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Rant/VentingHilary's policies will be different because... **"vagina"** (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Pinkmistiscool

Summary

-Hilary Clinton's presidential policies must be different than Obama's because she'll have Lady bits

Body

-So I'll leave the link here for the article tearing down the debates. It's from The Blaze and I love Matt Walsh (very Red Pill thinker). The part I want to focus on is;

Hillary scored points on several occasions by noting that she has a vagina. When asked how her administration won’t be a third Obama term, the only difference she could highlight is her genitalia. Hillary has made it clear that she’ll bust out the “I’m a woman” card anytime her back is against the wall, and it will always work with her supporters because her supporters are *profoundly immature*.

This is just one more example of women not actually having to do or say anything of substance and being validated by the other womyn/manginas because "PATRIARCHY" rabble, rabble, rabble "MALE PRIVILEDGE"!!!!!

Lessons Learned

-Even the "Smartest Woman in the Worldtm" has to rely on the fact that she has a vagina because she has absolutely no substance outside of that.


[–]The_Man_on_the_Wall 105 points106 points  (9 children)

HAHAHA. I swear last night every time she did this I would mockingly yell back "Because I have a pussy".

Then they asked about how she would be different. I jokingly said... "Because I have a pussy", and sure enough Shillary didn't disappoint. And they LAPPED it up.

She even tried to play down the fact she IS the establishment by saying she's not because "She's a woman".

Pathetic.

[–]tallwheel 44 points45 points  (3 children)

Sounds like a good drinking game for the coming debates. Take a drink every time she mentions the fact that she is a woman.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 95 points96 points  (2 children)

Ethanol poisoning is a serious thing. That sounds far too dangerous.

[–]BannedBandit 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Unfortunately for us, this is going to work on about 52% of Americans.

[–]The_Man_on_the_Wall 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I know. It's why she's going to keep repeating it like a parrot until November '16 ...

[–]Lanefiger 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I just lost it at work imagining someone standing in front of the TV in front of thier couch yelling "Because I have a pussy!" every 5 minutes... have an upvote!

[–]The_Man_on_the_Wall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're not far off. Substitute a couch for my Recliner and imagine me standing up gesturing towards a phantom snatch while yelling "Because I have a pussy!!" and you've pretty much nailed it.

[–]neptunesunrise 76 points77 points  (30 children)

I can't handle watching the Democratic debate, and I'm a fucking Canadian. All I've heard so far:

  • "Um, they gave me lots of votes, so trust in that."

  • "Uh, the numbers speak for themselves."

  • "You should elect me because I have a background of popular opinion that tells you it would be the right thing to do. I'm a woman and I have black friends and I like trannies. 2016 WOOT."

[–]blue_27 41 points42 points  (7 children)

I hate the fucking fact that the goddamn election is over a YEAR away. We have to hear this shit for the next motherfucking 13 months.

[–]Redasshole 4 points5 points  (3 children)

She can't keep saying the same things for a year. C'mon.

[–]WafflesAndMarbles 27 points28 points  (0 children)

oh don't you underestimate career politicians.

[–]ShepardfucksEVERYONE 10 points11 points  (1 child)

In Canada we're having our election in a week. Parties have been campaigning for almost a year and a half.

Believe me.

They can say the same things the entire time.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He's just not ready. Nice hair though!

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (6 children)

"You should elect me because I have a background of popular opinion that tells you it would be the right thing to do. I'm a woman and I have black friends and I like trannies. 2016 WOOT."

That plus student load forgiveness is enough to sway the entire party.

[–]Redasshole 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Come on, seeing her dealing with Puttin would be a good comedy show to watch on saturday's night.

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[–]triperfecta 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Governmental stance aside, Putin is a man's man; he doesn't take shit from anyone. Did you see him bully Merkel with his dog:

I heard you're afraid of dogs.. here's a dog..

[–]ShepardfucksEVERYONE 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Is he? I've never actually seen him speak. Got any examples to share?

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[–]ShepardfucksEVERYONE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Apart from acknowledging their historical significance, I am impartial on Russia. I don't know even remotely enough about their situation or policies to make a judgement. Thanks for the video, I'll watch it when I get home.

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[–]TheManInTheCan 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Nothing as mind-bogglingly retarded going on though

[–]Soriq 247 points248 points  (102 children)

http://i.imgur.com/kwUIpTJ.jpg

The elites will put her in office. Enjoy the decline

[–][deleted] 111 points112 points  (12 children)

God, that soulless, plastic smile in the second picture.

(Shivers)

[–]Soriq 82 points83 points  (6 children)

[–]nem2k 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Looking forward to seeing that gif in my nightmares tonight

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's the thousand cock stare... what you think Bill was the only one getting some nookie on the side?

[–]Hotblack_Desiato_ 6 points6 points [recovered]

Are you implying that every other politician doesn't have one?

[–]DBTeacup 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I think it's more "her smile is soul scarring" and less "it's superficial, just like everyone else's."

Maybe that's just me.

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[–]no_more_junk 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Ignore the headlines. On the election day, go and vote!

[–]Oftowerbroleaning 56 points57 points  (35 children)

Trump will tear her to shreds in the general election debates.

[–][deleted] 97 points98 points  (21 children)

Not that I'd ever vote, but I want Trump to win just because everyone else is a pussy.

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[–]ilirm 2 points3 points  (1 child)

that was hilarious, he actually re tweeted it.

[–]O3EAN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy fuck that video is fucking gold.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (5 children)

He honestly wouldn't be as bad as so many say.

