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Red Pill ExampleRed Hot Chili Peppers Guitarist Ex-Wife Demands $75k Per Month in Alimony (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by MisterMojoMan

Just in case you somehow haven't gotten the hint that marriage is a terrible idea, I've decided to add another case to the long and steadily growing list of divorce horror stories.

Meet Nicole Frusciante. She is the ex-wife of ex-Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante. After their divorce, John was forced to pay Nicole $20k per month (that's $240,000 per year), but apparently that wasn't enough for her. She is currently fighting for a $75,000 monthly alimony payment.

Keep in mind she was only married to him for 4 years, they have no kids, and he is no longer in the band.

Here are the articles:

http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/03/john-frusciante-divorce-wife-red-hot-chili-peppers-guitarist-alimony/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3258767/Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-ex-guitarist-John-Frusciante-s-estranged-wife-demands-75-000-month.html

It's been said before, and I'll say it again: Do not get married.


[–][deleted] 244 points245 points  (31 children)

I can't believe some states still do this lifetime alimony crap

[–]OwlsExterminator 86 points87 points  (27 children)

For her it is supposed to be no more than 2 years (1/2 length of marriage) if necessary. But see below, women game the Courts and can keep it going for decades....

She filed in Los Angeles, CA. In California there no fault divorce and for spousal support there is long term (over 10 years) and short term (under 10 years). For short term it is supposed to be limited in time (around 1/2 the length of the marriage). But can be long enough for the other person to find a job and support themselves.

However, practising divorce law myself the woman even for short term get around the time limits and often never get a job, other ones will go back to school (usually 4 years of night classes at law school) and the guy ends up footing the bill. Divorce law in California is so sick, so biased and unjust to me as a lawyer I stopped doing family law entirely. What was once just issues of what was moral and immoral became legislation to force what others thought was moral.

Litigating this her lawyers are just throwing out a demand knowing in settlement it will come down and they can get their bill paid for by him. Hence throw out ridiculous numbers and fight it out longer to make more money for everyone but the guy who pays for it all.

[–]vwww 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Is Nevada similar to California? Asking for a friend.....

[–]OwlsExterminator 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ooh can't say I'm not licensed there. Every state is different. In Texas there is at fault divorce and it gets really interesting as you can deviate from the state's typical no fault divorce rules...

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[–]vwww 0 points1 point  (1 child)

and community property...it sucks

[–]the99percent1 12 points13 points  (12 children)

I've said it many times before but lawyers are absolute dicks that add little to no value to society... especially modern day law.

[–]My_Dog_Jax 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Yes you're right. When I am sitting in a court of law fuck a lawyer. I happen to be well versed in the thousand of pages of law in my state and I'll represent myself. I know the ins and outs of law so well that it won't be a detriment to myself to do this.

/s

[–]OwlsExterminator 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah its cool to bash lawyers until you need one....

[–]jamesdeandomino -5 points-4 points  (5 children)

You're ignorant. You pass judgement on things you don't understand. This is beta shit. Educate yourself before you make yourself look like an ass in public.

[–]razormachine -1 points0 points  (4 children)

I was wondering. How do lawyers add value to society?

[–]TheSchnozzberry 11 points12 points  (3 children)

They are in essence supposed to be unbiased navigators of the law that you pay to help you in your time of need. They understand all sense of legalese and can use that knowledge for both the civic good or for more corrupt reasons. Nothing in this world is absolute though and it's important to remember that lawyers are people. Some people do good deeds some people do bad deeds. For example many lawyers do a certain number of cases a year pro bono as an act of community service.

I guess a TL;DR explanation would be they're paid to understand the law so if you have a court case you don't have to slog through books that stretch back hundreds of years to properly know how to defend yourself in court.

[–]jamesdeandomino 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Okay, tell me something: Who do you go to when someone destroys your house? Let's say it's uninsured. The cops? They'll take him in, alright. The prosecutor will charge him for arson and put him in jail even. But who's going to pay for your house? The cops don't give a shit, they already caught the guy. The prosecutor doesn't give a shit, he already got a conviction. What are you gonna do?

