Blue Pill ExampleBeta hears his crush get fucked by two guys in another room while he plays video games, decides to keep in contact with her (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by moose_war

tl;dr- It's the title

Link: https://archive.is/H4E2f

Classic example of finding out the woman you put on a pedestal is a whore. Of course, OP is a diehard beta and refuses to accept the truth. From the end of his post:

edit - To the people who keep calling her "whore," "slut," "bitch," etc, I don't agree with you and you're really not helping anything at all.

He doesn't agree that she is a whore. She simply fucked two strange men at once in a house she's probably never been to before. Nope, not slut behavior at all. Maybe even marriage material?!

edit 2 - She keeps trying to call me. I really see no benefit to anyone in answering.

OK good! Good...that's the first step towards seeing the light...

edit 3 - There is just no way I'm going to be able to keep up with all these replies. I'm going to call her and add an edit here later.

NOOOOOO. He's going to call HER? Oh lord. Oh lordy lord. This guy just can't keep this whore off the pedestal. He loooooves her. Maybe next time he can film the whole thing with his phone? At least he'll have something to jerk off to as he cries.

edit 4 - I'm familiar with the red pill and I won't be joining them, so you can save those suggestions.

Oh well, what a surprise. Beta in denial does not want practical help. Must have been raised by a single mommy. We'll be here cringing at your beta ways then.

When people ask "How does TRP work? not everyone can be alpha!" Well here is the answer. There will always be betas who choose to be betas despite all of the evidence pointing to the truth. Maybe some day he will join us or at least grow a spine and stop putting women above him. Who knows. Let's just hope it's sooner rather than later. This guy is currently calling his fucking crush that just fucked two men basically in front of him. Two men dominated the girl he is in love with, came on her face and down her throat and now he is calling her in tears. Makes me fucking sick.

Lessons Learned: Don't do anything this guy did ever.

EDIT: He followed up with a final addition to his original post:

edit 5 - TIFU by calling my (former) crush back the night after having heard her bang two dudes in the other room.

Sigh. People tried to tell you NOT to call her back.

Claimed she wanted me in there too. So I asked the obvious question, and she says she was drunk and it didn't work out the way she intended. Decided to just go with it when I didn't get involved. Passed out when it was over. Was worried about me, never meant to hurt me, bla bla bla. It helped nothing at all, as I don't really know what I can believe and what I can't.

Well at least he knows she is bullshitting him.

I've seen a few suggestions implying that it may have been rape

Ah so the feminists showed up to the thread then.

or that I should have tried to "save" her.

And the white knights!

The fact is that she practically led them down the hall, she was visibly damn happy, and sexual pleasure has a pretty distinct fucking sound. I wasn't going to sit around and listen for it to go south, nor was I going to burst in to what was pretty clearly a consensual sexual encounter that I didn't believe myself to be welcome in just to make sure everything was okay. If you guys want to start barging into the room anytime you hear people fucking at parties, be my guest. I'm not doing that though.

Whatever. Fuck this noise. Told her I don't hate her but I don't think we should talk anytime soon.

I sure hope he means "never" and sticks to it.

Apparently now I have a party to get to tonight. You guys are certainly free to keep bitching about what a "whore" she is if that's what you want to do though.

On to the next girl...that pedestal is getting cold!

[–]Cherubael- 191 points191 points [recovered]

Oh man, this same shit happened to some beta I worked with in the Navy.

This scrawny bitch-male starts posting all of his, "I'm stationed in Japan!" Photos on his Facebook. And wow, wouldn't you know it? Some ho from his high school days friends him. And though she wouldn't give him the time of day back then, suddenly she remembers that he was "sooo interesting" back in high school and how she wished she had gotten to know him better "before he moved so far away."

Yep, you guessed it. He damn near had his tongue hanging out for this girl. She plays the game with him, "falls in love" with him, and golly-gee-whiz, "I'd love to visit you out there in Japan, but I don't have any money, tee-hee."

That poor bastard couldn't get his credit card out fast enough. Having been a squid for a long time, I'd seen this sort of shit before. I warned him, but he wanted that worn-out cheerleader pussy really bad.

So she flies in on his dime, and he burns up some leave to go get her and chariot her back to his place. They get there, things get hot and heavy. They swap some spit, maybe he even got his finger sticky or saw what a nipple looks like on a real live girl. But then she pulls away.

"I-I'm confused. I don't know if I really feel this way about you. Can you be patient with me?"

So yeah, he white knights that shit. So the next night she's out in the Honch (bar district outside of Yokosuka Naval Station) and is sucking face with Chad. Chad escorts her to Roppongi (and onto his cock) where they spend the weekend, without so much as a glance at poor beta bitch-male.

They come back Monday morning, because Chad has to go to work. She goes back to beta bitch-male's apartment. He tries to confront her, but she blows him off because she's really tired (from fucking Chad all weekend). Beta bitch-male settles down and pacifies himself with some video games and internet porn.

But then work is over, and she rushes out to meet Chad. But Chad has spent all of his money on hotel rooms to fuck this slut in. What to do, what to do?


When I pieced together the story (from several sources), I confronted him. I was feeling cruel, but also wanted to wake his ass up. So I asked him if they made him leave his own apartment while they fucked on his bed, or if they let him stay and listen through the closed door while they fucked on his bed. The fucking cuck started crying and blubbering about how much he really, really loved her, and that he didn't understand why she would do that, blah blah.

But there is one thing he did learn from his decades of being a bitch-male. He decided that he was "offended" by our discussion and filed a grievance with the command.

I learned my lesson, too. Don't try to help people who don't ask for help.

[–]moose_war[S] 43 points44 points  (18 children)

God damn. Why didn't he just fuck Japanese chicks? This is what having a "crush" can do to a man. He's blinded by all the easy (and better) pussy out there for some consolation prize.

Your end to the story reminds me of a passage from the book Blood Meridian, set in the old west. Really bloodthirsty stuff, if you haven't read it. Really RP too.

After a big fight with some savage indians, one of the gang of scaplers has an arrowhead stuck in his leg. He asks all of the men around the campfire to help him and none will do it. But then main character, a bit young and naive, volunteers and pulls out the arrow successfully. Later on, one of the other characters takes the main character aside and tells him that was a real dumb move. When the main character asks why, the other one responds "Because he would have taken you with him". That's basically the same lesson in your story.

[–]Cherubael- 39 points39 points [recovered]

I couldn't say why he chased after this girl instead of all of the Japanese women that were available. I was never that great with women was I was younger, having been raised by a single mother and being very blue-pill white-knighty. But damn, I had four phone numbers and got a bathroom blowjob from some chick in the Honch on my first week in Yoko.

