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[–]grimreaperx2 148 points149 points  (51 children)

The interview is something to watch. Deflects a lot of Barbra's attempts to put him in the spot and he handles it well.

Here is the link of the interview, start watching there, it's worth watching.

[–]RedPillMat 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Fantastic interview, never saw the full thing.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (39 children)

Thanks for the link.

Check out 3:15 for Mr. Universe pre steroids.

You could pick that line of dudes out at almost any gym nowadays.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 17 points18 points  (24 children)

Yeah, it's pretty sad. I have the Encylopedia of Bodybuilding, and they all look like freaks, except for Arnold, who somehow pulls it off, but probably because I've seen all his movies, so it just seems normal. Everyone else looks like they're about to explode. As far as I'm concerned, Bruce Lee should be the model for developing the physique, not some roided out "body-builder." Bodybuilding with steroids is to men what implants and cosmetic surgery are to women.

[–]JORGA 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What? How about frank Zane? Bob Paris? They're all aesthetic.

[–]iopq 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Bruce Lee probably took steroids too, they were legal back then

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If he did, he probably took only a moderate dose to best achieve his goal of being a fighting machine. But I never read anything that indicated he did. When he made Enter the Dragon, he came down from his maximum weight, and weighted 128 pounds. His physique never appeared to be anything other than result of weight lifting, circuit training, and a diet optimized for his body. I read that he took a lot of supplements, but nothing about steroids.

[–]1Sir_Distic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

His diet was pretty much pure cutting. He barely ate or drank. Just enough to maintain. It's believed that his lack of hydration led to his collapse a few weeks before his death.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Now that I have got all my newby gains (about a year back on the fitness tip) Its super tempting, but I don't think I am going to do it.

Its funny I used to be like, "shut up" when girls would complain about airbrushed models and plastic surgery etc. and unrealistic beauty standards. I would laugh when I heard about all the expensive/painful shit they did to try and look hotter.

Now I totally get it. I completely understand the feeling of being like, "fuck, no matter what I do I will never look like that person, unless..."

You gotta keep perspective though. Something like 90% of the population doesn't even lift. For all the other dudes in my shark tank its probably like 70% who don't even lift so unless they are severally genetically superior to me I am bigger than them.

[–]malditoduende 1 points1 points [recovered]

That is a great point. No need to be the best. Just be above average. Of you lift, and make a lifestyle of it to the point where you don't consider lifting exercise but fun, and don't consider dieting diet but normal, healthy nutrition, eventually you will be in the top %20 lookswise. And that is speaking of the overall population, because if you live in a state such as Oklahoma, you'll be the guy all the chicks want. Move to Hollywood and your success will drop.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All valid points. IF isn't a diet for me anymore, its just how I eat. If I don't hit the gym, the next day I feel kind of gross. Its sort of like how you feel the day after a late night Taco Bell gwatting.

And of course when it comes to the SMP its all about the other sharks in the tank. Its entirely possible to be top 10% somewhere then relocate and find yourself middling at best or vice versa. Thats why its always important to actively and accurately identify and size up your competition.

[–]VodkaTankerSpill 2 points3 points  (9 children)

This only shows that you are blue pill about what steroids actually do. You can take all the steroids you want, they ain't gonna do shit unless you train and eat right. The misconceptions about steroids in this forum are fucking mindboggling.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 0 points1 point  (8 children)

I'm aware that it is possible to supplement with steroids safely and achieve good results. However, it depends on what you define as "good results." I don't want to look like the dudes in Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding. It's their job to look that way. They train relentlessly so they can compete, win money, and get gigs related to looking like He-man. It's not sustainable for most people. There is simply no reward in trying to look like that. If someone wants to make that their lifestyle, fine. As for supplementing with steroids to get better results, it just doesn't seem worth it to me. It's just one more thing to think about and wonder about, and I don't need it, so why bother.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (7 children)

what he's getting at is their purpose.

all steroids really do is make your body repair fucking fast. I've had co workers take a cycle, think it was a growth hormone, didn't do anything.

you have to be on a 2x day workout schedule, and on the ball with diet and intensity to take advantage of them, otherwise you'll just get bald, acne and scars

[–]testonator 2 points3 points  (6 children)

That is not true either, its about dosage and what steroids you take.

Google Steroids vs natural study and you will find an article about it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

so you're saying you can take them, and get gains without working like a beast?

[–]malditoduende 1 points1 points [recovered]

No amounts of steroids will allow you yo workout intensely twice per day. Also no amount of steroids will make you hungry enough to eat enough to fully recover from working out twice per day. It is not optimal for hypertrophy nor strength. You still need rest. Steroids are not magic. All they do is make you heal faster. You need a caloric surplus to grow so the more you exercise the more you have to eat. There's a reason weightlifters in general are very serious about how they time their cardio. You don't want to waste any calories that can go into repairing the muscle. This applies with out without steroids. You can get away with working out 6 days a week on steroids, and giving it %100 each session (something you should not do if natural) Your body will heal overnight and very effectively given your diet is great. That's about it.

All this being said, to assume steroids are only worth it to pros is simply very narrow-minded. I suffered a third dregree hamstring pull and a rotator cuff injury after I had over 400 pounds of Hollywood walls fall on me. Needless to say I was off the gym for a long time. When it was time for me to make a comeback I was not going to spend over 2 years gaining my muscle and strength back. Fuck that. Why would I? There's a thing called testosterone, it's dirt cheap and super safe in doses bellow a gram per week. I did a 12 week cycle at 500mg per week and by the end of PCT (post cycle therapy) I maintened 22 of the 25 pounds I had gained. For the uninformed: gaining 10lbs a YEAR is a great achievement naturally.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Pro? The majority of users are men in their 30s who take them specifically for vanity

[–]bertmaklinFBI 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Bodybuilding with steroids is to men what implants and cosmetic surgery are to women.

Your analogy is dead wrong. It is more akin to a hot girl using make up.

You don't just take steroids and magically look different.

You can be on steroids and not look like you are going to "explode". Physique competitors are on steroids just like Bodybuilders.

This guy uses steroids and is only 164 lbs.

164 lbs

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

I prefer girls who look good without make-up. I don't factor make-up into the looks equation. Steroids alter your biochemistry to allow you to change your body shape to what it might ordinarily to be able to achieve on its own. Cosmetic augmentations do the same thing, but without altering the biochemistry. The guy on 'roids doesn't look like the worst excesses I mentioned from Encylopedia of Bodybuilding, but I can still tell he uses. By contrast, my cousin who wrestled at the collegiate level, and was a religious boy scout who never used roids, was strong as an ox, ripped, and did it all through hard work and proper diet. Your body can also be a representation of your character. A man who cheats to get there will never be considered the equal, nor be the equal of a man who got to the same place without cheating.

[–]bertmaklinFBI 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Cosmetic augmentations do the same thing, but without altering the biochemistry.

So steroids are different from cosmetic augmentations. So again your analogy isn't right. You analogy would be perfect if we were talking about synthol.

By contrast, my cousin who wrestled at the collegiate level, and was a religious boy scout who never used roids,

It is funny to me to hear you say this coming from someone who follows TRP. That kind of thinking is very similar to BP thinking.....

A man who cheats to get there will never be considered the equal, nor be the equal of a man who got to the same place without cheating.

