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Red Pill TheoryWhere have all the good men gone? Women at Vice put their heads together to answer this puzzling mystery. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by An_All-Beef_Engineer

TL;DR Vice reporter realises the devastating impact the decreasing number educated/quality men will have on women's happiness. We discover that low value (smv) men are invisible to women, before heading back to the gym for more gains.

 

Main Body


Women don't date down. This is a groundbreaking development - also scientists discover the sun actually rises in the East... more in our news at 7.
 

Let's stop feigning surprise. A Vice reporter is horrified that beautiful, intelligent, driven woman who—like Katherine Heigl in every rom-com—can't find a decent date. This is horrible! Hang on to your seats, because it gets worse:

Every guy she goes out with is an asshole; she consistently dates "below" her league, and she's on the verge of giving up on a committed relationship altogether.

Fortunately she finds someone with the balls to crunch actual numbers, only to find a sobering conclusion:

There simply aren't enough college-educated men to go around. For every four college-educated women in my generation, there are three college-educated men. The result? What Birger (redacted) calls a "musical chairs" of the heart: As the men pair off with partners, unpartnered straight women are left with fewer and fewer options—and millions of them are eventually left with no options at all.

Let's breakdown some of this research:

The Department of Education projects that by the class of 2023, there will be 47 percent more women than men [graduating from college]. That's three women for every two men, essentially. Obviously, none of this would matter if we were all a little more open-minded about who we are willing to date and marry.

Did you see that? Even though more women are finishing college, We should still be more open minded guys! It's still our fault! We should apologise if we don't finish college because who would these women marry? Michael?

 

The reporter is self-aware enough to hit the nail on the head, yet overshoots later in the article:

"Being unwilling to consider working-class guys affects women in ways that it doesn't affect men. It's totally unfair, and I get that."

Her insight continues in the form of a Hyper.Actuating.Mental.Sytem.Transiently.rationalizing.Everything.Readily or what trp simply refers to as a Hamster:

It feels that the smarter you are as a woman, the smaller your dating pool is, because women seem less likely to date men less intelligent than themselves.

Oddly the Hamster produces accurate results. There must be a blue moon outside your window or something.

 

The statistician then conveniently strays into white knight territory, resting the blame for women's unhappiness on men's shoulders as per usual

It's not just women, both men and women are unlikely to date and marry across those lines. It just doesn't matter for the men because the pool of educated women is so vast that their own classism doesn't really punish them. But being unwilling to consider working-class guys affects women in ways that it doesn't affect men. It's totally unfair, and I get that, but it's not like only the women are choosy and the men are all open-minded.

 

The Solution


Far and away, the best dating market in the country for women is Silicon Valley, San Jose, San Francisco. Even with the gay population

Odd how men describe that place as a sausage fest while women discover although the men there are rich, successful, good-looking, tall men who throw money around but lack style or interest in their dates cause they are totes obsessed with their gadgets, omg Becky.

Even the statistician gives her a coded warning about betas

I'm making a quantitative argument not a qualitative argument. I don't know if these [tech] guys are good guys or whether—I don't know if they can carry on a conversation or not.

They can't.

I'm just telling you by the numbers I think they're less likely to act like dickheads because they don't have the same kind of leverage.

 

The Explanation


The hamster goes on a rampage:

And my argument is that the old discrimination [against women] obscured a fundamental biological truth: Girls' brains mature at a faster rate than boys' brains, girls mature [faster] socially and intellectually. They're about a year ahead of boys. When it comes to actual schoolwork, girls do their homework better, girls are more organized, they're less likely to be diagnosed with ADHD, they don't get put in jail [at the same rates]. So I think girls have a developmental advantage when it comes to college preparation.

Let's have a moment of silence for the man who mistakenly reverses the genders in that phrase then reads it out loud. For the rest of you, this should read - After centuries/millenia girls mature faster mentally, giving them a developmental advantage when it comes to family court and divorce proceedings. FTFY. There is no point arguing here, because like all women, she HATES shirtless pics.

 

Summary


The indoctrination continues, yet the market is correcting itself. The man who has Game, Lifts and improves is already shooting fish in a barrel. Be that man. Not one commenting on the Vice article that spawned this post.

BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM TO FIX.

 

Edit


Couldn't spell hamster properly. Clearly OP has never been to college.


[–]tomysotomayorfuxboys 434 points435 points  (73 children)

I'm going to be honest here: I don't really care about those women. I've figured out how to get what I want when it comes to women. I can get it my way like Burger King.

The women who complain that they're sooooooo smart, successful, but can't find a man, just aren't on the top of my list of highly desirable women. I don't really want them, I don't need them, and their sense of entitlement and demands mean they're not worth my time.

[–]103342 229 points230 points  (24 children)

These women are the most miserable people on the planet.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 108 points109 points  (18 children)

Probably the reason selling depression meds is doing so well.

[–]Captain_Unremarkable 92 points93 points  (12 children)

And yet, despite more females being diagnosed with supposed mental illness across the board, men are far more likely to successfully commit suicide. Women are more likely to attempt, but more men actually kill themselves. It's almost like women want victimization and need the attention...?

[–]Squeezymypenisy 21 points22 points  (6 children)

I agree and who is left to give them the attention when they are in their thirties?

[–]1PrinceofSpades 39 points40 points  (3 children)

be me, at girls house after sex

start post sex conversation while getting dressed

I bring up seeing her again

she says any of the following, guaranteed:"I'm still damaged/broken" "ex-boyfriend" "victim"

I immediately turn around and walk out never looking or going back, once in my underwear forever abandoning my clothes.

Just don't let them play victim. If we all pitch in, eventually they might actually grow the fuck up :)

[–]reddymcwoody 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Inb4 using your clothes as proof of RAPPPPPEEE.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 5 points6 points  (0 children)

... You know... Considering this was in a state halfway across the country while I was traveling... It's actually possible... Fuck me.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No, we all don't have to pitch in. A natural correction will occur. Successful men tend to be rather apathetic to feminism and the bitching of SJW. A few betas here and there keep up the illusion for women, but most sugar daddies I know are quite happy dealing with their sugar babies.

[–]scithion 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I wonder whether the more effective let-go-of-your-trauma therapies for ptsd could be adapted to help people let go of their stupid dreams and beliefs.

[–]fromdario 32 points33 points  (3 children)

Can confirm. I rented out a property I own to one of these types and lamented my interactions with her. These women won't get a quality man because a quality man has no interest in them.

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    [–]fromdario 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    haha, she was always angry/complaining about something or bragging about some work accomplishment. She would also attempt to flirt with the subtlety of a rhino. I kept things professional and interacted with her the least I could; money over bitches.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I rent out my condos to only gay men. I post ads on gay friendly websites and require a minimum credit score of 675. Single women and single mothers are the worst tenants in Florida in my experience.

    I'm a lawyer and do lots of landlord-tenant law. When I'm representing tenants, it's usually a man that got screwed over by his landlord. When I'm representing landlords, it's typically women who are the tenants and their bullshit is ridiculous, especially at rent determination hearings. Get a good lease that lets you cancel it ininstances of breach that convert the lease to a tenancy at will where the tenant is only allowed to live there from month to month and send them the termination of the tenancy ASAP.

    In other words, get a good lawyer to draft your lease.

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      [–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (10 children)

      To me the weirdest part about that attitude is careers and relationships don't necessarily have to interfere with each other. Like, you can commit to someone and have a career, men did that for centuries, it's not hard. It's just an excuse to play the field, I guess.

      [–]1whatsazipper 28 points29 points  (5 children)

      Part of their career may involve hopping on various cocks to make connections and move up in the career. Let's face it, the pussy is a tool, useful even in the domain of the career.