Second scenario: Your landlord kicks you out of the apartment you rented without prior notice. Who are you going to go to? Are you just going to be a bum? It's not something the cops give a shit about. It's not even a crime. Who the fuck do you go to?

[–]icallmyselfmonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people do good deeds some people do bad deeds.

People generally do good and bad things all the time. Everybody has multiple facets, and some are expressed more than others.

[–]RocketManV 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you know what divorce laws are like in Oregon? Obviously I can research into it further if you don't feel like answering.

[–]OwlsExterminator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know. Consult a lawyer in Oregon.

[–]allgameplaya 0 points1 point  (5 children)

How do you balance between being single and paying taxes? I've often found I would have have to pay a lot more in taxes if I were single.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Her upkeep while married will cost more than you pay in taxes every year. I don't get why everyone is always so hung up on marriage tax breaks.

[–]1james-watson 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Sometimes you gotta cut off your hand when your finger hurts.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Sometimes you gotta cut off your hand when your finger hurts.

I think you may have said that backwards. Sometimes you gotta cut off the finger to save the hand.

[–]1ErasmusOrgasmus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he was sarcastically mocking the other guy, bro.

[–]OwlsExterminator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not going to get married to save on taxes. Divorce rape costs a lot more. Otherwise I put a % of all income aside for taxes.

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (1 child)

how is it for life though. shouldn't it be fore the years married?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on the laws. Some get it for life

[–]aga080 112 points113 points  (32 children)

you all should read about Nas and his horrible whale of an ex-wife

she gets something like 125k a month + child support

[–]ChadThundercockII 49 points50 points  (16 children)

125k a month ? good God ! You can support several families with that kind of money.

[–]Eyehavenoidea 30 points31 points  (10 children)

She also gets 50k in child support

[–]razormachine 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That's another 50 000 reasons to raise all your money from your bank account, but false identity and flee to another country.

[–]dimmy666 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Or, you know, to not get married.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Quite literally... 25 families could be living well on that. How can that be justified by anyone?

[–]ChadThundercockII 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Make it 281 family in my country.

[–]RedSyringe 124 points125 points  (2 children)

Don't you understand, being a mother is the hardest and most important job in the world!?! /s

[–]iwish4zombies 68 points69 points  (1 child)

They bend over at the waist putting dvd's into dvd players!

[–]ThouArtNaught 19 points20 points  (0 children)

[–]stabb 17 points18 points  (2 children)

as in nas nas nas it aint hard tell?

[–]phuckyothots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As in Nasir bin Olu Dara Jones.

[–]TekkomanKingz 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Child support ended and she's broke.

[–]Tom_The_Human 7 points8 points  (2 children)

How the fuck do you become broke after a windfall like that?

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 10 points11 points  (0 children)

People are generally terrible at managing money. Hood rats with 6th grade educations even more so.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

pay for a fucking assassin already.

[–]coreldh 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'll never get married in cali

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Don't get married at all, remember if you get married somewhere and move/reside elsewhere you can use those laws in the divorce, not the laws where you got married.

[–]tedcase 100 points101 points  (13 children)

Shit like this should be a massive blow to feminists everywhere!

She a strong independant womyn who don't need no man!.. Just his money.

[–]ShockMonsta 44 points45 points  (11 children)

Nobody will see it that way, the fairer sex does no wrong.

[–]Redasshole 30 points31 points  (9 children)

Makes me think about that UFC fighter who bet that he could win against ronda rhousey. He put 100 000$ on the table and if she loses she makes him a sandwich. I sincerely hope he destroys her with no mercy and he doesn't hold back. But even if he does so thus showing that men are physically superior to women, he will be the bad and mean UFC fighter who molested a woman.

Woman can't lose. Men can't win.

I still want to see ronda rhousey humiliated by a male fighter. But that surely will not be shown on TV.

[–]ShockMonsta 16 points17 points  (2 children)

The fact that her winning is infinitely more beneficial than him winning says all we need to know. If she was confident in her ability to win she'd put down 100k.

Note: I know nothing about this situation, I'm going purely based off of what you just said.

[–]Tom_The_Human 21 points22 points  (1 child)

The thing is, Rhonda's not an idiot; she won't even fight transgendereds as she knows that they're not real women and would destroy her in a fight.

