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Red Pill ExampleBill Maher delivers gem of TRP wisdom. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by CrackityDiggity

TLDR: Bill Maher points out that we live in a culture where it's totally cool for a 60-year-old man like Bruce Jenner to have a sex change but it would have been totally uncool if he was fucking 20-year-olds.

Say what you will about Bill Maher's political opinions, you have to respect the man's ability to slay pussy even at 59 years old. Not only that, he remains single and has never married; a rare accomplishment for a man of his age, wealth and social status. Considering the fact that he's got an HBO show where he gets to say whatever he wants live and unedited every week, and considering the way he dominates every single discussion with every single guest, it doesn't take a genius to figure out the guy's getting laid like a race horse, and it seems pretty obvious he lives by a red pill philosophy, even if he's never heard of it, The man's the living embodiment of cocky/funny.

On October 30th's show, he delivered a nuclear missile of RP truth. I couldn't find the clip, so I'm going to transcribe it:

"We live in this age where you're allowed to do anything sexually, which is great if you're gay or transgender. I mean I'm about to be sixty years old. If I came out on my sixtieth birthday and said 'I have an announcement, ladies and gentlemen... I am a gay man.' [Thunderous applause.]

Do you know who Charles Blow is? It's a great character name. He's actually a very good and esteemed New York Times columnist, I believe he's bisexual. Anyway, he wrote a column about that--and you know, we live in this age of 'no labels,' 'it's what my body's telling me,' 'this my truth'--let me read the line he wrote. Listen to this:

'No one has the right to define or restrict the parameters of another person's attractions, love or intimacy. People must be allowed to be themselves however they define themselves, and they owe the world no explanation or excuse for it.'

That applies to everybody but us. It's the last taboo. You cannot be an older man with a younger women."

What a great point. In an age of tolerance and acceptance for sexual preferences, you're still not supposed to follow your natural urges to seek out a young, fertile, beautiful woman to have sex with. That's creepy, shameful, and weird. It's immature, predatory, and misogynistic. It's a pathetic attempt to relive your youth. It's taking advantage of young because you couldn't handle a woman your age, you're not man enough. On and on, blah blah, blah, we've all heard it before.

And I'm sure Bill Maher's heard his fair share of that shit from the bitter post-wall hags who have to hamster away the fact that he wants absolutely nothing to do with them.

So the next time someone tries to shame your natural preference for 20-year-old women, hit them with a taste of their own 'progressive' medicine, because tolerance goes both ways, bitches.


[–]iSeeYouWatchin[🍰] 193 points194 points  (73 children)

Bill Maher's been on fire lately. His New Rules from 10/13 was the first time I heard anyone address the fact that sexual frustration is a big reason for men committing these mass shootings.

Society and the media throws sex in everyone's faces from every angle and makes it out to look like everyone is having sex and if you're not, something is wrong with you. Society does nothing to help guys succeed relationship-wise. They're supposed to just get it, and when they start to act out in small ways, we medicate them and tell them they have a problem right before throwing them in the "forgettable" category of human beings.

So what do these ignored, and neglected human beings do? They try to get attention in the loudest and most destructive way possible. I feel like this has been so obvious but because gender politics in this country are so toxic, no one has the balls to address it. Except for Bill.

https://youtu.be/CRpgl01brpo?t=116

[–]Billee_Boyee 73 points74 points  (15 children)

Here's an interesting thought. There is an article an mensrights trending right now about how men are leaving teaching in droves due to low pay, no career path, and the fear that a teen age girl can destroy you with a lie.

There are no positive male role models in schools. Boys are systematically being medicated into quiescence while girls are being lauded by their all female teaching staff.

Raccoons don't want to fight humans, but if you corner one, they will fight, and they will do so with reckless, dare I say almost suicidal disregard for their own safety. It's life or death. And if you gave a raccoon a gun, he'd use it, just like Guardians of the Galaxy.

The cause of all the mass school shootings is not easy to figure out, but I don't ever hear about the lack of male role models advocating for boys in our schools as a possible culprit.

[–]plottke 85 points86 points  (12 children)

It makes me feel so sad and sick. Sometimes I feel like there is no hope. I feel like dying.

But then I have to find a way out. There must be a way out. And not fucking "MGTOW." I need pussy and women. The desire for love and sex is natural and a part of being a human being.

But our perceptions are out of whack. The solution is truly to stop letting people walk all over you. Look out for yourself. Always look out for yourself. Don't see those women as your "friends" that care about your troubles. If you have troubles of any sort and expect a woman to help you or care about you while simultaneously wanting to have sex with you, wake up.

Does that make women bad people? In the mind of a man, we often feel that people should be treated in a sort of "deep" way. There is more to people than this. We see a hurt or sad woman and want to help her and fuck her. Women, I think, don't really feel this.

It's really hard to accept that women/men both need there to be attraction of some sort in order to care. Men don't care about women unless they are attracted. Face it, this isn't just women! Don't be fucking stupid. But remember, women view attraction differently. It can be very hard for me to remember this.

Men and women are both more complex than just seeing surface attraction. They see lots of things that might make them feel attracted. But there are some differences. All men MUST accept this if they want to fulfill their sexual nature. There is a tendency to want to avoid it because we think we're giving up on our "true selves." But actually, becoming someone women generally find more attractive almost always coincides with becoming a better, stronger, smarter, more secure, more confident (not jerkish - confident), happy, positive, creative, etc individual. There is no losing the true self. Many of us sort of beta guys have this delusion that our current, "true" self is nicer. We say that those other guys are "assholes" and that we are "nice." This is delusional. We are weak pushovers who care about ourselves as much as anyone else. We are insecure and unconfident. We are whiny pushovers. And those "assholes" we are imagining are just confident guys who are running shit because we are too weak, insecure, and stupid to get over ourselves and assert ourselves in the world. We aren't treating ourselves with respect.

The truth about the world is that it isn't ultimately "friendly" to everyone. We have to make our own way. That doesn't mean we have to all become "dark triads" or whatever and fuck other people over. We have to look out for one another and be good people. But first we always must look out for ourselves.

That confident guy who gets laid, who you might resent, learn that this guy isn't a bad person or an asshole. Maybe he's just stupid. Maybe you're stupid for letting him assert his natural confidence while being weak and afraid to assert your own. Take fucking control, man. That doesn't mean you and him are enemies. Everyone else is doing this, guys. Assert yourself, dammit.

Keep boundaries and watch out for yourself. Nobody can tell you not to. But don't get crazy. Guys can indeed be massive assholes. When you start playing game with women, you see that there really can be some ruthless competition up there. It's that way for both genders, but it plays out differently. Everyone wants to fuck. Women improve themselves and men improve themselves.

Competition between men feels really bad, and it can feel bad for women too. We hurt seeing things slip away, or losing. We might fall into thinking it's all nihilism and pain. Sometimes it feels that way.

But the paradox is that falling into that doesn't get you what you need, which is confidence, more security, more optimism, more positivity, and more strength. You need to be in the world and you need to assert yourself. Not shrink into misery and negativity about it all because another guy was more attractive to her.

But don't slip into just chasing this thing like a dog. Trying to be like every other guy or "idea" of what you find attractive. Do this for yourself. It's a long, slow journey. Charge your groin with powerful energy. Don't become the negativity the other men want you to be. Assert your goodness over their ignorance. Always be overcoming the ignorance of others, which displays itself as attempts to bring you down.