I think it has a lot to do with how young men are raised and trained now. When I first got into the military, everybody was all about chasing pussy here, chasing pussy there, how much pussy did you get this year, who did you fuck this weekend, etc. Porn was everywhere.

I retired two years ago. When I left, most of the younger guys were into video games and downloading movies. Not porn, just regular movies. Not many had girlfriends, and many who did had "low-hanging fruit"--either some girl that was on the ship or some chick that had thrown herself at him. There was very little in the way of pussy pursuit.

Another thing that bothered me was the fact that there was little interaction between the guys and the local girls. When I was younger, there were times that you COULD NOT GET IN to the A - CLUB (the enlisted club at the base gate in Yokosuka) because it was filled to capacity and letting more people in would break the fire code. Girls chasing guys and guys chasing girls. Now, they have to have Salsa lessons and Bingo nights to get any use out of that building at all. They were only able to increase patronage by putting free wifi throughout the building, so now people go there to play online games while they drink a beer.

I think that a lot of it has to do with the feminization of American society, but it can't take all of the blame. A lot also has to do with how technology allows the military (and other employers) treat their workers. When I first got in, there was (GASP!) no such thing as the Internet or mobile phones. When you were off work, you were off work, and there was no way to get you to come back in before Monday morning unless you were dumb enough to answer your land-line.

Now, every time the boss or some other jackass wants an answer to a question or needs some piddling "emergency" handled or even just wants to fuck with somebody, the guys get the phone call. And they had BETTER answer, or there will be consequences. Shit that in an earlier era could have waited until Monday is now dire and on fire. This means that you are basically sitting around on the weekends, already tense from your work week, and dreading hearing the phone ring. Not very relaxing.

Also, the brass in Japan has been VERY, VERY sensitive to the perception that all male American troops are rapists and murderers. This leads to a lot of bullshit rules, like midnight curfews for grown men and women, limits on how much you are allowed to drink, constant "training" on sexual assault ("you're a potential rapist because you are guilty of owning a penis.").

My guys, beaten down by their work and the extra bullshit heaped on them, have pretty much figured that women just aren't worth the trouble. I used to see sailors with Japanese wives and girlfriends all of the time (I'm one of those guys). Now it's a rarity.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Also, the brass in Japan has been VERY, VERY sensitive to the perception that all male American troops are rapists and murderers. This leads to a lot of bullshit rules, like midnight curfews for grown men and women, limits on how much you are allowed to drink, constant "training" on sexual assault ("you're a potential rapist because you are guilty of owning a penis.").

It's understandable. It's not the penis that you have. It's the guns and airplanes. What society would trust soldiers of a foreign country with their local women?

[–]foldpak111 7 points8 points  (0 children)

" lot also has to do with how technology allows the military (and other employers) treat their workers. When I first got in, there was (GASP!) no such thing as the Internet or mobile phones. When you were off work, you were off work, and there was no way to get you to come back in before Monday morning unless you were dumb enough to answer your land-line."

I remember dealing with this at a security company I used to work for. The stress of the work itself left you tense and there would always be phone calls about issues. Come in and speak with management, fill this shift, schedule change. The results where just how you described and it didn't make me a very pleseant person to be around. I acted like I was in a war zone in all settings.

[–]gopher_glitz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I think another factor to this is that before an American military man was someone who represented stability and a ticket to a better life. Now that so many women don't need men to buy all that worthless shit they want they don't see men in the same light.

Now the only men worth their time is men who make tons of money or that they really desire.

Which sucks for good men who can't earn tons of money but it's better in the long run for women to be with men who they genuinely desire too.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because as a woman on social media its a continuous all you can eat steak buffet now. Why bother with hamburger anymore. So the non 20% males just go do something else. Its not worth the hassle.

[–]Avedas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yokosuka's fucking gross now. I'm not American but I live there for work. I went out to the bars once and hopped on a train to Tokyo after about 30 minutes. Seriously just creepy navy dudes and old spinster Japanese women. I've never gone back.

[–]Zachar1a 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How much of that also has to do with the fact that large numbers of young Japanese adults have no interest in sex these days?

[–]Sdom1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, the brass in Japan has been VERY, VERY sensitive to the perception that all male American troops are rapists and murderers. This leads to a lot of bullshit rules, like midnight curfews for grown men and women, limits on how much you are allowed to drink, constant "training" on sexual assault...

The funniest part of all that is that none of this shit is going to affect a true-blue rapist. They are like pedophiles - rape is what gets them off and nothing is going to change that. It's like trying to get a gay kid to pray the gay away. They tried, but it just doesn't work.

[–]RedDeadlift 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow. That's a sad contrast between then and now. Smartphones really are virtual leashes around our collective necks.

[–]psionicsickness 9 points10 points  (6 children)

Maybe my ignorance is showing. "Taken you with him," where?

[–]moose_war[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

The implication is that he would have killed the main character if he fucked up the arrow pull. These guys were on the same side, but they weren't friends. Just hired killers. The main character thought he was doing a sort of brotherly thing to try and help him, but it could have backfired bad on him.

From a blog interpretting the book:

Page 163, "Dont you know he'd of took you with him? He'd of took you, boy. Like a bride to the altar." This is where Tobin is angry at the kid for helping David Brown remove the arrow in his thigh. Why does Tobin feel that the kid did a wrong thing by helping him? I don't understand that.

Response in the comments:

Tobin tells the kid that Davey Brown would of took him like a bride to the alter. What he meant was that if the kid broke the arrow off or caused him further injury that Davey would of killed him.

Helping people who aren't your friends can have unexpectedly bad consequences. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[–]AnAbsoluteSith 30 points31 points  (4 children)

I learned my lesson, too. Don't try to help people who don't ask for help.

Which is why I can't for the life of me understand why people try to advertise TRP on those threads. This isn't a religion; there is no call to go evangelize the good news to the masses.

I take the same stance with friends and other males in my life. I've tried on numerous occasions to lead them in the right direction, but who am I to force them if they willingly choose to stumble about in the dark? The pill can't be forced down anyone's throat, regardless of our intentions. It has to be taken willingly. We're simply the pharmacists who dispense the medication. When they're ready to be healed, they will come.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well, everybody wants to be that great teacher who helps everybody else. It's just like with religion; there's no one more enthusiastic to spread the word than a new convert. You just gotta learn to pick your spots.

[–]geppetto123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am always wondering what makes the difference in those ppl. I would have wished i found RP much earlier in my life as i was already seeking for this kind of advice 8yrs ago and found kind of nothing and looked for tips like a sponge.