Who gives a fuck what other people consider or think? There is no such thing as equal. This is la la land level nonsense.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're never going to make a perfect analogy between the two, since there are significant differences between them. It's one thing if you are scientifically and judiciously using steroids to accomplish some practical goal, like for instance, if you're a police officer who has to potentially beat the shit out of people for a living. It's another thing if you're taking steroids just to live up to aesthetic created by men who take steroids to sell you that aesthetic. For them, they are taking steroids to sell a body image the requires steroids to exist. For the guy that is taking roids to look like them, he's the same as the girl who buys silicone tits to look like the celebrity that got the tits to market them. For every person that makes a rational decision to do these things, you have 10 more that are doing it but getting no practical benefit. The girl who buys the fake tits turns off a lot of guys who like fake tits, and by not working on the real problem: her lack of personality and ability that led to low self-esteem, she never attracts quality men.

Your last argument is valid. Nobody's opinion should matter. I phrased my argument poorly. All things being equal, I guy on roids should outperform I guy who didn't roids. You see this in the professional sports arena, where most or all guys are working their asses off AND taking performance enhancing drugs. But we're talking about the top 1% here, and they have the best doctors and drugs money can buy. The average joe is probably better off not messing with those things. I'd rather work a bit harder, not make as many gainz, but never have to make the Faustian bargain with modern science. My goal is to stay in shape, avoid injury, keep from degenerating, and stay healthy, not try to reach the limits of my genetic potential or die trying; I'll leave that to other people.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

-40% isn't that the new rule?

[–]2rp_valiant 2 points3 points  (13 children)

steroids, eh. Quite a thing.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

I know right? I am tempted to run just one cycle to see how it goes but I already know them gainz would be too hard to resist and I would be a gear head for life after that.

Maybe I should get my T down super low and go to the doctor complaining about not getting boners, going bald, and being a whiny beta and get that TRT on my insurance. Juice from the pharmacy.

[–]2rp_valiant 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I think going bald is caused by too much T isn't it?

"I need a prescription for Derbi50, he's being a total bitch whining at me" lol, beta prescriptions should totally be a thing.

[–]-rubashov 2 points3 points  (1 child)

DHT, which is a byproduct of Testosterone.

So much is genetics though some dudes will go bald at 30 with average T levels others can roid it up massively, knock back pills of Proviron (which is like pure DHT) and never shed a hair. It's what makes predicting the effects of these drugs so hard. Everyone has different side affects.

[–]2rp_valiant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, the endocrine system is incredibly complicated too and has different effects depending on your developmental age and natural hormone balance afaik.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not a 100% sure but I think male pattern baldness is caused by DHT, which is like a shweg ass testosterone.

No doctor over here, but I think after T is done being awesome it can aromatise (transform) into various undesirable hormones like DHT (hair loss hormone) and estrogen (the gynocamastia hormone).

Aromatization is why after someone runs a cycle of testosterone they have to take PCT (post cycle treatment) drugs which stop the testosterone from transforming into broke ass backwash hormones that steal your gainz, make you bald, and give you man boobs.

[–]averageredditor123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think going bald is caused by too much T isn't it?

It can't be that simple. There are plenty of squeaky-voiced, effeminate men who are balding in their early 20s.

[–]2rp_valiant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

too much T as opposed to too little as Derbi50 implied. Of course there are other reasons you could be balding.

[–]tuxedoburrito -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Maybe. I mean I look similar to that and a lot of my friends do as well and we don't use steroids. Just lots of milk and clean meat while lifting heavy several times week. Just takes hard work man.

Now a days it's like insane but I meant that picture shown

[–]2rp_valiant 1 point2 points  (3 children)

that's what I meant - using steroids, a gym casual can look better than the old-school Mr Universe guys.

[–]bertmaklinFBI 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What makes you think they weren't on steroids?

[–]2rp_valiant 0 points1 point  (1 child)

if they were, they were doing it wrong - look at those guys. They look like swimmers, not bodybuilders.

[–]bertmaklinFBI 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have to disagree. A quick look at some photos of Steve Reeves or John Grimek vs Michael Phelps (arguably the best swimmer in history?) shows a clear difference in musculature.

They weren't doing it wrong. The difference with today is most gym casuals have access to Trenbolone (imo the best AAS compound available), GH, Insulin, Diuretics, etc. which makes a remarkable difference when compared to the old school lifters (pre-1980).

[–]Zahoo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This moment is great too. So rational but would make headlines today.

[–]Redasshole 7 points8 points  (1 child)

This interview was made years after he first said that it was OK to slap a woman under certain conditions and he hadn't change his mind.

It's awesome. It means that either he has been shamed a lot but kept his frame/didn't change his mind or that he wasn't shamed but because he was attractive as fuck it didn't cause him any problem. Probable a mix of two. But that's the most impressive thing about this interview for me.

[–]Boygzilla 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He's just totally unresponsive emotionally, which is totally dominant. "I don't care if you want the last word, have it" "I don't want to you to play golf with me and I won't invade your golf game" "I have an opinion and I won't apologize for it"

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Wow that look on Walter's face was priceless. The look of a Hamster on Ludicrous Speed.

[–]mugatucrazypills 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they don't cut back to Walters right away because she splooshed her panties and shorted out her mic.

I would say legally though if Sean Connery was giving this interview today he would probably have to clarify that because of gynolaws that while the woman deserves to be hit, and probably likes it, you shouldn't do it.

I would excuse myself from the room and have my lawyer send the the BDSM contract.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was always amused by his emphasisng the 'if you've settled it, apologized, and she just won't let it go... sure'

And then they proceeds to not let it go

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/u/Ckills, add this to your post

[–]128bitworm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the link. This is serious stuff!

[–]IndyBrodaSolo 198 points199 points  (1 child)

I'm pretty certain that Connery is an actual red pill that grew a head, arms and legs.

[–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 280 points281 points  (48 children)

Before TRP I remember seeing this same interview and being furious that he could be such an 'asshole'.

I read this now and I just want to shake the man's hand.

[–]razorwan 121 points122 points  (0 children)

It is amazing how much your life views can do a 180 as your experience with the world grounds your expectations.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 69 points70 points  (35 children)

My math teacher, a man who I thought was cool and wanted to be like once said to me, "If a woman hits Me, I probably deserve it."

I couldn't understand how he could be so cool and be such a wimp. The dude is a mad genius. But I pity him.

[–]2rp_valiant 61 points62 points  (18 children)

Academics are often on the liberal side. The frankfurt school made sure of that.

[–]Vagabondvaga 8 points9 points  (7 children)

I lean very left but I still dont abide by modern mysandry. Where the RP endorses men over women I part with it, but in a world that has become a mysacracy the person who really believes in real equality and dislikes the cage of the modern relationship becomes an extremist.

[–]2rp_valiant 7 points8 points  (5 children)

yeah, by left leaning I implicitly meant the modern "progressive" movement. I don't agree with communism, socialism etc but I agree they don't imply modern SJW beliefs.

[–]Vagabondvaga 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Well Im no fan of communism, and I think a lot of socialism could be eliminated without suffering if taxes and income favored labor over investment. Basically what much of modern Anarcho-socialism describes. In no way do I think equivalence of outcomes should be the objective, only that actual hard work and invention/innovation be rewarded as opposed to a gambling/market monopoly/market distortion economy. Certainly investment would be needed, and in large scale to make a modern economy work. The way you arrange that is by making all loans and investment run by the government and popular collectivism through grants and business proposals that can be done jointly or individually based on past performance and a new kind of euntrepanuer scoring system. Socialize the risk and reward of investment, with pay based on role and outcomes. It gets a bit detailed but I thinknits doable.

