36-year-old single mother divorcee asks how to lock down a man. Gets angry and defensive when people tell her it's probably not gonna happen. (self.TheRedPill)

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Summary: Don't bother trying to explain concepts like The Wall and "personal responsibility" to women, especially postwall women. They don't get it. And worse yet, they get defensive and angry.

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We bring you this breaking news story live from AskMen, otherwise known as a hub for women to come and get validation from thirsty guys. Today is no exception. A woman posted about how to land herself a nice beta provider after almost three decades of riding the cock carousel. Here are her stats:

  • 36 years old

  • divorced

  • single mother

  • is proud and open about having tons of sex with random alphas from Tinder and bars. Calls herself an "ethical slut" and wears it like a badge of honor

  • has an "alpha personality" herself (ie. is a bitch)

Even for the beta-blast that is AskMen, this was too much to handle. People started telling her to lower her standards and that she probably was not going to get a high value male, what with all of her handicaps. Of course, our feminist heroine can't accept that and lashes out at the commenters, telling them that they're probably just stupid teenagers who don't know nothing. Here are some highlights:

But my standards for casual sex are 100% physical while my standards for dating are much more well rounded.

Translation: To make my pussy wet, you need to be a tall White alpha male with 6-pack abs. But if we're going to be in a relationship, you need to have a 6-figure salary and the ability to change my baby's diapers.

If anything, I think being attractive is working against me. When I was in my 20s looking for a husband, I was a hot commodity within my small sphere. It was easy to find someone to date and then marry. As an openly kinky divorcee, it is easy to find men who want to fuck. But I believe there is a skill set that other women have that allows them to determine when a man has LTR intentions and when he is just saying all of of the right things to get in my pants - that is a skill set I do not have. I just realized as I wrote this that I was hoping something in this thread would help me start to develop those skills.

Translation: I'm so used to receiving tons of attention from males and having everything handed to me on a gold platter simply because of my vagina. I just don't know how to deal with the world now that I don't have this get-out-of-jail-free card anymore! Help!

And when someone dared mention that her humongous partner count was a turnoff...

I disagree about the obscene amount of partners. I know you are going to respond within moments with something or other that loosely equates to slut shaming. But for all the young ladies out there who embrace their sexuality or have kids - you aren't shit out of luck. Just make sure you date people who provide substantial answers to forum questions instead of spouting puritanical ideals.

Here comes the hamster. This is so rich. This woman is a complete romantic failure. Divorced, can't keep a man for more than a week. And yet she finds it in her to lash out at men providing realistic advice - telling them to go to hell and telling other women to follow her example. Because girl powah!

And she further tries to justify why all 100 men in that thread are wrong when they tell her she's undatable:

Yes i do. I think my education and career add to my quality. I think my volunteer and humanitarian work add to my quality. I think the fact that I'm well read and cultured as well as well traveled add to my quality. I also cook, sing and i am extremely athletic.

Behold solipsism. She values a man who's well-read and cultured and humanitarian and educated and blah blah blah... so therefore the opposite must also be true! Sorry, honey. The main turnon for men is whether you're feminine and whether you're thin. That's it. Nobody gives a shit about how many countries you've traveled to.

TL;DR: This is what happens when you try to explain reality to a postwall woman who's sinking fast. She will remain in denial all the way to her last breath, hoping that feminism will rescue her and provide her with a docile beta male who doesn't care about her past.

[–]evileddy 287 points288 points  (42 children)

I think being attractive is working against me.


The ego on this one has been ruined by a foot ball stadium of Chads.

[–][deleted] 119 points120 points  (13 children)

It's like answering that canned interview question, "What is your biggest weakness?" with a canned response that tries to twist the weakness into a strength. "I'm just too attractive, gosh darn-it!"

But there is actually a kind of truth in her response. Her attractiveness brings all the Chads to the yard. But she has no logic to be able to sift through them to find an appropriate partner. Her decisions are made emotionally. Couple that with the fact that fucking as many guys as she wants is the sign of an empowered woman (cough) and you have a woman who has absolutely no idea how to find someone to settle down with.

Of course, she doesn't even notice the betas. All she sees are Chads. And naturally, Chads don't want to marry her. So, she's confused: "I'm fucking all these guys, which obviously means I'm a great woman and attractive, but none of them want to marry me! What's wrong?" She has no idea that her behavior is antithetical for a good LTR. It's like she's choking herself and asking why it's getting harder to breathe.

The solution, of course, would have been to have limited her sex to one good match right from the onset, rather than unleashing her vagina into the world and leaving a slimy trail of Chads in her wake.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's like she's choking herself and asking why it's getting harder to breathe.

Well it might help if she took the dick out of her throat...

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      [–]woofitout 24 points25 points  (0 children)

      Physical attraction = emotional stimulus.

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        [–]failureToSend 10 points11 points  (1 child)


        That's exactly what I was thinking as well - there are few females that manage to maintain a high-level of attractiveness into their 30s while having children, and those are usually genetic freaks (e.g, super models who usually also have professionally done makeup and physical trainers/dietitians). But society has misled this person to believe that she's just as attractive as she was at 19 because she's a woman and a mother resulting in her massive ego and entitlement.

        [–]BlackHeart89 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        There's no fucking way a 36 year old with kids is really attractive.

        Nah man. I see it every now and then. Really tight bodies and dress well. I see them in work out clothes shopping. Its not common. But I see it.

        Even so, Chads will fuck below them.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Very true. And don't forget that kids bring that 7 down to a 4. Maybe there is one complete beta ho saviour willing to marry her at this point, but she'll end up cheating on him.

        [–]1Soarinc 20 points21 points  (2 children)

        I know it might be silly but one of my favorite things about reddit and TRP is the term "Chad" and it's many appearances when reading threads here!

        [–]ReclusiveHermit 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        We got "Chad" from 4chan. 4chan is basically the original red pill.

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          [–]Newdist2 112 points113 points  (1 child)

          "train" is the word you're looking for.

          [–]Pornography_saves_li 37 points38 points  (0 children)

          A 'stadium of Chads', i like that. Kind of like 'a murder of crows'.

          [–]account_rp 4 points5 points  (5 children)

          Could anyone who is actually named Chad tell us what you think of the term "Chad Thundercock" and how it's used?

          [–]AEther_Flux 9 points10 points  (2 children)

          The only Chad I knew got so incredibly shitfaced at a house party of mine that he pissed all over my couch while some Uggo was still sleeping on it. I woke up to screaming/crying like the world had ripped apart.

          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          Too attractive or the old stand by, "Men are just intimidated by a strong independent woman."

          Well, if you are so strong and independent why do you need a man in the first place? Maybe they aren't intimidated but strong and independent themselves and therefore you natural repel each other like two positive ends of magnets.

          [–]DarkisKnight 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Her hamster has gone pro.

          [–]ItIsMyPrivilege 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          The ego that upgrading chads in the AF department creates in a women's mind is unreal. They keep trying to fuck better and better chads only to one day realize they are a hard 6.3 lol and all they can get is Louis CK without standup, fame, and a personality hahah

          [–]1London-Bananas 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Including the football team

          [–]B_uckets 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          She was soooooo close to figuring it out, but then the hamster jumped to Ludicrous Speed.

          I think being attractive is working against me. When I was in my 20s looking for a husband, I was a hot commodity within my small sphere. It was easy to find someone to date and then marry.

          Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but being 36 with kids is what's working against you. Whatever beauty you may have left will soon fade, and then you'll just be another entitled slut with a hyper-inflated sense of self-worth and tons of baggage.