Looking back it would have been soo much easier to have somebody similar, so I still catch me thinking that other ppl must be happy as well if I tell them early.

I just ask a hypothetic question like Matrix style, if they would be willing to be awaken. If they say yes, guess what, its not so hyphotetical - you could wake up, but it could be harsh - depending on what you expect to find. Should i continue and see what their eyes tell me....

[–]ILoveSunflowers 11 points12 points  (1 child)

hahaha Oh man, he filed a grievance? dude's bedroom smells like her stank from her and some other guy and he's mad at you! hahahaha That's shitty but hilarious.

[–]mugatucrazypills 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd just like to chime in and say Fuck Japan, I mean seriously all this whiny shit about Hiroshima 70 years ago and GIs being rapists when they basically let their soldiers rape n kill their way thru all Asia and are spending the next century in lies and denial. Plus their entire pop culture which seems to be based on molesting schoolgirls.

Frankly we need to dust off the Enola Gay from the Smithsonian and pop another Jap city to remind them who the Alpha bear is.

[–]Fafner2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Rule number one of TRP is to not talk about TRP and just nudge betas in the right direction. Some of them are hopeless like beta bitch here so just look to see if he wants to actually improve or is lost in snowflakeland

[–]MeatRocket23 11 points12 points  (6 children)

I'll bet he didn't even have the balls to get a refund for her return ticket. Huge props to you for making him cry. Fuck that spineless pussy for going and snitching on you. His "crush" takes all his money and fucks other guys in front of him for a reason.

[–]Cherubael- 15 points15 points [recovered]

Well, it wasn't my intention to make him cry. I was going for a "yeah, you got screwed, but did you learn anything?" teachable moment sort of situation.

All of this (and more) happened long before I started looking around on Reddit and learned about the Red Pill. But when I found it, I immediately recognized the situations and understood most of the concepts. It's not because I'm a genius or a badass or anything; I've just have a lot of opportunities to watch a large pool of younger guys go through all of the same bullshit and drama that women can cause. When you see so much of the same shit happening over and over and over again, you can't help but recognize the patterns.

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[–]Cherubael- 3 points3 points [recovered]

I hear ya, man. It was a black eye for me, but I didn't really worry about it. I tried to help, and I understood that he was frustrated and probably really, really embarassed. So I gave it an "eh, whatever," and carried on.

It sucked, but I dealt with it and learned my lesson. That's all we can really do, right? You can't know everything.

[–]ChewbaccaFart 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Best thing I did before leaving for the Army was cut ties with the girl I was with.

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[–]1htbf 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Can I make a short movie out of this? I want to make a short movie of this.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Naughty America has already done so 1 million times.

[–]mygodimpathetic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For the love of... geez... That's a depressing story.

Right after reading that I got the strange urge to go thru my facebook "friends" and hit de-friend if I still found any of the old high school sluts that had added me after high school.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do the opposite. I love going on Facebook and messaging them and saying "when we were in hs, I thought you were so hot? Gave me a raging hard on in class, etc." Then once they reply flattered and excited after doing an obvious SMV check (profile read), I sit back and laugh at the carousel riders.

[–]moose_war[S] 158 points159 points  (31 children)

lol I tried warning the kid to not put pussy on a pedestal (before they locked the thread) and the mods deleted my comment because it was labelled "hate speech"

[–]eastbaythrowaway22 97 points98 points  (1 child)

He should've put that pussy on the chainwax.

[–]fadetoblack1004 18 points19 points  (7 children)

They didn't ban you? They banned me.

[–]Fafner2 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Got banned from gifs for the same beta hamster reason. Not like I can make an alt or anything though

[–]NeoreactionSafe 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Bannings seem to be on the rise. I was on a list of thousands who were labelled "potential trouble" but nothing happened for a while. Then I showed up on a list of "most influential people of reddit" and my first ban occurred. After that I'm pretty much banned everywhere but here.

Reddit seems (for now) to be accepting that all Red Pill is contained within Red Pill. At some point the ban will grow to erase Red Pill entirely.

But the Manosphere is wider than just Reddit now. Most good "post-Blue Pill" sites are just for reading and don't allow posting. (Chateau Heartiste for example)

The Oligarchs (who want to keep all of us as good consumers and slaves) are in an uncomfortable position of tolerating our waking up... but they only allow a small amount of it. If you demonstrate too much awareness of the system they crack down. We have to remind ourselves that we live under this system that limits our ability to free ourselves. Betas are blissfully unaware they are being manipulated all the way from the top down. (which has always been true)


[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Try using a different metaphore to convey the same meaning next time.

[–]sushisection 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Dont put that clam on the top shelf

[–]foldpak111 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I just let these guys continue on with their ways. Less competition for me.

[–]ShounenEgo 8 points9 points  (1 child)

People like the fifa playing kid in a social event brimming with pussy aren't even worthy to be called "competition".

[–]obama_loves_nsa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

E X A C T L Y.

Let these clowns play fifa while we are tag teaming their crushes.

[–]RUoffended 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hate speech!? Jesus Christ, Reddit is more cucked than the asshole in this story.

[–]nuesuh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They just click on your username and to a "ctrl + F" and then types "redpill".


[–]should_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At least you didn't say "fuckboy." /s

[–]thefisherman1961 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There is no such thing as objective hate speech. To illustrate this point, you should have accused the moderator of hate speech for calling your post hate speech.

Anyway, it was labelled hate speech because they saw in your post history that you are a Red Piller, not because you actually said anything hateful in your post on that sub.

[–]ElectricFagSwatter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Censorship is so great and helpful...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But yet in the movie 40 year old virgin, they said the exact same words and it was comedy

[–]systemshock869 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol I tried warning the kid to not put pussy on a pedestal (before they locked the thread) and the mods deleted my comment because it was labelled "hate speech"

Then they go watch 40 Year Old Virgin and their little brain doesn't even notice when the phrase is used.

[–][deleted] 209 points210 points  (17 children)

That moment when you leave a party to follow your oneitis to another mans house to play Fifa. You could have been talking to other girls or having a good time at a party but instead you're playing video games while she fucks two other guys.

Then you call her. I would never speak to a girl like that again. Even in my worst days I wouldn't be clown enough to keep relations with a girl like that.

But cucks gonna cuck.

[–]BrunoOh 90 points91 points  (6 children)

This is a plain lack of self respect, people like him can't be saved.

[–]yamato403 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Or as a member said some time ago, if you were in the dessert with this guy it's pointless to give him water as he would just keep eating salt.

[–]MuleJuiceMcQuaid 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Would the water be for cake or pie?

