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Red Pill Example40 things college girls say and what they actually mean (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by chickenparade

tl;dr- Womans' words about sex are not to be taken literally. Pay attention to what they do not what they say.

Body http://totalfratmove.com/40-things-college-girls-say-and-what-they-actually-mean/

Edit: Authors own website- http://thecollegeplayer.net/2015/10/09/40-things-girls-say-and-what-they-actually-mean/

I'm not sure what everybody here thinks of fraternities, but IMAO despite some of their obnoxious antics they have plenty of redeemable qualities. Amongst them is the ideal of making oneself into a successful man who can handle the many obstacles life throws and commanding respect and admiration, essentially being an alpha. Some do a better job than others of course but here's an example of how we can find Red Pill wisdom in pretty ordinary places.

Pretty much any concept that's been discussed here ad nauseum is found in this article. A few excerpts:

Through my years of dealing with women, I have occasionally made the mistake of taking what a girl has said at face value. Through experience, I have learned that there is always more than meets the eye, especially when dealing with college-aged women.

If you haven't already learned.

  • He’s a douchebag: I’m actually very sexually attracted to him.
  • He’s creepy: He’s not attractive.
  • We shouldn’t have sex yet: I’m still getting D from another guy, or I don’t view you as a viable sexual being, so I’m going to push these free meals as far as they’ll go.
  • He’s such a player: I want to fix him and make him mine.

Attraction is not negotiable

  • I feel fat: If you don’t tell me I’m skinny right this instant, I fucking hate you.
  • I’m not hooking up with you: I’m going to hook up with you, and I’m saying this solely to test you.
  • My period is late: I am testing your composure.

Shit tests, shit tests everywhere

  • I’ve only been with X guys: I have been with (2.5)X guys.

Might even want a higher coefficient than that with older girls.

  • I think we should take it slower: You suck at sex, so I want to see if I can turn you into a meal ticket.

AF/BB, that old dead horse.

  • You only care about sex: I fell under your spell and just became aware of it, so please say something to make me not feel like a slut.

  • [From the comments]: “He’s just a friend” We used to engage in coitus but I caught feelings and he didnt. The dick was good though

Remember you have power in any relationship as well. You should not be a slave for your sexual desire it should be used as a tool to help you maximize your happiness in life. Have a mentality of abundance, be persnickety in your choice of partners, women certainly are.

But yeah, you get the idea.

Lessons

Other than basic sidebar reiteration:

  • Contrary to what you may think the whole world isn't entirely against Red Pill theory, many people are far more alpha then even they may realize.

  • Red Pill wisdom can be found in some atypical places. I don't see fraternities mentioned much on here other than lamenting over false rape accusations against them like the Rolling Stone article on the UVA frat, so I'd figured I'd give an example of some positive wisdom they can espouse.


[–][deleted] 104 points105 points  (21 children)

I feel fat: If you don’t tell me I’m skinny right this instant, I fucking hate you.

Wrong. This means that she thinks you might be a little bitch who gives away validation for free. Don't call her fat but don't give in either.

[–][deleted] 171 points172 points  (10 children)

If its a new girl you are working on, "I haven't seen you naked so I have no idea what you really look like."

[–]fittitthroway 82 points83 points  (7 children)

Fuck why cant I think of good shit like this on the spot

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (3 children)

It comes with time and experience. Keep putting yourself in situations where you need to be quick with the wit and it'll improve.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 50 points51 points  (1 child)

It comes from the aftermath when you conduct a mental after action review and say "shit! I could have said 'x'. That would have been perfect" then you wait for the same scenario to play out in the future and drop the line.

[–]Zagiggity 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Practice makes perfect. It helps to have a smartass attitude in general.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah thats one of my personal gems I keep in my back pocket. Not only does it put her in "qualify" mode, but it also brings up presumed sex, AND calls to mind all the little tricks girls use to make themselves look better.

[–]Freddy_Fedora 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's like a way of thinking until you can't fucking say things that aren't like this. Which pisses a lot of people off.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Goddamn I had this one thrown at me last week. I said "Come workout with me then."

[–]evileddy 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I feel fat: If you don’t tell me I’m skinny right this instant, I fucking hate you.

"Take your clothes off so I can give you an honest opinion"

[–]no_face 17 points18 points  (1 child)

"Its not the dress that makes you look fat, its the fat that makes you look fat"

-- Al Bundy

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

"Would you be willing to say that to my face?"

"Well I'd say it to your ass but my car only has half a tank of gas."

Fat activist and Al Bundy.

[–]Freddy_Fedora 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Depends if it's a comfort test or a shit test. Calling a girl fat on a comfort test is a sure way to get a headache.

Only applicable to women you've been dating for 12+ months tho.

If my gf says she feels fat I usually grab her ass and say it feels good to me.

