The red pill works and I'm disgusted. (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]TheOuterRing 831 points831 points [recovered]

You gotta look for women outside of the hookup culture.

No woman found on Tinder will be worth any LTR time.

Join a sport. Take a dance lesson. Eye a few girls at the gym that you can talk to. Find a new hobby. Join a class. Keep yourself out there, but do it in environments where people aren't solely there to get laid.

Visit Red Pill Women. This will help your cynicism and let you realize that not all women are sociopaths/liars/whores/human degenerates. They are still AWALT and emotional, but not all of them will rip your soul out and eat it for breakfast.

Think of it this way - Red Pill often does field reports that are so negative, that I wouldn't blame any guy that joins a monastery after spending too much time here. But realize why...it's because they are all plating. Finding girls on Tinder. Immediately trying to screw the woman instead of building anything.

Of course that's going to bring out negative characteristics of a woman. Not many report on the good because if they did, they'd get ridiculed for putting a woman on a pedestal/thinking she's a unicorn/told immediately she will change and become a bitch just because she has a vagina. So no one posts positive reports here, because this sub is becoming a circle jerk of agreeing how awful women are and how they are only good for sex. And if anyone posts anything other than that, they are ostracized.

Sound familiar? It's what feminists did before the feminazi movement. They sat around talking about how awful men are. About how they hate how much of a pig all men are. About how no man can commit, because "it's in his genes to whore around."

Don't buy into the negativity. Find a truth to the words, weed out the cynical opinions, and come to a neutrality instead. Take away what works no matter how you apply it - building charm, learning about AWALT, learning about hamstering, learning about maintaining frame - and use those tools however you like. The whole point of RP is to become aware that women are different then men. RP studies and accepts those differences, which helps with the dating strategy. Since a lot of guys are currently targeting college women who literally party their pants off, a lot of negativity has made its way into this sub.

[–]lemming1607 213 points214 points  (86 children)

nice to see some objectivity in this forum

[–]fuckin_retard 134 points134 points [recovered]

I'm not playing this game anymore. I'm becoming dark. I'm becoming hateful, and the light inside me is extinguished. I want to find a beautiful person but they don't exist, they're all taken, or they just cannot be found.

I want to address this. A couple years ago I got into an LTR with a pretty amazing girl. She was pretty conservative, she had a general disdain for feminism, said she liked traditional gender roles, and she was pretty and had a fucking great set of tits. She was also hard working and she supported me unconditionally. Because she had relatively little experience sexually, I felt like I got to teach her and she basically over time became ravenously obsessed with me, saying shit like "you own my pussy" when I was fucking her. God damn thinking back on it, it was unreal.

But I was young, man, so I ran away from the commitment. The week after I broke up with her I fucked 4 chicks, 2 of them in bathrooms at parties, and I was thinking "man life is good". But after the 4th chick, I felt so fucking empty. I wanted to go back to my LTR and I met up with her but she said "no, you fucked up", and I've regretted this shit ever since.

If women weren't collectively flooding the market with pussy, it would make it a lot easier for us men to settle down into a relationship. But as testosterone fueled creatures, its difficult for us men to retire from the "game" when its so fucking easy. As much as I liked being in a loving relationship, I felt like a caged beast, and I knew sluts were willing to spread their legs if I spit a few good lines. The irony in all of this is that women are the biggest complainers with "where have all the good men gone?" But they ran all the good men away. Good men don't want to commit to sluts, and the top notch girls attract Alphas but Alphas don't want to commit to even them because they can get easy pussy with no strings attached. Bitches are easier to fuck than they ever have been in history and I can't imagine how its going to get easier but I bet it will.

I wish the world was different man. Its fucked up. I ultimately take full responsibility for leaving her of course, but my incentives were shaped by our "sexually liberated" culture.


[–]Tall_Irish_Guy 37 points38 points  (24 children)

This thread chain of comments is pure gold. I was in your situation too and the regret hasn't went away. I hate the idea that I made girls feel betrayed or unimportant because of that caged beast mentality you described.

Hindsight sucks. I feel like for the last year I've been subconsciously ashamed of myself for choosing fucking multiple girls over one good one. Shit like tinder and living in a big city like London has perpetuated this lifestyle of casual hook ups amd no long term commitment. I'm trying to find another good girl and it's proving hard. I hope I haven't changed for the worse.

[–]fuckin_retard 14 points14 points [recovered]

I bet its absolutely crazy in London...

Don't lose hope man, you'll find a good girl if you look hard enough in the right places. I'm not going to say "its never too late" because that's bullshit but I'm guessing you still have time

[–]Endorsed ContributorObio1 23 points24 points  (3 children)

London is the absolute worst. Not only are English women more obese than any other women on Earth (Statistical fact, btw. Look it up), but it's also a very extremely bizarre culture where good looking, well-dressed successful men can be seen dating short, fat, expectation-addled sausages who consider themselves superior to the rest of the world's women for some reason I've never quite understood.

I lived and worked in London for a while and can confidently say that if you want a good girl in London you're going to have to date a foreign girl, and a "recent import" at that. Once they've been there for more than a year, they transform into bitches.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've lived in London all my life, English women are fat, ugly and have an inexplicable level of entitlement and arrogance about them, I was in central Europe for a while and the women there were so much more feminine, fit, dainty, submissive, the whole shebang, thank god for foreigners in London.

[–]Tall_Irish_Guy 5 points5 points [recovered]

I didn't think the sub would take too well to my comment but thanks man. It's good to know I don't don't feel alone in this. I'm 24 so hopefully I've still got some time.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (11 children)

London girls are as bad as American girls if not worse. Luckily the foreigner population is enormous and full of excellent picks.

[–]razorwan 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Funny you say that, given how adamant lots of Caucasian British folks want them out of their country.

[–]rpkarma 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Nah they just want the brown ones gone. They'll happily keep the hot whiter ones.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why I'm happy that I've lived in the belly of the beast first. Now I know what it is and I don't want to go back. I had an LTR. Not interested in doing that again.

[–]svogliate 22 points22 points [recovered]

If women weren't collectively flooding the market with pussy, it would make it a lot easier for us men to settle down into a relationship.

My father, born in the USA in 1925, told me of a different time; a time where men and women were freer to get to know each other - for months or years, if desired - before starting in with the intimate rituals of sexual partnership. Of course people still had casual sex, but it was not the norm. It was explicitly a deviation from the norm; it was done in secret and in shame.

People got to know each other in different ways. Sure, looks were important; but equally important, and emphasized, was the content of your partner's character. It mattered to both men and women and it mattered long before the underwear came off.

I'm a man, like a lot of you; I enjoy the opportunity to smash 5 hot broads in 5 days, like a lot of you do. But what Dad used to talk about - I can't find that now. A months-long courtship? Better dig out your IBM Selectric and type up a novel about it, Grandpa. Maybe there are still some old people left who will want to read it.

The bottom line appears to me to be that as you look around, nearly everyone you see is plugged in, enslaved to the current system of culture. I imagine that there must be women wandering around like I am, looking for something different, but I sure do not find them.

[–]TruckerJohn 12 points13 points  (4 children)

The obvious response is that unicorns don't exist. I don't know about that though. The Red Pill is creating alphas, so maybe RPW is producing unicorns. Who knows?

[–]svogliate 5 points5 points [recovered]

Well, I think they may not exist, here and now. But I am also not certain that the here and now is representative of how men and women have always related to each other across the ages. In fact, my own belief is that probably what is going on now is an aberration, and an unhealthy one. Historically these aberrations tend to be self-correcting - in the long run.

None of this speculation is of any practical use to a man who is alive and wants to interact with women; yet I think it is good not to lose sight of it entirely.

[–]razorwan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This is funny to read-- do you think that some tiny little subreddit is producing quality women? There have been, and still are RP women across the globe, who were raised properly with the right mindset on how to be a dutiful woman and mother. These women make up the majority, and the few on the red pill subreddit are like grains of sand in comparison.

I see a lot of people weeping about how the world is turning to shit, but the truth is that RP values are alive and well. We're just so used to seeing feminist agendas in media that we forget that a lot of women still hold RP values true to their hearts.