[–]Fafner2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thousands more just like him ready and waiting to be cucked. Oh and ready to feed the egos of CC sluts

[–]menial_optimist 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I like how the way he words it, he's trying to come off as if he's not the loser in this situation when everyone's winning but him. Even if his story is true about her being down with him, his lack of escalation only made him lose in the end anyways.

[–]thefisherman1961 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If she banged him then I would have believed her story, but that's probably not going to happen because his beta-ness is drying her up

[–]moose_war[S] 38 points39 points  (3 children)

But she was "special" remember. He had a "crush" on her.

[–]Luckyluke23 28 points29 points  (1 child)

god... people still use the word crush.. what are we in high school.

either you fucking her or yo ain't. and if yo ain't then move on sun. shit.

[–]thefisherman1961 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's where abunance mentality in alphas comes from - when they realize how stupidly fast they can get [most] girls in their bed when she shows IOIs. Makes one-itis seem like a real waste of time and energy.

[–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, subjectively she was "special" to him, but objectively? AWALT. This is all about perception.

[–]foldpak111 7 points8 points  (2 children)

The depression went away and I naturally became an aloof alpha once I set goals. Right now I'm focused on meditation, quantitative analysis of the stock market, and computer science. I no longer even give a shit if people like me or not, more time to self-develop. Knowledge and capital is the only thing that I like.

[–]cannibaloxfords 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good on you dude!!! This is what its all about, tons of self improvement and not giving a fuck. Best post here

[–]4benny2lava0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who the fuck leaves a party waith drinks music and bitches to go play fifa? I would slap the white out of this guy.

[–]ChanThunderwang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That moment when you leave a party to follow your oneitis to another mans house to play Fifa.

That moment when you go with your oneitis to a party.

...well, if I think about it: Just enter the party, and one minute later say to her: "Hey, I like you. Do you want to come to my place?"

This would at least be kinda funny.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 39 points40 points  (2 children)

This is why you can't be friends with a crush. Not gonna happen. Shit always goes sour.

He shoulda stayed at the party and learn to fly solo

[–]laere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or hit up some of the guys who clearly were able to talk to girls, befriend them, and then ask how they do what they do. Invest your time into some male friends that got game, and you're going to get paid with pussy in the long run.

[–][deleted] 68 points69 points  (10 children)

A lot of people in the comments are saying how this hits them in the stomach and makes them feel sick. I think this is because so many people have a story similar to it of their own. Take a date out, go to bar, come back with drinks and she's kissing someone else sort of thing.

[–]fittitthroway 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Or they elevate women to such heights in their feeble minds that this stuff shocks them. Like women aren't capable of, and not doing this stuff from since the dawn of man.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 35 points36 points  (2 children)

Can you blame them? If you got shamed and guilt-tripped for wanting sex since the age of 13 and got constantly told how much women hate it when they're objectified and hit on by guys who only want one thing, and only want sex when comes with deepest intimacy, it's easy to develop the notion that the norm for women is to not do any kinky shit ever.

[–]DarkuSchneider 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree. As a 40 year old raised by a single mom(and conservative religion and beta men) I was so behind the curve in life compared to my peers early on but it also saved me from being a beta mule myself. To pay for my fathers infidelity and the families shame I was raised to be nothing like him. I was terrified of upsetting women(sex and women in general) and placating their warped mentality as gospel from the benevolent goddesses that gave me life since evil men just pump and dump and left the kids behind. I learned the definition of sexism before sexual intercourse. I was the whitest of knights once upon a time. I know the OPs pain and used to excuse such things too, even happened to me once or twice growing up. I have pondered writing a thesis on WKs for TRP and how to disarm them as I have done it a few times successfully after escaping the armor myself. I don't care enough to try anymore as much but it was rewarding and sometimes entertaining to watch the transformation when it goes well but it can go very badly too.

Is it really all that that bad to say I kinda felt pity for Elliot Rodgers in a way because I knew how he felt; had good looks, money, smart, nice style, but 0 self-esteem, and a lifetime of unfulfilled needs and feeling powerless. The programming is so insidious it almost killed me. I developed suicidal tendencies and self-destructive habits when I was unable to fulfill the call of nature and shamed for having such feelings. Instead of outward rage towards others I internalized it in silent misery to 'take it like a man' so everyone said I was such a nice boy. Nature has it's own insidious programming and when programming conflicts too much eventually humans break. I fell into the clutches of a young fledgling feminist single mother in college that thought she could make me her plow horse. Yes one day a girl as promised did see me for my nice guy 'real value'. Luckily she overplayed her hand so much even my low self esteem couldn't stand yet another woman trying to program me in conflict to my instincts so I walked away with little else but a shred of dignity. That was enough to start over and I channeled the rage into working my ass off to make a good life I could be proud of and to hell with the rest.

It took a chunk of my 30s to deprogram, push my mother out of the center of my life, and get one of my dream jobs and date like a normal person. It got easy when mom started to passively shame me for not making grand kids for her by 30. One day she had the nerve to lament to me not having good men in my life as if she was the victim for it. I told her she needed to plan on living with my sister instead of me when she got old since there were plenty of grand kids to spoil there. I served my sentence and was done with all of it. Life got good when I started to learn to live as a free man. It is never too late as life is a work in progress until your last breath, so never waste another one. I cringe watching so many promising young people get caught up in the same lies gleefully taking selfies as the machine chews them to pieces.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think this is because so many people have a story similar to it of their own.

You don't need to have a similar story. All you need is the primal fear that you imagine your oneitis to be some pure special angel (...and guys who develop oneitis usually like to think that) only to find out that she's the opposite.

[–]Dualmilion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It just reminded me of a friend who did the same thing but he was one of the Guys #1 #2. Actually pretty funny and spot on

[–]thehonestdouchebag 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Maybe I'm desensitized, but does finding out some random chick is a sloot really make people sick to their stomachs now a days? Not the OP, but all those commenters. How can someone else's sloot story affect them so heavily.

80 years ago young men were charging head first into MG fire on the beaches of France, today they get sick to their stomach hearing about a strangers unfaithful crush. Weak.

[–]GrandmasterHurricane 36 points37 points  (0 children)

You're talking as if those men charging the beaches of France didn't have betas in their ranks. You think all these guys were 6"4 Chads? Get real, those men were you, they were me, they were your neighbor's beta husband. Even to this day, we have betas going to war in the middle east.

Get real.There's a difference between situational alphas and natural alphas.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 8 points9 points  (0 children)

80 years ago young men were charging head first into MG fire on the beaches of France, today they get sick to their stomach hearing about a strangers unfaithful crush. Weak.