          [–]1sardinemanR 146 points147 points  (17 children)

          It always amuses me that modern women just completely cannot fathom that men would have standards and are entitled to their own choices and preferences. They are just convinced their pussy pass is a lifetime privilege that entitles them to awful behavior at all times and men must fulfill their every demand.

          Now the 36 year old failures at this level aren't quite that common. Most women figure out by their late-20s that high SMV men especially can not be locked down. Those are the average women. The smarter and more attractive women tend to lock a man down by their mid-20s.

          Even the Ancient Greek women complained nobody wanted a woman over 30 haha.

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 55 points56 points  (2 children)

          It always amuses me that modern women just completely cannot fathom that men would have standards and are entitled to their own choices and preferences. They are just convinced their pussy pass is a lifetime privilege that entitles them to awful behavior at all times and men must fulfill their every demand.

          It's a combination of "men and women are equal and the same" combined with absolute privilege. Women are always right, men are only right when they agree with women.

          Hence woman says "men should marry an old whale", all the other hamsters agree, and women end up believing it. Men disagreeing are wrong. It's consensus by feelz. What feelz good is right, what's right is what feelz good.

          Facts? Facts my fucking ass.

          [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (5 children)

          Even the Ancient Greek women complained nobody wanted a woman over 30

          Do you have a reference for that? I'm genuinely curious.

          From what I know of history, ancient Greek women married in their late teens if they were low class and early 20s if they were upper class. That goes along with what you're saying, but I'd like to read more if you have a link.

          [–]1sardinemanR 20 points21 points  (1 child)

          I think you can find a reference in Lysistrata, the play. And there's a bunch of other whining in Sparta about the wars related to that. I remember reading some texts in analysis back in college, but it's been a long time since I was in college.

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Fair enough. Lysistrata is a funny play, especially in a Red Pill context. Unfortunately, the joke is lost a bit in modern times where that manipulation is currently acceptable.

          [–]StotheGG 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Greek marriage customers were very particular to the city. Certainly, a later marriage was a custom in Sparta. In Athens, on the other hand, a woman of a good family would absolutely have been married by her mid-teens.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 15 points16 points  (1 child)

          convinced their pussy pass is a lifetime privilege

          She thinks she's holding aces just because she's fuckable. Never bothered to develop Girl Game beyond her peanut butter legs. And now she has those Golddigger Eyes and complains she's stuck in the fuck-zone.

          Some Beta Bob will fall for her Wholesome Pretender routine, and give her the soft landing she doesn't deserve. But she'll fuck that up chasing Chads again.

          [–]ztsmart 27 points28 points  (1 child)

          The PussyPass comes with an expiration date

          [–]1aguy01 5 points6 points  (3 children)

          Society is lying to women as much as it's lying to men. Men get told 'be yourself, don't be mean, nobody likes a jerk. Always put the woman first!' which is wrong, and women are told 'you should have a career in your 20's and party and not worry about a husband until your 30's!' Both end up being incompetent partners and unhappy.

          [–]JackGoldsteinWrites 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Be yourself is GREAT advice... believe it or not, most of us are suppressing our innate jerk! That's the problem.

          [–]SexistFlyingPig 107 points108 points  (1 child)

          This is hilarious. "I really want to find someone to settle down with" "Oh, no more Tinder. That's going to be hard."

          This hamster has three olympic gold medals.

          [–]TruthNotFeelings 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          Of course it'll be hard. Her only source of validation without tinder is her self compliments.

          [–]brokenshelf 49 points50 points  (2 children)

          I saw that thread and bailed after "36 with kids". Noooo thank you.

          [–]DodgedAFew 43 points44 points  (1 child)


          Holy shit, I did not notice the s!

          [–]Absinthe99 24 points25 points  (0 children)


          Holy shit, I did not notice the s!

          And since it wasn't clarified as two kids (or "both of my kids") that probably means at least 3, possibly 4 or more.

          Seriously, in my experience a single mom with A child (one and only one kid) will always clarify it as "my kid" (singular); and if she has two, she will make that explicitly clear, either by literally stating the number "two kids" or using the word "both" as in "both of my kids".

          Because she knows to say "kids" (plural) without that explicit clarification implies more than two, and she doesn't want to flat out lie and say "kid" or "two/both" when in fact there are 3+... at the same time she knows that to say "my THREE kids" or "my FOUR kids" is even more of an instant deal-breaker (even scares off ONS hookups --because that chick is dangerously fertile, she's already got a frigging litter).

          [–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (2 children)

          I see cats and game shows in her future.

          [–]Absinthe99 30 points31 points  (1 child)

          Or some dude named Julio who bitch slaps her, but who was willing to hitch up with her because... green card.

          [–]Leavism 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Her future was so dumb I pronounced Julio with a hard jay sound

          [–]iambecomedownvote 39 points40 points  (7 children)

          Yeah I think a lot of dudes just got banned from posting to AskBetas.

          [–]Lipophobicity 19 points20 points  (5 children)

          I probably had the harshest response in that thread and it seems like I am not banned

          [–]TheMountainWhoDews 19 points20 points  (4 children)

          Stalked your comment history, did not disappoint.

          What do you bring to the table?

          [–]1DRMMR76 17 points18 points  (3 children)

          That is probably the first time in her life she's ever been asked that. And the problem is, it's a question she should have been asking herself when she was 15, getting prepared to enter the dating and marriage arena. Just like how women were brought up in generations past, by their mothers and grandmothers no less. Some of the biggest critics of young women and girls were older women and girls "How do you think you're ever going to find a husband doing _____?". It was drummed into women by their older female role models. They knew that their ability to attract a high value man was directly connected to what value they brought to the relationship. So women were taught how to cook, clean, be obedient, loving, and faithful wives from a young age. We don't have that any more. Moms don't teach their daughters how to grow into a woman worth marrying and thus women never ask themselves "why would a man want me?". They take it as a forgone conclusion that being a women naturally means they get everything they want, because they've been socially enabled to do that from their teens on, or earlier. Women start feeling the effects of the pussy pass from the first time they throw dirt at a boy on the playground and nothing happens, and yet when the boy throws dirt back, he gets a time out. From there it's a fun roller coaster of free drinks, cutting in lines, never having to carry anything heavy, etc. When it comes time to marry, they just think "I'm a woman, where's my husband that should have been waiting for me to be ready to marry him all this time?"

          [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          That is probably the first time in her life she's ever been asked that. And the problem is, it's a question she should have been asking herself when she was 15, getting prepared to enter the dating and marriage arena.

          It's funny how oblivious women are to this. Here's what I wrote at askmen in a post that argued how ridiculously easy it is for women having sex.

          Yesterday I had a conversation with an FWB about that. A friend of hers (mid to late 30s, okay-ish face, but overweight and short-haired) recently got out of a relationship but can't get away from the guy, but also doesn't get many great offers otherwise that help her get distance. I insinuated that she might do better if she lost weight and let her hair grow, but then my FWB insisted that she was happy with short hair, and that being "forced" to change your look won't do one much good if it doesn't come from the inside - and that you don't have to be that pretty to date anyway, since there were loads of couples out there where both were equally non-awesome (not her words, but that's what she was getting to). I answered that this might very well be true, but that doesn't change the fact that even average people aim higher than they can realistically get, and that being good-looking is always a perk in that regard - just liking the way you look isn't enough if others don't share that sentiment, and you can't expect people to love you for "who you are" if you don't register as a potential serious partner in the first place. Besides, I asked why it was so strange that men who were handsome enough to be able to afford to have standards wouldn't go for the inconspicious nice girl, but went for an equally likable but more attractive woman instead - though it was no surprise that they were happy with having just sex with the former.