Men do this. Jealous people do this. Recognize that all strong, secure good men have had to contend with this. It's what gives them that thick skin that seems like unfriendlyness. People must accept reality that those guys out there are also looking out for themselves. The challenge is learning how to assert and protect yourself and to be confident while also being positive, and being somebody people like. Not just being a douche alpha, but being a good alpha that makes the world a better place, and brings people security and strength.

That's the challenge. You can do it guys. I am working on it too. There are a lot of images out there in the media spreading false ideas that can really confuse and frustrate guys. Like you have to be one of these assholes or psychos to get women. No. You do need to understand how they think and to beat them at their own game. But you do not need to be one of them. You do not need to be someone who doesn't care about others and is playing some nihilistic game. That's just stupid bullshit.

It's important to just sort of remember what women are about. You can't let other people pull shit over on you. You have to stay confident, positive, protected and secure. And assert your needs. It's hard and takes a long time to crawl out from the old ways, but we can all do it when we really, really try. Half effort doesn't work. It takes serious energy. It's like getting a college degree. It takes that much time and effort and anything less won't work.

It is quite a bit meditative. One has to maintain a sort of equilibrium state and hold it, and continue to do so. There is thought and doubt that serves no purpose.

When women begin to find us attractive and want to fuck us, we start to wonder what is going on. It feels almost unnatural. We feel maybe guilty or something. Like we're one of the douches now. Or there may be deeper issues. We must recognize that and get over it.

Think of the whole process that changed you from being a weak, insecure, less attractive guy to being confident, secure, and assertive. To being sext. To going from someone who couldn't hit on women, never did kino, never got numbers, never got kiss closes at bars. Someone who never even thought about approaching women. Who learned to do it while drunk. Then more and more while sober. And learning how to game women over texts. And beginning to have lots of women in this sort of rotation around you.

Now this is where I am at. I have made real changes in my life. And it's on this continuum. It's very, very helpful to see the continuum because it has momentum. We have to give ourselves credit for our improvements because they help us see where we are going and prevent us from just going into despair. They let us keep going into territory and experiences we didn't even realize we were capable of having. Our sense of identity has to change from "I am weak and insecure" to "I am strong and secure." And everything that comes with that from the above post.

So when women start to find us really hot, and all of our work is starting to really pay off, we keep going. We don't get confused. This is our real identity. We are sexy guys. We are confident, strong, secure guys. We are becoming good alphas who are very much the cream of the crop in the eyes of women. And celebrate that, and then move on to the next challenges in our continuum.

For me that's growing into my new self and living with it. Being it. Breathing it. Speaking from it. Thinking from it. Letting go of all the old insecurities and stuff that was bringing me down. Growing into the new confidence.

Believe it or not, it is harder than one might think to accept that women really do find you attractive. It's hard to accept that you really are that person now. It might just feel like it "isn't you." You might feel like you aren't "being yourself." And that's going to be the issue to figure out.

I am being myself. But the reason is that my ideas about myself and the world were so wrong before that it would have literally been impossible for me to get here without changing them. I couldn't even conceptualize this situation coming about.

I have to grow into this and let it become me.

[–]alveoli1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thanks for taking the time to write this.

Really well said.

[–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Make a separate post. Really!

[–]icecow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Always be overcoming the ignorance of others, which displays itself as attempts to bring you down.

I take people's ignorance too personally. Ignorance is always served with a straight face. There's so much of it it feels like its a conspiracy to take me down by attrition. I need a mechanism to deal with this.

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am being myself. But the reason is that my ideas about myself and the world were so wrong before that it would have literally been impossible for me to get here without changing them. I couldn't even conceptualize this situation coming about.

Exactly. 20-year-old me was in the wrong head-space/mental-frame, and so self-improvement was damn -near impossible because any improvement would have been made within that warped frame.

Once you can conceptualize a healthy self-confident and self-actualuzed mental-frame, self-improvement gets 1000 times easier.

Then it just becomes a matter of willpower and determination.

[–]NecroticFury 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes sense. But considering the "nice guy" isnt actually nice, you'd think everything is such a perfect dichotomy.

Its really not though. Beta males sometimes are selfish. Sometimes are selfless. AWALT. Not all the time, but all of them, to some extent.

[–]i2amahandmodel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a way out. Its why I left my country. When society and the laws are against you realizing your full potential then you are facing a needless battle. I was living a jail sentence working in an office surrounded by women, denying my true nature. Now, I can do as I wish with little repercussions. I can make something and no woman can touch me legally.

It may be scary but if all of us moved to a country that appreciated dudes for what they contribute then we could create a better country. Move to Russia, where they have 5 to 1 women ratio. Become a family man and outbreed western cucks.

Imagine a city thats 50% talented western men and their local gfs. You would get a stable, fun, productive city that I'm sure could compete with the silicon valleys of the world. Plus some cities in Brazil and Medellin are famous for their beautiful mestizo women. My favorite are light skinned black Brazilian and half Irish, half Korean women. A million men moving to a foreign city would make the news. Empty out shitholes like Toronto.

The best part is that western women follow the money. They would move to these foreign cities but they couldnt even compete with the local women. You then can hire a nice MBA holding American/Canadian maid for cheap.

[–]BigRedChewingChum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is worth its own post. You're truly getting towards the meat of what we aspire to here. At least, what I do. Excellent stuff.

[–]ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'm a guy, and I'm majoring in education. There are guys out there going in knowing that male positive male role-models and educators are a vitally necessary part of our education system. It's one of the reasons I majored in it.

[–]BallisticTherapy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your service.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 38 points39 points  (7 children)

I'd argue that the inability to get sex/affection from women is the number one cause of male suicide. Countries like Japan and South Korea have high suicide rates mostly for this reason. It's not easy to get laid for the average male born there. Women have no concept of what it's like, and true to their solipsistic nature they can't even try to fathom what it's like.

Problem is, we live in a feminine primacy society, meaning that focusing on these issues with the intent to resolve them will never happen, not until there's a paradigm shift. It's much easier to simply shame male losers and shift the blame onto guns/media/porn instead.

[–]Thursday088 19 points20 points  (5 children)

And now we come full circle on the issue. I have seen time and time again guys who are "down and out" feeling like they have nothing left, righting their path by having a supportive group of men. A male centric supporting group in literally anything; woodworking, homebrewing, motorcycles, car club, etc. and these are the things that women themselves are fighting tooth and nail to disband.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Male communal groups (Cigar clubs and the like) largely existed to rectify this issue. They've fallen out of favour alongside men not developing hobbies for themselves. The net result is that modern men are truly lost and without direction. Male mentoring is frighteningly rare these days.

Ultimately, TRP is a replacement, albeit a lousy one, for that lack of male support structure.

[–]obama_lurves_nsa 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Sometimes you gotta just look your woman / gf / wife whatever in the eye, give her a god damned glare and tell her you are going out for the evening to hang with the bros.

She can eat shit if she's pissy about it or go find a hobby herself.

[–]Rasalom72 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It shouldn't be sometimes.... it should be a regular thing.... and you don't have to glare at her, or give her grief... just tell her that X day is guy time, and you're going to go do Y with the guys.

[–]StephMVPSplashBish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just do it word to shia lebauf... there should be no arguing, no look, you have your ballsack thats all there is to it

[–]The_Man_on_the_Wall 36 points37 points  (7 children)

Bill has always championed the notion that a LARGE part of the angst in the Islam world by men is largely influenced by their lack of access to pussy.