TIL D-Day was in 1935 :scnr:

Well, I think 70 years ago the men would have been even more apalled by making the same experience OP had.

[–]DrCarter11 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Psychological reaction more so than anything. The story reminds them of something that happened to them and caused them emotional suffering. So when they hear his story, the emotional suffering hits them again briefly. This typically is associated with a stomach crushing kind of feeling.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (3 children)

That hurts to read. An instinctual disgust and parallel to my own past failings before I got here. A lot of us can relate to the pain he must have been feeling, but that's where the similarity ends. RedPill separates the wheat from the chaff, you either accept the harsh reality presented to you or dive deeper into denial. Betas are weak, they would rather buy further into the fantasy than have to realign themselves.

[–]laere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's great though to finally understand why we felt that way, and now we know how to completely avoid those situations forever. It's very powerful, having self-respect.

[–]bobapop 27 points28 points  (21 children)

I was waiting for this to be posted on here. Reading that story was painful, and the comments were even worse in my opinion. There are so many highly up voted comments that are basically commending him for the way he handled it (generally being a NiceGuy instead of calling her out on her bullshit) which he seems to be taking to heart. Ultimately, it's up to the OP to figure his life out, but I hate that he's receiving advice that helps him doom himself to doormat status.

[–]moose_war[S] 49 points50 points  (11 children)

I love the comments that were like "You should explain how you feel, you might still have a chance with her!"

Are these people living in reality?

[–]bobapop 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I saw those. At first, I thought they might be joking, but then I realized I was in a thread about a guy's date getting double teamed while he sat and listened to it. I don't know what to believe anymore lol.

[–]RedDeadlift 8 points9 points  (7 children)

Are these people living in reality?

Nope. Relevant South Park episode last week.

[–]ShounenEgo 1 point2 points  (6 children)

What's the episode's title so I can look it up?

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (4 children)

cuck...cuck..cuck, cuck, CUCK! CUCK CUCK! CUCK CUCK!!

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (3 children)

He's a Cuck in training. A pro Cuck would've stood at the door jerking it to their moaning.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He's well on his way though! God imagine if that was your fucking son? Well let's be real no RP man would raise anything close to this.

[–]botbullet0 59 points60 points  (15 children)

His replies pissed me off. How the fuck is she not a whore? Any girl that sleeps with two guys like that is the slutiest of sluts. I feel for the guy, but damn he needs to wake up

[–]Talon1212 25 points26 points  (3 children)

whats more sad is he got textbooked cucked right before his eyes and he still doesn't believe she is a whore.

At the very least he didn't believe her shit when she said he thought he would join in and hes passed on her.

[–]bobapop 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I felt like his refusal to call her a whore was his way of keeping the door open. Sure, he might not talk to her for awhile, but he didn't learn a damn thing and it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up interacting with her again.

[–]botbullet0 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yea she was a slut right in front of him. It's insane how blindly beta some guys are

[–]RuAEOBro 23 points24 points  (1 child)

It's all sunshine and rainbows in Betaville, a land full of unicorns who love guys just the way they are.

[–]ShounenEgo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I bet in a week from now he would be actually encouraging her to embrace her sexuality!

"What's that? You had a threesome next room while I was playing FIFA? You go girl! It's important to enjoy things, You Only Live Once after all!".

[–]BallisticTherapy 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Her slutshake brings all the boys to the yard

and they're like, "It's better than whores!"

Damn right, it's better than whores.

She could be one, but she'd have to charge.

[–]JimmyTheIntern 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Underrated comment, right here.

[–]juliusstreicher 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It belongs in a poetry anthology.

[–]ReallyMeanPerson 17 points17 points [recovered]

Lol, it's like he still respects her and is willing to defend her good name. What a punk

[–]botbullet0 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Shit like that makes me sick. Guys defending sluts are the worst. It happens all the time

[–]Soldier_of_Misfortun 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The best part is her explanation/excuse/attempt to salve Cucky's wounded heart: What I really wanted wasn't a simple DP, I wanted a full-fledged gang bang where three dudes plow me - including YOU of course, lover.

[–]Drogba006 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well they didn't pay her, so there's that.

That is one dirty, dirty fucking broad though

[–]redpill80 41 points42 points  (21 children)

Or you can be an adult and say "hey, I've had a crush on you for a while and was hoping to make something happen last night, so it hurt me to see you decide to hook up with a couple of other guys." And then you can take it from there. If you actually like her as a person, well she's still the same person she was yesterday. If you're some kind of creep who thinks women can only have sex when you approve of the time, place and partners, well keep hanging out on Reddit: you'll find a lot of lonely guys willing to reinforce your false sense of superiority.

Found this gem right here. Whoever came up with this advice is an unempathetic, miserable human being.

[–]moose_war[S] 38 points39 points  (2 children)

What's scary is the majority of western women probably believe this is a great response. "she's still the same person she was yesterday" yeah, she's still a whore.

[–]redpill80 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Being a whore doesn't explicitly make her a bad person, but it does make her gross and a bad choice for sex (STDs) and poor material for a potential partner. It also calls into question her judgment. What's most upsetting is she knew the guy had a crush on her and still did it, only a person who was a complete asshole who could do that. She's a bad choice for a friend so at this point what's left?

The real problem is shaming him for his belief that he deserves quality people in his life.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 12 points13 points  (2 children)

If you actually like her as a person, well she's still the same person she was yesterday.

Well, the guy is right in that regard - she is still the same person she was yesterday. The difference is that now he knows what person she is, and yesterday he didn't.

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Correct, the person that changed was him. He now knows what she is.

She never changed. She merely showed him what she was.

[–]ChadThundercockII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's some Eat, Pray, Love level of self discovery.

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 19 points20 points  (8 children)

Actually, the advice is 100% on the money.

IF he'd been hanging out with just because he thought she was cool to hang with, then her fucking a whole football team at the party wouldn't change a thing.

Of course, the problem for our little beta is that he wasn't hanging out with her just because he thought she was cool.

He wanted to fuck her. In fact, his whole night was organized around following her around, hoping to get a piece.

Getting all upset because two other guys had the balls and SMV to straight-up proposition and then fuck the chick you wanted... because you were orbiting instead of escalating... is a beta bitch move.

Moral of the story: You want her? Act like a sexual being and show your desire. If she says yes, fuck her. If she says no, move on. Don't orbit.

[–]rpersona 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The advice is not 100% on the money. What you just said isn't even the same thing they said. Yeah he should have grabbed his balls and escalated before the Chad's did it.

But talking to her after the fact? Absolutely terrible advice. A complete waste of his time.