          She conceded that yes, women have it easier getting offers for just sex, but for her friend this didn't do her much good since she had done the casual online dating stuff during her 20s to no avail (she had her first actual - and actually mediocre - boyfriend at 29 after having constantly failed doing that, and that guy was also one she according to my fwb would never have considered dating had she met him online and not in real life). Sure, she got to sleep with extremely handsome guys who hit on her, but for her (my FWB, not her friend) this would never have been an option since she didn't want to have to constantly doubt how she rates on his priority list. I turned this around and said that her friend apparently didn't have these doubts but thought that she could get guys (who were considerably out of her league) to commit to her just by putting out - and that when trying that she didn't want to compromise her standards either.

          (quote ended) Now mind you, this friend is not only not hot stuff, but also from the stories I've heard about her not the sharpest tool in the drawer and not terribly interesting on top of that.

          For example, not only did she believe she had a magic vagina and equated the willingness to fuck her with the willingness to date her, but she's also not terribly social: after she broke up with her first serious boyfriend (the one she met at a bar) 3 years later, she dated another guy she met in the swinger community (btw: also a guy who was average as well). However, that guy was indeed passionate about swinging and didn't want to be locked down for good, while she wanted to be his "one and only" (it's interesting how a woman can reconcile their desire for exclusive commitment and having a partner devoted to her with her vagina basically being FFA as long as she's not in a relationship). Now for the last year they've basically been downgraded to an FWB-style relationship that isn't good for her emotional wellbeing, yet she is incapable of getting out of it because she's too attached to him (sunk cost fallacy ftw!). Which is also due to the fact that the guy and my FWB are practically her social support network because she lost contact with most other friends.

          To sum it up:

          • she has wasted away her 20s fucking around hot guys who immediately bailed without ever learning; when not in a relationship, she further racks up her partner count when swinging. In other words: allt he bad stuff TRP says about slutty women (their outrageous n-counts, them being spoiled by too much alpha cock etc.) is probably darned accurate in her case
          • overall she looks below average and lacks the willingness to try to improve in that regard (she might have been a 7 in her prime had she ever really tried, but alas she didn't)
          • she can't be too bright
          • she isn't too social
          • yet for some obscure reason she thinks that she's a great enough to be a guy's princess (and actually thought she'd be great enough to be a great guy's princess back then)

          This is also a woman who was never asked "what do you bring to the table for a relationship?" She's high demand and probably high maintenance but low value, and I doubt anyone ever really told her that.

          [–]dicklord_airplane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          nah, you have to try way harder than that to get banned there. the mods really don't care that much.

          [–]quelques_heures 38 points39 points  (6 children)

          This just gets me thinking that women, in general, are so accustomed to being the "winners" in the mating game, that when they hit the wall they literally cannot believe it.

          Even from a young age their expectation is getting lots of attention for the fact that they have a pussy. There's such a disparity in that regard between women and men.

          A man has to be on top of his game, fit, hygienic, clean cut, just to get a chance at some pussy. Meanwhile, even a fugly girl just has to show-up to get laid.

          Seriously, she doesn't shave her pussy, take a shower, or even wear clean clothes and she'll still find someone willing to fuck her.

          Just imagine having that ability: you can do less than the bare minimum to attract a mate, and there's still people lining up to fuck you? And that's your life from when you're 12 until you hit your mid 30's.

          And then one day it comes to an end and they literally cannot believe it. "What? You're saying I'm not hot shit any more just because I'm 35?! So sexist!"

          [–]sir_wankalot_here 18 points19 points  (5 children)

          Let's say you had two women, both 35 and both about the same looks. Woman A has 3 kids which she expects you to support and a mile worth of cock driven through her. Woman B has no kids and did not have a mile of cock driven through her.

          Which would you choose ?

          [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 8 points9 points  (3 children)

          Trick question! They're still both 35.

          Okay, that was the obligatory asshole response, but seriously: I intend to have children. Not now, but at some point. I certainly won't start dating a 35 year old if I have options because dating a 35 year old means that I can most likely forget having children.

          [–]sir_wankalot_here 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          Well it depends on your age. I am a wee bit older then 35, and younger women are more immature. Also I already have kids.

          Woman A obviously has poor impulse control, and is a disaster waiting to happen. While Woman B has better impulse control, probably is better off financially, has a career etc.

          [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Well it depends on your age. I am a wee bit older then 35, and younger women are more immature. Also I already have kids.

          Okay, I can accept that. But the thing is, even if you lack an abundance of options: if you don't have children yet there is literally no reason to wive up a woman who already has some and is beyond her fertile years. If you don't want children, you certainly don't want to take care of some other guy's brats. If you do want children, you probably want your own which means that even if you are willing to date a single mom, she should at least be willing to have a few of yours as well.

          [–]BallisticTherapy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          a mile worth of cock driven through her

          A mile? More like 500 miles (of Mr. Right)!


          [–][deleted] 70 points71 points  (60 children)

          I'm genuinely suprised at the amount of redpill answers from what is usually a BP cesspool. Maybe because her example is so extreme?

          [–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (10 children)

          No, in the past year I have noticed more and more redpill awareness in the mainstream. The Internet is the most powerful and fastest ways to share information. Nowadays people can compare and contrast ideas all over the world and come to a conclusions at unprecedented speeds. And the truth might be bitter but once you swallow the pill it becomes addicting. Look at any video with intergender controversy on YouTube and the comments are filled with redpill defense against feminized thinking. Our next big challenge is not feminist thinking, but women and white knights who act like they support redpill but are actually still pushing the feminine imperative. One of the more experienced posters should a dress this topic.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Well YouTube is a different world to Reddit. People actually have a backbone on that site.....good luck finding much of that on reddit

          [–]ZioFascist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          the paradigm shift is indeed changing. factor that in that many young men are being marginalized ..and the matrix becomes undone. boom!

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            [–]newls 4 points5 points  (3 children)

            Earlier today on the radio a sports journalist said, albeit with some caution and hesitation, that the Dr. Caneiro furore going on at the moment has been grossly over-sensationalised by the media because she's a woman.

            I was very surprised to hear that on public radio, I mean he basically hit the nail on the head. If Dr. Caneiro was a bloke the media storm would never have happened. This was the BBC too, a bastion of socialist bias.

            [–]PaulAJK 14 points15 points  (1 child)

            This was the BBC too, a bastion of socialist bias.

            The BBC doesn't have a socialist bias, rather it's ulta social-liberal. They're not economically left at all, but upper middle class ecomically centre right metroplitan liberals.

            [–]newls 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Yep I think you're right actually, I oversimplified the politics. But there is definitely a bias there.

            [–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (37 children)

            "True" conservatism has been seeping through the cracks made by the sjw's for the past year or so now. Look at Trump for instance, he is Red Pill to a tee and they can't touch him, you have the women hamstering over why people still support him but obviously they are completely wrong. I think the republican/conservative party of america tried to solve the liberal crisis of the 70's by jump starting american values but mobilizing the religious vote, starting the war on drugs, and amping up anti homophobic sentiment but those have all been proven to be failures. We still are seeing the backlash of those 3 decisions and once we can get the conservative party away from big business we might actually start seeing a functional country again.

            [–]chadeusmaximus 26 points27 points  (34 children)

            he is Red Pill to a tee and they can't touch him,

            This actually makes sense to me. Trump has been saying alot of shit on the news, and people are saying that he's gonna lose the presidency just because he offended some people.

            Much like the Rock, Trump doesn't give a shit what you think. The man has an opinion, he says it, and doesn't feel the need to apologize. Next topic.

            Did I... just become a Trump supporter?