      [–]TheYambag 11 points12 points  (3 children)

      I had an aunt who was doing amazing while she was alive. My cousin and I were pretty close, but we used to always hang out at his place because she had such nice stuff, lived in a huge house and had a pool and kick ass basement for us to play in. In a span of about 10 years my aunt went through 3 husbands, and eventually she hung herself. I was about 16 when that happened.

      I grew up pretty sheltered, and very very naive. Until my early 20's I was the type of guy who if you said "women use their pussies to get ahead at work", I would have scoffed and tried to tell you that you were watching too much Hollywood. I couldn't believe that any "upstanding woman" would have sex to better her career, and this is all after the Monica Lewinski scandal. I guess in a way I was convinced that, while it of course happened, it was like some obscure fluke, and that it was so rare that it wouldn't realistically effect anyone in my life.

      Well, so we're having a family conversation at my parents one night, and someone brings up the fact that there was a fight between my aunts first and second husbands. Turns out my Aunts first husband found out that she was sleeping with her boss. It destroyed her first marriage and she eventually ended up marrying her boss. The second guy got fired for embezzlement, and shortly after that they got divorced. She then started dating a man who would become her third husband, who was one of the directors (one level below executive) for her company.

      This caused a lot of drama, because I don't think it was really allowed. Eventually that guy went to work for a different bank. And from there it wasn't too much longer until she killed herself. It's just so strange to me. Someone in my own family was basically willing to sling dick to get into the right crowd to move up the career ladder. You never expect it to be you I guess.

      [–]1whatsazipper 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      If you know about it, they're doing it wrong.

      [–]1Kolbath 95 points96 points  (4 children)

      Those women are broken. They were so focused on not needing men that when they discovered it was untrue, they were staring at an oncoming wall.

      [–]MelodyMyst 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      So much for their one year headstart on emotional maturity.

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Or usually they are well past the wall.

      [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 34 points35 points  (1 child)

      Odd how the longer this list of demands the less value that is offered for it. Share your experience man.

      [–]1PrinceofSpades 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Classic difference between American dating profile and Eastern European or Asian dating profile. Shame that our bullshit is quickly spreading over to those cultures as well.

      [–]CuntyMcFagNuts69 6 points7 points  (13 children)

      Sadly the world tells boys to go after that sweet tasty Bass and reel her in. What at catch she is

      [–]alexistheman 16 points17 points  (12 children)

      Sadly the world tells boys to go after that sweet tasty Bass and reel her in. What at catch she is

      Same reason that I don't really get MILF porn. Like, why the fuck would I want to watch a 40 year old fuck when I can get an 18 year old? Honestly, a lot of them are fucking nasty.

      [–]reddymcwoody 15 points16 points  (2 children)

      I saw a statistic somewhere that teen guys are the biggest consumers of milf porn. Something about an oedipus complex.

      [–]SPICY_BUTT_MILK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      When I was 18, I got a lot of attention from age 35+ women. If this is common, I could see there being some curiosity about what the older chicks are actually like.

      [–]Luckyluke23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      if only they would date down. instead of being a hb4 and telling me they want a hd8 (hot dude) then maybe they might find someone they link logn enough to you know be happy?

      [–]ghostofpennwast 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      This is 100 percent analagous to women who say they "hate drama" yet they eminate it.

      These women are the problem, not that men have suddenly absconded.

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        [–][deleted] 132 points133 points  (14 children)

        Guys are attracted to a woman's body and personality, not a piece of paper she shelled out 100k for.

        [–]RedoranBoneMould 125 points126 points  (3 children)

        "I can't have sex with your personality/ and I can't put my penis in your college degree."

        Wise words from the song "Show Me Your Genitals."

        [–]fingerthemoon 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        The brilliancy of that video is that it's meant to be satire making fun of sexist men, yet at the same time it's totally true and reflects how most men probably feel towards women. Plausible deniability: "Yeah, I don't really think that, I was making fun of sexism."

        I don't now how the creator truly feels but it wouldn't be funny if there wasn't truth in it. All good humor must have some truth.

        [–]scholarly_pimp 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        Music video for all those that are curious!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM

        [–]MyReddit4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Don't forget about the fist in your childhood dreams...

        [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 23 points24 points  (6 children)

        "That Law Degree looks so sexy on you, baby!"

        Said no man ever....

        [–]bigcitytruth[🍰] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        a piece of paper she shelled out 100k for.

        You mean a piece of paper her parents shelled out 100k for.

        [–]whisky1111 58 points59 points  (4 children)

        "The indoctrination continues, yet the market is correcting itself. The man who has Game, Lifts and improves is already shooting fish in a barrel. Be that man."

        What is my prize? A well used hole attached to a nag machine?

        [–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

        You're just intimidated by an independent woman, shitlord.

        [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

        What is my prize? A well used hole attached to a nag machine?

        Goodness no. Unless you so chose.

        [–]Ojisan1 53 points54 points  (2 children)

        Oh, and OP, you didn't quote this gem, but it made me laugh out loud.

        It certainly seemed like they were well on their way to getting married. She was in her late 30s, he was in his mid 40s. She really wants to have kids, get married, the whole [thing]. And she's amazing in every way." One day at lunch, Birger casually asked her about her boyfriend. "Her whole expression changed," Birger recalled. They had just broken up. "They'd been dating for over two years and he said he 'just wasn't ready to settle down.'"

        Haha, that guy. He knows what he's worth. I never met him, but I like him already.

        [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

        That's actually just the primer. It's supposed to generate sympathy and set the general tone for reception of the article.

        And she's amazing in every way.

        You see it in the undefined statement assuming value. Amazing at what? Netflix? Doesn't matter At the tender age of late 30, after ages (read two years) with this guy - where is this going?

         

        He knows what he's worth.

        Or he could be aware of the impact of a mother's age on down syndrome statistics. She should be thanking him for telling her the truth - 'just wasn't ready to settle down.'

        [–]fingerthemoon 85 points86 points  (3 children)

        Do you think that the attitude of men in their 30s and 40s who don't feel the need to settle down can be chalked up purely to the way the deck is stacked in their favor?... ...So my belief, my hope, is that once you shine a light on this stuff the behavior will change. I kind of believe that once everybody knows that guys are acting like pigs or that women are better off expanding their dating pool, the behavior will change.

        So men who are in their 30s and 40s who don't want to settle down are pigs but women the same age who don't want to get married are strong and independent.

        More and more women are deciding to live independent lives and not get married; could that trend actually be the result of there just not being enough men? It's very important to understand that I am not endorsing marriage. I am not endorsing monogamy. I think people can lead fulfilled lives without getting married.

        It's just amazing how the double standard just slips by them, especially since they are all for "equality" (bullshit. they want special privileges for women).

        [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

        I think people can lead fulfilled lives without getting married..

         

        guys are acting like pigs.

        women are deciding to live independent lives and not get married

        Equality? That's where the end of the magical equality road to Sugar Candy Mountain Land ends.

        [–]tQuery 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        ...the result of there just not being enough men?

        Translation: Not enough men interested in me. Of course it's our responsibility to "rise" to your level. Or maybe the problem is you.

        [–][deleted] 189 points190 points  (90 children)

        Excellent write up.

        The maturity thing is such a joke. Women take no accountability for themselves and thus aren't mature. They don't take leadership positions, they don't take risk, they don't do shit. They spend their lives looking cute so men will do shit for them. You know why women do better in school?