[–]TruckerJohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suppose you're correct. I'm at an art school ina very liberal city, so I guess im just surrounded by the eminist/hookup culture and i get out of touch with the majority sometimes. BUT don't be fooled, the SJW/far left WILL have and even bigger effect on the generation of kids that us college kids are gonna have.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (1 child)

I too had a near unicorn. Total devotion and loyalty, woke me uo with head jobs then made breakfast. Worshipped me. It lasted 20 years, two kids, big house and three businesses. Then she left me for Chad Thundercock. It works both ways and love is indeed a fleeting and impermanent thing.

Humans are members of the animal kingdom and only 3% of creatures in the animal are monogamous. Among those species which include gibbons, albatross and (hehe) - beavers, the male and females generally weigh the same and look the same. Humans are not meant to be monogamous.

However we are cursed (blessed?) with the ability to introspect and reflect. Sometimes we want things we can't have (like a unicorn or a billion dollars). Life was not meant to be easy but it is good that we have each other and this site to tell the truth.

Remember that this website is a discussion of sexual strategy. It does not address the deeper questions of life. If you want true love then you will need to have children. To do that you need to navigate the minefield that is western women and relationships.

It is cold and dark out there my friends. At least you now have a light, but that won't make you warmer. By seeing things as they are rather than the way you wish things were you can at least make informed decisions.

As far as the non-existence of good women - the good news is - that is not entirely true. The bad news is that she will not be particularly attractive. If you want a good woman try the library or your local church. Talk to the less attractive girls in your class and you will find they have a heart and soul. The sad fact is that most of us are only as faithful as our options…...

[–]INomYou 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Questions on your sequence of events... did you see it coming (the divorce), were there red flags you saw then or identify now in hindsight? Had you taken TRP at that point i.e. were you running a captain-first mate household? Other external circumstances - finances, wandering eye, etc? This hits kinda close to home. Feel free to PM me if you'd prefer. Much appreciated.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Red pill contributes to this problem and the solution isn't necessarily traditionalism either.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I can say that I had something pretty similar to that. But I stayed with her and I've never had a better connection with another human being. She became the best friend I have ever had, loads of shared interests, shared opinions, shared sense of humour, sex on tap, real trust and emotional support and all the things a good relationship needs... the real deal.

But one day after she finished college, and started working as a lawyer, she became less cool and more rigid. Her sense of humour started to go downhill and she starts becoming offended by loads of things. She starts going to bed earlier and earlier each night and barely had time for fun things anymore... I stayed with her because I loved her. She finally paid off all her student debt after mooching off me and goes back to college to further her law degree, and decides that she didn't have enough fun in college the first time due to our relationship, and we're not compatible anymore and she needs a more financially secure future than what I could give her and she left me.

That shit made me feel like the lowest of the lows. For 4 years I suffered the most tremendous heartbreak.

But you, sir, did the right thing. No relationship like that stays good forever. It gets old. People change.

I wish I had left that girl years before she left me, while she was turning into what she became, while I still had a chance to meet new people. I'm 30 now and nobody parties anymore... Tinder is the best I've got but it's still quite hard to meet people on there in my country. And even when I do, it feels even more empty and meaningless than meeting someone while out partying. Feels like the soul is being sucked out of everything.

[–]recursoinominado 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Right in the feelings. I recently broke up with a awesome gf of 3 years for a series of reasons, and one of them is that I wanted to fuck some other pussys (23 yo, only fucked 7 girls), but now I am depressed as fuck with the things I am seeing on those girls, Jesus, looks like they are all sociopath whores, this isn't the life I want, I want to marry some RP woman and be awesome together and have 3 awesome kids. Right now I am really depressed because it's looks like impossible to find this girl. Fuck.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

You lost your unicorn.

You got out there with the animals that run around and now you have begun to recognize that the quality you had wasn't as common of a resource as you thought it might be - seeing that it was sooo easy that first time around.

It's happened to the best of us (trust me), but regret isn't a healthy thing to carry with you. Take your experience and learn from it. Now you know what quality looks like. Now you know how precious and rare it is.

[–]Iceman3514 5 points5 points [recovered]

Reverse the roles, essentially my ex took advantage of me and left. A few months later, she reached out and I tore her apart with my RP knowledge/enlightenment of what happened/she did to me.

All she could do was deny deny deny and then said tht she feels bad that I am so unhappy and that she wishes that someday I am as happy as she is right now.

For some reason that stuck with me. Usually us men have to add the "right now" on to the end of what she says. Is she really happy? Why even reach out if she was?

[–]Squeezymypenisy 2 points3 points  (6 children)

It shouldn't matter. She left. Her lost. Ignore any attempts at reproach. No need to even speak with her.

[–]Iceman3514 2 points2 points [recovered]

It's does matter. I've never been with anyone else where I came home from a first date and just "felt it"

I've never been overcome with that feeling since then.

[–]razorwan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Plenty of fish in the sea-- you're just creating this fantasy in your head of a unicorn.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I never have. It's possible you are still yearning for a dream that never will be. You should be the focus of your life. And the female you choose to join in your life should add value to it.

[–]pdtrading 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Your lucky that you get a taste of satisfaction at the very least. Believe me, I jut went through a bad breakup. Complete whiteknight, Lover, BP to the last pill. I was the one who got shattered. I doubt that I get that redemption, but its amazing to just fucking move on.

[–]meltingtapes 2 points2 points [recovered]

I'm in this position at the moment. Have a beautiful girl who fits the traditional dynamic and sounds similar to yours. I had a hard time committing to her initially since I wanted to explore my options. Now we've been together for over a year and the caged animal wants to be let out again. I'm also 25. It's tough I know if I cut her loose it'll be a long time before I find someone great like this again. Or maybe not.

[–]St_OP_to_u_chin_me 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Nice! Never had that said to me yet " you own my pussy ", that must of been sweet

[–]INomYou 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Im plating a sub - my first - and it is mindblowing to me. Told me this weekend she feels her "pussy has changed shape to hold only my cock" then asked me fuck her mouth and cum in her throat. I was happy to oblige but back of my mind kept thinking of the depth of depravity some women seek during sex. Not a humblebrag I'm just am having trouble processing the kind of utter domination that gets her off....like what the fuck.

Pre TRP, beta me would have tried to nice guy my way into her pants with dinners and flowers and probably been shot down after I dropped a bunch of time and coin on her. Sometimes I hate having found this place.

[–]Nicholas_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Sometimes I hate having found this place. "

Feel the same a lot of the time, you really see the majority of young females for who they are.

Wearing skin-tight clothing, all done-up perfectly, teasing men purposefully just to know they can make you stare.

If you don't stare, they actually subtly try to make you stare and if you still don't give them attention, they in some fucked way want you.

It's a horrible, horrible fucked up world.

[–]TheOuterRing 70 points70 points [recovered]

It's been severely lacking it lately

[–]Squeezymypenisy 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Men's rightists and anger phase is heavy in this sub. It still has many good posts though in my opinion. And even the most angry individuals can have good insight on occasion. AWALT is sometime a circlejerk taken to far, but eh, ignoring it is easy. The fact that all of these posts in this top comment are being upvoted means not everyone here is still in the anger phase.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Well said! Thanks for pointing out the anger phase. The anger phase is an important place that all men need to have - it's our old reality (perceptions) colliding with actual reality of the world out there. It's like we've been taught something - a lot of us might be beta males back then, and have yet to uncover (or just uncovering) our alpha side - and that something is a lie. I'm a RedPill advocate, and at the same time I'm in a great relationship. It's monogamous (though in the past I've had open ones), she loves me, I love her, she's better than any woman I've been with, but you know what? AWALT principles still stay all the way - I never turn my back on that. You get too comfortable, you lose who you are too much in a relationship - guess what, the man she's attracted to, in her eyes, wouldn't be there anymore and it's her reason to leave/be boring/in worst case - cheat. My advice for OP of this main post is to work on yourself, be brave and tackle your fears - if you're afraid of it, do it - and work on finding your inner brave self. Then a woman, or women - that is ideal to you long term will come up. But - honestly - this will probably happen when you're not looking for it. You're swimming in experiencing true enjoyment of life, or tackling true challenges, that you forget to look. And then, she will appear. Good luck, OP.