[–]destraht 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A dude who trained every day for a living and was only 50% as strong as me could have a real chance at kicking my ass. She is strong enough to hurt me and its not unusual for me to be strongest guy in a room. If I trained for it as a living or even a few years then though then zero chance.

[–]Liberdade7890 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Are you referring to Tank Abbott?

[–]razormachine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Man gets a sandwich = man wins

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[–]Redasshole 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have nothing against her personnaly, but I do have something against all the SJW and BP guys who uses her as an example that women > men. I have something against what she represents. Because of her, the blue pill conditionning is becoming stronger.

[–]Kindlyeggus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9xjs2fWJEs

She has in sparring before. She is a pretty good fighter and all that but a male with strength and a similar level of training of BJJ is usually going to come out on top.

[–]OwlsExterminator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, they play the victims.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 96 points97 points  (19 children)

What? You mean she can't support herself as the 'drummer' for 'Swahili Blonde'? >snicker< And check out that photo. She's a 5, maybe a 6 on her best day. Her ONLY talent was spreading her legs for a wealthy man. Srsly, this bitch is basically a hooker that thinks she should keep getting paid long after the sex has stopped.....

[–]_LifeIsAbsurd 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Exactly. She's not that attractive and her "job" was being drummer to some no-name band. Anyone who thinks she would have ever made it to a point where she would be paid 75k a month or hell even 20k a month is insane.

Her only talent is she spread her legs for the right person. And now she thinks she's entitled to a large part of the 14 million he's worth when they were only married for less than 4 years? Fuck this woman.

Nicole Frusciante says in divorce docs the initial $20,000 payment she got from John doesn't cut it. She says it would be an enormous step down from their life as a married couple, with 3 homes, personal assistants and a private music studio.

This fucking logic.. It's fucking ridiculous.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 11 points12 points  (4 children)

This fucking logic.. It's fucking ridiculous.

100%. WHY the fuck is she ENTITLED to maintain her 'lifestyle' when she is no longer fulfilling her role as his wife?

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Find the answer to that and we'll all live happily ever after.

Everyone focuses on the woman's lifestyle, what about the man's lifestyle? Should he not be able to enjoy the fruits of his labor? What has me really pissed is how women end up going to court for more alimony and/or child support after the man gets a raise at work or whatever.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I've seen men get crippled by this in real life. Men making 6 figures living worse than a student in college.

I've been there in the room when a man asks a lawyer "What can I do about recovering half of the XX thousand that my wife took from the safe in our home?". Pleading with the lawyer, rephrasing the question and hoping for a different answer than the one received. The same man that told me "if we ever divorce, she would never take a penny, she's not like that at all".

She crucified him on the cross.

Before he put the plan in action to leave her, I told him what he needed to know. She will take every penny and every two years she will take him back to court to fight for more. I told him about what happened to the other men I know who went through the court system. I educated him on how to prepare for everything, a list of what to document and arrange. It didn't matter. A lifetime of programming made him believe in his heart that "she's not like that".

Think it's over once you're crippled financially? She better have a job, because if she doesn't and moves in with family temporarily or finds a branch to swing to, you are fucked. That's 16 hours a day that she will put into fucking your ass. You are now playing timed chess against an opponent with 5x the time to plot their move.

She will withhold your child from you under whatever agreement you have arranged. You will have to call the police. No they won't do anything, they will tell you to go back to court. You will spend more time and money on legal proceedings and so will she. Then you'll get to pay for her expensive lawyer. Oh, wait, you were paying for the mortgage and utilities while you were separated and in the divorce proceedings so you wouldn't default and fuck your credit? Well, that doesn't count towards alimony. She was using common money to live while you were separated? Doesn't count either. Pay this ridiculous amount monthly, and you're in arrears of X months.

Also you need to get court ordered life insurance on yourself because if your ass happens to die while you are fulfilling your life purpose of being an ATM machine, she won't be able to get her mani/pedi. And she needs that to attract her next victim. You are now in financial prison for X years.

Every salary increase or even randomly, she will request more cash or request information to get more cash. You can also bet that your kid will be attending every single possible camp, outing, school event, expensive art project. You're either paying for the thing, or if you're lucky then you'll pay half.