            [–]alf_alf_a 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            Here is the genius of Trump's approach. If you are normally a safe, quiet, inoffensive candidate (like say, a Mitt Romney) and then say one mildly-offensive thing, or something that gets taken out of context (like Mitt Romney's "I don't care about the very poor..."), then the media keeps hammering you with that one quote and you have to apologize.

            But. What if you say HUNDREDS of things that are DELIBERATELY offensive? (And yes, Trump has made literally hundreds of outlandish statements, look at his Twitter.) It is impossible for the media to pin him down on that "one quote" like they could with Romney. Show them a single tree, and they chop it down. Show them a forest, and they don't know where to start.

            The other genius of Trump's approach is that he is constantly creating "fake controversy," which not only serves to draw attention to himself, but also distracts from the real issue. Consider the GOP debate on Fox. Megan Kelly begins the debate by targeting Trump, and basically saying, "You're a misogynist, what do you have to say for yourself?" And Trump gets to respond by saying, "That's a dumb question and you're a dumb person for asking it." And everyone goes, "Yeah, that is a dumb question! Boo, Megan Kelly!" Because the only thing that regular people hate more than politicians, is the media.

            Now, consider if Donald Trump wasn't constantly saying outlandish statements and created this trump among the media that "Donald Trump is a huge misogynist!" The first question of the debate might have been a real issue, like "Mr. Trump, you've declared bankruptcy four times. Why should we trust our nation's economy to someone with that kind of history?" Or tried to corner him on some real issue. But by constantly drawing the cloud of FAKE CONTROVERSY around himself, Trump avoids ever getting questioned on real issues

            [–]1London-Bananas 17 points18 points  (2 children)

            I think we are generally seeing, at least from the male perspective, a return to conservatism and a deviation from the feminist standard.

            With the rise of the internet and especially places like reddit or 4chan, a lot of people now at least vaguely understand AF/BB and ridiculous partner counts. Millions of young guys learned about the friendzone and about "nice guys", and were usually on the wrong side of it. Even a beta hates to be cucked, but it's much harder to accept it when the evidence is all around you.

            4chan has a userbase consisting almost solely of young white men, and even though they started out progressively in their early years, they have become more and more conservative, slut shaming and pleading to bring back a sane marriage system. That's an entire generation at least half unplugged

            [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

            They can only supress the truth for so long. At some point a guy is gonna say: wait she fucked 200 guys, and turned my type down in that time, and now I'm supposed to be okay with it and support her and possible let her take MY money when she's "ready to settle" for me?

            [–]Planner_Hammish 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            I always get heavily downvoted on askmen whenever I give dating advice, even if I don't use rp terminology.

            [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Then you're doing something wrong - RPish comments are accepted as long as they aren't recognizable as such. These are a few comments of mine in the askmen-sub.

            • /comments/2uufaw/men_and_boys_under_25_is_it_a_turnoff_if_a_woman/cobwlme?context=3
            • /comments/3h3fd3/how_would_you_feel_about_being_a_womans_lowered/cu3zhge
            • /comments/3d494b/askmen_what_are_some_relationship_red_flags/ct1nn1w?context=3
            • /comments/350g9v/what_do_a_lot_of_women_misunderstand_about_the/cr0155z
            • /comments/337dpc/why_is_being_husband_material_considered/cqie7i7?context=3
            • /comments/2lgwlb/satire_time_see_who_can_create_the_most/clussg4?context=3
            • /comments/32vsah/intersectionality_how_are_men_oppressed_in_our/cqf9kx4?context=3
            • /comments/2w4fop/what_do_you_think_women_should_try_so_that_they/coo7ija
            • /comments/2cug60/men_and_women_differences_between_male_and_female/cjjbszt?context=3
            • /comments/2wb0nv/what_is_the_one_type_of_girl_you_will_never_ever/cop829f?context=3
            • /comments/350g9v/what_do_a_lot_of_women_misunderstand_about_the/cr01c9n?context=3
            • /comments/350g9v/what_do_a_lot_of_women_misunderstand_about_the/cr00tvn?context=3

            [–][deleted]  (12 children)


            [–]newls 42 points43 points  (1 child)

            It's popular because it goes along with the popular feminist trope/tripe platitude that women can have multiple opposite and largely mutually exclusive things. You can be a slut and a good catch! You can be a man and a woman! You can be black and white! You can be left and right!

            [–][deleted] 89 points90 points  (5 children)

            Alpha personality

            1) Regardless of gender I don't believe alphas ever have to communicate that they are in fact alpha.

            2) An alpha wouldn't have made that post.

            Slept with very beautiful people

            1) Validating herself to complete strangers.

            [–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

            her post and comments really come off as pathetically desperate and psychotic


            [–]TheMountainWhoDews 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            This is right on the money.

            [–]allfunkedout 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            proof that she's only a fraction of the woman she's claiming to be.

            [–]1aguy01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Women can attempt to emulate alpha males, and perhaps be alpha in relation to other females, but they are incapable of being 'alpha'.

            [–]Squeezymypenisy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Most redpill response to her comments was theordores 9 or something. He defined what men look for in a wifetype vs a sluttype.

            [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 63 points64 points  (23 children)

            Sorry, honey. The main turnon for men is whether you're feminine and whether you're thin. That's it. Nobody gives a shit about how many countries you've traveled to.

            Big time. Same with her education. No man ever said, "Baby, that women's studies degree looks soooooooo sexy on you!"

            [–]1OneRedYear 33 points34 points  (9 children)

            If men thought like women, Oprah would be the hottest woman on earth. 3 billion dollars net worth sooooooooo sexy!

            [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 24 points25 points  (6 children)

            "I'm pretty at any size"--delusional fatties, everywhere.

            Women can make themselves believe fucking anything.

            The Dove "Real Beauty" campaign*? It should be called the Dove Real Fattie campaign. It's about selling soap to fat chicks by telling them that they have 'real beauty'. WRONG-O.

            The problem that these women have is, in the World of Men, what MEN want fucking matters. So Delusional Fattie Girl is only going to get pumped and dumped by a desperate/drunk guy who, when hosed about it by his buddies is going to say "Had Sex, Don't Care". They are NOT going to have Chads and Biffs falling all over them b/c they're so 'Beautiful'.

            Uncle Vasya

            *Warning: do not google this for at least 45 minutes after a meal.

            [–]ChairBorneMGTOW 8 points9 points  (2 children)

            It's a smart market to appeal to for Dove, honestly. Fatties have significantly more surface area and get sweaty when they climb a single flight of stairs; ergo they use up a bar of soap faster than a normal human.

            [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I'm not arguing the marketing strategy, just the delusion on the part of the shoggoths.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Big time. Same with her education. No man ever said, "Baby, that women's studies degree looks soooooooo sexy on you!"

            I got a good laugh out of that one... this should be framed and put on a wall somewhere.

            [–]ztsmart 13 points14 points  (11 children)

            Personally I prefer intellectual and well-educated women. Having a stupid or LSV woman around you can negatively impact your SV as a man. Also, dumb girls are boring

            [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 32 points33 points  (9 children)

            But first they have to pass the boner test. Education, etc., in and of itself, does not raise a woman's SMV. Show me fat chick with a masters from Harvard, and I'm still not going to want to bang her.

            [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (6 children)

            I always find it interesting how people cope with the idea that their value as person is largely dependent on their utility to others, or in the case of intergender relations their SMV. When she is told that her value has fallen and alpha men aren't going to be interested in her there was a female cohort quick to rush in and tell her that "humans aren't stocks". As if that changes anything.


            It looks like a big metal phone booth that takes you back in time so you can live a completely different life

            I laughed.