Id also like to see reward for intellectual property being one based on use with no premium to the individuals and organizations making use of those inventions. Reward to the creator would come out of general tax funds and an estimate of use. That way no one has to choose what to experiment with or consume due to the sticker price.

This would allow someone like Musk to still have the impact of Musk in the modern economy with great reward for their talents.

[–]2rp_valiant -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

hmm, I have similar beliefs but can't place my faith in the idea of a government being efficient enough to keep out of the way of entrepreneurs. I consider myself right-libertarian, and would downsize the current UK government probably by about half, optimising key non-enforcement functions through free market competition. I don't even care about the "high taxes" that right-libs always seem to moan about; my primary bugbear with socialist democracy is that big governments are just so damn inefficient and badly run. I've never seen a government department that ran efficiently and hired passionate/intelligent/innovative people.

[edit]: I thought there would've been more right-libs on TRP but it seems from the rate this is getting drive-by downvoted we have our fair share of lefties. Who'da thought?

[–]Vagabondvaga 6 points7 points  (1 child)

The problen is that a corporation of a sufficient size becomes similarly innefficient in my experience. This has to do with distorted markets through lack of competition, which again is not a problem unique to governmental organizations. Im not sure what the tax quantities would look like in my theoretical society but I wouldnt start by assuming they would have to be especially high.

[–]2rp_valiant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yes, in general it's monopolies that become inefficient through lack of competition - then you see startups spring up and challenge the monopoly, charging less due to efficiencies they've researched. This is why I think spinning off sections of the gov to private markets would be a positive thing - gov never has competition internally, at least with private markets there is a chance for some efficiency gains from competition.

Also as far as taxes go I was referencing the right-lib complaint that taxes as they stand (20-30% for the average person) are way too high. I personally don't mind that kind of level, but I'm conscious that when you drive more functions through government (i.e. socialism) taxes have to rise to pay for those functions.

[–]ColdEiric 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Academics are often rich enough to not need to work with their hands. They have connections, a job in the government, a job where there's less competition, or something.

A 'common worker' dies or fails miserably, unless he learns RP-truths. Academics, and spoilt, rich kids, and gorgeously, hot girls; they do not need to learn the RP-truths, because they do not die without them. They go through life sort of okay without RP-truths. Until they decide to learn them. Or when they fail miserably, but it's too late to learn them.

[–]bayerndj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Complete bullshit. The academic "industry" can be very cutthroat (esp as tenure positions are cut) and as far as working with hands (whatever that means in 2015) is no more different than any other office worker.

[–]SupermanSpankedLois 4 points5 points  (13 children)

Weird...see, I read that from the perspective of a martial artist, at which point it makes total sense to me. As someone with better than average skills at defending oneself, a male martial artist would very likely think: "If a woman hits me, I probably deserve it."

I read the "me" in that statement as "me, personally". You maybe read it as "me, a man"? Anyhow, that's my 2 cents.

[–]cascadecombo 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The fuck?

No they would not, that sort of mindset is the mindset of a defeatist and a weak minded person.

Women are led by emotion more often than not, and emotion blinds logic. They will strike a person much larger than them if they have even the slightest inkling that they may get away with it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

That's the thing. The guy is saying he is such a badass, there is no way he wouldn't dodge or block the woman's attack if she ever tried to attack him, and if he did manage to get hit, he would deserve it, because he didn't train hard enough.

Not in the "men deserve to get hit when a woman wills it" kind of way.

[–]cascadecombo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Because, for example, a guy will always know if a crazy girl he is dating comes behind him to slap in in the head instead of giving him a hug.

[–]RPthrowaway123 -4 points-3 points  (8 children)

That makes sense. If she hits you know full well what your capable of, then you must have fucked up pretty bad.

[–]cascadecombo 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Bullshit, women do not think about their actions.

Haven't you see times when women hit men because they assume their pussypass will get them out of it for free?

Fix the way you think buddy.

[–]RPthrowaway123 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I didn't say she was right, just that I probably fucked up something pretty badly that it escalated to this. If things escalate in this manner, you fucked up at some point. It's like winning a fight at the bar...sure, you won, but you shouldn't have had to fight at all.

[–]cascadecombo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Again, you don't seem to understand just how unstable/crazy even the most normal looking girl could acctually be.

And no, you don't have to fuck up.

Lastly, what? Comparing some chick hitting you to a bar fight, that is pretty far off.

[–]RPthrowaway123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

...the point I'm trying to make is that if you end up in a physical altercation you probably should have taken action at some point to remove yourself from the situation, before it got to that point.

[–]cascadecombo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And the truth of the matter is, you don't have to be doing anything necessarily for someone to actually being something like that before you have the opportunity to go somewhere else.

Especially if we are talking about any sort of domestic interaction.

[–]Neuermann 4 points5 points  (2 children)

You are assuming that an angry woman is a logical being.

[–]RPthrowaway123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No, just that I failed to diffuse or remove myself from the situation before it got to that point. I never said the woman must be right.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm on your side here. There is no fucking way I am spending my time arguing with my woman, and getting us both pissed off and deeper in a hole.

I'm just like "later bitch, I'll be back when you calm the fuck down".

Few hours and a couple of ignored texts later, and it's like the problem never even existed in the first place.

A few years ago with other girls I would have tried to "talk it out", resulting in escalated bullshit arguments, yelling, and a night of irrational tears for her and sexless guilt for me.

A strange game, fighting with a woman. The only winning move is not to play.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (5 children)

It's different times now though. These days a man will get jailed for domestic abuse for less then an open-handed slap. The government serves as a legal backing for the feminine imperative

[–]Redasshole 22 points23 points  (4 children)

This is one of the reasons why raising a family is not a possibility for me anymore. You basically enter a relationship which is very, very difficul to leave with someone who can disrespect you, humiliate you, hurt you physically and psychologically on a daily basis without you being able to do anything. Your authority is taken away from you and given to the women. As it were decades ago, one is in charge of authority. However, men were good to their wife if they behaved right. Women nowadays, because of their crual nature and of their feminist conditioning which leads them to hate men and masculinity, will never be good to you, ever. Plus, if you try to "behave right", you will fall under the pathetic beta category and she will despise you. Really, every way you look at it, you can't be successful in having a loving relationship.

Your power as a man? None. Your happiness? None. All of that for what. Daughters who will treat you the same their mother do? Boys who you won't be able to raise in a healthy way? Teach them to be tough and everyone will consider you are a monster for not buying them what they want, for forcing them to take physical exercise, to get up early to make them disciplined men...And they will resent you themselves. Most of your ressources will be used for them while they will especially have a relationship with their mother while your relationship with her will fade away once she has the kids.

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[–]mugatucrazypills 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the bigger issue than saving for another land rover is that it's impossible to effectively parent a child under marriage 2.0

any adult difficult decision you make, or boundary you set, will be sabotaged by the whim of the "most responsible teenager in the house"

Wife 2.0 is more interested in winning points from the other housewives in her view culture and being the childs' friend and playmate than parenting

Most modern women are dispositionally incapable of giving lessons, or leading a structured activity with a child

Soon daddy is gone, and the state is the new husband(an abusive one at that), with 8 year old kids sleeping in mommys bed and all the cognitive dissonance associated with that.

