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Men's RightsMajor bank gives free money to female employees to correct the gender wage gap - Chaos ensues (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Ketaminewarrior

Social Justice Warriors in the banks marketing department hijacks the company to push their stupid agenda through a slick advertising campaign. Creates a fancy (and retarded) video in which they announce that they are giving all their female employees an extra $500 into their superannuation (same as 401k) to correct for the "disadvantage" that women have in the workforce.

Customers won't buy it and call them out on their facebook page. Hilarious!

https://www.facebook.com/ANZAustralia?fref=photo


[–]One_friendship_plz 88 points89 points  (57 children)

You know, I'm actually starting to be genuinely concerned about this issue. What happens if we end up with a feminist leader?

[–]CptDefB 65 points66 points  (16 children)

Now you begin to see the bigger picture...

Feminism/Social Justice, is actually a serious problem. So is currency, government, law, education, medicine... this even affects tech. Mythbusters can't do an RFID episode because one phone call with enough clout (credit card company lawyers) was enough to kill the episode? Hmm.

What's disheartening is that I don't even hope for a "better" sort of future civilization taking over/growing out of what this trainwrecks into. History has shown that it just doesn't magically happen. Especially not when the chains of power that marionette us all are now global, as they've never been in our records.

This is going to get ugly, eventually. What happens when our currencies hyperinflate, or we experience Greece style meltdowns in North America? Feral. Maybe not some post apocalyptic madness, but the pendulum is STILL going in this direction. The amount of force when it finally tips back the other way...

The more people we have being inculcated and institutionalized into nonsense narratives about the world, the less people we have to... fight whatever the hell this is, I guess, and change our countries, lives, connections, perceptions of reality, for the better. Any of you work 50+h a week? You agree this is probably not natural or even good, for us, yes? Then why? It doesn't have to be like this at all. But we cheer each other on and encourage each other to work more. Nuts. Most things in reality are pretty much the exact opposite of what they should be.

[–]Redasshole 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Humanity needs to go into a dark age for a few hundred years and then reflect on what happened.

[–]1Zackcid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm certainly not one to bash on individuals going through short periods of depression in their lives. I've personally always took away so much from these episodes and typically come out stronger than I was before.

[–]CptDefB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Dark Ages weren't actually dark... just saying. Yes, stranglehold of the Catholic Church, but people got on pretty well, invented shit we still use, made art we still appreciate, etc.

You can youtube this for people more educated than myself to explain it to you.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (10 children)

Women have NEVER ran a society before. There's a number of reasons for it. They are the sex that, if you look at them it is apparent, are for child-rearing and child-birthing, that is all. They are far too solipsistic to run a civilization. Nothing can be done for the "greater good" nothing exists outside of their minds. Notice how everything feminism talks about 100% benefits women. Of course it's disguised as "for everyone", yet in over 100 years it's never done a fucking thing for men.

Why does anyone think this is a good idea to pander to them? And you're right, what the fuck is gonna crop up after the US falls from this dumb shit? China? That doesn't seem like a fun concept. You can't criticize the government, cameras on every street corner. That's exactly where we're headed.

[–]fullhalf 14 points15 points  (8 children)

this is why there is way in fucking hell i'm voting for a female president. i can't even imagine the crazy shit that would be made into law. fuck hillary and elizabeth warren.

[–]1grubek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You already have a feminist leader.

The shit govs are doing right now would be unthinkable years ago, but feminists have normalized it through propaganda.

[–]Discomposure 22 points23 points  (29 children)

we officially become the laughing stock of the world and Russia comes and takes over. The way society is heading right now (US, EU ect..) I for one welcome our new Russian overlords.

[–]henry-jest 36 points37 points  (3 children)

The way society is heading right now (US, EU ect..) I for one welcome our new Russian overlords.

Eastern European here. Trust me you would not. Aside gigantic corruption and lack of freedom (I think 10 times bigger problem than in US), Russian society is way more damaged than western. Alcoholism is rampant and it is playing major role in Russia population decline..


"A study by Russian, British and French researchers published in The Lancet scrutinized deaths between 1990 and 2001 of residents of three Siberian industrial towns with typical mortality rates and determined that 52% of deaths of people between the ages of 15 and 54 were the result of alcohol abuse.[14] Lead researcher Professor David Zaridze estimated that the increase in alcohol consumption since 1987 has caused an additional three million deaths nationwide.[14] In 2007, Gennadi Onishenko, the country's chief public health official, voiced his concern over the nearly threefold rise in alcohol consumption over the past 16 years; one in eight deaths was attributed to alcohol-related diseases, playing a major role in Russia's population decline.[11] Men are particularly hard hit; according to a U.N. National Human Development Report, Russian males born in 2006 had a life expectancy of just over 60 years, 17 fewer than western Europeans, while Russian females could expect to live thirteen years longer than their male counterparts.[15]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_consumption_in_Russia#Demographic

[–]csehszlovakze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. We need to find our own way, as both the western and the eastern have failed.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've read that some populations are genetically prone to alcohol addiction. This is probably a factor.

[–]redpillersinparis 10 points11 points  (7 children)

You say that because you didn't live in Russia and you don't know how good you have it.

[–]bluedrygrass 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Absolutely. Russia is still trying to recover from the damages communism did, and will have to do so for decades still.

[–]redpillersinparis 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Mate, people in western countries really are spoiled... if they woud LIVE and work in a third-world country as a native of said country, they would see that western countries are like heaven on earth in comparison. I'm not talking about visiting or working in an undeveloped country as a white guy/girl getting treated like semi-royalty, I'm talking about living, working and being treated as a native.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I'm not talking about visiting or working in an undeveloped country as a white guy/girl getting treated like semi-royalty, I'm talking about living, working and being treated as a native.

This happens? I'd love to hear stories/examples.

Because in white countries all the establishment does is talk whites down.

[–]redpillersinparis 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Haven't you read any stories about white guys going to Thailand? You'll find some here.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Not really. In fact I've heard thais think very lowly of white people, who they see as nothing but walking ATMs that they will manipulate to extract maximum money from. That "royalty" at least in the sense of Thailand, seems to be nothing more than a gambit to separate a westerner from his money, who compared to the average thai, is relatively rich.

I wouldn't really call that respect. Respect is when they like you/your culture. Pretending to like you to rape your bank account is BS IMO.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 8 points9 points  (10 children)

You really need to take off the rose colored lenses. Or you are hust another russiophile with a boner for things russian.