The women are all kept in what he refers to as "The bee keepers suit". The rich alpha's all get the wives since multiple wives are completely legal. So you have an entire section of young sexually frustrated men being sold a lie that they can have eternal access to 72 virgin snatches if they only commit some Jihad for Mohammad.

The shits so obvious you don't have to stay at a Holiday Inn Express to understand the genius in the simplicity of the hypothesis. An entire region full of men cant get a proper nut off.

Putin needs to send some of those ultra hot Eastern Block women to the Middle east. Lets fuck the frustration right out of these potential jihadists.

[–]NiceTryDisaster 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Holy shit dude. I never looked at Islam from that point of view. I just had a 'click' movement in my brain.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's nice to see a more realistic view of Islamic culture here than the tripe that is normally posted.

I've lived in an Islamic country for almost three years, and I can tell you there is a lot of technical virginity and situational homosexuality occurring on a daily basis.

However, I disagree with your last paragraph. These societies need to reform themselves and create a healthier environment for men and women to pursue sexual activity and relationships.

[–]redpilltaste 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The key player of the Muslim Brotherhood had his Epiphany regarding his hatred of the west while on a student exchange in the U.S at the big school dance. I read his account of it. Little angry man hamsters his lack of pussy action into rejecting the mating ritual as evil for which he had the responsibility to end.

edit: spelling

[–]TRPMaidenSlayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Putin needs to send some of those ultra hot Eastern Block women to the Middle east. Lets fuck the frustration right out of these potential jihadists.

I know you meant this as a joke, but this is literally the best idea to the entire political fiasco out there I've ever read.

Heavily armed Russian whorehouses would turn that entire culture upside down in a matter of weeks. Seriously. Putin could make it happen.

[–]cozgw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NOFX - 72 Hookers

"They don't hate us, they just hate their lives And desperate people learn to despise The suicidal's don't want to coup They don't want to blow up, they just want their 72

72 virgins can never stop a war But a 100, 000 hookers can beat the Marine Corps In stopping hatred, fighting will cease When everyone is getting blow jobs That's when we'll finally have world peace

How many million men have been killed in foreign wars? We need to reinstate the draft, enlist a million whores Start with the sororities and then all the spring breaks Ship the girls gone wild to Afghanistan They'll gladly blow the sheikhs

These holy wars aren't holy, it's not the military complex Terrorists are 16 year old kids who were promised Jihad sex

Maybe if they could see a woman's face They might not get onto that plane With a bomb in their suitcase

72 virgins can never stop a war But a 100, 000 hookers can beat the Marine Corps In stopping violence, fighting will cease When everyone is getting blow jobs That's when we'll finally have world peace"

[–]Sdom1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It also drove Islam's warfare. Can't find a wife? Get together with a bunch of other guys, go to some unbelieving town, kill all the men and take their women.

[–]Baal-Hadad 30 points31 points  (32 children)

Holy fuck man that was like an epiphany. I wonder if legalizing prostitution might help. Basically make it easier for a fucked up lonely kid to experience sex...

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (18 children)

Even if it was, feminists would still shame men for having sex with prostitututes. "You can't even afford a real woman" comes to mind.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 21 points22 points  (4 children)

"You can't even afford a real woman" comes to mind.

They just started talking about wedding loans being a thing. Not being able to afford a wedding suitable for today's woman and the likely divorce-rape following it is starting to be the norm

[–]Bascome 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The man doesn't pay for the wedding the woman and her family do. The man pays for the divorce.

[–]2comment 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It makes sense. A lot surrounding romance is invented by industry to suck out your wallet. If people are stupid enough to have a big expensive wedding, the industry will only be too happy to finance it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/02/how-an-ad-campaign-invented-the-diamond-engagement-ring/385376/

For instance, Christmas was always a holiday but the modern Christmas comes from Germanic rather than English tradition... and it was heralded in America in the mid-late 19th Century.... to sell more shit. Before that, Xmas in America was a lot more toned down by Puritan tradition and the like, if not expressly forbidden to celebrate. Wouldn't surprise me to learn Valentine's day was similiarly jumpstarted by some industry leveraging some tradition.

[–]GhostOfAladdin 1 points1 points [recovered]

no effing way. Wow.

Wait, can one default on the Wedding loan and restart?

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, then the people who gave you the loan come and take all your shit and charge you 1/2 your paycheck for the next 18 years. Talk about Karma!

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Can't afford a real woman? So she is a prostitute. If she is trading pussy for money, that's a prostitute. So all girls trade pussy for resources?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

So all girls trade pussy for resources?

It was proven with experiments (on different species) that females do that.

EDIT: I didn't realize you're one of endorsed guys. I guess I'm not in place to tell you about those experments.

[–]Gotmilkyy 19 points20 points  (3 children)

He's an endorsed member not God. You can tell him shit, lol.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was being a smart ass, that's exactly what they do.

[–]ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Even though modern dating is partly a form of prostitution anyway. Whether it's money, or your time, you are paying for sex in a way.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it was always like that. It was proven with experiments that female beings trade sex for goods that a male provides.

Sure there are AF pussy slayers who sacrifice nothing for women, but that's a different topic.

[–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Just don't make it public knowledge. Simple solution.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if I don't publicly announce I had sex with a prostitute, I still feel I did the wrong thing, simply because of being thought that through my childhood.

[–]redzorp 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The West needs to be more like traditional Thai culture in its relation to prostitution. In Thailand prostitution has always been an accepted part of the culture, with no shame for men who visit them (though recently changing with creeping Western influence). In Thai there is an expression "As pretty as a prostitute." Can you imagine any equivalent expression in the West?

Even the West had an era of respectability for prostitution, back when they were called courtesans and were held in high esteem by the nobility of the day.

Both legalizing prostitution and eliminating the cultural shame around it would go a long, long way to help young men in today's society. But I ain't holding out hope for any of that happening for decades. We still have a retarded War on Drugs, going strong despite all evidence to the contrary.

[–]BlackHeart89 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Honestly, if your choices to maintain your sanity is between shooting people or getting a prostitute, illegally, the choice should be simple as fuck.

Most of the frustrated guys who take shit that far were more than likely on thin ice with their sanity to begin with. Can't get laid? Work hard, make some money, then buy a bitch.

[–]SophisticatedIce 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How hard is it to get a good looking prostitute or at least a non-ugly one/how much does it cost generally?

[–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on your location. Around here, the ugly ones cost just as much or a bit less than the decent looking ones. Even if it costs a few hundred, work to make the money. Or find a cheap gold digger type chick.

But to specifically answer your question, about $75-300 for up to an hour.

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[–]sodainthewatercup6 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Game of Thrones had a mass stabbing at one. Strictly business, though.

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 2 points3 points  (1 child)

But that was a political move designed to hurt the brothel owner (Littlefinger), and put pressure on the Tyrells (because their son, married to the Queen Mother, was gay), and to mess with the Lannisters (Cersei, in particular.)

[–]redpilltaste 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go to Pattaya, Thailand. Whole place is a lovely brothel. As a rule men don't bother each other. Why would they bother? There is no angst.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Athens had state-subsidized prostitution. Sex was literally dirt cheap for Athenian men. Romans had brothels on every street corner, in addition to slaves and "freelance" prostitutes.