Like office space, they'll do one or two family related tasks a day under duress totaling 15 minutes of real work, then spend the next 2 weeks demanding special credit for it.

With most things related to women it's easier to do it yourself.

[–]Sherlock--Holmes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. All of this "equality" is actually making it unequal. What we had was equality.

[–]mugatucrazypills 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no sex with the wife while there are kids are around, no relationship after ... great deal

[–]SmegRimmer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was about to write pretty much this exact same thing!

[–]Sherlock--Holmes 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I've been red pill my whole life, I'm 48. It's good to see some converters.

[–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I was an overweight white-knighting mangina when I was growing up. I don't want to know where I would be now without TRP.

[–]mugatucrazypills 1 point2 points  (1 child)

At the pharmacy filling your insulin prescription ?

[–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Provided that I hadn't hung myself already, probably.

[–]tindermaster1986 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Barbara trying so hard to tweak him, but he holds tight. Comes off much like his big-screen counterpart 007.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mr Connery pulled her into his frame and didn't let her out for even a second. She was fighting it so hard to but she knew she was in the presence of a king

[–][deleted] 242 points243 points  (52 children)

Great post.

To our younger readers: DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A REASON TO HIT WOMEN...DO NOT HIT WOMEN UNLESS THEY STRIKE FIRST. HITTING A WOMEN FOR THE FUCK OF IT IS A MAJOR LOSS OF FRAME.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 68 points69 points  (7 children)

Would caution against striking back, even in retaliation. Connery's assessment is spot on, but we don't live in his world anymore. Chick could be swinging at you with a knife, if you bruise her most courts will pin you as the aggressor, and the one spending time behind bars.

No bitch is worth jail time.

[–]orilyrily -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your damned either way, she can and will hit herself to get you into trouble.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

One way I need a lawyer, the other I need a doctor.

I'd rather have the lawyer, but chances are, I'd see it coming and fuck off before it got that far

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Running away only wounds your pride. In this feminized society it's sadly the only real choice.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never found pride to be that helpful, it's gotten me into a lot more stupid situations than it's gotten me out of. Self respect and dignity tend to work much better IMHO

[–]ChadThundercockII -1 points0 points  (2 children)

There is a method to hit someone without leaving bruises. A blow to the abdomen to start with. And if you are aiming for the head, put a water bottle in a sock and swing it. No bruises, guaranteed.

[–]mugatucrazypills 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You could give somebody a jab or 2 to the kidneys, it's very painful but the skin is thicker there and doesn't bruise easily.

Too much and they'll piss blood.

Never do anything like this please.

[–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have to. Some of you lift, I fight. Liver shots fucking hurt too. I took two of them this year alone.

[–]Kidnow123 100 points101 points  (28 children)

I would have to escalate it a bit and say don't even hit her if she hits you, women are easy as fuck to detain so just hold her down. You're going to be fighting an uphill battle if ever in court. Unless she has a weapon, then keep yourself safe by all means.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (3 children)

I do agree, the only time I would hit a woman is if she was going for more than a smack. Like she was literally trying to cause serious physical damage.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I still think you're better off fleeing unless she of course pulls out a gun

[–]cesarfd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or if you're lucky / provident /able to record everything.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is advice for 99.9% of physical altercations.

Capability, and intent are the two factors inherent in violence. Range is the best way to remove capability, since you cannot control intent

[–]chessercat2003 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Ha, be careful even in "detaining" her. Look up the law on domestic violence and you will see what your option is: Leaving. Lesson learned the hard way...

[–]Kidnow123 18 points19 points  (2 children)

So holding the arms of a woman until she calms down and stops hitting you could still be considered domestic violence? Well damn, color me not surprised. Looks like leaving and never turning back it is.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is going to get you jail time, that's how real it is, for some nations.

Even if she's doing this in your place in those bad nations like Murrica you're expected to abandon your own residence and leave her there to do anything she damn well pleases and have no recourse because you can't prove she took/broke something, that you didn't just do it yourself.

I shit you not. If she refuses to leave odds are in Murrica she now controls the place and you could be barred by law from returning.

This is a real thing that's actually happened.

Solution: leave America for good. For GOOD. And until then never let bitches near your home. Ever.

Have a motel, car or random place to fuck them.

[–]Sementeries 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Some women bruise easily, so I'd just leave and not touch her whatsoever.

[–]TomHicks 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I would have to escalate it a bit and say don't even hit her if she hits you

Sod that.

women are easy as fuck to detain so just hold her down.

And then get piled on and kicked in the head by 20 white knights who saw you holding her down.

You're going to be fighting an uphill battle if ever in court.

You're going to fight it even if you DON'T hit her back.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Yes or push her hard as fuck and then walk away.

[–]mutageno 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Absolutely. And you might be guilty of getting yourself in that situation with a crazy bitch.

Don't put your dick in crazy. If your bitch turns crazy, walk the fuck away at the first red flag.

[–]1oldredder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

most of them are crazy, though.

[–]RPthrowaway123 3 points4 points  (8 children)

If you even leave a bruise, you're fucked. If she gets aggressive lock yourself in a bathroom or something until police arrive. And make sure to record everything that is happening in such a situation!

[–]mugatucrazypills 1 point2 points  (2 children)

there is a member of the Canadian senate who did just this ... "No Dice"

common law partner decided one evening that she no longer approved of his political leanings and principles based on based on her campus leftist empowerment class and demanded he change himself and his entire life immediately

he instructed her to leave and retreated to an upstairs bathroom securing the door and refusing to leave the home he owned

after some time unsuccessfully trying to provoke him into a violent altercation to win a cash and prices lottery she called the police and informed them that she had been "sexually assaulted"

The Canadian version of the guardian national paper, a filthy publication called the (Red) Star, dutifully printed "Rapist" in large print as the headline page 1 the next morning.

Physical evidence is more consistent with him having bumped into her near the top of the stairs while trying to get away from the bi*h.

[–]RPthrowaway123 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah in some cases all you can do is get out of there and salvage the pieces. In this day and age a man's life can be ruined in an instant, and with no proof to boot.

[–]mugatucrazypills 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he tried to keep the live in mattress from stealing his house and instead he's been in lockup/court for the last 2 years

[–]Kidnow123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hope I never run into a crazy bitch like that. Thanks for the tip!

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

without the recording: doesn't work. Bitch can just bruise herself when you're not looking.

You learn to figure out which women will act out and cut them off immediately. I mean solid cut, not in your life ever again. Period.

Or live where there are no such cultures and laws.

Besides, you don't need to leave a bruise to make there be pain. The trick is the pain must be quick and sharp, not lasting, because it's shock value.

Like spanking a child, not having a bar fight.

If she picks up an object to use as a weapon all bets are off. Flat out: disarm her, ensure she knows she fucked up bad and make it clear if she tries to use a weapon again she'll dig her own grave and that's no joke.

[–]Primemale 0 points1 point  (2 children)

THAT IS FAGGOT AS FUCK.

America can't be that bad, surely? My country (EUROPE) is bad but if a bitch is attacking me and there aren't people around to come to her aid, she's going down. just restrain her/pick her up/throw her on the ground. if she punches me, then she's getting at the very least a massive backhand back. I see no problem with this at all apart from potential legal ramifications.