[–]Adolf_ghandi 1 point2 points  (3 children)

So I can't make a joke like: "you are so fat I am literally orbiting around you due to your gravity field"? Delivered with a shit eating smile.

[–]HappyScribe 45 points46 points  (2 children)

Or, "Fat? Let me take a step back so I can see all of you..."

[–]Boovs4life 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What does one respond when she says I'm fat?

[–]thinktankman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At least your eyes still work. (Cheeky grin)

[–]Endorsed ContributorScholarInRed 312 points313 points  (41 children)

You seem to think fraternities aren't popular around here. This sub is basically a fraternity. We embody pretty much all of the values of a fraternity - except it's a bit of a shitty one, because it only happens through the Internet.

The world needs more fraternities, because it's turning into one massive sorority. Solid post, by the way.

[–]Ice_Hube 136 points137 points  (4 children)

"The world needs more fraternities, because it's turning into one massive sorority."

Damn dude, way to hit it on the head. That's a great statement.

[–]Endorsed ContributorScholarInRed 16 points17 points  (2 children)

This, coupled with part of the post I just finished and published, put me onto my next post about fraternity in general.

Man is a creed. It is the creed that unites us all, across nations, borders, ethnicities. The global 'sisterhood' has successfully divided us, to make us easier to conquer.

[–]Ice_Hube 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I shared that line with my fraternity brothers and will bring up those aspects you mentioned here in this post at our meeting. Great stuff here. It really underscores the value of brotherhood.

[–]J_Dizzle1000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went to visit my chapter since I've been gone for almost 2 years. Got to meet the new guys and gave a talk on why the man space is important at left them with as much RP wisdom as possible. I'd like to see the new guys grow into well rounded, Top 10% men and carry on the chapter to new heights.

[–]SDSAM21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Ann Coulter said it.

[–]Rathadin 11 points12 points  (4 children)

There used to be actual "gentleman's clubs" (in a few places, there still are) where men could go to be men... to smoke, to drink, to tell jokes, to talk about politics and philosophy and life.

Naturally women have done their best to invade all of those spaces and claim them as their own.

[–]Kalidane 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Outside of London, I'm not sure how much of this still exists

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is one at my old uni. They even make a point to use the acronym "GC", since GC where I live also means "Good cunt", which is a man's way of telling another man he's a solid respectable guy. I regret not joining now, lads.

[–]IDontLikeUsernamez 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Live near one of the biggest party schools in the country, the frats are all being hammered by the university for any little violation they can find while the sororities have huge events and get away with everything. The frats are quickly dying out while the sororities get 60 person pledge classes. It's crazy, there's gonna be no fraternities left pretty soon and it's a damn shame

[–]_raisin 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yeah I'm at a pretty big university (30,000+) and its weird how bluepill the male professors and administration are. Its like they are feminist, the way they favor women.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If any of them are married it will be to other landwhale professors.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Many new administrators are trying to demolish houses as well. I heard ASU got hit pretty hard. As did texas tech. For my chapter we have gone the way of the mafia. Everything is kept under wraps now. Parties are only at hotels and bus bars. House parties are banned.

[–]Zagiggity 13 points14 points  (20 children)

I think some (most?) of the guys here haven't associated with a Fraternity and might have a negative preset notion about them. Knowing what I know now, there's usually at least 1-2 natural alphas in each group and can be a great person to learn (behavioral) habits from.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 7 points8 points  (18 children)

I have to admit that I have a negative visceral reaction to the idea of frats, but I'm fully aware that it's entirely baseless, and rooted in my own sense of rebellious "counter-culture" teenage years. This post and the comments have really forced me to do a deeper investigation on my thoughts about it.

[–]PedroIsWatching 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same here. Culturally, frats are portrayed as places where uncultured unintelligent dickbags congregate rather than a place where the future leaders and cultural innovators grow, which is what they are in reality.

[–]Zagiggity 4 points5 points  (4 children)

When a fraternity really changes your life is when you realize you're surrounded by like-minded individuals who want the same things you want. That connection didn't happen for me in High School. I never fully "connected" with any social group then but anything can happen in college.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Sometimes I kind of feel like I missed out on all that. I went to community college for a few years before getting a job in IT. Think 33 is too old to experience the greek life?

[–]arrayay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven't you seen Old School? It's practically a documentary

[–]Zagiggity 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Probably BUT that's relative to your patience, sense of humor, and energy levels. Definitely hang out with some Greek alums if you know any.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no patience, a fun/dark/twisted sense of humor, and can have very high energy levels.