        Well first, in group biases and female teachers. Second, they've got the narrative telling them how wonderful they are whole the boys are called rapists and meant to feel unwelcome. Third, women are obediant as fuck and whenan authority tells them to so something, even something humiliating then they happily do it. Fourth, the social opportunities from having a vagina are just good for morale. Fifth, feminists in the 90s with their shortchanged girl movement feminized the system making it unappealing to boys. Sixth, punishments and wara on recess adversely affect boys. Seventh, this shit from elementary school follows them to high school in terms of reputation and shit. And eighth, boys aren't rewarded for success because all it means is male privilege.

        This maturity thing is total bullshit. The hamster spins well passed the wall so I don't think we can consider 40year old women to be even remotely mature. People look at a 12 year old girl and just go: "Well, that's as mature as Shea gonna get so she must be mature. It's just female supremacist bullshit where the defects inherent in qualitative statements are tricked out. Speaking of shit like that, can anyone tell me why females are considered emotionally healthy for crying when men are considered unhealthy for not bitching about their problems?

        [–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (14 children)

        Also on the maturity thing, animals that take longer to mature usually mature more overall.

        Sure girls mature faster, but they also stop maturing sooner, while guys still have a few more years to become more mature.

        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        13-year-olds and college students are just as retarded as each other. The difference is that the college students have jumped on to to cock carousel after their hormones kicked in.

        [–]1oldredder 5 points6 points  (9 children)

        I don't think they mature faster either.

        Do women learn faster than men to be polite? No. To be considerate? No. To be self-aware? No. To be more efficient? No. To have & show respect to others? No. What do women do faster than men? Not even puberty - but it's a lot more obvious once the female hits puberty.

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          [–]kellykebab 15 points16 points  (1 child)

          To summarize your point, women realize the world wants something from them sooner than men do.

          [–]adamryanx 85 points86 points  (26 children)

          Wanna know how easy it is to debunk this claim that women are more intelligent (at least with respect to academic achievement)? Have a woman who did well in school attempt the same kind of math problems she did in high school. Try this on college women, too. None are immune.

          I've lost track of how many times I've heard women cite their grades in high school to prove they're smarter than men, only to then watch them "forget" how to solve a simple geometry problem. And by simple I mean simple. We're talking calculating-the-area-of-a-circle simple.

          Women are very good at memorizing something when they see a benefit it may bring them in the immediate future (see: shit from the past she brings up in arguments). In high school women see the benefit of memorizing how to get the right answer, and so their grades reflect that. But knowledge will not be mocked. The mental ability that real academic learning demands is uncommon among women.

          That graduation photo of hers amounts to little more than a Turing machine with a vagina.

          [–]1PrinceofSpades 42 points43 points  (9 children)

          Had an ex of mine tell me bluntly at dinner she truly believed she was more intelligent than I was because she got a near 4.0 in highschool. She was 18 going on 19 and I was 21 in my junior year at an above average university, where at the very least most of my professors went to school at Ivy leagues. We're talking a California basic girl here, too. The Instagram type.

          I literally spent the next 20 minutes, at dinner, making sure she never again had that thought about herself by, for the one and only time in the history of our relationship, speaking to her the same way I would my college peers instead of like a younger and dumber girlfriend. I lost track of the number of times I had to correct her in that short span of time, or how many problems she failed to solve.

          Best part is, to verify the point about the system being fucked, when I look back in hindsight it really all does make sense. I got very average grades in highschool. I tested in the top percentile, but literally refused to do my homework because it was a waste of my time. I had male teachers restructure my grade %s which let me get As, and female teachers tell me that wasn't how things worked and I got Fs to Bs depending on how much homework and group projects mattered.

          This left me dead center in the class rankings. Until my senior year. I realized I should go to college, so did my homework busywork for just one single semester and got a 4.8 (would have been 5 had I taken the right classes), but regardless I was rank 1 in the class for GPA that semester. There was a girl who was rank 1 every time who was now number two for a semester; forever a black mark on her perfect record. I remember her crying to our calculus teacher for an entire lunch period which spilled into the class at 5th period over it. Greatest part was no one suspected me because I was a slacker through and through. She never did learn it was me.

          Long story short, if school was tailored to boys, and gave men tangible rewards for doing homework instead of grades, like you only get recess if you do your homework, but your GPA is only based on how well you test, almost no woman would be a valedictorian again, and this dillusion in their minds that temporarily memorizing facts and formulas for a few days somehow makes you intelligent would be quickly eradicated.

          Ah, a man can dream.

          [–]Modredpillschool 9 points10 points  (5 children)

          I tested in the top percentile, but literally refused to do my homework because it was a waste of my time.

          Exactly my experience. I know the material, it wasn't that difficult. I'm not going to waste my time doing problems over and over.

          Always got bad grades, aced tests, and squeaked by with a C average. Fascinating how highschool teachers never considered that a kid who could get 100's on his test should have such a miserable grade.

          [–]1PrinceofSpades 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Yes, and having recently entered the workforce I now understand why this is. I thought offices were full of intelligent individuals, and boy oh boy was I wrong. The grand majority of jobs it appears are no fucking different then doing homework for 8 hours at a god damn time, so it's no wonder highschools and now colleges are placing more emphasis on keeping you busy and a whole lot less on your intelligence, because actually being intelligent is horrible for the system, and let's you do things like start up a company or manipulate the common person. On the other hand, memorizing and then repeating said task over and over is perfect for the workplace. No wonder female careers are taking off, yet they aren't claiming those top CEO spots very often for the same reasons. Despite feeling entitled, the grand majority aren't actually intelligent.

          [–]systemshock869 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Fascinating how highschool teachers never considered that a kid who could get 100's on his test should have such a miserable grade.

          And what does that do to kids' motivation in school when they realize that the adult tasked with teaching them the material is too dense to recognize intellect?

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

          What does your Turing machine comment mean?

          [–]adamryanx 11 points12 points  (1 child)

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_machine

          Turing machines have been a hot topic in philosophy of mind/artificial intelligence studies for decades now. I've shared the wiki link above. If you'd like to learn more, I highly recommend the philosophy of mind lectures by John Searle and Patrick Grim, produced by The Teaching Company.

          For those who just want a brief TL;DR: a Turing machine manipulates symbols and produces output which gives the appearance of understanding and consciousness.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Awesome, gonna buy that series on audible. Thanks

          [–]Procrastanaseum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          It means she's a robot with a vagina.

          [–]franklyforthright 2 points3 points  (6 children)

          Yes they are better at memorization

          [–]sodainthewatercup6 15 points16 points  (2 children)

          Now, now.. We had a contest in 7th grade to see who could memorize the most digits of pi.

          I won the contest amongst a class of 30. I memorized about 200 digits of pi. Second place, male, memorized around 80 digits. Third, male again, memorized about 50.

          I'll just assume you meant a "different" type of memory, as this wasn't really an exception to a rule.

          [–]Modredpillschool 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          It's not that women couldn't, it's that there is zero incentive for them to have done so.

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            [–]scarletspider3 27 points28 points  (10 children)

            As a current grad student I think you missed the main reason. Women have an easier time in school because they don't have all the pressure on them to a constant provider. They can get by on some part time job while they get through school and everybody gives her high fives and free dinners and gifts (AKA dating). While the men don't have anybody cutting them any slack for working on a degree and only providing part time.

            [–]desylid 18 points19 points  (5 children)

            In addition to having privilege given to them by instructors, upperclassmen, and peers when it comes to academic work, women don't have to put any effort into getting laid or relationships with men.

            A woman has to simply ignore the barrage of incoming messages if she needs to study. She doesn't worry about coming up with witty or intelligent remarks. She just says 'k' and goes through the motions. If she wants to get laid then she just agrees to it. If she feels like being a bitch she just says she has to study (if she even answers at all).

            Studying is easier for women because most of the time they do not concern themselves with supplementary information. Read and memorize the slides. If they need help there are plenty of people everywhere willing to teach them.