[–]RPthrowaway123 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Potential legal ramifications if where you get fucked. In the US many places have "primary aggressor" laws that state that if the police are called to a domestic disturbance they MUST take the man to jail for a night.

It's unfair, it sucks, but I'd rather be safe than smack her once and end up on the receiving end of the long dick of the law.

[–]bayerndj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not what the laws state, but I agree it happens more often than not due to laziness/bias/CYA in law enforcement.

[–]evilquesadilla 6 points6 points [recovered]

Yes, times are different now. The legal system is on the women's side.

[–]mugatucrazypills 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What isn't as much discussed here is that there is a significant portion of the female population that is deeply Aroused by Violence, and even physical abuse.

The founder of the first women's shelter allegedly found that a good half of the (battered)occupants would systematically provoke violence, anger, abuse in their partners. In addition they would seek out men who had mental issues and coping problems to make it easier to get to this danger, excitement threshold.

Why would a woman taunt an high level alpha like Connery anyways ? ... because at least in part because she wants to be slapped around as she finds this exciting There are even women who can only come this way !

If it goes right, she gets her rocks off with a dangerous man. If it goes wrong your life is ruined. Women will advance systematic provocation (one of Pizzy's violence-addicted women would steal her partners ID he needed to keep his job) because the risk(real injury or you going to jail) reward always favors them(tingles/orgasm).

You don't owe any woman(especially a deranged one) an exciting danger thrill ride at the risk of your life and well being.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

Soon after establishing her first refuge, Pizzey determined that much domestic violence was reciprocal,[27] with both partners abusing each other in roughly equal rates. She reached this conclusion when she asked the women in her refuge about their violence, only to discover most of the women were equally as violent or more violent than their husbands. In her study "Comparative Study Of Battered Women And Violence-Prone Women,"[28] (co-researched with Dr. John Gayford of Warlingham Hospital), Pizzey distinguishes between "genuine battered women"[28] and "violence-prone women";[28] the former defined as "the unwilling and innocent victim of his or her partner's violence"[28] and the latter defined as "the unwilling victim of his or her own violence."[28] This study reports that 62% of the sample population were more accurately described as "violence prone." Similar findings regarding the mutuality of domestic violence have been confirmed in subsequent studies.[29][30]

Her book created protests, bomb threats, defemation campaigns, and attacks by feminists. The bomb squad required that her mail be checked.

Promotional events for the book were met with protest,[32] and Pizzey reports that she herself and co-author Jeff Shapiro needed police protection during the promotional events for the book.[4][5] Already dealing with harassment, death threats, bomb threats[33] and defamation campaigns,[34] In 1981, following on from overwork, near collapse, cardiac disease and mental strain,[35] Pizzey moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico. She states that the turning point was the intervention of The Bomb Squad who required all of Pizzey's mail to be processed by them before she could receive it, as a "controversial public figure".[36] The actions of Scottish Women's Aid in attacking her when she was asked to stand for the position of Rector for Aberdeen University in 1981 were also significant.

Pizzey demonstrated tha that women are in fact not womderful, they provoked violence with violen. People would not stand for such claims.

"Scottish Women’s Aid made it their business to hand out leaflets claiming that I believed that women ‘invited violence,’ and ‘provoked male violence’".[34]

While studying paedophylia rates, she found that just as many women constituted this category as men. While this research was being conducted, someone shot her dog, and someone stole the other

Pizzey said of this work "I discovered that there were just as many women paedophiles as there were men. Women go undetected, as usual. Working against paedophiles is a very dangerous business."[25] Whilst living in Santa Fe one of her dogs was shot and two others were stolen, which she claims was a result of racist neighbors.[33] Her family suffered new harassment following the publication of her 1982 book "Prone To Violence". Pizzey links much of the harassment to militant feminists and their objections to her research, findings and work.[33][34][37] Deborah Ross of The Independent has described it as "The feminist sisterhood went bonkers.

She never wanted to be a feminist

Pizzey said in 2009 that she has "never been a feminist, because, having experienced my mother's violence, I always knew that women can be as vicious and irresponsible as men".

This is gold information.

[–]Entrefut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless you're already screwing, then make sure you hit the right spot.

[–]ColdEiric 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Why would a guy hit a girl?

If you just say the right words and give her the feelbads, she will hit herself, and you can go on with your life. The life you have without her.

[–]nutty_bi -1 points0 points  (1 child)

She can hit herself and then later claim you did...

[–]ColdEiric -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I meant self-flagelation.

People eat unhealthy food, drink lots of alchohol, smoke cigarettes, never exercise enough, and lots of of other self-destructive habits. Instead of hitting her, praise something stupid of what she's doing.

Don't try it on your own, if you do not think that you're able, you lack the silver tongue, or you're not RP enough to do it. Don't do it, if you think it'll be traced back to you.

[–]JohnnyElBravo -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

What is this mixed message?

Sean Connery is suggesting that you hit a woman not in self defense.

If a woman is a bitch, or hysterical, or bloody-minded continually, then I’d do it.

How is it a great post?

[–]mate96 1 point2 points  (4 children)

There is a difference of "hit" compared to what he described, which is the open palmed slap. That's not going to hurt anyone so I don't see why you can't do that. Even then women are getting off lightly, most dudes would have a real punch up if someone was aggravating them.

[–]JohnnyElBravo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You feel a slight tingle on your face. 1/10 in a scale of unpleasantness. Someone you care about is now trying to hurt you. 4/10 in a scale of unpleasantness. Everyone feels like there's nothing wrong with it. 6/10 in a scale of unpleasantness.

Personally, every time I have been hit or abused, the mental part was far worse than the physical part.

But whatever, just don't hit people.

[–]mate96 2 points3 points  (1 child)

A woman is being a bitch, hysterical or bloody minded, 10/10 unpleasantness for everyone in the vicinity. I'm only advocating for lightly slapping women who have done something that warrants it.

[–]JohnnyElBravo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was kind of saving 10/10 for seeing your family violently murder and stuff like that, but sure. If a woman makes you feel so unpleasant, then you should just leave. That's not a person you want in your life.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly this call is on you morally. If a women was literally trying to hurt me, not smacking me out of frustration, she might get a open hand slap

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (11 children)

Sean Connery is such a badass. So proud he is from my city.

Believe me or don't I don't care but he used to work for the Co-operative chain of supermarkets as a milkman, my friend's grandfather used to work with him. Turns out he was hated by a lot of his co-workers for being "up his own arse" as my friend's grandfather put it. He also told us this was in part due to him being a real "lady's man" and people being scared he was going to steal their girlfriends.

I've seen him around my city once too with his wife. He is old as fuck now but just radiated this air of just not giving two flying fucks. He is a true boss.

[–]gmflag 19 points20 points  (6 children)

I believe that. I heard an interesting story about how Sean Connery got the role. Actually how he got recruited for Bond was Albert Broccoli (the first producer of Bond) and Saltzman were not only impressed by his acting chops when he auditioned despite coming in unkempt and rather untidy, but also Albert Broccoli's wife had the hots for Connery in an almost AF/BB way. She was like this is the man you are looking for and instinctively picked up on his suave and charm. She said to Broccoli you can teach him how to be a gentleman through the film and he got the role based off that.