Not that I think he's the best in the field of candidates, but realistically presidents have so many staffers it's not like he has to make any decisions alone.

[–]3NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Yes. He won't be able to do nearly as much damage as his haters think he'll do, and he won't be able to make as much of a dent as his fans think he'll make. Presidents are much less powerful than we think they are.

Also, with Trump, he's a devil we know. We've seen his nonsense. We know what he likes. We know he's a bit of a douche, etc. He's open about it. With the rest of them, you never know what depraved shit they're hiding on the inside.

I'm not an American but I'd vote for Trump just to shake things up a little. Fuck it, make 'em squirm.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

shake things up

I think having a political outsider is nice. There's a reason the ones currently in the field are enjoying great poll numbers, people are realizing career politicians are just that, career politicians. The whole Trump funding his own campaign thing is interesting too, I'm not sure it's a big of a boon as people are making it out to be but it certainly doesn't hurt.

The only honest candidates out there in my view are Trump and Sanders, whom I despise based on his policies. I always liked Rand, but he shifted right to try and get the Republican base behind him and it didn't work, now he's stuck with being called a flip flopper or just having nobody behind him.

[–]doveenigma13 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep. We need a proud American in office.

[–]Pirvan 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Trump would be an absolute disaster and he's not the least bit a statesman because he's a small person. Sure it's fun with a 'yeah bro, fuck these losers' but it's not something you want in office.

Fortunately, he can't win. Demographics makes it virtually mathematically impossible. Whoever wins the Dem nomination becomes president.

[–]Phoenix_2015 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It doesn't help that the mother fucker is simple as fuck.

Campaign Slogan: "Build a wall, deport em' all..."

Foreign Policy Initiatives: "I'll make them respect me. Hey look at my polls!!"

The War on Terror: "Al-Nusrah? C'mon you guys are pulling my leg. Have you seen my latest polls?"

The Economy: "Hey I've built business, I'll do the same for the economy. Look at this poll..."

With the exception of deportation and wall building he's managed to find the same answer to every imaginable policy question. It's amazing, either he's a genius or the American public is really that stupid.

[–]bayerndj 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What recent politician has ever had an elegant solution to major problem? Any complex "solution" is based on belief system masquerading as contorted logic, and/or focus polls trying to appeal to greatest number of voters.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 17 points18 points  (12 children)

How old are you? If you've watched as many elections come as to as I have you'd know trump is indeed a sideshow to this whorls process. Hillary would out-gravitas him and the minute he attacked her she would be ready. She is not Fiorina or Megan Kelly. She has decades of experience getting shot thrown at her and always survives.

Trump will not be able to stand against her foreign policy knowledge. Shit he couldn't stand against any knowledge of hers. He will look like a buffoon. TRP needs to stop masturbating to trump to the stent that they think he can actually be president. He's entertaining because he holds his frame and that's about it.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Hillary dodged invisible sniper fire with a 9 year old in Bosnia when Bill was in office, so she plays the war bride angle.

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[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, that's the reason I said invisible sniper fire... Imaginary could work also.

[–]my_redpill_account 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Her supporters don't care. People eat that shit up without checking facts they're fucking stupid.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He's entertaining because he holds his frame and that's about it.

That's about the depth of political assessment in RP: STRONK MAN KEEP FRAME VOTE FOR STRONK MAN

[–]greenearth2 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Same thing happened with Ron Paul, and to a lesser extent, rand. They'll tout Bernie as 'enelectable' and being too old for office. Any excuse than to actually address the concerns he talks about.

[–]MightyYetGentle 40 points40 points [recovered]

Not that I have any pride in this country or care about anyone in it but if this fuckin snatch is elected I am getting legal residence of another country and just say I am working here. With the way this country operates internationally, having a woman in charge is the last fucking shit stain idea you wanna go through with. Plus it is going to make us look even weaker to the rest of the world.

[–]Soriq 38 points39 points  (2 children)

The fact that her "well, because I have a vagina" -smile- tactic garnered a lot of applause is hilarious, disturbing, and... expected.

Whoever they want to put in office, gets in office. You better start looking for wherever it is you plan to go

[–]MightyYetGentle 9 points9 points [recovered]

I already have places in mind. Hard to just pick up and and move a business there though.. especially when i would have to be ordering the necessary products overseas. Definitely agree with you though... Just need to squeeze out as much money as i can from my fellow americans and start bustin nuts in the 3rd world.

[–]MelodyMyst 21 points22 points  (2 children)

having a woman in charge

Having THAT woman in charge...

I might feel different if it was Maggie thatcher running.

[–]LugerDog 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Same way i felt about the "first black president" obama is shit an Powell would of been my vote for sure. Sad thing is I didn't even vote last time as it didn't matter anymore since all of them were worthless.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 10 points11 points  (1 child)

You won't go anywhere and you know it. You probably said the same thing when Obama was running.

So many people said the same shot when Bush ran and nobody fucking left. The truth is who the president is matters very little in your day to day life.

[–]Boovs4life 9 points10 points  (0 children)

My hope is on Bernie Sanders if someone from the democratic party wins.

[–]Joseph_the_Carpenter 0 points1 point  (3 children)

legal residence of another country

Unless you renounce citizenship and pony up the exit tax the IRS gestapo (or your country's relevant tax entity) will hunt you down to extradite you back to the US to pay your back taxes. (I am trying to find the relevant news articles I read years ago).

That is if they don't just outright kill you to save themselves the hassle.

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[–]RP-on-AF1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She's always one step ahead of us.