[–]ItIsMyPrivilege 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I think the main reason posts like this are advised against is because most of us came here as betas. It encourages the possibility of falling back into BP beta ways.

I like to see this place as a toolbox but I've also seen so many truths in just about everything here.

[–]Darkuso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that is because is risky and harder, i mean have a LTR/married and keep being RP/alpha.

[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (10 children)

I understand your sentiments and mostly agree. I also feel OP's frustration. But it's a slippery slope thinking that there's a good woman out there and all you need to do is look in the right place. It leads you back into weakness.

I think it's better to just assume AWALT and then stop making it your priority to meet a woman that you have a genuine connection with. Find other things in life that make you happy. Learn to be happy alone spinning plates.

Maybe you'll run across what appears to be a unicorn and enter ltr, but remember, with no expectations there can be no disappointment. Always expect AWALT and if they surprise you, then great. But don't go looking for her. You don't need her. You have everything you need.

I don't believe in unicorns anymore and love appears to be an illusion. People are selfish and don't care. The world is fucked. But rather than dwell in frustration and anger like OP seems to be doing, learn to be grateful that you're here to witness this great mystery of life with infinite complexity. It really is beautiful even in it's ugliness. And stop hoping to find a woman to love. Don't look outside of yourself for fulfillment.

[–]TheOuterRing 16 points16 points [recovered]

I truly agree a lot with this.

I think, in the end, you just need to do both.

Keep looking in the right places for a good woman, but don't hinge your happiness upon it. Find happiness within yourself, while always being aware, and then you'll be in a much better place of dating.

It's like trying to dance with someone when you have never danced on a dance floor. To get the best result out of the dance, you need to learn to dance alone. And then partner up. You need to be happy first before you can be happy later.

There is no way to happiness - happiness is the way.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Here's a theory on LTR's Ive gathered from my time here - if you are looking for a LTR, do not look for one, just keep dating girls until you find one that is better than every other one you've been with to that point. Do you have any reason to think she'll cheat on you? Do you have fun with her? Does she enhance any part of your life without detracting from other parts of it? Then go for it. Just remember that if she does anything like cheating, shes gone without question and you dont look back. Also remember that there is no perfect woman, there is no 'the one' thats been ingrained into peoples heads. You take the best you can get and you work to make it work, as long as it does not make you question yourself or make you drop any of your principles, frame, and standards.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If she cheats then she cheats. If she doesn't then great. You can make it about as simple as that. If she wants to cheat then go out the door and don't look back. You will see the signs.

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[–]mryddlin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So many that find this are in the anger state, so it's kind of normal to see a negative circle jerk happening. Ie there will always be more negative feedback than positive, the positive ones won't feel as much need to post.

It's a good point you have here and the critical thinking is evident from the quality of the OP and the top commments. That hasn't stopped yet and at its heart TRP is just a framework, as a dogma it will fail.

People are so used to living with ideologies they kind of forgotten how to use a framework with out making it a religion.

Good post, thanks

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's like anybody who finds something new that resonates with them. Whether SJW bullshit, politics anywhere on the spectrum, a new hobby or sport etc. When people have the "revelation" they tend to get a bit hyped up.

+1 to being happy the mods left it up though.

[–]spacelord777 47 points48 points  (23 children)

Agree so much with this. I don't spend as much time on TRP anymore because of all the circlejerking. It has gotten ridiculous. There was a post not long ago about how some woman encouraged her boyfriend to commit suicide. And everyone in the comments kept saying "AWALT." Really? That is some hardcore delusion right there.

Another reason I don't say much anymore is because I am actually married. I have been for 10 years and I am totally happy in my marriage--it is a very RedPill marriage. But no one here wants to hear that...they will say I have oneitis, blah, blah. Even the guys over in Married RedPill have picked up on this attitude lately.

To the OP, if you read this...It is still perfectly possible to have healthy, happy relationships with women. As others have said, you are just meeting up with sluts. Of course they are going to be garbage. Sluts are only good for fucking. But not all women are the same. No, there aren't any unicorns. But there are women who have much better potential than others, that can be molded into good mates, if that is what you desire.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 19 points20 points  (7 children)

AWALT is a risk mitigation term, not a literal statement of fact.

The lesson to get from AWALT isn't that women will encourage you to suicide, but that they will throw you under a bus or manipulate you if they perceive that it is in their best interests.

That being said they're still human, and most of them aren't going to be absolute monsters. A girl might want to see a guy she was dating hurt and emotionally destroyed, but she usually won't want him literally dead.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 7 points8 points  (4 children)

AWALT is a risk mitigation term, not a literal statement of fact.

Why is that so hard to understand? Why does that need to be repeated ad nausem? That term needs to be revised in the glossary so that we dont need to repeat this. Its RP 101.

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[–]clam61 4 points4 points [recovered]

Wow we are totally in the same boat. I am so jaded if I don't bang within 3 dates I pretty much next it. If she wants me to take her to dinner I typically next it. If she seems at all needy or a pain in the ass I next it.

What others have said is true. If you are looking at bars, clubs, Tinder, online, etc. typically you won't find a quality LTR girl.

However, I have a problem where it's not possible for me to meet a girl in any other way.

Most beta guys do not want to include me in their social circle because I will snag the girl. Most girls will either hate on me if they are in a relationship with some beta, or like me and cockblock me completely.

I have a core group of male friends, and they all have male friends and we go out looking for chicks to bang together.

My social circle consists of them, and acquaintances at work that I would never hang out with.

[–]GrandmasterHurricane 24 points25 points  (9 children)

You talk as if Tinder girls live inside Tinder. The girls at your yoga class, the one at the gym, that coffee shop chick, your neighbor's daughter, that cutie from chem class, these are your Tinder girls. These everyday women are the ones on Tinder. And u will never know if your cold approach is/was on Tinder unless she talks about it or leaves a trace. It's a landmine field out there. Don't walk through it, it's too risky. Consider all of them damaged goods that way you can never be deceived. Pump and dump and pump and dump.

[–]TheOuterRing 6 points6 points [recovered]

If you choose to not play the game, that's totally up to you bro.

But just know, that while you can't lose if you don't play, you also can't win. No one said it would be easy, but it definitely can be worth it.

If you are fine not being in an LTR, then continue on. If you enjoy LTRs, then don't be surprised that they keep failing you with that mentality. No chick, with genuine interests and decent morals, is going to stick around long/be happy if she's treated like a damaged good. You don't see how that mentality will perpetuate the horrible morals chicks are developing?

[–]GrandmasterHurricane 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Western society women have been on a steep decline in quality for a while now, and the rest of the world will start following the same path soon enough. In America, the music, the shows, the movies, the stars, social media, they all contribute heavily to slut acceptance. I'm not even going to mention the wave of feminism that's out there. Whether or not I choose to believe in unicorns won't change the damage that's being don't to these chicks' minds as soon as they turn on TV, radio, or go to the movies. I can only adjust and navigate accordingly. They're all sluts and damaged goods until proven otherwise. That way I'm never disappointed in people.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 20 points21 points  (12 children)

The term "circle-jerk" gets thrown around very casually these days.

Circle-jerk is code for "a lot of people here are saying something that I find distasteful." It's not a meaningful criticism whatsoever. It's dismissive, empty bitching. It's whining about content without understanding the underlying cause or working toward a solution.

Now, that not to say that there aren't a lot of guys saying it in this sub, because there are. But there's a reason why the "women suck" mantra is so prevalent here. "Women suck" is a normal attitude to have during the anger phase when you've just begun waking up, and with each passing day more guys come here who are in that early phase.

The solution is, as you said, to overcome that empty feeling of nihilism by adjusting one's expectations of women, and by helping other men to likewise adjust theirs. And we do that by acting and examining causes and effects, not by complaining and embracing thought-terminating cliches.

It avails us nothing to bitch about what we can't change - that includes women's Machiavellianism, and that includes the fact that new men will continue to come here and be angry at the fact that they've lied to all their lives. But who can blame them?

Extend a hand and help a brother to his feet.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (5 children)

i so fucking disagree with this.

You know some brown dude recently made a post about how to get laid if you're a foreigner and it was deleted even though it was getting a shit ton of upvotes. He messaged the mod and the mod obviously pretending to be some tough alpha crap responded in the most douchebag way possible. http://i.imgur.com/SlB2rP0.png?1 . Read that again. Read the part that says "this fucking repetitive topic", read that.