[–]ILoveSunflowers 1 point2 points  (11 children)

me too, but I'm actually put off by their brother hood talk, because I'm a veteran, it just sounds like kids trying to play house, but for civilians who'll never experience true adversity with a group of like minded men, I see its utility.

edit:added words

[–]RPSigmaStigma 1 point2 points  (6 children)

What is it with military people who think they're so special that no one could ever compare to their experiences. You all at like everyone else's experiences are cheap and trivial compared to yours. It's kind of solipsistic honestly...

[–]Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Was that a serious comment? Let me know when you've been to war. Let me know when you've been to wars. When you've pushed your body to the limit working 23 days straight, 14 hour work days, get back to me.

You must be young, but that doesn't excuse ignorance.

[–]RPSigmaStigma -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

Damn straight it was a serious comment. You just proved my point. You're incapable of imagining a worse scenario for someone than what you went through. Have you ever had a young son die? Withering away from an incurable disease? Or have a parent die in front of you in a horrific car accident? Do none of these things even come close to poor little you who "went to war"?

[–]CoriolanusRevisited 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Have you ever had a young son die? Withering away from an incurable disease? Or have a parent die in front of you in a horrific car accident?

Are you implying the average fraternity brother has had those things happen to him...?

[–]RPSigmaStigma -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, I'm implying that the average person has had all kinds of things happen to them, and you jarheads strut around with the biggest victim complex I've seen in any group of men except Nice Guys. Aww, so hard, working outside in the heat for, like a really long time and stuff.

[–]ILoveSunflowers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

as far as contributing to camaraderie is concerned, no those things can't compare to being in war. lol No one said civilians can't experience pains and hardships, but collectively experiencing war is a bonding experience unlike any other, if you don't know that you don't know anything.

edit: remember that mini-series Band of Brothers on HBO? There's a reason it wasn't about s college fraternity.

[–]Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't participate in the oppression Olympics.

Stay special snowflake, I am sure your life is just as terrible as you think it is. Let me know when you choose to be a man and seek out adversity, instead of adversity randomly finding you.

[–]klk8251 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

but for civilians who'll never experience true adversity

What on earth are you driveling on about?

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[–]ILoveSunflowers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I meant collectively, the camaraderie from the military is close to impossible to surpass. Apologies for confusing you.

[–]crestingwave 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At this point any time a group of men get together it's seen as almost criminal. Like it's a meeting to strategize the oppression of women.

[–]Freddy_Fedora 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wish I could agree but it's starting to feel like intellectualism is not seen as a masculine trait, what with the corruption of academia. Yet men are the only true intellectuals!

Fraternities these days are only about fucking and drinking? A lot of guys want more then that. Community, Honour, Pride and yes Intellectualism. Personally I can't stand being around dudebros.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You can't stand dudebros

Haha you're on trp

[–][deleted] 209 points210 points  (19 children)

Idk about the rest of the list, but the douchebag point is spot on.

When my girl started complaining about some "douchebag" from work who thinks he's the shit, i did not laugh it off or console her. My ears perked up and i responded as little as i could while i internally made plans to up my game.

After quite a few days of bitching about this dude, i looked up from my book and hit her calmly with: "Hey you know for as much as you say you dislike this guy, you sure spend a lot of time thinking about him." Then kept reading.

Plausable deniability. I simply pointed out that i'm onto her, but even if this guy really is just an ass it still means she shouldn't waste time and energy over him anyway.

This remark combined with me hitting the gym harder, fucking her to oblivion and holding my frame better and i didn't hear about that dude for the rest of the summer she worked there. Funny thinking back, i ended up acting a bit like this guy she "hated" so much.

I have TRP to thank for this. I thought i was good, but i was a serious beta bitch in subtle ways i had never realized. That summer may very well could of been the last for us. Thanks for helpin me turn it around!

[–]2ndLion 102 points103 points  (5 children)

Good fucking job. Exactly what a true alpha should do. Pay attention, rationalize the problem, fix it.

[–]McLarenX 22 points23 points  (3 children)

That third sentence belongs on a motivational poster. Instead of putting your head in the clouds and hoping things get better it's more effective to develop problem solving skills.

[–]cdtCPTret 90 points91 points  (2 children)

[–]2ndLion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahaha yeah context is kinda important

[–]AdorableAnt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

rationalize the problem

I guess you meant "realize" or "identify". In this context, "rationalize" means "explain away/justify/explain/hamster away".

[–]MeltzerDriver 50 points51 points  (6 children)

When my girl started complaining about some "douchebag" from work who thinks he's the shit, i did not laugh it off or console her. My ears perked up and i responded as little as i could while i internally made plans to up my game.

As Patrice O'Neal would say, anger is the same thing as passion (or will lead into passion). The last thing you want is a girl to be indifferent towards you.