[–]philxd395 2 points3 points  (5 children)

If possible, can you elaborate on how Connery was able to catch Broccoli's wife's eye? I'm curious as to what he did exactly that woo'd the ladies like like you and /u/Stiffmajj mentioned. Was he just being himself and not giving fuck while going to the audition? You said he was suave and charming, but according to Stiffmajj, he made him out to be arrogant by his coworkers.

[–]gmflag 8 points9 points  (1 child)

it was on a documentary about Bond. According to the documentary, Broccoli's wife was watching some of the auditions. Immediately after Connery's audition, Broccoli's wife immediately told Albert Broccoli that Connery was the man he was looking for. She just couldn't stop going on and on about how Connery had that suave and charm despite looking so rough and unkempt. She said even though he came across bad and tough, she couldn't help but feel he had such high potential to be a true gentleman. He could be trained to be a gentleman, but that natural suave and charm other men would not match according to Broccoli's wife.

[–]mugatucrazypills 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he must have slayed that Broccoli pussy pretty bad

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I will say Scotland is a very parochial country. Have any higher interest than working, shagging or drinking and you will be considered a weirdo or "up yourself" or showing off by a lot of working class people. I can only imagine how much worse it would have been in the 40s and 50s. Body building and drama? I would have been abused into a million pieces, called a poofter and told I was "up my own arse."

[–]mugatucrazypills 2 points3 points  (1 child)

the hazing builds character

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does indeed, Scotland has a culture of brutality and hardcore hazing. I have been living in a different country now for 2 years where a lot of that behaviour is deemed unacceptable, I am looking forward to returning in 2 weeks. I remember the first time I made a joke implying someone was a homosexual; the dude almost wanted to fight me right there and then.

[–]1Snivellious 5 points6 points  (3 children)

He's an absolute legend. Here's a great story about him and Michael Caine in their broke-but-sexy days: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/158913/Michael-Caine-s-hooked-on-007

[–]Rathadin 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I love the fact that "getting into all that bodybuilding stuff" meant looking less defined than the average hardworking male gym-goer today.

[–]1Snivellious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And still made him Mr. Universe. How times change.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the way you look actually eating healthy, lifting right and not being loaded up on lab-produced hormones.

[–]riverraider69 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Sean Connery was one reason I doubted TRP - why go lift if there is living proof that a guy who can charm his way with the ladies without touching iron?

Until I found out he started his career with professional bodybuilding.

[–]ChadThundercockII 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There is no way out man. We are bound to lift.

[–][deleted] 89 points90 points  (37 children)

THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!

Hitting girls is a terrible idea in this day and age. I am not going to debate the fairness/morality of the state of modern taboos, only state the facts.

If a girl hits you a dozen times and you hit her once, you will be the one who gets in trouble.

Even if its on tape a girl attacking you, you will still probably end up in court (lawyer fees, black mark on your name via the google, etc.) and may lose.

Even restraining a girl can leave her with bruises that she will point to as abuse.

There is almost no situation in which hitting a girl has a positive outcome for a dude. Unless its fucking Brienne of Tarth running up on you to do her duty, just extricate yourself from the situation.

END PSA.

Also keep in mind that Connery said that shit in the 60s, when slapping an out of control/hysterical person was seen along the same lines as pounding a choking man on the back.

[–]rockymountainoysters 23 points24 points  (22 children)

There's a great scene in "Chinatown" where Jack Nicholson slaps Faye Dunaway repeatedly while she's transparently trickle-truthing a key plot detail.

Comes as quite a shock to modern Western eyes, but one should keep in mind that a lot of the rest of the world still views such things as quite ordinary, and even we ourselves in the West did as well, only recently having succumbed to hyperfeminized societal hysteria.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (21 children)

Yeah when you watch older movies/TV shows its fairly common for the AMOG to slap some beta and be like, "get ahold of yourself man!" without any insult taken or intended.

I was watching Mad Men the other day and there is a scene where a kid is running around playing and he spills the drink of an adult man who isn't his father. The guy hauls off and decks the kid pretty good as the offending childs father walks up.

The father is like, "whats going on here?" and as a modern viewer you assume the father is going to get pissed this guy hit his kid.

The hitter says something like, "just teaching your boy some manners."

Little boy says, "It was an accident!"

Father says, "You want some more (hitting)! Go get your mother and tell her to clean this up!"

Awesome.

The idea that hitting isn't OK is very new. When Adrienne Pederson got caught whooping his son he didn't try to lie or weasel out of it, he was just like, "yeah he needed a lesson so I got a switch and learned him one" not realizing society doesn't allow parents to discipline children anymore.

I spent some time in a Caribbean country. I was at a school and I heard this THWACK followed by screeches of pain. Principles still flog children down there who don't toe the line. Take a guess at how much disrespect "behavioral issues" they have in their schools. HINT: Its not much.

[–]jmg83 6 points6 points [recovered]

Hitting a kid just for spilling a drink? That's fucked up.

[–]wanderer779 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I think the point is the kid shouldn't be running around with a drink in the first place. You drink your drink and then you go play.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Kids don't have fully developed brains, they cant control their muscles or attention. I see it as despicable as hitting an elderly person because they lost control and dropped something.

My dad hit me a lot as "discipline", but it never taught me why I shouldn't be misbehaving, it was teaching me to avoid getting caught by my dad and carefully hide shit from him and tie up loose ends when lying to him. I could never reveal a problem I had, because I would then have two problems. This caused me to isolate from him very early, and I pretty much stopped talking to him at all by high school. I'm in my mid 20's now and our relationship is de-facto nonexistant, and I have absolutely no desire to reach out to him despite his multiple attempts.

Every time you hit your kid, you are missing an oportunity to actually teach them valuable negotiation skills, while at the same time distancing them from you. Negotiation ends when violence is involved.

Tl;DR:Don't hit your kids, it fucks them up.

[–]wanderer779 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear what you are saying and I have never hit a child and don't plan to hit mine. However there are a lot of people who were spanked who grew up to have normal relationships with their parents.

There seem to be few parents these days who can figure out how to take a middle ground on discipline, especially among lower class folks.

My mom spanked me and I have no anger about it. I have other reasons why I don't like her, but I won't get into that here for lack of space.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually if I remember correctly it was the hitters drink, like the kid somehow skilled his scotch. I donno maybe I should find the clip.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It takes a village to batter a child.

[–]tallwheel 2 points3 points  (1 child)

A lot of the "old fashioned" behavior you see in Mad Men is nothing more than a modern interpretation of how people used to act - imposing our own society's modern liberal value judgments on the actions of these fictional "old fashioned" characters. I would take all of it with a grain of salt.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perhaps. I've no idea how things really were back then, I only have other people's accounts.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (9 children)

It actually isn't - depends on the damage done but really - if you want kids that spill fucking drinks forever-after with no understanding what bastards they are, the one way to ensure it is to make sure they suffer nothing for the mistake.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

And you think hitting them is the answer? Come on, don't be silly. The parents would probably make the kid apologise, if they saw it.

[–]1oldredder -1 points0 points  (7 children)

I know hitting them is the answer some of the time.

Making a kid apologize probably won't work, that's why kids who grew up that way are constant fuckups, careless and without comprehension as adults.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (6 children)

And what good do you think hitting a kid, not even for bad behaviour, but for an offence as trivial as spilling a drink, will achieve? Besides making the kid grow up resentful, of course.