            It's okay to wear scrubs to class and not wear make-up.

            Men have needs that conflict with their studying time. The need for sex and masturbation. The need to play a sport or an instrument. Reading about politics or playing video games. Most women have no hobbies. With few exceptions their hobby is their school work.

            So why do women find school so stressful? Because they waste so much time playing politics with other women. They screw themselves over by staying in constant contact with their 'friends.' Studying for 4 hours is actually studying for 2 hours and gossiping on the phone for another 2. They wear each other out. They cause each other stress when none should exist.

            [–]scarletspider3 9 points10 points  (1 child)

            Yea that is also a big advantage. Trying to get laid is a huge distraction for a guy in school.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            They cause each other stress when none should exist.

            This. They just have to keep bitching and whining about everything under the sun. I would rather be alone than be with some stupid, querulous time ho who adds nothing constructive to my life.

            [–]desylid 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            What's confusing is that a lot of women are capable of being very interesting and intelligent in spurts. Once you are fooled they revert back to their natural flaky, lying, bitchy selves. It's like thinking you have trained a friendly hippo until one day it turns on you in the river and kills you.

            [–]TheYambag 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            Women have an easier time in school because they don't have all the pressure on them to a constant provider.

            I'm the only male of 4 children. It's hard not to feel jealous of what they've received, that wasn't really offered to me (cars, rent, vacations, credit card bills paid off). Much of these "gifts" to my sisters were done in secret (the cars were pretty much the only public gifts that they got, while I had to pay for mine), but in the years since college, and with enough family parties with enough alcohol I'm starting to find out that my sisters really got the equivalent of thousands of extra funding from my parents. The excuse is just that "But TheYambag, you were always doing so well, you didn't need any handouts"... yeah, because I was the only kid who fucking worked through college. I still managed to graduate with less debt, and secure a better job than any of my sisters. It's not like it really matters, but I can not believe how badly my sisters squandered their "easy mode" upbringing.

            [–]GuitarHero07 51 points52 points  (22 children)

            The funny thing is that many of these "intelligent" people's degrees are worthless. Student loans will be the next big bubble. You can take that to the bank.

            [–][deleted] 74 points75 points  (14 children)

            Women are nesters, not builders. Everything they study reflects that too. They're not engineers who worry about building shit, they're not economists who move shit around optimally, they're not physicists who discover shit. They're sociologists who say "Well wouldn't it be nice if... " and then they do that thing.

            Ordinarily that wouldn't be too bad of a thing. Men would produce awesome shit in surplus and give a lot but maybe not a fuck ton to women since you really can't prioritize them if you're gonna live like a good man. Women want some more, which I can understand since they didn't choose to be incapable and if I wouldn't expect a wife to produce then I can't expect it from women generally. Life goes on and everyone's happy.

            But then people stop producing. Men still want to which is why even uneducated men go into legitimate careers building shit and making shit happen but they can't because every five minutes a new barrier is put in their way. You can't run a society on nothing either so we have less and less each year and it's distributed towards women who don't use it to build and then the rate at which we lose shit builds. After a while, men are disempowered to produce and women have to take accountability.

            Well just because they have to doesn't mean they will which is why they continue to bitch about student loans instead of getting work that actively produces so we have more wealth as a society to handle loans with. We don't get a whole lot of products, wealth, money or goodness, but we do get a fuck ton of women asking: "Where are the men who were supposed to build my shit for me?"

            Yeah, the question's coming out in terms of "Where have the good men gone" specifically for relationships but that's immaterial here. Women like relationships so that they have a man to build and produce for them. Yeah they like getting fucked by an alpha, but mostly to lock him down and get the best builder. Really, they're just whores trying to buy production with sex so that they can nest it around without building anything. In another world, I'd like nesting but now it's just an obnoxious barrier to things being built.

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              [–]JimRim 18 points19 points  (3 children)

              Very true. The value of that awesome act of creation has declined a great deal in modern society. It's a real shame.

              [–]Gimleyx 6 points7 points  (2 children)

              My mother told me the other day she became very depressed after I was born because she no longer had the life she had before aka party girl life style. My response was along the lines "wouldn't you expect it to take up a lot of time to raise a child." She rationalized by saying I could not understand as I have not had kids and wouldn't hear anymore of it. In a sense, she was trying to make me feel guilty for being born when it was my parents decision to have me.

              [–]JimRim 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              This is a superb explanation. You could not have said it any better.

              [–]1oldredder 8 points9 points  (6 children)

              We're already in that bubble.

              Stupid retard downvoters: go read zerohedge. We've been on this topic since 2009.

              [–]ioncehadsexinapool 1 point2 points  (5 children)

              Tbh I hope shit hits the fan hard regarding the student loan bubble because the harder it hits the more regulations will come into play to make sure that shit never happens again. The fuck are you going to do with a gender studies degree?

              [–]Modredpillschool 2 points3 points  (4 children)

              The problem is- smart guys like myself who don't have student loans will watch the value of our dollar go down while the idiot students get bailed out.

              [–]ioncehadsexinapool 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Well, I guess it's time to evaluate which side wins and take the winning side

              [–]Modredpillschool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Time to take out student loans! Gotcha!

              [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

              I've followed your posts for a while. Good work dissecting the reasons - oddly, I'm not inclined to do that as questioning the narrative, even unintentionally is messy . I'm doing what you taught us - ignoring the bullshit while taking advantage of the built in defects.

               

              can anyone tell me why females are considered emotionally mature for crying when men are considered immature for not bitching about their problems?

              That's an easy one - females are allowed to cry since it gives them the attention, which usually results in the problem getting fixed. Here's the trick. Nobody wants any and every man to bitch about their problems. Every woman dreams about having a top tier alpha show their sensitive side. This is part of their roadmap to commitment. On the other hand, no woman wants to hear this guy bitch about his problems.. This is probably the clearest visual you'll get.

              That's about to change. Cue this documentary the next generation of men to cry for everything, but they will never know why nobody will truly care.

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Lol, from the way the beginning was phrased I thought it was gonna end in "But fuck you!" Glad to know you like my work, I am a fan of this piece. I bet it'll be a big hit by the time I wake up tomorrow. Keep up the good work.

              [–]aazav 27 points28 points  (3 children)

              Women in the Bay Area are bitter because they realize that they reach their expiration date way too quickly and time in quickly running out but they haven't nabbed their dot com billionaire yet.

              [–]Scarbane 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              Sounds like a pretty miserable dating pool.

              [–]aazav 7 points8 points  (1 child)

              Ahhh, it's odd. I knew a few guys who dated strippers that were hot and realized the game. There's the whole Oriental fever thing (I'm not going to use "Asian"), it is an odd dating pool, that's for sure. Gotta go down to SLO to get the good selection, but even then, it's all about pussy privilege and too much L.A. attitude.

              Anyway, one chick (7+) I dated there actually lived in an apartment where her bedroom was a CLOSET. Her living/dining room was what the bedroom used to be and still, she paid 3 grand a month for it "for the views".

              Everything's too expensive there and it has an odd affect on people.

              But also, she was female, so there's that.

              [–]1commentatorX 51 points52 points  (11 children)

              Good summary - but Vice fell into the hands of hamster-powered hipsters a few years back, now about 70% of their 'journalism' is complete tosh.

              [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (3 children)

              I liked it when Vice was just articles about some guy getting super high on exotic drugs, shooting high powered guns and fucking third world ladyboy prostitutes.

              [–]1commentatorX 19 points20 points  (1 child)

              I'd watch a YT channel devoted to just following Shane Smith around on his epic drinking adventures.

              [–]RPGrappler 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Pretty much describes every Vice documentary with him involved.