''If my girl comes home and talks about a guy who really pissed her off today, I'll walk away and let him have her. Because at that point he does have her'' I'm basically paraphrasing, but that's what he said.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (5 children)

As always Patrice has it figured out. I was trying to put my finger on why this post didn't feel like a victory to me at all, and that's it right there.

All his girl had to do was drop a few select words and her guy springs into action, putting forth all this extra effort to keep her. So tell me, who's in control here? Who's reacting to who?

Its a lofty goal, but the real "alpha" response to this scenario is to already have enough actually important stuff going on in your life to where losing a girlfriend is the least of your concerns. To be able to (at least figuratively) say, "go ahead and fuck your jerk coworker, bitch. I'm building an empire over here. You're a petty diversion."

To me, /u/Redrocketz 's post is an example of executing a bluepill mindset in a redpill fashion.

[–]exotictantra 9 points10 points  (0 children)

only problem is that he had slacked off in building his empire and knew he had to get back to it...

so if he ignored the comment and didn't change, he was going to get dumped...

once he got back to it, he went back to being alpha.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That's true, but it was all shit I should've been doin anyway. I was slacking.

[–]Senior ContributorRedPope 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No one is perfect. We all slack. We all get comfortable. Laziness is every man's top vice.

Every stumble and failure is life giving us a kick in the ass, so we get it back in gear.

[–]ILoveSunflowers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what you're supposed to do when she starts talking about some other guy is to withdraw commitment

[–]elevul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, laughing it off and continue doing your own shit would have been the real alpha response there.

[–]ZioFascist 13 points14 points  (3 children)

wonder if she was taking it from him too

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (2 children)

Meh, saw no other red flags or behavior changes. Would of been impressive to pull off logistically too.

I also don't just commit to any bitch, I'm picky. If I thought she was the kind of girl who'd suck a dick during her 30min break just because, I wouldn't be with her in the first place. Even before RP I had balls, now they're just spilling out of my shorts and it's awesome.

[–]ZioFascist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

word. yeah all you can do is just assume and hope for the best

[–]Apocapoca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

now they're just spilling out of my shorts and it's awesome.

My god. I would someday love to know what that feels like. I have much to learn.

[–]thinktankman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patrice O'Neal on the black Phillip show said that if his girl gets pissed off at another dude then she might as well leave him because hate is another form of passion

[–]1Kolbath 37 points38 points  (2 children)

Many years ago, which probably means around 15 or 20, I remember watching a late night talk show that had a female sex therapist on it. I will never forget hearing her clearly articulate the following phrase: when a woman says no, what she is really saying is show me how much you want me.

I remember thinking, repeatedly since then, how much our fake rape culture has advanced. As men, we are now no longer safe from a woman who says such things. This is one of the reasons I video record every single sexual encounter I have. I make the girl state unequivocally that she knows what is about to happen to her and that if she says no, she will be immediately asked to leave. To date, I have never once had a woman walk out of a sexual encounter.

I've had more resistance to the idea of being video recorded than to the idea of being ordered to openly admit that she's there from choice.

Yesterday, someone posted about a college girl trying to get four young men arrested merely because she willingly participated in a gang bang and her current boyfriend thought she was a slut. So, by claiming rape four months later, she protected her reputation at the expense of the careers and lives and reputations of those men. Had they videotaped her smiling enjoyment, the matter would have ended before the local police told her to go away.

[–]MuleJuiceMcQuaid 20 points21 points  (1 child)

That's the exact story Patrice O'Neal had, except it was in high school. Him and some buddies ran a train on a white girl, and once other people found out she cried rape. Patrice made it through six months of juvie alright, but that experience completely destroyed his friend's life.

In a way, it's actually the obvious outcome for a woman put in that position. What is the the alternative, take responsibility for her actions and face the social fallout? Naw, just push some disposable males under the rape bus.

Protect yourself by never bragging about banging a girl, and she won't need to destroy your life to save face.

[–]RedSugarPill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Protect yourself by never bragging about banging a girl, and she won't need to destroy your life to save face.

That is an excellent quote, and needs to be repeated.

Men have more control than what's on the surface. I see a lot of posts (and news stories) where there were several exits that the man could have pursued--in order to not get his ass in a sling. Be thoughtful in your actions (e.g., don't brag about that slut you banged), and your chances of survival rapidly approach unity. As far as I can tell, only assholes get themselves into trouble--and I should know--I'm an asshole and I get into trouble all the time. But nice guys can get away with anything (as long as they are attractive).

[–]systemshock869 39 points39 points [recovered]

I’m not hooking up with you: I’m going to hook up with you, and I’m saying this solely to test you.