You know what the great joke is? It's been mentioned several times how this is a sexual strategy sub FOR MEN. Anything that helps men get laid will be discussed including self improvement, etc. Please tell me what the fuck the millions of posts here from r/relationships ever accomplishes except for "lessons learned: AWALT" or "OMG! Look! Another example of the terrible nature of women and AWALT guys!". ALL those posts scream anger phase 101. You're not discussing how men can manipulate the sexual marketplace anymore, you're discussing how bad and terrible women are , and not really providing any insight EVEN THOUGH ALL THAT SHITS ON THE SIDEBAR. How is that not circlejerking? Repeatedly posting shit from r/relationships that gives the same two messages: AWALT and hamstering. Tell me why the fuck those posts don't get deleted? Tell me how that's not a bunch of angry men circlejerking? I look forward to your response.

[–]machimus 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Anger phase is a normal phase, but it is not the ultimate goal. When we let it become the pervading mindset, we are sending a message to new guys that this is what TRP is all about. We need as much help as possible not only acknowledging anger phase, but moving past it.

[–]-rubashov 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yes this is true. The problem is TRP main sub is stuck in an internal September of anger phase posters coming in. Most established posters will move on eventually to be replaced to ex-anger phases. And the cycle repeats.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I remember an endorsed guy saying that was actually how it was supposed to be. Dude finds redpill, he unplugs, gets angry, stays angry for a bit, gradually learns more, graduates the sidebar, makes some good quality posts or not, and then leaves this subreddit forever with a rare check in now and then. The sub is honestly set up like the greeks of old were taught.

[–]Kandarino 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sums up nicely why I very rarely come here anymore.

[–]TheReformist94 6 points7 points  (6 children)

When I read stuff like this,the default dishonesty,manipulation,the work required,there's no incentive to be faithful or honest with a girl

[–]TheOuterRing 11 points11 points [recovered]

You have to remember a lot of recent posts submitted here have been about women that were found on Tinder. Of course them bitches be crazy.

It's like real estate - "Location, location, location."

If you find a chick on Tinder, there is no fixing her. No matter how much you "re-model". She's still from a bad location, ie, tinder. You can never make that presentable or work. You are always stuck in a bad spot.

When you find a chick through other means - the gym, a class, happen stance at a car dealership, through honest friends - then that means you have a chick who might be worth something here. Maybe a remodel or two, but the location in which she was found is not a toxic one of hoeing around. It was through honest every day interactions, which are more genuine. Although, they are harder to find.

And thus the issue of modern society - we are a generation of instant gratification. We don't want to wait for the right person. Especially with Tinder, where you can pump and dump all day long.

Patience. And stay away from LTRing the chicks that were discovered in shady/untrustworthy ways. Them hoes didn't get there "because all their friends were doing it, and she just happens to be the cool one." Bitch, you know the second you're on Tinder, or going out clubbing, exactly what you were doing.

[–]TheReformist94 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Theyre all sluts and al on tinder

[–]truchisoft 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They can all become sluts, not all of them do, and you might get lucky and find one who is not really interested or was educated differently.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (7 children)

There's a reason why we call them unicorns. That's because they don't exist.

Women are a protected class. They just are. Why do they act like pernicious spoiled children? Because they can. They don't face the same social and legal consequences for terrible behavior. They live in a permissive bubble with echoing feminist messages ringing in their ears telling them that all men are worthless dregs unworthy of human dignity.

Women act like the biggest cunts walking on two legs and it's meaningless, because ultimately some stooge will come along and wipe their asses for them and they know it. The world is full of thirsty betas willing to sniff the shit out of spoiled brat's asshole on the remote chance they might put it out to them once a month.

What happens when you treat someone like utter shit and they still kiss your ass? You see them as loathsome fools. You laugh at them and disregard their humanity. They refuse to act with self respect, therefore they will never be worthy of yours.

This is the mindset of the contemporary woman when it comes to men. Its happens in the macro and the micro. The result is men are seen as commodities, nothing more. They exist in value only to the extent an association provides benefit. AWAFLT - ALL WOMEN ARE FUCKING LIKE THAT -Especially millennial women.

Watch this famous scene from Rocky. Does any one know a woman even remotely close to the character played by Talia Shire? 25 years ago young women like this still existed, but not today.

Good girls like this are a relic. The humble ones who were raised to know what love and compassion is, who value their virtue and know that it is a sign of self respect and value, who actually want to build a life with a husband and devote their lives to family - are nothing more than signal flares from an earlier age we still see once in a while in movies or in books.

This kind of woman comes from a different time, a different age. Today this kind of woman would be ostracized with real vitriol.

Today, women are pigs. Straight up fucking pigs. Lets not sugar coat shit. OP is right - especially in these western progressive urbanite cultures - the women are complete shit. You can't trust a goddamn one of them. They aren't fucking worth any kind of respectful treatment - you fuck them and discard them like the trash they are.

OP describes trying to have a conversation about finding meaningful companionship with the women he meets. They immediately try to run a ridiculous, manipulative chase game where they pretend all of a sudden their pussies aren't being giving away to different guys on a weekly basis. It's sick. These are the kind of people you're supposed to trust to be your best friend and partner in life? You can't even trust them to be honest about who they are. Everything is a con game - every act a lever - everything is a lie. Half the fucking time they themselves don't even know what the truth is. This is not something you can rely upon.

Finding that one woman to really love you - to really care about you - to really give a shit about your happiness is a rare thing indeed. To a man - every single visitor to this sub deserves nothing less, but unfortunately our pragmatism has forced us to be somewhat cynical and distrusting. But even so - AWALT - remember Briffault's law. Women are still women and they will always have an expectation of benefit from relationships. We have come to discover the pointlessness of the unicorn hunt.

I won't go as far as to say that good women are completely extinct and don't exist in the world, but the trendy city scenes are not the places to find them. If one wants to find a girl with good values, one needs to look in places where these values are still common.

To the young man I would give this advice. Build your personal empire - whatever it may be. Gain some assets, find some success. Make THAT your priority. A man gets beyond 25 he begins to contemplate marriage and family. This is normal. Hold off until at least 32 years AT LEAST. If marriage is still something you think you might want, then be smart about it. Leave the cosmopolitan city whores alone. Find a gentle scene with an environment conducive to producing people with family values and look for 25 year old women with no baggage. You'll fare a better chance.

Even having said that, to these younger guys - I'd have a hard time keeping a clear conscience recommending marriage. This latest generation of women is pretty bad. They weren't this narcissistic when I was in my 20s. It wasn't all a rose garden to be sure, but it was better than what it is now. Its almost like the young single women out there are pretty much sociopaths. How do you deal with something like that? How do you rationally invest your life into this kind of girl?

I don't know man, I just don't know.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why a man today needs to build the framework of his life long before he invites a woman into it.

When a man maintains control over his own destiny, then he will also be more likely to have stability in his relationships.

The answer is to have one's life laid out so that he could always survive a divorce without much difficulty. The specter of dread will always linger without a man having to actively create it. Such things are unspoken. I don't have to lay dread game down on my wife for her to fully expect the one strike and you're out marriage policy that exists. She knows what kind of person I am. I would force sale of all of our assets in divorce - give her the check she is owed - and kick back and not lose a blink of sleep over it. Not a fucking wink. I love and care about my wife very deeply, but she isn't necessary for me to maintain quality of life. It would be a "sorry but you fucked up" moment. I would transition into a single man's lifestyle practically overnight.

In this mold, you maintain a leadership role in your marriage and you are prepared if the worst case scenario occurs. You can then stoically engage the process without it wrecking your life. If the ex-wife wants to use the children as a sword and a shield against you, it gets much tougher admittedly, but even then you must realize you can't negotiate with crazy and you step back from it. In many cases, when the crazy bitch ex figures out that's not a way she can hurt you - the games chill out to a degree. Besides you should be in a stronger financial position than your wife and you make her appear in front of a judge and explain her actions. Usually when they get backhanded by a judge it puts the fear of God in them. I've seen men have some success doing that - but not if you don't have serious mastery over your own condition. Men that don't have their shit together - mentally and financially - get divorce raped hardcore (except in Canada every dude gets fucked there).