              [–]RPGrappler 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Gotta listen to The Gavin McInnes Show (Vice Co-Founder) on Anthony Cumia's network to hear about that sort of stuff now. A very pro-RP podcast network and well worth the monthly cost.

              [–]JimRim 13 points14 points  (0 children)

              They lost their Alpha when Gavin McKinnes left.

              [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

              Pretty much within the last 1 year+ anything other than their Ukraine coverage has been garbage. Even that has a pretty clear pro-Ukraine bend but more or less they try to be even handed.

              I give full credit to Simon Ostrovsky on that as he seems to be both a ballsy and thorough journalist in the true sense of the word and it's pretty easy to understand how you may develop some bias when the other side arrests you.

              Their Syria coverage has so much potential but the British guy they have running it doesn't even speak Arabic and seems more like a confused bystander than a reporter.

              Their coverage of things like the "immigrant crisis" and odd reporting of "far right" groups that consist of like 8 hillbillies in Sweden or France is downright shameful.

              [–]hores 13 points14 points  (1 child)

              Vice's coverage is super-biased towards the left. Simon is a complete tool of a reporter and is just another pawn in the mass-media disinformation scheme. The entire Ukraine conflict coverage is complete propaganda.

              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Vice used to do the sort of cool journalism you found in Lads mag like Loaded and FHM back when lad culture was acceptable:football hooligans, drug lords, sex tourism-cool shit. At some point it changed tack and is now just another voice of the establishment with political correctness, feminism and social justice replacing what made it decent. That global citizen thing the other day from the UN and the world bank was associated with Vice.

              [–]1Claude_Reborn 66 points67 points  (33 children)

              This is utterly hilarious. Never ever listen to women like this, because they are so far up their own arseholes that they can see out their own nose.

              They are completely unable to see that men don't want to date them because they lack any of the qualities men want. They can't understand that men and women find different things attractive.

              They are completely incapable of understanding the world from any other perspective but their own.

              I need to buy stock in some sort of cat / cat toys company because all these women in 10-20 years are going to need a lot of cat related items.

              I'll happily watch these feminists whether and get bitter, as I stay with my fit, feminine, personable, fun, flirty wife.

              I'll laugh has I get a young hot 20 something side girl (semi open marriage ftw!) and the bitter looks I'll get from the dried up, bitter post wall women will drive me to lift more, just to spite them.

              Modern Feminism did this, and I think that as things get worse women are going to have their "fight club moment" and then turn on feminism like a pack of rabid dogs.

              Then again, that might take a level of a self awareness and reflection that most women are completely unable to achieve.

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                [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (7 children)

                then start listing their "good qualities" which are all the things they want in a man, but men don't give a shit about in women

                This is usually the angle I take when trying to explain the concept of "female solipsism" to people in this sub who seem to struggle to grasp it.

                It's one of the more clear and easy to understand examples really. Women desire a man with a strong career because it provides both safety and status. Therefore when a women acquires a strong career she presumes that it must increase her value significantly because it would increase the value of others in her eyes.

                When Johnny Doctor would rather date some flight attendant or barista rather than Sally the Attorney it brings soul crushing levels of confusion because it's difficult for them to see how Jenny the Coffee Girl could possibly have more value than Sally the power Attorney.

                Then they hamster it into hilarious shit like "he's intimidated because you're so independent" when the reality is a fit doctor doesn't give a fuck how much money you make because he has enough for the two of you and so he judges you on other qualities.

                [–]PaulAJK 30 points31 points  (3 children)

                It's actually the female equivelent of the old "nice guy" problem. BPs think that being seen as a great, friendly, kind, supportive, generous, loyal, warm loving man will attract women, because that's what we want in a girl.

                Men love women with those qualites, a guy will put up with all sorts of other shit if she's loving, loyal, kind, soft etc. So surely chicks do too, right? Whereas in fact women see a guy like that as a possible weakling who will be taken advantage of by others, a pushover who'll give his resources to people who aren't her and her kids.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I just realized this like twenty minutes ago, lol.

                [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

                Female attorneys are gross. So manly and....smelly. Running around in pants suits all day builds up a musty stink. Look at Hillary Clinton and tell me she doesn't look like she smells like straight asshole.

                [–]truchisoft 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                Betas have the same problem, they list their achievements for getting easy chicks, but they are all beta qualities.

                [–]Anderfail 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                Education and career matter more for a stable long term relationship, but for initial attraction? They mean absolutely nothing.

                My wife has an excellent career as a teacher, but that was not what led me to initially date her. It was the fact that she was hot, had very large boobs, an overall hourglass figure. I remember absolute nothing of the night that I met her (neither does she for that matter). That she turned out to be a very nice woman who actually gave a shit about people was also a huge bonus. Her career and determination really only affected long term stability, in the sense that it actually made her marriage material, as I would have dated her regardless of these.

                [–]1oldredder 27 points28 points  (11 children)

                I'm going to have to learn how to teach cats to deliver and open boxed wine.

                I'll be RICH.

                [–]1Claude_Reborn 3 points4 points  (10 children)

                First will be solving the PtW ratio of cats loaded with wine.

                Maybe drone delivery of Wine and cats?

                [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                I'll happily watch these feminists whether and get bitter, as I stay with my fit, feminine, personable, fun, flirty wife.

                Do you think they'd let that happen? God forbid a woman actually is all these things and married, while they just have... cats? If they're unhappy you're not allowed to be happy as the UN demands this.

                [–]1Claude_Reborn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Oh I am all over the UN thing.

                All gamers wanted to do is play video games in peace, now we are taking on the fucking UN.

                Next up, gamers cure cancer, solve the world energy crisis, and usher in a new golden age of humanity, and feminists / SJW's just bitch, moan and call us worse than NaziHitlerIsisKKK.

                [–]1PrinceofSpades 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Actually, with the increasing rise of old cat ladies to be, any sort of company dealing with cat related products, such as litter, is actually a stupidly good investment idea currently.

                Well, glad I found some research to occupy myself with tomorrow.

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                [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (7 children)

                I'm becoming more and more convinced that women are completely incapable of judging people's value on their own. They completely depend on men for that. I suppose this is why they shit test, they even depend on men to judge their own value.

                This article kind of struck a nerve with me because I skipped college (nevermind the fact that I make more money than a lot of doctors). I don't tell women how much money I make for obvious reasons, but now I don't even mention college to them. As soon as they hear I don't have a degree, they usually move on (especially if they do have a degree, regardless if it's in a worthless field). I mean, what are they supposed to tell their friends, right?

                [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                You're an evil man for having such standards.

                 

                I make more money than a lot of doctors

                Good doctors or shitty ones?

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                Hey, even shitty doctors make pretty good money.

                [–]IDefyAxioms 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Man, all the anti-college sentiment has got me shook as a college student (going into medicine, no less).

                [–]Organicdancemonkey- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                The world needs doctors. The frustrations being shown are due to there being no trade schooling system to compliment the university system we have today while at the same time the university's are charging a ridiculous amount for a less than stellar education. I'm sure you're learning how tough student loans can be to handle, and while you're smart enough to be in a program which will almost guaranteed a well paid career, not all degrees do so. You'll be fine.

                [–]_smosbol_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Yeah, your last sentence is so important. To women it's more about the social prestige that comes with having a partner with a degree even if it is worthless. That's how modern society still works and women are very prone to herd mentality, as we all know. If all of her girlfriends have a guy with an arts degree, she's not going to date a plumber right.

                [–]1DRMMR76 57 points58 points  (8 children)

                The hilarious yet sad thing is that a big part of her premise is based on the assumption that a college educated person is smarter than one who is not. Until "smarter" becomes a synonym for brainwashed, this is definitely not true in modern America. The vast majority of these educated women have degrees in sociology or West African poetry from 1850-1900 and are still as dumb as a bag of hammers. Their egos are just about a million times bigger. At least a hammer knows it's only good for one or two things and does them well.