[–]greenblueyoyo 14 points14 points [recovered]

Shit like this makes me wonder how the US continues to be the world superpower. Breeding ignorance, apathy and stupidity is a recipe for success it seems.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's a recipe for keeping the mob more concerned about celebrities than about their rights, their livelihood, and their future.

[–]ProspectiveQuant 4 points5 points  (3 children)

It's true...I have no idea how the USA is a superpower still. It makes no sense. The vast majority of people in this country are fucking retarded.

The only thing I can guess is that these elites are just yucking it up to manipulate the retards, and then go get shit done once they get through the circus we put them through to appease all of the retards.

[–]Papahoff25 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I seriously think they've made a whole generation of public school students retarded on purpose. They can't even be held back until high school, if they have missed something from 1-8 they're fucked once they're in high school. So they just get passed along learning nothing.

[–]2Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The inadequately educated are far more likely to become dependents upon the government.

And dependent people have a nice accessible handle for manipulation.

[–]Boovs4life 9 points10 points  (3 children)

The politics subreddit is absolutely flooded with Bernie Sanders posts about how he destroyed the debate. But of course Clinton will win because she's a strong independent woman and people wanna see what it would be like to have a woman as president.

[–]Rathadin 10 points11 points  (1 child)

If they're that fucking stupid, look at Hewlett-Packard and the shit shape it was in when Fiorina left, then just imagine it on a fucking national level...

[–]1OneRedYear 6 points7 points  (0 children)

its easy to see, take the average American single mother and take a long look at her life. It's the same thing except it's in The White House

[–]Pirvan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They will try. They did the same shit to Obama after the first dem debate back in 07. Difference between Bernie and Obama is that Bernie's the real deal. Hope's not a slogan, it's what he actually brings but doesn't even need to mention.

[–]pedre123 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Wow, didn't expect that much of a landslide for Bernie. It was obvious he had by far the most concrete ideas but it was also clear that Hillary was much more polished and politicized. As CNN said after the debate she was "electable" and Bernie was not.

[–]MightyYetGentle 39 points40 points  (3 children)

CNN ceo donated a shit ton of cash to hillary.

[–]throwitofftheboat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure exactly when that was put together but all of that has since been changed to be lean a bit towards Bernie.

Also, check this out:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101124999099655&set=gm.884825821571850&type=3

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[–]justadavid 88 points89 points  (1 child)

During Senate activity quite some time ago, our local Senator blew up in a committee hearing, and said, "You only said that to me because I have a vagina!" A Senator from the Deep South, who was always courteous, replied, "Perhaps if you used it, you'd get more votes in this committee." If I recall right, the woman was Pat Shroeder from Colorado, which would put this in the later 1970's.

[–]Godtiermasturbator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bitter end of the good old days

[–]mojo_magnifico 52 points53 points  (64 children)

has to rely on the fact that she has a vagina because she has absolutely no substance outside of that

You do realize she is a politician...it is her job to pander. And women are 50% of the population.

[–]Endorsed ContributorScholarInRed 33 points34 points  (0 children)

And women are 50% of the voting population.

FTFY. But you're totally correct, and that's why I'm very much unmoved by female politicians. They're pretty much as useless as male politicians these days because the actual power to make decisions is so widely devolved unto an uneducated democracy and corporations. They're nothing more than mascots, now more than ever.

[–]1Kolbath 10 points11 points  (62 children)

has to rely on the fact that she has a vagina because she has absolutely no substance outside of that

You do realize she is a politician...it is her job to pander. And women are 50% of the population.

Yes. The dumbest 50% who vote based on feels rather than facts. That is how liberals get in, and stay in, power to begin with.

[–]2rp_valiant 23 points24 points  (0 children)

that and most guys vote on feels these days too. Betas and losers make up 90% of the male population.

[–]fakenate1 11 points12 points  (10 children)

You don't think that conservatives get in power because of the feels too? I mean, I support traditional marriage and some other right wing buzz words.

[–]1Kolbath 15 points16 points  (9 children)

Conservatives tend to put a great deal more emphasis on facts. For example, you cannot tax a nation into prosperity. Conservatives know this. Conservatives work hard for the things that they own, and the money that they make. They do not appreciate it being taxed away from them to pay for everything that liberals can think up to scratch their feels.

The reason why young, stupid people tend to be liberal, and older people tend to be conservative is simply because when you are young you have rarely worked for or built anything in your life. When you are older and have done so, you don't appreciate it being stolen from you by the government and given to someone else who has not worked at all. This is why Red Pillers also tend to be more conservative. We focus on improving ourselves, we do not need you to steal from us in order to pay the way for someone else who has not worked at all.

[–]fakenate1 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You have a good analysis.

However, my abuela will always vote for the GOP because they want to stop abortion and her Catholic upbringing cannot allow her to vote for baby killers.

I think that this subset of people are more conservative for the reasons that you point out. I, however, think that there are a million abuelas out there that vote conservative because "of the feelz"

[–]1Kolbath 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I should point out that I'm not GOP. I'm conservative. I just find that on most issues, the GOP's stated position is where I am.

Now, we both know that the GOP is hardly conservative. They just claim to be. Which is why they lose my vote more often than not.

You have a good analysis.

So do you. It is perhaps disingenuous to claim all of a subgroup vote or believe a certain way. However, stereotypes exist for a reason; they save time. So, it's faster to say, "AWALT, and they vote liberal because of the feels." It might be mostly true, but it's not completely true. There are a lot of abuelas out there, as you say.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Been saying this for a while now. Feminism, liberalism, socialism.. They're all related.