Now that we got the money out of the way, let's talk about the kid(s).

She will fuck that kid's head up faster than you can fix it. "Your daddy is very stupid and he's a bad person". Fun shit to deal with while you have your kid for those two days every two weeks right? Then this ex wife finds some halfwit to be with, and now you have to deal with him being a father figure in your own child's life. Are you prepared for this man to come up to you and tell you how he thinks your own child should be raised? If you swing, you'll lose your job and you won't be able to see your kid.

Don't worry, both him and your ex wife will respect you and be courteous when you come to pick up your kid. "Did you teach her how to swear, or were one of your whores around to teach her? Yeah I know you have been waiting to pick her up for 35 minutes but I had to finish preparing her. Jack says that you don't know how to raise a child, he's right. I need $300 for the school trip and $200 for school supplies. Child support doesn't cover that. Would you like to go back to court?"

Are you ready for this?

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are now playing timed chess against an opponent with 5x the time to plot their move.

It's a good thing women suck at chess. /s

Also you need to get court ordered life insurance on yourself because if your ass happens to die while you are fulfilling your life purpose of being an ATM machine, she won't be able to get her mani/pedi. And she needs that to attract her next victim. You are now in financial prison for X years.

I'm surprised that when this happens more men don't opt out with some .22 calibre asprin applied directly to the forehead. After all most life insurance policies don't cover suicide within the first 2 years of having it and I doubt family court can force an insurance company to pay out since those companies have a lot more lawyers on hand to deal with shit.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 67 points68 points  (8 children)

I have no idea why he married a fatty. Fat women don't deserve love.

[–]Entrefut 24 points25 points  (2 children)

I'd pay her alimony just so I didn't have to see that shit naked ever again.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 23 points24 points  (0 children)

All she had to do was hit the tread mill and she'd be cute. But that seems to be too much to ask much of modern women: slugs.

[–]skoobled 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Gluttony usually doesn't stop at the refrigerator. It's a fundamental character flaw.

She probably got fat after she married a rich man, but the gluttony was already there

[–]Redasshole 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Modern women don't deserve love.

[–]PicklesofTruth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This had nothing to do with love.

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[–]whydoievenreply 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is mostly ignorance. They don't know, because it isn't mainstream knowledge. I pity the fool.

[–]razormachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She is getting paid long after the sex has stopped -.-

[–]ramot1 34 points35 points  (10 children)

Arizona still does alimony for life.

Source: Alimony for life payer.

Marriage-Never Again

[–]1runnerrun2 8 points9 points  (1 child)

If you're already on the hook for alimony, won't it favor you to get another wife - or another kid?

[–]ramot1 10 points11 points  (0 children)

NO. In some states, but not mine, your new wife's earning are figured into a new earnings statement, which will usually result in increased alimony. Basically a new wife would be paying alimony to your ex too.

American justice is so fucked. Never marry!

[–]AndreNowzick 1 points1 points [recovered]

what if you just moved to a different state?

[–]ramot1 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Usually doing so won't help much. States all have to give credit to outside court orders, so they will still attach accounts and put liens on property.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Jesus Christ you should post your story here. Good luck.

[–]ramot1 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It won't change things. When folks say Marriage- Never Again, there is a bad story there for sure.

MARRIAGE--NEVER AGAIN

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Every story matters. If one man reads it and it clicks for him, it mattered. If it saves one man from marrying a parasite it mattered. TRP is growing exponentially and it's due to stories like yours.

[–]AndreNowzick 1 points1 points [recovered]

so just put all your money in foreign accounts and bitcoins. Also, make yourself as inconspicuous as possible. Change your name even.

If a court ever told me to pay alimony for life, I would do everything within my ability to pay as little as possible and hide all my assets.

Remember: They can't take what you don't have.

[–]ramot1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are things you would have to do long before a divorce even starts. After it starts, you come under the control of the court, which will order you to not do these very things. And if you are caught doing them, you get to go to jail for failure to obey a court order.

Chairman Mao said that power comes from the end of a gun, and that is just how divorce is served in america

[–]Themooseconnection 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for the feminist outrage on Twitter over the double standards of alimony. /sarcasm

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (14 children)

Can anyone play devil's advocate to argue in favor this? I don't understand why this is a thing.