                [–]pilledwillingly 30 points31 points  (5 children)

                I'm under 30, have 6 figures in the bank, and no degree. But the dirt under my nails disqualifies me from being a quality man.

                [–]1DRMMR76 7 points8 points  (4 children)

                Only by women you shouldn't want anyways. Down here in Texas there are some HB9s who won't look at a guy twice if he doesn't have dirt under his nails.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                I should move to fuckin Texas. Everything's bigger down there, ain't tit?

                [–]1DRMMR76 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                Everything except the SMU sorostitues. They're nice and tiny

                [–]p3ndulum 14 points15 points  (2 children)

                So, in summary, women need men like a fish needs water.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Yes, and something tells me that they're the ones who would be more bitter about not getting married and having children.

                [–]aa223 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                If women can't find a man it is man's fault, if women are happily married to a dominant men it is men oppressing them, if women are married unhappily to a provider who is a pushover it is man's fault, if women have more opportunities but are losing quality men as a result it is men's fault.

                Let's face it everything is our fault because these type of women have enough mental gymnastics to win the gold medal in the Olympics. They don't realize that the women who know that they need to snag a good man and they prefer to learn how to be a good wife are already ahead of the curve and hopefully have curves.

                The more they indoctrinate men into their thinking the more they risk needing to take on more burdens and yet even with that they will be too blind to see but no worries because they will be happy to be the blind leading the blind. I am looking forward to the day where shit gets so messed up that even men who aren't fit and not that good looking but know how how to do blue collar work (repairs, electrician, using a computer, first aid, plumbing, etc) and have the attitude an alpha does will be sought after because they have no choice but to eventually submit.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Why the fuck does society listen to these bitches? Besides the fact they find it useful to distract us, at some point they'll stop though right?

                [–]aa223 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                They won't stop until everything is burned into cinders around them. What I am more angry about are those betas that enable this behavior. I swear I want to do what my parents did to me and punish them with the belt but they might get turned on since they are used to being whipped.

                [–]MrRexels 13 points14 points  (3 children)

                ''Her insight continues in the form of a Hyper.Actuating.Mental.Sytem.Transiently.Rationalizing.Everything.Readily or what trp simply refers to as a Hamster:''

                You put an extra R in there mate.

                [–]Donuteater780 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                What about "Hyper Actuating Mental System Transient Everything Rationalizer"

                [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children)

                Hyper.Actuating.Mental.Sytem.Transiently.Rationalizing.Everything.Readily

                Felt like a Codename Kids Next Door moment right here lol. Great write up!

                [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                It's cause of GLO we know nobody wants to read boring shit. Thank you for reading.

                [–]Jester2552 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                Really hate how suddenly you aren't "smart" if you don't have a degree. Some of the dumbest people, both men and women alike, I've met in my life have college degrees.

                [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                men have been dating down for centuries. I don't understand why women have a problem with it. women want what men had right? so that includes dating down.

                [–]yaardi 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                It's not just women, both men and women are unlikely to date and marry across those lines. It just doesn't matter for the men because the pool of educated women is so vast that their own classism doesn't really punish them.

                What? If that's true that would mean a lot of men without degrees can't find enough women without degrees, since women with degrees are increasing in numbers.

                [–]Squeezymypenisy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                It mentioned in the article that working class men were more populous in the dating pool than working class women.

                [–]LionLaw 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                ? Michael?

                Man this guys story actually managed to piss me off.
                It's fucked up enough that men are harassed for "slut shaming" when wanting to inquire about a potential partners past, but the idea that women actually sit in groups and laugh amongst themselves about their strategy to ride the cc as long as possible before settling Dow with a BB is just heartless.
                I can't understand why these women bother to keep living, I would kill myself if I had this little self-respect

                [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                the idea that women actually sit in groups and laugh amongst themselves about their strategy

                You'll have to see overhear it someday to believe it. It works quite well like it or not.

                [–]Ojisan1 9 points10 points  (5 children)

                There's so much insanity in this piece I can't even begin to do the job OP did in analyzing it. Two points, though.

                "Being unwilling to consider working-class guys affects women in ways that it doesn't affect men. It's totally unfair, and I get that."

                First of all, this fetishization of a college degree. My personal trainer has a college degree, and I don't. I have a career in technology and make enough to afford a personal trainer, and she doesn't. She's working class, a plumber has as much of a skill as she does, even though the plumber doesn't need a college degree, and she has a job, not a career. A plumber will, more often than not, be an entrepreneur or small business owner.

                Not every liberal arts or PE graduate is a "successful career woman" but they sure seem to assume that level of arrogance in this article. A lot of the female college grads are nurses, or grammar school teachers, or have other college-level qualifications for working class jobs like accountancy. A lot of them have total bullshit degrees, like gender studies or art history.

                Far and away, the best dating market in the country for women is Silicon Valley, San Jose, San Francisco. Even with the gay population

                I call bullshit. Even if you ignore the gay population, Silicon Valley is overflowing with beta and omega male geeks, Indian and Asian immigrants on H1b visas, and other undateables - women in the Bay Area have a saying about the dating pool there: “The odds are good, but the goods are odd.” Women in the Bay Area have to ask the men out. Every time I travel there, my tinder account is buzzing. Then, if you further subtract the gay population, and it's pretty grim for a woman who wants the tingles.

                [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                It's simple really. Men who have degrees are attractive (because degree = stability, but they don't realise this). So if they get the degree they should be more attractive too right? You'll never hear men in a club saying damn she's got a great degree, and did you see her Mensa scores!

                 

                Then, if you further subtract the gay population, and it's pretty grim for a woman who wants the tingles.

                Not if you're looking for a betabux with a golden parachute. FTFY.

                Are the Bay Area women on Tinder attractive?

                [–]Ojisan1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Some are, some aren't. But more than just a few of them are every bit as unhinged as the ones being discussed in the article - those "too highly educated to find a good man" women.

                [–]TheSliceman 26 points27 points  (43 children)

                So recently something happened to a friend of mine (and myself) that really put the college scene in perspective for me.

                College is a scam. Its a con. Its a society-wide con. One of several currently being pull in the Murcan people.

                Women are more prone to following by nature. Whatever society leans in a certain direction, they do the same. This applies even when society is pulling a con.

                As men catch on the con, they opt out: Numbers of men in college are dwindling.

                Women arent catching on to the con: Record numbers of women in college each year.

                The con is being pulled off very well so society still thinks going to college is a good thing so to the untrained eye, this would show that women are increasing their station in life and men are on the decline.

                But, of course, the opposite is true.

                As for storytime. I wont bore you with the details but I recently met a girl who is in 100K of debt to get a STEM degree and with it only earns 40K a year. She isnt even paying off the interest on the loan. I said fuck school, make 70K doing sales no debt. Im living like a motherfucking boss while she is slowly drowining in a hole she will never get out of even though she is the one with the STEM degree.

                Moral of the story: Women are going to have to learn the college con the hard way. Even after they make up 100% of college grads, they will still earn less. Good job feminism.

                [–]terabyter9000 15 points16 points  (3 children)

                To have your mind even more blown, watch this series about schooling by John Taylor Gatto. There are 5 parts, 1 hour each. Talks about how us plebs get a Prussian Model education while the elites get a classical education (trivium method).

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8 [Part 1]

                [–]KimJongUntzUntz 19 points20 points  (7 children)

                If everyone thought like you, then people would need to start visiting the barber again when they needed to get their appendix removed. Ill agree that college CAN be a scam, depending on your degree (typically the degrees that women and bb seek); but many facets of our modern society depend on people with advanced degrees.

