so weak willed and dehumanized that they deserve to get ripped off. They see their lesbian friends as their in-group who are above being such chumps.

[–]nages21 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They're angry and miserable because society tells them to be that way, not because they truly feel that way. It shames women for promiscuity and discourages slutty behavior while shamelessly selling them sex everywhere. I guarantee you that if you go to foreign countries where prostitution is legal, the mind of the women are different. They are okay with giving pussy away for money, because the people around them won't make them feel like total shit for it.

[–]Assassin1476 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't even argue against that point. Prostitutes in the U.S and prostitutes in other countries are always said to be completely different in the way they act and their mentality in what they do. We really do slut shame here in and make sex such a big deal where as countries like Brazil, Thailand and Denmark have such a relaxed and more accepted attitudes towards promiscuous women and prostitution.

[–]MakeTheSexyTalk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Holy shit you've just described a former co-worker of mine perfectly. Her favorite was banging "straight" girls.

[–]SlappaDaBayssMon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know a man who was born a woman, and he is constantly drowning in pussy. Full disclosure too, he doesn't hide the fact he was born a woman.

[–]diamondscribe 0 points0 points [recovered]

What's the difference of Black knight and White knight? Is there a posting which explains all the terminology of RedPill?

[–]RCFlyboy[S] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Short answer, a black knight uses women's own rules against them. For instance, a black knight might make a sexual harassment complaint against a woman who comes on to him at work.

[–]reigorius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd coin the term Red Knight if I could.

[–]Chaohinon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's funny that lesbians often get painted as "man haters" and the like. The ones I've know we're just like you described; not necessarily outright misogynists, but definitely weary of other women's shit. Hell, even a lot of gay dudes are similar, since they get to see a woman's reality from the perspective another woman would, as opposed to a straight male "friend".

[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (3 children)

All of this is perfectly coherent with the theory that the woman marries the wallet/social status and not the man.

[–]the_red_scimitar 20 points21 points  (2 children)

If anything, it gives credence to "men are unnecessary". If women generally realize they can victimize other WOMEN (whom generally they despise anyway), there could be a massive, sudden rise in female "bisexual" or "lesbian" populations.

[–]lugubriusTRP 5 points6 points  (0 children)

when japan releases personalised waifu sexbots this will probably be the outcome

[–]Isaiah4verse1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I am hoping for this. Lesbians are great! For every lesbian woman there are more than a few men spared the bullshit and a few beta lives spared. Women and women deserve each other. Lol.

[–]RCFlyboy[S] 49 points50 points  (1 child)

I actually wouldn't be surprised if it turns out the "sperm donor" is the ex-boyfriend she was cheating with.

[–]mrmeyhemn 48 points49 points  (1 child)


now that that's out of my system, fuck this is brilliant. THIS is exactly why big government wanted to legalize gay marriage. because marriage is a fucking slavery trap and they were missing out on all that revenue.

[–]2Overkillengine 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Easier and more profitable in the short term than fixing marriage by treating it like any other financial joint venture.

[–]RPthrowaway123 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Now that women are suffering from these laws we might see some actual change in them.

[–]ItsCold_ItsCold 13 points14 points  (1 child)

No, they'll make it a strictly women's/LBGTQ issue.

[–]RPthrowaway123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well we have the power to influence that conversation, since it was a men's problem first. It's super easy to be cynical about this stuff but here we might have an opportunity to change a conversation, if only a little.

[–]NidStyles 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I literally just LOL'd at this.

This one should be stickied as an example of hypergamy giving no fuck's.

[–]Joshthathipsterkid 6 points7 points  (1 child)

And boys will laugh at girls when they're not funny.

[–]aa223 20 points21 points  (7 children)

I think this is the best thing ever read:

Both women were suspended seven games by the WNBA following their arrests that stemmed from a fight in their Arizona home on April 22.

How are men the only ones who domestically abuse others?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (6 children)

I need a source, if someone can help, but I actually heard somewhere that domestic abuse is pretty rampant amongst lesbian couples.

[–]MazeMouse 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Has to be because both parties still behave like they have the female privilege.

[–]Isaiah4verse1 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This. There's no man there who cannot fight back because patriarchy.

[–]aa223 5 points6 points  (2 children)

[–]well-ok-then 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If the cops show up and there's no man there, how do they know who to arrest?

[–]aa223 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Arrest the more masculine looking girl.

[–]Schrodingersdawg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obesity is high as fuck too lol

[–]digghead 36 points37 points  (1 child)

LOL, I predicted that this kind of shit would happen when gay marriage was legalised.

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

I wanted this shit to happen when gay marriage got legalized.

[–]changshuaidiao 34 points35 points  (3 children)

I don't think women are even attracted to men. I think they just like free shit and pregnancy.

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (1 child)

girls dont like boys girls like cars and money

[–]the_red_scimitar 15 points16 points  (0 children)

No, some women are terrifically attracted to men and only men. But in my experience, most have a pretty wide bisexual streak, whether they act on it or not.

[–]wildrobbie87 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This story - upholding TRP theories everywhere...