The duality of womanspeak is that elephant in the room when politicizing rape, abortion, or any of these other big issues. It's basically a Progressive crime to call anyone on their personal bullshit without 100%, irrefutable peer-reviewed proof of the contrary. Particularly for the whole regret=rape movement, I can't fathom how the males involved are able to delude themselves so effectively. Womanspeak and it's contrary nature to reality isn't just some neckbeard theory created by pick up artists, it's a concept that has been known since the beginning of fucking literature and is so pervasive that it's even present in BP media from books to movies and sitcoms. When a concept is readily apparent even in the dumbed-down opiate of the masses that pushes a false agenda, it becomes crystal clear to me that there is some serious truth below the surface.

Not to mention the fact that I have been around women before and have been dealing with this bullshit my entire life. Do these idiots have any female contact? Are they so emasculated that they are pretty much "one of the girls" and sit around drinking cosmos and gossiping? Are they blind/retarded? Or are they consciously supporting an insane agenda for some other nefarious purpose?

I was called out recently on a gaming sub for being a Red Pill "rape sympathizer." You can find it not too far back in my history if you care to look (ctrl+F worldofwarships to find the dialogue) - my first response to him was something along the lines of "hey my first callout, I'm honored." Linking it actually doesn't work very well - for some reason the thread doesn't show in it's entirety unless you are on the page and viewing the full context. I tried archiving it - still didn't capture the full conversation.

Anyways, I shouldn't have engaged with him but we went back and forth for a while. He quoted some posts from TRP where a guy was talking about getting a girl drunker than himself to loosen her up. I repeatedly stated that while I don't agree with the post or that behavior, it was manipulation and in no way rape.

I also stated the point that if you honestly think a woman can't be responsible for anything she does after three drinks, you must think they are completely useless and are in fact yourself, a sexist. This guy continually repeated nonsense back to me, refused to acknowledge any of my points, and attacked me with logical fallacies and name calling to the point that I'm not sure he wasn't a troll.

Trolling seems to almost be their default line of attack when they can't keep up with the logic, so watch out for that. Don't be me - don't even talk to these fuckwits.

[–]slay_it_forward 28 points29 points  (13 children)

The women dual-speak is why the yes means yes and whatever other consent laws make no sense. Anyone that has tried to bang a women knows what she says isn't to be taken literally (depending on body language / tone of course).

Quick anecdote - took a girl out for drinks one night and at the end went in for the kiss. She gave me the head turn. I tried again maybe ten minutes later. Same result. Rejected twice. I came right out and asked later on via text why she wouldn't kiss me because we had a good time and it seemed like she was in to me. She said, "you need to try harder". I got her out again and we ended up fucking multiple times.

Take a girls responses at face value and you'll never get laid.

[–]systemshock869 17 points17 points [recovered]

The women dual-speak is why the yes means yes and whatever other consent laws make no sense.

I am thoroughly convinced that it is a power-play to enable females, whether 99% of the retards who push it realize this or not. Women absolutely realize their power over men; their weakness is their strength. The self-aware will come right out and say it - my ex did, and ultimately left me because she knew I wouldn't cave to the power she is used to wielding.

I came right out and asked later on via text why she wouldn't kiss me because we had a good time and it seemed like she was in to me. She said, "you need to try harder".

Take a girls responses at face value and you'll never get laid.

Nope. Even a thousand real-world examples won't convince these people of anything.

[–]MadChestHairYuKnight -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I literally went back, downvoted his every post and upvoted yours. What a motherfucking retard.

[–]CornyHoosier 11 points12 points  (3 children)

You're not looking at the issue through Blue Pill glasses. You and I both know this to be a fact:

Anyone that has tried to bang a women knows what she says isn't to be taken literally (depending on body language / tone of course).

I've had many women say no or pull away when they absolutely did not mean it. Like you, I've even had women flat tell me that their no didn't really mean no. That said, I've also had women who say no and I can tell from their tone and body language that they actually mean it ... and I can fully respect that with no problem. Like every other civilized person on Earth I do NOT want to see a man or a woman physically or mentally abused.

However, these BP men don't have the level of interaction with women that we do. They expect a woman to be some sort of infallible person. Women aren't gods, they can make mistake and lie just as well as a man. So what's sad for these BP guys is that they take no literally and don't understand that sometimes what women (people) say is not how people always feel.

[–]slay_it_forward 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Ya, I was just on a world sex tour for the past year. I learned a lot about women. If I followed the yes-means-yes mantra I doubt I'd have got laid at all. Girls will always throw up roadblocks. It's instinctual.

It's like women trying to get at a man's resources. He'll throw up some roadblocks himself, unless he's an idiot.

[–]wapiwasko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

part of it comes down to ASD (Anti slut defense, for the fuckers who don't read the glossary) because they don't want to come off like they want it, or that they are giving it away easy.

when they say

  • "hey not right now"
  • "we aren't having sex tonight I'm tired"
  • "no"
  • " I like it but not right now"
  • "later"

or anything like that they are really saying

"hey I really want to get fucked hard but I don't want to come off as a slut and give it away so easily so I'm going to say no and make you work for it, cause you're the guy that's what you're supposed to do anyway right?"

of course not in every situation, you do have to read the body language and attitude, don't go out raping people.