[–]JollyO 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I'll take Marxism for 500, Alex

[–]zo34 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Marxist = socialist in a hurry with a gun.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It doesn't help that the GOP is a bunch of anti science, anti reality, creationist, evangelical asshats that can't help but bring their religion into it. Religion is divisive, always has been due to it's nature. If you're not with us, you're against us, and if you don't believe exactly how I do you're not with us.

Then there is the way they try to make everyone believe anyone can be a billionaire, all we need to do is give billionaires more money and everyone gets richer... Except in states where they've done exactly that...like Wisconsin.

[–]crestingwave 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, anyone that brings god into it loses my vote. Obviously that leaves me with few real choices.

[–]CleverName4 1 point2 points  (15 children)

How about climate change? Pretty sure the conservatives have staked out a position not supported anywhere near reality.

[–]Hotblack_Desiato_ 3 points3 points [recovered]

Are you implying that the Tea Party movement is anything other than a well-funded tantrum?

And anyway, most people vote based on feels rather than facts; for you to claim that women are the only ones to do so is demonstrably untrue.

[–]1Kolbath 5 points6 points  (9 children)

Actually, the Tea Party is based on the American people getting sick and tired of paying for excessive, wasteful government. Perhaps you should do some research before you speak negatively about something you don't understand.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Also it's about people having a tentative grasp of English and finding new ways to enrich the Koch brothers.

[–]1Kolbath 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Because of course nothing Obama has ever done has ever enriched George Soros, right? Like refusing to build a pipeline that would be cheap and efficient and faster than shipping oil on Soros's trains and paying him $90 million a goddamn month for the privilege?

[–]pedre123 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Question - How will your Presidency be different from Obama's

Other candidates give legitimate answers, Hillary's response - first woman president

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Followed by thunderous applause and the sound byte played by the MSM the entire next day

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points  (5 children)

All I could think about while watching the "debate" last night is how fucking terrifying the left's views on white males are.

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (3 children)

I honestly can't understand how any white male can vote anything other than libertarian (or at the very least, Republican). Dem party has nothing to offer our demo except shame and ridicule, and there are betas lapping it up.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (1 child)

We're full of fucking shame as a race. Always on our knees sucking the cock of whatever special interest group we (a collective "we," not you or I) feel the need to please this week. Always apologizing for the past, whether it's slavery, oppression, or whatever the fuck the left wants to whine about without ever having experienced a single day of that sort of treatment.

Our grandfathers and great grandfathers would be disgusted with the men of today.

[–]xfLyFPS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There once was a school in Frankfurt...

[–]WhatIWannaSay 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The fuck are you talking about? They barely mentioned the topic.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't care HOW devoted a Hillary fan you think exists, NOBODY is thinking favorably of her VAGINA!

[–]pedre123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lol right when I heard that I was hoping TRP would come through with a reaction for me.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Reporter: Hillary, what are you going to do to balance the deficit?

Hilary: "...I'd love to answer that but I'll let my twat do the talking. Twat?

Twat: (Queef)

Hilary: You heard the twat.

[–]Mister_JR 26 points27 points  (13 children)

Its quite disturbing to realize that the voting public is 50/50 split along sexual lines - and thus 'feels' have so much weight over logical thinking.

[–]connor1003 11 points12 points  (2 children)

You can't honestly believe that all women are liberal and all men are conservative.

[–]Mister_JR 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I didn't say that, just that 50% of the potential voters are female and subject to 'feels'.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I wanted to punch the TV every time she mentioned that...hey guys.... I mean... she is a woman!!

with the sycophantic girls screeching in the audience.

[–]moose_war 24 points25 points  (42 children)

I think we all know she is getting the feminist vote no matter what. It's the Obama Syndrome. Even though she probably isn't even the best candidate for women, feminists and similar thinking women will want one of their own in there, they'll want to emasculate Bill as the "first first man", they'll want to play into Hilary revenge fantasy and lust for power. Nevermind that both Clintons have shitty political track records and probably had a guy killed in the 90s! FIRST WOMYN PRESIDENT Y'ALL!

Not a fan of Bernie Sanders as a whole. Don't like the socialism angle. I think his economic policies are fucking stupid. But you know what? He's better than Hilary by a longshot. He has been pretty popular with dems but lately I've noticed Clinton's numbers have soared. I think she will end up being the Dem nominee. And women will vote for her no matter what.

[–]FridayNightBowling 0 points1 point  (36 children)

How the fuck are his policies stupid? Free college for these starving kids with 150k in debt?

[–]moose_war 13 points14 points  (1 child)

How the fuck are his policies stupid? Free college for these starving kids with 150k in debt?

Well first off, this only covers public schools. So any pricey private school is not part of this, and I don't know any state schools that cost quite that much (I'm sure there are a few) and if there are, it's not really mandatory to go to them.

Also, it's paid for with tax payers' money and supposedly by fines on wall street bad men and taxing investments (not so sure those latter parts will actually happen, but I can imagine income taxes being raised). You have to get into a whole debate after that going into two things- 1. Is public education really worth it? I know it was personally a mistake for me to go to a public college and now I got 20k in government debt, which isn't so bad. But I learned nothing and it was my own decision, no one forced me. 2. Should I have to pay for some feminist's Women's Studies degree with my taxes? Should I have to pay for some kid's English degree because he likes old books? I'm not sure why i have to pay for other people's higher education, especially when it might not even provide real value for the person or society.