            [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            That's female doublethink for you. "Humans aren't stocks" when it's about them being a bad investment due to their lacking utility for others. When it comes to them feeling attracted to men (and the fact that wealthy, handsome and ripped men do far better than guys who are none of the three), it's always because these guys have such a great personality.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

            So a man's job doesn't matter to a woman, then?

            [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

            interesting point: the job does not directly matter but only indirectl by how much money the job allows to spend on her - aka utility value. A frugal guy with high paying job is bad. A non-working heir buying expensive gifts is good. A guy with low paying job is normally low potential because even if he wanted he can't buy expensive useless shit. Unless he is a med student - then catching him before the doctor salary is a good strategy since he can be divorced any time if it doesn't work out with no negative consequences for the woman. If in doubt she can date another hipot claiming the future doctor wasn't attentive enough to her emotional needs.

            [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

            It's the ability to buy expensive shit as well as the prestige, I think.

            [–]Life_Can_Be_Simple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Expensive shit she'll probably never use.

            [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            So a man's job doesn't matter to a woman, then?

            You job doesn't matter so long as it's good enough...

            [–][deleted]  (1 child)


            [–]TheSKSpecial 24 points25 points  (0 children)

            The "Art Of Whore" post really should be sidebar material.

            It always amazes me how betas will agree with a woman that her past education reveals her dedication to scholarly pursuits, her past work experience reveals her quest to improve her business acumen, her past payment history reveals her credit worthiness, her past workout routine reveals her desire for a healthy lifestyle, and her past volunteer efforts reveal her heart of gold, but her past sexual habits reveal absolutely nothing. That, my beta friend, is The Art of Whore.

            [–]aa223 23 points24 points  (3 children)

            So why the fuck did she ask in the first place if she can't be open to criticism and advice? I mean was she trying to gain that last piece of validation from men online who could listen to her woes as a 36 year old woman? I mean if she wants validation, she is better off asking other women rather than men or even men who are really beta.

            [–]TheSKSpecial 24 points25 points  (0 children)

            She didn't want criticism and advice, she wanted validation. She wanted the men there to kiss her ass and tell her she's just fine the way she is and that all the men who aren't committing to her are the bad guys.

            99% of the time a woman asking for advice really just wants somebody to suck up to her and tell her everyone else is wrong.

            EDIT: and apparently the mods there wanted the same thing

            [–]Squeezymypenisy 22 points23 points  (0 children)

            And then she goes on to insult the guys there when she doesn't ge the answers she wants.

            [–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator 24 points25 points  (2 children)

            So basically she's saying that the REAL reason she can't find LTR's is because she just isn't good enough at spotting the difference between guys who just want to fuck her, and guys who want to date...

            The Hamster is real.

            [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

            That's because there is just one kind...guys that want to fuck her.

            [–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            If men are just using her for her pussy, maybe all her value is in her pussy. Seems like she's unwilling to admit that SHE'S the problem.

            [–]r1chten 40 points41 points  (16 children)

            Thank you. No more tinder - check. That's gonna be hard.

            not surprised the hamster cant find chad's that she can lock down through tinder

            Men in their 30s and 40s without kids have a really difficult time dating single moms.

            oh 'men' are the issue, not her high n count and men refusing to being cuckolded.

            [–]chadeusmaximus 63 points64 points  (12 children)

            Men in their 30s and 40s without kids have a really difficult time dating single moms.

            Can confirm. 39 year old Male, with no children. Won't even look at a single mother. Automatic disqualification in my book.

            [–]1OneRedYear 15 points16 points  (0 children)

            Over 30 male with a child. Still not interested in dating a single mother. Would bang if fit tho.

            [–][deleted]  (5 children)


              [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children)

              Some dude I went to high school with brags about taking over "daddy role" for his slut girlfriend's children all over FB because the dad dipped out. He's only 27.

              He has no idea that people are probably laughing at him, think he's a sucker, and wonder why the fuck he would commit to that responsibility. What a moron.

              [–]Life_Can_Be_Simple 13 points14 points  (1 child)

              lol I know a guy who's only 22 and he already taking care of two brats that aren't his. Now he has a kid with her. fucked for life.

              [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              I know an interesting case of an overall pretty alpha guy who married a single mom - but he was 18 when they got together and she's 7 or 8 years his senior, so I guess her relationship experience and mastery of the venusian arts coupled with his lack of maturity was probably what won him over.

              [–]TRP VanguardCyralea 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              You'd be surprised how thirsty men can be. A man travelling through a desert will happily drink water from a used construction boot.

              Makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it.

              [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              The universal "would I date a single mom"-check:

              The "would she date me"-check:

              • Option 1: She is out of my league. In other words, she wouldn't date me if she had no kids. I won't date her.
              • Option 2: She isn't out of my league. In other words, I can also find a comparable woman without kids. I won't date her.

              The "is she a good partner and mother"-check:

              • Option 1: She prioritizes her children and their happiness above anything else. This makes her a bad partner, especially to a guy who isn't the father of her children. I won't date her.
              • Option 2: She prioritizes her own happiness above anything else. This makes her a bad mother, since she's prone to dating assholes or neglectful guys who don't give a shit about the kids. I won't date her.

              [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              It's interesting how quick they are to lock you down, though.

              I met (and hooked up) with a single mom on a hookup site and the next day after we had sex she immediately wanted to know where we are going (read: wanted to make sure we're on a relationship trajectory). As I said that I hadn't made up my mind yet, she bailed on the spot.

              I mean, I can respect her decision, but the fact that she thought I just waited for to date her without knowing her really that well was kinda glorious.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              she bailed on the spot.

              She thought that giving out sex would make your decision automatic.

              [–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision 93 points94 points  (12 children)

              The reality is that it's her against her; which is the struggle for most women.

              It sounds like she is retained her beauty, as much as a 36-year-old can, and if so the reality of the situation is that for most thirsty beta-males, her partner count won't matter; when she says that she can't differentiate between a man becoming interested in her long-term or a man just trying to fuck her, it's because she can't bear to deviate from the high(er) sexual market value men who would never date her, and give Betamax Barry a chance who would probably cut off a pinky to have a relationship with her.

              The real damage of the carousel is how entitled she feels to the high sexual market value men who only want her for sex, thereby making Average Alan seem like a retarded pedophile.

              [–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (5 children)

              Women only have how they feel and how they think they feel, hypergamy doesn't shut off so once she gets with one chad it is all her body thinks it deserves. Meanwhile the chad just wanted sex and now she can't bring herself to date any lower because thats just how a woman's body works. Dating around is terrible forewomen because it only takes one horny chad to complete screw her dating value for life

              [–]RPSigmaStigma 7 points8 points  (4 children)

              Women only have how they feel and how they think they feel

              Holy shit, this is so true. I've never put it together like that, but as soon as I read it something clicked in my head. I feel like I just took the red pill all over again.

              [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

              Its something that was posted a week or two ago. It was a post about why women hate betas that try and pick them up. Chads make women feel special so they reciprocate, betas make women feel bad about themselves so women treat them poorly. If I find the post i will update you.

              [–]Absinthe99 7 points8 points  (4 children)

              It sounds like she is retained her beauty, as much as a 36-year-old can,

              For now... gravity and mileage are going to start busting through all of that within the next 5 years, guaranteed. She's got two choices really, either accept that and learn to age gracefully, or else she's going to go full bore with things like botox, & etc in a vain attempt to try "keep" looking young.

              Plus, her kids (she has multiple, she used the plural so it's at least 2, possibly 3+) are going to be hitting prime "teenage" years very soon -- seems she married and had them in early-mid 20's -- so I'd bet the oldest either just became a teenager, or is on the cusp of it. Regardless, during the next decade she's going to have a household full of "angsty/bitchy" teens...