[–]axxxman 48 points49 points  (1 child)

I literally can't think of one single argument. It's just insane.

The only way this makes sense is if the law considers women utterly helpless and unable to take care of themselves.

[–]ioncloud9 19 points20 points  (2 children)

There was some billionaire whose exwife demanded money so he wrote a check for 900million and tossed it at her. Apparently she felt disrespected by that and decided to sue him for half of his worth.. in liquid. He was worth $16billion, but certainly didnt have anywhere close to half in liquid.

[–]tsudonimh 22 points23 points  (1 child)

If that's the case I remember, she cashed the check and demanded more. The judge ruled that by cashing the check she agreed to the terms of the agreement and wasn't entitled to ask for more.

[–]doubledup-tn 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Poor her. Only $900million? How will she be able to live a decent life?

[–]HoundDogs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are no valid arguments that stand up to logical scrutiny. Only shitty laws and that's all it takes.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm not so sure about this. Don't we want the best genes making the most babies? Sure some guys get lucky to reach the top 1%, but most men who are smart ambitious and tenacious can get there with the same amount of luck available to anyone.

I think real problems will erupt not because of sex thirsty betas, but when food and rent prices start to consume the large majority of income for the bottom 2/3... or when NFL and Amerikan idol aren't available anymore

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[–]1james-watson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excellent posts, but minor correction. It's not money the females are attracted to, it's the power it affords.

There are many millionaire betas who don't know how to signal that their money affords them power, and thus they remain incel.

The ultimate female aphrodisiac is power. Never forget this.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alimony is a marriage 1.0 construct that has been corrupted into a tool of punishment for marriage 2.0. The original intent of alimony was so that a woman who through no fault of her own had to part from her husband would be provided for and she wouldn't need to you know sell her body on the street corner to survive. If she was at fault (aka. a cheating skank) she got nothing because it was assumed that the other man would be stuck providing for her.

[–]trudenter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Argue in favor of alimony in general? Or this specific case?

[–]mrmeyhemn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ill argue in favor of alimony when men start getting it from women in an outlandish percentage of divorce cases.

[–]TheBullshitPatrol 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Huge Frusciante fan here.

It'll be interesting to see how John handles divorce court. Vincent Gallo, a close friend of his, once described John in an interview as being the type to write off all other domestic concerns to focus on music. It's all he thinks about and all he cares about. I'm sure he'd happily just throw money at her to make her go away, but $75k monthly seems ridiculous, especially since he is now much less commercialized and makes much less money than he used to.

[–]DoerOfStuffAndThings 34 points35 points  (1 child)

I'm sure a one time $50k payment to a certain type of person would make it go away much cheaper.

disclaimer: I'm not actually suggesting or condoning the hiring of such a person, it was a joke.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm legitimately surprised men don't do this more often against leeches.

But then again..their judgement is fucked from the start anyway if they decided to even MARRY in the first place...

[–]ioncloud9 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah and when the money stops coming in the court wont allow him to adjust it because his "inability to pay doesnt absolve him from his obligation to pay." So they will throw him in jail until he pays.

[–]Redasshole 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You and I both know well enough to know that once he gives the 75$ she will sue him for more.

[–]HoundDogs 17 points18 points  (2 children)

This woman is worthless. She has done nothing of real value with her life besides convince a highly successful and highly talented multi-millionaire to marry her. That, in no way shape or form, entitles her to any of his money after she chooses to leave the marriage. Yet somehow we still have this legalized theft under the guise of "the lifestyle they are accustomed too."

Let's get this straight, women. After you leave a marriage and separate the property, you are not entitled to shit after that point. You gave that up.

I'd say the same thing to some worthless fuck who married Oprah for 4 years then demanded this kind of thing. You're just parasites.

[–]druganswer 7 points7 points [recovered]

it's like quitting your job and realizing your lifestyle won't keep up unless you get another job..

[–]MonkeyDFreecs 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I also read a story of a woman that demand her ex husband give her millions of dollars when he built up a multi million dollar company even though they've been divorced for over 20 years.

Women know no boundaries.

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[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The "I'm used to a certain lifestyle" argument infuriates me.