The ancients were fucking left, right and center. They considered masturbation to be fit only for slaves and fully understood that men have to penetrate, ie dominate, to feed their masculinity and vitality.

99% of us are slaves by antiquity's standards. They wouldn't call us men. Because even if we're not masturbating, we're still not dominating our women. They're dominating us and graciously giving us sex like a doggy treat while we as men we should be TAKING it.

A sad state of affairs.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

In germany it's looked down upon but legal. If you go pay for it, you better keep it a very good secret.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Want when I lived there. If was like going to the movies, except the star sucked your dick.

[–]LyricBaritone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Legalized, regulated prostitution is the right thing to have for a whole multitude of reasons, this included. It's just better for everybody.

[–]RP_is_mainstream 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's fucked how completely on the money he is and everyone in the audience is just laughing nervously like they don't understand or projects a kind of uncomfortable "Hey man, you can't talk about that, stick to what I'm comfortable with"

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Shame this post isn't on the top, you nailed it.

[–]Drenmar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like the reserved laughter, crowd isn't sure if he's joking or serious.

[–]Sherlock--Holmes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've said it for 30 years. THERE ARE NO FREE LUNCHES. What is the price we pay for all the seemingly free tingly feelings? Look around you at society..

[–]moose_war 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just remember: female sexuality is really important and to be happy a woman needs steady sex, but when it comes to males having sex, it's not a big deal, you can live a happy life without sex, don't base your entire life around sex, don't ever speak up about this again, etc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what you do for a living, but young dudes could really use your guidance and wisdom.

[–]Sdom1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His New Rules from 10/13 was the first time I heard anyone address the fact that sexual frustration is a big reason for men committing these mass shootings.

I'm going to continue to beat the drum on this - that's a symptom, not a cause. These kids are fucking nuts, which leads to them being ostracized, which leads to them not being able to get laid. But it doesn't even really inform their choice of target, except for in the case of Elliot Rogers. Even the newest kid didn't target women, he targeted the religious.

Failure to get laid isn't the reason for the violence. Mental illness, and sometimes SSRI side effects are the causes. And also, there are generally a lot of warning signs that are overlooked.

This whole "sexually frustrated men are committing mass shootings" is being incorporated into the leftist narrative for a reason, and it is not because they're on your side. Stop being patsies!

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 58 points59 points  (4 children)

Breitbart actually talked about Bill Maher in an article a couple months ago called The Rise of the Cultural Libertarians.

You know something has gone horribly wrong in our society when a strange new alliance forms between Breitbart, Bill Maher, and Chris Rock ...

[–]gmflag 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Well Chris Rock wont even perform on college campuses anymore. Even Seinfeld wont perform on college campuses. That should tell you something in and of itself when both cite colleges are too politically correct and too sensitive.

[–]Redasshole 8 points9 points  (2 children)

This is fucked up. College campus used to be the depravated and rock and roll part of society where men would rebel and dissert about how one could change society for the better.

Nowadays it's just a huge nursery.

[–]gmflag 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're being far too kind when regarding it as a nursery. Unless you were in STEM (and even it is pretty brainwashed), it is a huge progressive indoctrination facility. Even some of your star male athletes fell for that shit.

[–]ChadThundercockII 4 points5 points  (0 children)

because.. wait for it... it's full of women.

[–]NeoBushi 212 points213 points  (37 children)

Just look them in the eyes and say "I was born this way."

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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Better yet tell them try are welcome to do it too.

they're not just welcome to do it, it's applauded in modern western society. "ohhh she's a COUGAR!!" it even has a cool name. whereas if youre an old guy, it's a "lecherous old man"

but biills a bit of a self-absorbed himself, thinking it's the "last taboo".

you can marry a man if that's what you want to do, 'marriage equality' right? but you can't marry multiple wives - as just one example of things more taboo than him dating a 20 year old.

also like most things, it depends on who you are. if youre attractive or alpha, people like it. bradley cooper dated someone 20 years younger, clooney it must be 30 years. but nobody really talks shit on those as much as if warren buffet dated a younger woman

but then you think about the reality, if youre an older guy fucking a younger woman and youre rich, why the fuck would you care what anyone had to say about it?

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Men are usually called silver foxes and its totally okay for girls to want them but if the men act on it "oh this is disgraceful absolutely abhorjenldjcjrs". At most its a bit awkward but if the awkwardness of your dad hooking up with someone thats younger than him is more awkward than him having boobs and a vagina then you should probably reevaluate your priorities

[–]evileddy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

When I hear "Silver fox" I instantly think of this guy from mad men: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/05/cf/bb/05cfbb9828d21356bd1219a0b4b59c35.jpg

[–]boscoist 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I thought Anderson cooper was the silver fox?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly he's so silver he's almost the white wolf.

But if anyone's "the" silver fox it's definitely Sgt. Leroy Jethro Gibbs

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"a", not "the".

Also, he definitely won't be hooking up with 20-year-old women any time soon.

[–]LyricBaritone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually, I think the biggest deterrent to legal Polygamy is insurance law. There's no way companies are going to insure their employee AND his 6 wives.

[–]colehoun333 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Holy shit. Why didn't I think of that?

[–]bertmaklinFBI 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or don't explain yourself.

I have a family member who dates someone 30+ years younger than him. He doesn't explain himself and subsequently does not get asked any questions.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats perfect.

Do it all sad like you are tormented by the way society has judged you for your sexual orientation.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 69 points70 points  (2 children)

Beta men can't get them and older women hate how younger gets more attention. It's about as simple as that. Let them be bitter.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Right? It's the one thing men get, and then only some percentage of them. They can't even let them have that.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They can bitch all they want, doesn't make young girls less interested in this gray haired mid 40s jerk. Man bitches around here get very pissed at me when I don't act immediately on her advances. I see it, but I'm cautious about who gets to cover my dick in bodily fluids.

[–]EeeeeeevilMan 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Sooo true.

You should see the way that a certain relationships subreddit on this site (that I can't name because of automoderator overzealousness) goes bonkers whenever some unsuspecting 20-year-old girl wanders in there asking for relationship advice about her older boyfriend. They all dogpile each other trying to school her about how she's being taken advantage of.

[–]wanderer779 20 points21 points  (1 child)

one story I've seen is that a guy who was not born into money will have trouble getting girls when he's younger. Then he takes a decade or two to establish himself and then he can finally start a family on a secure foundation. Of course he goes after a young girl and a bunch of ugly old hags sit around calling him names. Apparently they are actually dumb enough to think he waited all that time to get interested in pussy. No, dumbasses, the pussy waited till he got rich before it got interested in him.

Let's think about the possible scenarios here. #1, this guy finds a girl who will support him. Never happen. #2, he convinces a girl to start a family with no money. In case you haven't noticed, kids with wealthier parents do better. #3, he does what these hags want and marries an dried up infertile woman so she can spend the money. #4, he does what he wants, gets a young woman in the prime of her child-bearing years, has healthy kids, and is able to provide for them and spend time with them as well. Even though his plan is actually the best one for his family, women will always criticize him for it.

This is why you don't listen to women about what you are supposed to be doing with your life. They don't have your interests in mind.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even though his plan is actually the best one for his family, women will always criticize him for it.

yeah its best for him and his family, but worst for the post-wall ex-CC riders. fuck em

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Obviously you can't be an older Man with a younger Woman, because if Older Men got with Younger Women, that would mean ALL the Males are trying to get with the younger Women.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

It's almost like women have an expiration date or something.