Preparation and diligence is the answer.

[–]TheOuterRing 1 points1 points [recovered]

I feel you on that. As a younger person raised in that environment, I've felt it full force. It's a depressing thing. But allowing it to impact yourself (royal you) is a choice. Which is why I hope this subreddit doesn't lose itself to the anger phase wave. Men will need a place like this to find comaraderie where it doesn't exist much anymore.

I find solace in RPW. The fact that those ladies are serious, critical of their hamsters, and truly enjoy becoming RP shows me that there are just as much women tired of the hookup culture as there are men. Which means, hopefully, we can just let go of the feminazi movement and recognize it for the ugly truth that it was, and learn from it so we never repeat it.

I've known some young ladies that are truly LTR, and even marriage worthy. All in the U.S. I noticed their pattern was a good family/some form of positive parenting. They exist. Very rare though, but it's not lost. And we are recovering. Humans are pretty resilient...but theyre also fantastic at creating horrible times and misery for one another. But they are also capable of great turn arounds and humanity. We just aren't black and white, which means gray always exists.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this post spoke to me. kudos m8

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes... rp mirrors feminism now. kinda sad, thats why dont post anymore... to many man children putting pussy on a top priority while hating them at the same time.

[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Immediately trying to screw the woman instead of building anything.

The interesting thing here is that if you're playing LTR game and evaluating a girl with your unicorn hunter checklist... you'll want to play your usual game to try and seal the deal on that first night... so that you can see whether she'll get out of it/prevent herself ending up in a situation where her instincts take over and she lets you fuck her senseless.

In a way, this should be a win-win... but I've found it has left me feeling a little empty before too. For even if the sex was good... it can't really make up for the potential relationship which you know just disappeared.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 85 points86 points  (17 children)

courtesy of u/Whisper:

Denial: "Women aren't like that! They're people just like everyone else! Treat them all as individuals, and you're sure to find the right one!"

Anger: "WTF! Bitches are all like this! They have no honour, no loyalty, and they don't really love anyone but themselves! Fucking cunts!"

Bargaining: "If I work real hard and learn all the pickup moves, then at least I'll get laid."

Depression: "Getting laid by shallow, obnoxious women has become dull and unrewarding. And there's no sense looking for a unicorn. Maybe I'll just be MGTOW for a while."

Acceptance: "Women aren't bad. My expectations of them, and theirs of me, were based on faulty premises. They are creatures of instinct, just like I am... but of different instincts. If I learn what those instincts are, and teach them about mine, we can develop realistic expectations of each other and get along just fine."

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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

if you can't be happy alone, you will never be happy with a partner.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can't upvote this enough.

If you can't be happy alone, you will never be happy with a partner.

This is such an obvious piece of logic. What's incredible to me is that this sentiment is not found ANYWHERE in our society, EVER. Yet it's so simply and obviously true.

Monk Mode exists for this reason.

[–]1raceAround126 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I think I'm somewhere past acceptance. I'm fine with all women basically being this way and my false perceptions brainwashed into me growing up are exactly that. I get laid more or less when I want and have no problem picking up and plating some good looking girls. I'm not depressed about it or even angry.

The other side of that is what if one day I want kids or to do the settling down thing. Keeping ahead of any girl is a pretty big job psychologically. You have to be one step ahead in any conversation for the dropped-in shit test, you have to cold heartedly eject girls when they go psycho and put up with those around you disapproving of you doing shit like working out, studying and banging sluts. I mean it must be possible, people do get it done. But women are so manipulative and clever, even the most alpha of man-mountains can never know they're committing to a wolf in sheep's clothing until she's dropped a few kids and now fucking most of the neighborhood. I know so many men who have fallen for this.

Bar one, there isn't a single girl I've met in the past 20 months since I started being in a position of being able to manwhore (first time in my life if I'm honest) that I could even begin to think of as being worth any shred of commitment whatsoever. And the one that could be worth it isn't near in a position for any of that.

To be honest, this is why I theorize the middle class (which I'm quite happy to be a part of) will die off quickly. The rich upper class will always inter-breed, it's just how they do. The live-off-the-state low class "don't get up in the morning unless it's dole/cheque day" breed like rabbits and produce scores of braindead kids that will never get educated. But they don't worry about being buttraped for child support since Daddy State takes care of them all. In my opinion, if you're a man with any sort of worth to you (decent job, etc), girls today really aren't worth the risk marrying.

It does a good job of explaining why the UK as a whole is becoming more and more Nationally stupid as the years go by. Seriously, I have been in interview processes for nearly a decade now. The quality of candidates coming through is just getting worse. No doubt about it.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (3 children)

even the most alpha of man-mountains can never know they're committing to a wolf in sheep's clothing until ...

which is why you never commit.

The live-off-the-state low class "don't get up in the morning unless it's dole/cheque day" breed like rabbits

Statistically true.... intelligence is correlated with low birthrates and this is not countered by increased offspring survival rates in our developed West. See the film Idiocracy for this taken to hilarious extremes.

[–]1raceAround126 1 point2 points  (1 child)

which is why you never commit.

This is the part I hate most about TRP. I hate believing this to be true but the fact is, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. It's just absolutely true that women today are just so low quality, commitment is just not even a consideration.

Statistically true.... intelligence is correlated with low birthrates and this is not countered by increased offspring survival rates in our developed West.

Has this actually been proven? I would love to read more as I have seen this first hand for a long time now. Case in point, I had a candidate in this very morning who couldn't count. I shit you not.

See the film Idiocracy for this taken to hilarious extremes.

Fiction or documentary? Actually sod it. I'll just go watch it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

See the film Idiocracy for this taken to hilarious extremes.

I don't even think it's extreme. We just haven't seen it come into full effect yet because we still have 500 years to go to catch up to the movie.

Generations prior to the Industrial Revolution actually had to produce something (even if was producing things for themselves solely for survival) because there was no government assistance. Now absolutely anyone biologically capable of producing offspring, regardless of whether or not they can help that offspring survive, gets assured that the offspring will survive due to government assistance.

We have ~400 years to catch up to that movie and I think what's depicted in that movie is easily within possibility.

[–]Sdom1 23 points24 points  (0 children)

JESUS, you are fucking melodramatic. The light inside of you is extinguished? You can read peoples' hormone levels?

You just need to calm the fuck down. From your descriptions, you are attracting girls who like to be played, and then turning all mushy on them. You're looking for love in all the wrong places, in other words. If you want a codependent type, then look for that.

[–]iammercury 41 points42 points  (11 children)

A "natural psychologist"?

That's not a real thing, I read it as "opinionated with no education to back it up".

[–]samosiazosia 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Exactly my thoughts. OP is full of shit and clearly in the anger phase. Nothing personal, wish him luck.

[–]AngrySmartass 78 points78 points [recovered]

Mate, where are you getting them? Tinder, bars and clubs? NO SHIT, they only want sex. Try the gym, the local library, a salsa course, a spinning class I don't care, but that's where that cute, lovable, innocent, but still lusty potential girlfriend is waiting for you.

Also, you're taking shit too seriously. Life isn't all colorful, accept reality. You make it way darker than it is.

[–]epixs 49 points50 points  (17 children)

Here's the fucked up part though; I've already accepted it though, but as someone else here said...

"that girl you see at salsa class, librarry, gym, etc...was out sucking dick in the ally and now has put on that innocent persona" It's a huge gamble man.

Take solace with your true bro's and dog, women will never give you the comfort your're looking for. It sucks that men are the true romantics, but thats biology.

[–]TheReformist94 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Yeh.women seem better at playing the field than men.they can fuck around and not get attached.amongst the shallow fucking around,its us guys who want an emotional connection and to be loved.they can fuck around and dont even want to commit in their prime.there ability to pair bond reduces dramatically after a few cocks,so they're battle hardened.women were meant to play the field

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

That's not true at all, they end up getting divorced more and it ruins them for life. They're just better at hiding stuff, as you saw she said "don't talk to me" because she was worried she might catch feelings.