[–]redpillersinparis 8 points9 points  (8 children)

He also probably thinks that the US is the same as a "third world country".

These guys don't understand how much better the west is compared to most of the world.

[–]csehszlovakze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most people can't do better than binary thinking. As someone in Center Europe I realized that neither the USA nor Russia will be good as "overlord", we need to find our own voice.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a someone who knows what is Russia, I can say that you don't need to worry about that.

AFAICS, More likely that all those "opressed" and "minorities" in the West will gain more and more influence and someday will just expel every "opressor" from their countries.

[–]bluedrygrass 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Russia isn't taking over anyone. They have a lot of internal problems, and if aynthing they're too busy not getting wiped out by America.

China, on the other hand, will be world's superpower in few years, and could already nuke the rest of world.

But it's not gonna happen in the short future. Hillary as president will just continue Obama's path, the brainwashing and control over the population will continue, the richs will be richer and the poor poorer, and more abundant.

Nothing will change, really.

[–]Limekill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing will change, really.

I think we have gone past a tipping point in terms of change - the corporations/ rich are too powerful currently and most people are sheep.

Well until robotics come along, then things WILL change.

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[–]Limekill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

all of these candidates are fucking horrible.

I laugh when people knock Hillary - because you are correct - ALL the candidates are horrible. Who gives a fuck she is a women... there will be no fucking change anyway - because the corporations control everything. You could put a retarded monkey that threw feces at everyone in as US President and the Government would continue to run absolutely fine (as it always has, apart from a few BS "shutdowns" - oh shit we closed down a park!!!! :/ ). The system has to change.

[–]forscienceyeah 153 points153 points [recovered]

For fucks sake, women CHOOSE to have kids. They CHOOSE not to work longer hours for more years. How is this a disadvantage to them if they chose this? If a man chose to take more time off work to look after their kids, ANZ won't top of their super, hmm? Fucks sake.

Westpac (also its wealth arm BT) and now ANZ are verging on feminist extremism now.. If the largest and most popular bank, CBA goes down this way its fucked.

[–]fullhalf 83 points84 points  (2 children)

If a man chose to take more time off work to look after their kids

men can't really choose this because society judges men based on his accomplishments. that's why men are driven to work so hard because that's the only way he can get laid and get respect. if feminists really want to even the game, they should start fucking loser guys and change the culture. if guys can get laid without working too hard, he wouldn't bother then both men and women would be equal.

so these dumb bitches cry about losing to men then turn around and try to fuck the highest order of men they can and thereby, driving up the competition amongst them. meanwhile, a woman's main judgement is how she looks. both men and women know this is true but women are in denial about it.

[–]fuckin_retard 36 points36 points [recovered]

Comments like this are why I keep coming back to this sub. It seems like common sense to me, but nobody I know talks about things like this in such a frank manner. Men have to work their ass off to accomplish things in order to increase their value to women. Women are not saddled with this burden. So much of what drives us can be boiled down to getting pussy - I won't claim that everything is about sex, but it is a MASSIVE motivating factor for us men. Women fought for the opportunity to join in the rat race like us, but now that they're in it, they're experiencing record levels of unhappiness, because a good career just doesn't reap the same rewards for them as it does for men. If I were a woman, I would definitely strive for a career, but I would place a massive importance on being fit as fuck, marrying a high value man, and being his biggest supporter and cheerleader. Giving him endless affection and support, pushing him towards his ideal self.

My ex-girlfriend is absolutely crushing it in the corporate world, but she texts me every now and then about how miserable she is, about how she needs me in her life, and how she is afraid of being alone for the rest of her life, and how work isn't making her happy.

[–]NidStyles 17 points18 points  (8 children)

Both of those banks are highly under-capitalized. So if they go down, it's because of their poor management.

[–]bustanutmeow 9 points10 points  (7 children)

Could you explain that a bit more for the financially special of us please. The under cap part. Cheers

[–]generic_name 8 points8 points [recovered]

It's kind of hard to explain in a short post on mobile. Banks lend out money based on their deposits. But they only keep a certain amount of capital free and available to pay back those deposits. Capital (as it relates to capital ratios) can be lots of things like tbills, but in general let's call it cash. Banks are expected to have a certain amount of capital on hand at all times, I think teir 1 is 4%. A bank that's undercapitalized doesn't have enough cash free to pay their depositors if a bunch all came at once demanding their deposits back.

You've heard the term "run on the bank"? That occurs when a large number of depositors all want them money back at the same time. And in general most banks will not have enough cash to satisfy that demand. It's why the fdic was created in the U.S.

[–]NidStyles 6 points7 points  (4 children)

All of the Australian banks are under the recommended capitalization levels recommended by the IMF and the Economists holding positions within the Treasury. The highest is at like 14%, which means that particular bank has enough reserve capital to only cover 14% of it's total liabilities. The banks are essentially holding liabilities as assets. It's the same practice that killed the American economy when that bubble popped in 2007/8.

If/when the housing bubble there finally collapses, none of those banks will be solvent. Australians will be left owing the lenders and financiers billions in assets and have zero way of paying it back.

The only saving grace for the Australians is that they actually save their money, but so few keep anything out of the banks.

[–]trpdownunder 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Yeah there's a lot of talk about the housing bubble here, but everytime it comes up representatives of all the banks get up in arms and release mountains of press releases about how the economy is just fine, housing prices are normal and we're all going to join hands and sing kumbaya as the top 10% of society (read baby boomers) make millions from housing investment. Meanwhile my generation is going to be the first one in australian history to not be able to afford a house. These guys are sitting on a timebomb.

[–]john1443 14 points15 points  (0 children)

For fucks sake, women CHOOSE to have kids. They CHOOSE not to work longer hours for more years. How is this a disadvantage to them if they chose this? If a man chose to take more time off work to look after their kids, ANZ won't top of their super, hmm? Fucks sake.

If one person takes time off to pursue personal matters, it's just to pay less. Apparently, if a collective (e.g. females) chooses to do the same thing, it's unjust to pay less. Somehow, decisions on an individual level that have (real) consequences, magically transform the nature of their consequences on a collective level for no reason. Logic and reason are not a feminist's best assets.

[–]theHangedGod 7 points8 points  (1 child)

There's also a big risk factor. A man is far more willing to risk his life and his health for a higher wage, where women value their health more than money.