He also wants to raise the federal min wage to $15 which is stupid. I know, I know, it worked in some town in the Swiss Alps once or something...I don't care. It'll just out-price low skilled workers and small businesses here.

A final thing is, I doubt very much Bernie can do even a fraction of the things he wants to. The president isn't a dictator, so a lot his radical socialist ideas will be blocked outright.

[–]2Overkillengine 10 points11 points  (13 children)

Because "free shit pay no attention to how it gets paid for" level collectivism is stupid; as it is an unsustainable fantasy.

A very nice fantasy, but still a fantasy.

Trying to run your economy on pixie dust and dreams is a great way to ruin it and make your people suffer far more in the end.

[–]crestingwave 8 points9 points  (6 children)

It's better than Bush's model of interventionist foreign policy and quagmire wars that cost trillions of dollars. Funny how conservatives freak about paying for an overall societal good, one that would make our country stronger, but then are all, "we should totally attack Syria and Iran." Who pays for that?

[–]juliusstreicher 4 points5 points  (3 children)

What the fuck does your limp-dick interpretation of Bush's foreign policy have to do with the post that you are ostensibly replying to??? No wonder the world is so fucked up with people making shitheaded posts like this. BTW, is Obama getting some sort of discount on his Afghanistan party??

[–]2Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lel. Like one is actually forced to choose one or the other. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Why are Nordic countries still standing?

[–]xfLyFPS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They wont be in 20 years. But the Scandinavian Caliphate will.

[–]moose_war 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With the new foreign friends flooding in, they won't be for much longer.

[–]Corndog_Enthusiast 3 points4 points  (11 children)

Not related to education, but Bernie Sanders supports the outright banning of all semi-automatic and automatic firearms. Temporarily ignoring the fact that this would require us to only own muzzle-loaders and breech-loading rifles, this would mean that everybody who owns a modern firearm would become a criminal. Sanders complains about overcrowded prisons, but now he wants to completely outlaw modern firearm tech and the people who own them? On another note, this would cause yet another widening of the imbalance between the over-armed police and the average citizen. While I recognize that the need for citizens to physically fight against The Man (for legitimate reasons) is very slim, disarming citizens would increase the damage of such an event if it ever occurred.

Looking at things from a more personal level: In the event of a domestic break-in or physical assault with deadly force, we can only rely on ourselves. The police often (if not always) show up after the crime is done and over with, and the only person looking after you is you. You are alone, and you need to be a man capable of using force if you need to.

Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I especially don't like his views on this topic

[–]crestingwave 6 points7 points  (1 child)

He thinks prisons are overcrowded largely because of the failed War on Drugs. I think he'd rather decriminalize drugs and get people rehab. Far cheaper and more humane. It's really more of a Libertarian position.

[–]Corndog_Enthusiast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I respect that opinion, and I definitely agree with it. I also think, however, that his gun control ideas will overcrowd the prisons again and unnecessarily create a whole new class of criminals.

[–]ilirm 1 point2 points  (1 child)

His policies are stupid because socialist policies generally do not function as intended. They haven't worked in the past, nor are they likely to work in the future, because they fail to account for human greed and avarice.

"Free" college you say? nothing is free, you end up paying for it in one way or another. The whole student loan bubble was created by a socialist policy of offering up cheap loans to public school students. While theoretically a good idea, It resulted in more and more student going to school and flooding the market with college degrees, and also tuition went up every year, because, fuck it, why not, these fuckers can afford it. The end result is what we have now, a bunch of debt and jacking up of credentials required to do basic shit like answer a telephone and type sentences in a coherent manner.

In 1960, you didn't need a degree to draw blood, now phlebotomists are licensed and you have to go to school for something that heroin junkies could do blindfolded.

Bernie Sanders comes to the rescue and his solution is to tack on that debt to the public, because that's where it is going. The US government sells bonds to finance these programs and they owe the bondholders. That money has to be paid.

I for one think it is morally repugnant to just push the cart down the line, and just defer payment to our children and grandchildren, like the Boomers did. This should be the generation where people say enough is enough.

[–]avngr 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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What is this?

[–]onepill_twopill 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Eh, it get's a lot more complicated then that. Copying someone else doesn't guarantee success. Sure, the Japanese could get a massive modernization going by introducing liberal laws, but mexico has done that for a while and is still poor. A swift change from communist to capitalist society has crippled Russia, but done well for Poland.

[–]CriticalThink 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seems like the current DNC platform is rifted between "free stuff!" And "vagina."

[–]Owl_of_Panopticon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I may as well say it as later it will be a thought crime.

The Clinton's are a bunch of shit-heads.

Fuck that dumb hick shit head Bill. "I didn't inhale." Okay, He might be smart enough to de-criminalize possession (and distro). That might actually slow down the quota boys from easy pickings. ("Huh?" you might ask. Well consider if you were a quota boy would you rather raid a hippie home or meth-head den.)

Throw into the mix:

  • the real estate scam (Whitegate)

  • the NAFTA loophole to send manufacturing AND knowledge work overseas. Yay, "Globalization" The 1% can get richer everywhere! Abracadabra Watch our middle class disappear. (Now, we are all car sale and home sales people and burger flippers.)

  • Letting the Chinese "borrow" a Boeing E-3 Sentry (Corporate espionage never been easier, by parking a dish next door to a fake warehouse and another offshore factory open as a flower. Traitor Prez Bill FTW.)