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing is, you're not understanding what they're saying.

Nothing about that girl changed at the party. She was the same person before , as after.

The only thing that changed was Mr. Beta's perception of her as some sort of perfect angel unicorn "spend your life with me love me forever" fantasy object for him to orbit around.

When he reveals that her behavior changed his perception of her, then he's revealing that he's a beta pussy who had her on a pedestal and had some fantasy scenario guiding his actions.

That's what makes him "creepy." Because he is. He's creeping around trying to sneak a piece of pussy with the orbiter act, instead of just seeing what's up, saying what he wants, and going for that shit.

If Chad had been hanging out with her, he wouldn't have been surprised by a girl slutting it up at all, AND his opinion of her wouldn't change at all.

Chad knows that AWALT, and Chad has abundance mentality to last for days, so one of the dozens of girls he knows socially getting plugged ain't nothing to him. He'd just laugh and tease the shit out of her the next day for how loud she was.

That's why Beta is a creepy outcast, and why Chad is allowed in Party World.

[–]redpill80 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Their advice is that if he changes her opinion of her/ loses interest because of the situation, then he's a creep. "He didn't really like her for her." Our society shouldn't shame men for losing interest when other people don't value their time/emotions.

That being said, we shouldn't be encouraging pedestalization of women either. He shouldn't be surprised that women (like men) can be assholes.

[–]KAGJ027 15 points15 points [recovered]

For some reason this reminded me of some post that was on my front page from the showerthoughts subreddit a while ago :

"My future wife is probably banging some dude right now. Damn." https://archive.is/xefYz

It's like they've all resigned, and settled with the fact that they will indeed, have to wife up a whore.

[–]1DRMMR76 5 points6 points  (1 child)

They know it's wrong. They know there was a time when this wasn't the case. Part of them knows that a society that uses social pressure to prevent women from acting on their sexual impulses is better for both men and women, but they've been brainwashed into denying it, even to themselves.

[–]ChadThundercockII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still, we are the terrorists, the sexists, the goat fuckers and the underdeveloped of this world. Yes, she is a human being but a whore nonetheless. Punishing one woman will fend off thousands from giving pussy to the highest Tingler. Punching a homosexual for walking the streets with make up and skirt will fend off others who want to behave the same.

Mind you, Feminism got to us. That is why I am here. Sluts are emerging from everywhere. We are standing strong as males, but the betas are too many.

[–]7478 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have to realize though that an overwhelming segment of females have fucked around. Finding one that hasn't is unbelievably rare (NAWALT). It's best just to embrace the understanding that all the attractive ones have, and bang them with no commitment or expectation of anything other than whorish behavior. You may find ones that aren't completely gaped out after years of pussy erosion from hundreds of cocks and they are the ones worth spending a little more time with but ultimately looking for a unicorn is a recipe for disaster. Wife her up and she'll immediately start fucking the pool guy.

[–]GoldPisseR 63 points63 points [recovered]

I am not American but I kind of see what the problem with you guys is. You are way too accepting of female promiscuity.

I mean if this happened with me I won't feel bad, because I'll find out that the girl is a filthy fucking slut and you don't feel bad when a slut does what she's supposed to do.You mock her , maybe fuck her and move on.

Getting attached to a 'sexually liberal' woman will kill you from inside.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (8 children)

They all.... are sluts man. Or have the potential to be. Right circumstances can change anyone

[–]GoldPisseR 39 points39 points [recovered]

And you are enabling them. Even the trashiest gutter slut gets a rich guy to take care of her just because she has a nice ass.

I am not saying to ostracize promiscuous women but atleast don't reward them with a stable married life.

If guys stop marrying whores ,girls will stop being whores.They need men , their biggest fear is to be left out all alone.

No matter what the liberals tell you, without rules and traditions there will be utter annihilation of stable spcial structure.Giving into every instinct ,every temptation isnt empowerment , its weakness.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Agree 100%. She says she wanted him to join. Why didn't he ask her over the following day so he could get his piece? He could have defiled her past recognition. Probably, could have made her famous (pornhub famous). Sluts and "sexually adventurous" (hamster speak) women have a purpose, it's best that we as Men make sure they are utilized to the best of their ability.

Yes he would be getting leftovers. Morning after pizza is delicious when you are starving.

[–]Buchloe 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's all leftovers. Every chick has fucked other guys. You just don't usually have to see it.

[–]rpersona 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Society is already going in that direction via multiple routes. Whether its Red Pill, MGTOW or the Sexodus women are running out of options really fast and I don't think they even have the ability to get get their shit together.

[–]larrythetomato 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Actual story: Sally Slut tries to wing Barry Beta

When they first met, Sally, liking Barry at the time, gave Barry all the signs and signals hoping that he would take control. It turns out that he didn't so he must have not wanted her at the time, because no one would ever miss obvious signals like 5% longer stares and standing close by. Sally was hurt a bit but that's okay, Barry turned out to be such a good friend all these years.

A couple of years later, Sally notices her friend Barry has been quite lonely so she invites him to a party she is going to. Barry is really excited and so is she, hoping that he will finally get out of his nervous rut. Things don't always go as planned. Even after introducing him to a bunch of girls, he just keeps following her away and eventually just goes and plays video games alone. A bit frustrated, she gives up. She now just leaves him alone and has a bit of fun herself, this guy named Chad seems pretty cool...

Bonus Epilogue:

The following day after a night of drinking and sex, Sally, a bit hungover, notices her friend has gone missing. She calls him to see if he's alright. Eventually a deranged Barry calls her telling of how their friendship is over and that they should never talk again. Sally is confused.

[–]troubled_loner 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is a really good illustration of the other side of the story. Not that it changes anything but good to be able to know the thinking.

[–]situ139 20 points21 points  (8 children)

why the fuck are people telling him to join trp.

[–][deleted] 32 points32 points

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[–]jaysire 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Seriously though, stop trying to recruit you stupid faggots.

I always think it would be bad to have a lot of people convert to trp, because that would toughen the competition. It's like giving platinum credit cards to everyone.

[–]Cell-i-Zenit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The thing is: joining TRP is easy. Staying in TRP is not that hard either. But improving is REALLY hard.

Even when you hand out platinum cards, they are no competition

[–]afroose 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's true the problem is when you make a post about it, mods will delete it, members try to convert the whole world it will make TRP worthless.

[–]Poikai 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Most aren't. Most are telling him not to. It's not like TRP goes on recruiting raids.

[–]fittitthroway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yup saw that. Its his latest edit.