Working on an oil rig, for example, is incredibly dangerous and dirty work where you're around explosives and strong chemicals most of the day. The pay is usually fanatic. I've never met a woman who worked the oil rigs, but I've seem nearly a hundred men. A typical woman would take a job at the checkout counter of a grocery store for half the pay.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Way. WAY less than half the pay. Probably closer to 1/5.

[–]cesarfd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They CHOOSE not to work longer hours for more years.

Not only this. Men are the ones doing the relevant jobs.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Like it matters to them. They just want what we have. It's the bully on the school playground, just hiding behind the law.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Feminism is the fear that men will do what women want to do.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we already to what women want to do. feminism is the fear that men will stop women from doing as they want to do. which is imitate men.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 190 points191 points  (15 children)

Top Comment. There's hope...

This is one of the most disgusting, blatantly dishonest, gender-baiting, hate-mongering, disingenuous videos I've ever seen.

So according to the ANZ, employment or financial assets are the only adequate measure of women's success in society. Even if women have more diverse interests that align with compassionate and child rearing pursuits which severely limit their employment and financial abilities. What's that? Maybe women don't value financial success as highly as men do? I wonder if evolution has anything to do with that... [Finally evolution is being used by the mainstream to explain gender differences].

Women are not paid less than men for the same work, this is blatantly untrue, it is illegal to pay people different wages based on their gender. My mother was a CEO for most of her adult life, and she knows for a fact that she made more than several of her male counterparts. You are pandering to pathetic professional victims and liars (Feminists). I'll be removing my accounts from the ANZ as soon as possible. So will my partner, so will my family members. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sGn6PdmIo - Thomas Sowell Dismantles the gender wage-gap myth in less than 5 minutes.

I didn't think the "Equal Opportunity Act of 2010", only went one way? Equal Opportunity Act 2010 Sect. 18 Clause 18, it clearly states... 'An employer must not discriminate against an employee (a) by denying or limiting access by the employee to opportunities for promotion, transfer or training or to any other benefits connected with the employment'

Also, imagine if a corporation made an advertisement talking about the fact that Male brains are slightly larger than female brains, and that they contain more grey matter than female brains? And while it's true that females do better than males when it comes to language skills, males consistently out-perform females when it comes to mathematics. How long would it take for an angry Feminist mob to take down that ad?

Some facts about boys and girls you left out: Researchers concluded that when it comes to math, the brain of a 12-year-old girl resembles that of an 8-year-old boy. Notably, male brains contain about 6.5 times more gray matter -- sometimes called 'thinking matter" -- than women. Female brains have more than 9.5 times as much white matter, the stuff that connects various parts of the brain, than male brains. - Web MD "How Male and Female Brains Differ".

Bravo to the people calling out this disingenuous campaign. What does the ANZ gain from hyping up the battle of the sexes?? Might want to sack the bigot that came up with this idea...?

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[–]mryddlin 21 points22 points  (9 children)

You can't change True Believer with words, that is clear from the historical record.

It's the regular folk, those that just watch stuff from the side lines that these types of post reach to.

They are looking for someone to articulate the feelings of dread and this one is a great example.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's an insightful way to put it. Well said.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Not my words, but I try to remember them.

[–][deleted] 15 points15 points

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[–]MrRexels 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm writing up a post about how progressive it's just another modern religion dressed up to not look like one already.

[–]csehszlovakze 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Sandman and TL;DR have showed in their videos how feminism has done so little for women's right to vote. If we could only correct this misinfo, feminism would cease to exist in a short time.

[–]DarkAlpha69 1 points1 points [recovered]

Sounds interesting, do you have a link for those videos?

[–]csehszlovakze 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[–]CAPSLOCK44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who cares if we convince the women. What matters is convincing all the blue pill men that all this shit is retarded. If every male in society didn't buy this, we'd be well on our way to eradicating all this nonsense.

[–]pewpfeast420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The comment actually did decently well. Good amount of likes, and the only people going against him were (predictably) women when I checked.

[–]newls 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great comment. I love it when SJW hypocrites get slammed in the face with the cold, righteous hammer of logic.

Wouldn't be surprised if it's removed though.

[–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator 224 points225 points  (26 children)

Hi Nic, at ANZ, while we have parity in salaries for women and men in equivalent roles, our numbers show that the superannuation account balance for female employees are still lower. Reasons for this include larger numbers of female employees working part time and/or taking time out to care for families. Our research also shows that in Australia, women retire with 47% less superannuation than men – and 1 in 3 women will retire with no superannuation at all. These are serious numbers and we are trying to do our part to make some change to that. The additional superannuation contribution recognises the need to help women build superannuation savings so that they have greater security in retirement. You can read more about the research here: http://www.women.anz.com/the-conversation/anz-womens-report

So basically they are saying that men save more money. Men will spend less money, and sacrifice those short term spending benefits for long term investments. And to offset this, the bank is giving women more money into savings. So women still get to spend as much as they'd like, but ALSO get the savings. The best of both worlds.

Hmmm... Sounds a lot like some stupid trend among feminists I read about.

[–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (6 children)

Yeah, sounds just like that and it makes me livid.

You breed the behavior you incentivize.

[–]Jojobelle 25 points26 points  (5 children)

the world has gone absolutely mad.hooray sat the girls now i can spend500 extra dollars on mac makeup to beprettier so i can attract a richer husband

[–]MelodyMyst 6 points7 points  (4 children)

"The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing."

One of the last lines of Howard Roarkes soliloquy from "The Fountainhead"

Here is the whole speech: http://youtu.be/TRXcaWVr_uI

This movie struck me hard as a 12 year old boy, although I didn't really understand the concepts fully.

The words were true when I first heard them in 1978, and now that I comprehend them fully and have seen the enemy in action, still ring true.

Love her or hate her, Miss Rand spoke truth.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

"The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing."

Bullshit. It's due to selfishness.

[–]MelodyMyst 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would direct you to:

"The Virtue of Selfishness"

[–]dapreyingmantis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He isn't wrong. When a persons' selfishness exceeds what they can get for themselves or when what they want belongs to another, they have to take advantage of others. There are two main ways to do this: forcefully taking from others, or have other people sacrifice their resources to you. This self-sacrificing is often brought about using trickery and dishonest incentivizing. (Ex: your boss asks you to work late Fridays from now on as a favor. You think this will improve your chances of getting promoted, but actually your boss just didn't want to spend time and money hiring someone to work at that time.)