I had one girl say she didn't want it and literally was upset with me later cause I didn't do anything, oh and btw AWALT.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't get it wouldn't trying harder make you look like a desperate beta

[–]mystikcal1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Persistence, not desperation. There's a difference in mindset

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Do these idiots have any female contact?

Oh yes. From their mother and their wives. They are being thought-controlled and cannot think for themselves and would just die without female approval. Behold: the marvelous White Knight.

Seriously, fuck the white knights.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I dont think I was ever a white knight but you can't blame betas for a feminist society. They're brought up that way and unless they have a strong male role model or get hurt and happen to come across this forum or something similar, how will they ever know any better? It's not really their fault.

[–]systemshock869 4 points4 points [recovered]

When they actively attack you with name calling and other bullshit, throwing logic out the window and refusing to entertain a civilized discussion, I can safely say that they are part of the problem and need to go die.

[–]MuleJuiceMcQuaid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To paraphrase what Morpheous said in the Matrix, anyone still plugged into the system is a potential agent.

Any guy that hasn't accepted TRP is a potential white knight. It's not their fault for being plugged in when they can't even see the cord, but once their agent takes over they are still your enemy.

[–]MadChestHairYuKnight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have been brought up by my mother, my aunt and my sister (who also played a big part as she's 13 years older than I am) - and that's so true. My love for them is still unparalleled to anything else - not now, not for all women.

I used to treat women with so much respect that now looking back I cringe.

Without this subreddit I don't know what my life would be like. Fuck my father, seriously, never taught me one thing about women.

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[–]OnlyFactsMatter2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's happened to me. We were debating Hillary Clinton and they brought up Red Pill.

And then I said "Doesn't Hillary kind of prove the Red Pill? After all she stayed with Bill Clinton even though he was a philanderer and accused rapist."

No response.

[–]Freiling 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Been there. Tried the nice route, padding the comment with warnings about the incorrect assumptions they're about to make when they read what's to come. No use, they will set no limits on their creativity to make demonizing assumptions about you.

Conversation seems impossible... what's next?

[–]NecroticFury -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Converse in person, at least you'll be able to physically yell the idiot down to their level. Instead reddit lets all of the idiots conglomerate.

[–]Chrience 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I was called out recently on a gaming sub for being a Red Pill "rape sympathizer."

You're arguments to that guy were spot on, but i'd say it was a futile effort. Guys like that are usually so invested in the blue pill thinking there's nothing you can possibly say to talk sense into him.

I think you should also just use an alt account, just for TRP, because in other subs there's always the feminist mangina who will look through your post history and try to call you out as a 'Red Piller' to everyone. Subs like offmychest have already started banning accounts who their bot finds have just commented in TRP.

[–]systemshock869 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, it might be a good idea but I don't really care that much. I don't participate in any of the subs that I hear ban people. Also he definitely made a fool out of himself and the votes seemed to support me, so maybe that was a good example for people to see.

[–]Freddy_Fedora 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's admitted that she's thought about hooking up with you and that's all you really need to know.

Like when a bitch says "I never have sex on the first date" I feel like "then why are you setting up the goal posts?"

[–]dogs-not-cats 21 points22 points  (4 children)

-I’ve only been with X guys: I have been with (2.5)X guys. --Might even want a higher exponent then that with older girls.

Coefficient, not exponent. Otherwise, very true!

[–]slay_it_forward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably should be exponential.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (8 children)

"You should not be a slave for your sexual desire it should be used as a tool to help you maximize your happiness in life."

Amen. Can I get an Amen brothers...My last Tinder girl was textbook "housewive" material, she carefully played the "strong woman in a tough man's world" role. Her acting was perfect. She was blessed with a big rack and a very pretty face. Nice child bearing hips you get the idea. I thought I found a NAWALT and was curious to see how she would act with my friend around. She flirted with my friend in front of me. At one point saying he could share her drink of whiskey. Now. I have eyes. I have a gut feeling. And they don't lie. Next day when I mentioned to my buddy how flirty she was he agreed 100%.

She told she had a surprise for me this Saturday but I'm not interested in her anymore. She's clearly using my for BB and I can see her come a mile away. The icing on the cake is that she sucks in bed. Two strikes yourrrrr OUUUTTT!!!!

[–]Reworking 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You will NEVER find a "textbook housewife" on Tinder. Probably the absolute worst place to look for a woman for anything other than casual sex.