[–]TheReformist94 2 points3 points  (3 children)

They get divorced because they dont want to be married in the first place.they marry to socially fit in. If women wanted LTRs and commitment like TRP goes on about,80% of marriages wouldn't be initiated by women.there's so many strict criteria for an LTR to work it just doesn't work.women like to sleep around and provided the bb part of relationship is provided by someone,they have no emotional need for a relationship like a man does

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It could be that there's enormous financial incentive for women to divorce.

[–]BabaYagaaa 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Hey yah, why are men biologically the true romantics? (Not trolling, simply curious about the bio)

[–]epixs 8 points9 points  (5 children)

We want to find a women and take care of her . We long for someone to confide in and shit, but ultimately we know we can't do that. Men are hard but we have a soft side that's reserved for that one women, but the sad thing is if we do confide she loses her rock and sees weakness and vulnerability.

Women are emotional but they really have no loyalty, so really they can never experience the romantic level that men give to their partner .

I think illimitableman went over this concept in a much better way, but that's basically what I was referring to.

[–]BabaYagaaa 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Lol monogamy. I'm searching for a more scientific response, cant find the post you are referring to. Thanks for the speedy reply.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Men can love women unconditionally, even in poor circumstances. A woman cannot love like a man because it puts her at risk of not having enough resources for her and her child, it also limits the potential for finding a newer mate with more resources. Hence why no woman wants a low tier man to fuck or to marry.

Essentially what is said above. Men love like they do, because if every man only cared about bedding the most women, children would suffer a lack of resources in their development. Hurting the group as a whole. Most men were selected for having the ability to stay with a woman for 15-20 years, back when life was harsh and survival was year to year.

Women and men love as they do because its what the species needed to thrive. Women reproducing with a bunch of low tier males would only hurt the gene pool. And men caring more about reproducing than childrearing would also hurt the group, as they would grow up with psychological issues. Look at the top 1% of humans, all fairly well adjusted, where as the bottom 10% have lots of problems, such as drug addictions and mental health issues. Monogomy is a very good sexual option for humans since it protects the stability of a group.

[–]AngrySmartass 4 points4 points [recovered]

Well, there's some truth to that, but don't let generalizations take over your mindset. Here's another perspective I want you to consider; let's say, the cute girl never sucked anybody off in her life. How, then, would she have any idea on how to please you? Do you want to train the virgin like a newly acquired baby dog? Are you going to judge a human being for enjoying sex? That exact judging is why women lie about their sex count and why most of the time you'll have to split her from the crowd, so she's not seen as a whore by her "friends."

[–]BallisticTherapy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Do you want to train the virgin like a newly acquired baby dog?

If that meant I was much more likely to have a lasting, loving relationship then hell yes.

Are you going to judge a human being for enjoying sex?

Theres a difference between enjoying sex and being a degenerate carousel-riding whore who has done burnouts on her pair bonding tires and sacrificed the ability to gain traction in a relationship to the altar of the dark triad.

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[–]spassa 24 points25 points  (9 children)

seems like you are really quick with your decisions. the best advice you have ever gotten? man, turn it down a notch and look after yourself. the better you are, the better the women that get interested in you.


Example: Texted a girl, she responds with "Don't talk to me, if I get randomly horny again I'll text you, til then."

what the fuck, i'd be really pissed

[–]look_good 6 points7 points  (7 children)

That text is on the that happened level... Girls aren't that assertive

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It does happen though.

My current plate started off that way. We were chatting intermittently over the course of a few weeks via email.

**Side note: Yeah, I know, not the best way to get someone but my work and school schedule at the time didn't give me much in the way of opportunities to meet people I didn't work or go to school with.

At any rate one afternoon, she emailed me to see if I was interested in doing something fun later in the week (on Friday). I asked her what she had in mind. She response was "Have sex with me?"

Been a very good and regular plate for almost two years though I think I'm going to have to drop her because she's moving three hours north.

First and only time that has ever happened to me. Obviously I wouldn't count on this working every time.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

It's not that hard to believe is it? It's probably an excuse to stop talking because she's out on the CC. Happens to me all the time.

I meet a girl on Tinder. We hit it off. We sleep together. Most times that I want to see the girl again, she starts texting less and less, saying she's so busy with this and that but never actually lets me down directly. They always try to keep me as a backup option. Or they are trying to avoid conflict. Or they just hate guys and like to annoy us... I'll never know.

I asked this one girl if I'd ever see her again and she responds with, "I'm so busy with everything but maybe you'll get a random text from me late one night"... meanwhile she's still constantly active on Tinder ignoring my last text and talking to other guys. I don't want that kind of slut.

[–]Kill_Your_Ego 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can also check out meetup.com. There are lots of different groups you can join. You could even take just one class at the local community college. Pottery or some art class or something just for fun. And then you meet some college age girls.

Though I've found that AWALT is true. So you just have to accept it and deal with it. Know your risks and that you must always perform. Remember Briffault's Law. Accept that hypergamy is a feature not a bug. And dear God don't get married!

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 16 points17 points  (0 children)

"Looks aren't enough for me anymore. I will now be judging women based on their personalities as well as looks."

It's almost like nobody read any fairytales or myths growing up.


Looks are a minimum, provided you are not Quasimodo yourself of course.

[–]couid 114 points115 points  (8 children)

I'm a natural psychologist. I can read people's emotional states, hormonal levels, reasons behind their intentions, the intentions behind the intentions- EVERYTHING about them. Even the things they themselves don't know (Like what the actual reason is behind a set of behaviors, rather than just the feels that drive the action).

You sound deluded to be honest.

[–][deleted] 117 points118 points  (13 children)

That's fair. I'm 6'3" and 200 lbs. I can grow an extremely manly beard, and I'm considered tall dark and handsome. I'm extremely intelligent- make over 6 figures (Albeit I never talk about it) I invest, have hobbies, I'm an inventor, and otherwise get out every single day. I drive a truck and I'm what a woman otherwise would want commitment from. On the looks scale I'm considered a 9.

No, I'm genuinely considering suicide every single day right now. I'm weighted towards death. Edit: I need love in my life, loneliness is drab.

I'm going be straight with you. You sound like a fucking faggot. I'm on a new account but from the old redpill guard.

When my grandfather was 19, he was fighting the Japanese to the death on Guadalcanal. He was wounded twice, and clinging onto life. The only thing in this world that he wanted was to get home and live the rest of his life in peace and solitude.

You're suicidal because you pick up sluts and discover that they don't love you. AWALT but some are definitely better than others.

Get it together man, and use your great intellect to move your life forward.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP doesn't seem like a real person. Communities like this one lend themselves to being trolled easily. I wonder how often it happens.

[–]hamsterbator 39 points40 points  (5 children)

lol thanks for injecting some sanity in this fuckin thread. this guy thinks he's in some life and death Romeo bullshit

[–]Seishuu 23 points24 points  (2 children)

When did narcissistic, delusional rants become highly-upvoted content on this forum? This is a fucking shitshow.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDownvoteToDisagree 8 points9 points  (1 child)

It's a borderline humblebrag without added value.

[–]TheOuterRing 5 points5 points [recovered]

Dude when you have it all, as he claims, it can feel very lonely at the top. And that feeling is very real. And left to fester, it can consume someone.

Don't doubt the severity of one's problems. Yes, he shouldn't be this depressed over it, but in a culture where we value money over love, and where women seem to be more promiscuous then men...it can hit someone pretty low. We are social creatures, living in a world where being social has changed to something entirely different - over a screen. It messes with people. It's too harsh of a reality to know that true camaraderie seems to be dead. Sometimes reality can feel like hitting the pavement after a ten story fall.

Everyone makes that fall at some point.

But it's not about that. It's about if you're able to get up and repair yourself or not. And often times you need a hand or two. And that's all this guy is looking for. This should be a place of support, not where everyone acts like women and attacks everyone for petty things. We're bigger than that. Or so I hope.

[–]thor133 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Maybe he has depression. There's no need to bring some "my ancestor fought in a war guilt" Everyone has different life experiences and if he really is suffering from depression then it could be serious.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Maybe he does have depression. Maybe he should see a professional. Fine.

Or maybe he's just a pussy, who doesn't need excuses being made for him. Judging by all the whining that I see on this sub, I'm going with the latter.

OP: If you really are suicidal, set up an appointment with a doc.