If people weren't self-sacrificing, the selfish couldn't capitalize and exploit their good intentions so easily.

We are all selfish to some extent, it's a survival instinct, it only becomes a problem when people let it take control over them.

Society encourages self-sacrifice much more than it encourages selfishness. 'Sharing is caring' for example. Many religions and schools engage in community service and the like.

But in the context of this quote, this sacrificing of the self for the collective has dire consequences. It's like Jenga. You keep trying to make the tower taller and taller at the cost of stability, resulting in collapse. It isn't always this extreme in reality, but the longer it goes on, the closer we get to crashing our Jenga tower or becoming The Borg from Star Trek. Maybe we want that. Just my spare thoughts on the matter.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 47 points47 points [recovered]

Reasons for this include larger numbers of female employees working part time and/or taking time out to care for families.

Women get paid less because they work less. Obviously this is the work of the patriarchy! /s

[–]Magnum256[🍰] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I like how this implies that whatever the female is doing, it involves caring for her family. There are plenty of lazy women out there who hate work (just as there are men) and take time away from it to do things they find more enjoyable that don't involve a family.

Furthermore anything family-related shouldn't be praised or celebrated. People with families are blessed to have them. They'll have children to look after them when they're old, and love them (most of the time) unconditionally. There's a lot of benefit to having a family so when society tries to sell it as some big chore or sacrifice I can't help but laugh. If someone chooses to start a family then they need to take the good with the bad, the hard with the easy, and not expect society to compensate them.

Personally I don't intend to have children, and because of that I'll most likely be more financially stable through most of my life compared to the average person who has a family, but don't think that I haven't considered that when I'm in my late 60s and onward I won't (potentially) be saddened not to have that family-unit to love and support me. So do I have sympathy for anyone that takes on the responsibility of a family in their younger years? Fuck no. It's a choice and one with pros and cons; fucking deal with it. Don't stand there with your hand out.

[–]cariboo_j 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Having children is a personal project. A significant part of the wage gap is because women take maternity leave and work reduced hours if they even return to work.

So women take time off work for a personal project they enjoy, then as a result earn less money? Sounds fair to me. Except the screeching feminist harpies are trying to tell me I have an unfair advantage because... I work more hours and therefore make more money? Wtf?

[–]kireol 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Women get paid less because:

Women work less

Women choose to get degrees in lower paying fields

Women choose to not learn skills that make them more money

Women have less tenure on the job than men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwogDPh-Sow

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Clearly women need to get 2 or 3 jobs to make enough pay to equal the men that are working 2 or 3 jobs.

[–]The_Ralph 7 points8 points  (0 children)

<Women get paid less because they work less.

Do you know how correct you are?

One study of 4,000 men and 4,000 women provides some insight:

1) Women spend more time then men at work socializing and shopping

2) Men multi task at work more than women

3) Men work more diligently than women

4) Women spend fewer hours at work on their computers

5) Men care more about work productivity than women

(Source: Startling Data: Are Men 32% more productive than Women? http://blog.rescuetime.com/2010/05/04/startling-data-are-men-32-more-productive-than-women/)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe they should stay with their husbands then instead of spreading their pussy around town..

But I guess it's easier to work part time then ask for handouts

[–]iamnotfromtexas90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotta love Soviet Communism.

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[–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator 22 points23 points  (9 children)

So they choose to work less hours, and make less money. They don't deserve even extra money for making a choice.

I can't go to my job and say, "Hey, listen, I just don't want to go to work today because I don't feel like it. But, uhhh... Can you still pay me any ways?"

[–]changshuaidiao 45 points46 points  (4 children)

You know what women in the west don't get enough of? Free shit

[–]Redasshole 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I say let them have everything. I mean, lets give them the power, a transgendered uneducated feminist female. Lets give them all the money. Lets this fucking society implode. Then, men leave. They get that big island that is America, they starve to death and we go back a few hundred years later when they are all dead. Finally, we teach in history class about feminism.

Oh wait, that wouldn't work, they would launch nuclear attacks to get attention.

[–]1oldredder 72 points73 points  (12 children)

no kidding - anyone showing their salary and/or paystub, hours worked, can show the pay is equal. Unequal pay for the same job isn't even legal.

[–][deleted] 74 points75 points  (6 children)

No, you see, the women worked less and so the pay is unequal, pay should be equal otherwise misogyny.

[–]Scarbane 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I can already imagine those women going to previous employers, lawyers in tow, asking for back pay/alimony for all those hours they didn't work when they were staying home with the kids.

[–]KorianHUN 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Look at THIS logic:
-the BANK pays less for women
-the BANK give "bonus" for women
-the BANK says they are fighting for equality
-if HITLER would have freed 10 jews from a concentration camp, he would have been a hero for it?
Once again, this is the actual logic the bank used. They are just simply stupid.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I don't know if they even work less. I knew a couple that got divorced.

He made 80k and put 15% into his 401k.

She made 110k per year, no 401k

Guess who lost half their 401k in the divorced? That's right, him

[–]TaeTaeDS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As well as this, I have worked in jobs with the same description as women and have had a higher wage than them, given my by female boss. One of the women I worked with asked why I was earning more than the other people on the same job description as then during a company monthly meeting. My boss said it was because I negotiated my pay and none of the females even attempted to.

Blame smart people for negotiating themselves into a better people and punish them for it sounds fair as fuck doesn't it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hell, it worked for women tennis players. Despite less sales and only playing three sets instead of five like men, they demanded (and got) equal prizes

[–]fullhalf 21 points22 points  (1 child)

best part is they actually admit this is true in the facebook replies. they said women work less and end up with less in their retirement accounts. this fact is unequal and they want to make it equal. unfortunately, i don't think they know what equal actually means.

[–]Johnny10toes 22 points23 points  (0 children)

i don't think they know what equal actually means.

And that's scary given what they do.

[–]newls 11 points12 points  (1 child)

The statistics pop out the way they do because women earn less. On average they work fewer hours, tend to choose careers that have lower overall pay, and leave the world of work earlier than men do.

SJWs and related interest groups misinterpret these statistics and muddle up cause and effect.

Rather than coming to the logical conclusion that women as a group just aren't that bothered with earning more, they don their beloved victim status and lay the blame on external circumstances, because they're incapable of taking responsibility for anything in their own lives, and are incapable of thinking on macro scales.