I was used to a certain lifestyle until the aftermath of the new economy crash in 2000. Unfortunatly there was noone to sue for alimony...

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Here's what alimony should be: Compensation for having the value of your labor decrease during your marriage. That's it. If you were a hairdresser and made $28k/yr, and married a billionaire and got divorced a year later, you shouldn't get alimony. Your labor did not decrease in value.

Well priced in fair value she lost her clients and may need to retrain. So what is that? $5k, maybe $50k?

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you read HuffPost articles complaining about a wealthy woman being taken to the cleaners, chuckle at the irony but also realize that it's a really good thing.

We shouldn't celebrate that for the same women that women celebrated it first happening with men. They said "its about time that a man suffers" and we should say "finally things are starting back on the long road to sanity".

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[–]Nieben 27 points28 points  (0 children)

We can do a simple analysis here of what she contributed to his life.

Step 1: Were you a necessary element that contributed to his success or were you a biproduct of said success?

If you answered: Necessary Element - Perhaps you could reasonably get a McDonald's burger flipper's annual wage for your contribution. Most people that contributed to his success don't actually get anything out of it. See: His father. His mother. The teachers in his life. His bandmates. ETC.

If you answered: Biproduct - Go fuck yourself, you're a leach and deserve the highest authority of a McDonalds burger flipper.

Oh, and I checked out her "band". It's complete fucking garbage. Even WITH this guy in it.

[–]savedarticles 9 points10 points  (0 children)

surprised she didn't bust out a kid to lock in the gainz... cute pic too- even cute homely looking women are gold diggers. Careful out there

[–]MarlboroMan62 10 points11 points  (3 children)

just thinking out loud, wonder how long ago they were sepearated? he broke off from RHCP a while ago and has been on his own doing solo stuff so he's not making the big bux that he was.

with only 4 years of marriage, that is considered short term in most states and the main horrors of divorce rape may not apply, but im assuming its california and they do things a bit different. i feel for the guy, John's been through quite a bit, some of it self inflicted.

[–]tedcase 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Getting married, Divorced and losing all your money is self inflicted.

[–]slay_it_forward 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Pretty much every good rhcp song was when Frusciante was in the band. He was the creative genius. Point being, he's still getting mad royalities off all those old songs.

[–]MarlboroMan62 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yes, i agree with both points, his backing vocals were just as crucial as his guitar. i hated to see him leave, it took a lot for him to get back the 2nd time. the exwipe was no where around when he was making those songs, thus shouldnt be entitled to the royalty money

[–]UniversalFapture 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Great God, what does she want that for, they have absolutely NO ties together. This is dumb as hell and really shouldn't be a thing

[–]iggybdawg 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There should be a cap on alimony, like $50k per year.

[–]RPmatrix 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She says it would be an enormous step down from their life as a married couple, with 3 homes, personal assistants and a private music studio.

Statements like this make me sick!

Also, $75k per month = $900k p.a.! Which means he'll be broke in slightly more than a decade!

Gold digging bitches shouldn't be able to use such Bullshit arguments to extract money from ex partners - - - I should be Illegal! Make a statement like that an go to jail!

[–]chillmonkey88 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Add another name to suicide watch.

[–]renotime 6 points7 points  (0 children)

At that rate Frusciante will be broke in less than 20 years.

He might get some residual checks here and there from being in the Chili Peppers, but he doesn't really make any money off of music anymore.

[–]getRedPill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But don't you understand is for the kiiidzzz!!!1 Oh sure, they have no kids.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Surely he has access to better divorce lawyers than she does? This shit must happen a lot right?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

No. He has to pay for an equivalent attorney for her.

[–]pantsoffire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck. Any man that still insists on getting married without becoming well versed in Divorce Law is a buffoon. I'm running out of sympathy.

[–]jace81 4 points5 points  (1 child)

4 years and no kids? You could fuck high end hookers for a year with 75k and have change left over.

Oh and he's a great fucken guitarist.