[–]sodainthewatercup6 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's more like a "sell by" date. They are still a consumable product, but just taste better before.

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[–]ModRedSovereign[M] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Don't post image macros here.

[–]nrjk 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Yeah, tolerance goes both ways...until the age of consent is raised to 32 and literally every man becomes a "somekindofphile".

The only way to deal with a woman over 30 is to get a 20 year old instead.

[–]sodainthewatercup6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women get too horny from 18-26 for that shit. That law will never adjust that high.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 42 points43 points  (0 children)

In the Media Narrative, yes, absolutely. But In Real Life, while it's true that there's some hostility and attempted 'shaming' from post-Wall bitter bitches who rode the Carousel too long b/c they thought they'd be young and hot forever, but have relegated to life as Cat Colonists, why should a man care? An older guy (or a younger one) who bangs young attractive women is following his biological imperative as a man.

I date/mate/plate women 22-28 years younger than I am. My male friends are, of course, supportive and think it's cool, even the ones who are married, and have to keep quiet around their wives. The married women who are friends of mine are mostly down. They get it. They locked down their men when they were young and hot. Sure, they'd be happy if I wifed up some post-Wall hag with a couple of kids but they all know that ain't happenin', EVER. The ones that aren't are afraid that their husbands will 'get ideas'.

That leaves the Cat Colonists. The ones that post on social media, and then their friends lie to them and tell them that they're 'beautiful'. Um, no. Their wombs are basically dry, dusty raisins, and they're pissed that life isn't meeting their expectations. Tough shit. They had their chances early when the they were young and hot, and if they wasted their good years on fucking Chads and Outlaw Bikers. Why do I give a shit about anything they have to say? Right, I don't, and you shouldn't either.

Live your lives for YOU. If you work on yourself, work on game, and work on becoming a man, and being exceptional at something (or a couple of somethings) the pussy will flow. If someone doesn't like how you're living your life, they can go eat a bag of dicks.

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (52 children)

Bill Maher is Red Pill. His political views are not mine but we see eye to eye on the only value women bring to the table: sex.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 11 points12 points  (13 children)

Some of Maher's opinions, such as this one, plus the one about Islam, deserve better than having Maher as their primary proponent. He's such a smug douche. But on this, he's dead right.

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (10 children)

I don't agree with a lot of his shit, but where he's with us is:

He hates feminism.

He's realistic about Islamic terrorists.

[–]Tipsy_Gnostalgic 44 points45 points  (7 children)

He's realistic about Islamic terrorists.

Did you ever see the episode with Sam Harris and Ben Affleck? Maher and Harris were citing surveys and statistics while all Affleck did was shout "racist" and "gross". It was sad, yet funny.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (1 child)

YUP!! 89% of Egyptian Muslims, a moderate country mind you, believe you should die if you leave Islam.

But Bill...that's mean. Ok? You have to walk on eggshells and ignore the truth, Bill.

[–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think about it, how many people leave Islam every year ? Then, how many atheists who were muslims once died because of their beliefs ?

Think about that for a moment, then see through the bullshit the media spews at us. Islamic terrorists became a believable term after 9/11. Yet, if you look closer at the power struggle in the world and where to money is coming from, you'll see that ISIS, Al Qaida and Taliban are groups financed by either the UK, the USA or Russia. There are no muslims fighting for their religion. Most muslims are brainwashed by the media to consume and shut the fuck up about all the ways they are oppressed by their governments. Do you realize that ALL governors of Islamic states are backed by the USA and its allies to secure their power in that area ? The kings of the UAE or Saudi Arabia wouldn't last a month with the help of the USA. All north Africa is governed by military generals, like some sort of Japanese Shoguns.

[–]stickfiguresk 12 points13 points  (0 children)

that's racist

K

Affleck is vain and ignorant, as any A-list actor should be. Of all people, I'm surprised Sam Harris talked to him on that level. I mean, I know that's what Sam does for a living, and he's amazing at it, but I know he's more talented than what he showed that night. Hitchens definetly wouldn't of let Affleck get away with that... but he also probably wouldn't of tolerated Maher again either.

[–]LuvBeer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol at Affleck squealing "it's gross, it's racist!" What a bitch. No wonder he has Hillary on speed dial.

[–]_eskimo_brothers_ 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Or when that one woman (maybe a week after the Affleck show) went off her rails and Maher had to treat her literally like a 5 year old. She was fuming mad on his comments. She would interject with random outbursts once they had moved on. I'm sure that overtime was interesting, but once she was quiet for the rest of the episode you could still see her anger in her body language. I haven't seen all that much Maher but it was comical but I also felt like she was one of few I've seen on that show to get THAT upset.

I wish Hitchens was still alive, he had tact to disarm blowhards on both sides of debates. If he had been on Maher for that whole witch hunt the media threw at Bill regarding Islam perhaps more would have been understood on the position Maher and many others have. I'm not really a Maher fan, but I do agree with him on occasion, and it is surprising. Haven't watched his show in months though, you have to eventually realize that all talk shows while they may give us something to talk about don't really change things, thus we can be more productive doing other things.

[–]Tipsy_Gnostalgic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea, Hitch was great at diffusing a tense situation, that man knew how to charm people like no other.

[–]dazedandconfusedrp 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Does he? I remember him acting so shocked that women are earning 30% less than men. Is he that dumb or does he just act like it?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

-_- fucking really?

Here watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x64cy3Bcr98

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

thats funny, that is the MO of most endorsed in here.

smug is only a character flaw if the other guy is insecure

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn right. Saying someone is smug is seeing yourself as less than they are.

Creepy can be confident but unattractive. Creepy can also be unconfident and unattractive.

[–]prodigy2throw -3 points-2 points  (11 children)

Can't stand his show and how the audience claps retardedly after every sentence. But he's got some red pill thoughts behind the liberal shit.

[–]MuleJuiceMcQuaid 18 points19 points  (8 children)

Bill is so old that his oldschool liberal ideas aren't progressive enough to the new generation. If you can't even stand Mahr, you must punch your TV watching MSNBC.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (5 children)

Old School Liberalism isn't shit.

(I hope this doesn't destroy my cred but here goes)

I can get behind the idea that the proper way to judge a man is through the content of his character and not the color of his skin.

I believe that market power shouldn't be given carte blanche authority to do whatever it wants.

I believe that fraud is actually a thing and not "unwanted capital flows subject to market filtering"

Ayn Rand was batshit looney hypergamy gone wild (google it) and died impoverished existing off (luckily for her) a social safety net designed to give the elderly a minimum of independence.

I believe in a minimum standard of living is necessary to have a civilized society.

I believe as Oliver Wendell Holmes said "Taxes are the cost of a free society".

I believe Keynesian Economics has merit (and not mutually exclusive/totally in opposition with Hayek)

Gov regulation is required to keep air and water clean, products safe, and maintain public safety overall.

I believe that a pure unrestrained capitalistic economic system is not inherently stable and requires some socialistic support (not a bloated welfare state) to keep demand consistent and growth steadily increasing.

People have used the word "Liberal" has a derogatory term since the 60s, but as the meme goes - they don't think the word means what they think it means.

Classic liberalism is exactly what Libertarians laud:

  • Freedom of Speech
  • Freedom of Religion
  • Laissez-Faire Capitalism
  • Freedom of Assembly
  • Equal Protection Under the Law
  • Right to Bare Arms
  • Right to a Representative Government
  • Rights to Own Property

To name a few.