              That's going to take a toll on her looks, on her wallet, on her dating possibilities.

              And it's pretty much going to guarantee that no SANE man will want to be anywhere near (young kids, preteen, can be cute and "endearing" and help to tray some gullible type -- angsty, angry, bitchy teens ... are a different story entirely).

              [–]IwillDieForMetal 16 points17 points  (1 child)

              Regardless, during the next decade she's going to have a household full of "angsty/bitchy" teens...

              That's going to take a toll on her looks, on her wallet, on her dating possibilities.

              Maybe she will be one of those "cool moms" who let the kids drink, smoke, etc at her house. Meanwhile she will fuck the alpha teenagers (or attempt to)

              [–]wont_tell_i_refuse 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              An attractive 20-something guy might try to fuck the angsty, bitchy teen (in the heights of her "bad boy" phase) and get locked in by the mom pulling the Stifler's Mom routine and convincing him she's the best lover he's ever likely to have.

              That may be unrealistic, but it sounds like her best shot.

              [–]DodgedAFew 17 points18 points  (3 children)

              Thank you. No more tinder - check. That's gonna be hard.

              I bet it will be, wink-wink.

              [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

              ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

              "Thank you. No more tinder - check. That's gonna be hard."

              ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

              ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

              [–]SexistFlyingPig 17 points18 points  (4 children)

              Talking about partner count brings up a really good point that someone in a different thread mentioned: If you've had sex twice a day for 10 years, but it's only been with a couple of guys, that suits me just fine. But if you've had sex twice with a different guy every day for the past 10 years, that's going to be a very big problem.

              Here's the thing: I'm no 'catch' physically. I'm working on it, but I recognize where I am right now. There's no fucking way I'm going to settle down with a hottie with a 3 digit partner count. If I'm not good looking and can have these standards, when what standards do you think someone good looking is going to have? (btw, it's great that you're independently wealthy, but is that money somehow magically going to become mine?)

              [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

              Seriously disregarding high risk of her vagina being diseased

              (1.2 million Americans have HIV/AIDS; 1 in 8 are unaware they have it; 50,000 new diagnoses per year. 1 in 6 people have genital herpes.)

              If a woman has a high partner count, it demonstrates her lack of ability to be monogamous. This covers everything under the sun from being faithful to her man to working through arguments and fights in a productive manner. They're also detrimental to children because if by chance they become pregnant, a child is more likely to have some issues socially, mentally, and with behavior growing up in a single parent household.

              [–]Absinthe99 30 points31 points  (5 children)

              ROTFLMAO, they "cleansed" the entire thread. Completely -- literally wiped out every single comment.

              How hilarious is it to read that she's 36 years old, with kids no less (meaning "mommy" is soon going to be giving dating advice, etc her little collection of Janey and/or Johnny crotchspawn) -- and claims to have an "alpha personality", etc etc... yet she also claims: "i don't really have any idea what it looks like to date for love or be in a real relationship."

              Oh, and she's "I am nearing the point where I'd like to have a more substantial relationship -- nearing... but not quite there yet (not sure she doesn't want ust a couple of more rounds on the old CC before she'll be willing to "settle down" ... with some "lucky" guy... HA!.)

              Also got a kick out of one of her comments ITT: "I've seen that while I've been out dating. But my standards for casual sex are 100% physical while my standards for dating are much more well rounded." And by "well rounded" meaning she wants some beta-simp WASP with a mansion, multiple vacation homes, some solid business assets or investments (preferably a CEO type, some high-tech incel neckbeard nerd would be ideal), a thick wallet filled with cash and lots of credit cards, etc. -- whereas when it comes to "fuck & suck time" she prefers Juan the pool boy, or Chad the biker-druggie (you know, the "beautiful people", LOL).

              And yet she thinks that -- somehow -- she ought to still be viewed as "PRIME" marriage material; and that all she needs to do is change the "window dressing" and slightly modify her "attitude", etc.

              As if.

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                [–]Absinthe99 19 points20 points  (0 children)

                isn't representative of our usual viewpoints.

                What the fuck does that mean, the mods get to dictate what the "usual" thought process of the subreddit is?

                That's exactly what it means. The comments were supposed to be 100% "affirmations" about how she's still a "special snowflake", how she must be a "great mom" and that as a "smart and independent womyn" she will doubtless soon find some man who is worthy to be chosen as her "lucky" and "privileged" spousal partner, and to become a part of HER life, and the lives of her blessed children, and... blah blah, yada yada, etc.

                Instead everyone apparently gave her straight answers, told her about "the wall" and that she was essentially a used up slut-hoe with very poor chances of finding anyone willing to want to get anywhere near her and her proverbial festering crotchspawn collection.

                [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                What the fuck does that mean, the mods get to dictate what the "usual" thought process of the subreddit is?

                This means it was too hostile. And linking that thread in here probably wasn't that great of an idea either.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorNiftyDolphin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                It means the thread skewed towards the RedPill and the mods feared brigading.

                [–]ferengiprophet 41 points42 points  (3 children)

                I should clarify that pre-divorce, i was religious and didn't date before i got married. My worth as a partner was directly tied to my ability to be a good Christian wife/mother.

                But once a good girl's gone bad, she's gone forever --Jay Z

                [–]cxj 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                This comment should be at the top. That quote was the most relevant one - it shows that even if you do find the coveted virgin bride, she can still fly off the tracks into the carousel at any time really. Moral of the story: dont fucking marry.

                [–]TRP VanguardCyralea 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                Black America is at least a decade more advanced into the state of societal declined. Rappers spit some serious RP truths.

                [–]tomysotomayorfuxboys 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                It could happen. Plenty of dumb ass white knights out there. But as people get older, the number of women looking to settle down (often with baggage from past relationships) increases, and the number of available and willing men decreases.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Even the beta white knight mentality only goes so far. It's one thing to save a hot, clean, childless ex-stripper who's trying to "change". Stupid, but the male hamster can work with it.

                It's another to sweep up huge messes like multiple kids from multiple Chads and pay off her school loans and be rewarded with starfish sex for it (at least until the marriage contract is signed).

                [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                There's a reason why it's an age old adage in all cultures all over the planet that women should hold out on the sex until a man commits to them. Remember the old days where parents (specifically mothers and grandmothers) would shame their daughters for being promiscuous?

                That's because no "real man" is going to put a ring on that. Chad has damaged her psyche, she has become more prone to disease, and there's higher potential for cheating, lack of ability to pair bond, among other undesirable characteristics for LTRs, marriage, and building a family with a strong feminine role for daughters to follow.

                There's a reason why shit like this has been "repressing women" for so long. Just like there's a reason why we upheld ideas like "don't steal, don't be a glutton, don't fuck your friend's wife, and treat other people how you'd like to be treated".

                [–]SCROTAL-SACK 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                This used up slut is just constantly ego stroking herself to a bunch of faceless strangers online. I don't know what's more pathetic.. that, or the delusion that she thinks she's worthy of ANY kind of long term commitment from man. Too attractive are you darling? No, you're so fucking far off its not even funny. It's just sad.

                [–]grewapair 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                So she's got 2-3 more years before she completely loses her looks and wants a guy to commit to a) keep her when she's a hag, and b) raise another man's kids.

                Not gonna happen. She's the woman every man is trying to avoid. Sure, we'll have sex with her until she's finally finished, but no, we're not going to commit to someone like her.

                [–][deleted]  (53 children)


                [–][deleted] 86 points87 points  (17 children)

                What kind of sandwich was it?