[–]botbullet0 10 points11 points  (0 children)

His replies pissed me off. How the fuck is she not a whore? Any girl that sleeps with two guys like that is the slutiest of sluts. I feel for the guy, but damn he needs to wake up

[–]ReasonFreak 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Touch and go there but at least it had a half way happy ending. There's nothing like finding out your crush is just another dime a dozen whore to break a case of oneitis.

[–]moose_war[S] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

The problem is he doesn't see her as a "whore" and will probably fill the pedestal slot up with another "not-whore".

[–]ReasonFreak 2 points3 points  (2 children)

He's been refusing to use the word whore, just like he's been refusing explicitly red pill advice, but he's still cutting off contact, that's a step in the right direction. Even the most beta of blue pill chumps still has a male brain, so it's likely that his ex crush is now forever tainted in his mind. If he's even just a little bit less likely to pedestalize the next girl then it'll be an experience worth having, even though I'm sure it's difficult for him to understand that now.

Ultimately, the Red Pill is just seeing the world and all the people in it for what it is and who they are, you can only avoid it for so long.

[–]moose_war[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

but he's still cutting off contact

Well for now. He said he won't talk to her "any time soon". Leaving the door open there for his cooling off period.

[–]RuAEOBro 17 points18 points  (5 children)

What a loser. If this guy had any self-respect he would cut her off after that incident. None of my friends would ever let someone disrespect them like that, but if they did and I found out about it, I would tear them a new one. This guy screams a scarcity mentality.

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Do you think scarcity mentality comes from most peoples financial situation. Do you think it carries over into other areas of our lives?

[–]RuAEOBro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily, but it is definitely possible. Any area that someone is insecure in can project into their actions. I, for instance, don't feel comfortable dancing in public. Others can sense this in my mentality. They know that I don't do it with others (scarcity) often because of how I am. I think someone that would be financially insecure would show it too. They would be less hesitant to spend money on frivolous things where others would perceive them as cheap, which may carry over into other areas of life.It's more of a compounding effect. Maybe a person won't like to hang out with a cheap person because of how they make them feel. That person could perceive it as they lack a good/strong personality, thereby attributing flaws to certain personality traits, while they don't realize the reason someone doesn't like them is entirely contextual.

[–]DarkuSchneider 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it potentially could. When I read 'No More Mr. Nice Guy' it talks about this scarcity mentality. The nice guy is overly nice because he feels shame for not getting needs met as a child and thinks somethings wrong with him so he compensates by needy and deceptive behavior disguised as being overly nice and kissing ass instead of kicking it in life. This will also predispose them to oneitis as they feel so lucky when they finally get attention and will do anything to not scare it away. They will bear any burden to get their fix even cuckolding or worse.

The patients the book follows also were held back in careers sometimes by playing it too safe out of fear of losing their wives. I know work sucked before I broke my shell and asserted myself as a person of value. For relationships it seemed to go the same way. If you don't value yourself no one else will beyond a disposable pawn if you even get that lucky in today's world.

Shaming the kid won't help, white knights armadillo when outmatched. In a WKs brain any opposition(even an unrelated topic) is a direct assault to his paradigm that keeps him glued together which is why you can't reason with them until you break them. If he is in too deep he can't escape the armor unaided but he has to want out. Not everyone is ready to unplug themselves.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Your damn right that that's why there'll always be betas. Evidence just won't do it for some men.


[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dude, the way they convinced him she has a cuckold fetish and he dodged a bullet. I can't stop laughing, they know what they're doing and it's hilarious.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I like to imagine the commentator on Fifa uttered phrases such as:

"And X Get's the Double!!!!!"

"He Hammers it home"

And various other soccer double entendres.

And who the fuck is pm'ing this guy talking about the red pill? quit that shit, where's your self respect?

[–]Philhelm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"And X Get's the Double!!!!!"

"He Hammers it home"

"Ohhhh...that's just disgusting! In all of my years of announcing, I've never seen a play like that!"

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Can't fix betas.

Betas gonna beta.

They are gluttons for punishment. They will only come when they are ready and get pissed on enough.

[–]monzzter221 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah I saw that thread. Told him she probably enjoyed humiliating him. He literally couldn't comprehend the concept at first.

I guess all women are pretty sweet butterflies.

[–]Reddington12 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Claimed she wanted me in there too."

Hmm, so his crush straight up said she wanted 3 guys to tag team her. Sounds like a keeper. Is society to the point where a chick thinks a statement like that would increase her perceived value to a guy?

[–]Drenmar 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I like how the girl tried to convince him that she actually wanted a foursome with him included. As if that makes it somehow better.

[–]spli10wiggz 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I was so pissed reading that.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I just wanted to know whether they tower bridged with or without high fives.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

To the people who keep calling her "whore," "slut," "bitch," etc, I don't agree with you and you're really not helping anything at all.

"To all the people calling my pet cat a cat, I don't agree with you". The fuck are you talking about, cuzz?

[–]eastbaythrowaway22 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Damn, what is wrong with some "men"?

[–]we_need_more_lumber 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't read this post. I cringe so hard it's like my asshole just tried eating lemon. And also I get hard. I don't know why is that. There is a lot of porn out there reinforcing this fear, like girls fucking her bf's best friend when her bf is in the other room, or in the same bed when he's sleeping. I don't know why I find this appealing, cheating and shit, and also am disgusted by it. Probably lack of self-esteem.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How can that dude live with himself.

Secondly am i like the only dude that doesnt want to fuck a chick with my friend?

How often does this happen? Like I would never invite my buddy to double team some chick, I dont want to see him "in the mode" it just comes off as latently homosexual to me.

[–]bam2_89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I found the TIFU post and knew someone would post about it here.

Love no thot.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Girls just wanna have fun, oooh girls they wanna have fun!

[–]wtg2989 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This type of thing happened to two different friends of mine growing up.

  1. Friend throws a small house party and everybody's favorite slut of the group shows up with another friend who she "kinda likes." She gets drunk and/or high and goes with the host to his bedroom and fuck. The other guy may have been bothered by it but he wisely moved on and stopped talking to her. She later claimed to regret it but shit we all know what she really wanted.

  2. My good friend brought his crush up to our college town to a house party one weekend where she proceeded to get shitfaced (along with everyone else) and made out with three people, hot fingered by at least 2, and fucked one or two. He was really drunk and cried all night. Learned his lesson too though.

I think that this type of experience may be more beneficial than scarring, but it's hard to make a sweeping generalization. I think for many it's like ripping off a band-aid and getting all the pain over with at once. The guys live and learn from it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Misery loves company. He's rejecting obvious advice that will help him. This dude doesn't seem like he wants any help honestly. He's just being a pussy and wallowing in his BETA emotions.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TIFU by calling my (former) crush back the night after having heard her bang two dudes in the other room.