Remember, once upon a time John F. Kennedy famously said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

This is not a sentiment echoed by contemporary progressives. The democratic party has shifted way left and IMO, it was aided by large corporations who discovered that having the government print/borrow money and hand it out in welfare was a means to maintain aggregate demand while they off-shored jobs and suppressed wages.

Think of it like this. A thief takes $5 from the till at his job. The $5 is considered to be an acceptable loss because of inherent variance involved in human error so nothing is said or done. The thief becomes emboldened. Starts taking $5 from the till on a regular basis. Again, this is just error to "management". Soon $5 becomes $20 and then $50. As long as the thief continues to get away with stealing from the till, he/she will continue doing so in increasing amounts until either being fired or the business goes bankrupt. That's just human nature with thieves.

This is what the welfare state is to billionaire donors in the US. Its a way they can stamp down on labor costs without having to supply the market they do business in with liquidity in the form of wages - and they'll keep doing it until they get fired or the wholes system collapses on their heads.

Progressives are the biggest useful idiots going. Instead of seeing poverty and crime as a result of wage suppression, fatherlessness and the unsustainable growth of the welfare state (policies pushed forward by their own party), they scapegoat all males, especially white heterosexual ones, and make the claim that institutional racism, fed by the sub-conscious stupidity of undeserving white males, causes disparate impact.

What do you think is the end game here?

The corporate elite class has already socialized risk in bank and market trading. What's next?

Answer: The socialization of the workforce.

With the only thing left private being corporate profits.

Welcome to 21st century corporate feudalism.

Want healthcare and retirement savings? Sign up for college and strap on this $100K mortgage on your life so you can be a drone. Your productivity is not enough to fuel wealth, a cut of your earnings for 30 years plus interest is also required.

Meritocracy? Pfft.... That's RACISM. We have a system that values DIVERSITY above all else. Politics over performance is the new rule of the day. Shut up and do as you are told or we'll have our mesmerized dipshit disaffected NEET operatives solicit your termination through social media. Love that plausible deniability.

Back in the day, liberalism and even progressivism was about getting the average worker his fair share in society - but today the average worker is the ENEMY to progressives. We are privileged unworthy subhumans who need to apologize for our existence.

I'm a classic liberal, and today libertarianism best aligns with my interests. Unfortunately, with the right however, they want to eliminate the safety nets and bring back the policies of the Gilded Age. Understanding the reality of American politics is knowing that Billionaires control government and the parties are just two sides to the same coin. They are both neo-liberal in their own way, with the same goals - gaming the system to their collective advantage and paying people less for work.

As a man living this reality, you have two choices - become elite in the corporate track (no small undertaking) or become self employed (be prepared to fail early and often before finding success) - and intersectional feminists are in opposition to you achieving either of these goals without paying steep tithes to their coffers in either academia or "non-profit" orgs.

All this bullshit propaganda about parties and political movements is all obfuscation. Money talks and bullshit walks. Its the fucking Bilderbergs and the Counsel on Foreign Relations that run shit, not any government. The gov is just the accounting system the elite use to divy out the public contribution - and they do so to their personal interests via their paid operatives (politicians).

We're all tasked with finding our niche and making shit happen to the best of our abilities in this mess. That's the deal.

Old School Liberals like Bill Maher know what progressivism used to look like. So far only Bill has been allowed to get away with not being 100% lock step with media narratives and talking shit about the hypocrisy that takes on personal implications to his own lifestyle. Its impressive really. I keep on waiting for some horrific accusation to land on him, resulting in his voice being successfully whisked away from public consumption. As usual, the popcorn is at the ready.

[–]skeletonized 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You already know I'm a fan of your posts. I'm 27, and I feel that this is what I left high school A.P. US History understanding. I remember Howard Zinn's, "A Peoples' History of the United States" laid it out the same way. Must Re-read.

[–]icecow 0 points1 point  (1 child)

As much as I 'like' what John Stewart, Bill Maher, others do to bring issues to light to the general public these shows seem to encapsulate real issues in to a bubble that are then 100% guaranteed to fail the public and succeed for the shadowy figures. Every time the public jerks off to the latest information bomb on a new issue to them legislation passes with little fanfare (disfavoring the public) for the issue they all were jerking off to a year before which they are tired of, old news. I can't determine if this jerk-off cycle is somehow an improvement, or effectively closing off issues creating a mental soup that leaves no recourse. I'm not saying I have an answer.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They started out as 1990s voices for edgey GenX "free thinkers" who enjoyed satirists telling the establishment to get fucked. Now fast forward 20 years and they represent the establishment.

At least in Stewart's case, he went right down into the rabbit hole with the post modern critical theory spouting loons, embracing "white privilege" and shit like that. He went from denouncing racism in all forms in his early days to espousing certain forms of it as politically correct. He became the authoritarian moral shamer and stopped being the edgy, cool counter-culture wise ass.

A new group of anti-establishment rabble rousers emerged and they were shitposting HIM as the stodgy corrupt hypocrite. My guess is a guy as smart as Jon Stewart (and his buddy Steven Colbert) saw that shit happening and GTFO before it became really painfully obvious they weren't freedom loving satirists anymore (Ahem the Anita Sarkeesian episode) - they were just carrying water for the MULTI-BILLION dollar authoritarian propaganda machine. Its kind of hard to wheel around the schtick they were spinning without looking like a couple of smacked asses in that context.

As far as Bill Maher is concerned... It seems he's really making a go at sticking to his original principles: The Religious Right is full of whackos, The Tea Party is full of angry old racists yelling get off my lawn, Neocons are corrupt psychopaths (Haliburton, the Iraq War & Bailouts), rich fuckers like the the Koch Brothers don't think they should pay any taxes, get sweetheart privatization deals (Wisconsin) and be able to buy whatever candidate they choose (money is speech), a progressive tax schedule is good, you should shelter the homeless and keep families from starving, providing access to affordable health care to every family, and in general speaking saying socialism isn't a dirty word in every instance and is beneficial if not necessary to society when used smartly.

I know many guys that subscribe to this sub are likely at the least to disagree with some of those points, but that was what liberal progressivism looked like 1998-2008 and to a classic liberal that list doesn't look too far fetched.

Now progressivism looks nothing like that anymore. Now masculinity is a disease, white people are destroying the world, don't you dare hate on those poor people in the middle east they're all victims regardless of their penchant for theocracy, mysogyny and violence, meritocracies are bad, enforced diversity magically breeds success, your race gender and sexual preference determines your worth - not you efforts or abilities - and the rest of progressive stack lunacy... I could go on and on...

No where are progressives talking about economic policy, jobs, public safety, keeping safety nets viable - nothing at all talking about helping hard working families get ahead - the answer simply is welfare. 1 in 4 Americans & 40% of all children under 5 received welfare in 2011. How can any reasonable person think that is an acceptable thing? It most certainly isn't sustainable.

At least Slick Willie tried to institute programs designed to get people off welfare, nowadays everyone is oppressed and deserves help because they are victims. In all this swirling maelstrom of bullshit, one thing can be deduced - if you are a person with a job - especially if you are white - you're a piece of shit. Full fucking stop.

Who does this party represent?

Lazy fat feminist loser snowflakes who's only slightly remarkable skill is that they are obsessive compulsive pernicious little whiners who would sneer at a homeless man while whistling dixie behind their keyboards.