[–]Idioticaz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This makes me sick to my stomach and fills me with rage. Why do the courts and governments do this to men... I hope I see the day where men collectively stand up against this sort of crap. I have noticed a lot more red pill behavior in the past year within the comment sections of my local media websites when they publish these sort of articles though, so hopefully we will see some form of awakening before too long!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How in the fuck does alimony make any sense at all when there are no kids? Also, celebs shouldn't have to pay more just because they have more. What did she bring to that marriage that a middle class housewife doesn't bring to her marriage? What does a middle class housewife bring to that marriage that a lower class housewife doesn't bring to her's? I get it if a woman gives up her career for the kids, but she should have to show that was the case, and she should be getting enough to support children, which has nothing to do with the father's income.

[–]anooblol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it doesn't really add up. We're probably missing something, because alimony payments are basically just payments for what the woman "gave up on". But in her case she didn't really give up much to the outside viewer.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Disturbing. This is why I'll never get married.

[–]kingofcrob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is where you shift your money into bit coin, fake your death and move to a little beach town in Thailand

[–]Lord_shitmeister 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These stories are like beacons for all men broadcasting the good word: DON'T FUCKING GET MARRIED

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus. I'd be happy to get that a month, never mind a year. She doesn't deserve that much, it's not even like they were married when he was on the gear and she had to put up with a lot of shit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are judges not getting married, how come we never hear of stories where divorce lawyers/judges get burned by this? It would be nice to see such examples. Maybe then the system would change.

[–]nuesuh 1 point2 points  (1 child)

2,700,000,000 people live on less than 1$ per day. She wants 75k per month.

I hope someone hits her with a car

[–]zombig 0 points1 point  (1 child)

demanding that the band's ex-guitarist John significantly increase his initial $20,000 payment. Nicole states that she has no more than $30,000 in her bank account.

Wow, great money management skills!

[–]jace81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha I wish I had 30k in my account. I agree, don't think the lack of cashflow is the problem.

[–]SnoopKittyCat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Nothing to say that already been said except that John Frusciante is one incredibly talented artist and under rated rhythm guitarist, the guy is a groove artisan.

[–]UnsafeReload 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is nitpicky but why would call Frusciante a rhythm guitarist when he was the only guitarist in RHCP at the time and he played all the leads? He was their guitar player period.

[–]1RXRob 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I notice that she's keeping his surname though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The association with her ex makes her think her SMV is higher than it is.

[–]1RXRob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's keeping the valuable assets. The famous surname and the cash

[–]willofthemonk 1 points1 points [recovered]

20k$/month for alimony, that is just another moronic western law, there should be no alimony when you don't have kids unless the husband is physically abusive, and even then it shouldn't be more than minimum wage.

What is difficult in these 3 lines ???

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The exception for the husband being physically abusive. It's recipe for false accusations and bizarre definitions of "physically abusive."

[–]Junkname72 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The part that angers me the most is that he left RHCP in 2009. They were married for 4 years. Meaning, the bulk of his fortune was likely earned before they got married. In what sane world is she entitled to any of this? He hasn't done shit since he left the band. Sure, he gets paychecks from album sales, but come on.

[–]Titan_Wolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My coach taught me to not get married. He said being in a relationship is pretty much the same thing without the paperwork. Women need those papers more than men do.

[–]NotRAClST2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's got the money and the vices: While Nicole was John's first wife, he has had several relationships. These include a five-year relationship with musician Toni Oswald, a seven-month fling with actress Milla Jovovich, and a two-year romance with actress Stella Schnabel.

[–]Indigo_Monkey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking parasites, the lot of 'em

[–]Doctorpepperpants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh nice, I didn't realize she played in the band.

[–]anooblol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Legally he must have fucked up. Not taking away from her being a bitch. But he either had bad lawyers. Or she has great ones.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What if you were lucky and actually married someone who was as successful in her own career as you are in yours? Or someone with a truly good heart? Perhaps there are not many of them and I know I have to be careful, but I don't want to lose hope that I can actually marry someone who won't fuck me over

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think to attract a successful woman like that, you need to be quite successful yourself

[–]pantsoffire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The woman you marry will change a bit over the years and decades, child births, a miscarriage or 3, all her friends are doing it etc. Then you get chubby, slow and bald.

C'mon man, think about it.

[–]Herelam -1 points0 points  (13 children)

How about instead of bitching to other men telling them "don't get married", we instead do activism to get rid of alimony as a whole once and for all?