[–]1oldredder -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

it's bad behaviour.

It's not trivial.

That shit-poor attitude is what makes generations of losers.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Knocking a drink over by accident is bad bad behaviour? Jesus. I feel sorry for your kids.

[–]Avedas 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A lot of baby boomers did turn out pretty fucked up, so the logic checks out.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah. They defend that kind of treatment, calling it "discipline", but it's obvious that a lot of them were affected by it. My parents hit me when I was a kid, often for stupid reasons, but I can't imagine getting it from strangers.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"I never hit a girl but i shake the shit outta you" -kanye

[–]waynebradysworld 3 points4 points  (10 children)

Actually the Walters interview was from 1987. Quarter century after the 60s.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (9 children)

Right but he was being quoted from a 60s interview. Even if he had changed his stance or mind about slapping girls to admit to it, even 20+ years later, would have been a loss of frame and possibly done damage to his earning potential.

As we have seen with Trump it doesn't really matter what you say or how you say it. What matters more is your willingness to speak plainly and not back down.

[–]1Snivellious 1 point2 points  (8 children)

I don't quite agree with that summary of Trump. What you say matters hugely, at least in terms of whether you respond to the question.

Virtually all interviews with 'controversial' figures are conducted in "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" fashion - questions are framed so that any direct response loses. You can challenge the assertion and be accused of evading, reject the challenge and be lying or stonewalling, or accept it and be confessing.

Trump's mastery is his absolute unwillingness to take leading question as it's asked. Reporters aren't supposed to ask the same question more than once (maybe twice) because it's bad TV, so he simply ignores them or disagrees.

He says "only Rosie O'Donnell!" and no one gives a shit that it's not true. You're right that he doesn't back down, but that includes refusing to answer some questions.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Eh the refusing to answer questions thing is pretty standard for politicians, some to the point of ridiculous.

In that first republican debate it was on full view. Basically it went like this.

Moderator asks pertinent question. Candidate makes 8 syllable non committal vague answer to original question then goes off on some unrelated canned speech about freedom sauce or Americafuckyeah or God™.

I remember this interview not long ago where an American politican (can't remember who) was being soft ball interviewed in England. The reporter asks something like, "Do you believe in evolution?" and the politician says, "I am going to have to punt on that one."

Are you fucking kidding me? Yes or no.

Trump on the other hand would have answered that question and if he didn't like the question would have made the interviewer feel stupid after he answered it.

[–]wanderer779 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I saw a good one the other day with Ben Carson where a farmer asked him his opinion on crop insurance program. He talked about how entrepreneurial risk-taking is an american virtue and how we need to do what we can to encourage that. Of course the whole point of the insurance program is to take some of the risk out of farming, but whatever. I guess what he was trying to say was, we need to ensure there is no risk in order to encourage risk taking. Of course he never answered the damn question, but he did his best to make you feel like he was behind the farmers and business and God and the troops and baseball. All in all it was a decent performance. He's got the bullshitting down, now he just needs to quit speaking in a monotone and grow some fucking charisma which probably isn't possible.

It would be cool if we could get a guy who just said, "I don't know dick about farming, I'l put somebody else on it and hope he doesn't fuck it up so bad that it ends up on the news" which is probably as close to the truth as anything. Hell it would be nice to get someone who would actually say anything.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I heard a speech Carson gave about when he was younger.

He said he tried to stab this guy in the guts with a knife and the only reason the guy didn't die was because he hit the guys giant belt buckle and snapped the tip of the blade so it didn't have any puncturing ability.

I was like, "Holy shit, this guy is a mild mannered psycho."

[–]wanderer779 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Now I am imagining him as a young street tough, robbing people while simultaneously lecturing to them about the lost virtues of America.

The fact that he is a neurosurgeon who doesn't believe in evolution is arguably more troubling than the fact that he used to be a criminal.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Right? How the fuck do you go through med school, participate in all kinds of cutting edge research, yet still deny the ubiquitous and thoroughly accepted theory of evolution?

[–]wanderer779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

religion has a powerful impact on people. Probably also explains why I am getting downvoted for my previous comment :)

[–]1Snivellious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As much as I don't like him, I'll give Trump credit for saying very nearly that. He got a fairly in depth question about the Iranian Quds Force, completely flubbed it, and then answered "The day after the election, I'll know more about it than you ever will."

[–]mugatucrazypills 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm tired of hearing them talk.

If I was a candidate I think I'd just say "America Fuck Yeah!" "Freedom Sauce" to every question and run with that.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a girl hits you a dozen times and you hit her once, you will be the one who gets in trouble.

Depends.

If you're in the wrong culture, wrong nation, wrong laws, could be.

Best move: emigrate. If you're stuck in one of those bad nations for now the best move is to ensure you don't let women get close enough they feel empowered to break your shit, chase you around screaming at you, or hit you.

Ever.

Where I've seen it come into play well is the woman steps out of line, the man lets the woman know she will get hit if she won't stop hitting or won't stop breaking things, and if she calls police she'll end up facing some other much larger woman who will break her fingers and scratch her face just about off.

And it works. Frame held.

[–]Amozmozes 26 points27 points  (6 children)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The best part of that clip was when it ended and autoplay started this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t1_usmB30s

[–]Amozmozes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Who'sh your connechtion!" SMACK!

[–]sourpuss_ashkenazi -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

5:13 is straight up rapey...c'mon.

[–]theredpillstud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That clip remind me of sitting in a bar with a couple and he was explaining to her who James Bond was. She was young and did not claim to know much about the character. The guy at one point said, he fucks girls that don't like until they do like it. As a side note the girl said, "oooh, that sounds like fun"

[–]OneInAZillion 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This version is my favourite for the simple fact that at the beginning, Barbara Walters says "I know Sean Connery regrets this conversation".

No, no he doesn't.

[–]Rathadin 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Here's an interview with his wife... listen to the way she talks about him. He's alpha fucks to the maximum...

Sir Sean Connery made ''crazy'' love to his wife 24 hours after they first met.

The 82-year-old actor embarked on a passionate affair with French artist Micheline Roquebrune - who he later wed in 1975 - while he was still married to Australian actress Diane Cilento, and Micheline will never forget their first time between the sheets.

Describing their first romantic tryst in March 1972 in France's Gala magazine, Micheline wrote: ''The key is in the door. He's reading a newspaper, lying down, naked. In one step, I jump on the bed, undo my leather belt and pretend to whip him with it while dancing.

''He grabs hold of me and kisses me passionately. Almost brutally. Animalistically. His skin releases a scent, not of hot sand, but more like Silex, a warm and intoxicating smell like stones rubbing against each other. I'm transported.

''The four days that follow, we continue to play golf like strangers then we meet to make love like crazy people. The reality is even better than the fantasy. No man has ever had this effect on me.''

Micheline went on to recount how it was love at first sight when the pair first met at the Mohammedia golf club in Morocco.

She said: ''For the whole world, he's a huge star, but for me, he is, above all, the man of my dreams.''

Once back home the pair returned to their respective partners and Micheline didn't hear from Sean until two years later, when she received a message inviting her to join him in Marbella, Spain.

She explained: ''[I think to myself] 'Who does he think he is?' ... [But once there] he locks his eyes on mine and says, 'I've missed you ... I can't stop thinking about you and I can't forget you.' ''

[–]mugatucrazypills 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you make love to me like that, you can slap me around now and then

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

By their nature women aren’t decisive–“Shall I wear this? Shall I wear that?”–and along comes a man who is absolutely sure of everything and he’s a godsend.