[–]Gnometard 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Same sex marriage is probably going to be one of the best things for men who decide to get married (and probably end up divorced)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If this happens a few more times we might just get enough political pressure to fix marriage laws

[–]SuperSlavisWife 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"and/or has the most money is going to be treated as the "oppressor" and forced to pony up for the more feminine partner"

In theory, this was the idea of child support and alimony. Leaving aside rights and wrongs and whether it is clear cut, the idea was that if someone agreed to have a child and then changed their mind, they were still financially liable for their past decision. Alimony I personally believe has no place in the modern world, but, again, the idea of it was that if someone was out of work too long due to taking on the caregiving and supportive role, they may need help until they are financially stable again.

However much it's abused, the person with the most money paying is actually the basic concept. If the justice system wants to play fair, they will have to take child support and alimony from the wealthiest ex-partner regardless of gender.

But that opens other questions:

In a male homosexual couple, do the payers pay on average as much as a divorced heterosexual man? Do the payees receive on average as much as a divorced heterosexual woman?

In a female homosexual couple, do the payers pay on average as much as a divorced heterosexual man? Do the payees receive on average as much as a divorced heterosexual woman?

Is there a bias against masculine homosexuals and towards feminine homosexuals in terms of child custody awards?

When both parties work and have similar net worths, is there a bias against masculine or feminine homosexuals?

The theory (again, however injust) is that the party with the most money supports the party with the least money and that nobody should be allowed to opt-out of childcare once they have already committed to it. But we all know the reality doesn't exactly play out that way. So what happens when we're looking at a couple that doesn't fall into the standard gender divide? Does the legal system suddenly become more just, or does it show how awfully misapplied it actually is?

[–]tedted8888 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But the courts were supposed to divorce rape both the gay men to pay for the lesbian couples. I'm confused now :/

[–]SComm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love it when they eat their own.

[–]Joshthathipsterkid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And now I've seen everything.....

[–]Cheaptrix5150 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TIL WNBA players can make > 20k/month.

[–]Mature_Student 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I recently read a quote about same sex marriage, something along the lines of "Divorce settlements will change for ever once women find out what it's like to lose half your shit to a gold-digging bitch". Truer words never spoken.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

those hamsterisms are incredible even going so far as to say that as a straight woman she was pressured in to the marriage and relationship this is out of control

[–]Squeezymypenisy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read the article listed by the second reply comment. Its politically motivated. The sperm donor being sued.

[–]Isaiah4verse1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No wonder bitches are getting scared. Because equality is finally here.

[–]Burner1701 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If they are legally married you should drop the inverted commas unless you are really old and Christian.

[–]gnt_1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Whoa, hold on there. The lady on TV said homosexual couples never divorce...

[–]6of1halfdozenofother 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, when they couldn't get married they never divorced.

[–]-Quotidian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking terrifying. I mean, it was fucking stupid of him to send semen to strangers after reading an ad, but Jesus Christ what a mess. Know your rights, and know which rights a judge can overrule if they feeeeeeeel like it. Holy fuck.

[–]PeteMullersKeyboard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much do you want to bet that the WNBA girl wears the pants in that relationship? That would make this just perfect.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I pray (ha) that gay marriage will lead to exposure of the hypocrisy of marriage laws.

A big problem will be the influx of female lawyers though. Mine was a wannabe SJW in law school. Complete retard socially and emotionally, but getting ready to save the world, particularly the dark skins as part of the white savior complex being from the country and moving to the city.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]BIGBIGBIGMEANIE -3 points-2 points  (12 children)

Bulldyke bitch deserves it.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (10 children)

i really find lesbians extremely unpleasant people

[–]BIGBIGBIGMEANIE 0 points1 point  (9 children)

I do too. And most of them are overweight and a full list of psychological issues. But that's homosexuals in general.

[–]1aguy01 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Idk honestly I think gay dudes have it made. Aside from the guy's struggling with tranny issues they seem super happy and healthy. Lesbians are, of course, statistically the most obese group of people in the world.

[–]BIGBIGBIGMEANIE -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I think gay dudes are gross. What kind of faggot doesn't want pussy? Faggots, of course. Then they enjoy putting their dicks where poop comes out, which is even more perverted. Then they purposely change their voice to sound more feminine. I mean, how is any of that natural? And yes, I don't perform anal sex with my wife. I think men who do with women have homosexual tendencies and have a small dick.

[–]SilentForTooLong 2 points3 points  (6 children)

You should take a trip to the homosexual district of Los Angeles sometime then...every gay guy there has a smoking, ripped body.

[–]crosenblum 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Just out of curiousity, is that a cultural reference to the ancient greeks? Being gay somehow made them more ripped? Or something else, just curious.

[–]SilentForTooLong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where are you seeing a reference to the Greeks?

[–]dear_glob_why 0 points1 point  (2 children)

As a Los Angelino, what's the "Gay District?"

[–]SilentForTooLong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Santa Monica Blvd between Doheney and Fairfax.

[–]neptronix -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Cue Ron Paul meme of him saying: "It's happening!!"

[–]SpaceTimeinFlux 0 points1 point  (1 child)

as yous requested massa!


[–]nages21 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Divorce rape: for them, by them, now destroys them.