                The bridge you rode across to get to work...the motorcycle you did it on...the breakthrough 14 nm skylake processor in your sweet new Surface Pro 4...

                That shit was not designed by dudes who sell time shares 9 to 5.

                [–]bat_mayn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                If everyone thought like you, then people would need to start visiting the barber again when they needed to get their appendix removed.

                Not really. His point was that for the masses, college is a con - which it is. Professionals will always be professional, and there will never be a shortage.

                There will never be a shortage of suckers. College is absolutely nothing like it used to be. The point is that people now go to college because "that is what you are supposed to do" - they get in the back of the line and follow the herd. Completely anathema to how it was intended for the purpose driven, to lock down an intense training regimen for a skill you really desire to possess.

                [–]IDefyAxioms 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                It really comes down to what you are going after in college. Too many people go to get worthless degrees, but fail to make connections or get any real purpose from it.

                Engineers, med students are where it's at. Don't devalue a college education - certain fields are still highly valuable and are impossible without one.

                [–]rockumsockumrobots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Last autumn I decided to man up and go to college for 10 credits on the road to finish my computer programming degree while working full time in IT after striking out on entrepreneurship. They said that my 2 year programming degree I was shooting for would be useless and employers were looking for four year degrees, then my homework snowballed from another obligation I had.

                Now I'm taking the money I saved for college and putting it towards rental property. I'm only 23 and I'm already fed up with the idea of paying for the privilege of working for someone else.

                I know I'm not the only one who feels like this, but the college -> career -> white picket fence, is such a strong narrative that going against it makes you feel...substandard.

                [–]mrmeyhemn 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                "Where have all the good men gone?!"

                feminist schools and things like no fault divorce rape killed masculinity. enjoy the cats.

                [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                Where are all the damn bicycles when a fish needs them?

                [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                Oh wow that last sentence pissed me off.

                You're less likely to get diagnosed with ADHD because girls act like GIRLS and boys get diagnosed for not acting like chicks.

                You get less jail time for the same fucking crimes, but I'm sure that's not skewing your data at all.

                And yes you do homework better, and it resulted in sooooooo many great female innovations and inventions....................oh wait.

                [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                Ayy lmao

                Why you fighting fire with facts?

                [–]terabyter9000 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                My favorite part of the article.

                "I kind of believe that once everybody knows that guys are acting like pigs or that women are better off expanding their dating pool, the behavior will change."

                So it totally wasn't the whores whoring around and thus men adapting to that and becoming players. Seems legit lol.

                [–]GMUwhat1234 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                Vice is a shit news outlet. It's full of liberal feminist anti-racist but oh so racist yuppie dumbo-crats.

                [–]hores 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Short, true, and to the point. Agree 100%

                [–]Squeezymypenisy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                The game keeps getting easier and easier. Damn I wonder what the females at Vassar college are like. Did you see him mention that some schools are now instituting an affirmative action for men? The irony.

                [–]RPthrowaway123 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Of course, one of the primary things they blame for all this is that more women are graduating college than men and it's our problem for not wanting to date these "strong, empowered womyn"! Nevermind that the massive gender imbalance would indicate to any sane person that we need to be GETTING MORE MEN INTO COLLEGE. They would probably just get expelled after Sally Slut accuses them of "rape" for kissing her at a party anyways...god this shit makes me angry.

                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                I don't care how awesome life is for women. I don't care how many advantages they have. I don't care how lopsided and in women's favor things are for women.

                Women will always find a way to portray themselves as victim. It's pathological.

                Being a victim means that it's someone else's job to fix the world even if the world is working perfectly in women's favor.

                Like the joke about the husband store: women are never satisfied.

                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                Maybe they mature faster intellectually, but they hit that intellectual glass ceiling pretty hard too

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Pretty much. Most women are no competition for a man who realizes the need to improve and does so consistently. It's not even close.

                It's almost as if we're driven differently. :shock: :horror:

                [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                Being smart isn't the reason why she can't find a man. Trust me.

                The thing with a lot of these more intelligent women you'll find around college campuses and major cities is they're probably lacking in some area that's crucial for LTR compatibility. For instance, I notice that a lot of women get "independence" mixed up with "expressing admiration" as if expressing admiration is some form of submitting to "his control" or whatever.

                These forms of admiration may be things like actually cooking a meal for your partner (which men should do too in my opinion), cleaning, giving BJs and great sex regularly, rather spending an evening with him going out to a nice restaurant for dinner rather than having a girls night out and partying.. etc.

                When things like this are missing from the picture under the idea of "independence", there's literally no point in being in a relationship because commitment = taking things forward. I'm sorry, but if you're not absolutely-the-fucking-best girl I've ever met then there's no point to me committing to you. I'd rather save my availability for someone who's worth it. No that's not me being "too picky" that's me having standards.

                Also, lots of these women refuse to accept the fact that hook up culture lifestyle means you're not relationship material. You can call the banana purple all you want but at the end of the day, I see it as yellow and it's not going to change. I have nothing against women who want to sleep around and bang like 40 dudes a year, but I don't want to be in a relationship with one. That's my personal standard and it's not going to change.

                I am in fact a good man. I'm smart, have a great future ahead of me, while I'm not a male model I'm a pretty handsome guy and have been told so by plenty of hot girls, I'm pretty cool and live a pretty interesting life too. I eventually want to get married, settle down, and have a family.. But that's not going to happen with someone who needs their "independence" (IE: not actually expressing admiration to their partner).

                Look at all those unhappy marriages and dead bedroom relationships that your coworkers, family, friends, parents, or maybe a past relationship of yours.. What's the point in being in that position when there's a life to live.

                [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Women got everything they wanted. And they're STILL not happy.....

                [–]moose_war 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                I like that women actually think getting a 4 year degree makes them smart, and that men who dropped out of college (like Bill Gates) are automatically dumber and less ambitious and make less money than them. My brother never went to college and makes 100k a year. A girl I know got an English degree at a school that cost her over 200k and she is make 44k a year tops with little job stability. Women are excellent at following the rules, doing their homework, and thinking inside the box...bully for them? I mean how many times can these women pat themselves on the back for doing shit ANY AVERAGE HUMAN can do? (EDIT: case in point)

                I hear about these "ambitious" women who put their "Careers" first. OK, fair enough...then I find out the woman works some goofy, cushy office job where she browses reddit or facebook for half the day while doing other shit. Holy shit, amazing ambition. These women aren't the next Tesla. As I said, my brother makes 100k a year doing sales and office work. I have never heard him brag about his career. Not one single fucking time have I heard him pat himself on the back. But women can't shut up about graduating college, working a 12 hour day or getting a promotion. And they seem to think that men are turned on by these things and that somehow men must do something for them.

                Thankfully it's pretty easy to tune these women out IRL.

                [–]_smosbol_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                My grandmother had a good saying about this. The sooner the fruit ripes the sooner it rots. And the entitlement really is astonishing.

                And also, almost all of the women I was in high school with achieved greatly in todays academic world. I, together with a lot of other guys, struggled to get through college with so and so grades.

                Yet when they open their mouth, for some reason, my brain shrinks and I think about how in the world they managed to earn that piece of paper. It's almost like school in general caters to women.

                [–]IndyBrodaSolo 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                The Department of Education projects that by the class of 2023, there will be 47 percent more women than men [graduating from college]. That's three women for every two men, essentially.

                The percentage will be even worse for these hypergamous career women, because when they say that they want "educated man" they don't mean just man with college degree, they actually mean man in high-status white collar job, like doctor, lawyer or banker.

                [–]ITworksGuys 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Here is the thing, men are simply ahead of the curve here.