[–]1oldredder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

invalid: women don't earn less because anyone can choose to work less hours and they all fall into the same category regardless of gender or age.

To look specifically at women one can never conclude women are paid less: one can conclude the largest number of people volunteering NOT TO WORK are women and that's an entirely different answer. They are paid the same.

[–]tuxedoburrito 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hypothetically say that women were paid less.

Then it'd be in the best interest for capital gain for the companies to hire almost entirely women by that logic.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (1 child)

It's all in their stupid banner:

"Girls start AHEAD" "#equalfuture"

Those are some contradictory statements...

[–]1aguy01 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No they explained it. It's because society doesn't allow women to succeed. /s

[–]1wakethfkupneo 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Serious question: is this against the law? There must be some law against discrimination, right?

[–]Redasshole 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is. Look in the comments, some point it out. They hamster it away.

[–]TheJollySatan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is illegal. Apparently they got some "special exemption". It is horse shit and highly unethical.

Equal Opportunity Act 2010 Sect. 18 Clause 18, it clearly states... 'An employer must not discriminate against an employee (a) by denying or limiting access by the employee to opportunities for promotion, transfer or training or to any other benefits connected with the employment'

I'm glad most of the comments are slamming them for being failing so bad.

[–]HoundDogs 19 points20 points  (2 children)

If women were actually being paid $.77 for every dollar a man earns for the same work then EVERY COMPANY IN THE WORLD would only hire females because it would improve their bottom line. That doesn't happen. This leaves us with one of two possibilities:

1.) The Gender pay gap exists and women are so incompetent that companies are willing to pay men more to get the job done.

2.) The Gender pay gap does not exist and any discrepancy in pay is a result of the jobs women choose as oppose to the jobs men choose.

I'll save you the trouble, the answer is #2.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With a touch of #1 including harassment lawsuit liability.

[–]NidStyles 32 points33 points  (32 children)

I'm actually not surprised. Australia is a mess right now. On paper they look great, in reality their social policies are strangling the country.

[–]forscienceyeah 2 points2 points [recovered]

If the main left party gets in, the country is going down the drain fast. If only Tony Abbott wasn't such a fucking idiot, the LNP might have a chance of holding on to Government.

[–]mattizie 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I think Australia is pretty much fucked either way. Regardless of who wins the election.

The problem is that Australia is pretty much a banana republic. The only reason we have had any economic strength was due to mining exports. Our other exports are agriculture and education.

Seeing how the price/demand for all these exports are falling, we have nothing to offer. This financial year we imported ~4B more than we exported.

For the vast majority of Australia, all our cash is tied up in property, that when it bursts is going to make the bubble in America look like a ripple, especially when the cost to bail out ONE major bank will be ~25% of our GDP.

Every service that can be sold to private business (with kickbacks to the politicians) has been sold.

It's going to be interesting times for this shithole of a once good country in the next 10 years to say the least.

[–]TheJollySatan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hey, we don't have citizens united bullshit style lobbying here, could be a lot worse.

[–]mattizie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because it could be a lot worse, it doesn't mean it's any good.

This is also a problem I've realised with Australia, compared to other countries: we settle for a lot more bullshit than anyone else will tolerate.

But if you reread my post, you'll see that's not the overall problem with our future.

[–]NidStyles 21 points22 points  (26 children)

I don't think it will matter to be honest. Australia is circling that drain really fast right now, and it's not the "left or right" dichotomy that is doing it. It's that you let foreigners essentially run the country. You guys jail people for criticizing Jews FFS. The Chinese have greater access to your land, and you let the UN tell what land can and can not be developed in YOUR OWN country.

It's the Australian people themselves that fucked up with letting those assholes have any say over your nation. That refugees were allowed to come in a live off the dole is a minor part of that mess compared to what the foreign interests that printed up their own money are doing.

Let's not even go into the depth of propaganda....

[–]Ketaminewarrior[S] 7 points8 points  (13 children)

Let's not forget that they confiscated all our guns too.

It really is one huge nanny state

[–]NidStyles 4 points5 points  (11 children)

You don't need guns to be honest. Bows are pretty cheap, and there are far more of you than there are of the foreigners and UN pushers.

IMO, Australians need to take back their country.

[–]silly_bird 11 points11 points [recovered]

Illegal as well, hell even airsoft is banned. It took them years to get paintball legalised.

[–]TheJollySatan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Did you know lobbying citizens united style is highly illegal here? Think you have more issues on your side of the pacific.

[–]NidStyles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, so is standing up for yourself, and you wonder why your own country is turning against you, and why the refugees laugh at you.

[–]vzhu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not to mention that debacle over the fucking Adler.

[–]TheJollySatan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

As an Australian, let me correct some lapses in your knowledge.

Refugees are a blown up issue, we do boat turn backs and deal with fuck all compared to most other nations.

We also tax the fuck out of the foreign investors, including Chinese much much more than you do in the US. They get hamstrung with projects because they can't keep up with OH&S and are only allowed to lease areas for major projects like mining. The few mines Chinese companies do have here aren't making any making money. You can thank BHP and Rio for driving the iron ore price through the floor, they pull it out of the ground the cheapest in the world and they only iron miners making a profit. It's a deliberate strategy to make Vale bleed and to hurt the production from high cost mines in china and India.

As for housing, just wait for the Sydney and Melbourne property bubble to burst. Foreign investors are going to have invested billions and given hundreds of millions to the government in stamp duty. Housing is already dropping in value in some states, it's hard to find tenants, those assets are going to burn holes in their pockets. Banks are increasing interest on investment loans.

You also should check out the coal mine that got sold to vale for a half a billion that just got sold back to an Australian company for a dollar.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-31/the-600-million-mine-sold-for-a-dollar-underscores-ruin-of-coal

We are a nation of crooks after all.

and you let the UN tell what land can and can not be developed in YOUR OWN country.

Keh? We don't pay attention to them, we are still logging Tasmania and building another port on the door step of the great barrier reef despite all their whinging about heritage listings. We've also told the UN to go suck it when it comes to processing refugees a number of times recently.

It's the Australian people themselves that fucked up with letting those assholes have any say over your nation.

Sure, we just told the trading partners at the TPP to eat a dick at the latest round talks

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/trade-minister-andrew-robb-confirms-australia-will-not-sign-trans-pacific-partnership-deal/story-fnu2pycd-1227465915303

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As for getting arrested for criticizing Jews. I can use the word cunt and fire it casually around most conversations here, good luck at being that casually disparaging in the US.