  • Something...something...cigar...intern...cum-stain... (Can't call an escort FFS? Any other woman would have divorced him for being such a shit-head. Nope, Career goals. Beta male on a leash now cuz she wants the c.r.e.a.m.)

  • Billy boy gets paid 1 million USD just to open his dumb trap at a University. (Got to love your student debt now huh?)

Hillary:

  • Benghazi (Meh, just a little co-operative genocide)

  • 2012 - ("Nope, Never 2016 candidate run.")

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/18/hillary-clinton-repeats-no-2016-cant-stand-whinin-about-life-choices/

http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/974317/hillary-clinton-tells-women-quit-whining-and-work-hard

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/10/hillary-papers/?page=all

"The psychologist suggested that Bill’s infidelity had its roots in his childhood." I.can't.even.breathe.

  • 2012 - Also fires pregnant female staffer who won't pull 80hrs. Calls her and all women a "whiners". shit gets out ("Umm. I meant liek, uh, rephrase something about Catcher in the Whiskey.)

  • Le Private E-mail Server - ...(Magnets, How do they?)

Does our current society just boil down to? Lady > Woman > Girl > Flake > Dumb Garden Tool of your choice > B word > C word

Does the baby-boomers and Gen W have zero attention span of WTF is happening? Just how fucking retard is our population in the US?

Hash tag #IHeartTearsOfIgnorance #PeggingUncleSam #WeThePeopleRaped #Get'Muh'lennial #ForceFedPrismaticShit or something.

[–]squirrelcuisine 33 points33 points [recovered]

I'm a liberal. (Stick with me because we agree fundamentally) My parents are well off and well.. so am I (Patriarchy!.. lol)

You are never going to convince me poor people are the problem. My father has destroyed the lives of 10s of thousands of people to get his golden parachute. Bladder cancer is going to get him in the next 2-5 years so all that loot will be mine. (Oh well)

However. Hillary is garbage and it seriously irritates me that there are so many people voting for her without ANY idea of who she is.

She lost me PERMANENTLY when she pulled the shit in the debates insinuating that Obama wasnt born in the US. She is a douchebag. Period end of sentence.

The people voting for her because she has a vagina only? You make me sick. If you want me to vote for a woman tell me you like Elizabeth Warren. At least she is a goddamn liberal. Until them sit down and let the adults talk.

From my perspective we could use a Bernie type that will put these corporations under control. Everything Fox news screams about I believe would be good for this country.

Crony Capitalism is fucked.. Id like some Socialism for a change.

Tax me I dont give a fuck.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

You are never going to convince me poor people are the problem.

If you want to be a liberal then be a liberal but don't fall into the trap of being uncharitable. If you asked some republicans what the problem was, would they reply "The poor!" ? Of course not.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Tax me I dont give a fuck.

You don't give a fuck because you don't have to work a day in your life thanks to your parents.

[–]MortalSisyphus 22 points22 points [recovered]

"You are never going to convince me poor people are the problem."

Straw man. The right thinks government is the problem.

"Bernie will put these corporations under control."

Why do people blame corporations for public officials being corrupt? Do you really blame those offering bribes more than those accepting them? It is politicians we've entrusted with power, and therefore they are responsible for how that power is exercised.

We've created a government with massive control and power over the economy, and therefore the incentive is there for every business to lobby politicians.

The problem isn't the money or the corporations... The problem is the power we've given to public officials. Remove their ability to pick economic winners and losers, and you diminish the incentive to bribe, and you diminish the corruption.

"Crony Capitalism is fucked... I'd like some Socialism for a change."

False dilemma. What I hear is "too much government is fucked, let's try more government."

Again, the problem with our system is not capitalism, but the crony part. And the reason we have crony capitalism is because we've given politicians extreme power over the economy and business.

"Tax me I don't give a fuck."

You must not hear the endless stream of stories about absurd government waste and overspending on bullshit projects and programs. That's enough to even make the untaxed give a fuck.

[–]Limekill 3 points4 points  (3 children)

You don't get it - corporations control politics NOT the other way around ffs.

Do you really think the US Government doesn't bend over when GM/Ford, Bank of America or Silicon valley clicks its fingers??? You don't think the chinese government doesn't protect its corporate interests? And they are communist!

"politicians extreme power over the economy and business."

B.S. - The corporations have the power, not the politicians. They can withhold funding and the candidate loses his seat- "The average price of winning or holding on to a six-year term in the U.S. Senate averaged $10,476,450" So basically you need $10m just to win a seat - where do you think you get that kind of money? It ain't coming from individual voters - it comes from corporate interests.

Do politicians control interest rates (one of the main levers of general economic control)? No. Do they control Quantitative easing? No. Do they control trade issues? No. (Trade bodies: WTO, NAFTA, etc does - which have been created to protect or enhance corporate interests, which are negotiated in the treaties). Do they control taxes corporations pay? No. Because corporations use the best tax lawyers and overseas jurisdictions to get around any sort of "control". What about when a corporation commits a real crime - then they would come under control? No, they pay a fine and don't have to admit responsibility.

Hell, even with the US congress shut down half the US government, the other half was still functioning and making payments to US corporation (esp. to the military-industrial complex - in the name of 'security').

absurd government waste and overspending on bullshit

Like when corporations over bill the Government? And they make no attempt to recover the money? Or don't even bother to see if the US corporations provided the service/infrastructure they said they would (see basically every project in Afghanistan and Iraq).

Now days Government has control over some environmental issues (except can be overruled by trade bodies - US banning tuna, and mexico taking them to WTO - and they usually do long phase in periods to protect the corporations) and how they spend some of their tax money (80% has already been decided - pensions, existing contracts, etc).