[–]HardDeterminist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol! I cracked up hard after your first two sentences. Thank you. I never even saw that part you quoted (maybe it was deleted) ,but I would have thought the same. EDIT: Just saw it

[–]JDiculous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right. If you've got all that and you're suicidal, then you don't have your shit together as well as you think you do.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 15 points16 points  (4 children)

"Don't talk to me, if I get randomly horny again I'll text you, til then."

Pure contempt.

[–]square-one 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Only response to this is "I'm not your tool. See you never."

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (46 children)

Build your own frame. You anger now is because the world doesn't work like you thought, and your ego is hurt... That's fine, it's normal, just get your own frame and some outcome independence, and you'll be fine.

Besides, the humble bragging is kinds of weak

[–]Seishuu 5 points6 points  (1 child)

For real. This is not "RP quality content", and I have a hard time understanding the amount of upvotes on this shit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Want to explain why stoicism, internal validation and building your reality is shit?

Would you prefer I call him a faggot and say some anger phase bullshit?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I dont see the issue here.

You are doing the exact same thing to these girls that they are doing to you.

You fucked 5 girls in 5 days, then you change you mind and you expect everything to shift?

You attract what you are man.

Maybe you have to change your approach.

[–]PetrolFlavored 11 points12 points  (0 children)

10/10 on the #humblebrag scale, well done mate.

[–]clam61 12 points12 points [recovered]

Funny. You've become Chad but you don't want to be. I have the same problem too. Girls automatically assume I am a player that will never settle down before even talking to me. I can get some hot chicks to fuck me, but most I would say are scared of being pumped and dumped (which they assume would happen). Many will flirt and even date me, but they will flat out tell me they are scared and I am trouble.

Just to illustrate the type of person I was. I got married at 25. I wanted kids etc. I got divorced, but that wasn't what changed me. It was dating after the divorce. Prior to that I had little experience with women.

A few years ago I could not even fathom dating multiple girls at the same time. Even if it was just casual dating with nothing physical, multiple girls was so foreign to me.

Now at my peak, I fucked 3 different girls for the first time in one day like it was nothing.

It's ironic that these girls turned me into the person I am today.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's ironic that these girls turned me into the person I am today.

The breakdown of patriarchy did it. We used to prevent Chads running wild in the old days. The new rules of a hypergamous society should state that women can have as many Chad babies and the state picks up the cost but as you stated even a Chad (who should be happy) finds the system broken.

[–]turbovolvozzz 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I am become Chad, the destroyer of sluts

[–]SilentAlpha 8 points9 points  (5 children)

There is something about this post that seems too...'expected'.

I'm not going to say its not true. But.....

[–]Reddthrown 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I'll say it. It's OP's "look at me" fantasy post. Entirely too affected, and reads like a grossly exaggerated series of lies.

That bit in particular has "I make stuff up" written all over it: I'm a natural psychologist. I can read people's emotional states, hormonal levels, reasons behind their intentions, the intentions behind the intentions- EVERYTHING about them. Even the things they themselves don't know (Like what the actual reason is behind a set of behaviors, rather than just the feels that drive the action). I've always acted the fool because it's not exactly very social to call people out on their shit.

[–]Avedas 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Chasing relationships is pretty lame in general.

[–]SadKuntVegeta 21 points21 points [recovered]

I feel as though these field reports should include your stats. (i.e. job, income, status, height, physique, hell even a picture of your face.) I know that people aren't going to start doing this, but that way we would be able to view everything rather than just the game aspect. Seeing all parts of the equation would prove to be more enlightening and helpful than just a sniper of something that might work for guy A but not for guy B, due to variations in looks, status, and innate personality, intellect etc.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Where have all the good women gone?

They didnt go anywhere because they never existed. There never were any good women, only good facades and PR.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The point is that these women won't commit to me.

I [50+M] had a great run in my early 20s racking up a notch count of near 50 in about 18 months. I really wanted a GF, but none of these slores wanted a LTR, and the more I pursued them, the less attracted they became to me.

[–]ilovesunfires 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you naturally understood women's intentions and their intentions behind their intentions you wouldn't be surprised by any of this at all.

[–]Freddy_Fedora 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've been happily with my gf for 18 months. Originally I assumed she was a plate but she was dead serious about commitment. I kept fucking her waiting for her to leave or get bored or bump into another guy but she never did.

Eventually I started spending time with her non sexually and a relationship grew. We met at uni and she is very picky about men. To do this day she is still clingy, which I personally like, that validation and affection is nice.

Its a very easy relationship to be in, but I did have to soften up a bit. I couldn't throw a man tantrum and next her everytime she forgot to wash the dishes, or swallow or something else 20 something men demand.

I never enjoyed the single life and feeling like a predator hunting prey.

[–]LionLegacy 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Best advice I can give you is if you want a girl with good values you have to get at them when they are young, the problem is that the age for a non-corrupted girl keeps getting lower and lower in the states to where you would be hard pressed to find an attractive girl 18 or older that hasn't already been with multiple partners.
This is why I plan to go to Europe and just say fuck it and use my looks and game to just slay pussy left and right.
American girls are extremely over entitled and it's 100% the males (albeit beta losers) fault that this is happening

[–]tom_salchichom 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel like there aren't any good women. They're deceptive liars.

If you dig a little further you'll see that they're self deluded, they believe their own lies, so never fight against them.

With time you will come to enjoy your new knowledge, like the judo master, you'll learn to use that force to your own advantage, and actually even if the anger phase is never 100% gone, the tranquility that comes from knowing "what is happening around" will heavily outweigh being BP and constantly shocked by emotional states and justifying them.

A small warning... also don't believe everything you see here...

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

A lot of us have experienced that moment of it works and I'm disgusted or a variation of it.

I want to address something you said, specifically "...The point is that these women won't commit to me..." guess what? Give then enough time and one or more of these plates would want to commit to you and you to her. Remember, one of the pillars of TRP is that women are the gatekeepers of sex, and guys are the gatekeepers of relationships.

Yes, even the ones with whom you had a 3some, give them enough time and they will start dreaming about you proposing and them changing their last name, babies etc...

Who you are looking for is the unicorn. I wish you all the best with that.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How can women put these masks up constantly and not be utterly worn down by it?

Solopsism lets them cue up the hamster to protect them from reflecting on the variability of their feels. It is biological.

As for the rest of your objections re: the lying cheating whores that are women?

Yes, AWALT. They are born to be deceptive, right down to the hidden ovulation trick and their (true!) claims to not even notice what days of the month when they slut it up and become hypersexual.

So what?

My assumption was that I could make a bunch of fuck buddies and then they would introduce me and network that way.

Ahh, got it. You are getting by on good looks and an attitude. Women want to enter YOUR world. You don't enter hers. If you want to start out a LTR by adopting her friends and family, prepare for a world of pain.

[–]sundaybrunch11 3 points4 points  (0 children)

From a recent TRP post:

"From the beginning, nothing has been more alien, repugnant, and hostile to woman than truth—her great art is the lie, her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty."


[–]abdada 6 points7 points  (3 children)

You meet women on Tinder or at bars, you get these kind of women.

It is basic -- women who are broken and need constant thrilling attention seek it out.

[–]Risky_Clicks_NSFW 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Only the Tempted find temptation"

[–]savedarticles 5 points6 points  (1 child)

There is a lot of stupid in this thread. 'look outside of hookup culture' and all this nonsense. Go to a salsa class.... lol. Salsa is full of sluts. The gym? lol. Hoes there too. Cute girl in music class... she's fucking 2 chads too.

Look, AWALT and Tinder is only the visible tip. There is nowhere left to go. Maybeeeee salt lake city and find yourself a virgin mormon girl that is 18 and 1 day.

People here are barfing up the pill because it tastes like shit.

I feel you OP. But I'm not going to BS you and tell you you are going to find what you are looking for by joining a runners meetup... society is way past that.

[–]mugatucrazypills 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you're happiness is attached to anything that women or others do or are you'll end up depressed.

Your post strikes me as slightly manic and depressive at the same time.

I would recommend speaking to a doctor and or getting an assessment. Take care of yourself first.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The point is that these women won't commit to me. Any of them. I actually want a girl to want to commit to me rather than having a one night stand.