[–]NidStyles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You turn boats back, now, after Abott changed the policy.

You tax free money, great job. That doesn't change that they essentially own the country.

You don't pay attention to them? Really? You can't build a new land development without ICLEI's approval in Australia. Everything has to meet their guidelines of "sustainability".

Casually disparaging in the US. You think being able to say the word cunt is the ability to be disparaging? I don't get put in prison for 3 years when I criticize the Jews.

[–]theone899 14 points15 points  (3 children)

The comments just evidence that most normal people aren't SJW's. What that bank has done is a terrible decision.

[–]mattizie 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Most people [with money] aren't SJW's

Everyone knows SJW's don't have any money.

[–]iamnotfromtexas90 3 points4 points  (1 child)

most normal people aren't SJW's.

Ahh, but most marketing asshats ARE SWJ's and that's all that matters. Obviously, the idiots in charge of this bank hired a marketing firm to catch the 'young, hip, progressive' generation. Who ironically have no money. What they have done is put their actual customers with money to spend in exile. It ALWAYS comes back to the money. This will bite them in the ass, and I will be sitting here enjoying my popcorn the entire time.

[–]chill1995 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Looks like I'm off to withdraw all my money. Jesus fucking christ.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 11 points12 points  (2 children)

So men work more hours than women, spend less money, save more, and end up with more at retirement as a result.

This is unfair. Why should the bank have to hand women free money? Can't they take the money from their male employees' retirement accounts?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Adding to the fact that we're willing to do more hazardous jobs, at a much greater risk of workplace injury and death, and then more likely to die earlier from old age.

In many countries, women are allowed to retire about 5 years earlier men.

It comes to the point that the modern women is less contributing to society and more of a parasite.

On the other hand, their often illogical and impulsive spending habits does sort of help the economy though.

[–]1aguy01 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Good thing gender is a social construct and the men can just wake up and declare 'I'm a woman now' to receive these benefits.

[–]Uberawr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But on a serious note though, if you say you identify yourself as a women, would you be entitled to the same benefits? What about if you're a gay male? How about a women who identifies as a man?

[–]randomkloud 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is truly one of the most blatantly sexist things I have ever seen.

Research shows that this is because of things like women tending to spend more time out of the work place and also working part-time as they care for the family.

so basically women earn less than men ebcause they work less than men...thus they must be paid the same to achieve equality? sounds bass ackwards to me.

The most disgusting thing is how a single father or man struggling with disabilities or medical bills doesn't get this raise, but a healthy middle class woman does, for no reason other than gender.

they dont need more money because other men are making more...so the secret network of patriachs will surely provide for him.

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from the comments

macro level through solutions aimed at the micro level. I get that. The males can see this as unfair, as it may be in the literal sense of the law, but this is essentially how affirmative action works. Sometimes you have to do something that's a little wrong to do what's right on a broader scale. There's no doubt there's much to do but it's good to have the conversation and to see something happening...

so they know its fucked up

Well I for one think this is amazing; and necessary first steps towards actual equality not on an annual basis but across a lifetime.

this is what they actually believe... this bank is throwing good money into a black hole by compensating less productive employees precisely for their lack of productivity. I'm pretty left leaning (seemingly a rarity on this sub) but this is absolutely ridiculous.

I'd also like the people above to consider that women still statistically outlive men, hence the need to address the different gendered implications of superannuation: very simply, you need income stability for longer if you live longer.

then why the fuck not work more....have they ever considered the reason why men live shorter lives is because a healthy work-life balance isnt an option and maybe isn't even desired. this is like me claiming to be a transgender woman and trying to claim maternity benefits.

Matthew, it's not because of the choice it's because the jobs/career paths are gendered. Become a nurse? That's still seen as a girls job. Then they get paid less for no other reason. None

fuck me, if that's all it took to get high pay I'd quit my school and enter nursing.

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"First off, this make kids say our political pov has GOT to stop... it's sickening propaganda bullshit... and Second, logic would stay that, considering ANZ claiming "special measures... taken for the purpose of achieving substantive equality" that either 1) Without this action, ANZ pay has thus far been inequitable, and unless pay is adjusted going forward or another similar action is taken annually, they have been or are continuing to discriminate against women; or 2) since they are not continuing to take this action annually or adjust pay going forward, that their claim that this is a "special measure... taken for the purpose of achieving substantive equality" is false, and they are being sexist and unequal towards men... or you know... you could just admit you're shamelessly being sexist for teh advertising gains."

[–]Ossuari 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I sense a major legal action coming soon. The invasion has come to Australia luckily people here have some common sense.

[–]zaiguy 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Earlier, on another thread, I posited that the UK was leading the charge towards becoming the most shitbrained, femtarded pile of insanity in the anglosphere.

I take that back. Australia is clearly out at the front of the pack.

[–]newls 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The Western cultures (yep that includes Australia + NZ) in general are fucked.

[–]1aguy01 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for the lawyers to sue the shit out of them.

[–]1Snivellious 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Ethics aside, I would be looking at this very suspiciously if I held stock in the bank. As several people on Facebook are pointing out, it looks like it might violate a bunch of sex discrimination and fair wage laws. The bank says no, but apparently got that answer by talking to the parts of the government most likely to say "go for it!"

I'm half expecting to see a stack of discrimination suits, possibly followed up by a shareholder derivative suit for opening the bank up to so much liability.

[–]Swanksterino 2 points3 points  (3 children)

My understanding of discrimination law (from numerous corporate HR sensitivity trainings), is that the offended group or person must be of a 'protected class'. My understanding of protected classes are that they include seemingly every fathomable group, except WASPy dudes. That exception seems more implied, as they simply note every general variable, that doesn't include straight, white, Christian, men. They just don't meet the criteria, so it is impossible to 'legally' discriminate against them. Unless maybe sexual harassment, but I would mostly welcome, or end that on my own. Guess that's why I don't need protection?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's pure fucking insanity. Any group can be fucking discriminated against. Who the fuck gets to define a "protected class" that's asking for fucked up shit.

[–]1Snivellious 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think this is true of many regulations and departmental policies, but (at least in the US) the original laws at work tend to be sex-neutral. The Equal Pay Act simply states that people shall not pay one sex more than the other for similar jobs requiring similar skills.