                A college education is no longer a pathway to a stable job and good income. More and more men are seeing this and choosing not to pursue a degree and the crippling amount of debt that comes with it.

                Entrepreneurs, tradesmen, vocational skills are becoming a better alternative.

                When they do go to college they typically get degrees that pay and thus they have a better dating pool to choose from.

                It's not just women, both men and women are unlikely to date and marry across those lines.

                This seems like bullshit.

                The real difference here is that while most women want a college educated man, most men don't care if a women has a degree.

                [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Newsflash: being choosy reduces your options!

                Hypergamy narrows wimmin's options, and god damnit men need to do something about it, otherwise how will all these lonely women nail down their retirement plan marriage.

                [–]machimus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I'm just telling you by the numbers I think they're less likely to act like dickheads because they don't have the same kind of leverage.

                There you have it, it's all about leverage to her. And if she had the leverage over the guy...well, I'll leave it at that.

                [–]vicious_armbar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Far and away, the best dating market in the country for women is Silicon Valley, San Jose, San Francisco. Even with the gay population.

                The odds may be good, but the goods are odd! LMAO!

                [–]1oldredder 5 points6 points  (7 children)

                Honestly women do date down but they hate it. Women hate being single more than dating down.

                [–]-rubashov 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                It's called 'settling' isn't it?

                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                In the Chad-won't-commit-to-her sense, yes, you could call it 'settling'. In reality though, the BB she 'settles' with will be providing for her lifestyle, so she still wins. Right?

                BTW, I hate both the word and the idea of 'settling' down.

                [–]NiceKicksGabe 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                I personally don't think women date down. If they could get a better guy, they'd have him.

                [–]SnoopKittyCat 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                Let's put that in perspective. Girls and young women strive in the school and college system because it is formatted for them: sitting in class, doing exactly what the teacher says, regurgitating the knowledge like a parrot. As for university and research what's even more true nowadays is you can not deviate from the politically correct, try doing a PhD in history studying the holocaust, or the French revolution in France, if you deviate a tiny bit from the accepted version of history you are doomed, literally, your manuscript won't even be accepted to be read.

                So all the risk taking, the inventiveness, the discovery, the hands on, are very much put aside, so of course boys can not express and develop their abilities as much as they should.

                [–]sir_wankalot_here 4 points5 points  (5 children)

                Learn about marketing dude.

                BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM TO FIX.

                Go read how to win friends and influence people. 95% of people, and particularly women want solutions where they have to do little work and more importantly they can blame someone else.

                The 5%, well they are usually successful business people etc. So with these types of guys you can tell them this is where you are going wrong, this is what you have to do to fix it. But they will want you to back up your points, if you can't they will roast you alive.

                My case I was working for one of the 95%, despite being unable to barely turn on a computer he was telling me how to do the job he hired me to do. I put up with it for a few days, but then he started to blame me so I told him you better find someone else to do the job and I quit.

                But for the 95% if you are selling them something, and vox is selling entertainment. It is always someone else's fault.

                [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                Not sure why you're being downvoted. Your comment is gold, which I do not possess. I therefore award you this silver.

                But they will want you to back up your points, if you can't they will roast you alive.

                That's quite the warning.


                Read your comment three times to get the idea down. Saved it as well. You're on to something.Thanks mate.

                [–]sir_wankalot_here 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                As I said read "How to win friends and influence" people ☺ Dale Carnegie was originally a loser. But then he got his start in sales, and he figured out that secret. In depression USA the guy was pulling in $500 a week a huge sum of money when there was 25 to 30% unemployment.

                His book is a classic. And it was the first book to directly tell people this. It actually took me many years to see his wisdom, and it wasn't till I joined TRP and hung out for a while that it still did not click.

                Most people don't want success, they want excuses why they failed.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Carnegie

                [–]donttellthefamily 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                Where I'm from we have a saying "tradies get the ladies" being a tradesman can often be very lucrative in Australia and they (sometimes) stay in shape from the physical work they put it.

                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                Trades make massively decent (and more importantly, stable) income in the EU too. Regardless it is looked down upon in general I would say.

                With most women status will trump actual income, it's just that they often correlate. Women would prefer an entry level public defender (lawyer!) making 50k a year to a plumber making 80k a year generally speaking - I'm nearly certain of it.

                [–]hores 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                AWALT - I would say that this sentiment is the same here in the states. Status > *

                [–]1Snivellious 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                That interview would have been less embarrassing if she'd dropped the pretense and straight-up licked him.

                Great observation on the false equivalence here. We can't say this is a problem with women's behavior, because that's sexist. Instead, it's a gender-neutral issue that just happens to be affecting women because they're so much smarter and more successful. All of which completely ignores the studies showing that men date down across education boundaries far more than women do.

                [–]An_All-Beef_Engineer[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                less embarrassing if she'd dropped the pretense and straight-up licked him

                The other woman is his wife, if that counts for anything.

                it's a gender-neutral issue that just happens to be affecting women

                You get it. However the beatings will continue until morale improves.

                [–]grewapair 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                What a surprise, colleges treat men like shit and they run for the exits.

                [–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                The Department of Education projects that by the class of 2023, there will be 47 percent more women than men [graduating from college].

                you created your own problem there. I mean. if they stop making it easier and easier for women to graduate and harder and harder for me to, then wouldn't it be balanced? or at least closer together?

                [–]iiMSouperman 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Hyper.Actuating.Mental.Sytem.Transiently.Rationalizing.Everything.Readily

                Hamstrer lol

                [–]1RXRob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I would apologise for not going to university, but I couldn't find a degree course in DJing or wrestling.

                I may not have a piece of paper or letters after my name, but I've got profitable skills that very few people possess.

                [–]PlusGoody 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                The women with this complaint are all ugly. I live and work in NY, supposedly the hardest dating market for educated women. Nevertheless NO good looking women under 40 lack for educated socially adapted male attention.

                [–]NotRAClST2 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                this is my new favorite show. Worthless rich Chinese girls of Vancouver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1RlVp9AbzE

                [–]Feliy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Oddly enough reading this just after bloodmoon happened, so my moon is rather red, not blue.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                What % of those touted female degrees are Art History or Gender Studies

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I am into successful women. If she is educated she will more likely exude good courtesy and will have more things to talk about.

                Too bad most of them are fucked up in their heads.

                Luckily they are usually very insecure and they can't resist tingles flow when they are being man handled even from a garbage collector.

                Which means they are not hard to fuck but hard to lock in ltr, because she won't commit to anything less then male 10.

                [–]2popthatpill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                High-Availability Mental System Tenaciously Ejecting Rationales

                [–]Sdom1 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                You have to love the reasoning in the article:

                Fact: Women graduate college at a much higher rate than men. Conclusion: This is obviously meritocracy! Women's brains are just better than a man's!

                Fact: Men dominate the tech field. Conclusion: The tech industry has a problem! It is discriminating against women!

                Of course, what isn't mentioned is that one of these things is an artificial, highly political process, while the other is much more objective (make a shitty product, go out of business, that simple).

                [–]zephyrprime 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                What I don't like about this article is how the writer keeps complaining about how hard women have it BUT in the very same article a counter-vailing trend is pointed out:

                "Does that mean in the working-class dating market there are a lot of single men? What implications does that have?

                Among non-college-educated singles ages 22 to 29, there are 9.4 million men and 7.1 million women. And if you look at the women in that age group who are non-college-educated, something like 30 percent of the women are married but only 22 percent of the men are married."

                So you see, it's actually only the college educated women that have this problem. The non-college educated women benefit from the converse portion of the phenomenon that the author is complaining about. However, the author is so solipsistic that she is blind to the fact that most women don't even go to college.

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