This isn't the party or the ideology that even remotely represents ideals that would appeal to a classic liberal, so I'm beginning to wonder if and when Bill Maher is going to break ranks in earnest and start rebuking post modernism and its various absurdities. I consider him to be the last sane self-described liberal out there. Every other one has spinelessly capitulated to cultural marxism.

[–]KonigInPreussen 8 points9 points  (0 children)

watching MSNBC.

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

welcome to what an old school liberal is. People often mistake them for progressives.

I mean, I'm sure conservatives just 'love' being labeled as a militia member with a mullet

[–]ILoveSunflowers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, saw Maher live, and the applause thing is his doing, he gets bitchy if you don't clap every time he pauses thinking he should get a round. Big fan of his, just don't want to see him live again.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Bill Maher is right on this one. If you don't believe it, just go to the relationships subreddit sometime. The people there love to act all progressive and tolerant of other lifestyles. But as soon as somebody mentions an older man dating a younger woman, they break out the torches and pitchforks.

I even commented once (using a different account) that people in that subreddit don't care if an older woman is dating a younger man, but everybody gets outraged at an older man dating a younger woman. My comment got downvoted into oblivion, but nobody could come up with a proper rebuttal to it.

[–]buckumadridista 6 points7 points  (0 children)

downvotes are the highest compliment on reddit. why would i want to be upvoted by reddit's demographic

[–]satanicpriest13 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Bill Maher is alpha as fuck. He's got his life sorted, he stands his ground, and doesn't take shit from idiots. I agreed with most of his opinions until Trump came along and the two parted blows. I still think this is a bit of alpha banter as both men are powerful and know what the other is capable of. We have to keep in mind that Bill cannot say anything he wants on air. He could still get fired or sued or whatever, unlike Trump who's built himself such that doesn't need to give a shit.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

two alphas didn't get along?

you don't say

[–]PedroIsWatching 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'd love to hear Bill and Arnold Schwarzenegger have a friendly battle of wits.

[–]satanicpriest13 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Arnold could engage the greatest minds of our century in a verbal joust and win by purely using his one liners.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Rollo Tomassi made a great point on this subject.Basically, modern female groupthink is dedicated to advancing women's sexual power at the expense of males at all costs. We see this in many ways today; a fat woman is entitled to marriage with an attractive man, but an unattractive man is a creep unworthy of any attention.

A married man, or a husband to a single mom who willingly raises someone else's kids, is socially considered a responsible man who "manned up" . A single guy who declares himself unwilling to marry is essentially Will Smith in "Enemy of The State", minus the hammy John Voight speeches. It's so bad now I was called a Misogynist by a blue pill group of guys because I went dutch going out with a girl.Women in the past were shamed for not behaving according to socially defined standards.

Today, males are shamed for not being providers. This extends to older men who are ,insofar as society is concerned, shirking their duty to wife up retread women their age and older.

[–]Philhelm 14 points15 points  (7 children)

While I have nothing but disdain for leftist hypocrisy, there is a valid reason as to why the double standard exists. It is inherently understood, even if fiercely denied, that women simply lack agency, doubly so when a significantly older man is "preying" upon her. Frankly, a twenty-year-old woman probably wouldn't even qualify as the most responsible teenager in the house, which is where daddy and his shotgun come into the picture.

This is also why men who have sex with underage girls are treated much more harshly than women who commit the same crime. While the libertarian side of me would demand that the laws be applied equally, the patriarchal side of me realizes that this double standard is something that a responsible patriarchy would have to concede. Ironically, the best defense a woman could hope for would be under a bona fide patriarchy.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 24 points25 points  (3 children)

the patriarchal side of me realizes that this double standard is something that a responsible patriarchy would have to concede. Ironically, the best defense a woman could hope for would be under a bona fide patriarchy.

What you have said is true.

But women forfeited our guidance and protection the moment they campaigned and whined to win themselves a decade-long fuckathon in their 20s. We are under no obligation to enforce this double standard, especially when we (men) must bear all the effort while women simply sit back and enjoy all the benefits. That nonsense has gone on long enough.

If women want us to begin enforcing the benefits of that double-standard for them, they need to assume the proper position and submit to us once again.

[–]Philhelm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree completely. To rephrase, the social enforcement of the double standard would be conditional on women submitting to patriarchy.

[–]CuriouslyRed 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This is a good point, but while it is definitely more scrutinized when the woman is in her early 20's I still find this issue to be taboo say when a woman is 30 and the man is say 50. At what point can one say without hesitation that a person is completely responsible and accountable for themselves?

[–]Philhelm 9 points10 points  (0 children)

For a woman, the sky's the limit. It's just a societal shit test anyway. If a 40+ year-old man is fucking 20-year-olds, then he's already doing something right. Just shrug your shoulders and move on.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I still find this issue to be taboo say when a woman is 30 and the man is say 50.

Wait.

You consider a 50 year old man with a 30 year old woman to be "preying" upon her??? Or is it that you perceive that society feels that way?

[–]demilitarizdsm 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Don't overlook the satisfying and filtering aspects of this remaining taboo. You're doing what is right by evolution and putting a 'fuck you' in every dry hags face and they can't stop you. If they bitch about it, then you know who to keep at arms length.

As an expat who now lives in a culture where age gaps are acceptable... its fine but I don't think the difference make for a worthy battle to pile on the already high heap of shit in the culture war. One of the perceived problems is that a woman in the west rejects an older guy and throws at him the age gap hate talk she learned from dry hags but she was going to reject you anyway. So we incorrectly assume the culture is limiting our access to younger beauties when in fact you just weren't the RIGHT older guy for her.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the perceived problems is that a woman in the west rejects an older guy and throws at him the age gap hate talk she learned from dry hags but she was going to reject you anyway. So we incorrectly assume the culture is limiting our access to younger beauties when in fact you just weren't the RIGHT older guy for her.

good observation man, thanks for that

[–]Hilarious_Haplogroup 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A man with wealth, power, and fame attracts young, hot chicks. If he has confidence as well, he can easily disregard the criticisms of bitter, pathetic women while he gets what he wants from women that are 20 or 30+ years his junior.

[–]boomerbux 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm mid fifties and date women 15 to 30 years younger than I am, but usually outside of NA (where I don't even bother to date at all anymore). When I was younger and in a dry spell I briefly thought about taking a trip to Latin America, but didn't. Probably the biggest mistake of my life. Any young guys out there who are having trouble meeting women who don't take the trouble to travel outside the USA (and learn a second language, for god's sake) are making the same colossal error I did. I'm making up for lost time, but damn...if I only knew then...

[–]T0000009 6 points7 points  (0 children)

because tolerance goes both ways, bitches.

Nope, ask any SJW, feminazi, liberal, or progressive and they will viciously explain to you that "tolerance" is a really massive ONE WAY ONLY street that you will follow to reach their predetermined version of utopia that you have no right to take issue with.

[–]I3lizzard 14 points15 points  (1 child)

It's not even just preference for younger women. A preference for pretty women will have you labeled shallow. Same kinds of things. You can't handle a "real woman" as in a cold, overweight public policy major that is in serious contention for least fun human being on earth to hang out with. "you just want a dumb girl." well a girl that hasn't had her brain poisoned all of this radical feminist type ideology. sure.