Obviously that's almost always been suits over women getting paid less, but I'm not sure I've ever seen something as overt as "here's $500 for being a woman".

[–]Swanksterino 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TIL; Australian Banks are BB AF.

[–]recon_johnny 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Holy shit. That escalated quickly.

Look at the cunts that tried to toe the feminist line--"You're a liberal, aren't you"; "it's widely known there's a wage gap"; "No, it's not dependent on women's choices", etc, etc, etc. Pretty much boils to this: "We DESERVE the right to have as much or more than men, we just don't want to be expected to work for it".

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ANZ chief executive Mike Smith told local media the bank was committed to pay any gender equality for women, including equal representation for women in senior leadership roles.

ANZ said on Wednesday it will pay an extra 500 Australian dollars ($367) a year to female employees with less than 50,000 Australian dollars ($36,656) in their superannuation funds, with contributions on parental leave also to be paid by the bank for up to 24 months.

http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/anz-to-increase-pay-to-women-following-gender-report-115072900421_1.html

[–]vicious_armbar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

SO MUCH FAIL! But really discriminating against people based on sex is not only illegal but easily provable. If pay discrimination was real then you'd see a large amount of companies with an all female workforce. If female workers who are equally talented, reliable, and driven as their male cohorts are paid less [or from the businesses perspective cheaper] solely due to their gender; then businesses would be jump all over each other to hire them. Remember the entire point of running a business is to make money, and one of the biggest ways you do that is by keeping costs down.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (29 children)

The banks that currently exist are corrupted: Time to create new ones.

Does anyone here know how to do it?

I would start now if I had the necessary knowledge.

[–]mikesteane 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I (Australian) switched to the Bendigo Bank a few years ago. I have found their service to be consistently excellent, unlike any other bank I have ever used. I hope they can maintain their high standards when they get, as I am sure they will, to the size of the major banks.

If you are with ANZ, I suggest switching to Bendigo now and telling them it is because of their descrimination against men.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe you're right but the infiltration of feminist is systemic and I have no warranty the one day Bendigo will not do thing comparable to what ANZ did.

I could only trust a bank if I'm a part of its board and can assists to the board meetings.

[–]8n0n 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue with an islamic mosque in Bendigo (Victoria, Australia) placed this bank on my watch list.

An account to raise funds for such a building was opened, with no issues; whereas an account for those raising funds to protest the establishment of such a structure was closed on dubious grounds.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-08/bendigo-bank-stands-by-decision-to-close-account-of-anti-mosque/5375340

Decent bank, but they can also improve.

[–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Banks do NOT give a shit if you bank with them. They do NOT care less. They don't give two shits if you have $20M in their savings accounts... You moving bank does absolutely nothing to their bottom line. So don't waste your time. I work in finance - they are not going to care one iota even if 10,000 people moved accounts.

So go with the bank that meets your needs - not some ideology. For example I bank with Westpac - they are great - many ATMs, and a App that allows you to access your cash at any ATM without your CC, plus pay by phone (NFC chip), etc.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Does anyone here know how to do it?

Yes. The answer is Bitcoin. Be your own bank.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Trouble with Bitcoin is that it give a too big advantages to the early adopters, especially Satoshi Nakamoto but I agree that the idea of an electronic money can work.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Nakamoto's coins haven't moved in years. Chances are that he lost the keys or died. Buying some BTC now would still make you an early adopter. In 10 years a single bitcoin will probably be worth a few thousand USD. Right now it's <$280 per coin.

Every time a country goes belly up people rush to the ATM and get fucked by their bank. First case was Cyprus. This time it was Greece, and there was a picture of an old Greek man sitting on the pavement bawling his eyes out because he couldn't withdraw his money. Next will be Puerto Rico, etc etc etc.

The economic system has been re-engineered to collapse every few years so that the economic alphas at the top can buy low, then pump up the market and sell high. Bitcoin definitely isn't without its drawbacks, personally I want to get into gold bullion next. Not gold certificates, but actual physical gold. When (not if) the next collapse comes you want to be the guy with trade-able assets, not the guy crying on the pavement.

[–]dafuqey 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Buying some BTC now would still make you an early adopter. In 10 years a single bitcoin will probably be worth a few thousand USD. Right now it's <$280 per coin

IMO, biggest error ppl make of bitcoin is that they think bitcoin will be only crypto currency. Bitcoin is the first working cryptocurrency. But as soon as new and better currency comes out, the bitcoin will be replaced within a sec because there is no intrinsic value in bitcoin and there will be no more demand to maintain the value of bitcoin. Seriously.. what if a guy named Mulon Esk develops a "MEGA coin" that supersedes every aspect of bitcoin? Do you think bitcoin will still worth a few thousands USD? I do not think so.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But as soon as new and better currency comes out, the bitcoin will be replaced within a sec

There are literally hundreds of "alternative" crytocurrencies. Bitcoin was the first and therefore has the largest network and dedicated developers creating entire businesses around it. Since bitcoin is open source you can literally change a few things and start your own currency.

Anyway, I agree with the general thrust--nothing is a sure bet, BTC included. But fiat currency is being bled of value. The rape of the middle class was not an accident. It was orchestrated to go down this way. BTC is a way to sidestep the traditional banking system.

One should never put all their eggs in one basket.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (18 children)

I smell something like some blue pill defeatism in your comment but I may be wrong.

I speaking about creating a small bank not a new UBS. The full investment to do so is more about 7 M$ from the few informations that I got. I is still hard to collect but when you think that you will get your economic freedom at this price maybe the reward compensate the effort.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (11 children)

You don't need to be so aggressive. If you know better than me, then give me explainations.

What are the equity needed? what does the regulation authority requires to open a bank? How many associates are required? how long does the procedure need to be completed? What is needed to for the building of a bank

Why do you want a bank to give credits? There are deposit banks which primary utility is to store the money of people. Credit is not mandatory to make a bank run even if it is a good source of revenues. Unfortunately this is something that we forgot.

For a small bank I agree that the structural fees may be higher, that the margin to loan money will be lower but at least it can secure the funds of the clients by avoiding something like the chypriot crisis where banks used the money of their customer to recover their losses. Actually I am pretty sure that there is plenty of people that would prefer to pay an higher fees for their bank account but be in an ethical bank, a really one.

And one last point: in 2008 the bankers showed to the world that they don't care about society and that they have the power over the democracies. They have done others demonstrations of power in Ireland in 2011 and in Greece last month.