[–]doctorlw 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I don't get it... you already had sex with her. A lot of girls flirt with the friends of a guy they like. The key is to just act like you don't care (and if you are already sleeping with her already you pretty much are locked in), that's what you did so I don't see a problem.

I've had girls go from flirting to as far as threatening to, then actually going ahead and sleeping with my guy friends in an attempt to secure a monogamous relationship from me. Somehow in their brains this was the best way of going about it. Obviously, in a more extreme instance a hard next is warranted. But here? Innocent flirting from a girl it sounds like you liked and had already had sex with? That's a bit of an over-reaction in my opinion.

[–]Freiling 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You're gonna hate me for saying this, but that's not a normal threat to make. I wouldn't be surprised if she had already done it, and was testing your reaction.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sex was really bad with her but I was willing to train her. Her lost of respect for me in front of my friend was a big strike. If she was good in bed I would have let it slide for sure but since she sucked I had to drop her.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That sounds like more than 2 strikes. Good luck.

[–]Adolf_ghandi 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I disagree on one point.

Do you have a condom? = take me NAAAOOOOWWWW!!!!!

[–]1RPAlternate42 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yes, but this one is hard to open... Can you help?

[–]Adolf_ghandi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't get what you want from me

[–]and_eazy -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Yeah I don't get this..."I hate fun"?? WTF?

[–]mystikcal1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's taking a dig against condoms

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"I’m a psychology major: If I lit $50,000 on fire, the heat it generated would be worth more than this degree. Also, I will try to fuck with your head."

IF? Oh, sweetie, that torch is lit and lit good.

Anyway, if you want to see a hamster with olympic level athleticism, hang out (read: three hole) a gal that just finished one of these degrees. It's a true marvel to behold.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fraternity's aren't popular here because a lot of guys here are AFC's or were so in college while every Chad was either in a frat or on the football team.

on trp you get guys calling frat guys immature douche bags lol ok bruhhhhhhh I'm going to rail another hot drunk freshman at my party while you jerk off in the dorms, fucking sick.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

the day I realized a girl calling me an asshole then playfully slapping me on the chest, shoulder, arm while smiling was a good thing = the day the # of women I've slept with started to increase

Being in a fraternity taught me so much about the bullshit that comes out of girls' mouths, how to hold frame, and how important where you were on the social ladder was.

[–]puah8r 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Here's one: I've been single for the past two years.

Translation: I've been banging several guys on and off. I have beta orbiters I keep on a leash by letting them buy me lunch and dinner and I have 1000 Facebook and Instagram followers liking everything I post.

[–]bertmaklinFBI 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Actions>Words.

Saved you time.

[–]Redasshole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You only care about sex: I fell under your spell and just became aware of it, so please say something to make me not feel like a slut.

also: I gavr you sex because you have a good potential beta buck but i am disgusted by you so i am withdrawing sex. also it will make it easier for me to manipulate you

[–]MeltzerDriver 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The most important thing I've learned from here is female powertalk. Or in other words, female manipulative language. Never take what they say at face value, there's always another meaning. They just want to be able to spare their ego, have plausible deniability, use you to benefit them and shit test you.

If a beta orbiter asks a girl he's orbiting for advice on how to be more attractive to women, she'll tell him whatever she needs to keep him as her beta orbiter, while fucking a guy who does the exact opposite of what she says. The advice she gives him will be politically correct, and he can't put the blame on her/she can say she tried when the advice ends up not working.

This may sound weird to somebody who just unplugged, because as men we mostly say what we actually mean (we're straight talkers by nature), so a lot of you place your own values/the way you act on to them. Don't do that, they aren't us and never will be. Every now and then I meet a girl who is a straight-talker..but they're rare.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Straight-talking is for horizontal communication, or when the situation means you have to relate in that manner. BB men are regarded by the vast majority of women as lower as per that okcupid graph (80% are <5/10).

[–]thecollegeplayer.netBostonsboy306 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Hey, my partner Soze and I wrote this!

I only contribute to TFM every so often. You can check out more of my stuff on my web site. I'm actually Hans Dix (RPS confirmed)

[–]chickenparade[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well done article mate, I figured I might find you around here.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love how most of the content here revolves around college aged women.

Most of these are true for women in general.

[–]nmioni 2 points3 points  (2 children)

What are some good ways to respond to these statements/questions?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if she calls you an asshole/douchebag in a teasing sort of way, especially if she uses it as an excuse to touch you, then I keep teasing her and increase the physical contact

[–]Zagiggity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree and Amplify (A&A) is one.

You're such an asshole!

You: God I knowww. Blah blah blah next subject.

[–]craneat 2 points2 points [recovered]

College girls are all about hypergamy. You ever notice that all the sexy girls only hang out with the frat guys?