So basically sweet fuck all control of corporations. And heaps of control over individuals.

[–]MortalSisyphus 4 points4 points [recovered]

You are simply wrong about this, and are thinking about the problem backwards.

The greatest form of power is the ability to apply force and violence. Government is granted a legal monopoly on the use of force, and therefore always holds the greatest power over any other entity in society.

The government can take money out of Americans' pockets at gunpoint. GM cannot. The government can wage war with foreign nations. Google cannot. The government can forcibly imprison citizens for breaking arbitrary rules. Chevron cannot.

Wal-Mart has never forced me to do anything. They cannot force me to do anything. They can't force me to buy products at gunpoint, can't force me to enter their store at gunpoint, can't force me to do what they say under threat of imprisonment. This applies to all business. The market system works through voluntary exchange. The government works through power and force.

So we've established that it is government which holds the power in society. And then corporations lobby government in order to use that power. But to say corporations have the power over politicians is backwards thinking.

Your argument about political spending is a non-sequitur. First of all, you cannot conflate what is spent for the "price" of winning an election. They spend that much because that is what they have to spend, and they have that much to spend because they hold massive economic power and therefore leverage over big business. It is likewise a mistake to think an election can be "bought." Typically the candidate with the greatest support will raise the most money, giving the illusion that money is what matters. But take a look at spending in the Republican caucus in 2012. Rick Perry spent over $6M and only got 10% of the vote. Rick Santorum spent $6k and got 25% of the vote. If money was all that matters Rick Perry should have crushed the competition, and yet he was second to last.

The reason that corporations over-bill the government is because the government is inefficient and wasteful and can be over-billed. That much should be obvious. But if you want to blame corporations for that again, and not the government, I'm starting to see you are thinking with your ideological biases and not with your reason or logic.

When I was referring to government waste, I was thinking more along these lines: A "Sea Otter Relocation Program" which experts agree has accomplished absolutely nothing and was actually harmful, and yet still lasted 24 years. http://www.sfgate.com/green/article/Sea-otter-relocation-program-a-failure-may-end-2334456.php

And there are hundreds more bullshit programs where that came from. If you don't mind your money being wasted, I can't help you.

[–]WhatIWannaSay 4 points5 points  (7 children)

To be honest... Hillary is a dipshit compared to Sanders, at least on the depth and honesty of her policy.

Warren, however, is objectively more intelligent than Bernie. They are both brilliant however and Warren should hop on the ticket with Bernie if he wins the primary.

[–]The_Man_on_the_Wall 29 points30 points  (28 children)

I'm a liberal too. I sometimes wonder if I can exist in this zeitgeist with all the rabid anti liberal sentiment here.

I agree fundamentally with the non political aspects of this subreddit. But I just cannot support Oligarchy and Corporate subservience.

Edit: Yup. Downvotes confirm. Liberals need not apply ... Edit2: Encouraging to see its not entirely inhospitable. Thanks for the pick me up.

[–]robertpaulsontitties 33 points34 points  (3 children)

I'll upvote you brother! Not because I'm liberal, but because I think that RP should not come bundled with anything that is beyond its scope, which deals with how you relate to the world rather than trying to change it. If there is true RP politics I think it would be that politics doesn't matter.

[–]The_Man_on_the_Wall 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Not because I'm liberal, but because I think that RP should not come bundled with anything that is beyond its scope, which deals with how you relate to the world rather than trying to change it

Some sage like shit there.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Libertarians who got laughed off twitter are now assuming the mantle of RP to sex up their sandcastle views. There will be some appalling gems posted here around election time, provided everyone hasn't eaten their way inside Trump to live inside his toupee.

[–]TheSandbergPrinciple 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Meh, i'm a liberal redpiller (sans feminism because it's a garbage ideology), there's more of us than you'd realize.

[–]1whatsazipper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the problem is the 'mainstream' creates these 'packages' of views that lump together an entire thought-platform that's not really conducive to how intelligent men should converse or discuss ideas. Some things that are 'liberal' or 'conservative' really don't have anything to do with the other ideas in their respective 'package'.

[–]ImBloodyAnnoyed 17 points17 points [recovered]

RP liberals unite! There must be literally handfuls of us here.

[–]The_Man_on_the_Wall 15 points16 points  (4 children)

There are dozens of us. DOZENS!!

[–]3NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Liberal here too. I think the liberal/conservative dichotomy is stupid. If you watch The Newsroom, Will McAvoy is a conservative all of us can get behind. I think we're pro-smart and anti-stupid, pro-evidence and anti-BS. In that sense I think being a liberal and appreciating the RP perspective coexist quite comfortably.

[–]Turn_Coat_2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Upvotes actually. Most of us here were/are liberals who never shifted our political values much in the last 10 years... the rest of the world shifted, and we're no longer liberals, or centrists, by the standards of the rest of the world.

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[–]The_Man_on_the_Wall 17 points18 points  (3 children)

whereas most conservative arguments stick to factual and logical reasoning.

When the Republican Party gets back to ACTUAL Burkean Conservatism then you might have a point. But the current incarnation of "Conservatism" in American politics is not conservative at all. The entire Republican party doctrine is no longer based upon factual or logical reasoning as you put it. The entire Right to Life faction is completely rooted in emotion. Climate change has almost unanimous consensus in the Scientific community yet damn near every Republican denies it. Is that logical reasoning? Is it logical thinking to govern by crisis continually in order to try to extract concessions you'll never be able to obtain?