Do you know why those banksters got so arrogant? It is because they are not threatened by any concurrence.

For our freedom, we need people to remove their money from those big banks that take part in financial crisis, corruption and money laundering at level that are beyond imagination.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Very well . Now we are starting a conversation.

I measure money in euros, not in tons.

I know that the employees have a high cost so the best thing would be to lower the number of employees. Creating an online bank could be a good option in that way.

About investor: my mention of chypriot crisis was not random. I miss the source but a bill that will enter in function in 2016 will allow bank of European Union to refund their capital with the deposit of their customer while a certain amount of money stay on their bank account. I don't know which level but it is supposed to be comparable to the Chypriot crisis so something like 100000 euros and may be lower.

Any people would prefer to risk one's money in an high risk investment than see it taken by the bank for free. That reality should make it easy to find people to invest in the creation of a bank.

For competition against existing bank, in EU for what I know people are so tired of the abuses of those banks that they would run for any decent alternative.

Make money is the hardest part of the problem. I would still use credit, especially microcredit that has proven to be very efficient when the persons that borrow money is followed by an association. Given the impoverishment of European populations, microcredit in Europe will be full of opportunities and a small local bank is in a better position to do microcredit than a big bank.

To lower the problem of investor, the idea would be that "investor" would actually be customer that prefer to have their money in a bank that they own.

For IT it is far much easier than it looks like for a small bank because of the lower volume of transaction. Many free software are available and pretty efficient and one year of work is enough to build an IT architecture for a small bank. The biggest part is to protect your material against failure and theft and keep the coherence of your data. But if the volume of your transactions is < 10000 per day I think it is affordable.

For cash points:Many strategies are possible. * Borrow a licence to use already existing cash point like online bank already do * Be only a secondary bank, so your customer still have a primary account from which they can * See if with the adhesion to the Visa / Mastercard system you don't automatically get access to world wide cash points

For compliance, each countries have it own particularity and we need to share information about that subject.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

What you say is interesting but wish I had better references than "tons" of money which means nothing to me.

About the cost of IT: For what I know they are an exponential function of the size of the structure that you build, which mean that a big system used by the biggest banks is totally unaffordable for a small bank but the small bank has options that a big bank doesn't have: it can use solutions that are available on large scale and therefor less expensive (especially on the hardware part) because the solicitation of their IT is lower.

A compliance department is something a big bank can afford. But when you are on a small structure, thing are different. One solution would the associate with others small bank creators, create some federation of small banks that would help to share the knowledge required to create a bank and make it run and the audit for respect of specifications.

I find interesting that you think like a big company employee ie in terms of money where a creator of a small structure will more think the problem in terms of time.

2 year ago I was in the same state of mind than you but when I learn that some people were able to create and run small ISPs make it work even in front of the merciless of bigs operators, still exists today and make benefits, it gave me hope.

Creating and ISP and creating a bank are two problems that are similar on many points: regulated sector, high cost to enter the market, networks barriers, hard work to catch the confidence of the customers, highly solicited hardware and software.

It just need patience and and lot of time more than a lot of money to reach your target. But I think that this is the price of freedom (freedom of expression for ISP, economic freedom for banks).

About ruining myself: I think I have more to loose in a civil war indirectly created by the malfunction of the financial system than in a bankrupt a small bank.

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[–]TrueBro 8 points9 points  (1 child)

So they admit they are paying females employees less than men?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah if this is legal then we have reached blatant legislated misandry in the most insane overt way.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok cool. Don't work for the company.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ugh. This is so wrong. They're already intimidating and manipulative and now they're getting more money to be even more intimidating THIS IS SO WRONG I OBJECT

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not here to tone police but you sound like a woman

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I posted and asked them if they were admitting to gender discrimination in the past?

[–]killahvan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Coming to Toronto at a bank near you. God help us ALL!

[–]aa223 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know what? I say let this bank give free money to women. After a while a lot of the men who are being shafted will quit and the company will truly go into chaos without the man able to pretty much keep things together. The only problem I can see with this is that unemployment in Australia is pretty high which can make it harder for them not to get a job.

But then again I pose the lingering question: how much is our pride worth?

[–]wanderer779 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At first I was actually uplifted a little by the comments, but once you scroll further you get a lot of "i would like more money, and I am a woman, therefore you should give me money" arguments.

I feel sorry for that poor PR person who has to respond to all the facebook comments.

[–]tuxedoburrito 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's great that even women are the ones commenting saying they're taking their banking elsewhere.

[–]wanderer779 2 points3 points  (0 children)

there are an equal # saying they're switching to ANZ. Maybe it's mostly a business decision and they figured they could grow deposits this way.

[–]Swanksterino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks to gender fluidity, I can just declare myself a double reversed, transgender, lesbian, gay, who identifies as a hermaphrodite. Presto! My own protected class! Back off haters, my non-specific, stoic, fabulousness, compells you!

Money, please...

[–]libcuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remember, Feminism is a female advocacy movement ad infinitum. The more they get away with the more brazen and insane they will get. You cannot appease a bully. This is going to get worse and worse.

[–]iamnotfromtexas90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After reading their FB page, it's apparent that not only are they a bunch of Marxists with no idea how reality and capitalism works, but none of their services work either. LOL!

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[–]iamnotfromtexas90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cartman already disproved this concept completely. How about I claim I'm a transgender woman? Give me a more money please. edit: holy shit I'm not as witty as I thought, someone already posted it.

[–]Roshambo_USMC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm waiting for the day when someone can eloquently and famously crush this semantic wordplay that permeates American politics. Some dude who can just come in and break it down Barney-style, VERY short, concise, and no room for ambiguity left in his statement. Something so basically mathematic, and he leaves no room for rebuttal with the normal nonsense and hyperbole.

[–]Stythe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha, that's golden. When have handouts EVER helped anyone in the long run? Jesus christ, what a retarded way to try and get customers. There's a reason the saying is "give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach him to fish and he eats for life."

[–]colucci 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If my bank does this, you can bet your ass I'm going to find another service provider.

[–]Rougepellet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's already obvious this train wreck known as feminism can't be stopped. I only take comfort in the fact that it can't run forever. It might be years before the masses start to see it for the bullshit it is. Especially women, it gives them so much power why would they want to give it up. The men who support it though... Like jews supporting the Nazis or blacks supporting the KKK, what the fuck are they doing.

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