[–]rpersona 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I love how they turn so quickly to breaking each other down. Because apparently an attractive girl "isn't a real woman" or shes automatically the stereotypical dumb blonde. But Feminism is a "sisterhood" right?

[–]CuriouslyRed 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Just another example of our political and social climate these days where progressive movements, like feminism, is all about equality when it applies and is convenient for you.

Also for all those ripping on Bill Maher because you may disagree with his political views, tell me another show were there are prominent members from both parties debating and having serious relevant conversations on LIVE tv? Sure he may tend to have more liberals than conservatives on, but there is always at least 1 conservative on the show and he has some of the most senior political figures of all parties regularly on. There simply isn't programming like that today.

[–]EnragedParrot 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Can't listen to his tripe talk, any more than I can listen to that fat "conservative" on talk radio (see, even blocked his name outta my head).

If the medium overwhelms the message, communication doesn't happen.

[–]CuriouslyRed 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That is definitely a valid point and there are definitely many times where that is the case on his show. I just disagree that the medium overwhelms the message the majority of the time, especially when compared to conservative talk radio.

It's not perfect but it's definitely one of the best places that I have found to find live unedited content of very respectable people talking about relevant issues from different perspectives.

[–]EnragedParrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, his delivery overshadows the message. Just like with old Rush. Being bombastic leads me to not respect someone. Part of the problem with media today - they all act like they have to crank it to "11".

Hell, I'm fairly conservative and can't stand most conservative talkers, I like listening to NPR because they usually keep tone in control (while I still disagree with a bit of their perspectives).

[–]rpersona 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Whats really funny is that a lot of women find relationships with older men more ideal than with men around their age. Mostly due to stability, but also because they think the older guy values them more due to her being young and fertile, which gives her ridiculous amounts of validation.

[–]r1chten 4 points5 points  (0 children)

[–]scarletspider3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Your allowed to do anything that the feminine imperative approves of. Anyone that goes against the feminine imperative is a creepy weirdo.

[–]Venicedreaming 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Typically society shames behaviors that are detrimental to the majority. Slut shaming has its root in curbing single moms, preventing STD, ect. Rock the cradle shaming has its root in distributing the best female mates to a healthier and more fertile males. With that said, many tradition values have changed, so do whatever the fuck you want and block the noise

[–]BlackHeart89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So the next time someone tries to shame your natural preference for 20-year-old women, hit them with a taste of their own 'progressive' medicine, because tolerance goes both ways, bitches.

This requires way too much effort to actually get your point across and it will still be futile in the end. Just say, "have fun with those saggy tits and massive muffin tops, bruh". Then chuckle.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's only taboo if you listen to women older than their twenties. THEY are the ones who get mad. Ignore them. Sure, some women in their twenties won't be interested in you; maybe most of them, but statistically, some will, so if they are your thing, date away, and ignore the haters.

[–]T0000009 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're only mad because they wasted their shot on thugs who are in prison now and not chairman of the board.

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know somebody dating a woman who's a year or two older than his daughter.

She was Little Red Riding Hood for Halloween. He was the Big Bad Wolf.

He's got balls and a sense of humor, with no fucks given.

[–]BillC618 5 points6 points  (4 children)

This attitude is much less prevalent outside the USA.

[–]reupiii 6 points6 points [recovered]

I live in Western Europe and this attitude is very present. Every older man fucking younger girls (like 10 years difference or more) are considered creepy perverts by a large majority. Bill is right, it's similar to a taboo... The resentment against these men from women of all ages is very strong.

[–]PaulAJK 0 points1 point  (1 child)

(like 10 years difference or more) are considered creepy perverts by a large majority.

What? I don't see that attitude very often.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the few good things about society here in North Africa is that such an age difference is not considered such a huge deal.

However, there are a lot of bad things about society here.

[–]RedDeadlift 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Awesome post. I fucking love Bill Maher. The guy is so level headed as he delivers reality checks to those who need it most.

[–]DrYoda 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not really, Hollywood is full of older dudes banging younger girls

[–]joekrozak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Come on! It's the current year.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I told my 19 year old cousin to ease off the drugs and focus on school and college girls right now. Also, he wouldn't believe how many young 20 somethings have no problem going for 30 somethings or older.

[–]Moneyley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He just interviewed a few days ago by CBS. At around 2:20 he spills more redpill truth's about being a bachelor. I was going to edit it and cut it to where he talks about being a bachelor but the entire interview is worth watching. https://youtu.be/CfmgzlV6iGA

He talks about how he easily had $1 mil to give to the Obama campaign, how he doesn't go crazy buying shit like yachts and instead he makes investments. He co-owns the Mets, who were just in the world series. He goes into his work ethic, which, I had no idea that he rehearsed his jokes on Thursdays before a test crowd.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bill Maher likes to stick his dick in the craziest of crazy and im totally tolerant of his choice to do so.

[–]BuckStricklandx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does anybody in Hollywood or any other circles really give a shit about Bill Maher's sex habits though? I feel like if you are on the left you don't get criticized for anything at all.

[–]DatAEK971 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's an old Larry King interview in which Bill Maher literally says there is a war on being a man and masculinity going on in America. Hes spot on

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It used to be completely normal and expected for dudes to take younger wives.

Successful thirty something dude in colonial era America was expected to take a wife in her teens. Thats just the way it was.

[–]IsupportLGBT_nohomo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you're 60 years old and you need a role model on TV to build you up so you can break a mild taboo, you're probably a little bitch.

[–]aazav -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bill Maher points out that we live in a culture where it's totally cool for a 60-year-old man like Bruce Jenner to have a sex change

No matter what age you are, it's simply creepy as fucking fuck.

[–]evileddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think about how uncool it would be for say.... Emma Watson to come out as "I've always been a boy" and got a sex change.

Not so cool now is it?

Anytime someone tries to shame me I just smile and say "It just keeps happening.. must be natural" hahahaha

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, but why are you worried? The only guys who get 20 year olds in their 40s are guys who could give less of a fuck about public opinion. If you find yourself preoccupied with what society thinks is taboo, you won't be fucking 20 year olds in your 40s anyway.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm dating a girl 11 years my junior, all the older women at work absolutely hate me now, I still don't give a shit though

[–]ghebert001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only reason society considers it creepy or shameful, etc. is because older and uglier women don't want to be cast asside for women who show more signs of fertility. Same reason why most people call men losers if they seek sex from an escort...they don't want men to have easy access to sex, they want men to jump through hoops and earn it from the gatekeepers.

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[–]rpersona 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It takes a special kind of idiot to read the OP, or other comments, and think we're trying to compare degrees of scrutiny. The point is that Progressives will shout from the hilltops all day about how you should just "get over it" if somebody is Gay or has a sex change. But get freaked out when an older man dates a woman. Both should be accepted entirely by their group. But of course they have double standards due to shitty metrics.

[–]CuriouslyRed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not that dating younger women causes more scrutiny or even anywhere near the same amount of scrutiny. It's the fact sexual freedom should apply to everyone except for the perceived privileged groups. Because fuck it they have everything already because they are the "patriarchy". If that isn't hypocrisy I don't know what is.

[–]1ThumpNuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What am I missing? This seems like one of the dumbest posts ever.

Not only is it OK, it's normal for an older man to be with a younger woman, or women. At least from what I see every day. I can name a hundred older men with younger women right off the top of my head.

That's a good thing. Unless I'm missing all the attacks somewhere. I don't see it.

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