Conservative Columnist David Brooks says it all It took a thousand small betrayals of conservatism to get to the dysfunction we see all around. When a party actually reverts to the true Burkean principles of Conservatism I might come back into the fold. Or at least I would consider voting for them based upon merit.

TRP is very much about cold hard logic and cold hard facts (just look how much the left hates us and the way they try to demonize us)

Certain factions of the left. Not all, as is witnessed by the literal DOZENS of us liberals here. :P

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[–]2Overkillengine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If the GOP actually got rid of their WBC crowd they'd obliterate the Democrats in the polls.

There is a growing section of the population that has no patience for a morality rants from adulterous cunts wearing a crucifix or some dipshit on the dole telling us we need to give up more of our income that we worked for to fund whatever makes other dipshits that don't work feel good.

We just need an actual representative.

But the mainstream media is trying damn hard to ensure we never get a consolidated representative. Ever notice how hard the repeated pushes are to lock down the internet?

Because it is so much easier right now for a tech savvy person to get their message out, due to the lack of gatekeeper choke points. That is a direct threat to their continued control.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

whereas most conservative arguments stick to factual and logical reasoning.

haha holy fuck i've read some gold in my time.

[–]slimcoat 10 points11 points  (8 children)

Tax me I dont give a fuck.

Giving up your autonomy and individual sovereignty so easily is blue pill as fuck.

[–]jaredschaffer27 6 points7 points  (1 child)

You are never going to convince me poor people are the problem.

Because your dad was a dick to them?

[–]my_redpill_account 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah really... Poor people have this image of down on their luck not their fault bullshit going on. Poor people make choices too, and they're making bad ones.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Ehh, but it's not just you they'd be taxing. In order to fund Sanders' pipe dreams, they'd have to greatly lower what is considered "wealthy." As always, it'll be the (shrinking) middle class that foots the bill.

[–]fakenate1 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Not op, but I am of the opinion that the middle class is already extinct.

I mean, who lives a "middle class" lifestyle where dad is a blue collar trade unionist and mom is a homemaker? Hardly anyone. The way I see it, we have the capital class, who are the wealthy, the overworked white collar working who are fed a delusion that they are the "middle class" and the working poor.

I'm painting with broad strokes, but I don't see any real middle class.

[–]Rathadin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree with this... if the middle class isn't dead, its damn sure on life support. What's worse is that a degree was supposed to be the way out of poverty and into the middle class... now you have to have a fucking master's degree for an increasing number of entry level jobs.

ENTRY FUCKING LEVEL JOBS. I've got a friend who has a Ph.D. in chemistry who's overseeing a chemical plant doing compliance testing or some shit... literally a job that my former landlord did with a chemical engineering degree right out of college in the late 1970s for 35 years at Union Carbide. This is my buddy's first job since he got his doctorate.

And now I hear for a lot of teaching positions of prestige, you have to have a "post-doctoral fellowship". Just skip that bullshit and add another level of credentials... tack on another set of fucking letters, already.

Its getting ridiculous.

[–]latesleeper89 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That is the exact opposite of who Sanders wants to foot the bill. If there's anyone that wants to help the middle class it's Sanders.

[–]2Overkillengine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The problem isn't whom he wants to foot the bill.

The problem is whom WILL end up footing the bill.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can we get a trigger warning for your title OP? Reading the words "Hillary Clinton" and "Vagina" next to each other makes me think of the Snuke in her Snatch.

Have you seen the polls however? Sanders won in a Landslide, and the media outlets still called it as a Clinton victory.

She's going to be feeling the Bern pretty soon.

[–]1rife_omeqa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Women shouldn't be given the privilege to vote, let alone run for public office.

This woman stands a good chance of being elected President by voters who know nothing about politics simply because she has a vagina, just like the morons who will vote for her.

[–]Ali_knows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think she is just smart enough to know how to win. You seem to be implying that she has no substance and is stupid and therefore uses the vagina card to get away from answering tough questions, but I think she is just doing what it takes to win, as does every politician. It's all about winning.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the majority of political posts here are just taking things at surface level. Politicians are 10x more 48 Laws than anybody else on God's green earth. Clinton is 100% a sociopath, and DGAF about what she has to do or say.

Complaining about it runs completely contrary to what this sub is about. We should be analyzing it, and why it works on the general public.

[–]sushisection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By the way, Clinton approved the sale of billions of dollars worth of weapons to the very patriarchal regimes of Saudi Arabia and Qatar. But oh yeah, shes fighting for women right?

[–]recon_johnny 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She is such a strong Dem, the GOP sucks and is such Patriarchy. Vagina, vagina, I'm better than you.

But she knows how to get things done and work with the 'other side'

Hamsters like a motherfucker. Looking through Red glasses changes everything.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It should be against the rules to post that hillary has a vagina. How disgusting.

[–]Magnum007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her policies wont be any different because they will only continue to fuck up America.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Politics are such a fucking joke, I don't even know how you can be bothered to give a fuck about them at all.

[–]blkbullmentor 5 points5 points [recovered]

This. Is. Why. Women. Should. Not.vote.

[–]doveenigma13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think we'll have a second revolution if she's voted into office. Not because of her being voted in, but based on policy.

[–]Bhiim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our system is so fucked. If this is a job interview and we are the employers (which I know we're totally not because these assholes don't work for us) then I want to see a resume.

Where is the concise document detailing each candidate's successful political endeavors? Fuck the useless talking that keeps going on.

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