This continually blows my mind. GF is at her wit's end trying to decide what to wear, until I pick an option for her (usually at random, whatever). You can SEE the relief on her face at not having to be burdened by the awful decision making process. It's fucking weird, but hey whatever works.

[–]Killigraphy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not only does he hold frame in his telling of every day life in the Connery household, he holds frame with Barbara Walters in the interview. Could he be anymore Bond?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Her: Youre gonna get alot of mail for saying that.

Him: I might get some fe-mail.

[–]Mitchell78 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Legend. Best Bond ever, sad with the direction they are going now.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed. I actually stopped watching them. Don't want to ruin the Bond series experience I've had since I was young.

[–]Redasshole -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Really, it gives us informations about how women want a man nowadays. No more classy, witty, clever british gentleman but a rough bad boy who has no manners. Really sad that the definition of a man nowadays is a shallow asshole who got AAaAaaAabs. Should we give up our actual value in order to get some SMV?

(the feminine narrative gives a definition of a man and most people being BP, they follow it)

[–]Redasshole -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Really, it gives us informations about how women want a man nowadays. No more classy, witty, clever british gentleman but a rough bad boy who has no manners. Really sad that the definition of a man nowadays is a shallow asshole who got AAaAaaAabs. Should we give up our actual value in order to get some SMV?

(the feminine narrative gives a definition of a man and most people being BP, they follow it)

[–]DeeBased 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Worth noting that two years after that interview Sean was voted the sexiest man alive at age 59.

[–]3rdLion 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I thought I'd leave behind my favourite Connery scene.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I read this in Sean's voice in my head. So much better.

Eshpeshally all the sh shoundsh.

[–]LetsGoAllTheWhey 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He has his own shubreddit, you know. It'sh actshully shpelled shubreddit. As in r/shubreddit/

[–]1Sir_Distic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hello little girl. Come and shit on my lap.

[–]abdada 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Watch his Barbara Walters interview. So much lulz

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (20 children)

That's one of the best summaries of TRP I've ever seen. And if he delivered that answer off the cuff like that... amazing.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I keep getting angry with Walters' attitude. She keeps chiding him and talking to Sean like he's a schoolboy. I can't stand that look in a woman's eyes.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sean Connery is a real man.

[–]NPK5667 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean most women would say its OK to hit a man, and equality is what they clamor for soooo.....

[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP, please include the interview linked in the comments to give it context.

[–]textualintercourse 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I would argue to only hit in self defense. If it is to the point you want to hit, it's past the point of saving.. hell, it was not worth being in that relationship with that person in the first place.

Abundance mentality means there is always someone better. If you hit, it's a desperate act to keep someone, it's the ultimate last act out of the fear of loss. The woman should be the one who is in fear of losing you.

[–]wanderer779 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is a difference between that and what Connery is talking about. Connery is talking about slapping someone to show them where the line is. The guys I've seen who hit their wives, they let the wife walk all over them, cuckold them, insult them etc., until they blew their top and beat her to a pulp.

[–]BallisticTherapy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Abundance mentality means there is always someone better.

I thought we called that hypergamy.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

all women will get out of line.

This is how you keep a woman, a good woman, in line on rare occasion instead of constantly replacing them.

[–]PanzerBatallion 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Seriously?

Sean Connery didnt swallow a red pill in 1965. THATS HOW THE WORLD WAS IN 1965.

Men ceded ground to women and stopped being men. You all want to shake his hand, and he's looking at you all as the generation that doesn't "get it."

Some of us grew up in "red pill" households. We didn't call it that, because that's what life was. But it still happened. Somewhere along the way, some of your fathers sold out on that idea, and that's unfortunate, but it doesn't have anything to do with anyone "figuring anything out" in 1965. They had it figured out. It was just never passed down to you guys.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Holy fuck! I didn't realize he was such a badass. I remember as a kid always wondering why girls were crazy for this guy even when he was old. I never understood it. He was RP, that makes sense.

[–]nishal1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like everything in life makes more sense when looked at with an RP lens. It's an inconvenient truth but it's a truth nonetheless.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is beautiful. He's clear-minded and respectful, and she's really trying to take it out of context, and he just won't let her.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Walters: Wait 'til people see this interview. You're going to get mail. Connery: I might get some female

HAHAHAHA! Wow.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing I've learned recently is.. always walk away, boys.

Lethal and physical force should only be used when your life is threatened or in the interest of someone else's welfare.

Socially and legally, you will face consequences and they will be on the grounds that you used force out of your own PERSONAL SELF INTEREST, and not the aforementioned.

Just walk away.

[–]FreelanceTradeCraft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you imagine if that interview was today, and it was some woman like Rachel Maddow or Jimmy Fallon or Meredith Vierra and they had James Spader or Mel Gibson saying they think a good slap is ok when justified and maybe some LGBT cause of the week is stupid.... it would break twitter and reddit and probably the whole internet.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (17 children)

The only time you should hit anyone is in self defense. Somebody being a "bitch" or "hysterical" is not a good enough reason to hit them. Or you can go around hitting people for being bitches and see how far that gets you. The jury will love that explanation. As will your cellmates when you're doing 60 days for battery.

Hitting people for being "bitches" or "hysterical" is a great example of sinking to their level. The ultimate loss of frame.

This is the kind of post that people love to grab onto when they say "oh look at this awful misogynistic sub".

That being said: wasn't there a mod post a few months back that said any posts advocating the hitting of women would be deleted?

Edit: found it https://archive.is/x2CMA

[–]TruthNotFeelings 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Did you read anything beyond the first couple of sentences? If not, re-read. This isn't a post about slapping women.

[–]Killigraphy -1 points0 points  (12 children)

Sean describing it, sounds like he's retaining his frame, as in a "ok, now let me continue reading my paper" fashion. Sinking down to someones level would be continuing to discuss or argue their twisted world view, till you're both angry. He shuts it down, not only breaking their frame but drawing a line wherein you're not crossing again. Pimps do this all the time...not saying Connery is a pimp...but he knows bitches.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is the most concise summation of TRP I have seen on this sub yet. Bravo.

[–]tuxidomasx -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Real talk, one of my plates needs an open handed slap. She mentioned early on that she likes to be "put in her place", even if she's "pushed or slapped." Not necessarily sexually, but when she's "acting out." (her words not mine)

Nothing she does could affect me enough to actually WANT to slap her during an argument. We dont even really argue because I'm way too chill for it. But I feel like it'll give her so many tingles. Her shit tests get more and more dumb and frequent, and whenever i defuse a situation with humor or disinterest or sex, i feel like its not always the way she'd prefer it to be handled.

Maybe getting slapped is her thing, iono. But next time I think I'm gonna try the Connery, with an open handed smack real fast. Not full power or nothing, just to stun her like a teenager, and see if it turns out good.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (1 child)

if it's not sex it will probably get you jail for a domestic assault

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. They want you to react

[–]newls -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I disagree with many of his political views, but damn do I respect any red pill man.

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[–]Killigraphy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Equality my friend, you're being sexist if you think one shouldn't hit women due to any other notion besides it being assault.

[–]NotRAClST2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

pple also racist as heck back then too

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