I feel you, but maybe try to turn your thinking around if possible. You're the one committing, you have value, and you're the one that women want to be around -- you already showed that in your short FR at the top.

The challenge as you said is finding a woman worthy of commitment. A lot of nexts will happen. You've already identified the types of women you will NOT commit to, and that is freakin' amazing.

Your behavior is up to you, if you aren't into ONS behavior, then it's not required to participate in the frenzied sexfest that is our current societal norm.

Keep up with slaying shit in the gym man -- we don't lift for women we lift for ourselves first and foremost. That goes for bettering yourself in any way, it's not for the pussy, it's for you.

Keep at it man and chin up, nothing in life is easy, especially for a man. Maybe it's time for some "monk mode" as they say - self-introspection, hanging with your male friends instead of going on Tinder dates, and picking up or reinvigorating a hobby.

Best to you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I want to find a beautiful person but they don't exist, they're all taken, or they just cannot be found.

But dude, you've already found us.

My personal motto is simple: Fuck bitches, get meaning. Right now you've succeeded in the former pursuit, but not the latter.

The key is to control the meaning that you give to these events. So you've run into a gaggle of modern whores who use men like dildos, and you've inadvertently assumed the role of dildo. So what? It happens to the best of us. These hoes ain't loyal, dude. What's more: they don't even value loyalty as a concept. Theyre not our equals.

I'm not saying you're Blue Pill. You're not. But I am saying that youre still suffering the side effects of "Blue Pill withdrawal." You're currently weathering the reality shock that occurs when you find out that all women are whores on a fundamental level. Ive been there. I know it sucks. It's like finding out Santa doesn't exist, God is dead, and the Tooth Fairy is a dumb bitch. But it's just true.

How are you going to control the meaning that you give to these events? Are you going to think "women are whores, I hate them?" Or are you going to say to yourself, "Hmm. According to my system of values, women do not live up to my standards of what constitutes a morally good person. I accept this and I will learn to use this fact to my advantage."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

as always on point. this could be a full post on existential fulfilment outside the relationship lock if youre up for writing it i dont have the time

[–]herewegoaga1n 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't expect to fund a housewife at "Sluts 'r' U.S."

[–]MikePatton-yakyakyak 2 points3 points  (1 child)

5 sexual partners all 8+ on the looks scale in 5 days. What the fuck. (One was a threesome with 2 girls) but i'm not still not satisified

Oh, poor baby. Fuck you and your humblebrag.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Man, you'll wear yourself out on beautiful sluts like that. All the ancient cultures on earth knew that male orgasm and ejaculation are a massive drain on the man's system. Somehow in our enlightened modern times we have conveniently "forgotten" all about it. In the words of one Pythagoras, a man can bust a nut, but only if he is ready and willing to have all the higher faculties significantly weakened for a time.

This is an absolutely realistic evaluation in my experience, think about your own history, and in that context you might have an epiphany on the use and abuse of beautiful sluts.

That makes it simple: give women "the gift of you" when feeling way too rich in those higher faculties for your own good. One doesn't expect women to help protect yourself in this respect, of course. The temperance has to be all yours. They're here on earth to suck out everything you've got to give. Best of luck to them too, because without this essentially parasitic activity by the women, there would be no next generation to carry on the line.

[–]SgtBrutalisk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am curious about this link, orgasm - weakening. I know that feeling of weakness after the load is sprayed but I would like to know what others think. Can you share some more material related to that matter? The older the better. Thanks.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorDoxasticPoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good. Let this pain heal you. It will destroy the cloud in front of your judgement so that you may see someone who is truly worth your time.

But remember, AWALT. Some are just worse than others in their ways.

[–]BallisticTherapy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I like how OP is some kind of fantastic mind reader yet is shocked by women's behavior. If you were this amazing psychologist you wouldn't be learning this shit now, you'd have known it a long time ago. This post is OP dick waving because he finally got some pussy. We get it, you got laid.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You're not going to find a decent woman by following PUA and red pill advice, only girls to fuck. Look for girls within the interests you have or are curious about. Example: like tennis? Go play tennis.

[–]lostmatt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP's feeling is caused by bouncing around inside of the biggest echo chamber women have ever created.

The feminist narrative wasn't as mainstream as it is now. Women who don't particularly care about feminism or don't really wish to participate are being dragged in, shamed and possibly cast out, and punished if they don't nod in agreement and shout inside the echo chamber along with everyone else.

Peer pressure is causing a lot of women to participate in the hookup culture when it wasn't their own idea to begin with. Because if they don't, they aren't embracing women's newfound sexual freedom and they are anti-feminist.

What does this mean? Good choices are harder to come by. Look for women that are not as involved on social media, they live outside of the echo chamber.

Men and women who create, who have original ideas, or think for themselves are attractive, more than ever.

[–]ZioFascist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

welcome to the past 7 years of my life. MGTOW 4 lyfe

[–]Throwaway9665 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your emotions are understandable, but unproductive. The world is what it is, regardless of your feelings on the matter.

It sounds like bullshit, but some yoga and meditation would help you here. Seriously.

[–]cariboo_j 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you're still looking for some BP love unicorn. Watch this video and have a good cry.

Some highlights:

Love is a sham. Women do not love men. They only love what men can do for them.

There is no female angelic figure out there who’s going to save you from the pain of your loneliness, who’s going to show you compassion, who’s going to help you. It doesn’t exist.

It clearly is to many men a painful realization. But at some point in time, you need to move past that. If at one point in time in your life your greatest sense of fulfillment was companionship with a woman, you need to find a new sense of fulfillment.

There are a lot of unpleasant truths in life we need to accept and work around. And this is one of them. It is perhaps for the individual man, one of the greatest and most disturbing truths to recognize.

It is a very dark, dark feeling to know you are completely alone. And to know that no one in the world is going to help you out of the hole you are in except yourself. Barring the occasional friend. But unfortunately this perception of the female as a figure of salvation is very much to your detriment my fellow men. It is not healthy. Pursuing that illusion is not healthy.

At some point in time, you must move beyond it. Put it behind you. This is the time to look after yourself. There’s no one else who’s going to do it for you. Barring some occasional friends who may lend you a helping hand.

Stardusk - Coming to terms with reality

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

When you contemplate suicide just remember that there's no guaranty that you're not making a bad situation worse. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. You have no idea what the consequences of that final act are.

Besides, as much as life sucks, it's over before you know it anyways. Might as well try to make the best of it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

are you saying like what if there's hell?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Not necessarily. Maybe, but I wouldn't envision a classical catholic hell. We don't really know what happens and that's the point.

Maybe we're reborn somewhere in the universe with negative repercussions because of it and must go through it all over again until we learn. Maybe it's an extended feeling of falling into a pit with your pain, lasting eons. Maybe that's just it, nothingness, forever...

Anyway you rationally look at it, it makes more sense to keep on keeping on. If you believe in Hell, that's a pretty good reason not to. If you believe in reincarnation then you're probably going to suffer from that decision. If you believe in nothingness then why not make every effort while here since you will soon be nothing forever.

Maybe it's just a reset button and you get to start over? I don't know, but is it worth the risk? If you think about it deeply the only rational action is to keep going unless you're terminally ill and in great pain.

[–]esco_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

makes sense, but the problem is that people are not thinking rationally when they are suicidal

Breaking it down into a rational decision is missing the point entirely

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I changed your flair as this is not a field report. A proper field report has a step-by-step how-to demonstration how you did what you did. This is just a summary at best.

[–]jinougaashu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]ScoobyGang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Relish the game, dive to the next level. You can't ever redesign a system by exiling yourself from it, unless your purpose is to return. You can't change these hoes, but you can change yourself. Expand your horizons and instead of purely just playing these tinder girls. Do something out of the norm, instead of being the funny guy, the guy who reads into everyone, step back. Don't regress but do it with purpose. If it seems like the only winning move is not to play, then how about a game of chess?

[–]moresmarterthanyou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post. I read every word bc I feel like I'm in the exact same boat, word for word. Wouldn't it be nice to settle down with a good girl, build something, have a family? I don't think that'll happen anymore. Top post said somethif about tinder. I've never been on it, all the girls I fuck are 'good girls'. Sucks man. Sucks

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