                [–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (5 children)

                Asking the hard questions. Please deliver!

                [–]Newbosterone 42 points43 points  (2 children)

                Prolly Subway. They hide the wrapper, then act like they made it themselves.

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                Idk why but this made me crack up hahahaha

                [–][deleted]  (9 children)


                  [–]WarriorInRed 13 points14 points  (7 children)

                  INB4 Mustard and Peanut butter sandwich.

                  [–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 13 points14 points  (6 children)

                  PB with honey and bananas bro

                  [–][deleted]  (5 children)


                    [–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    That's my carb-y weekend snack. I probably have one every week

                    [–]1mojo_juju 27 points28 points  (6 children)

                    "we should date". It caught me off guard and I started laughing

                    "well that depends on how good of a sandwich you are about to make me" and I slapped her on the ass

                    And that, gentlemen, is how it's done.

                    [–]SCROTAL-SACK 7 points8 points  (4 children)

                    naw, too much time wasted. 1. take out crumpled up note of cash 2. Throw it at her face while she's getting dressed, telling her to get a cab 3. Watch the heartbroken look on her face as she picks it off the floor 4. Crack open a beer


                    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 10 points11 points  (3 children)

                    Why pay her? She got a load to carry home already. Protien is good for them.

                    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (12 children)

                    Now I have an irrational desire to know what kind of sandwich Adolf would make.

                    [–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 13 points14 points  (7 children)

                    He made a sandwich out of the entire German nation after both the Soviets and America got involved.

                    [–]KnG_Kong 10 points11 points  (5 children)

                    I would of gone with a diet Jew sandwich (99% less fat)

                    [–][deleted]  (3 children)


                      [–]TheMountainWhoDews 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                      This is a terrible joke but I like your username.

                      [–]Absinthe99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Now I have an irrational desire to know what kind of sandwich Adolf would make.

                      Probably a very Jew-sy one.

                      [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                      Got a workout on that girl and she was all cutesy and innocent afterwards trying to cuddle with me, probably like the other 500 chads before me. She tries to get my attention and when I look at her she said "we should date".

                      It's frustrating when you consider that this "game" is actually how some women were able to get partners over the years.

                      [–]DarkisKnight 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                      I just heard this the other day "If you think, gosh why is everyone such an asshole?" You're the asshole.

                      Situational translation: "Gosh why don't any of the attractive men want to marry me?" You're not the catch you think you are.

                      [–]TheSKSpecial 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                      "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." - Raylan Givens, Justified

                      [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 10 points11 points  (3 children)

                      They tell her to stop chasing short term sex and definitely no more Tinder and she responds:

                      Thank you. No more tinder - check. That's gonna be hard.

                      It's like telling a child they don't get to eat any more cookies. Ever. LOL!!! Her pussy must be absolutely deformed. I feel sorry for any man that falls between her cross hairs. She will probably resort to some drastic deception, join a church for a month and pursue a 40-year old virgin blue pill who is led straight off a cliff by his pastor.

                      Yeah - i do that anyway. Men in their 30s and 40s without kids have a really difficult time dating single moms.

                      Yes, it is the men with the difficulty, not with the woman (YOU) who lacks value compared to other women.

                      Oi! It's not even worth it to try to get inside her mind. She is about as aware as a retarded chimp.

                      [–]evilkenevil 9 points10 points  (6 children)

                      "36 years old


                      single mother"

                      Stop right there. Strike one, strike two, strike three. Yikes I'm out. What a nightmare.

                      [–]Absinthe99 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                      Translation: To make my pussy wet, you need to be a tall White alpha male with 6-pack abs. But if we're going to be in a relationship, you need to have a 6-figure salary and the ability to change my baby's diapers.

                      Actually at age 36 and with multiple (at least 2, and I'm betting 3+ kids) -- she's probably not looking to have any more diapers changed.

                      Instead what she wants is a 6-figure salary, and plenty of savings/assets to be able to fund her (soon to be teenage, then COLLEGE age) several kids university tuition + room & board bills ... or probably even to just pay the food & clothing & other crap, which starts getting multiple times more expensive as they get bigger (not to mention the likely jail bail/bond costs, lawyers to defend their idiot asses & keep them out of Juvie & the out of prison, etc.) Because she needs to be able to use HER income for HER things (I mean there's a lot of expenses coming up: botox treatments aren't cheap you know! Not to mention the array of boob-lift, butt lift, face lift & tummy tuck procedures that she's gonna need within the next decade. And then of course there's the need for the maid to take care of the house & kids while she's in recovery.)

                      [–]hirjd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      Single mom's don't give a fuck about their kids. All his money is for her.

                      [–]wont_tell_i_refuse 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                      Saw this on a slut-shaming sub. I'm 25 and it's already pretty satisfying to watch my generation of slutcunts get their comeuppance. People literally posting "Where are the good men?" and ThoughtCatalog articles about "Why partner count doesn't matter".

                      [–]CyberninjaZen 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                      Almost everything is deleted in the original thread.

                      [–]YLAOMdood77 18 points19 points  (7 children)

                      Haha this is funny. Women are in control of sex in their 20s.... but men control comittment after that! I'm glad men get a little POWER in the end.

                      [–]1London-Bananas 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                      Men are in power of commitment in their 20's as well

                      [–]YLAOMdood77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      But generally women today don't want to get married until their 30s (they want to spend their 20s on the cock carousel).

                      So guys in their 20s controlling commitment have less power then guys in their 30s.

                      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 20 points21 points  (2 children)

                      power over post wall bitter women isn't worth much....

                      and it's only the alpha guys who have this power. betas still don't get much from what I've seen.

                      [–]throwaway1643 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                      and it's only the alpha guys who have this power. betas still don't get much from what I've seen.

                      If there is one single thing that men should take away from this subreddit, it's "don't be a beta bucks". That is literally life-saving advice.

                      [–]Absinthe99 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      power over post wall bitter women isn't aren't worth much anything....


                      Because that's the actual reason that the "power" over them isn't worth much. That's like sitting in the driver's seat of a wrecked Indy 500 car at a boneyard -- you can pretend that it's still a race car -- but you can't actually use it as one.

                      [–]human_bean_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                      telling other women to follow her example

                      What else is she going to do? Tell other women to out compete her instead?

                      [–]garlicextract[🍰] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      Hard truth: you very well might not be able to get the same "calibre" of person for a relationship that you've been used to getting for casual sex. Men's standards for casual sex tend to be lower than their standards for relationships, so women can generally "play above their league" when it comes to casual sex.

                      Holy shit, the fucking truth of this one; just reverse it to see how powerful it is

                      Women's standards for [RELATIONSHIPS] tend to be lower than their standards for [CASUAL SEX], so women [CAN'T] generally "play above their league" when it comes to [RELATIONSHIPS].

                      [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (15 children)

                      "Almost three decades of riding the cock carousel"? She's 36.

                      [–]SilverWolfeBlade 21 points22 points  (11 children)

                      Out of personal experience, I remember in high school - the attractive girls started early losing their virginities and ducking around. This was 14-16.

                      So if she started at this age, which is highly likely- then at most it would of been two decades.

                      [–]tomysotomayorfuxboys 12 points13 points  (3 children)

                      the attractive girls started early losing their virginities and ducking around.

                      They don't have to be attractive to lose their virginity. There are sexually active ugly teen girls too.

                      [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (1 child)

                      The ugly ones are actually more promiscuous. The attractive ones are more picky, because they are already overloaded on attention.

                      [–]tomysotomayorfuxboys 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                      The ugly ones have to put out to get attention and the attractive ones don't.

                      The stereotype type is the popular guys in HS date the attractive girls and use the fat ugly ones for easy sex.