[–]muuh-gnu 8 points9 points  (11 children)

we instead do activism to get rid of alimony

Because alimony is just one of 1001 things that are wrong with the system. Fighting each one of them will just deplete your resources and youll spend years of your life fighting shit, while theyll come up with workarounds faster than you can fight them. Fighting the system from within the rules set by the system is an unwinnable uphill battle.

"dont get married" is a complete solution. it attacks, it john-galts the complete system. it lets it collapse under its own lunacy. you have to step back, give them rope and watch them strangle themselves, and then come back to generously dictate the conditions of their capitulation.

you may grow old waiting for the right opportunity to procreate, but thats to price you have to pay for your forefathers allowing democracy and female suffrage.

[–]1raceAround126 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The man has a point though. Alimony is one of those big deal things. And we gotta start somewhere.

I had a conversation with a girl at work a while back (previous role). I wasn't trying to fuck her but I know she gets around. I know she has the whole "no man will commit to me" thing going on despite being late 20s but pretty good looking. Yet, even she was finding a guy willing to commit difficult to find. That is, one who wasn't a complete loser. Let's face it any girl can get a low-rent factory worker who lives in his Mother's basement with barely two pennies to rub together at the end of the week to commit. A decent, built guy with a good job? Well that's a whole other animal isn't it.

But anyway, I was talking with this girl who at some point asked me if I was getting married. I just said flat out no way. After the initial shock, I just let her in on how badly men get destroyed at the end of marriage added to that the statistical likelihood of the wife going colder sexually than dying whale and most likely resembling one and purposely sabotaging the marriage meant that the likelihood of me taking the risk let alone my desire to do so was very much completely gone.

After some initial reactionary hamstering and "yes, but..." type shit, I think she almost had a light-bulb moment that the simple fact she existed and happen to be cute right now may not be enough after-all. We got onto different topics and eventually she said rather randomly, "Yeah, men do kinda get a bad deal from marriage..." I didn't respond to this at all, just carried on what I was talking about initially.

The point is, women at the moment, while AWALT, are not completely feminist brainwashed just yet. So while there's a fight to have to get something back there is at least some of them on our side.

How we dismantle an ingrained system like alimony, well, I have no idea. But having a target in the first place is a start.

[–]muuh-gnu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But having a target in the first place is a start.

I'm with you. My point was just that, if you target it at all, you should do it from the safe position outside of marriage. If you do that, your withholding of commitment will IMHO weight more than your activism. And also, just explaining to somebody why you dont want something isnt activism. Activism would be getting political, organizing, rallying, having pressure groups, etc. Thats a waste of time. Just withhold marriage and lean back.

[–]Herelam 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Sounds like an even BIGGER no win situation since there are still alotta men out there that will get married regardless of what you tell them or don't tell them as they're unfamiliar with the red pill. I've heard this "starve the system" bullshit over and over but that's not going to anything if you don't tell those in charge right away what's wrong.

[–]MisterMojoMan[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

It's not a matter of "starving the system". It's waking up and realizing that marriage is a shit deal and making the decision not to do it even though it is still the social norm. When I say "Don't get married" I'm not saying it because we need to "boycott the system". I'm saying it because it is the smarter decision as of right now.

And what other men do really does not concern me in the slightest. You can't control what other men do. You can only control what you do.

[–]Herelam 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Well that's fine. We STILL need to actively fight against the system instead of just ignoring it, cause then nothing is gonna change.

[–]MisterMojoMan[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You make a good point, but not participating in the system is fighting the system.

[–]Herelam 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Not really. Many men have done that in the past and nothing has happened. You don't have to join the system if you don't want to, but at some point, we have to go to those in charge and state what it is that's wrong with what they're doing.

[–]MisterMojoMan[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It's not that men choosing to opt out of the system doesn't work, the problem is that they are not doing it in large enough numbers.

[–]Herelam 0 points1 point  (1 child)

And that's not going to happen.

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mainly because even if by some miracle alimony was removed as a whole, what's stopping them from reimplementing it again? Tons of men get married because alimony is off the table and then boom, the rules to the game changes midway and you're fucked.

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