It's because A) They probably have money, since they're paying for a frat. B) They have some balls since they went through pledging. C) They probably used to be athletes or still hit the gym regularly. D) They're those "douchebags" referred to above. And E) They probably dress well, or at least how college girls picture somebody dressing well (all college girls dress like han solo, so it's not tough. Basically it's whatever they think the popular look is).

[–]chickenparade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's plenty of sexy Geed women as well but all good points.

[–]blue_27 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There are 40 different things that girls say? Seriously?

[–]ky_windage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know right? Expensive purses and engagement rings were never mentioned once.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"We shouldn't have sex yet" is really all dependent on the girls history.. I could see a nerdy type of girl who's not very experienced maybe holding off on sex until getting to know someone a little bit better. But for most hot / party types who are down for hook ups it seems relevant that they probably don't find you to be a hot dude if they're not down.

[–]whats_the_deal22 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I have a question about a college girl I picked up last weekend. Started texting her yesterday to try to set up a good time to hang out. I basically got a "we'll see ;)" I replied "oh we're gonna play hard to get now are we?" She immediately goes defensive "uhh not really but I wouldnt have been so easy If i wasnt drunk" I told her that I wasn't asking her out because I thought she was easy and I actually had a better time with her the next morning when she wasn't drunk.

Given your college girl translation skills how would you assess this situation?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

You triggered ASD and get a C+ for the recovery. You're back to square 1, do not pass Go, do not get to hit it this time. She'll likely give you another swing if you play your cards right in a week's time.

[–]fortifiedoranges 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Then again, he's been there and done that. He should go back out and meet other women instead because you know her ass will be at the same spot. He could fall back on that if he doesn't pick one up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd look at it like - carry on with life, and in a week or so if it goes naturally then let it.

[–]whats_the_deal22 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ok room for improvement then. Any suggestions in this case? FWIW she replied positively. I think you're right though she'll definitely try to make me work for it now.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats just it. Don't. Instead flirt with strangers for a week. When you see her again, ask if she wants to hang out yet.

This is PUA though, and won't save you if you don't get why and don't internalize the difference.

It's not about her, it's about you. To you, she's just a girl who's being more difficult than she's worth for your efforts. Look elsewhere, and if she opens up then she does.

[–]Reworking 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Next time you get a bullshit answer like the first one, don't reply and find a new girl. Don't waste your time with girls who play games.

Chances are she'll turn around during that time anyway.

[–]Atheisticles 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What does it mean when she says "I don't sleep around".

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She means, "I don't sleep around...with guys like you."

Would she make that statement to a Chad?

[–]2awalt_cupcake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I don't want people to think I'm a slut"

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[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correction: "He's a douchebag": "I've already had sex with him."

[–]4benny2lava0 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I leave for a festival tomorrow... needed this as I will be out hunting.

Read the side bar powertalk post if you don't understand

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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Hello there, and welcome to TRP, the subreddit aimed at disseminating some basic social skills to men who've recently recognized that not having them can suck.

Due to the nature of the subreddit, we have a wide variety of contributors and cannot guarantee that what is said will align with your person feelings. If that still offends you, please feel free to visit another subreddit.

Thank you and have a nice day.

[–]PeanutFlavor 1 point2 points  (2 children)

And yet, unlike feminism, we all have come to a consensus on most things. Tiny differences in execution are plentiful of course--we are individuals after all--but we all understand the same universal truisms. The beauty of TRP...aaaah.

[–]Clockshade -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Adapt and conquer. Diversification of the legislation to avoid the metaphorical castration to the masculine nation.

[–]liquorandkarate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Chill man,just because girls don't let you finger them at festivals it doesn't mean that they won't let someone else .

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol @ 34. I had an ex say that same thing almost verbatim. The sex tapes I kept proves that's a lie.

[–]chuckdavid -1 points0 points  (0 children)

what if girls tell me that I am a douchebag. does that count as she is very sexually attracted to me ?

[–]Veles11 -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

I’m not hooking up with you

So what do I say in this situation? Especially after I've made it clear that I'm trying to fuck

[–]acartoontiger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Keep telling yourself that"

[–]Dustin_Bromain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I'm not hooking up with you" or "We're not having sex tonight" basically means: "We're about to have sex, and this is my last shit-test to see if you're the alpha that I think you are."

It's a shit-test, plain and simple. My go-to response is: "Ok. That's fine." as i'm leading her upstairs to her room. But there's a million ways you can respond to it. Don't forget: any response you give her must be delivered with confidence.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I disagree with the "we shouldn't have sex yet". My current girl knows I have banged bitches and she pulled this on me cause she wanted to know that I wanted her for something other then sex and wasn't "another girl", we have sex now but she has no where near the experience I do so she wanted to make sure I actually liked her.

[–]FedoraTipper15 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ugh this is why I don't bother with college girls. My hometown has better