                      [–]1aguy01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      "There are lots of fat ugly sluts. There are no fat ugly studs."

                      [–]Glenbert 9 points10 points  (3 children)

                      the attractive girls started early losing their virginities and ducking around.

                      I've heard of women swallowing or spitting, but never ducking.

                      [–]ferengiprophet 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                      There were girls in middle school who were sleeping around and this was way back around 2003

                      [–]FearLeadsToAnger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      It's hilarious that nobodys getting this. If she'd been going for 3 decades she'd have started at 6 years old, and i'm not really sure how to end this senten-

                      [–]Absinthe99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I suppose it depends on what you mean by "decades". It's 2015, so the decade of the 90's, the decade of the 00's, and now the decade of the 2010's.

                      I don't know if that's what OP meant, but it's plausible to think of someone being sexually active across three "decades" in those terms.

                      [–]1favours_of_the_moon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      Translation: To make my pussy wet, you need to be a tall White alpha male with 6-pack abs. But if we're going to be in a relationship, you need to have a 6-figure salary and the ability to change my baby's diapers.

                      LOL, and if she was still 20, maybe she could get that but...

                      Translation: I'm so used to receiving tons of attention from males and having everything handed to me on a gold platter simply because of my vagina. I just don't know how to deal with the world now that I don't have this get-out-of-jail-free card anymore! Help!

                      Now she is left to bully all the posters of r/askmen into telling her what she wants to hear, because somehow she believes that will make men want to date/BB her.

                      Having an education and career do add to her "value," IMO. We always talk shit about a bitch who has "nothing else" to offer but the vajayjay. And as she ages, even that becomes less attractive. But at least this is a bitch who has a little bit of "something else" to offer. So I do give her credit for that.

                      [–]2Overkillengine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      It's just that the "something else" she has isn't enough for a relationship, and it doesn't help with boner tests.

                      It's like getting mad after trading your cash in for arcade tokens and finding out you can't buy food at the grocery store with them.

                      Sure, the tokens have a value, just not one usable in certain contexts.

                      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      The thread was deleted for being "brigaded".

                      Let's look a the pros and cons of a relationship with this woman.

                      1. There are about 25 good reproductive years with a woman. The first few are spent as a minor. At 30 she has maybe 10 years left with each year becoming increasingly difficult to conceive. So, if any many wanting children would rightly exclude her.

                      2. She has children from a previous relationship. These are huge time and resource sinks that will siphon off resources from any step-daddy even if they are getting support from the baby daddy. This means fewer resources for any children produced from that union. Any man wanting kids of his own would again rightly be reluctant to be with this woman.

                      3. If reproductive capacity is an asset then a woman at 30 is a rapidly depreciating asset. If he were in his 40's a man might consider her acceptable since his own smv is declining (albeit much slower, but theoretically could rise if he becomes much more financially successful).

                      4. She's fucked a lot of dudes and doesn't know how to make a LTR happen or if it does how to make it last. This is a huge red flag for a man. While the partner count can be daunting, as a man in his 40's with a significant partner count himself, I am not put off by this. Frankly, it's nice to be with a woman who knows what she's doing and how to take care of her man. Experience is worth something. However, can a woman who is a self-admitted slut settle down with one man any more than an obese fast food lover settle down with home made healthy meals?

                      5. I disagree that having a good job, travel, education, etc. is unimportant to a man. I don't get feels from those things, but eventually you have to have a conversation with a woman and it's nice if she can talk about something other than shoes and purses and when the best sales are. And having her own money is important because I'm not supporting her--ever. She's gonna have to pay her own way. Supporting a post-wall woman who gave her best reproductive and beauty years to someone else is like paying full price for a used car. Only this car has a divorce and kids which is like a major collision and multiple liens. Who would buy a car like that?

                      I don't think her situation is hopeless. Well, it is as long as she maintains this notion that her smv is as high as it ever was and men should just change to suit her.

                      She does have to change her standards. Go for older men. Be willing to pay her way. Offer to have more kids if he wants, but often older men don't want more kids. She'll have the partner she wants. He'll have one significantly younger than he is and therefore pretty enough in comparison.

                      Oh, and her kids must be well behaved and exceptional. Bratty little fucks who mope around and cop attitudes are a non-starter for me.

                      [–]spacelord777 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                      I like how she keeps asking what she could do with a guy other than fuck him. She is truly so shallow she can think of no other human interaction than fucking.

                      [–]AllMyOwnStunts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      The commentary on this was exquisite, man.

                      A for effort

                      [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      I would say "this smells like a troll post", but on the other hand women who really are that oblivious exist. Regarding the OP of that thread, I'm on the fence. Has a bit of comment history, but not very much (oh, and she aged from 30 to 36 within a year, so there's that).

                      [–]1grendalor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      She's really the perfect whore, by her own account. Lots of guys like a whore who can hold a conversation, and this one comes free of charge. Unfortunately if she is actually looking for a quality man, she's in trouble -- quality men in her age range have much better options than a mouthy divorced whore of a single mother. Her "best bet" if she wants a meal ticket remarriage is to snag a beta who doesn't know any better and get good at hiding her whorishness.

                      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                      I love the whole predivorce I was a Christian loving wife BS. How are you going to hop from cock riding slut to Christian to cock riding slut. Man this woman has issues. Hope she likes cats.

                      [–]quelques_heures 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      The main turnon for men is whether you're feminine and whether you're thin. That's it. Nobody gives a shit about how many countries you've traveled to.

                      Sure there are. Except they're over 50, with a pot belly and child-support payments. But she doesn't want to hear that right now.

                      [–]Shankar_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      It's almost as if that was a troll post. It's too hard to believe.

                      [–]IronMeltsinmyHands 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Education, career shit, volunteerism, all that shit is for you. We're men, not the people who judge your college applications. If I even have to ask myself whether you're in or out, the answer is out. Uncertainty is not to be tolerated.

                      All I want is a woman with soft, firm skin, tatas to make the world go round, and cooking skills from heaven. Naturally, she'll help me, I'll help her. That's what marriage is.

                      But we can't dream forever. There are no women like that. At least not in this part of the world.

                      [–]bam2_89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      The main turnon for men is whether you're feminine and whether you're thin. That's it. Nobody gives a shit about how many countries you've traveled to.

                      I sort of disagree with this. Being feminine and fit are the main factors, but there are girls who are just so boring or stupid that a less attractive person with some education or life experience is going to be more attractive. That being said, it won't make up for flat-out unattractiveness.

                      [–]Philhelm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      But if we're going to be in a relationship, you need to have a 6-figure salary and the ability to change my baby's diapers.

                      If I ever write a post in which I state that I have changed another woman's, baby's diaper, please kill me.

                      I disagree about the obscene amount of partners.

                      But she admits that it's obscene...lol

                      I'm well . . . cultured as well as well traveled

                      What does that even fucking mean? Sure, someone who was born and raised in Podunk, Kentucky and never left his town of 1,000 certainly isn't well traveled. However, what do women really gain (aside from strange cock) from going on international trips? As someone who is fond of history, and even has a degree in history, I know that women (sadly) hate history, culture, etc.

                      Her: "Oh, I so love Vienna!"

                      Me: Did you know that the Romans had a fort in Vienna? That the Habsburgs (who?) had their seat of power in there at one time? That Vienna was twice besieged by the Ottoman Turks (who?)? In fact, a statue was made of a mercenary captain who defended Vienna during the earlier siege. Etc., etc., etc.

                      Her: Vagina turns into a desert wasteland. I'm soooo well read, well cultured, and well traveled.

                      Me: I've never been to Vienna.

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