By writing that, did he not Re-READ it and think "holy crap that just looks bad!"

What an idiot.

[–]eastbaythrowaway22 2 points3 points  (1 child)


She isn't a whore!11111!1!!!11111

[–]BallisticTherapy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are correct.

If you wanna get precise about it, she's a slut because she didn't charge.

[–]Alequo 3 points3 points [recovered]

Story has to be fake

She drove, we chatted, I made my interest apparent. She seemed to reciprocate. As the night went on and the liquid courage started loosening everybody up, she started getting kinda flirty and feely with a lot of people. Should have been my red flag to get the hell out. Nope.

This series of events doesn't make any sense. Girl he has been flirting with is getting drunk and acting like she's dtf and he not only doesn't act (understandably pathetic) but thinks he should have taken that as a sign to leave? That's like being at a restaurant and taking the waiter walking over to you with your food as as a sign to leave. I'm calling bullshit.

[–]1DRMMR76 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Simple projection of male thinking onto a female. Logically, if a girl is interested in me, it makes sense she should be talking to me. If she is talking and flirting with other men, it is reasonable to think she is interested in them and not me.

That's what happens when you apply logic to women. It doesn't fit, and the OP doesn't know that yet.

[–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are, as usual, correct. His behavior, while incomprehensible to normal males, is crystal clear to people of his ilk. I used to be just like him, and, I still have to fight off that mentality. That is one of the many wonderful things about TRP, that there is a resource to help.

[–]moose_war[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I thought the same thing but to me it's honestly just believable to be real. I wouldn't put it past a beta to do this.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Start hanging out with women more. Women will talk about how they wanted to get something done, but didnt want to do it themselves so they flirted with some guy. Then they start to exchange notes and boast who got more out of betas.

So chick wanted to go to party, but not by herself so she's got the guy to go with her. Then when she found something better she ditched him.

[–]colovick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hate to be that guy, but I'm pretty sure she really did want all 3 of them and would have just stuck with op if he weren't so damn spineless. It's sad how little effort he put in.

[–]fadetoblack1004 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I got blasted in there for preaching self-respect over putting the pussy on a pedestal. Funny shit.

Got me banned for calling him a beta lol. WTF?

[–]Treq-S 1 point2 points  (0 children)

umm what do you expect from reddit where its filled with professional whiteknights..?

[–]teeelo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You won't be shushed for speaking the truth here

[–]anooblol 1 point2 points  (4 children)

What would you do in his situation? Considering she's his only way of getting home, he's somewhat forced to stay. But I DEFFINITELY would consider this "relationship" (If you can call this sad sack's situation a relationship...) 100% over. I probably wouldn't get into this situation anyway... I guess I'm just talking non-sense aren't I...

[–]thechariot83 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If I was this dude and this happened to me, I wouldn't care if my house was 4 hours away. I'm still walking and figuring it out along the way. Fuck staying in that house with the fifa menu music in the background mixed with moaning. Fuck that.

[–]moose_war[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I probably wouldn't have put myself at the mercy of the girl. If she has to drive me to a party, and me and her aren't banging yet, and I really want to bang her, this situation is a nightmare.

[–]getRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

edit - To the people who keep calling her "whore," "slut," "bitch," etc, I don't agree with you and you're really not helping anything at all.

edit 4 - I'm familiar with the red pill and I won't be joining them, so you can save those suggestions.

Oh for Whales in extinction heavens. Some of you are just helpless and clues!! And no. I'm not talking only about the guy playing videogames. Some of you are even more clueless than him

[–]Enjoyitbeforeitsover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know what, I immediately thought, this shit is gonna be on TRP. lol Some people just can't have their eyes opened.

[–]40_SixandTwo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anytime I see BP examples like these I get physically weak and start drinking.

[–]smper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If that is true that's one of the saddest stories I've ever read. Even though he seems like he deserves it, I can't help but feel extremely sorry for this beta.

[–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I can just imagine being an HB9 that just spent a night getting drilled by two alpha males then getting a phone call from this chump the day after. To be honest I would look for strategies to extract resources from him cause you know this dude will do anything for m'lady.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't believe he still defends her in his sign off:

You guys are certainly free to keep bitching about what a "whore" she is if that's what you want to do though.

Some people are too far gone to be helped. He WANTS to be a beta not join us jerks at the red pill. He has a long and miserable life as an incel ahead of him. Hard to even feel sorry for someone that stupid.

[–]psionicsickness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Ah so the feminists showed up to the thread then."

Hahaha. Wiping a tear from my eye. Classic.

[–]MagicGainbow 1 point2 points  (2 children)

In a way he got lucky, any girl that would think that she could wander off and get a train ran on her and he'd be cool/their be no consequences is not a girl any guy would want to date.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

She's a party favor. That's the girl who definitely gets an invite to the Super Bowl shindig.

[–]MagicGainbow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's the girl who definitely gets an invite to the Super Bowl shindig.

But repeatedly wonders why none of the guys will date her.

[–]TheBigLman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The second guy puts down the controller and says "it's all you man" lol. Those guys knew he wouldn't know what to do even if they invited him back.

[–]Buchloe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"It's all good. You get to make it up to me by taking it in your ass tonight"

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Betas gonna 'bate. /thread

[–]Its_All_Been_Done 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure I'm not leaving my bed today.

edit 4 - I'm familiar with the red pill and I won't be joining them, so you can save those suggestions.

Won't be "joining them"? What here in reality? What a fucking ignorant tool

oh also, lol

[–]Zachar1a 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was for me the saddest part:

I'm familiar with the red pill and I won't be joining them, so you can save those suggestions.

[–]2comment 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TIFU is like a shrine to betaness.

But he's likely right, she's not a whore. She probably gave it up for nothing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These posts bring out some great comments

[–]penworth[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is depressing. This would have been the best eye-opener ever! Imagine the time he could spend focusing on acquisition of assets, going to the gym, all value improving activities.

He's standing at the threshold, but doesn't pass through it. I think I just want to bookmark his account and check back on it after 6 months. Let's see if he stays beta.

Gods, I hope not.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He should have fucked the guys before she did. Then she could have been the one sitting and listening to his squeals.

[–]Dustin_Bromain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My reaction can best be summarized by this:

Quote from The Lord of the Rings that may apply here when OP shot down any and all red pill advice: "I gave you the chance... of aiding me... willingly... but you... have elected... the way of... PAIN!!!"

Beta Bitch gets vertically tossed to the top of Cuck Tower

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably fake, but funny as hell

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